> Interesting. I have memtest86+ 6.10-4, for amd64, on the machine.
Then AFAIK it is not a known problem (IOW, it should work).
> Maybe I'll try a USB stick version.
IIRC the memtest86+ Debian package comes with .iso files which you can
(manually) put into /boot/images/ and which boot in a
On Sat, 02 Dec 2023 11:58:11 -0500
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Note: Memtest86 does not appear to work. I believe that is a known
> > problem with UEFI machines.
>
> AFAIK the current memtest86+ (not to be confused with memtest86, which
> is proprietary) claims to work fine on UEFI.
> IIUC the
> For the curious, I occasionally need to run Microchip MPLAB, the old
> pre-Java version which doesn't do Linux. It only just about does
> Windows... I used to think Serif software was buggy until I tried
> Microchip stuff.
Setting it up might take some work (especially if you need it to have
> Note: Memtest86 does not appear to work. I believe that is a known
> problem with UEFI machines.
AFAIK the current memtest86+ (not to be confused with memtest86, which
is proprietary) claims to work fine on UEFI.
IIUC the one in oldstable doesn't OTOH.
Stefan
On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 13:27:59 +0100
Arno Lehmann wrote:
>
> ... have you ever tried
>
> bcdedit /bootsequence
>
> In general, the built-in help of bcdedit is not bad, needs a bit of
> patience, though.
>
> And of course we lack the flexibility of tools such as awk or sed on
> Windows, to
Bit of a digression here, probably better not to pursue *this* on the
mailing list, but...
Am 30.11.2023 um 12:52 schrieb Joe:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:34:30 -0500
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
As I understand things, a well functioning UEFI system does not need
to use GRUB. The entries for Linux
On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:34:30 -0500
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> As I understand things, a well functioning UEFI system does not need
> to use GRUB. The entries for Linux and Windows will be in the UEFI
> boot menu, and you can boot directly using EFI variables.
>
It's the 'well functioning'
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 6:17 PM Charles Curley
wrote:
>
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:57:28 -0700
> Charles Curley wrote:
>
> > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> > router/gateway computer.
>
>
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:57:28 -0700
Charles Curley wrote:
> My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> router/gateway computer.
Thank you all for much useful advice. I ended up with an ACEMAGIC T8
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 15:56 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> The FriendlyPC version run a vendor version of Debian with some packages
> especially compiled for the device such as ffmpeg and graphics drivers
>
> Armbian is usually a bit slower in releases and produces a more
> canonical Debian
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 10:49 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >
>
> > I'm currently running a Globalscale SheevaPlug and a DreamPlugs but
> > Debian support for the old ARM architecture is likely to end soon.
> > (Dropping it seems to come up each release, but so far they're
> > still
> > releasing
On 16.11.23 16:49, Stefan Monnier wrote:
My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for
Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian.
Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run the vendor kernel,
>> My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
>> exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for
>> Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian.
>
> Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run the vendor kernel,
> plus possibly other custom bits,
On 16/11/23 15:40, Tixy wrote:
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:04 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for
Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian.
Are these the usual SBC
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:04 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
> exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for
> Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian.
Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run
On 16/11/23 10:15, Charles Curley wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:04:55 +0800
jeremy ardley wrote:
My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options
for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. They can
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:04:55 +0800
jeremy ardley wrote:
> My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an
> exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options
> for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. They can provide a
> network storage service as well
On 14/11/23 08:42, Dan Ritter wrote:
I bought one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Firewall-Appliance-HUNSN-Barebone-Storage/dp/B0B53MKZBX/
(4 x 2.5Gb NICs, N5105 CPU) -- I paid about $250 including 16GB RAM
and a 500GB SSD. Works very nicely. For about $70 less you can get
them with 2x
On 11/15/23 18:37, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
On 16.11.2023 03:46, Charles Curley wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
16 years is a good amount of value. :)
Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard?
Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode
On 16.11.2023 03:46, Charles Curley wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
16 years is a good amount of value. :)
Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard?
Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode SBC.
https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=c256a73072
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
> 16 years is a good amount of value. :)
> Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard?
Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode SBC.
https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=c256a73072
I did buy a spare hard drive for each,
On 15.11.2023 18:47, Charles Curley wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:31:52 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote:
[...]
[...]
I wrote that email as a word of caution, because Roberto had
mentioned he is looking for the device with the same conditions
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:31:52 +0500
"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote:
> On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> [...]
> [...]
> I wrote that email as a word of caution, because Roberto had
> mentioned he is looking for the device with the same conditions as
> OP, which is "no fans".
>
On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote:
This looks too good to be true and raises many red flags.
According to Intel specs [1] for this processor it's 28W of heat to
dissipate and that is Base Power only, Turbo Boost is whooping 64W(!).
IMO it is impossible to do with fan-less design at
> This looks too good to be true and raises many red flags.
> According to Intel specs [1] for this processor it's 28W of heat to
> dissipate and that is Base Power only, Turbo Boost is whooping 64W(!).
> IMO it is impossible to do with fan-less design at this small size, so there
> will be at
> moment, this is my leading candidate:
> https://www.newegg.com/neosmay-kc12-alder-lake/p/2SW-006Y-00074
>
> In my case, I also use my router as a backup server, so I wanted dual
> storage. If you can get by without that, then this much cheaper
> machine might work for you:
> https:/
On 14.11.23 10:45, Anssi Saari wrote:
Charles Curley writes:
My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
router/gateway computer.
I built a router with an APUD4D board and case from
pcengines.ch.
Charles Curley writes:
> My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> router/gateway computer.
I built a router with an APUD4D board and case from
pcengines.ch. They're going out of production but are
On 14.11.2023 04:08, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
router/gateway computer.
It should run Debian.
Charles Curley wrote:
> It should run Debian.
>
> It should either have two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or
> have suitable expansion capability.
>
> It should be quiet: no fans, and low power requirements. A small
> physical footprint would be nice.
>
> Most of the time it will run
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 5:58 PM Charles Curley
wrote:
>
> My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
> Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
> router/gateway computer.
>
> It should run Debian.
>
> It should either have two gigabit (or better)
ce, although the FIT-PCs do fine with IDE
> spinning rust.
>
I am in the process of solving almost the exact same problem. At the
moment, this is my leading candidate:
https://www.newegg.com/neosmay-kc12-alder-lake/p/2SW-006Y-00074
In my case, I also use my router as a backup server, so
On 14/11/23 06:57, Charles Curley wrote:
My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
router/gateway computer. It should run Debian. It should either have
two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or
My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386
Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a
router/gateway computer.
It should run Debian.
It should either have two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or
have suitable expansion capability.
It
On Fri 02 Jul 2021 at 11:09:58 +0100, Brian wrote:
> Indeed. Apologies, Felix.
Having said that, perhaps installing in the same way as two other
users have idicaated would allow you to make a useful contriburion
without having to rely on memory.
--
Brian.
On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 16:24:12 +0100, Brian wrote:
[..]
> on the system. So...a D-I bug?
Quite possibly, but my involvement with it ends here. Others can
pursue it in a suitable report.
Note that the installation with "recommends=false" still sets up
the system not to install recommended
On Fri 02 Jul 2021 at 04:55:04 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 07/01/2021 04:52 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 16:34:46 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> >
> > > Brian composed on 2021-07-01 21:05 (UTC+0100):
> > >
> > > > On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 12:40:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> > >
On 07/01/2021 04:52 PM, Brian wrote:
On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 16:34:46 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
Brian composed on 2021-07-01 21:05 (UTC+0100):
On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 12:40:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 16:34:46 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Brian composed on 2021-07-01 21:05 (UTC+0100):
>
> > On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 12:40:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>
>
> >> Dunno what to tell you. Maybe
Brian composed on 2021-07-01 21:05 (UTC+0100):
> On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 12:40:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>> Dunno what to tell you. Maybe that's because I always include also
>> tasks=standard
>
On 07/01/2021 11:40 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-07-01 08:00 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote:
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-06-30 08:43 (UTC-0500):
I don't recall just when I
did it but I had tried including "install-recommends=false" somewhere in
the command
On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 12:40:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Richard Owlett composed on 2021-07-01 08:00 (UTC-0500):
>
> > Felix Miata wrote:
>
> >> Richard Owlett composed on 2021-06-30 08:43 (UTC-0500):
>
> >>> I don't recall just when I
> >>> did it but I had tried including
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-07-01 08:00 (UTC-0500):
> Felix Miata wrote:
>> Richard Owlett composed on 2021-06-30 08:43 (UTC-0500):
>>> I don't recall just when I
>>> did it but I had tried including "install-recommends=false" somewhere in
>>> the command line. It failed.
On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 08:00:25 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/30/2021 01:39 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Richard Owlett composed on 2021-06-30 08:43 (UTC-0500):
> >
> > > I don't recall just when I
> > > did it but I had tried including "install-recommends=false" somewhere in
> > > the
On 06/30/2021 01:39 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-06-30 08:43 (UTC-0500):
I don't recall just when I
did it but I had tried including "install-recommends=false" somewhere in
the command line. It failed.
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> >
> > There are a bunch of loonies out there who don't like other
> > people based on gender, sex, skin color, religion, geography, or
> > merely the fact that their computer is unsecured.
> >
>
> Thanks, I didn't know the word loonies applied to
Hi,
> If I'm asking for help, I don't want to hear "try this, it's
> dangerous" unless all other possibilities have been exhausted.
>
> If you want to start a thread "dangerous things to do to risk
> your data", that's fine.
Would you be stuck in something like YOU = ALL OTHER BEING ?
Can you
Hi,
>
>
> And there's most people on earth who don't give a minute thinking about
> this.
>
> Ask any business manager, he doesn't give much interest in his computer
> installation, as long one thing goes, what is it ? That the system
> permit core operation for the company and profit
Hi,
Note :
Sorry Andrei if this message may seem to be wrote directly to you
because in fact it's written to all the "you" around who may feel
concerned. You got a direct reply because I was replying to your
message. Again, this could be something not to be done.
On 2021-06-30 7:58 p.m., Andrei
On Mi, 30 iun 21, 11:44:42, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>
> Now here's what will amaze you...
> You can do the same with a computer.
> Take risk...
> Make your computer unusable...
Sure, it's a great learning experience.
> Type "alias cd=rm -rf"
In my opinion it's generally a bad
On Mi, 30 iun 21, 11:02:43, Thompson, Brian wrote:
>
> Is this mailing list usually used for philosophical debates, persuasion, and
> primitive name-calling? Genuinely curious so that I can unsub if it is.
It happens more or less every time during the freeze, as there are less
problems to
On Mi, 30 iun 21, 05:57:19, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> >
> > On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> >> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can only hope that one day someone
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 23:40:54 +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2021-06-30 18:56, Brian wrote:
>
> > > "f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis
> > > especially
> > > when unexpected
> > > Doesn't bother me but as you say is inappropriate on mailing list
> > > and I'm
> > >
On 2021-06-30 18:56, Brian wrote:
"f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis
especially
when unexpected
Doesn't bother me but as you say is inappropriate on mailing list and
I'm
sure it's a one-off.
It is inappropriate anywhere in public. You are not bothered by this?
riggered some memories. I don't recall just when I did
> it but I had tried including "install-recommends=false" somewhere in the
> command line. It failed. IIRC there's something hard-coded in part of the
> installer that ignores that directive just where I wanted it to hav
On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:33:37 -0400
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>
> There's a old saying that state :
> "Give someone a fish, feed him for the day, teach him how to fish,
> feed him for life".
>
> That must be something that doesn't apply anymore.
It never did. The second clause is
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 14:27:16 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
[...]
> There are a bunch of loonies...
A very nineteenth centrury word. This bunch of people have views that
are due to some mental illness? Maybe a touch of empathy would not go
unnoticed.
[...]
--
Brian.
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-06-30 08:43 (UTC-0500):
> I don't recall just when I
> did it but I had tried including "install-recommends=false" somewhere in
> the command line. It failed.
>
I start most
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > For people that I consider part of my community, I feel a higher
> > standard of care is in order.
> >
> Haven't you ever tried to think of computing as a "no risk involved"
> possibility ?
>
> If I accept that I may risk rendering the system
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 13:31:37 +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y
> > >
> > > That was the fucking point.
> >
> > Calm down.
Hi,
On 2021-06-30 11:59 a.m., Dan Ritter wrote:
> Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>> Now here's what will amaze you...
>> You can do the same with a computer.
>> Take risk...
>> Make your computer unusable...
>> Type "alias cd=rm -rf"
>> Open all the ports and get hacked.
>> Open all the
On 30 Jun 2021, at 10:44, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
Hi,
To summarize, there are basically two sane approaches to remote X
clients:
"Two sane approach" ?
Okay, there's only two approach YOU believe in.
That's it.
There's at least a dozen of way to install a X11 network
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Now here's what will amaze you...
> You can do the same with a computer.
> Take risk...
> Make your computer unusable...
> Type "alias cd=rm -rf"
> Open all the ports and get hacked.
> Open all the ports and not get hacked.
> Take risk and loose not much
Hi,
>
> To summarize, there are basically two sane approaches to remote X clients:
>
"Two sane approach" ?
Okay, there's only two approach YOU believe in.
That's it.
There's at least a dozen of way to install a X11 network system.
You don't have any a power to judge other than your own self.
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:07:24AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 04:35:13PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > BTW: the problematic thing is called "xhost +", not "xhost +x", which
> > won't work...
> >
> > tomas@trotzki:~$ xhost + x
> > xhost: bad hostname "x"
> >
>
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 04:35:13PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> BTW: the problematic thing is called "xhost +", not "xhost +x", which
> won't work...
>
> tomas@trotzki:~$ xhost + x
> xhost: bad hostname "x"
>
> ...unless there's a host in your network named "x" :-)
xhost was mentioned
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 09:16:37AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
[...]
> I didn't have in mind any type of murder or long lasting damage of any soft.
Still, it's a pretty violent metaphor, I think we can agree on that.
And perhaps somewhat off-tone for a mailing list with
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 09:33:37AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
[...]
> I was the stupid and dumb person who started talking about "the classic
> way" of authentication using X11.
Uh, whatever. I don't think you're stupid. I don't think *you* think
you're stupid. So I'm
ine. It failed. IIRC there's something hard-coded in part
of the installer that ignores that directive just where I wanted it to
have effect. Without my local references, I don't have the details.
I don't remember your ever reporting doing that. Did you try it,
and what was the result? It
gt; A kick in the but.
> A slap in the face.
> A physical wake up call.
> ...
> Something that will shake you enough that you get the time to think.
> Something like...
> Hope you understand before you end up 6 month on a hospital bed so you
> can get your mind straight.
I guessed
Hi,
On 2021-06-30 5:59 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y
>>
>> That was the fucking point.
>
> Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart,
> but there's no need to
Hi,
On 2021-06-30 5:57 a.m., The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>
>>> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>>>
I can only hope that one day someone
On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
[...]
DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y
That was the fucking point.
Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart,
but there's no need to be so vitriolic and
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
[...]
> DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y
>
> That was the fucking point.
Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart,
but there's no need to be so vitriolic and borderline
insulting about it.
There are nicer
On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
>> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>>
>>> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a
>>> shovel in the face because
On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
>> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>>
>>> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a
>>> shovel in the face because
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 05:23:49AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> >>
> >> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a shovel in
> >>
Hi,
On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>>
>> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a shovel in
>> the face because you said something wrong. This will be a great day and
>> you'll get back what
On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>
> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a shovel in
> the face because you said something wrong. This will be a great day and
> you'll get back what you serve to others.
Seriously?
> This is a figure of
On Ma, 29 iun 21, 04:56:55, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>
> On 2021-06-28 11:13 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > (Avoid ANY proposed solution that talks about xhost. Seriously.)
> >
> Yes, solutions using xhost maybe a bit a pain in the ass but they are
> also some of the nice one
Hi my friend,
On 2021-06-29 4:58 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:46:48PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
> wrote:
>> I've read back the whole series of message and no one ever said anything
>> that is somewhat possible to be interpreted as
>> using xhost +x with
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:46:48PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> I've read back the whole series of message and no one ever said anything
> that is somewhat possible to be interpreted as
> using xhost +x with SSH -X
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/06/msg00900.html
Hi,
>> that's how you learned things back in the early 1990s, that's your right,
>> but I hope you will at least point out how INCREDIBLY INSECURE this is,
>
> I never said in no situation something like "use xhost +".
> The same way as I never said to unblock all the ports on your router or
> to
Hi,
On 2021-06-29 2:43 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y
>
> That was the fucking point.
WoW...
Take it *easy* there...
> Now, if you want to advocate that people should use xhost + because
I never talked about xhost myself.
And the only thing I said was that
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Em 29 de junho de 2021 15:58:49 BRT, "Andrew M.A. Cater"
escreveu:
>On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> > On 2021-06-29 1:27 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:33:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater
>wrote:
>> > >> ssh -Y is similar to
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On 2021-06-29 1:27 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:33:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > >> ssh -Y is similar to ssh -X but does some authentication - yuu don't have
> > >> to use xhost+ or
> On 2021-06-29 1:27 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:33:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >> ssh -Y is similar to ssh -X but does some authentication - yuu don't have
> >> to use xhost+ or similar.
> >
> > You don't use xhost with ssh -X, either. At least, not
Hi,
On 2021-06-29 1:27 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:33:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> ssh -Y is similar to ssh -X but does some authentication - yuu don't have
>> to use xhost+ or similar.
>
> You don't use xhost with ssh -X, either. At least, not explicitly.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:33:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> ssh -Y is similar to ssh -X but does some authentication - yuu don't have
> to use xhost+ or similar.
You don't use xhost with ssh -X, either. At least, not explicitly.
ssh takes care of that for you.
In fact, on Debian, ssh
; Also
> > https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/x-window-system/9780937175149/
> > <https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/x-window-system/9780937175149/>
> >
> >
> Just wanted to say thanks, I have many books on X11 but they are all
> paper and in my library. I only ha
t; https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/x-windows-system/9780937175835/
> <https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/x-windows-system/9780937175835/>
> Also
> https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/x-window-system/9780937175149/
> <https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/x-window-system/9780
>
>
>
> There's plenty of book you can find by searching on Google with the
> subject "X11 architecture" or something similar.
>
> There is a classic "Definitive Guides to the X Window System" series.
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/x-windows-system/9780937175835/
Also
Hi,
On 2021-06-28 11:13 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
> wrote:
>> On 2021-06-28 10:12 p.m., Rick Thomas wrote:
>>> I'd love to be able to do that! E.g. a headless machine with plenty of RAM
>>> and CPU power to run Mate,
On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> On 2021-06-28 10:12 p.m., Rick Thomas wrote:
> > I'd love to be able to do that! E.g. a headless machine with plenty of RAM
> > and CPU power to run Mate, but located in a locked building on the other
> > side of
Hi,
On 2021-06-28 10:12 p.m., Rick Thomas wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>>> X clients like MATE don't directly depend on an X server, because in
>>> theory, the X server could be on a different machine.
>
> I'd love to be able to do that! E.g. a headless machine
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> > X clients like MATE don't directly depend on an X server, because in
> > theory, the X server could be on a different machine.
I'd love to be able to do that! E.g. a headless machine with plenty of RAM and
CPU power to run Mate, but
On Sun 27 Jun 2021 at 08:33:58 -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> On 6/27/21 7:37 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 07:31:57AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> > > On 6/27/21 12:29 AM, Curt wrote:
> > > > On 2021-06-25, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > > > One paragraph of "Debian
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 08:33:58AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> On 6/27/21 7:37 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > You also need to install "xorg", which will bring in the X server and
> > various utilities to make it run, including startx (which is in the
> > xinit package, which is a direct
On 6/27/21 7:37 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 07:31:57AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On 6/27/21 12:29 AM, Curt wrote:
On 2021-06-25, Richard Owlett wrote:
One paragraph of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide"[1] causes me
grief. It is part of "6.3.5. Installing the Base
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 07:31:57AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> On 6/27/21 12:29 AM, Curt wrote:
> > On 2021-06-25, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > One paragraph of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide"[1] causes me
> > > grief. It is part of "6.3.5. Installing the Base System"[2].
> > >
> >
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