Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;was:Domainnametouse on home networks

On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 8:35 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 08:18:45PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > On 11/1/23 19:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > The problem is, you haven't yet told us *whose* bugzilla-based bug > > > tracking system you're talking about. That makes it hard

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;was:Domainnametouse on home networks

On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 08:18:45PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 11/1/23 19:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The problem is, you haven't yet told us *whose* bugzilla-based bug > > tracking system you're talking about. That makes it hard for anyone > > to offer assistance. > > > I wasn't aware

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;was:Domainnametouse on home networks

On 11/1/23 19:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 07:20:27PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 11/1/23 17:08, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2023-10-31 10:26 (UTC-0400): I've requested pw resets, never got them, presumable because it sends the reset link to a 20 yo

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:Domainnametouse on home networks

Gene writes: > That is informative, thanks Felix, but what is wrong with publishing > the correct address? Correct address for what? You don't want bugzilla.org: that's the home page for the Bugzilla bug tracking program which whoever you are trying to contact uses. -- John Hasler

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:Domainnametouse on home networks

On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 07:20:27PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 11/1/23 17:08, Felix Miata wrote: > > gene heskett composed on 2023-10-31 10:26 (UTC-0400): > > > > > I've requested pw resets, never got them, presumable because it sends > > > the reset link to a 20 yo address. If you know

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:Domainnametouse on home networks

On 11/1/23 17:08, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2023-10-31 10:26 (UTC-0400): I've requested pw resets, never got them, presumable because it sends the reset link to a 20 yo address. If you know someone who has admin rights and could fix it, put it to me. Mail sent to

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domainnametouse on home networks

gene heskett composed on 2023-10-31 10:26 (UTC-0400): > I've requested pw resets, never got them, presumable because it sends > the reset link to a 20 yo address. If you know someone who has admin > rights and could fix it, put it to me. Mail sent to ad...@bugzilla.com > bounces. Bugzilla.com

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domainnametouse on home networks

Gene writes: > But bugzilla knows me by name and I am not me when coming from a new > ISP. So use a different name. > Mail sent to ad...@bugzilla.com bounces. bugzilla.com is a site about customized Volkswagen beetles. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nametouseon home networks

On 10/31/23 05:12, The Wanderer wrote: On 2023-10-30 at 23:11, Max Nikulin wrote: On 30/10/2023 00:00, gene heskett wrote: Somebody who /can/ report it. I changed ISP's over a decade back, so I am not me to bugzilla, and because I am known also by name, I can't re-register. I can't even get

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domainnametouse on home networks

On 10/30/23 23:12, Max Nikulin wrote: On 30/10/2023 00:00, gene heskett wrote: Somebody who /can/ report it. I changed ISP's over a decade back, so I am not me to bugzilla, and because I am known also by name, I can't re-register. I can't even get a pw reset cuz it (I'm guessing here) is

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nametouse on home networks

On 2023-10-30 at 23:11, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 30/10/2023 00:00, gene heskett wrote: > >> Somebody who /can/ report it. I changed ISP's over a decade back, >> so I am not me to bugzilla, and because I am known also by name, I >> can't re-register. I can't even get a pw reset cuz it (I'm

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nametouse on home networks

On 30/10/2023 00:00, gene heskett wrote: Somebody who /can/ report it. I changed ISP's over a decade back, so I am not me to bugzilla, and because I am known also by name, I can't re-register. I can't even get a pw reset cuz it (I'm guessing here) is sending it to my earlier ISP's Sorry, it

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nametouse on home networks

On 10/29/23 12:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 27/10/2023 23:03, gene heskett wrote: I suggest you file a bug against this command to among other things, clean up the language to refer to FQDN's or aliases which we are familiar with, "static, transient or pretty" as so called choices. If using

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nameto use on home networks

On 27/10/2023 23:03, gene heskett wrote: I suggest you file a bug against this command to among other things, clean up the language to refer to FQDN's or aliases which we are familiar with, "static, transient or pretty" as so called choices. If using new words for old, either define them so

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nameto use on home networks

On 10/27/23 10:19, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 27 Oct 2023 09:30 -0400, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): If you're a long form hostname person, then your hostname should be set to the FQDN of the system. You have confused me. I started to use Debian about 4 months ago because I no longer

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain name to use on home networks

On 27 Oct 2023 09:30 -0400, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): >> If you're a long form hostname person, then your hostname should be set >> to the FQDN of the system. > > You have confused me. I started to use Debian about 4 months ago > because I no longer want to build and update my custom

Re: set domain name in Debian `

On 15/11/2016 15:45, Brian wrote: On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 15:02:54 +, Joe wrote: That's fairly common, the exim4 default if enabled is to check that the HELO is resolvable at all, not that it matches anything specific. It's a few years since I last did it, but when I used telnet to talk

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On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 10:10:17 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 02:59:14PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 09:18:33 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Second choice: > > > System mail name: > > > eeg.ccf.org > > > > Eighth choice: > > > Keep number of

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On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 15:02:54 +, Joe wrote: > On 15/11/2016 14:10, Brian wrote: > >Exim wants to see a fqdn in the 127.0.1.1 line, written as specified in > >hosts(5): > > > > IP_address canonical_hostname [aliases...] > > > >The canonical_hostname is used for the HELO/EHLO. > > Default,

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On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 10:10:17 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 02:59:14PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 09:18:33 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Second choice: > > > System mail name: > > > eeg.ccf.org > > > > Eighth choice: > > > Keep number of

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On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 02:59:14PM +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 09:18:33 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Second choice: > > System mail name: > > eeg.ccf.org > > Eighth choice: > > Keep number of DNS-queries minimal? > > No > > You didn't use "yes"? Of course not. Why

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On 15/11/2016 14:10, Brian wrote: On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 08:00:31 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 04:29:35PM -0600, David Wright wrote: As your own hostname -f produces not dots, what approach do you use to shut exim up, or do you just ignore (or suppress) the message?

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On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 09:18:33 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 02:10:14PM +, Brian wrote: > > With 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' the message > > > > "Starting MTA:hostname --fqdn did not return a fully qualified name, > > dc_minimaldns will not work. Please fix your

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On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 02:10:14PM +, Brian wrote: > With 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' the message > > "Starting MTA:hostname --fqdn did not return a fully qualified name, > dc_minimaldns will not work. Please fix your /etc/hosts setup." > > should appear if "yes" is chosen for the

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On Tue 15 Nov 2016 at 08:00:31 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 04:29:35PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > As your own hostname -f produces not dots, what approach do you > > use to shut exim up, or do you just ignore (or suppress) the message? > > I have (control over) a

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On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 04:29:35PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > As your own hostname -f produces not dots, what approach do you > use to shut exim up, or do you just ignore (or suppress) the message? I have (control over) a bunch of computers, and they're not all configured the same. The

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On Mon 14 Nov 2016 at 08:27:06 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > [...] So when you do your "hostname -f" > (which I still contend is a rubbish command which serves no useful > purpose, but it's what you seem to want, so I'll roll with it), it > looks up "srv" in

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> On Nov 14, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 08:50:46AM -0700, Glenn English wrote: >>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:25 AM, Andy Smith wrote: >>> I am 95% confident that the reason that Glenn's system thinks the >>> FQDN is

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On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 08:50:46AM -0700, Glenn English wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:25 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > > I am 95% confident that the reason that Glenn's system thinks the > > FQDN is "www.slsware.dmz" is because the first instance of "srv" in > > the /etc/hosts

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> On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > wrote: > > But the whole thing really doesn't need any DNS servers *as long as* > everything you need is resolved statically by some module in > /etc/nsswitch.conf... such as the default "files" module, which reads

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> On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:17 AM, sunr...@mailbug.com wrote: > > > Hi Glenn, > > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 08:50:46 -0700 > Glenn English wrote: > > ... >>> 216.17.203.65 out.slsware.org oso >>> 216.17.203.66 srv.slsware.org sso > > This might be

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Hi Glenn, On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 08:50:46 -0700 Glenn English wrote: ... > >It never occurred to me that something might be looking at aliases; I thought >the IP >address was the important thing. And the srv...dmz entry is commented out >because I >thought it might somehow

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On Sat, 12 Nov 2016, Glenn English wrote: > Thanks all. It's been quite a ride. Now everybody write it down: it > has nothing to do with what's in /etc/hosts or /etc/resolv.conf. There > has to be a live, accessible DNS server for the domain somewhere. At > least at slsware.org there does. Maybe

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> On Nov 12, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > wrote: > > hostname -f does this: > > 1. Asks glibc for the hostname, using gethostname(). > > 2. Does an IP lookup on the hostname, using getaddrinfo() and the > hostname it got from gethostname(), and returns

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> On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:25 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > > The system thinks Glenn's domain name is "slsware.dmz". Glenn wants it > to be "slsware.org" (I think). Correct. > Glenn has set the host name to be "srv". Correct. > I am 95% confident that the reason that Glenn's

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On Fri, 11 Nov 2016, Glenn English wrote: > /proc/sys/domainname says "(none)". hostname -f gives the old domain /proc/sys/domainname is the kernel's idea of a domain name, which is only used by some network filesystems (kernel-based NFS, I think), AFAIK. Nothing else needs it. And if you set

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On Sat 12 Nov 2016 at 10:25:16 +, Andy Smith wrote: > Glenn has set the host name to be "srv". > > I am 95% confident that the reason that Glenn's system thinks the > FQDN is "www.slsware.dmz" is because the first instance of "srv" in > the /etc/hosts is: > > > > 192.168.2.203

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Hi, On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 02:00:11AM -0700, Glenn English wrote: > (Resend. Accidentally sent to a human instead of to the list...) I responded off-list to Glenn since that one arrived first and I wasn't sure if Glenn intended the contents of their /etc/hosts to be private. Later I saw this

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(Resend. Accidentally sent to a human instead of to the list...) > On Nov 11, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > Okay. So I think we should focus on why "hostname -f" returns the > wrong/outdated info. I'm not sure yet. > > Out of interest what does "hostname -d"

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Hi Glenn, On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:13:02PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > After you have done that, what command are you using which shows you > > the old/incorrect values? > > Mostly hostname - f. That's what I've used

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> On Nov 11, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > I normally put the short name in /etc/hostname and then the: > > > > in /etc/hosts. That works for me both for setting initial host name > and FQDN, and for changing it later. Yeah, that's what I hear, and

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Hi Glenn, On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 01:27:28PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: > I have to change the domain name of a Jessie server I'm working on. How do > you do it? (Aside from putting the FQDN in /etc/hostname, which kinda works.) I normally put the short name in /etc/hostname and then the:

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> On Nov 11, 2016, at 3:31 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 02:47:48PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: >>> On Nov 11, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> >>> So... what are you actually trying to do? Be very specific. >> >>

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> On Nov 11, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Joe wrote: > > I think we still do not have the terms of reference straight. > > First of all, it's a server. Who is it serving? People within the local > network only, people out on the Net, or both? Both. It's on the 'Net, but it's also

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On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 14:47:48 -0700 Glenn English wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Greg Wooledge > > wrote: > > > > So... what are you actually trying to do? Be very specific. > > Well, I'd like the domain name to be the same everywhere.

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 02:47:48PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > So... what are you actually trying to do? Be very specific. > > Well, I'd like the domain name to be the same everywhere. hostname -f hostname -f

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> On Nov 11, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > So... what are you actually trying to do? Be very specific. Well, I'd like the domain name to be the same everywhere. hostname -f and whois (that currently returns the ISP's info) and /etc/hosts and host and a

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 01:27:28PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: > This seems to be a common question -- it's all over the 'Net. > > I have to change the domain name of a Jessie server I'm working on. How do > you do it? (Aside from putting the FQDN in /etc/hostname, which kinda works.) That

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This seems to be a common question -- it's all over the 'Net. I have to change the domain name of a Jessie server I'm working on. How do you do it? (Aside from putting the FQDN in /etc/hostname, which kinda works.) I've seen several posts on the subject, all contradicting each other, and none

Re: domain name of debian

John L Fjellstad wrote: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John L Fjellstad wrote: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dnsdomainname is in /etc/resolv.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf search demo.room nameserver 192.168.9.4 nameserver 192.168.8.1 [EMAIL

Re: domain name of debian

John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John L Fjellstad wrote: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dnsdomainname is in /etc/resolv.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf search demo.room nameserver 192.168.9.4 nameserver 192.168.8.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hostname -f

Re: domain name of debian

OK--I have a dynamic DNS to my.domain.net, for example. Now the hostname ends up being computer.my.domain.net. If I want use email to users on this system, how do I set up exim4 and what would be the address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 24 August 2004 15:36, [EMAIL

Re: domain name of debian

David Baron wrote: OK--I have a dynamic DNS to my.domain.net, for example. Now the hostname ends up being computer.my.domain.net. If I want use email to users on this system, how do I set up exim4 and what would be the address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Depends. Don't tell

Re: domain name of debian

On Wednesday 25 August 2004 13:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, dom't all try it. Play with this if you must. host -t mx freddy.portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu host -t mx computer.my.domain.net yields: No such domain (Authoritive answer)! Well! host -t mx

Re: domain name of debian

David Baron wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2004 13:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, dom't all try it. Play with this if you must. host -t mx freddy.portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu host -t mx computer.my.domain.net yields: No such domain (Authoritive answer)! Well!

Re: domain name of debian

domainname will display it. domainname my.domain will set it. Question is, what does this mean. I would like email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be delivered to the user mailbox. If I do this with an exim4 mail command (I had routers set), this may work. If I send such email through outside

Re: domain name of debian

Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: NIS domain name may be in /etc/defaultdomain (to my surprise). More usually, it's in /etc/yp.conf It's _never_ in /etc/yp.conf - always in /etc/defaultdomain. The name is an inheritance from Sun, they invented NIS and on Solaris the NIS domainname is stored

Re: domain name of debian

Shu Hung (Koala) asked the simple question: where does the domain name of a debain stored? is there anyway to change it? The domain name of the local host is the part of its fully qualified domain name (FQDN) that follows the first dot. The FQDN of the local host is its canonical host name (if

Re: domain name of debian

John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dnsdomainname is in /etc/resolv.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf search demo.room nameserver 192.168.9.4 nameserver 192.168.8.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hostname -f Dolphin.demo.room [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I don't think so: [EMAIL

Re: domain name of debian

John L Fjellstad wrote: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dnsdomainname is in /etc/resolv.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf search demo.room nameserver 192.168.9.4 nameserver 192.168.8.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hostname -f Dolphin.demo.room [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I don't

domain name of debian

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 where does the domain name of a debain stored? is there anyway to change it? Try edit /etc/domainname or /etc/hostname depending on what you want to acheive Rus -- e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : t: 1-888-327-6330

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I want to modify the domainname part but there is no /etc/domainname Rus Foster ??: | On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote: | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | | where does the domain name of a debain stored? is there anyway to |

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Rus Foster wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 where does the domain name of a debain stored? is there anyway to change it? Try edit /etc/domainname or /etc/hostname depending on what you want to acheive Rus dnsdomainname is in

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where does the domain name of a debain stored? is there anyway to change it? I presume you mean DNS domain, not NIS domain. I think it is derived from looking up the name of the host, which is in /etc/hostname. E.g: my /etc/hostname contains 'dione'. my /etc/resolv.conf

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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rus Foster wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 where does the domain name of a debain stored? is there anyway to change it? Try edit /etc/domainname or