Re: Further to my installation error

Gene Heskett a écrit : > On Friday 25 March 2016 15:48:56 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> Le 20/03/2016 19:58, Gene Heskett a écrit : >>> On Sunday 20 March 2016 14:39:41 Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 20/03/2016 17:56, Gene Heskett a écrit : > Now, I do note that sdb has a re-allocated sector

Re: Further to my installation error

On Friday 25 March 2016 15:48:56 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 20/03/2016 19:58, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > On Sunday 20 March 2016 14:39:41 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> Le 20/03/2016 17:56, Gene Heskett a écrit : > >>> Now, I do note that sdb has a re-allocated sector count of 25, but > >>> no clue

Re: Further to my installation error

Le 20/03/2016 19:58, Gene Heskett a écrit : On Sunday 20 March 2016 14:39:41 Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 20/03/2016 17:56, Gene Heskett a écrit : Now, I do note that sdb has a re-allocated sector count of 25, but no clue as to how many spares are left You can estimate it from the initial and

Re: Further to my installation error

Adam Wilson a écrit : > On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:51:56 +0100 > Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Adam Wilson a écrit : > >>> USB can still >>> only be booted from UEFI, but newer d-i means that installation now >>> proceeds as normal until the point at which UEFI yes/no >>>

Re: Further to my installation error

On Monday 21 March 2016 05:02:12 David Christensen wrote: > On 03/20/2016 04:00 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > It had one - on sda. It wanted the one on sdb as well. I wanted the one > > on sdb left alone. I got what I wanted when I insisted, and the > > resultant installation was quite happy just

Re: Further to my installation error

On 03/20/2016 04:00 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: It had one - on sda. It wanted the one on sdb as well. I wanted the one on sdb left alone. I got what I wanted when I insisted, and the resultant installation was quite happy just using the one disk. And the swap partition on sdb kept its UUID

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sunday 20 March 2016 22:00:01 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 11:54:20 (+0300), Adam Wilson wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 18 March 2016 20:49:55 David Wright wrote: > > > > It's far more likely that you

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sunday 20 March 2016 22:15:16 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 11:53:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > The problem with that is that unless you edit fstab before the initial > > reboot, (difficult to do) > > The d-i has a shell available. The file is /target/etc/fstab so > no

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 11:53:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > The problem with that is that unless you edit fstab before the initial > reboot, (difficult to do) The d-i has a shell available. The file is /target/etc/fstab so no difficulty there. What some people *might* find difficult is

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 11:54:20 (+0300), Adam Wilson wrote: > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 18 March 2016 20:49:55 David Wright wrote: > > > It's far more likely that you forgot to format the partition, if > > > that's indeed what you

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sunday 20 March 2016 19:15:51 Brian wrote: > Being under pressure to complete the task set doesn't lend itself to > considered action and burning a CD can be fraught. Granted. > The quality of the > disk, the burning and the accuracy of reading the burnt disk are things > to take into

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 12:02:14 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 19 March 2016 01:27:33 David Wright wrote: > > > > At this point, you also mentioned repartitioning, reformatting and > > wiping a disk thoroughly. > > > > In the last post (which I commented on when the second paragraph was >

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sunday 20 March 2016 14:39:41 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 20/03/2016 17:56, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > Now, I do note that sdb has a re-allocated sector count of 25, but > > no clue as to how many spares are left > > You can estimate it from the initial and current normalized values of > the

Re: Further to my installation error

Le 20/03/2016 17:56, Gene Heskett a écrit : Now, I do note that sdb has a re-allocated sector count of 25, but no clue as to how many spares are left You can estimate it from the initial and current normalized values of the attribute. Remaining = raw value * norm. value / (init. norm. value

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sunday 20 March 2016 15:53:43 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 20 March 2016 07:47:02 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 20 March 2016 09:34:53 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 20 March 2016 04:54:20 Adam Wilson wrote: > > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + > > > > > > > > Lisi Reisz

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sunday 20 March 2016 09:45:36 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-03-20 05:34 (UTC-0400): > > Adam Wilson wrote: > >> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > No. I checked and double checked that the partitions on the disk > >> > which I wanted to use for

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sunday 20 March 2016 07:47:02 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 20 March 2016 09:34:53 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 20 March 2016 04:54:20 Adam Wilson wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + > > > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Friday 18 March 2016 20:49:55

Re: Further to my installation error

Adam Wilson a écrit : > On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:51:56 +0100 > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> Did you try to boot a non-EFI capable USB boot media, such as a Debian >> live image or a Debian installation image with the EFI partition >> deleted ? (I guess that just changing

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:47:02 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 20 March 2016 09:34:53 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 20 March 2016 04:54:20 Adam Wilson wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + > > > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:51:56 +0100 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Adam Wilson a écrit : > > > > There is a potential problem also where modern machines (with UEFI > > boot) fail to install off USB without UEFI, meaning that if you > > want a UEFI-free install, you have to use

Re: Further to my installation error

Gene Heskett composed on 2016-03-20 05:34 (UTC-0400): Adam Wilson wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > No. I checked and double checked that the partitions on the disk > which I wanted to use for installation were all marked with the F > for format, and that

Re: Further to my installation error

On Wednesday 16 March 2016 20:49:28 Brian wrote: > But the vast majortiy of users are not using the ancient machines you > and I have. The OP is at liberty to indicate whether her machine falls > into this class. A round shiny disc could be her only solution to > booting a Debian image. In this

Re: Further to my installation error

On Saturday 19 March 2016 01:27:33 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 22:21:58 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 18 March 2016 20:49:55 David Wright wrote: > > > It's far more likely that you forgot to format the partition, if > > > that's indeed what you wanted to do. > > > > No.

Re: Further to my installation error

Adam Wilson a écrit : > > There is a potential problem also where modern machines (with UEFI > boot) fail to install off USB without UEFI, meaning that if you want a > UEFI-free install, you have to use optical media. I have a rather old (~2007) UEFI motherboard which does the opposite : its

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sunday 20 March 2016 09:34:53 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 20 March 2016 04:54:20 Adam Wilson wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 18 March 2016 20:49:55 David Wright wrote: > > > > It's far more likely that you forgot

Re: Further to my installation error

On Sunday 20 March 2016 04:54:20 Adam Wilson wrote: > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 18 March 2016 20:49:55 David Wright wrote: > > > It's far more likely that you forgot to format the partition, if > > > that's indeed what you wanted

Re: Further to my installation error

On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:21:58 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 18 March 2016 20:49:55 David Wright wrote: > > It's far more likely that you forgot to format the partition, if > > that's indeed what you wanted to do. > > No. I checked and double checked that the

Re: Further to my installation error

On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:49:55 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 16 Mar 2016 at 14:49:44 (+0300), Adam Wilson wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:41:14 + Lisi Reisz > > wrote: > > > > > So - if you want to format an existing partition

Re: Further to my installation error

On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:50:43 -0400 doug wrote: > While you have GParted running, why not make the partitions you want > using that, and format them to ext4. Then when you go to install > the new system, just tell it to use existing partitions. Provided you aren't

Re: Further to my installation error

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 20:49:28 + Brian wrote: > On Wed 16 Mar 2016 at 16:12:20 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > Brian composed on 2016-03-16 19:21 (UTC): > > > > >On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 22:41:14 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > >>Pity it took me until it tried to use CD1

Re: Further to my installation error

On Wed 16 Mar 2016 at 16:12:20 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2016-03-16 19:21 (UTC): > > >On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 22:41:14 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > >>Pity it took me until it tried to use CD1 to do a net-install to realise > >>that!! And I have now run out of writable CDs.

Re: Further to my installation error

On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:41:14 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > So - if you want to format an existing partition properly, so the > stuff on it actually goes, use Gparted not the partitioner in the > Jessie installer. Sad. Is it possible for the d-i partitioning utility to

Re: Further to my installation error

On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 22:41:14 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 15 March 2016 20:22:23 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > So I am trying to use Gparted on Knoppix to wipe the disk thoroughly and > > I'll try in order (with a good Gparted wipe in between) Net install 8.02 > > Worked a treat. No further

Re: Further to my installation error

On Saturday 19 March 2016 01:27:33 David Wright wrote: > I'm also sorry if placing my comment to you where I did caused you or > other people to think my later paragraphs were also directed at you. > I assumed that my use of the standard ">" and "> >" conventions would > make the referents clear,

Re: Further to my installation error

On Wed 16 Mar 2016 at 14:49:44 (+0300), Adam Wilson wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:41:14 + Lisi Reisz > wrote: > > > So - if you want to format an existing partition properly, so the > > stuff on it actually goes, use Gparted not the partitioner in the > > Jessie

Re: Further to my installation error

Brian composed on 2016-03-16 19:21 (UTC): On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 22:41:14 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: Pity it took me until it tried to use CD1 to do a net-install to realise that!! And I have now run out of writable CDs. :-( I had just enough for this shenanigans! Why any Debian user

Re: Further to my installation error

On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 22:21:58 (+), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 18 March 2016 20:49:55 David Wright wrote: > > It's far more likely that you forgot to format the partition, if > > that's indeed what you wanted to do. > > No. I checked and double checked that the partitions on the disk

Re: Further to my installation error

Brian composed on 2016-03-16 20:49 (UTC): On Wed 16 Mar 2016 at 16:12:20 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Brian composed on 2016-03-16 19:21 (UTC): >Why any Debian user should use an antiquated technology to install is >beyond me. USB sticks are two a penny. Isohybrid images rule; OK! USB

Re: Further to my installation error

On Friday 18 March 2016 20:49:55 David Wright wrote: > It's far more likely that you forgot to format the partition, if > that's indeed what you wanted to do. No. I checked and double checked that the partitions on the disk which I wanted to use for installation were all marked with the F for

Re: Further to my installation error

On 03/15/2016 03:41 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2016 20:22:23 Lisi Reisz wrote: So I am trying to use Gparted on Knoppix to wipe the disk thoroughly and I'll try in order (with a good Gparted wipe in between) Net install 8.02 Worked a treat. No further problems. OS and DE

Re: Further to my installation error

On Tuesday 15 March 2016 20:22:23 Lisi Reisz wrote: > So I am trying to use Gparted on Knoppix to wipe the disk thoroughly and > I'll try in order (with a good Gparted wipe in between) Net install 8.02 Worked a treat. No further problems. OS and DE fully installed and am installing extras like

Re: Further to my installation error

On 03/15/2016 04:22 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: So I am trying to use Gparted on Knoppix to wipe the disk thoroughly and I'll try in order (with a good Gparted wipe in between) Net install 8.02, CD1 8.03, net install 8.0.0 for a minimum install. Then, if I am still remotely, vaguely sane, I'll

Re: Further to my installation error

On Tuesday 15 March 2016 19:37:24 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 07:06:17PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I tried another two and the second one the error message changed to > > "Couldn't download package". > > > > Is there a problem on the Debian site? Or with whatever mirror

Re: Further to my installation error

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 07:06:17PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I tried another two and the second one the error message changed to "Couldn't > download package". > > Is there a problem on the Debian site? Or with whatever mirror it is helping > itself to?? > > Lisi What's the model of the new