On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
Isn't X the GUI that started it all though? And the codes are there
for all to see; so perhaps it served as the reference from which
MSWindows, MAC and the others have evolved? The guys who wrote MAC
and Windows must have studied X-Windows in
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Bill Bumgarner wrote:
Maybe I'm just spoiled by years of NEXTSTEP-- but, damnit, NEXTSTEP
really is the most well-inntegrated user inrface *ever* built.
Seriously.
i suppose that's a matter of personal preference.
I have to work with nextstep machines and can't stand
On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Shaya Potter wrote:
On a sidebar, has anyone noticed that all of Jobs's companies have
had good UIs. Apple, Next,
But they still operate under the assumption that the user has three hands.
Or at least a prehensile, well, never mind...
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From: Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Nah, Xerox at PARC invented the GUI, they actually made a computer that
used it, but it was really bad. Both Steve Jobs (Mac guy) and Bill Gates
visited PARC and saw their GUI. They both saw that this was where the
computer interface should head.
Is there a debian-talk list? This is surely a candidate.
Bill So far the 'differences' have primarily been comprised of
Bill just plain crappy UI. Some apps let you double-click to
Bill select a word, some don't. Some let you triple-click to
Bill select a paragraph, some
From: Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not a GUI programmer, so maybe its a neato devel platform,
but 99.99% of people using computers aren't writing GUIs.
Yes, it was wonderful to develop for.
Again, I'm not a developer, but NeXT seems to have achieved
virtual bankrupcy.
I
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Bill Bumgarner wrote:
# Have look at the kde project.
The problem with kde is that they use qt, which has a very
restrictive license that makes it non-free software (in
particular, they do not allow any modified version of the
library to be distributed).
Remember it
Bill Bumgarner wrote:
# Have look at the kde project.
I will-- and if it is as cool as you make it sound, I'll happily put
together the debian packaging information...
The problem with kde is that they use qt, which has a very
restrictive license that makes it non-free software (in
Stephen Early wrote:
Ah. The X Window System is not a user interface. It is a standard by
which applications can drive displays and input devices. It provides
mechanism, not policy.
Sure. But I must remind you that we are concerned with
developping Debian, not X per se. Using the above as
[claws out]
[box on]
I have to vent.
OK,
I cannot believe that after HOW MANY years of development, X windows is
still such a completely inconsistent and painful user interface.
# I think you forgot to include open, free, expandable, flexible, . . .
Free, yes.
Expandable--
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Bill Bumgarner wrote:
# Have look at the kde project.
I
Bill Bumgarner writes:
Now that I have an answer on the libc front (ie; 1.2 will ship with =
5.4.7), I'm going to reboot to Linux and produce 'official' 5.4.7 =
compliant GCC 2.7.2.1 + GnuStep Threading Patches in short order. =20
BTW: For now, I'm using the built in MIT_POSIX_THREADS. Who
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Early) wrote on 15.11.96 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Creating a user interface under X that is as good as NextStep is just
a matter of getting every X application author to agree to adhere to
the same policy. I wish you luck.
Actually, this is a very good description of
Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Early wrote:
Creating a user interface under X that is as good as NextStep is just
a matter of getting every X application author to agree to adhere to
the same policy. I wish you luck.
I agree that this is very diffcult. But the Debian developers
Stephen Early wrote:
Creating a user interface under X that is as good as NextStep is just
a matter of getting every X application author to agree to adhere to
the same policy. I wish you luck.
Herbert Xu wrote:
I agree that this is very diffcult. But the Debian developers
should do their
Actually-- I thought it was appropriate for the devel list since it may
affect future development of debian at the user interface level.
Regardless, my followup is to debian-user only.
There is no inter-application communication or awareness to speak of.
# This can be handelt via
I'll repost this again now that the lists are back up. :-)
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Bill Bumgarner wrote:
I have to vent.
Vent on, dude.
I cannot believe that after HOW MANY years of development, X windows is
still such a completely inconsistent and painful user interface.
The STUPIDITY of the whole
[box on]
I have to vent.
OK,
I cannot believe that after HOW MANY years of development, X windows is
still such a completely inconsistent and painful user interface.
I think you forgot to include open, free, expandable, flexible, . . . .
The STUPIDITY of the whole thing is
Jim asked about GnuStep; Well-- a complete set of GnuStep packages have been
built by Karl Sackett and are awaiting my work on gcc [an attempt to fix a
crasher in the optimizer that causes the base GnuStep library to NOT be built
with optimization-- UGH!] before release.
Now that I have an
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