On Wed 09 Jan 2019 at 20:43:19 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Wed 09 Jan 2019 at 12:47:42 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 23:51:36 (+), Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 14:37:30 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 18:21:07 (+), Brian wrote:
> >
Both Debian and CentOS are good choices for a server OS.
We use both in my workplace. We don't install a desktop.
It is not required and it is a waste of resources.
Debian is a good fit for developers, as there
is a great breadth of packages, and often more recent.
CentOS is easier to manage as
On Sunday 06 January 2019 12:56:14 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 12:15:09 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > > > screenshot filename.png --fullpage
> >
> > Humm:
> > gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc/nc_files$ sudo apt-get install screenshot
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building
On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
>
> Thank you for your persistence. I was beginning to think your Firefox
> was not from Debian. It appears the feature you describe has disappeared
> from it in more recent versions:
>
> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/05/21/firefox-62-developer-toolbar-removal/
>
It
On Wed 09 Jan 2019 at 12:47:42 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 23:51:36 (+), Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 14:37:30 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 18:21:07 (+), Brian wrote:
> > > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 18:13:58 -0600, David Wright
On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 23:51:36 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 14:37:30 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 18:21:07 (+), Brian wrote:
> > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 18:13:58 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > BTW if this Screenshot method
On 2019-01-05, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> I think the question about is it on purpose on the part of stackexchange
In researching this bug, I recently discovered bugzilla.mozilla.org itself
triggers the bug.
Just drumming up business, as it were, I guess.
On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 14:37:30 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 18:21:07 (+), Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 18:13:58 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > BTW if this Screenshot method is meant to yield a "printable"
> > > document, I haven't yet
On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 18:21:07 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 18:13:58 -0600, David Wright wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > BTW if this Screenshot method is meant to yield a "printable"
> > document, I haven't yet figured out how to print it sensibly.
> > $ lp -d PDF very-long-image.png
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 18:13:58 -0600, David Wright wrote:
[...]
> BTW if this Screenshot method is meant to yield a "printable"
> document, I haven't yet figured out how to print it sensibly.
> $ lp -d PDF very-long-image.png gives me the image on one page,
> and looks, as it happens, like the
Curt wrote:
> Then you, if I'm remembering correctly, joined in to profess your own
> distrust or dislike of stackexchange and your refusal to use Chromium to
> obviate a very long-standing FF bug that you appear to claim or strongly
> suggest only impacts the stackexchange web site.
>
I bag a
On 2019-01-06, deloptes wrote:
> Curt wrote:
>
>> I have no different opinion (I don't think). I know nothing about
>> stackexchange. I am indifferent to stackexchange. However, if you want
>> to print that full thread on stackexchange, like *Gene wanted to print
>> that full thread*, and your
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 12:15:09 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 06 January 2019 11:28:55 David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:37:48 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sunday 06 January 2019 10:17:16 Brian wrote:
> > > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 14:42:08 +0100, deloptes wrote:
>
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 16:53:03 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:28:55 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:37:48 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sunday 06 January 2019 10:17:16 Brian wrote:
> > > > Maybe he would like to use SHIFT+F2 with Firefox (I have
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 18:53:55 +, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:47:16 +, Curt wrote:
> >
> >> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Very awkward, I would say. Which is why it wasn't recommended.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Oops.
> >> >>
On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:47:16 +, Curt wrote:
>
>> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Very awkward, I would say. Which is why it wasn't recommended.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Oops.
>> >>
>> >> Still, Tools --> Web Devloper --> (but there ain't no Developer
On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:47:16 +, Curt wrote:
>
>> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Very awkward, I would say. Which is why it wasn't recommended.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Oops.
>> >>
>> >> Still, Tools --> Web Devloper --> (but there ain't no Developer
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:47:16 +, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Very awkward, I would say. Which is why it wasn't recommended.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Oops.
> >>
> >> Still, Tools --> Web Devloper --> (but there ain't no Developer Toolbar
> >> item).
> >
> > There is
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 12:15:09 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]
> > > > screenshot filename.png --fullpage
> Humm:
> gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc/nc_files$ sudo apt-get install screenshot
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Unable to
On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
>> >
>> > Very awkward, I would say. Which is why it wasn't recommended.
>> >
>>
>> Oops.
>>
>> Still, Tools --> Web Devloper --> (but there ain't no Developer Toolbar
>> item).
>
> There is here (60.4.0esr). Inbetween "Storage Inspector" and "webIDE".
> In any
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:33:56 +, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:05:19 +, Curt wrote:
> >
> >> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I was under the impression that taking screenshots was under the
> >> >> control of the window manager, so
Curt wrote:
> I have no different opinion (I don't think). I know nothing about
> stackexchange. I am indifferent to stackexchange. However, if you want
> to print that full thread on stackexchange, like *Gene wanted to print
> that full thread*, and your horse is so high you won't open Chromium
On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:05:19 +, Curt wrote:
>
>> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was under the impression that taking screenshots was under the
>> >> control of the window manager, so the key combinations might be quite
>> >> different for other
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:05:19 +, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
> >>
> >> I was under the impression that taking screenshots was under the
> >> control of the window manager, so the key combinations might be quite
> >> different for other users.
> >
> > No. FF uses SHIFT+F2.
>
On Sunday 06 January 2019 11:28:55 David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:37:48 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 06 January 2019 10:17:16 Brian wrote:
> > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 14:42:08 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > > > Curt wrote:
> > > > > I suppose you could argue that the
On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
>>
>> I was under the impression that taking screenshots was under the
>> control of the window manager, so the key combinations might be quite
>> different for other users.
>
> No. FF uses SHIFT+F2.
>
It doesn't seem to here (on latest stable Quantum).
Left-click
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:28:55 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:37:48 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 06 January 2019 10:17:16 Brian wrote:
> > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 14:42:08 +0100, deloptes wrote:
[...]
> > > Strictly speaking, the problem does not arise due a
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:37:48 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 06 January 2019 10:17:16 Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 14:42:08 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > > Curt wrote:
> > > > I suppose you could argue that the percentage of Firefox users too
> > > > lazy or bewildered to try
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:37:48 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 06 January 2019 10:17:16 Brian wrote:
[...]
> > Strictly speaking, the problem does not arise due a problem in the
> > printing system. Firefox produces a PDF before dispatching it for
> > printing and that PDF is not a true
On Sunday 06 January 2019 10:17:16 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 14:42:08 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > Curt wrote:
> > > I suppose you could argue that the percentage of Firefox users too
> > > lazy or bewildered to try another browser is good enough for
> > > stackexchange, because,
On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote:
>
> Whether the issue is tackled by Firefox or at the stackexchange end
> is immaterial; this will take time. Meanwhile, there is an elderly
> user who had hoped to read and absorb the material today while eating
> his free lunch.
>
My moral and informatical standards
On Sunday 06 January 2019 08:42:08 deloptes wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> > I suppose you could argue that the percentage of Firefox users too
> > lazy or bewildered to try another browser is good enough for
> > stackexchange, because, goddammit, you take what you can get.
>
> Please be nice - I am not
On 2019-01-06, deloptes wrote:
> Curt wrote:
>
>> I suppose you could argue that the percentage of Firefox users too lazy
>> or bewildered to try another browser is good enough for stackexchange,
>> because, goddammit, you take what you can get.
>
> Please be nice - I am not lazy - I have
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 14:42:08 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Curt wrote:
>
> > I suppose you could argue that the percentage of Firefox users too lazy
> > or bewildered to try another browser is good enough for stackexchange,
> > because, goddammit, you take what you can get.
>
> Please be nice - I
On Sunday 06 January 2019 07:40:44 Curt wrote:
> On 2019-01-06, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> > > I can confirm the 1 page Firefox printing snafu for the
> >> > > stackexchange thread on the most recent stable Quantum. I can
> >> > > also confirm that it is a *very* longstanding bug and that
> >> > >
Curt wrote:
> I suppose you could argue that the percentage of Firefox users too lazy
> or bewildered to try another browser is good enough for stackexchange,
> because, goddammit, you take what you can get.
Please be nice - I am not lazy - I have Chromium, but I do not want to use
it. I like FF
On 2019-01-06, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I can confirm the 1 page Firefox printing snafu for the
>> > > stackexchange thread on the most recent stable Quantum. I can also
>> > > confirm that it is a *very* longstanding bug and that snafu is
>> > > indeed the proper acronymic term.
>> > >
On Saturday 05 January 2019 14:12:44 Brian wrote:
> On Sat 05 Jan 2019 at 13:58:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 January 2019 09:36:19 Curt wrote:
> > > On 2019-01-05, mick crane wrote:
> > > > On 2019-01-04 21:11, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > f course it is printable. Whatever
On Sat 05 Jan 2019 at 13:58:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 05 January 2019 09:36:19 Curt wrote:
>
> > On 2019-01-05, mick crane wrote:
> > > On 2019-01-04 21:11, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > f course it is printable. Whatever you are doing is unknown.
> > >
> > >> My copy of FF only
On Saturday 05 January 2019 09:36:19 Curt wrote:
> On 2019-01-05, mick crane wrote:
> > On 2019-01-04 21:11, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > f course it is printable. Whatever you are doing is unknown.
> >
> >> My copy of FF only prints 1 page, which is the top 3" of the
> >> site's front page, never
On 2019-01-05, mick crane wrote:
> On 2019-01-04 21:11, Gene Heskett wrote:
> f course it is printable. Whatever you are doing is unknown.
>>
>> My copy of FF only prints 1 page, which is the top 3" of the site's
>> front page, never getting down to any of the text past the headline.
>>
>> And
On 2019-01-05, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 05 January 2019 04:14:41 Curt wrote:
>
>> On 2019-01-04, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > My copy of FF only prints 1 page, which is the top 3" of the site's
>> > front page, never getting down to any of the text past the headline.
>>
>> I saved the
On 2019-01-04 21:11, Gene Heskett wrote:
f course it is printable. Whatever you are doing is unknown.
My copy of FF only prints 1 page, which is the top 3" of the site's
front page, never getting down to any of the text past the headline.
And it works on other sites.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 January 2019 04:14:41 Curt wrote:
> On 2019-01-04, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > My copy of FF only prints 1 page, which is the top 3" of the site's
> > front page, never getting down to any of the text past the headline.
>
> I saved the thread to a 7 page pdf file I can send you if
On 2019-01-04, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> My copy of FF only prints 1 page, which is the top 3" of the site's
> front page, never getting down to any of the text past the headline.
I saved the thread to a 7 page pdf file I can send you if you like
(156K).
> And it works on other sites.
>
>
On Friday 04 January 2019 16:27:45 Doug wrote:
> On 01/04/2019 03:52 PM, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 15:27:11 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Friday 04 January 2019 13:46:28 deloptes wrote:
> >>> Gene Heskett wrote:
> I've built 3 rt kernels on the pi, takes it about 4
On Friday 04 January 2019 16:27:44 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > And becoming a bigger problem by each kernel release. Just the
> > bigger stack image a context switch involves takes the 64 bit stuff
> > into the very close to unusable state. Even the hit of enabling pae
> > on the
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Disk /dev/mmcblk0p1: 41 MiB, 42991616 bytes, 83968 sectors
> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> Disklabel type: dos
> Disk identifier: 0x
>
> No
Gene Heskett wrote:
> My copy of FF only prints 1 page, which is the top 3" of the site's
> front page, never getting down to any of the text past the headline.
>
> And it works on other sites.
Same here
Gene Heskett wrote:
> And becoming a bigger problem by each kernel release. Just the bigger
> stack image a context switch involves takes the 64 bit stuff into the
> very close to unusable state. Even the hit of enabling pae on the 32 bit
> stuff is a quite noticeable hit on the rt performance.
On 01/04/2019 03:52 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 15:27:11 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
On Friday 04 January 2019 13:46:28 deloptes wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
I've built 3 rt kernels on the pi, takes it about 4 hours. But for
the life of me, I can't find an installer that
On Friday 04 January 2019 15:57:24 Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 03:27:11PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 04 January 2019 13:46:28 deloptes wrote:
> > > Fore example see "The Boot" here
> > > https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/39959/raspbian-boo
On Friday 04 January 2019 15:38:32 Brian wrote:
> On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 15:27:11 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 04 January 2019 13:46:28 deloptes wrote:
> > > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > I've built 3 rt kernels on the pi, takes it about 4 hours. But
> > > > for the life of me, I can't
On Friday 04 January 2019 14:31:10 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Can I trade the pickity nfs link in on an sshfs version? I use that
> > here as its quite bulletproof. The login without the checksum files
> > might be a hassle though. I'll certainly look that link over, thank
> > you.
Hi Gene,
On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 03:27:11PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 04 January 2019 13:46:28 deloptes wrote:
> > Fore example see "The Boot" here
> > https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/39959/raspbian-boot-pr
> >ocess-and-the-partition-table
>
> One HUGE problem with
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 15:27:11 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 04 January 2019 13:46:28 deloptes wrote:
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I've built 3 rt kernels on the pi, takes it about 4 hours. But for
> > > the life of me, I can't find an installer that will actually do the
> > > pi, its
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 15:27:11 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 04 January 2019 13:46:28 deloptes wrote:
>
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I've built 3 rt kernels on the pi, takes it about 4 hours. But for
> > > the life of me, I can't find an installer that will actually do the
> > > pi,
On Friday 04 January 2019 13:46:28 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I've built 3 rt kernels on the pi, takes it about 4 hours. But for
> > the life of me, I can't find an installer that will actually do the
> > pi, its boot is a separate mess. I'm sure it can be done as I also
> > have a
Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> Given the current cooperation between Devuan and Debian maintainers on
> init-diversity, I'd say that issue is fully resolved, and I'm reassured
> that a distribution like the one I like is going to be available for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> Would you say that
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Can I trade the pickity nfs link in on an sshfs version? I use that here
> as its quite bulletproof. The login without the checksum files might be
> a hassle though. I'll certainly look that link over, thank you.
I don't know about sshfs - not heard that you can mount root
On Friday 04 January 2019 13:46:28 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I've built 3 rt kernels on the pi, takes it about 4 hours. But for
> > the life of me, I can't find an installer that will actually do the
> > pi, its boot is a separate mess. I'm sure it can be done as I also
> > have a
Gene Heskett wrote:
> I've built 3 rt kernels on the pi, takes it about 4 hours. But for the
> life of me, I can't find an installer that will actually do the pi, its
> boot is a separate mess. I'm sure it can be done as I also have a pair
> of rock64's running armbian, and I have seen apt
On Friday 04 January 2019 09:57:07 Curt wrote:
> On 2019-01-04, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> Dear Ivan, no one said something about systemd, because the topic
> >> was discussed and closed on the list.
> >> Not sure about Gene, but I use good old sysv init and for Gods
> >> sake, no one thinks of
On Thu 03/Jan/2019 18:53:14 +0100 Miles Fidelman wrote:
> [...]
> And then there was all the bullshit about how systemd was handled -
> including resignations of core developers over it.
Given the current cooperation between Devuan and Debian maintainers on
init-diversity, I'd say that issue is
On 2019-01-04, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>
>> Dear Ivan, no one said something about systemd, because the topic was
>> discussed and closed on the list.
>> Not sure about Gene, but I use good old sysv init and for Gods sake,
>> no one thinks of running systemd on a firewall (I hope)
>>
> Just one of
On Friday 04 January 2019 03:34:31 deloptes wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Just one of the reasons I have 5 boxes here running wheezy yet, one
> > running jessie. But its an armhf, an r-pi 3b TBE, and it is also
> > behind dd-wrt. Perhaps I should watch the dd-wrt logs to see if
> > Ivan has
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Just one of the reasons I have 5 boxes here running wheezy yet, one
> running jessie. But its an armhf, an r-pi 3b TBE, and it is also behind
> dd-wrt. Perhaps I should watch the dd-wrt logs to see if Ivan has come
> calling but no one answered the doorbell?
:) I bought
On Thursday 03 January 2019 16:12:00 deloptes wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 10:02 PM Ivan Ivanov
wrote:
> > "Debian just plain works" - that's until someone discovers a yet
> > another one 0-day SystemD vuln and your server is Pwned.
> > I am telling it to you as a true Russian hacker,
On 01/02/2019 12:00 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> Hi list,
> I'm new to this list and I'm choosing the right distribution for server
> needs. I hope that I'm not OT and don't want start a flame. I'm evaluating
> the possibility to switch on debian so I hope you will give your experiences
>
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 10:42 PM Ivan Ivanov wrote:
> Well, the topic title is "Why choose Debian on server" and I thought
> of it as a perfect opportunity to compare Debian with another very
> similar OS, Devuan. + To be honest, it is not the removal of a package
> that worried me (of course
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 10:02 PM Ivan Ivanov wrote:
> "Debian just plain works" - that's until someone discovers a yet
> another one 0-day SystemD vuln and your server is Pwned.
> I am telling it to you as a true Russian hacker, mwahahahaha!
> Cheers,
> Ivan Ivanov,
> hacking SystemD while you
Gene Heskett wrote:
> but
> don't burden us users who already have security, with your paranoia. Its
> being very inconvenient to have your paranoia forced on us the users.
>
+1
> Other than that beef, debian just plain works, what more could we need?
+1
On Thursday 03 January 2019 10:24:41 steef wrote:
> having allmost the same history: i agree completely roberto
>
> steef
>
> On 03-01-19 16:12, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 11:51:25AM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> >> Why you choose debian on server? Where for you it
On 1/3/19 5:55 AM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 02:56:41PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
some of the recent politics, has made me far less comfortable that Debian will
remain a stable platform - and I'm seriously considering migrating to either
Gentoo or a BSD platform.
steef wrote:
> having allmost the same history: i agree completely roberto
+1
having allmost the same history: i agree completely roberto
steef
On 03-01-19 16:12, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 11:51:25AM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
Why you choose debian on server? Where for you it is better than centos and
other server distro?
I actually
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 11:51:25AM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>
> Why you choose debian on server? Where for you it is better than centos and
> other server distro?
>
I actually started with Debian on my laptop. As a college student I was
assigned a project that had to run on the school
Hi.
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 02:56:41PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> some of the recent politics, has made me far less comfortable that Debian
> will remain a stable platform - and I'm seriously considering migrating to
> either Gentoo or a BSD platform.
LOL, you've made my day, sir.
Il 02/01/19 20:56, Miles Fidelman ha scritto:
Today, as I face some upgrade issues of my own, I'm really not so sure.
All of the debacle around systemd, and some of the recent politics, has
made me far less comfortable that Debian will remain a stable platform -
and I'm seriously considering
Il 02/01/19 18:03, David Christensen ha scritto:
On 1/2/19 2:51 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
Hi list,
I'm new to this list and I'm choosing the right distribution for
server needs. I hope that I'm not OT and don't want start a flame. I'm
evaluating the possibility to switch on debian so I hope
On 2019-01-02 5:51 a.m., Alessandro Baggi wrote:
Hi list,
I'm new to this list and I'm choosing the right distribution for
server needs. I hope that I'm not OT and don't want start a flame. I'm
evaluating the possibility to switch on debian so I hope you will give
your experiences about this
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:51 AM Alessandro Baggi
wrote:
>
> Why you choose debian on server? Where for you it is better than centos
> and other server distro?
Please see this faq
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-basic_defs.en.html#s-difference
1.5 What is the difference between
On 1/2/19 5:16 PM, deloptes wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
I'm not sure how well GIMP would run on across a network, particularly
if one wants to use a pen. It's really designed to run on a machine
with a head.
so you are saying you can not ssh -X to the server and run your gimp if that
is
Joe wrote:
> I didn't say there would be problems, just that there would not
> normally be a need. The overlap between my workstation's software and
> that of my server is fairly small, largely because the server doesn't
> have a GUI, and most of my workstation software is graphical.
>
> That's
Miles Fidelman wrote:
> I'm not sure how well GIMP would run on across a network, particularly
> if one wants to use a pen. It's really designed to run on a machine
> with a head.
so you are saying you can not ssh -X to the server and run your gimp if that
is what you want? I bet you can and I
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 19:41:41 +0100
deloptes wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
> > Indeed. I'm currently working on getting Debian onto a small Acer
> > laptop, which is not trivial. I've run it on a netbook for several
> > years. But laptops and servers are solutions to different problems,
> > and don't
On 1/2/19 1:41 PM, deloptes wrote:
Joe wrote:
Indeed. I'm currently working on getting Debian onto a small Acer
laptop, which is not trivial. I've run it on a netbook for several
years. But laptops and servers are solutions to different problems, and
don't generally need the same hardware and
On 1/2/19 2:51 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
Hi list,
I'm new to this list and I'm choosing the right distribution for
server needs. I hope that I'm not OT and don't want start a flame.
I'm evaluating the possibility to switch on debian so I hope you will
give your experiences about this
Joe wrote:
> Indeed. I'm currently working on getting Debian onto a small Acer
> laptop, which is not trivial. I've run it on a netbook for several
> years. But laptops and servers are solutions to different problems, and
> don't generally need the same hardware and software. I wouldn't run
>
On 1/2/19 2:51 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
Hi list,
I'm new to this list and I'm choosing the right distribution for server
needs. I hope that I'm not OT and don't want start a flame. I'm
evaluating the possibility to switch on debian so I hope you will give
your experiences about this topic.
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:20:16 +0100
deloptes wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
> > Poor support for new hardware is a general problem for Linux, as
> > hardware is always designed for Windows, and drivers often have to
> > be reverse engineered for Linux. Red Hat is in a somewhat better
> > position than
Joe wrote:
> Poor support for new hardware is a general problem for Linux, as
> hardware is always designed for Windows, and drivers often have to be
> reverse engineered for Linux. Red Hat is in a somewhat better position
> than Debian, but no manufacturer is going to optimise their hardware
>
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 11:51:25 +0100
Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>
> Why you choose debian on server? Where for you it is better than
> centos and other server distro?
Possibly the main selling point is that Debian has always been
continuously upgradeable from one version to the next. Building a
Steve R. Hastings wrote:
I am interested in why people prefer Debian to other Linux
distributions. Please explain the top few reasons why you chose Debian
rather than something else.
(This is also some kind of a rant, read at own risk, see below for
major points)
2.5 years ago I got a
on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 07:11:04PM -0800, Bill Wohler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[Karsten, if you get fresh reasons, be sure to add them to your lists.
These lists, by the way, should also be on the Debian Web site.
Perhaps you can make this happen. PR is a good thing. See also the
recent
on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:43:24PM -0500, David B . Harris ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
To quote Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# 1) The package manager.
Speaking of packages, I think this should be raised.
In general, I find that the quality of Debian packages is better than
most
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:12:34AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
5) A mission to get all configuration out of programs/scripts and
into config files in /etc.
...and more-or-less *flat* in /etc. Lots of subdirs are wonderfully
organized and tidy, but it makes referencing scripts a
on Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:02:00PM +1100, CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:12:34AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
5) A mission to get all configuration out of programs/scripts and
into config files in /etc.
...and more-or-less *flat* in /etc. Lots of
Steve R. Hastings wrote:
I am interested in why people prefer Debian to other Linux
distributions. Please explain the top few reasons why you chose Debian
rather than something else.
I started out in the Linux world with Redhat 5.2, which was a good place
to start. Seemed easy enough,
I am interested in why people prefer Debian to other Linux
distributions. Please explain the top few reasons why you chose Debian
rather than something else.
Perhaps we can collect the responses together, edit them, and put the
result up on the debian.org web page. I have looked and looked,
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