Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 18:40:44, Michael Howard wrote: > > I don't think apt and dpkg are linked in this respect, they didn't used to > be. i.e. holding through apt had no affect on dpkg. More like apt didn't have any interface to set/clear holds. It seems to me like dpkg is the "keeper" of hold

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-04-19 19:11 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > The Wanderer wrote: > >> Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd tried >> that in the past, and had the result be ignored. > > No, it does work. Or at least it should, since you are holding the > package state, which is

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 18:27, The Wanderer wrote: On 2020-04-19 at 13:08, Michael Lange wrote: Hi, On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:57:12 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd tried that in the past, and had the result be ignored. not sure about that, man

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-04-19 at 13:08, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:57:12 -0400 The Wanderer > wrote: > >> Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd >> tried that in the past, and had the result be ignored. > > not sure about that, man apt-mark says > > "

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Sven Hartge
The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-04-19 at 12:46, Michael Howard wrote: >> On 19/04/2020 17:34, Michael Lange wrote: >>> But then, I noticed that sudo-ldap is not actually installed here, >>> and in fact it appears to conflict with sudo so apparently both >>> cannot coexist. >>> >>> So maybe the

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:57:12 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd tried > that in the past, and had the result be ignored. not sure about that, man apt-mark says " hold is used to mark a package as held back, which will prevent the

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-04-19 at 12:46, Michael Howard wrote: > On 19/04/2020 17:34, Michael Lange wrote: >> But then, I noticed that sudo-ldap is not actually installed here, >> and in fact it appears to conflict with sudo so apparently both >> cannot coexist. >> >> So maybe the basic problem here is that we

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 17:34, Michael Lange wrote: Hi, On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:25:18 +0200 Sven Hartge wrote: Michael Howard wrote: root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold sudo sudo-ldap sudo set on hold. sudo-ldap set on hold. root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold bash dash sudo sudo-ldap Still good, but

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:25:18 +0200 Sven Hartge wrote: > Michael Howard wrote: > > > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold sudo sudo-ldap > > sudo set on hold. > > sudo-ldap set on hold. > > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold > > bash > > dash > > sudo > > sudo-ldap > > > Still good, but

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael Howard wrote: > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold sudo sudo-ldap > sudo set on hold. > sudo-ldap set on hold. > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold > bash > dash > sudo > sudo-ldap > Still good, but then, > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold xterm > xterm set on hold. >

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 21:43:09 +0100 Michael Howard wrote: > On 18/04/2020 21:34, Michael Howard wrote: > > On 18/04/2020 21:02, Sven Hartge wrote: (...) > > Still good, but then, > > > > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold xterm > > xterm set on hold. > > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold >

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-18 Thread Michael Howard
On 18/04/2020 21:34, Michael Howard wrote: On 18/04/2020 21:02, Sven Hartge wrote: Michael Howard wrote: I've not used apt-mark much (or it's previous methods) so I'm a bit confused by what I'm seeing. If I use 'apt-mark hold ' and then 'apt-mark showhold' I get ' ' listed. If I then do

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-18 Thread Michael Howard
On 18/04/2020 21:02, Sven Hartge wrote: Michael Howard wrote: I've not used apt-mark much (or it's previous methods) so I'm a bit confused by what I'm seeing. If I use 'apt-mark hold ' and then 'apt-mark showhold' I get ' ' listed. If I then do 'apt-mark hold ' followed by 'apt-mark

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-18 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael Howard wrote: > I've not used apt-mark much (or it's previous methods) so I'm a bit > confused by what I'm seeing. > If I use 'apt-mark hold ' and then 'apt-mark > showhold' I get ' ' listed. > If I then do 'apt-mark hold ' followed by 'apt-mark showhold' > I get only '' listed.

apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-18 Thread Michael Howard
I've not used apt-mark much (or it's previous methods) so I'm a bit confused by what I'm seeing. If I use 'apt-mark hold ' and then 'apt-mark showhold' I get ' ' listed. If I then do 'apt-mark hold ' followed by 'apt-mark showhold' I get only '' listed. This can't be right, surely? Am I