Ralf Lehmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Nun fiel mir auf das andere Distris das Debian als basis nutzen. Nun
meine Frage : Sind diese Distris das bessere Debian, da sie auf mehr
Komfort setzen ? Kann man Sie auch gut auf einem Server einsetzen?
Knoppix ist m.E. eine nette Live-CD, die
Hi
groups.google.com als Forum zu bezeichnen, ist nicht ganz richtig...
Die Google-Groups sind ein Usenet-Archiv.
Christian Schmidt wrote:
Nimm doch das Forum auf http://groups.google.com oder
http://www.google.com. Da sollte man eigentlich alle moeglichen
Archive finden...
Gruss
burnstone
Ralf Lehmeier wrote:
Nun fiel mir auf das andere Distris das Debian als basis nutzen. Nun
meine Frage : Sind diese Distris das bessere Debian, da sie auf mehr
Komfort setzen ?
Jede Distri hat ihre Vor- und Nachteile. Was mir so aus eigener
Erfahrung zu Knoppix einfällt:
- Knoppix ist auf
Hallo list,
bitte Realnamen verwenden.
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 31.01.2005 (d.m.y):
groups.google.com als Forum zu bezeichnen, ist nicht ganz richtig...
Die Google-Groups sind ein Usenet-Archiv.
Dessen bin ich mir voellig bewusst, hatte allerdings die Ironietags
vergessen.
Gruss,
Christian
Moin!
* Ralf Lehmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050130 18:25]:
Ich habe in diesem forum schon viele neue Anregungen und Einsichten in
das Debian erhalten.
Wenn man davon absieht, dass das hier kein Forum, sondern eine
Mailingliste ist, ist das doch ganz schön ;)
Nun fiel mir auf das andere
Hallo Ralf!
Ich habe in diesem forum schon viele neue Anregungen und Einsichten in
das Debian erhalten.
Mailing-Liste! Nicht Forum. Obwohl es manchmal praktisch wäre, die
Postings aus der Mailingliste in einem Forum nochmal zu suche
Nun fiel mir auf das andere Distris das Debian als basis
Michael Ott schrieb:
Hallo Ralf!
Ich habe in diesem forum schon viele neue Anregungen und Einsichten in
das Debian erhalten.
Mailing-Liste! Nicht Forum. Obwohl es manchmal praktisch wäre, die
Postings aus der Mailingliste in einem Forum nochmal zu suche
Nun fiel mir auf das andere
Hallo Ralf,
Ralf Lehmeier, 30.01.2005 (d.m.y):
Ich habe in diesem forum schon viele neue Anregungen und Einsichten in
das Debian erhalten.
Nun fiel mir auf das andere Distris das Debian als basis nutzen. Nun
meine Frage : Sind diese Distris das bessere Debian, da sie auf mehr
Komfort
Hallo Michael,
Michael Ott, 30.01.2005 (d.m.y):
Mailing-Liste! Nicht Forum. Obwohl es manchmal praktisch wäre, die
Postings aus der Mailingliste in einem Forum nochmal zu suche
Nimm doch das Forum auf http://groups.google.com oder
http://www.google.com. Da sollte man eigentlich alle
Well, I (horrors!) did the Knoppix HD installation. The HW detection is
somewhat different but works fine. I had to manually set up my ADSL (the
modem did not support PPPoE) and my sound cards were misdetected so I
manually set up ALSA. But it was a good beginning.
I have since upgraded off
Jerome Lacoste wrote:
Hi,
long time Debian user, I often use Knoppix for rescue and test
operations.
There are things that makes the Knoppix boot lean and clean, e.g. the
hardware autodetection, etc...
But I don't have that on my unstable boxes. So I am wondering if it's a
Knoppix special feature
Hello
Jerome Lacoste ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
long time Debian user, I often use Knoppix for rescue and test
operations.
There are things that makes the Knoppix boot lean and clean, e.g. the
hardware autodetection, etc...
But I don't have that on my unstable boxes. So I am wondering
Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
Jerome Lacoste wrote:
Hi,
long time Debian user, I often use Knoppix for rescue and test
operations.
There are things that makes the Knoppix boot lean and clean, e.g. the
hardware autodetection, etc...
But I don't have that on my unstable boxes. So I am wondering if
Hello
Peter Hugosson-Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Jerome Lacoste wrote:
long time Debian user, I often use Knoppix for rescue and test
operations.
There are things that makes the Knoppix boot lean and clean, e.g. the
hardware autodetection, etc...
But I don't have that on my
just a note,
I decided to buy a real copy of Woody. I figure I have enough to
learn without being pushed through hoops over bugs.
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On Wednesday 01 September 2004 08:38 pm, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:
Is there a webpage or faq, or can somebody clue me in to, whether I
should get a regular debian?! Would there be an advantage to, say,
picking up a copy of
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:38:04 GMT, Scotty Fitzgerald
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a webpage or faq, or can somebody clue me in to, whether I
should get a regular debian?! Would there be an advantage to, say,
picking up a copy of Debian Bible and installing that instead over
knoppix
Hello
Scotty Fitzgerald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I am learning Linux due to my incredible hate of Gates' policies and
security vulnerability. I picked up a book with knoppix CD included,
to test the waters.
I really love it, and managed to install debian unstable onto my
hard disk and
On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:38, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:
Hi, I will try to make this newbie post really quick,
I am learning Linux due to my incredible hate of Gates' policies and
security vulnerability.
You have joined the right club!
I picked up a book with knoppix CD included,
Thank you for your replies.
So, there are security issues!! I suppose this means that the
declaration of Sarge being stable will force security conscious users
to migrate to Sarge ( a lot like Gates Co forces people to move by
making a service pack update and refusing support to old service
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 10:11:58AM +, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:
Thank you for your replies.
So, there are security issues!! I suppose this means that the
declaration of Sarge being stable will force security conscious users
to migrate to Sarge ( a lot like Gates Co forces people to
Please read http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html .
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 10:11:58 +, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:
I suppose this means that the declaration of Sarge being stable will force
security conscious users to migrate to Sarge ( a lot like Gates Co
forces people to move by
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 10:11:58AM +, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:
Thank you for your replies.
So, there are security issues!! I suppose this means that the
declaration of Sarge being stable will force security conscious users
to migrate to Sarge ( a lot like Gates Co forces people to
On Thursday 02 September 2004 20:11, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:
Thank you for your replies.
I am thinking of ordering the (big) seven disk set from
an outfit like linuxcdrs.com.
The 7 cd set is most likely Woody probably Rev 2 (3.0r2) which I run.
It has considerable virtue, not least
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 08:38 pm, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:
Is there a webpage or faq, or can somebody clue me in to, whether I
should get a regular debian?! Would there be an advantage to, say,
picking up a copy of Debian Bible and installing that instead over
knoppix debian?
If it's
Am Montag, 30. August 2004 12:02 schrieb Christoph Wegscheider:
Peter Baumgartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Wäre toll wenn du (falls nicht schon getan) einen Bugreport für
debian-installer schreiben würdest, damit das behoben werden kann
reportbug debian-installer
OK, kann ich aber erst
Am Sonntag, 29. August 2004 01:17 schrieb Heino Tiedemann:
Ka, man sollte aber _vorher_ downgraden. Wenn man in der sources.list
einfach stable und unstable rausnimmt, und nur testing
drinlässt, dann hat man einen üblen zustand.
Wieso? Die Pakete aus Woody werden upgedated, und was dann
Christoph Wegscheider schrieb am Fri, 27 Aug 2004:
Kanotix soll übrigens auf purem sid aufbauen und relativ einfach zu
installieren sein.
Ich habe Kanotix BH 6 auf zwei Rechnern (PIII/500MHz parallel zu W'98;
IBM TP 23) über einen HD-Install problemlos zum laufen bekommen. Für die
Updates
Am Freitag, 27. August 2004 17:27 schrieb Robin Haunschild:
Ja! Du müßtest vieles Downdaten und das ist nicht trivial. ;)
Sofern die neueren Versionen keine Probleme machen (und davon ist auszugehen),
kann man auch einfach warten bis eine neuere Version verfügbar ist.
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Werner Mahr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Am Freitag, 27. August 2004 17:27 schrieb Robin Haunschild:
am Freitag, 27. August 2004 16:46 schrieb Christian Synoradzki:
[Knoppix nach Sarge?]
Ja! Du müßtest vieles Downdaten und das ist nicht trivial. ;)
Sofern die neueren Versionen keine
Am Samstag, 28. August 2004 20:00 schrieb Andreas Janssen:
Angesichts der Tatsache, das Teile von Sarge schon eingefroren sind und
die Veröffentlichung bevorsteht kann man da wohl lange warten. Mit
Knoppix=unstable hätte man wahrscheinlich mehr Erfolg.
Es ging mir ja auch um einen Mix aus
Werner Mahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Samstag, 28. August 2004 20:00 schrieb Andreas Janssen:
Angesichts der Tatsache, das Teile von Sarge schon eingefroren sind und
die Veröffentlichung bevorsteht kann man da wohl lange warten. Mit
Knoppix=unstable hätte man wahrscheinlich mehr Erfolg.
Hallo,
am Freitag, 27. August 2004 16:46 schrieb Christian Synoradzki:
Hallo Liste,
Hätte da mal ne Frage.
Was hätte ich für Nachteile wenn ich mir Knoppix 3.6 auf die Festpaltte
kopiere und dann auf sarge/testing update ?
Ja! Du müßtest vieles Downdaten und das ist nicht trivial. ;)
So
Christian Synoradzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Was hätte ich für Nachteile wenn ich mir Knoppix 3.6 auf die Festpaltte
kopiere und dann auf sarge/testing update ?
So würde ich doch, das ganze Installieren und konfigurieren umgehen und
hätte schnell ein vernünftiges, vorkonfiguriertes
Am Freitag 27 August 2004 17:30 schrieb Christoph Wegscheider:
Kanotix soll übrigens auf purem sid aufbauen und relativ einfach zu
installieren sein.
das wäre vielleicht noch interessant.
meinerseits habe ich im letzen oktober knoppix 3.3 per hdinstall installiert.
mit dist-upgrade etc. habe
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Am Freitag, 27. August 2004 17:30 schrieb Christoph Wegscheider:
Kanotix soll übrigens auf purem sid aufbauen und relativ einfach zu
installieren sein.
Das ist so. Kanotix besteht nur aus Paketen aus Sid, sodass man problemlos
sein System per
I still have no DRI. Daenzer packages are hard enough to compile. A friend
finally go it compiled for 2.4.22-xfs but it does not catch. There are now
binaries around that ask a few questions and attempt the compile for you.
This does not mean it will procede nor does it mean the module will do
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:54:43AM +0100, David Baron wrote:
I still have no DRI. Daenzer packages are hard enough to compile. A friend
When people report glxgears framerates, are they reporting it with the
small window that comes up by default? Or when the window is maximised?
$ fglrxinfo
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 09:07:40AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
glxinfo | more
and then about the fourth line down to see if you have DRI enabled.
Thanks - also for the others for their answers.
A further question: I see that DRI is not enabled for me. How do I
enable it?
I have the
Johann Spies wrote:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 09:07:40AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
glxinfo | more
and then about the fourth line down to see if you have DRI enabled.
Thanks - also for the others for their answers.
A further question: I see that DRI is not enabled for me. How do I
enable
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 09:25:31AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
Johann Spies wrote:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 09:07:40AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
glxinfo | more
and then about the fourth line down to see if you have DRI enabled.
Thanks - also for the others for their answers.
A
On Friday 05 March 2004 17:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well, found the first problem.
Don't run setiathome while glxgears is running.
1800 fps now. Much more respectable.
Oh, yeah!! An admitted CPU hog.
Don't let the ETs steal your CPU-cycles :-)
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On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Pål Dahle wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a Dell D600 laptop with a ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 M9 graphics
card.
Different laptop, but same graphics card here.
Now, I am somewhat frustrated about the fact that Knoppix beats the shit
out of sid when it comes
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, [iso-8859-1] Pål Dahle wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a Dell D600 laptop with a ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 M9 graphics
P4 2.53, Geforce4 MX 440(hey, i didn't want it, it was given to me at
work)
With DRI on Sid, i get around 175 fps.
Without DRI on Knoppix, i get around 350.
Both
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Pål Dahle wrote:
DRI | Knoppix Sid
yes |1330 800
no | 380 320
Sorry for showing my ignorance, but how do you measure this?
Regards
Johann
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Mike Dresser wrote:
I'm sure I've done something wrong on both problems :)
Well, found the first problem.
Don't run setiathome while glxgears is running.
1800 fps now. Much more respectable.
Mike
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On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 04:24:11PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Pål Dahle wrote:
DRI | Knoppix Sid
yes |1330 800
no | 380 320
Sorry for showing my ignorance, but how do you measure this?
Just run
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 04:24:11PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Pål Dahle wrote:
DRI | Knoppix Sid
yes |1330 800
no | 380 320
Sorry for showing my ignorance, but how do you measure this?
You're not ignorant in the least.
Johann Spies wrote:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Pål Dahle wrote:
DRI | Knoppix Sid
yes |1330 800
no | 380 320
Sorry for showing my ignorance, but how do you measure this?
Regards
Johann
glxinfo | more
and then about the fourth line down to see if
Fredag den 5. marts 2004 15:20 skrev Mike Dresser:
The other annoying thing is that XFree 4.3.0 takes about 35 seconds
to start, compared to the 8 of 4.2.x
Your are not the only one that have got this slow start up of the
XFree86 on unstable. I see this too on my Intel Graphics Exteme
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 03:22:14PM -0700, s. keeling wrote:
I blame Microsoft directly for having created an environment in which
malware thrives. The virus and worm writers are merely supplying the
payload that exploits that environment. And we all end up paying for
the mess everytime some
Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't like Microsoft because they make proprietary software, not
because their proprietary software isn't good enough. For most
people in most situations it's good enough. If you don't believe me
look around.
I don't have to look further than my
On Monday 09 February 2004 23:10, Paul Morgan wrote:
The point being that if you install debian, and ask questions which
show that you're thinking and trying to learn, debian folks will bend
over backwards and stay up all night helping you out, for free. There
are many in here who will attest
Katipo wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 23:04:57 -0500
Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 08 February 2004 7:18 pm, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 02:16:33PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
Snip
I just have to say that I find this cluebie/stupid nonsense you keep
Incoming from Sam Halliday:
i cant believe i just replied to an anti-microsoft troll on debian-user
Rest assured, you didn't. On my more reasonable days, I can agree
that there may actually be a small number of situations where someone
will have no alternative to using crapware. Poor
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 06:22:08PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:25:33AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
What interests me at this point is if and when there will be a live-cd
== Debian (stable, testing, unstable)
When it's time to railroad, people start railroading. That's
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 16:58:48 -0500
Adam Aube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 08 February 2004 03:19 pm, Sneferu wrote:
I'd say that the solutions to all this problems is mepis.org ;-)
Agreed - MEPIS is the Linux distro I would recommend to a newbie.
In a Spawn of Debian faceoff, it
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 23:04:57 -0500
Jeff Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 08 February 2004 7:18 pm, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 02:16:33PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
Snip
I just have to say that I find this cluebie/stupid nonsense you keep
spouting very offputting
Dale Welch wrote:
And i was probably building computers when your mama was changing
your diapers . . .
To whom does your refer? If to Kent, then Nope.
after all i was born a few months after Kennedy was shot...
Kent was born a few months before Kennedy was shot.
Age is
On Monday 09 February 2004 02:50 am, Katipo wrote:
Yes, I read that article. I'm afraid that I don't place much credence
in the reviewers' assessment ability.
To quote the author from the final article in the series:
Another thing for certain: just looking at the score doesn't begin to do
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 08:06, Haines Brown wrote:
Dale Welch wrote:
And i was probably building computers when your mama was changing
your diapers . . .
To whom does your refer? If to Kent, then Nope.
after all i was born a few months after Kennedy was shot...
Kent
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 11:04:57PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:
On Sunday 08 February 2004 7:18 pm, Marc Wilson wrote:
snip
Then they should use it. I couldn't care less whether someone uses Debian,
Knoppix, SuSE, Mandrake, or even Windows. Cluebies have been shooting
themselves in the
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 08:05:15PM -0800, Dale Welch wrote:
I would like at some point to build a version based on
stable. Perhaps late this year after my 2nd brain surgery :-)
I've subscribed to a brain surgery user list. I can do your surgery
and then you can get started on the
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 08:13:07PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 06:32:54PM -0800, Dale Welch wrote:
For him and many other people having an easy install OS is imperative.
No. John Q. Public has no business pretending he's competent to install a
complex operating
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:33:15 +0800, Katipo wrote:
How much further ahead would Debian be if it already incorporated
Knoppixs' hardware recognition, Adamantixs' security features and
Xandros' drag and drop capability? Instead I have sat back and watched
as supposedly mature aged individuals
Incoming from Paul Morgan:
You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti
M$ remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes,
This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired. Microsoft
software sucks, bigtime! Anyone looking at the amount
s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Paul Morgan:
You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of
infantile antiM$ remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired.
I use several OSes,
This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired. Microsoft
software sucks, bigtime! Anyone
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:50:17 -0700, s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Paul Morgan:
You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti
M$ remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes,
This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired.
s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Paul Morgan:
You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti
M$ remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes,
This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired. Microsoft
software sucks, bigtime! Anyone
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:11:15 +, Sam Halliday wrote:
i cant believe i just replied to an anti-microsoft troll on debian-user
:-/
I'll note it in my diary, Sam :
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It is important to realize that any lock can be picked with a big
enough hammer.
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 21:04:34 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
[snip]
If the idea is to dumb things down so that the stupids don't have to think,
eventually all that will be left are the stupids.
[snip]
Ha! Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want
to use it.
I've just
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:25:17 -0600
Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Paul Morgan:
Snip
This is the first time I have to disagree with you S. Keeling. Users
of CAD (espe. AutoCad) realy have to use windose. No maker of
professional CAD is
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:59:43 -0500
Paul Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:50:17 -0700, s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Paul Morgan:
You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of
infantile anti M$ remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired.
I
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:43:41 +0800, Katipo wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:59:43 -0500
Paul Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:50:17 -0700, s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Paul Morgan:
You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of
infantile anti M$
On Feb 9, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
This is the first time I have to disagree with you S. Keeling. Users
of CAD (espe. AutoCad) realy have to use windose. No maker of
professional CAD is porting to linux. I know a shop here that builds
buildings and they all use Autocad.
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 16:25, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Paul Morgan:
You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti
M$ remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes,
This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and
Nate Duehr wrote:
Damon Chesser wrote:
This is the first time I have to disagree with you S. Keeling.
Users of CAD (espe. AutoCad) realy have to use windose. No maker
of professional CAD is porting to linux. I know a shop here that
builds buildings and they all use Autocad. Their
Nate Duehr wrote:
On Feb 9, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
This is the first time I have to disagree with you S. Keeling. Users
of CAD (espe. AutoCad) realy have to use windose. No maker of
professional CAD is porting to linux. I know a shop here that builds
buildings and they
On Feb 9, 2004, at 5:29 PM, Sam Halliday wrote:
now please can we stop this thread and get back to debian related
issues?
This from the person who took the time to answer the original poster's
anti-Microsoft comments with non-Linux/non-Debian advocacy on a Linux
list???
You started it, sir. I
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:04:17AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 11:04:57PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:
On Sunday 08 February 2004 7:18 pm, Marc Wilson wrote:
snip
Then they should use it. I couldn't care less whether someone uses Debian,
Knoppix, SuSE, Mandrake, or even
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:25:33AM -0500, Mike M wrote:
I think live-cds demonstrate the easy-to-install GPOS are feasible.
No one said they weren't feasable. The installation isn't the issue. The
*maintenance* of it is.
Put another way... we already have umpteen zillion poorly-administered
Nate Duehr wrote:
While you may be very intelligent regarding CAD software, you sure
seem willing to attack people like myself who are only pointing out
alternatives that ARE Linux-related on a Linux mailing list, and then
claiming that *I* took the conversation off-topic? Wow. Quite bold
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:29:35AM +, Sam Halliday wrote:
varicad is a joke for serious work... speak to an expert, and they will
tell you the same thing. even autocad is described as too simplistic
by a few mechanical engineers i know, and architects (REAL architects,
not extension to
Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:29:35AM +, Sam Halliday wrote:
varicad is a joke for serious work... speak to an expert, and they
will tell you the same thing. even autocad is described as too
simplistic by a few mechanical engineers i know, and architects
(REAL
* Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040207 18:05]:
I think there is a place for Knoppix in introducing newbies to Debian.
I'm not a Debian newbie, but in the past year I've used Knoppix for new
installs on a few pieces of unfamiliar hardware. When an old laptop
falls into your hands, and you
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 10:15:38AM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote:
When an old laptop falls into your hands, and you don't have any
documentation on it, it's easier to use Knoppix and then upgrade to
Debian than it is to do the work needed to install Debian directly. So
long as the end result is
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 08:44:28AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
Feh. While it may well work for you, who has clue, anyone who suggests to
a cluebie that using Knoppix is a way to get Debian should be shot.
Well a lot of new users like Knoppix and would like to have it on
the hard disk. Is it ok
Hello
Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 08:44:28AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
Feh. While it may well work for you, who has clue, anyone who
suggests to a cluebie that using Knoppix is a way to get Debian
should be shot.
Well a lot of new users like Knoppix
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 08:40:33PM +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote:
Using Knoppix on the hard disk means no security updates, a system only
upgradable to unstable, and a lot of possible problems for beginners.
It all depends on what kind of beginner. When I was new to Debian my
major problems were
I'd say that the solutions to all this problems is mepis.org ;-)
Can still be used as livecd, and if you like what you see just double click
pe Install icon on the desktop...
I don't think that a debian-like-system can be any easy than this...my 13
years old cousin got it up-n-working in less
* Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040208 10:44]:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 10:15:38AM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote:
When an old laptop falls into your hands, and you don't have any
documentation on it, it's easier to use Knoppix and then upgrade to
Debian than it is to do the work needed to
On Sunday 08 February 2004 03:19 pm, Sneferu wrote:
I'd say that the solutions to all this problems is mepis.org ;-)
Agreed - MEPIS is the Linux distro I would recommend to a newbie.
In a Spawn of Debian faceoff, it beat Lindows, Xandros, and Libranet.
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 02:16:33PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
Well a lot of new users like Knoppix and would like to have it on
the hard disk. Is it ok for them to use it, or will the secret police
come and shoot them for not using pure Debian instead too.
Then they should use it. I
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:16:33 -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 08:44:28AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
Feh. While it may well work for you, who has clue, anyone who suggests to
a cluebie that using Knoppix is a way to get Debian should be shot.
Well a lot of new users like
And i was probably building computers when your mama was changing your
diapers... since i learned basic on a trash-80 model-1 when i was barely a
teenager (ok so some would say i am just as bad calling the trs-80 by the
popular term of trash-80 --- i knew some guys who ran a good bbs on a
Dale Welch wrote:
And i was probably building computers when your mama was changing your
diapers . . .
To whom does your refer? If to Kent, then Nope.
after all i was
born a few months after Kennedy was shot...
Kent was born a few months before Kennedy was shot.
--
Kent
--
To
I apologize to my elder... it was not to you though i realize i quoted
you. :-)
It was to Marc i spoke and perhaps others... that particular attitude while
strong in my generation... is even stronger in a younger crowd. ;-) But
perhaps marc has fooled me and is older than either of us.
But
On Sunday 08 February 2004 7:18 pm, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 02:16:33PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
Well a lot of new users like Knoppix and would like to have it on
the hard disk. Is it ok for them to use it, or will the secret police
come and shoot them for not using
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 08:05:15PM -0800, Dale Welch wrote:
---dale
---it is ok to have no rules...
so long as everyone follows the rules
Evey asks: All this riot and uproar, V...is this anarchy? Is this the
land of do-as-you-please? He responds: No. This is only the land of
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 06:32:54PM -0800, Dale Welch wrote:
And i was probably building computers when your mama was changing your
diapers...
Well, let's see. I was born in 1964. I've been doing computers since 1980
or so. The first machine I owned was an 8080A-based machine called an
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