Re: is this sensible?

2014-07-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-08 02:07:25 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 30 iun 14, 14:47:23, Vincent Lefevre wrote: A program cannot guess what the user has in mind, but there are choices that are obviously more sensible than others, such as upgrading a package instead of removing it. Sometimes aptitude

Re: is this sensible?

2014-07-08 Thread berenger . morel
Le 08.07.2014 01:12, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Lu, 30 iun 14, 12:35:37, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: One of the first things I do when using aptitude on a new computer is disabling the auto-repair feature What feature would that be? The name is not the correct one, because I

Re: is this sensible?

2014-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 30 iun 14, 14:47:23, Vincent Lefevre wrote: A program cannot guess what the user has in mind, but there are choices that are obviously more sensible than others, such as upgrading a package instead of removing it. Sometimes aptitude wants to remove hundreds of packages, which is

Re: is this sensible?

2014-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 30 iun 14, 12:35:37, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: One of the first things I do when using aptitude on a new computer is disabling the auto-repair feature What feature would that be? and automatic installation of recommended packages. I do this only on really space

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.06.2014 00:25, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2014-06-25 14:26:03 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. I have learn a lot of things because I used

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 03:49:36 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2014-06-29 12:52:40 +0200, François Patte wrote: Le 29/06/2014 12:35, Brian a écrit : If that is what you really want to do you are not going about it in the right way.

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 03:33:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: What matters is also the list of NEW packages. Your mail was saying: The following NEW packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 libabw-0.0-0 libaudit-common libaudit1 libboost-date-time1.55.0

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-30 12:35:37 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I know that it probably needs more time than simply asking to softwares to guess what you want, but I am a programmer, and I know that a program can never guess what I have in mind, which solution I will prefer. Especially

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-30 13:15:36 +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 03:33:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: What matters is also the list of NEW packages. Your mail was saying: The following NEW packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 libabw-0.0-0

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 29/06/2014 00:15, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2014-06-27 11:38:50 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:07:40PM +0200, François Patte wrote: This what is writen as dependencies in packages... OK but I am wondering why gthumb

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread Brian
On Sun 29 Jun 2014 at 10:35:50 +0200, François Patte wrote: BTW I tried to prevent to install systemd, putting #Package: systemd #Pin: release * #Pin-Priority: -1 in /etc/apt/preferences and tried to install gthumb after that. The answer came immediately: impossible because of broken

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 29/06/2014 12:35, Brian a écrit : On Sun 29 Jun 2014 at 10:35:50 +0200, François Patte wrote: BTW I tried to prevent to install systemd, putting #Package: systemd #Pin: release * #Pin-Priority: -1 in /etc/apt/preferences and tried to

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-29 10:35:50 +0200, François Patte wrote: Looking back to my first mail, I can read: The following extra packages will be installed: ^^^ gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0 gthumb-data libabw-0.0-0

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-29 12:52:40 +0200, François Patte wrote: Le 29/06/2014 12:35, Brian a écrit : If that is what you really want to do you are not going about it in the right way. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg01042.html Not sure of what you mean here... Not sure either

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-27 11:38:50 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:07:40PM +0200, François Patte wrote: This what is writen as dependencies in packages... OK but I am wondering why gthumb (and its dependencies) needs to install systemd That sounds like a challenge :) gthumb

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-25 14:26:03 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. I have learn a lot of things because I used aptitude with it's ncurses interface. It features

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-27 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 14:11, Floris a écrit : Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:06:25 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:07:40PM +0200, François Patte wrote: Le 25/06/2014 14:11, Floris a écrit : Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:06:25 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: -BEGIN PGP

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.06.2014 03:06, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:17:47PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 26.06.2014 12:26, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. If it is non interactive, then how do you master it? -- If you're not careful,

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.06.2014 12:26, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. If it is non interactive, then

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:17:47PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 26.06.2014 12:26, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: apt-get install gthumb If you just want to update, why are you installing? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: apt-get install gthumb If you just want to

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Weaver
On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:57:04 François Patte wrote: Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: apt-get install gthumb If you

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Rob
On 25 June 2014 10:51:17 BST, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: What do yo mean by ...became ugly for an unknown reason...), how do you

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Floris
Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Floris
Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:06:25 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:51:17AM +0200, François Patte wrote: The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance, gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 (I don't want to compile anything...) These packages contain 'files common to all languages and libraries contained in the GNU

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread berenger . morel
Le 25.06.2014 11:51, François Patte a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 13:25, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 13:25, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 13:42:39 François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: What do yo mean by ...became ugly for an unknown reason...), how do you know it is the gthumb package causing it? here

Re: Window manager (sensible sessions solution)

2002-12-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, David, Are you sure what you posted is right way to activate WM Session? On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 06:18:09PM -0500, Mr. David Bersson wrote: I tried to post this once, but it didn't go through. Here's the command to add window managers to your sessions files. (Assuming you use gdm) cp

Re: Window manager (sensible sessions solution)

2002-12-03 Thread Mr. David Bersson
--- On Tue 12/03, Osamu Aoki < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:From: Osamu Aoki [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 18:47:26 -0800Subject: Re: Window manager (sensible sessions solution)Hi, David, Are you sure what you posted is

Re: Window manager (sensible sessions solution)

2002-12-03 Thread Mr. David Bersson
I tried to post this once, but it didn't go through. Here's the command to add window managers to your sessions files. (Assuming you use gdm) cp -a /usr/bin/wmaker /etc/gdm/Sessions/Windowmaker This copies your startup script into your Sessions files. You then need to give it permissions.