Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Jun 2015 at 13:55:29 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:41:03 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Ah. It's not the driver? It's the scheduler which is misbehaving, In what way? i might have lead you to believe that it was the driver, so my mistake.

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 13 June 2015 15:41:03 Brian wrote: On Sat 13 Jun 2015 at 11:26:42 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 10:06:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 June 2015 05:16:51 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Windows was no problem at all for the

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-13 Thread briand
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 20:10:58 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Thu 11 Jun 2015 at 21:16:51 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:57:26 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: Despite the occasional problem, I find Linux to be far superior to

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Jun 2015 at 11:26:42 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 10:06:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 June 2015 05:16:51 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Windows was no problem at all for the printer i have. Which version of Windows? Or are

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Jun 2015 at 11:21:26 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 20:10:58 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: 99.99% of users have no problem with a supported printer really ? i thought it was 99.93%. I receive your correction. Let's split the difference and

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-13 Thread briand
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 10:06:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 June 2015 05:16:51 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Windows was no problem at all for the printer i have. Which version of Windows? Or are you saying that your printer has drivers for all versions of

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Jun 2015 at 05:58:16 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:24:52PM +0200, notoneofmyseeds wrote: device for Canon-MX850-series: bjnp://10.0.0.8:8611 Is that all? It's sufficient. After the file is processed by cups-filters it is sent to the printer at 10.0.0.8

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-13 Thread briand
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:41:03 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 13 Jun 2015 at 11:26:42 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 10:06:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 12 June 2015 05:16:51 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Windows was no

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 12 June 2015 05:16:51 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Windows was no problem at all for the printer i have. Which version of Windows? Or are you saying that your printer has drivers for all versions of Windows? In my experience, you have to throw things away when the version of Windows

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-12 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-12 11:06 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: Which version of Windows? Or are you saying that your printer has drivers for all versions of Windows? In my experience, you have to throw things away when the version of Windows changes and there is no driver for that version. After you have

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Jun 2015 at 21:16:51 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:57:26 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: Despite the occasional problem, I find Linux to be far superior to Windows. While CUPS may send you looking for a driver sometimes, it's far worse

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:24:52PM +0200, notoneofmyseeds wrote: On 06/10/2015 03:35 PM, Brian wrote: Just to be clear on how you solved your problem: was it by installing the Debian cups-backend-bjnp package or by following the advice at the link given? So you already had the

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-11 Thread notoneofmyseeds
On 06/11/2015 07:05 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: yes - normally asking the list after giving it the old college try is a good thing. except when it comes to cups, then crying for help immediately gets a free pass in my opinion. i have had similar miserable experiences setting up cups and my

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-11 Thread Gary Dale
On 11/06/15 05:24 AM, notoneofmyseeds wrote: On 06/11/2015 07:05 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: yes - normally asking the list after giving it the old college try is a good thing. except when it comes to cups, then crying for help immediately gets a free pass in my opinion. i have had

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 10 Jun 2015 at 23:24:52 +0200, notoneofmyseeds wrote: On 06/10/2015 03:35 PM, Brian wrote: Just to be clear on how you solved your problem: was it by installing the Debian cups-backend-bjnp package or by following the advice at the link given? I used the directions on the link

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 10 Jun 2015 at 22:05:23 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:09:42 +0200 notoneofmyseeds notoneofmyse...@gmx.de wrote: On 06/10/2015 01:41 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Another illustration of this: Another effective [debugging] technique is to explain your

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-11 Thread Gary Dale
On 11/06/15 11:03 AM, notoneofmyseeds wrote: On 06/11/2015 04:57 PM, Gary Dale wrote: In fact the entire process is really just a bash script to take the picture, crop and rotate it, then send it to the print queue. A piece of cake compared to trying to do it in Windows. Hi Gary, With of

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-11 Thread briand
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:57:26 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: Despite the occasional problem, I find Linux to be far superior to Windows. While CUPS may send you looking for a driver sometimes, it's far worse for Windows where the manufacturers often don't produce updated

SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-10 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-09 8:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Have you used this printer with lpd before? Everything I find on Google says it only speaks a proprietary protocol called bjnp. Which should be covered by the cups-backend-bjnp package.

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-10 Thread Petter Adsen
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:27:12 +0200 notoneofmy notoneofmyse...@gmx.de wrote: On 15-06-09 8:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Have you used this printer with lpd before? Everything I find on Google says it only speaks a proprietary protocol called bjnp. Which should be covered by the

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-10 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-09 8:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Have you used this printer with lpd before? Everything I find on Google says it only speaks a proprietary protocol called bjnp. Which should be covered by the cups-backend-bjnp package.

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-10 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 12:16 +0200, notoneofmy wrote: And the hat's off to Sven Arvidsson for this really, truly, wonderful, no hassle find. Awesome. I just printed the test page in less than 5 minutes. When you consider I spent, between two days, about 8 hours; this is truly wonderful.

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-10 Thread Brian
On Wed 10 Jun 2015 at 12:27:12 +0200, notoneofmy wrote: On 15-06-09 8:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Have you used this printer with lpd before? Everything I find on Google says it only speaks a proprietary protocol called bjnp. Which should be covered by the cups-backend-bjnp package.

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-10 Thread notoneofmyseeds
On 06/10/2015 01:41 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Another illustration of this: Another effective [debugging] technique is to explain your code to someone else. This will often cause you to explain the bug to yourself. Sometimes it takes no more than a few sentences, followed by an embarrassed

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-10 Thread notoneofmyseeds
On 06/10/2015 12:51 PM, Petter Adsen wrote: Lists the Pixma MX850 support as Complete with All resolutions supported (up to 2400DPI). Flatbed, ADF simplex and Duplex supported. over both USB and Ethernet, with the pixma backend (see the sane-pixma manpage). So that should work out-of-the-box.:)

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-10 Thread notoneofmyseeds
On 06/10/2015 03:35 PM, Brian wrote: Just to be clear on how you solved your problem: was it by installing the Debian cups-backend-bjnp package or by following the advice at the link given? I used the directions on the link provided earlier in this thread. This link:

Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED

2015-06-10 Thread briand
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:09:42 +0200 notoneofmyseeds notoneofmyse...@gmx.de wrote: On 06/10/2015 01:41 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Another illustration of this: Another effective [debugging] technique is to explain your code to someone else. This will often cause you to explain the bug to

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 15:53 +0200, notoneofmy wrote: Hallo, I have spent hours on this, including the debian website. I have installed CUPS and have done apt-cache policy printer-driver all. I used localhost/631 to add the printer and I'm on Jessie with xfce. and so the uri for the

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150609_1553+0200, notoneofmy wrote: Hallo, I have spent hours on this, including the debian website. I have installed CUPS and have done apt-cache policy printer-driver all. I used localhost/631 to add the printer and I'm on Jessie with xfce. and so the uri for the wired canon

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/06/15 09:53 AM, notoneofmy wrote: Hallo, I have spent hours on this, including the debian website. I have installed CUPS and have done apt-cache policy printer-driver all. I used localhost/631 to add the printer and I'm on Jessie with xfce. and so the uri for the wired canon printer is

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-09 5:35 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: My system is working now, both sound and Cups. The best I can offer is the suspicion that installing task-Mate, brought in some packages that were necessary for both problems, but were not installed by using task-xfce alone. You're right, it's crazy;

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-09 4:29 PM, Gary Dale wrote: Purge the CUPS install (aptitude purge cups or apt-get purge cups) then do a fresh install and let it do its job. I will give this option a try, though I can't figure out how very different it is from what I've done; which is simply install CUPS and

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 19:21 +0200, notoneofmy wrote: On 15-06-09 4:05 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Is there anything in the cups logs? I think you can configure cups to make verbose logs. What's the make and model of the printer? Is lpd the only option or can you use ipp? I will check

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-09 4:05 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Is there anything in the cups logs? I think you can configure cups to make verbose logs. What's the make and model of the printer? Is lpd the only option or can you use ipp? I will check the logs. Canon 850mx I'm not sure if lpd is the only

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-09 8:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Have you used this printer with lpd before? Everything I find on Google says it only speaks a proprietary protocol called bjnp. Which should be covered by the cups-backend-bjnp package.

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/06/15 01:19 PM, notoneofmy wrote: On 15-06-09 4:29 PM, Gary Dale wrote: Purge the CUPS install (aptitude purge cups or apt-get purge cups) then do a fresh install and let it do its job. I will give this option a try, though I can't figure out how very different it is from what I've done;

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/06/15 02:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 19:21 +0200, notoneofmy wrote: On 15-06-09 4:05 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Is there anything in the cups logs? I think you can configure cups to make verbose logs. What's the make and model of the printer? Is lpd the only

Re: adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread deloptes
Gary Dale wrote: Good catch. While I've generally had no trouble with Canon printers on Linux, their drivers often come from unusual sources. I personally fail to see what competitive advantage Canon, Lexmark, etc. think they are getting from not opening up their printer protocols. Let

adding network printer

2015-06-09 Thread notoneofmy
Hallo, I have spent hours on this, including the debian website. I have installed CUPS and have done apt-cache policy printer-driver all. I used localhost/631 to add the printer and I'm on Jessie with xfce. and so the uri for the wired canon printer is lpd: // (ip)/queue I can ping the