Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

> > Wow! I said "bad things" about Ubuntu regarding this topic but, just > > today, experienced the same kind of thing, with Debian Stretch, regarding > > the vlc "uber Package". Seems it's replacing libvlccore8 with > libvlccore9, > > along with several other replacements! So Debian also uses

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Sun 03 Jun 2018 at 20:05:39 (-0400), Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:02 PM, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > > > >> > >> >dist-upgrade > >> >dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of > >> upgrade, also intelligently > >> >

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:02 PM, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > >> >> >dist-upgrade >> >dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of >> upgrade, also intelligently >> >handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; >> apt-get has a "smart"

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 02:08:59 PM Pétùr wrote: > I don't use aptitude. I use only apt and apt-get but I believe apt is > just a shortcut for apt-get. `apt update` is equivalent for me to > `apt-get update` and `apt dist-upgrade` to `apt-get dist-upgrade` > (correct me if I am wrong). *

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Wed, 30 May 2018 18:53:54 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 May 2018 at 00:31:25 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:39:28 +0100 Brian said: > > > > > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new > > > packages to be installed if they are required to

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On 2018-05-30, Brian wrote: > > I'm at a loss to understand the argument here. 'apt update/upgrade' > also provides information that the user can act on. If a package on > your system acquires a new dependency X, 'apt-get upgrade' will not > upgrade it (is that really an upgrade? :) ) but apt

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Wed 30 May 2018 at 10:37:32 -0400, John Cunningham wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:37 PM Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 15:52:12 -0400, John Cunningham wrote: > > > > > Not necessarily. Sometimes the dependencies get out of hand, like when a > > > big project adopts a small

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Wed 30 May 2018 at 00:31:25 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:39:28 +0100 Brian said: > > > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new packages > > to be installed if they are required to satisfy dependencies. apt's > > designed behaviour looks more

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Wed 30 May 2018 at 08:59:31 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 08:39:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new packages > > to be installed if they are required to satisfy dependencies. apt's > > designed

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:37 PM Brian wrote: > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 15:52:12 -0400, John Cunningham wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM Brian wrote: > > > > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 08:39:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new packages > to be installed if they are required to satisfy dependencies. apt's > designed behaviour looks more sensible than

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Wed 30 May 2018 at 00:31:25 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:39:28 +0100 Brian said: > > > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new packages > > to be installed if they are required to satisfy dependencies. apt's > > designed behaviour looks more

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Tue 29 May 2018 at 22:37:08 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 15:52:12 -0400, John Cunningham wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM Brian wrote: > > > > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Tue 29 May 2018 at 15:52:12 -0400, John Cunningham wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David Wright said: > > > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300),

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM Brian wrote: > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David Wright said: > > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Tue 29 May 2018 at 21:57:31 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David Wright said: > > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg Wooledge said: > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Tue, 29 May 2018 13:18:16 -0500 David Wright said: > On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg Wooledge said: > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > --✁ > > > > I never use

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Tue 29 May 2018 at 18:38:40 (+0300), Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg Wooledge said: > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > > apt or apt-get upgrade does upgrade in passive mode: It never install new > > > packages,

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:14:12 -0400 Greg Wooledge said: > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > apt or apt-get upgrade does upgrade in passive mode: It never install new > > packages, never removes existing ones. Just upgrades existing ones as far as > >

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:31:14PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > apt or apt-get upgrade does upgrade in passive mode: It never install new > packages, never removes existing ones. Just upgrades existing ones as far as > possible. That's incorrect. One of the differences between apt and

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Sat 26 May 2018 at 15:45:02 (-0400), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 5/26/18, Pétùr wrote: > > Le 25/05/2018 à 21:33, Joe a écrit : > >>> Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit : > Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"? > >>> Thanks, I didn't know this new

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On 5/26/18, Pétùr wrote: > Le 25/05/2018 à 21:33, Joe a écrit : >>> Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit : Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"? >>> Thanks, I didn't know this new "full-upgrade" command. >>> >>> Is "apt full-upgrade" equivalent to "apt-get

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Sat, 26 May 2018 20:08:59 +0200 Pétùr said: > I don't use aptitude. I use only apt and apt-get but I believe apt is > just a shortcut for apt-get. `apt update` is equivalent for me to > `apt-get update` and `apt dist-upgrade` to `apt-get dist-upgrade` > (correct me if I am wrong). > > My

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

Le 25/05/2018 à 21:33, Joe a écrit : >> Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit : >>> Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"? >> Thanks, I didn't know this new "full-upgrade" command. >> >> Is "apt full-upgrade" equivalent to "apt-get dist-upgrade" (or apt >> dist-upgrade)? > More or

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Pétùr wrote: > > > >dist-upgrade > >dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of > upgrade, also intelligently > >handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; > apt-get has a

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Fri, 25 May 2018 20:17:52 +0200 Pétùr wrote: > Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit : > > Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"? > > Thanks, I didn't know this new "full-upgrade" command. > > Is "apt full-upgrade" equivalent to "apt-get dist-upgrade" (or

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

Le 19/05/2018 à 21:03, Hans a écrit : > Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"? Thanks, I didn't know this new "full-upgrade" command. Is "apt full-upgrade" equivalent to "apt-get dist-upgrade" (or apt dist-upgrade)? According to the man pages (man apt and man apt-get), dist-upgrade

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

On Sat, 19 May 2018 21:27:42 +0300 Abdullah Ramazanoğlu said: > On Sat, 19 May 2018 10:37:08 -0400 Matthew Dyer said: >> root@matt-the-cat:/home/matthew# apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade >> Hit:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security testing/updates InRelease >> Hit:2

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

Matthew Dyer wrote: ... these things come to mind: - perhaps you have automatic upgrades set up on Gnome? there should be some record in /var/log/apt or /var/log/dpkg.log of what is being updated. - if you have a fast enough connection it doesn't hurt to make sure /var/lib/apt/lists

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

Am Samstag, 19. Mai 2018, 20:26:25 CEST schrieb songbird: Isn't it today "apt update" and "apt full-upgrade"? It is also possible, to use "aptitude" (aptitude update && aptittude dist- upgrade) but be warned: aptitude for upgrading from one release to another is no good choice. However,

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

Matthew Dyer wrote: > Mornning all, > > > A few days ago I reported a  problem whare the gnome testing system > which I am now using to write this message.  Here is the resault. > > > I did a clean install of the system using the alfa testing image.  I > then edited the sources list and changed

Update on my update problem with gnome system.

Mornning all, A few days ago I reported a  problem whare the gnome testing system which I am now using to write this message.  Here is the resault. I did a clean install of the system using the alfa testing image.  I then edited the sources list and changed the lines from buster to