Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:03:36 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Thu 13 Sep 2018 at 20:48:35 +0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:47:01 +0200 > > deloptes wrote: > > > > > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > > > > > For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a > > > > show

Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Brian
On Thu 13 Sep 2018 at 20:48:35 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:47:01 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > > > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > > > For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a > > > show stopper. > > > > I see it as a temporary resolution. I think this should

Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:47:01 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a > > show stopper. > > I see it as a temporary resolution. I think this should be reported > and developers should come it a fix. Do we know that

Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread deloptes
Jude DaShiell wrote: > For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a show > stopper. I see it as a temporary resolution. I think this should be reported and developers should come it a fix. Do we know that other usb audio devices suffer the same? regards

Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a show stopper. On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, Joe wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:34:23 > From: Joe > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED] > Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:34:40 +

Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 09:12:33 +0100 Joe wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:36:20 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > > > Then I looked > > at /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file. I noticed the following at > > end of file. > > > > # Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard > >

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:36:20 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Joe wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:23:58 +0200 > > deloptes wrote: > > I also found this > http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/10/04/how-to-get-usb-sound-adapter-0d8c000c-working-as-primary-sound-card-in-debian-linux/ > > > When

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-13 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:23:58 +0200 > deloptes wrote: I also found this http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/10/04/how-to-get-usb-sound-adapter-0d8c000c-working-as-primary-sound-card-in-debian-linux/ When I googled, I was adviced to try without USB hub. So I directly connected

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > That's not on any compatibility list anywhere, but it has worked OK for > years on Wheezy on the same computer hardware. Anyway, USB is USB, and > there really shouldn't be compatibility issues for at least basic > playback. I'm not trying to record or use SPDIF. could be that

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread Joe
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:53:39 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > does the command alsa-info give a clue? > > > > I didn't know about that one. It gives pages of stuff that look like > > what I used to find in /proc/asound, it certainly knows all about > > the USB device. No error messages, no

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, arne wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:26:56 > From: arne > To: deloptes > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, sp113...@telfort.nl > Subject: Re: Sound in Stretch > Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:27:13 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debi

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > does the command alsa-info give a clue? > > I didn't know about that one. It gives pages of stuff that look like > what I used to find in /proc/asound, it certainly knows all about the > USB device. No error messages, no suggestion as to what might be > missing. Since it's USB, the obvious

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Curt wrote: > curty@einstein:~$ /usr/sbin/alsa > alsabat-test  alsactl       alsa-info thanks - i didn't look in sbin regards

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > Is there conceivably an issue in Stretch of having USB sound but no > on-board sound? Is that causing the boot process not to build the sound > infrastructure properly? There is a spare PCIe slot, but it's tiny, and > I'm not sure I can get a cheap card that will physically fit. I

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Joe
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:23:58 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Joe wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:26 +0200 > > > > > OK, aplay -l as root sees my USB device as card 1. > > why as root - are you in the audio group? No users in audio yet apart from the original installation user. The ssh

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Brian
On Tue 11 Sep 2018 at 08:23:58 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Joe wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:26 +0200 > > > > > OK, aplay -l as root sees my USB device as card 1. > > why as root - are you in the audio group? Having a user in the audio group is unnecessary. ACLs on the devices are

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Brian
On Tue 11 Sep 2018 at 08:27:02 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > alsa-base > > in stretch there is no alsa-base That isn't in dispute. -- Brian.

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-11, deloptes wrote: > arne wrote: > >> does the command alsa-info give a clue? > > what is alsa-info? > > $ alsa > alsabatalsa_inalsaloop alsamixer alsa_out alsatplg alsaucm > > regards > > > curty@einstein:~$ /usr/sbin/alsa alsabat-test alsactl alsa-info

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Brian wrote: > alsa-base in stretch there is no alsa-base $ dpkg -l | grep alsa ii alsa-utils 1.1.3-1 amd64Utilities for configuring and using ALSA ii gstreamer1.0-alsa:amd64 1.10.4-1

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:26 +0200 > > OK, aplay -l as root sees my USB device as card 1. why as root - are you in the audio group? $ grep audio /etc/group audio:x:29:abcdef,pulse,timidity > > I have various sound modules loaded, including snd, soundcore and > snd_usb_audio. I

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > It occurs to me that there are no snd_xxx_codec modules loaded. Is that > significant? yes - seems like - what is your sound card - manufacturer?

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
arne wrote: > does the command alsa-info give a clue? what is alsa-info? $ alsa alsabatalsa_inalsaloop alsamixer alsa_out alsatplg alsaucm regards

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/10/2018 04:22 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote: There's no alsa-base in Stretch. Should there be some other way of producing sounds? If you're looking for alsamixer, it's in alsa-utils. ALSA should just work out of the box for most users

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Joe
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:50:30 +0100 Joe wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:26:56 +0200 > arne wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:49:34 +0200 > > deloptes wrote: > > > > > Joe wrote: > > > > > > > alsamixer > > > > > > > > cannot open mixer: No such file or directory > > > > > > > > I

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Joe
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:26 +0200 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:33:30PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:22:38 -0400 > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Joe
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:26:56 +0200 arne wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:49:34 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > > > Joe wrote: > > > > > alsamixer > > > > > > cannot open mixer: No such file or directory > > > > > > I always used to start sound troubleshooting by looking > > > in /proc/asound to

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Sep 2018 at 21:19:09 +0100, Joe wrote: > > There's no alsa-base in Stretch. > > Should there be some other way of producing sounds? In jessie alsa-base has precisely two files: /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/changelog.gz /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/copyright It is doubtful either of

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread arne
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:49:34 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Joe wrote: > > > alsamixer > > > > cannot open mixer: No such file or directory > > > > I always used to start sound troubleshooting by looking > > in /proc/asound to find out what the system thought my sound cards > > were, but that

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:33:30PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:22:38 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > > > > There's no alsa-base in Stretch. > > > > > > Should there be

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > alsamixer > > cannot open mixer: No such file or directory > > I always used to start sound troubleshooting by looking in /proc/asound > to find out what the system thought my sound cards were, but that > directory no longer exists. you sure you have the driver loaded? ls -al

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Joe
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:22:38 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > > There's no alsa-base in Stretch. > > > > Should there be some other way of producing sounds? > > If you're looking for alsamixer, it's in alsa-utils. ALSA should just >

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > There's no alsa-base in Stretch. > > Should there be some other way of producing sounds? If you're looking for alsamixer, it's in alsa-utils. ALSA should just work out of the box for most users who skip the Desktop Environment during