Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-19 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Stone composed on 2018-01-19 08:57 (UTC-0500): ... > It's also possible to use filesystem labels, but in practice it turned out > to be not uncommon for two different systems to have something like "root", > which caused a lot of trouble when you put a drive from one system into >

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-19 Thread Michael Stone
[not responding to the OP, I think he's already gotten an answer. this is for people reading the archive.] The filesystem UUID is written into the filesystem when it is created. It's possible (though not necessarily easy) to change using tune2fs and other specialized filesystem tools. It does

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 06:42:41PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Dave Sherohman wrote: > > What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to > > refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? > > what is the reason to avoid UUIDs? (if not very private) The

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:52:11AM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > Dave Sherohman writes: > > >What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to > >refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? > > I don't know about "recommended" but

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 January 2018 20:25:51 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 18 Jan 2018 at 14:46:26 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 18 January 2018 14:22:13 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 18/01/2018 à 19:54, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > > UUID's have turned out to be quite volatile over

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to >> refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? > One method for you use case it to put /boot or at least /boot/grub > in a plain partition on the same disk as GRUB's core image. Indeed, that's what I

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 08:50:11PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: I've had it happen, too. Feels like recently, but was probably a couple years ago, if not more like 3. I could never figure out how it happened. vfat filesystem? Mike Stone

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 1/18/18, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2018 16:04:26 Don Armstrong wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > On Thursday 18 January 2018 14:22:13 Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> > > Le 18/01/2018 à 19:54, Gene Heskett a écrit : >> > > > UUID's

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread David Wright
On Thu 18 Jan 2018 at 14:46:26 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2018 14:22:13 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 18/01/2018 à 19:54, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > UUID's have turned out to be quite volatile over system upgrades. > > > > Not on mine. > > > > > Give me a familiar

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2018 16:04:26 Don Armstrong wrote: > > Which UUID changed? The filesystem UUID shouldn't change unless you > > reformat the partition, and the partition UUID shouldn't change > > unless you repartition it (or you specifically change

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 January 2018 16:04:26 Don Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 18 January 2018 14:22:13 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 18/01/2018 à 19:54, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > > UUID's have turned out to be quite volatile over system > > > >

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2018 14:22:13 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 18/01/2018 à 19:54, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > UUID's have turned out to be quite volatile over system upgrades. > > > > Not on mine. > > I have had the UUID change on this system, on my

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 January 2018 14:22:13 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 18/01/2018 à 19:54, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > UUID's have turned out to be quite volatile over system upgrades. > > Not on mine. > > > Give me a familiar disklabel any day. > > Don't you mean a filesystem or partition label ? >

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 18/01/2018 à 19:54, Gene Heskett a écrit : UUID's have turned out to be quite volatile over system upgrades. Not on mine. Give me a familiar disklabel any day. Don't you mean a filesystem or partition label ? "Disklabel" is a synonym for "partition table".

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 18/01/2018 à 10:31, Dave Sherohman a écrit : What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? One method for you use case it to put /boot or at least /boot/grub in a plain partition on the same disk as

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 January 2018 12:42:41 deloptes wrote: > Dave Sherohman wrote: > > What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs > > to refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? > > what is the reason to avoid UUIDs? (if not very private) UUID's have

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread David Wright
On Thu 18 Jan 2018 at 11:52:11 (-0500), Marc Auslander wrote: > Dave Sherohman writes: > > >What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to > >refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? > > > > I don't know about "recommended" but

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread deloptes
Dave Sherohman wrote: > What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to > refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? what is the reason to avoid UUIDs? (if not very private)

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Marc Auslander
Dave Sherohman writes: >What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to >refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? > I don't know about "recommended" but could you put your own menu entry into /etc/grub.d and make it the default?

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread David Wright
On Thu 18 Jan 2018 at 07:19:45 (-0600), Dave Sherohman wrote: > My guess at explaining this would be that the GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID > flag is very literal and *only* affects whether "GRUB [passes] > "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux", but not how grub itself identifies > the root device ("set

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:11:32AM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Do, Jan 18, 2018 at 03:31:30 -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > >What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to > >refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? > > In /etc/default/grub I

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Do, Jan 18, 2018 at 03:31:30 -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? In /etc/default/grub I have the option: # Uncomment if you don’t want GRUB to pass

Re: Banishing UUIDs from grub

2018-01-18 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 03:31:30 -0600 Dave Sherohman wrote: > What is the recommended method for preventing grub from using UUIDs to > refer to filesystems in the current Debian stable distribution? not sure about this; have you tried to set GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true