Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-26 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [25.08.08 08:31]: This has never been true and is still not true. It is, of course, the easiest way to weed out the mutt zealots who have never touched a true multi-account client from those mutt users who have and know the difference. Then please state

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Sebastian Günther wrote: Look at account-hook and folder-hook and in combination with a nice source statement, you everything some bloated GUI mailer has. Even more you can easily adjust your profile on folder basis. This has never been true and is still not true. It is, of course, the

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: Are you sure about this ? As of the last time I tested mutt imap, yes, without question. In fact I had gone so far as to take a screencast of mutt deleting 200 messages by copying it to the local machine then uploading it to the trash folder. However, those

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-25 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:44:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: It's all fine IMHO. Now enable trash and see what it does there. It is entirely possible they have fixed that issue since the last time I tried mutt over imap (which was, incidentally, not all that

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,20.Aug.08, 16:19:57, Steve Lamb wrote: [...] I prefer that it handle multiple accounts sanely. I haven't looked into it, but 'muttprofile' seems interesting. Of course, it will probably need a lot of fiddling first. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-23 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Andrei Popescu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [23.08.08 09:49]: On Wed,20.Aug.08, 16:19:57, Steve Lamb wrote: [...] I prefer that it handle multiple accounts sanely. I haven't looked into it, but 'muttprofile' seems interesting. Of course, it will probably need a lot of fiddling first. mutt

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:19:57PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: One of the many faults I find with mutt is its IMAP implementation. In two words, it fails. Copying individual messages from the current folder to any other folder, especially trash, by downloading the message and then

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Steve Kemp
On Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 16:19:57 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: With that one glaring wart hidden I have to say that I've upgraded mutt to viable again. I still don't like having to search for my new mail. If you use the mutt-patched package you can take advantage of the sidebar to have a

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Daniel Burrows wrote: Do you know how this compares to offlineimap? I've been using that to synchronize mailboxes more-or-less happily for the last few years. I do not, no. I have not used offlineimap so cannot make any comparison. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Johann Spies wrote: My experience is not that it is 'horribly slow and inefficient'. Are you sure that it is not a network-related slowness? Of course it is, the fact that mutt is using the network to download-then-upload the messages is the entire problem! Which is going to be faster:

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Steve Kemp wrote: If you use the mutt-patched package you can take advantage of the sidebar to have a toggleable list of mailboxes on the left side of the screen. I've further updated that to allow it to show you only folders with new messages. See here for details, and here for

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:19:57PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: One of the many faults I find with mutt is its IMAP implementation. In two words, it fails. Copying individual messages from the current folder to any other folder, especially trash, by downloading the message and then

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-21 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 03:55:35AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Of course it is, the fact that mutt is using the network to download-then-upload the messages is the entire problem! Which is going to be faster: A: Downloading 2000 messages totaling 10Mb over a 300kps connection then

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-20 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
Hello Steve, Thanks for your heads up on mbsync. I might try it with my GMail accounts, since I still have them on POP precisely for the reason that mutt isn't really capable of handling IMAP fine. But... Quoth Steve Lamb ... The lack of multi-account functionality... What exactly are your

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-20 Thread Steve Lamb
?? ?. wrote: The problem is that Mutt is agnostic to 'accounts', I'll give you that one, but I don't think it'd a useful feature -- think about it, what's an account other than a From: field? For those that needs it different SMTP servers with different SMTP settings,

Re: A viable mutt

2008-08-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:19:57PM -0700, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Enter a tool which made mutt viable for my needs, mbsync (debian package - isync). It is a tool which syncronizes a local Maildir folder with a remote imap folder. In essence it is a local imap