Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-23 Thread Larry Martell
On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 6:26 AM Curt wrote: > > On 2024-04-22, Reid wrote: > > > > I'm sorry I irked you so much Curt, but you don't have to be rude. > > I'm Curt. Let's be serious. You be Frank and I'll be Earnest.

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-23 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-22, Reid wrote: > > I'm sorry I irked you so much Curt, but you don't have to be rude. I'm Curt.

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 05:02:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? > >> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html > >> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? > > but perhaps without all the decepti

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? >> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html >> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? > but perhaps without all the deception crap, unless you really mean > to impugn the developers' motives. Yu

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Reid
ents - where were they - under the /firmware > directory? Thank you for the very helpful reply Andrew. I always use Debian's "Graphical Installer" option. I'm not sure what Calamares is, but will look into it. However, I will also re-word what I now believe to be the primary

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Reid
- Original message - From: Curt > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote: > >> How can you be taken seriously when you can't even wrap your lines >> according to our venerable guidelines? >> Get a popular setting going, buddy. >> >> And, though it's true I extolled Proust recently, being succinct

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 11:31:03AM -0700, Reid wrote: > Debian's policy change on non-free-firmware has made much of the Debian.org > website very misleading, and some Debian OS installers have become very > Free Software UNfriendly and deceptive. The following is my experience, >

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-22, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > I endure this on many other mailing lists unrelated to Debian, > particularly from groups.io that have a Web interface. It's a violation of Debian mailing list posting rules, guidelines, and tips. It irks me that in certain cases these guidelines are evoke

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2024 22 Apr 09:39 -0500, Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: > > You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of > > release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is > > not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy",

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-22, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote: > >> On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: >>> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of >>> release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is >>> not what the Debian.or

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread fxkl47BF
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: >> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of >> release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is >> not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: > You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of > release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is > not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We > Are / What We Do" pages are current

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun Apr 21, 2024 at 9:58 PM BST, Reid wrote: > If the Installers are not ALL going to give users the choice to opt-in > or opt-out of non-free components, then those above-mentioned > promotional pages really need to be updated so as to not be misleading > users. I'm sure the Debian WWW team wo

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-21 Thread Michael Kjörling
tional pages really need to be > updated so as to not be misleading users. I'm saying that _this hasn't changed_ between Bullseye and Bookworm. Reading the release notes or the installation guide has been very strongly recommended practice for a _very_ long time; and the _documented_

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-21 Thread David Wright
On Sun 21 Apr 2024 at 21:59:21 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? > > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html > > Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? but perhaps without all the deception crap, un

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? Stefan

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-21 Thread Reid
s >> of the new policy on the download pages. > > Agreed. It should be easy to adjust the installation process with an > extra step whether to include/install non-free-firmware or not. > It's also an opportunity to raise awareness of the problem.

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-21 Thread fxkl47BF
inent warnings >> of the new policy on the download pages. > > Agreed. It should be easy to adjust the installation process with an > extra step whether to include/install non-free-firmware or not. > It's also an opportunity to raise awareness of the problem. do you think the debian gods are listening

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
ges. Agreed. It should be easy to adjust the installation process with an extra step whether to include/install non-free-firmware or not. It's also an opportunity to raise awareness of the problem. Stefan

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-21 Thread Reid
You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We Are / What We Do" pages are currently promoting Debian as. That's not

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-21 Thread Michael Kjörling
omatically installing 29 non-free components with neither > permission nor warning is not Free Software friendly). Did you look through the installation guide, reading which before installing Debian is _highly recommended_? Out of Bookworm's installation guide: Section 2.2 "Devices Requirin

Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-21 Thread Reid
Debian's policy change on non-free-firmware has made much of the Debian.org website very misleading, and some Debian OS installers have become very Free Software UNfriendly and deceptive. The following is my experience, and the reasons why I believe Debian must re-word their promotiona

Re: ip link versus nmcli device, WIFI firmware related

2024-01-21 Thread David Wright
On Mon 22 Jan 2024 at 00:05:08 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 21/01/2024 23:33, Geert Stappers wrote: > > The repair: > > > > wget > > http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-iwlwifi_20210315-3_all.deb > > > > sudo dpkg

Re: ip link versus nmcli device, WIFI firmware related

2024-01-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/01/2024 23:33, Geert Stappers wrote: The repair: wget http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-iwlwifi_20210315-3_all.deb sudo dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi_20210315-3_all.deb https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html

Re: ip link versus nmcli device, WIFI firmware related

2024-01-21 Thread David Wright
On Sun 21 Jan 2024 at 17:33:57 (+0100), Geert Stappers wrote: > [7.854942] iwlwifi :02:00.0: reporting RF_KILL (radio disabled) > [7.860452] iwlwifi :02:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio. > [8.356275] iwlwifi :02:00.0 wlp2s0: renamed from wlan0 Run rfkill and, if i

Re: ip link versus nmcli device, WIFI firmware related

2024-01-21 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 03:58:18PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Here on a laptop does `ip link` see a WIFI device, > but `nmcli device` does not. > > How to make NetworkManager aware of a WIFI device? > Have the firmware for WIFI card ins

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 2023-12-06 17:20:16, Sven Joachim wrote: Maintainer uploads to (old)stable are staged in proposed-updates, so you would have to enable bookworm-proposed-updates to install the new version of firmware-nvidia-gsp. I missed the non-free-firmware for bookworm-updates and bookworm-proposed

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2023-12-06 15:24 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > I have tried to upgrade to 12.3, but apparently the dependencies > of the new nvidia-kernel-dkms version cannot be fulfilled. > firmware-nvidia-gsp (= 525.147.05) is missing. I tried several > repositories. Note that Debian 12.3

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 04:45:41PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > On 2023-12-06 15:55:58, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > > > Which ones? > > > > ftp.de.debian.org > ftp2.de.debian.org > deb.debian.org > > > That package is in the non-free-firmwa

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 2023-12-06 15:55:58, Michael Kjörling wrote: Which ones? ftp.de.debian.org ftp2.de.debian.org deb.debian.org That package is in the non-free-firmware component; are you bringing that in? https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/firmware-nvidia-gsp There is still the old version

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 6 Dec 2023 15:24 +0100, from harald.dun...@aixigo.com (Harald Dunkel): > I have tried to upgrade to 12.3, but apparently the dependencies > of the new nvidia-kernel-dkms version cannot be fulfilled. > firmware-nvidia-gsp (= 525.147.05) is missing. I tried several > repositories.

Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I have tried to upgrade to 12.3, but apparently the dependencies of the new nvidia-kernel-dkms version cannot be fulfilled. firmware-nvidia-gsp (= 525.147.05) is missing. I tried several repositories. Hopefully I am not too blind to find the bug report (the new version fixes a CVE, ie

Re: How to install Sid with non-free firmware for wifi?

2023-11-01 Thread Martin
would have thought you'd have firmware-ath9k-htc installed to > run that device. You could download it from: > > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware&searchon=names&suite=sid§ion=all > by means of your old installation if necessary. > > Package firmwa

Re: How to install Sid with non-free firmware for wifi?

2023-11-01 Thread David Wright
001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > > >From above outut i figure out my adapter is: > Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0cf3:9271 Qualcomm Atheros Communications AR9271 > 802.11n I would have thought yo

Re: How to install Sid with non-free firmware for wifi?

2023-11-01 Thread Martin
On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 02:09:57PM +0100, Marco M. wrote: > Am 01.11.2023 um 13:59:51 Uhr schrieb Martin: > > Do you have USB NICs? > Does your computer has an Ethernet NIC (wired)? > > Then use them for installing the packages. I have one computer with wifi connection to internet. The problem i

Re: How to install Sid with non-free firmware for wifi?

2023-11-01 Thread Marco M.
Am 01.11.2023 um 13:59:51 Uhr schrieb Martin: > The problem is that my wifi receiver is not recognized by installer. Do you have USB NICs? Does your computer has an Ethernet NIC (wired)? Then use them for installing the packages. > My wifi adapter is TP-LINK TL-WN722N Relevant is the USB-ID/PC

How to install Sid with non-free firmware for wifi?

2023-11-01 Thread Martin
Hello, I am currently using Sid version of Debian - in /etc/apt/sources.list i have: deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free non-free-firmware non-free and non-free-firmware I have because of drivers I need for my machine (most acute is wifi receiver, but i guess for

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-10-11 Thread Felix Miata
ve been >> routine >> for a long time in Bullseye and Bookworm regardless of active GPU installed, >> and >> whether or not a firmware-brand-graphics .deb exists and is installed >> for it. > It would be useful to give an example of these messages, as well as a > li

Re: Debian as daily driver; WiFi networking and firmware (was: General Questions)

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
unning a GUI) lend themselves better toward a server installation than to a workstation setup. > It turns out you need free firmware to use wifi? But I can use wifi, but > only with some DE. I just can't use it just from the start without DE. "Non-free" firmware. Often readily dist

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-06-22 Thread bw
#x27;t see it helping. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=initramfs-tools-core;dist=unstable The way I see it, it's not a bug. Initramfs-tools is not responsible for deciding what firmware a specific device or machine needs. It is only reporting that a module to be included lists

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
d_modname\\>" /proc/modules > "${CONFDIR}/modules"; then > echo "W: Possible missing firmware > /lib/firmware/${firmware} for module > fi Mostly gibberish to this non-programmer. Comment out what, 3 lines? 1? 2? The one I'm loo

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-06-19 Thread bw
all goes wrong. /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions 4322/23580 18% if grep -q "^$kmod_modname\\>" /proc/modules "${CONFDIR}/modules"; then echo "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/${firmware} for module fi

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-06-19 Thread Felix Miata
ve been >> routine >> for a long time in Bullseye and Bookworm regardless of active GPU installed, >> and >> whether or not a firmware-brand-graphics .deb exists and is installed >> for it. > It would be useful to give an example of these messages, as well as a > l

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-05-11 Thread Felix Miata
ve been >> routine >> for a long time in Bullseye and Bookworm regardless of active GPU installed, >> and >> whether or not a firmware-brand-graphics .deb exists and is installed >> for it. > It would be useful to give an example of these messages, as well as a &

Re: cirrus/cs35l41 'Cannot Initialize Firmware. Error: -22'

2023-05-11 Thread James Addison
Hi Vladimir, As you've found, Debian doesn't yet distribute firmware for the Cirrus CS35L41, although there is an open bugreport to add support for it that you can subscribe to: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1031912 The recommended symlinks to create after installin

cirrus/cs35l41 'Cannot Initialize Firmware. Error: -22'

2023-05-10 Thread Vladimir Drozdik
Hi, What did you try to accomplish? install debian bookworm on Lenovo Legion 7 16ACHg6 What has happened (wrongly) instead? a) multiple errors in boot log saying 'failed to load cirrus/cs35l41...wmf', and after fix attempt 'invalid magic' and 'Cannot Initialize Firmwa

Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-04-29 Thread Sven Joachim
grep MODULES /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf > # MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep | list ] > MODULES=dep > # > > These many per transaction $SUBJECT initrd construction messages have been > routine > for a long time in Bullseye and Bookworm regardless of active GPU instal

W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-04-28 Thread Felix Miata
| list ] MODULES=dep # These many per transaction $SUBJECT initrd construction messages have been routine for a long time in Bullseye and Bookworm regardless of active GPU installed, and whether or not a firmware-brand-graphics .deb exists and is installed for it. Is there something that can be

Re: [Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-29 Thread Steve McIntyre
omething like >Detected ethernet HW, renamed to eth0 (succeed) >then... : >Failed to load mt7821 firmware (lots of this) >hardware init failed >[ loaded modules] >[ stack trace ] > >rfkill >wiphy >ieee802 > > >Any ideas or workaround for this? There's a bug i

Re: [Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-29 Thread Ismael Farfán
he installer (Net or DVD) tries to detect the HW, the > installer > >stops blank. > > > >The last thing I see in dmesg is something like > >Detected ethernet HW, renamed to eth0 (succeed) > >then... : > >Failed to load mt7821 firmware (lots of this) >

Re: [Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 Mar 2023 at 09:39:01 (-0600), Ismael Farfán wrote: > I tried with these 2 installers: > 7da925a34f6f7ab6e39ad64514139afb debian-bookworm-DI-alpha2-amd64-DVD-1.iso > 547c0e2f85ec04ffec6d08a1e84c64e6 > debian-bookworm-DI-alpha2-amd64-netinst.iso > > both con

Re: [Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-29 Thread Jude DaShiell
escribió: > > > Could it be Debian hasn't got your firmware in any of its installations? > > That points at very new firmware. > > > > > The issue is that the installation should continue anyway and get packages > from the DVD, instead the installer hangs ther

Re: [Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-29 Thread Ismael Farfán
El mié, 29 mar 2023 a la(s) 10:33, Jude DaShiell (jdash...@panix.com) escribió: > Could it be Debian hasn't got your firmware in any of its installations? > That points at very new firmware. > > The issue is that the installation should continue anyway and get packages from the

Re: [Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-29 Thread Jude DaShiell
Could it be Debian hasn't got your firmware in any of its installations? That points at very new firmware. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and amo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Wed, 29 Mar 2023, Ismael Far

Re: [Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-29 Thread Ismael Farfán
I tried with these 2 installers: 7da925a34f6f7ab6e39ad64514139afb debian-bookworm-DI-alpha2-amd64-DVD-1.iso 547c0e2f85ec04ffec6d08a1e84c64e6 debian-bookworm-DI-alpha2-amd64-netinst.iso both contain firmware-misc-nonfree_20230117-2_all.deb which is, I guess, where it's trying to loa

Re: [Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-29 Thread David Wright
in dmesg is something like > Detected ethernet HW, renamed to eth0 (succeed) > then... : > Failed to load mt7821 firmware (lots of this) > hardware init failed > [ loaded modules] > [ stack trace ] > > rfkill > wiphy > ieee802 > > > Any ideas or workaround for thi

[Bookworm] installer stops due to missing wifi firmware

2023-03-28 Thread Ismael Farfán
load mt7821 firmware (lots of this) hardware init failed [ loaded modules] [ stack trace ] rfkill wiphy ieee802 Any ideas or workaround for this? I also tried with the advanced installer from the DVD but it always wants to try detecting the network HW and stops there. -- Do not let me induce y

Re: have you inserted usb disk with firmware during installation?

2023-02-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 02:24:00PM +0800, lsg wrote: > installer seems very buggy > > bullseye installer can't find firmware after i insert usb disk > > after lots of frustration and effort, i realize i shall copy firmware to > sda1, which use vfat FS, then installer c

have you inserted usb disk with firmware during installation?

2023-02-19 Thread lsg
installer seems very buggy bullseye installer can't find firmware after i insert usb disk after lots of frustration and effort, i realize i shall copy firmware to sda1, which use vfat FS, then installer can get firmware without prompting me.

Re: Debian Package Web Page seems not include non-free-firmware section

2023-02-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:18:30 +0100 Computer Enthusiastic wrote: > The web page used to search packages in Debian repositories at: > > https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > > seems not to search for packages in the recently created > "non-free-firmware"

Debian Package Web Page seems not include non-free-firmware section

2023-02-10 Thread Computer Enthusiastic
Hello, The web page used to search packages in Debian repositories at: https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages seems not to search for packages in the recently created "non-free-firmware" section for bookwork and sid. To whom this should be reported ? Thanks.

Re: WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm

2023-02-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 12:31:27 + piorunz wrote: > On 10/02/2023 04:29, Gary Dale wrote: > > Thanks. That points then to a problem with the package.debian.org > > page - it doesn't seem to search the new section. I found the > > announcement when I searched for debia

Re: WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm

2023-02-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/02/2023 04:29, Gary Dale wrote: Thanks. That points then to a problem with the package.debian.org page - it doesn't seem to search the new section. I found the announcement when I searched for debian non-free firmware. Right now if you don't know it exists, you can'

Re: WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm

2023-02-09 Thread Gary Dale
ter that used to use it. That really only required downloading the correct firmware package that contained the brcmfmac module. That package no longer exists in Bookworm. Would that be firmware-brcm80211? That still exists in bookworm; it's just been moved to the new non-free-firmware

Re: WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm

2023-02-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 2023-02-09 22:07, piorunz wrote: On 10/02/2023 02:39, Gary Dale wrote: Interestingly the device works in Bullseye as I installed Bullseye on the computer that used to use it. That really only required downloading the correct firmware package that contained the brcmfmac module. That package

Re: WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm

2023-02-09 Thread The Wanderer
ice works in Bullseye as I installed Bullseye on > the computer that used to use it. That really only required downloading > the correct firmware package that contained the brcmfmac module. That > package no longer exists in Bookworm. Would that be firmware-brcm80211? That still exists

Re: WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm

2023-02-09 Thread piorunz
On 10/02/2023 02:39, Gary Dale wrote: Interestingly the device works in Bullseye as I installed Bullseye on the computer that used to use it. That really only required downloading the correct firmware package that contained the brcmfmac module. That package no longer exists in Bookworm. All

WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm

2023-02-09 Thread Gary Dale
,uas I'm using KDE/Plasma as my desktop and plasma-nm is loaded. However it too doesn't seem to think that there is a wifi network. Interestingly the device works in Bullseye as I installed Bullseye on the computer that used to use it. That really only required downloading the corr

Re: what do I need to add to my sources.list for the new non-free-firmware repository?

2023-01-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:03:51 -0800 "Rick Thomas" wrote: Hello Rick, >So what do I need to add to my sources.list file to get them back now? There was an announcement a few days ago, saying what to do. Typically, I cannot find it ATM. However, you simply need to add; non-fre

Re: what do I need to add to my sources.list for the new non-free-firmware repository?

2023-01-31 Thread David
On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 23:21, Rick Thomas wrote: > I've got a couple of Debian systems that (for various reasons) are running > "testing" or "sid". > I recently did > apt update && apt upgrade && aptitude search '~o' &

what do I need to add to my sources.list for the new non-free-firmware repository?

2023-01-31 Thread Rick Thomas
I've got a couple of Debian systems that (for various reasons) are running "testing" or "sid". I recently did apt update && apt upgrade && aptitude search '~o' on these machines and found that a number of firmware packages are con

Re: new archive section: non-free-firmware

2023-01-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 21:19:55 +0100 Sven Joachim wrote: > Sorry, that was my fault. I should have given the link to outcome of > the vote as well, it was Option 5 "Change SC for non-free firmware in > installer, one installer"[1]. Thank you. My question is answered. --

Re: new archive section: non-free-firmware

2023-01-28 Thread Sven Joachim
ven the link to outcome of the vote as well, it was Option 5 "Change SC for non-free firmware in installer, one installer"[1]. Cheers, Sven 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2022/10/msg1.html

Re: new archive section: non-free-firmware

2023-01-28 Thread Charles Curley
ller to do so. However, I am not familiar enough with Debian processes to determine which language was approved, so I could not determine the answer to my question. > If you are making a wholly new install, I suspect that the change > will be made for you if the need for non-free firmware is detected

Re: new archive section: non-free-firmware

2023-01-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
free > > > > after: > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free > > non-free-firmware > > Will the Debian Installer make this change? And under what > circumstances will it do so? > Hi Charles, This all follows on the General Resol

Re: new archive section: non-free-firmware

2023-01-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 18:09:27 +0100 Sven Joachim wrote: > To use the new section, edit sources.list like this: > > before: > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free > > after: > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free >

new archive section: non-free-firmware

2023-01-28 Thread Sven Joachim
Some news for you who are running unstable or testing/bookworm and have firmware packages installed from non-free (most users who do not run Debian in a VM probably have): these firmware packages are being moved to a new section non-free-firmware, and you should update your sources.list(5) entries

Re: bullseye installer can't load non-free firmware from usb stick

2023-01-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 06:51:47PM +0800, lsg wrote: > but i use hard disk installation method, i put firmware in same place as iso > image, installer can locate firmware without prompting me > Better to use the unofficial .iso image that includes firmware from the start

bullseye installer can't load non-free firmware from usb stick

2023-01-13 Thread lsg
but i use hard disk installation method, i put firmware in same place as iso image, installer can locate firmware without prompting me

Re: Reboot required after updating firmware-amd-graphics?

2022-12-07 Thread Sven Hartge
local10 wrote: > Dec 7, 2022, 15:42 by to...@tuxteam.de: >> So a rough approximation to an answer would be "yes". > That was my thought as well but I was hoping maybe there was some > automagical way it could refresh itself in RAM. You can see firmware as kind-of an

Re: Reboot required after updating firmware-amd-graphics?

2022-12-07 Thread David Wright
On Wed 07 Dec 2022 at 17:43:16 (+0100), local10 wrote: > That was my thought as well but I was hoping maybe there was some automagical > way it could refresh itself in RAM. Downloading firmware and installing it is bread and butter for the debian-installer, but you have to be able to remo

Re: Reboot required after updating firmware-amd-graphics?

2022-12-07 Thread local10
Dec 7, 2022, 15:42 by to...@tuxteam.de: > So a rough approximation to an answer would be "yes". > That was my thought as well but I was hoping maybe there was some automagical way it could refresh itself in RAM. Regards,

Re: Reboot required after updating firmware-amd-graphics?

2022-12-07 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 07, 2022 at 03:52:26PM +0100, local10 wrote: > Hi, > > Is reboot required after updating firmware-amd-graphics for the updates to > take effect? I'd expect the firmware to be loaded when the driver is loaded. You might try to unload the relevant driver (probably so

Reboot required after updating firmware-amd-graphics?

2022-12-07 Thread local10
Hi, Is reboot required after updating firmware-amd-graphics for the updates to take effect? Regards, # cat /etc/debian_version && uname -a bookworm/sid Linux tst 6.0.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.0.10-1 (2022-11-26) x86_64 GNU/Linux

Re: firmware-atheros - slow internet

2022-11-09 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date    Insyde Corp. V1.09, 2014-07-17 Though it is an old laptop, I was confident that Debian 11 would be able to bring her to its past glory, and it did! with the exception of the the Bluetooth capability. I 'apt install firmware-atheros'

firmware-atheros - slow internet

2022-11-08 Thread Amn
) BIOS Version/Date    Insyde Corp. V1.09, 2014-07-17 Though it is an old laptop, I was confident that Debian 11 would be able to bring her to its past glory, and it did! with the exception of the the Bluetooth capability. I 'apt install firmware-atheros', but the result were most una

Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-05 Thread Darac Marjal
On 05/10/2022 05:18, David Wright wrote: On Mon 03 Oct 2022 at 13:27:13 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:53:46 +0300 Georgi Naplatanov wrote: Actually I think I found out what was happening: - for failed connection attempts trough SSH - the notebook sometimes switches

Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-04 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Oct 2022 at 13:27:13 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:53:46 +0300 Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > > Actually I think I found out what was happening: > >- for failed connection attempts trough SSH - the notebook > > sometimes switches to suspend/sleep mode and turns

Re: [SOLVED] Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-03 Thread David
On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 06:27, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:53:46 +0300 Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >>- for high latency - 100 ms and sometimes even more - this problem >> is in my router probably (I installed OpenWrt on it, the issue may be >> in my local environment, busy WiFi

Re: [SOLVED] Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:53:46 +0300 Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/ > > it seems that version 72 is not available but I'll try with 71. I wouldn't bother. I agree with Stefan Monnier 's obse

Re: [SOLVED] Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-03 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
from kernel log: [3.453655] iwlwifi :00:14.3: firmware: failed to load iwlwifi-QuZ-a0-hr-b0-72.ucode (-2) [3.453695] firmware_class: See https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware for information about missing firmware [3.454449] iwlwifi :00:14.3: firmware: failed to load iwlwifi-QuZ-a0-hr

Re: [SOLVED] Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-03 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 10/3/22 20:00, Stefan Monnier wrote: These are the entries from kernel log: [3.453655] iwlwifi :00:14.3: firmware: failed to load iwlwifi-QuZ-a0-hr-b0-72.ucode (-2) [3.453695] firmware_class: See https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware for information about missing firmware

Re: [SOLVED] Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-03 Thread David Wright
X axis -l unlock } This is related to my impatience rather than any system fault. > These are the entries from kernel log: > > [3.453655] iwlwifi :00:14.3: firmware: failed to load > iwlwifi-QuZ-a0-hr-b0-72.ucode (-2) > [3.453695] firmware_class: See https://wiki.de

Re: [SOLVED] Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> These are the entries from kernel log: > > [3.453655] iwlwifi :00:14.3: firmware: failed to load > iwlwifi-QuZ-a0-hr-b0-72.ucode (-2) > [3.453695] firmware_class: See https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware for > information about missing firmware > [3.454449]

[SOLVED] Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-02 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
book automatically to my network. What are you using to connect the laptop to a network? Network Manager? Network manager through applet in KDE. In kernel log are visible messages for unsuccessful attempts to load firmware files. Do those correlate with successful or unsuccessful attempts

Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:41:14 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > And that the SSH connection is (at least part of) what seems to be > dropping out, which is being interpreted as evidence that there's a > problem with the wireless connection. Good point. Let's see if the original poster (OP) clarifies th

Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-10-02 at 12:33, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 11:49:14 +0300 > Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > >> I have a notebook (Lenovo) with Intel's WiFi and I have minor issues >> with it - sometimes works as expected but sometimes I cannot connect >> to the notebook at first attempt thro

Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-02 Thread Charles Curley
ork, and then check that you have a working network before you try SSH? What are you using to connect the laptop to a network? Network Manager? > In kernel log are visible messages for unsuccessful attempts to > load firmware files. Do those correlate with successful or unsuccessful attem

Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 11:49:14 +0300 Georgi Naplatanov wrote: Hello Georgi, >thanks for the advice. YW. Sadly, that's all the advice I can offer - I have no experience of using SSH over WiFi, let alone the specific driver set you specified (nothing here requires those drivers). Maybe somebody el

Re: firmware-iwlwifi

2022-10-02 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
as expected but sometimes I cannot connect to the notebook at first attempt throw SSH or sometimes latency is high. In kernel log are visible messages for unsuccessful attempts to load firmware files. Anyway, I'll try to use upstream's firmware files for Linux kernel and if these issu

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