Re: The word 'should'.

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:06:02 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:54:07AM +, Ben Stones wrote: > > Folks, > > > > There are a lot of arguments going around in this e-mail chain and now > > people are just hurting other people's feelings.

Re: The word 'should'

an exerciser to the reader. *exercise

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El 22/11/15 a las 05:10, Lisi Reisz escribió: You personally really are in league with the Taliban. "We know what is right and the rest of you will do as you are told." The comparison is flawed. I am not forcing anyone to use free software. I try to convince with arguments. There are

Re: The word 'should'

El 22/11/15 a las 17:31, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI escribió: On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:03:47 -0600 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: You personally really are in league‪ what we can and cannot do. with the Taliban. "We know what is right and the rest of you will do as you are

Re: The word 'should'

On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:28:31 -0600 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > > You personally really are in league‪ what we can and cannot do. > > with the Taliban. "We know what is right and the rest of you will do as you > > are told." > The comparison is flawed. I am not

Re: The word 'should'.

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:54:07AM +, Ben Stones wrote: > Folks, > > There are a lot of arguments going around in this e-mail chain and now > people are just hurting other people's feelings. Arguments are pointless if > no one agrees with each other ... Au contraire, arguments are pointless

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Hello everyone, Is it possible if we can draw this e-mail chain to a close? Point scoring and constant bickering only encourages more of the same, and it is distressing to read. When we are angry, we often say and do things in the heat of the moment and this is often the cause of conflicts,

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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:03:47 -0600 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > >>> You personally really are in league‪ what we can and cannot do. > >>> with the Taliban. "We know what is right and the rest of you will do as > >>> you > >>> are told." > >> The comparison is

Re: The word 'should'

El 22/11/15 a las 16:55, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI escribió: On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:28:31 -0600 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: You personally really are in league‪ what we can and cannot do. with the Taliban. "We know what is right and the rest of you will do as you are

Re: The word 'should'

On Sunday 22 November 2015 03:43:36 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > We have to keep > insisting, like parents keep insisting on their misbehaving children, > because people and children are irresponsible and need to be told things > many times. That is precisely what I am talking about. The

Re: The word 'should'.

On Sunday 22 November 2015 04:10:01 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > Ignorant native English speakers seem to have too much trouble > comprehending that grammatical gender in general does not imply the sex > of the subject to which it is applied. In Spanish as in many other > languages, we routinely

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Folks, There are a lot of arguments going around in this e-mail chain and now people are just hurting other people's feelings. Arguments are pointless if no one agrees with each other and only serves to create unnecessary conflicts which no one wants. I have been hoping for the past 24

Re: The word 'should'

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:10:16AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 22 November 2015 03:43:36 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > > We have to keep > > insisting, like parents keep insisting on their misbehaving children, > > because people and children are irresponsible and need to be told things

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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:53:35 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > And you may not mind being called immoral. I do. Sticks and stones etc. I > never did buy that. This is true. I'm an extremely sensitive person in real life. My furious responses to provocation have probably made

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> That is precisely what I am talking about. The arrogance of it. You have no > right to insist on our doing anything. You personally really are in league > with the Taliban. He has the right to say or write anything he wants, pretty much. He indeed doesn't have a right to *force* you to do

Re: The word 'should'

On Sunday 22 November 2015 16:40:53 Stefan Monnier wrote: > Don't forget that we Free Software advocate are a tiny, mostly powerless > minority, so ranting against us because we tell you what we think you > should do ranks pretty high on the "ridiculous" metric. Granted - but I am not "ranting"

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Renaud writes: > No, because you are still trying to impose your own values on others. There is no attempt to impose anything. "You should do that" does not mean "You must do that or I will punish you". Do you find "You should recycle" offensive? How about "You should not injure others?" --

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ginal post, please), while the other side semantic content is: "You *must not* use the word 'should', otherwise..." (implying failure to comply means offender is ready to eat babies... or something worse). Who's the "Taliban"? Almost invariably whoever makes such a fuss abou

Re: The word 'should'.

Il 21/11/2015 18:15, moxalt ha scritto: On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:55:29 +0100, Mauro Condarelli wrote: Who's the "Taliban"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban I know, thanks. That was meant as a rhetoric question; alternately spelled as: "Who fits better the definition of

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insists* to > have others to change *their* behavior. > > The original comment boils down to a semantic: "IMHO it's wrong > to..." (reread the original post, please), while the other side semantic > content is: "You *must not* use the word 'should', otherwise...&quo

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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 00:47:08 +0100, Mauro Condarelli wrote: > Il 21/11/2015 23:45, Lisi Reisz ha scritto: > > On Saturday 21 November 2015 17:36:46 Mauro Condarelli wrote: > >> Unfortunately English is not my mother language, so my command of the > >> language is lacking (so

Re: The word 'should'.

El 21/11/15 a las 16:45, Lisi Reisz escribió: On Saturday 21 November 2015 17:36:46 Mauro Condarelli wrote: Unfortunately English is not my mother language, so my command of the language is lacking (so say the least), please bear with me. Which might limit your ability to comment on the finer

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Lisi writes: > I am tired of being lectured at and carpeted for using Debian. You needn't read anything you don't want to. Use your killfile and be happy. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: The word 'should'.

Il 21/11/2015 23:45, Lisi Reisz ha scritto: On Saturday 21 November 2015 17:36:46 Mauro Condarelli wrote: Unfortunately English is not my mother language, so my command of the language is lacking (so say the least), please bear with me. Which might limit your ability to comment on the finer

The word 'should'

El 21/11/15 a las 18:10, Lisi Reisz escribió: On Saturday 21 November 2015 23:34:44 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: When people is doing wrong, they ought to know that. If somebody isn't going to listen to moral principles, It is not up to this list to teach us all moral principles. We all have

Re: The word 'should'.

On Saturday 21 November 2015 17:36:46 Mauro Condarelli wrote: > Unfortunately English is not my mother language, so my command of the > language is lacking (so say the least), please bear with me. Which might limit your ability to comment on the finer nuances of the meaning of the language.

Re: The word 'should'. (was: Adobe Flash)

On Saturday 21 November 2015 04:44:26 moxalt wrote: > Even when I complied with this, you made it clear that it doesn't matter > what words I use anyway, because by having opinions and expressing them I > am doing something akin to the Inquisition. No, by imposing them on others etc. Lisi

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On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 06:20:23 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 07:44:26 +0300 > moxalt wrote: > > > Even when I complied with this, you made it clear that it doesn't matter > > what words I use anyway, because by having

Re: The word 'should'. (was: Adobe Flash)

On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 07:44:26 +0300 moxalt wrote: > Even when I complied with this, you made it clear that it doesn't matter what > words I use anyway, because by having opinions and expressing them I am doing > something akin to the Inquisition. Not at all; it is only when

Re: The word 'should'. (was: Adobe Flash)

f my vicious and triggering usage of the word 'should': > > > For those websites which still require Flash, IMHO it would be better if you > > found some way of downloading the video (preferably in an open format). > > > Here is the second: > > > IMHO it would