Re: Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

Hi Alle, thanks for sharing the solution! Sincerely Zoltán 2017-08-25 0:13 GMT+02:00 Alle Meije Wink : > Hi Zoltan, > > Thanks for all your suggestions > > I looked at the .xcfe logs but they did not mention the keyboard or mouse. > Also, xfce4-goodies was already installed

Re: Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

Hi Zoltan, Thanks for all your suggestions I looked at the .xcfe logs but they did not mention the keyboard or mouse. Also, xfce4-goodies was already installed Touching wood it seems the problem is fixed now. Following

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

On 22/08/17 15:11, Jape Person wrote: > You have been *very* helpful. You educated / reminded me on why even > testing for exploits isn't necessarily useful when the firmware is not > Open Source, and you told me about the existence of magnetic quick > release USB cables. Time to shop! > > And

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

On 23/08/17 10:32, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 22/08/17 22:05, Dominic Knight wrote: Meanwhile... some wireless keyboards and mice work very well in this modern age, I've used Logitechs M185 & K270 without a single issue on both Stretch and Buster. +1, currently using these as an MK270r set on

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

On 22/08/17 22:05, Dominic Knight wrote: Meanwhile... some wireless keyboards and mice work very well in this modern age, I've used Logitechs M185 & K270 without a single issue on both Stretch and Buster. +1, currently using these as an MK270r set on sid. I had some reception problems with

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

On 08/22/2017 06:01 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 08/22/2017 05:12 PM, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: On 22/08/17 15:11, Jape Person wrote: You have been *very* helpful. You educated / reminded me on why even testing for exploits isn't necessarily useful when the firmware is not Open Source, and you

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

On 08/22/2017 05:12 PM, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: On 22/08/17 15:11, Jape Person wrote: You have been *very* helpful. You educated / reminded me on why even testing for exploits isn't necessarily useful when the firmware is not Open Source, and you told me about the existence of magnetic

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

> From: marioxcc...@yandex.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On 22/08/17 10:22, Jape Person wrote: >> Hence, why I suspect that they are vulnerable. I bought these things >> because my wife trips over her cables 3 or 4 times a day, and wireless >> ones are just easier to deal with from a

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

On 22/08/17 13:01, Jape Person wrote: > There's no fix for my wife and the presence of cables. In this case, the > cables for keyboard and mouse run from the Intel NUC computer nestled in > a table beside her recliner to the keyboard on her lap and the mouse on > her arm rest. She has yanked the

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

On 08/22/2017 02:40 PM, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: On 22/08/17 13:01, Jape Person wrote: There's no fix for my wife and the presence of cables. In this case, the cables for keyboard and mouse run from the Intel NUC computer nestled in a table beside her recliner to the keyboard on her lap and

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

On 22/08/17 12:38, Nicolas George wrote: > Wrong, "pay a loan" and "pay a loan" are the same problem. "Pay a loan" > and "escape the police after robbing a bank" are two different problems, > for example. Wrong. Your ambiguous choice of words has hidden the difference. First it is “pay THE loan

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

On 22/08/17 12:33, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 5 fructidor, an CCXXV, Mario Castelán Castro a écrit : >> Wireless things do not solve the problem of having to cope with wires. >> They just replace this with the bigger problem of unauduitable firmware >> directly exposed to the attacker

Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

On 22/08/17 10:22, Jape Person wrote: > Hence, why I suspect that they are vulnerable. I bought these things > because my wife trips over her cables 3 or 4 times a day, and wireless > ones are just easier to deal with from a workstation logistics standpoint. Wireless things do not solve the

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

or apt-get install xfce4-goodies 2017-08-22 18:11 GMT+02:00 Zoltán Herman : > Hi Alle, > > I found this on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xfce( but analog can > be here as well.. look at ) > or > > look into the xfce4-session-verbose-log file, there is something

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

Le quintidi 5 fructidor, an CCXXV, Mario Castelán Castro a écrit : > Wrong. Your ambiguous choice of words has hidden the difference. That was YOUR own choice of words, showing how this discussion is pointless. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

On 08/22/2017 01:17 PM, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: On 22/08/17 10:22, Jape Person wrote: Hence, why I suspect that they are vulnerable. I bought these things because my wife trips over her cables 3 or 4 times a day, and wireless ones are just easier to deal with from a workstation logistics

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

Le quintidi 5 fructidor, an CCXXV, Mario Castelán Castro a écrit : > Just as the problem of having to pay a loan is “solved” by requesting a > new loan to pay the old loan. Wrong, "pay a loan" and "pay a loan" are the same problem. "Pay a loan" and "escape the police after robbing a bank" are two

Re: Wireless devices and cryptography in practice (Was: USB wireless keyboard in stretch)

Le quintidi 5 fructidor, an CCXXV, Mario Castelán Castro a écrit : > Wireless things do not solve the problem of having to cope with wires. > They just replace this with the bigger problem of unauduitable firmware > directly exposed to the attacker (via radio or sometimes infrared >

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

Hi Alle, I found this on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xfce( but analog can be here as well.. look at ) or look into the xfce4-session-verbose-log file, there is something wrong with in( error on mouse/keyboard) Greetings Zoltán 2017-08-22 17:22 GMT+02:00 Jape Person

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

On 22/08/17 04:11, Darac Marjal wrote: > Don't forget your TEMPEST-approved faraday cage (I mean, what's the wire > between the keyboard and the computer if not a nice aerial?) No. USB uses twisted pair, which is designed specifically to be a bad antenna. Also, the relatively low frequency of USB

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

On 21/08/17 23:02, Jape Person wrote: > The keyboard communications are encrypted, and both mouse and keyboard > are rechargeable. But I at least have to check with Cherry support to > learn whether or not my new toys are vulnerable. I suspect that they are. The problem is that even if the

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

On 08/22/2017 09:33 AM, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: On 21/08/17 23:02, Jape Person wrote: The keyboard communications are encrypted, and both mouse and keyboard are rechargeable. But I at least have to check with Cherry support to learn whether or not my new toys are vulnerable. I suspect that

RE: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

Zoltán Herman wrote: >> Check the contents of grub conf, >> what is the difference to the recovery case!? Hi, thanks for your reply (the first helpful one) If I go to recovery mode, I can type to go to maintenance. But even then if I continue booting (using ctrl-d) the XFCE

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

Check the contents of grub conf, what is the difference to the recovery case!?

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:05:34AM +0100, Dominic Knight wrote: > On Mon, 2017-08-21 at 21:46 -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: [...] > > Very simple: Use a wired keyboard. > And all those heavy metals inside that plastic case - please revert to

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

On Mon, 2017-08-21 at 21:46 -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 21/08/17 17:09, Alle Meije Wink wrote: > > Does anyone understand the cause of this problem > > *The USB wireless keyboard IS itself a problem*. You are > unnecessarily > contaminating the environment consuming Voltaic cells

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 09:46:30PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: On 21/08/17 17:09, Alle Meije Wink wrote: Does anyone understand the cause of this problem *The USB wireless keyboard IS itself a problem*. You are unnecessarily contaminating the environment consuming Voltaic cells where

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

On 21/08/17 17:09, Alle Meije Wink wrote: > Does anyone understand the cause of this problem *The USB wireless keyboard IS itself a problem*. You are unnecessarily contaminating the environment consuming Voltaic cells where none is needed (obviously wired keyboards feed through the cable) and

Re: USB wireless keyboard in stretch

On 08/21/2017 10:46 PM, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: On 21/08/17 17:09, Alle Meije Wink wrote: Does anyone understand the cause of this problem *The USB wireless keyboard IS itself a problem*. You are unnecessarily contaminating the environment consuming Voltaic cells where none is needed

USB wireless keyboard in stretch

After upgrading from Jessie to Stretch, my wireless Logitech keyboard (with USB bluetooth receiver) has stopped working in a normal login. First it did not even work in the grub menu, but after a session with a normal USB keyboard the wireless one is picked up there again. And then in recovery