Re: Console resolution

2011-02-25 Thread Dom
On 18/02/11 20:11, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2011-02-18 20:22 +0100, Dom wrote: On 18/02/11 18:24, Camaleón wrote: To make this a bit more clear, nvidia card owners can run either: a) KMS+nouveau b) nvidia propietary driver c) vesa/fb d) nv (obsolete but still available, AFAICT) d) is the

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 18 feb 11, 19:22:07, Dom wrote: d) is the only option that worked for one of my machines. It used to run the nvidia driver, but stopped working when I upgraded it to squeeze and it tried to use the nouveau driver. Removing all traces of the nvidia driver and just using nouveau

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-19 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:49:33 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: To make this a bit more clear, nvidia card owners can run either: a) KMS+nouveau so, what is this, why would I want it? It's another driver available for your card. It is open source and it uses reverse engineering techniques

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-19 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:56:50 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: 2011/2/18 Camaleón What is what you tried hard, exactly? from rescue mode chrooting to recompile kernel after a not even system-base-install alternate cd netinstall. Booting from hard disk resulted in complete unusable system with vt

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-19 Thread Pier Paolo
2011/2/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:56:50 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: 2011/2/18 Camaleón What is what you tried hard, exactly? from rescue mode chrooting to recompile kernel after a not even system-base-install alternate cd netinstall. Booting from hard disk

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:55:55 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: 2011/2/19 Camaleón I asked what you tried hard for the easy way, what steps did you follow and what errors did you get. Can't recall exactly... some procedure from the wiki; i think i blacklisted nouveau, and tried to install

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-19 Thread Pier Paolo
2011/2/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:55:55 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: 2011/2/19 Camaleón I asked what you tried hard for the easy way, what steps did you follow and what errors did you get. Can't recall exactly... some procedure from the wiki; i think i

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:17:15 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: 2011/2/19 Camaleón Can't recall exactly... some procedure from the wiki; i think i blacklisted nouveau, and tried to install kernel-nvidia something, but substantially that won't prevent nouveau from loading and messing up console.

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:07:51 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: I am not new to the linux way of things but I am new to the debain way of things and I have some questions that need to be answered. To start, I need to ket rid of nouveau as it's screwing with uvesafb (produces an 'Error -22').

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Pier Paolo
2011/2/18 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:07:51 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: I am not new to the linux way of things but I am new to the debain way of things and I have some questions that need to be answered. To start, I need to ket rid of nouveau as it's screwing with

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-02-18 a las 10:33 -0500, Chris Brennan escribió: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: By installing nvidia driver, nuvó should not be loaded. the non-free nvidia driver script/installer dies, complaining that nouveau is present and needs to be removed first, this is

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Camaleón wrote: El 2011-02-18 a las 10:33 -0500, Chris Brennan escribió: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: By installing nvidia driver, nuvó should not be loaded. the non-free nvidia driver script/installer dies, complaining that nouveau is present and needs to be removed

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:40:40 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: 2011/2/18 Camaleón By installing nvidia driver, nuvó should not be loaded. Also, by disabling KMS (nouveau.modeset=0) nuvó should not load. At least in Debian Lenny and Fedora 12 it was not so simple as said in debian wiki or by you;

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 02/18/2011 07:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: By installing nvidia driver, nuvó should not be loaded. Also, by disabling KMS (nouveau.modeset=0) nuvó should not load. Greetings, wow, I just looked at my new Squeeze xorg.conf device section. What is the nouveau, and should we be using/not using

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:05:16 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 02/18/2011 07:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: By installing nvidia driver, nuvó should not be loaded. Also, by disabling KMS (nouveau.modeset=0) nuvó should not load. wow, I just looked at my new Squeeze xorg.conf device section.

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Paul Cartwright
Drivernvidia ^^ You are not using nuvó at all but the nvidia driver:-) right, I knew that. To make this a bit more clear, nvidia card owners can run either: a) KMS+nouveau so, what is this, why would I want it? b) nvidia propietary driver

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Pier Paolo
2011/2/18 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:40:40 +0100, Pier Paolo wrote: 2011/2/18 Camaleón By installing nvidia driver, nuvó should not be loaded. Also, by disabling KMS (nouveau.modeset=0) nuvó should not load. At least in Debian Lenny and Fedora 12 it was not

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:21:30 -0500 (EST), Chris Brennan wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.comwrote: Blacklisting a module only prevents udev from loading it. That's because when udev loads a module it uses the -b switch of the modprobe command.

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Dom
On 18/02/11 18:24, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:05:16 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 02/18/2011 07:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: By installing nvidia driver, nuvó should not be loaded. Also, by disabling KMS (nouveau.modeset=0) nuvó should not load. wow, I just looked at my new

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-02-18 20:22 +0100, Dom wrote: On 18/02/11 18:24, Camaleón wrote: To make this a bit more clear, nvidia card owners can run either: a) KMS+nouveau b) nvidia propietary driver c) vesa/fb d) nv (obsolete but still available, AFAICT) d) is the only option that worked for one of my

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:49:33 -0500 (EST), Paul Cartwright wrote: Camaleón wrote: You are not using nuvó at all but the nvidia driver:-) right, I knew that. To make this a bit more clear, nvidia card owners can run either: a) KMS+nouveau ... so, what is this, why would I want

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-17 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:07:51 -0500 (EST), Chris Brennan wrote: I am not new to the linux way of things but I am new to the debain way of things and I have some questions that need to be answered. To start, I need to ket rid of nouveau as it's screwing with uvesafb (produces an 'Error -22').

Re: Console resolution

2011-02-17 Thread Tim Clewlow
I am not new to the linux way of things but I am new to the debain way of things and I have some questions that need to be answered. To start, I need to ket rid of nouveau as it's screwing with uvesafb (produces an 'Error -22'). I added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but it's still

Re: Re: Re: console resolution

2010-02-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 09:17:51PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,24.Jan.10, 14:22:22, Nima Azarbayjany wrote: I was able to achieve the desired resolution of 1280x800 (equivalent to, I think, 0x361) by manually editing grub.cfg but the grub menu does not show correctly. It only fills

Re: Re: Re: console resolution

2010-02-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 01:50:23AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Looks like a bug in /usr/share/doc/grub2-splashimages/README where it says to run update-grub, that should be update-grub2. Arrrgh ... I see that: fischer:~# less /usr/sbin/update-grub2 #!/bin/sh -e exec update-grub Sorry about

Re: console resolution

2010-01-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,22.Jan.10, 15:38:55, Nima Azarbayjany wrote: Hi, I have recently installed Squeeze on my laptop and most things seem to work fine right now. I used to add vga=xxx to the kernel parameters line to adjust the console resolution but this is now deprecated as a message printed at the

Re: Re: Re: console resolution

2010-01-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,24.Jan.10, 14:22:22, Nima Azarbayjany wrote: I was able to achieve the desired resolution of 1280x800 (equivalent to, I think, 0x361) by manually editing grub.cfg but the grub menu does not show correctly. It only fills the left top quarter of the screen and parts of it cannot be seen.

Re: console resolution

2010-01-27 Thread Alex Samad
e5ylm-7ry...@gated-at.bofh.it e5zy9-cm...@gated-at.bofh.it e5axg-2q7...@gated-at.bofh.it e5eet-7l...@gated-at.bofh.it On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 06:11:38PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: [..] I don't know if my video card takes care of that, but I find that moving the cursor, scrolling, etc. is

Re: console resolution

2010-01-25 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
s. keeling wrote: Jeffrey Cao jcao.li...@gmail.com: On 2010-01-22, Nima Azarbayjany i.adore.deb...@gmail.com wrote: I have recently installed Squeeze on my laptop and most things seem to work fine right now. I used to add vga=xxx to the kernel parameters line to adjust the console

Re: console resolution

2010-01-25 Thread Nima Azarbayjany
Okay... I finally got it to work. I set two different resolutions, that is, I did not use gfxpayload=keep. Thanks all. Nima -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: console resolution

2010-01-25 Thread s. keeling
tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com: s. keeling wrote: Isn't it strange that we now need to `update-grub`, when having to run lilo was such a hardship before? Grumble, mumble, wtf doesn't OpenBSD ever show up in the grub* boot menu, grumble, mumble, ... Grr. Hi

Re: console resolution

2010-01-25 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:26:45PM EST, s. keeling wrote: [..] My complaint is neither grub-legacy nor grub2 ever pick up my OBSD install, yet /etc/grub.d/40_custom is there and describes it, and /boot/grub/menu.lst is there to upgrade from. Just be aware that auto-detecting kernels is not

Re: console resolution

2010-01-25 Thread Tom H
My complaint is neither grub-legacy nor grub2 ever pick up my OBSD install, yet /etc/grub.d/40_custom is there and describes it, and /boot/grub/menu.lst is there to upgrade from. From https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober/+bug/432254 I finally got the boot into FreeBSD to work.

Re: Re: Re: console resolution

2010-01-24 Thread Nima Azarbayjany
I was able to achieve the desired resolution of 1280x800 (equivalent to, I think, 0x361) by manually editing grub.cfg but the grub menu does not show correctly. It only fills the left top quarter of the screen and parts of it cannot be seen. The rest was fine (the boot up of linux I mean)

Re: Re: Re: console resolution

2010-01-24 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 05:52:22AM EST, Nima Azarbayjany wrote: I was able to achieve the desired resolution of 1280x800 (equivalent to, I think, 0x361) by manually editing grub.cfg but the grub menu does not show correctly. It only fills the left top quarter of the screen and parts of it

Re: console resolution

2010-01-24 Thread s. keeling
Jeffrey Cao jcao.li...@gmail.com: On 2010-01-22, Nima Azarbayjany i.adore.deb...@gmail.com wrote: I have recently installed Squeeze on my laptop and most things seem to work fine right now. I used to add vga=xxx to the kernel parameters line to adjust the console resolution but this

Re: console resolution

2010-01-23 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 01:15:39AM EST, Chris Jones wrote: [..] I the above question the bizarre joke, or was this meant as a reply to a different post? s/I the above/Is the above/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: console resolution

2010-01-23 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
Nima Azarbayjany wrote: set gfxpayload=keep will tell Grub2 to hand off the graphics settings to the kernel, which if configured properly will carry them forward. There are some other settings to tweak as well, insmod vbe and whatnot in the appropriate file, but that's about the gist of it.

Re: console resolution

2010-01-23 Thread Stephen Powell
On 2010-01-22 at 18:11:38 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: PIII 650MHz - 386M of RAM - ATI Rage Mobility (Mach64). That is *lightning fast* compared to my slowest machine, a PII 266 MHz with a very slow hard drive. And the saddest thing is, until about three years ago, it was my fastest machine! The

Re: Re: console resolution

2010-01-23 Thread Nima Azarbayjany
It's weird but it's not working for me. Somehow update-grub (as well as update-grub2, in case they are different) ignore all modifications to /etc/default/grub. I'm giving up. Should I report a bug? Hi, I use a slightly different way, I put: GRUB_GFXMODE=1440x900 640x480 in

Re: Re: console resolution

2010-01-23 Thread Tom H
It's weird but it's not working for me.  Somehow update-grub (as well as update-grub2, in case they are different) ignore all modifications to /etc/default/grub.  I'm giving up.  Should I report a bug? Are you making all the changes that have been suggested? In short: In /etc/default/grub

Re: console resolution

2010-01-23 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
tv.debian wrote: Hi, I use a slightly different way, I put: GRUB_GFXMODE=1440x900 640x480 in /etc/defaults/grub (native resolution first, fall-back one isn't necessary, it's the default). Then in /etc/grub.d/00_header I add gfxpayload=keep to this section (around line 80): [...] if

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Jeffrey Cao
On 2010-01-22, Nima Azarbayjany i.adore.deb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have recently installed Squeeze on my laptop and most things seem to work fine right now. I used to add vga=xxx to the kernel parameters line to adjust the console resolution but this is now deprecated as a message

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Nima Azarbayjany i.adore.deb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I have recently installed Squeeze on my laptop and most things seem to work fine right now. I used to add vga=xxx to the kernel parameters line to adjust the console resolution but this is now

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread green
Nima Azarbayjany wrote at 2010-01-22 06:08 -0600: I have recently installed Squeeze on my laptop and most things seem to work fine right now. I used to add vga=xxx to the kernel parameters line to adjust the console resolution but this is now deprecated as a message printed at the startup

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Stephen Powell
On 2010-01-22 at 08:26:27 -0500, Jeffrey Cao wrote: On 2010-01-22, Nima Azarbayjany i.adore.deb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have recently installed Squeeze on my laptop and most things seem to work fine right now. I used to add vga=xxx to the kernel parameters line to adjust the

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Stephen Powell
On 2010-01-22 at 09:00:54 -0500, Javier Barroso wrote: Seem like gfxpayload is the substitute, but now I can't find where is the doc (it doesn't appear in kernel-parameters.txt). The vga kernel option is a strange option. It's really more of a bootloader option than a kernel option. The

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.comwrote: On 2010-01-22 at 09:00:54 -0500, Javier Barroso wrote: Seem like gfxpayload is the substitute, but now I can't find where is the doc (it doesn't appear in kernel-parameters.txt). I'm really going out on a limb when

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Stephen Powell
On 2010-01-22 at 12:08:56 -0500, Arthur Machlas wrote: set gfxpayload=keep will tell Grub2 to hand off the graphics settings to the kernel, which if configured properly will carry them forward. There are some other settings to tweak as well, insmod vbe and whatnot in the appropriate file, but

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 13:08 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: snip Jeffrey Cao wrote in another post that grub2 can support the traditional vga kernel option by means of editing /etc/default/grub and adding the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=vga=xxx and then running update-grub to update

Re: Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Nima Azarbayjany
set gfxpayload=keep will tell Grub2 to hand off the graphics settings to the kernel, which if configured properly will carry them forward. There are some other settings to tweak as well, insmod vbe and whatnot in the appropriate file, but that's about the gist of it. The nice thing is it

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:08:23PM EST, Stephen Powell wrote: [..] So then this is designed to work with framebuffer graphics mode virtual consoles, right? That wouldn't help me. I prefer the traditional hardware text mode virtual consoles. Just curious, but what's wrong with using a

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Stephen Powell
On 2010-01-22 at 15:50:02 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:08:23PM EST, Stephen Powell wrote: So then this is designed to work with framebuffer graphics mode virtual consoles, right? That wouldn't help me. I prefer the traditional hardware text mode virtual consoles.

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 04:47:29PM EST, Stephen Powell wrote: I prefer a hardware text mode virtual console for a number of reasons, but one of them is that it performs better, particularly on the ancient under-powered hardware that I tend to use! PIII 650MHz - 386M of RAM - ATI Rage Mobility

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 06:11:38PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 04:47:29PM EST, Stephen Powell wrote: [snip] I don't know if my video card takes care of that, but I find that moving the cursor, scrolling, etc. is noticeably faster on a framebuffer console than on the

Re: console resolution

2010-01-22 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:39:50PM EST, Alex Samad wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 06:11:38PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: [..] I don't know if my video card takes care of that, but I find that moving the cursor, scrolling, etc. is noticeably faster on a framebuffer console than on the vga

Re: Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message)

1998-02-23 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Bill Leach wrote: William R. Ward wrote: [snip] I've never seen much point in svgatextmode, personally - you can get 80x50 from LILO, isn't that enough? The 80x50 LILO can give me, also gives me 8x8 pixel characters. Using SVGATextMode I have 116x51 using 16x9 pixel

Re: Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message)

1998-02-23 Thread Bill Leach
The 80x50 LILO can give me, also gives me 8x8 pixel characters. Using SVGATextMode I have 116x51 using 16x9 pixel characters. Readable characters are enough reason for me. I don't even remember what I am using in lilo but I am quite happy with it (bully for me). But if you haven't