Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-19 Thread Mirko Parthey
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:39:29PM +, mick crane wrote: > Appears that to retain permissions need root at both ends of rsync. Not necessarily. If the server filesystem supports xattrs, you can use the --fake-super option with the rsync server, running as a non-root user that can write to the

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 05:06:33PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:24:43 +0100 > wrote: > > > Care to name some of those limitations? > > > > (of course, rsync /is not/ a backup program in itself, but lets you > > build one with 10-30 lines around it). > > Why build one

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:24:43 +0100 wrote: > Care to name some of those limitations? > > (of course, rsync /is not/ a backup program in itself, but lets you > build one with 10-30 lines around it). Why build one (which I have done) when you can get a perfectly good one from the Debian repos?

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-18 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-02-18 12:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 06:59:03PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: * 2021-02-18 11:13:25-0500, Gary Dale wrote: rsync is a quick & dirty backup tactic but it's got limitations. 1) files may stay around forever in the backup even if you've deleted them

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-18 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-02-18 10:57, mick crane wrote: On 2021-02-15 12:39, mick crane wrote: On 2021-02-13 19:20, David Christensen wrote: On 2021-02-13 01:27, mick crane wrote: I made a mistake and instead of getting a PC for backup I got a NAS. I'm struggling to get to grips with it. If rsync from PC to

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-18 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 07:21:01PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > In my opinion the point still stands, rsync (by itself) has significant > limitations as a backup program, which is probably also the reason why > several backup programs using rsync exist. Care to name some of those

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-18 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 06:59:03PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2021-02-18 11:13:25-0500, Gary Dale wrote: > > > rsync is a quick & dirty backup tactic but it's got limitations. > > > > 1) files may stay around forever in the backup even if you've deleted > > them from your main computer

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 18 feb 21, 18:59:03, Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2021-02-18 11:13:25-0500, Gary Dale wrote: > > > rsync is a quick & dirty backup tactic but it's got limitations. > > > > 1) files may stay around forever in the backup even if you've deleted > > them from your main computer because you don't

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-18 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2021-02-18 11:13:25-0500, Gary Dale wrote: > rsync is a quick & dirty backup tactic but it's got limitations. > > 1) files may stay around forever in the backup even if you've deleted > them from your main computer because you don't need them. > > 2) you only have one copy of a file and that

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-18 Thread mick crane
On 2021-02-18 16:13, Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-02-18 10:57, mick crane wrote: On 2021-02-15 12:39, mick crane wrote: On 2021-02-13 19:20, David Christensen wrote: On 2021-02-13 01:27, mick crane wrote: I made a mistake and instead of getting a PC for backup I got a NAS. I'm struggling to get

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-18 Thread mick crane
On 2021-02-15 12:39, mick crane wrote: On 2021-02-13 19:20, David Christensen wrote: On 2021-02-13 01:27, mick crane wrote: I made a mistake and instead of getting a PC for backup I got a NAS. I'm struggling to get to grips with it. If rsync from PC to NAS NAS changes the owner/group of files

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-15 Thread mick crane
On 2021-02-13 19:20, David Christensen wrote: On 2021-02-13 01:27, mick crane wrote: I made a mistake and instead of getting a PC for backup I got a NAS. I'm struggling to get to grips with it. If rsync from PC to NAS NAS changes the owner/group of files to me/users which is probably no good

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-13 Thread David Christensen
On 2021-02-13 01:27, mick crane wrote: I made a mistake and instead of getting a PC for backup I got a NAS. I'm struggling to get to grips with it. If rsync from PC to NAS NAS changes the owner/group of files to me/users which is probably no good for backing up. There's that problem then

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:27:54 + mick crane wrote: > I made a mistake and instead of getting a PC for backup I got a NAS. > I'm struggling to get to grips with it. > If rsync from PC to NAS NAS changes the owner/group of files to > me/users which is probably no good for backing up. Can you

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-13 Thread Toni Mas Soler
Is there an alternative if you want an incremental backup? Obviously you could use tar-ed archives with unprivileged permissions. If you did, you would get a huge network overhead. thks Toni Mas GPG 3F42A21D84D7E950 Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ En

Re: rsync to NAS for backup

2021-02-13 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, Disclaimer: I do not use and am not familiar with Sinology hardware and software and generally speaking, I am not knowledgeable in networking I would say that: - the owner:group names of a file on the PC you backup and the owner:group names of the backup files on the synology