Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 01:02:48PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 06:07:32PM +0200, Hans wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018, 17:43:47 CEST schrieb Henrique de Moraes > > Holschuh: > > > > Maybe I was not clear enough. I did not mourn,. that packages are

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread John Hasler
Henrique de Moraes Hols writes: > Same goes for dist-upgrade. dist-upgrade/full-upgrade will more > aggressively attempt to remove packages than the alternatives > safe-upgrade and upgrade. I always do "upgrade" and look at what did not get upgraded and why. I then sometimes follow with

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 06:07:32PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Am Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018, 17:43:47 CEST schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > > Maybe I was not clear enough. I did not mourn,. that packages are > dienstalled, > this may happen in testing. I mourned,m that almost ALL SECURITY related

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018, 17:43:47 CEST schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: Maybe I was not clear enough. I did not mourn,. that packages are dienstalled, this may happen in testing. I mourned,m that almost ALL SECURITY related packages are deinstalled. And I would have nothing said, if it

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, The Wanderer wrote: > >> be warned: Wheh you do apt full-upgrade, > > > > You're in testing: what are you "full-upgrade"-ing to and why? > > To testing, of course. Eh, I believe the meant that as "why are you using full-upgrade instead of safe-upgrade or upgrade" (depending

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-07-15 at 10:09, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 15 Jul 2018 at 07:49:36 (+0200), Hans wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> be warned: Wheh you do apt full-upgrade, > > You're in testing: what are you "full-upgrade"-ing to and why? To testing, of course. Just because you're running testing

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Jul 2018 at 07:49:36 (+0200), Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > be warned: Wheh you do apt full-upgrade, You're in testing: what are you "full-upgrade"-ing to and why? > then most security tools, we rely on, > are deinstallesd. These are rkhunter, chrootkit, autopsy, tripwire, >

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread likcoras
On 07/15/2018 02:49 PM, Hans wrote: > be warned: Wheh you do apt full-upgrade, then most security tools, we rely > on, > are deinstallesd. These are rkhunter, chrootkit, autopsy, tripwire, > needrestart and tiger. Also forensics-full and forensics-all are deinstalled > (however, this might