Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-25 04:20:20 +1100]: Chrony is designed to work with intermittent connections. ntpd works well with intermittent connections too. No idea...chrony is a lot smarter than ntpdate though; it gradually moves your clock back and forth so that running apps don't

Re: chrony (was: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!)

2002-12-28 Thread John Hasler
Bill Moseley writes: I don't really understand how chrony maintains the hardware clock. I know chrony can deal with a slow or fast rtc, but it seems like a good idea to update the rtc to the real time every once in a while. I agree. File a wishlist bug so I don't forget and I'll send it

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: Any idea why it conflicts with ntpdate? Installing it remvoed ntpdate. ntp didn't conflict with ntpdate. Because chrony is a ntpdate replacement as well. ntpdate, thus, conflicts with chrony. -- .''`. Baloo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 06:46:50PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 10:32:43AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Shawn Lamson wrote: Maybe it's because the CD-R is so fast? Let's do the time warp again! This is why I installed rdate, I think it is b/c

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Rob Weir wrote: I'd say this is the sort of thing people mean when people say 'IDE sucks!'; the CPU has to babysit the burner through the entire process... It's hard for me to believe that can be the only problem. The clock falls behind almost a minute during a 4 minute

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread John Hasler
Bill Moseley writes: I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be periods of time when ntp can't connect to the remote hosts -- and that should not stop ntp. Chrony is designed to work with intermittent connections. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bill Moseley
On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: Bill Moseley writes: I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be periods of time when ntp can't connect to the remote hosts -- and that should not stop ntp. Chrony is designed to work with intermittent connections. Any idea why it conflicts

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread James Tappin
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:19:35 +1100 Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say this is the sort of thing people mean when people say 'IDE sucks!'; the CPU has to babysit the burner through the entire process... It's actually probably even more subtle. My experience has been that cdrdao causes

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: Bill Moseley writes: I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be periods of time when ntp can't connect to the remote hosts -- and that should not stop ntp. Chrony is

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bill Moseley
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: Bill Moseley writes: I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be periods of time when ntp can't connect to the remote hosts -- and that

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 09:44:23AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: Bill Moseley writes: I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 09:44:23AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: Bill Moseley writes: I just

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread John Hasler
Bill Moseley writes: Any idea why [Chrony] conflicts with ntpdate? I didn't think it was a good idea to have two programs yanking on the system clock at the same time. As far as I know chronyc lets you do everything that ntpdate does. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-22 Thread Shawn Lamson
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:46:34 -0800 (PST) Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had somene run: date; burn-cd.sh; date and burning the CD using cdrdao (48x drive -- about 4 minutes to burn a CD) caused the system clock to fall behind about *50* seconds. Maybe it's because the CD-R

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-22 Thread Bill Moseley
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Shawn Lamson wrote: date; burn-cd.sh; date and burning the CD using cdrdao (48x drive -- about 4 minutes to burn a CD) caused the system clock to fall behind about *50* seconds. Maybe it's because the CD-R is so fast? Let's do the time warp again! This is

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-22 Thread Adam Majer
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 10:32:43AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Shawn Lamson wrote: date; burn-cd.sh; date and burning the CD using cdrdao (48x drive -- about 4 minutes to burn a CD) caused the system clock to fall behind about *50* seconds. Maybe it's

Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-21 Thread Bill Moseley
I had somene run: date; burn-cd.sh; date and burning the CD using cdrdao (48x drive -- about 4 minutes to burn a CD) caused the system clock to fall behind about *50* seconds. Maybe it's because the CD-R is so fast? Let's do the time warp again! They are running testing with 2.4.18 and xfs