Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 10:31:32PM +, Pigeon wrote: > How does your trailer cope with the bike leaning over on corners? Hitch is on a swivel joint and clamps to the bicycle. Trailer doesn't torque. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- D

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-19 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 23:31, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 07:52:21PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > [1] Bicycle with cargo trailers can move anything. I've moved a sofa > > and a fridge with them myself, though had to rent larger trailers. > > I've moved a fridge by strapping it on the

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-19 Thread Joris Huizer
> > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these > levels that all of

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-19 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 07:52:21PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > [1] Bicycle with cargo trailers can move anything. I've moved a sofa > and a fridge with them myself, though had to rent larger trailers. I've moved a fridge by strapping it on the carrier. This made the bike possible to ride, but im

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-18 Thread John Griffiths
> >Actually, I know several journos who use Debian. It makes testing and >evaluating SW packages trivial. > Further to that, in the non-tech press I know many political journo's with a love affair with abiword under windows. mostly because it doesn't play silly games with them. -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 06:32:23PM -0600, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 15:30, Sam Varghese wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 09:53:02AM -0800, Osamu Aoki spake thus: > [snip] > > I work as a journalist for

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-18 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 11:40, Cam Ellison wrote: > * Lloyd Zusman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > "Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > [ ... ] > > > > > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > > > why you are so proficient with compiling and

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-18 Thread ajlewis2
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Deb

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Pigeon
I've been mucking about with computers for over 20 years, starting with the Commodore Pet. I refuse to categorise it as a hobby or a career. I have been paid for doing it, though not very often at the moment. I do it because I enjoy it - same reason for most things I do, like electronics design a

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2003-01-17 Thread Scott --sidewalking--
Thus spake Scott --sidewalking-- ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > All, > > I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my > winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. > The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, > as I am so new, but I am still taking

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 07:12:34AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > environment full time, I finally decided to put RedHat 5.1 on my PC. After > ignoring the moron at Future Shop who told me that you couldn't dual boot a > PC, I dual booted it just fine between Linux and '95. It didn't take long

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:50:09AM +, Glyn Millington wrote: > To some extent it goes with the OS. Maybe a liking for the > Under-the-bonnet approach goes with a certain kind of personality? > Certainly in the bad onld days of Winders 95, it was _easier_ to use > Linux than to be constantly fa

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 14:09, Jeff wrote: > Scott --sidewalking--, 2003-Jan-16 16:30 -0700: [snip] > You'll find that the biggest commonality among Linux users is their > love for Linux. Reasons and backgrounds vary widely. This should Or the desire to have a real workstation/server-class OS for

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 15:30, Sam Varghese wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 09:53:02AM -0800, Osamu Aoki spake thus: [snip] > I work as a journalist for the Tech sub-sections of the Web sites of two > Australian broadsheet newspapers - The Age (Me

RE: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
| That doesn't sound at all like the Brooks Robinson I'm familiar with | ... Well the story goes like this Circa 1968/1969 my (then 10 year old) brother was watching a marvelous third baseman. He turns to my mother and asks that if she has another child, could they name it Brooks. My mother

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Lale
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still taking general ed classes in college, and

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Sam Varghese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 09:53:02AM -0800, Osamu Aoki spake thus: > > If you want instant-Linux with passive attitudes and expectations that > evrything is configured by GUI, Debian may not be ready to address needs > of you yet. Debian does not requi

RE: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Mike Dresser
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > Well, yes and no. I have sort of a round about computer history. I got my > first computer when I was 10, a TI-99/4A -- that should date me properly, I spent many hours of playing Tunnels of Doom a few months ago under MESS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Jeff
Scott --sidewalking--, 2003-Jan-16 16:30 -0700: > All, > > I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning > horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on > this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, > but I am still taking genera

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Brian Nelson
"Brooks R. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > | why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > | all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > | long that you have advanced your

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Lloyd Zusman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... > Linux is a version of Unix that first came out in the mid-1990's. > So by now, it's part of the nearly 30-year evolution of the original > Unix. I think it's worth pointing out that the "original" unix was very seriously based on (concepts of) the

RE: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
| I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is | why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking | all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so | long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these | levels that all of yo

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Cam Ellison
* Lloyd Zusman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [ ... ] > > > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > > all of this stuff. Or is it just a h

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Rohan Nicholls
* Scott --sidewalking-- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030117 02:00]: > All, > > I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning > horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on Good choice, the packaging system is amazing. > this list is a little out of my compr

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Russell
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new... I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar career

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread tony
way. Many of us intuitively know that: Who hasn't been shaken after reading "Les miserables"? - Original Message - From: "John Hasler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Curious...Are most of

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 16/01/03 Lloyd Zusman did speaketh: > So to me, the differences between Windows and Linux fall into three > categories: > > 1. Quality -- Unix and its descendants such as Linux are robust, > 2. Religion -- Many people in the Linux world (me included) are > 3. Fun -- For a programmer,

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 04:14, Johann Spies wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:50:09AM +, Glyn Millington wrote: > > "Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers > > > > Doubt it - I'm a Presbyterian minister! > > And

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Kevin . Bewley
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Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread andrej hocevar
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Johann Spies
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:50:09AM +, Glyn Millington wrote: > "Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers > > Doubt it - I'm a Presbyterian minister! And I was a Dutch Reformed minister for 22 years using Linux on my de

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Glyn Millington
"Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers Doubt it - I'm a Presbyterian minister! > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. To some extent it goes with the OS. Maybe a liking

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 11:46:34PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: > But anyways, started out on Slackware in... Hmm. I remember 1.2.x kernels > more than the actual version. Something like version 3.0, which puts > it in 1996? I started getting interested in Linux when my buddy Tabor was going on a

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Steve Juranich
Okay, I'll weigh in. I'm finishing up my master's degree in electrical engineering. My lab is solely Linux and Solaris machines, but used Linux exclusively for a couple of years during my undergrad, too. Everybody used to wonder why my reports looked so much better than everybody else and I w

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 10:23:45PM -0500, Lloyd Zusman wrote: > Linux is a version of Unix that first came out in the mid-1990's. > So by now, it's part of the nearly 30-year evolution of the original > Unix. Since when is 1991 the mid-90's? 8:o) > In other words, MS Windows is a Johnny-come-late

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Erinn
> I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanced your knowledge of Linux/Debian to these > levels that all of y

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 08:08:56PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > I board and train horses and grow hay for a living. Security officer workin the third watch at a research hospital gaurding an enterance. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Deb

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning > horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on > this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, > but I am still

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Mike Dresser
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > All, > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanced yo

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Scott --sidewalking-- said: > All, > > I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning > horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on > this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, > but I am still taki

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Paul E Condon
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: All, I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, but I am still taking general ed classes in college, and a

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Lloyd Zusman
"Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [ ... ] > > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that you have advanc

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Seneca
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning > horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on > this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, > but I am still

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread John Hasler
Scott writes: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is why > you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking all of this > stuff. I board and train horses and grow hay for a living. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-01-16T23:30:54Z, "Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers... I am. I got a degree in Comp. Sci., but was working in system administration before that (I went to school as a "non-traditional student"). > ...and that i

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: > I am new to the Linux world and have settled on Debian as my winning > horse for learning Linux, to the best of my abilities. The talk on > this list is a little out of my comprehension now, as I am so new, > but I am still

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Omnecide
Im still in my junior year of highschool - Original Message - From: "Scott --sidewalking--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling? > All, > > I am new to the Linux world and

Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

2003-01-16 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:30:54PM -0700, Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: [snip] > I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar careers and that is > why you are so proficient with compiling and testing and tweaking > all of this stuff. Or is it just a hobby that has gone on for so > long that yo