Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Jimmy, On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:15:28AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:13:12AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >>On 05/26/2019 11:03 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > >>>There doesn't seem to be any point in interacting further. > >> > >>Andy that's the most helpful thing

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/28/2019 08:44 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:13:12AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 05/26/2019 11:03 PM, Andy Smith wrote: There doesn't seem to be any point in interacting further. Andy that's the most helpful thing you've said, I guess you missed the

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > The exim4 installation provides a symbolic link > > snowball:558$ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 May 7 11:44 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> exim4* > Actually, the right way to configure reportbug on a local-mail-only system is to "run the

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Curt writes: > On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > >> experimental: 1.18.0-1 >> Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already >> addressed by these releases. Do you still want to file a report >> [y|N|q|?]? > > Think I might've entered 'q' here on the off chance it

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:13:12AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 05/26/2019 11:03 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > >There doesn't seem to be any point in interacting further. > > Andy that's the most helpful thing you've said, I guess you missed the response where the very first thing I did

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:48:35 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 28.05.19 08:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:34:37 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > That said, one could upgrade just that one package, and try it > > > out. If it is fixed, you're on a winner then and there.

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 09:49:47AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:29:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > A long enough run at it? :) I never gave it any great thought other than > you don't write like somebody from "east of the river". (where > river=Mississippi)

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:35:17 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:32:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats a piece of cake Reco. On a new install, set both the hostname > > and the domainname, then add them, with the ipv4 net address into > > the hosts file. Then make

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:30:59 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 28.05.19 14:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address you > > > choose, supposedly at random,

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:29:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 09:19:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:59:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > The third time, you owe me a beer ;-P > > > > You're on, but you'll have to come and get it,

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 28.05.19 08:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:34:37 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > > That said, one could upgrade just that one package, and try it out. If > > it is fixed, you're on a winner then and there. "Fixed" beats > > "reported", as you can get on with the next issue. >

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:32:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Thats a piece of cake Reco. On a new install, set both the hostname and > the domainname, then add them, with the ipv4 net address into the hosts > file. Then make resolv.conf back into a real file, with 2 lines, one to > set the

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 28.05.19 14:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address you choose, > > supposedly at random, isn't in use someplace next door or half the > > planet away? There may

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 09:19:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:59:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > The third time, you owe me a beer ;-P > > You're on, but you'll have to come and get it, and it will be miller64 > because I'm diabetic [...] It's quite

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:59:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address you > > choose, supposedly at random, isn't in use someplace next door or > > half the planet away?

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:48:06 am Dan Purgert wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > only talk to it. But if I leave the radio on, I've a neighbor whose > > phone will use it in a heartbeat regardless > > [...] > > Sounds like someone forgot to set security on their wifi... I thought that was what I

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:32:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 01:49:29 am Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:06:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address you choose, > supposedly at random, isn't in use someplace next door or half the > planet away? There may be some sort of an enforcement in ipv6, but I've > not

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:34:37 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 28.05.19 08:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > > Gene Heskett writes: > > > Your version (1.14.6-2) of network-manager appears to be out of > > > date. The following newer

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 07:00:13 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 27.05.19 17:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats fine, shows the loop local stuff, but how does one determine > > the ipv6 address for picnc.coyote.den for instance. I think it > > somehow related to picnc's mac address, but thats just

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Gene Heskett wrote: > only talk to it. But if I leave the radio on, I've a neighbor whose > phone will use it in a heartbeat regardless > [...] Sounds like someone forgot to set security on their wifi... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 05/28/2019 08:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Gene Heskett writes: On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46) On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: On 2019-05-27,

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 28.05.19 08:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > > Gene Heskett writes: > > Your version (1.14.6-2) of network-manager appears to be out of date. > > The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive: > > experimental: 1.18.0-1

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 01:49:29 am Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:06:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Gene Heskett writes: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46) > >> > >> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > >> > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > >> > > > If

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 27.05.19 23:32, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > No, seriously I would like to get some user feedback to the question. > And also why is net-tools being deprecated? It's not. You and I fully approve of it, so it's fine for the use cases in which it gives the desired results. (See ifconfig use on this

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 27.05.19 17:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > Thats fine, shows the loop local stuff, but how does one determine the > ipv6 address for picnc.coyote.den for instance. I think it somehow > related to picnc's mac address, but thats just a WAG. On coyote, it'll look something like line 3: $ ifconfig

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:59:41AM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 07:47:36AM -, Curt wrote: > > On a more serious note, as exim is set up to deliver only local mail on > > many machines (default installation), what happens when you cannot hand > > your bug report

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 07:47:36AM -, Curt wrote: > On a more serious note, as exim is set up to deliver only local mail on > many machines (default installation), what happens when you cannot hand > your bug report over to a sendmail-like MTA? The expected thing happens. Your

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Curt (2019-05-28 09:47:36) > On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > > experimental: 1.18.0-1 > > Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already > > addressed by these releases. Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]? > > Think I might've entered 'q' here

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > experimental: 1.18.0-1 > Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already addressed > by these releases. Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]? Think I might've entered 'q' here on the off chance it represented the word quit.

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/27/2019 12:54 PM, Brian wrote: On Mon 27 May 2019 at 10:19:45 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 05/27/2019 12:46 AM, Curt wrote: On 2019-05-27, wrote: If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:06:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:06:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > Thats fine, shows the loop local stuff, but how does one determine the > ipv6 address for picnc.coyote.den for instance. I think it somehow > related to picnc's mac address, but thats just a WAG. There's not THE ip address.

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Gene Heskett writes: > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46) >> >> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: >> > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: >> > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ >> > > >

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-27 22:22, Gene Heskett wrote: Then what was I looking at 3 hours ago, looked like a login form to me, wanted my username, my real name and my email address. That popped up and denied me access when I clicked on add bug in the upper right corner of the screen? It flat refused to let

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 06:45:42 pm Brian wrote: > On Mon 27 May 2019 at 17:22:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:25:21 pm Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > > > > > On

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > > below> > >> You are determined to exterminate any and all users of a hosts file, >> staticly defined

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 May 2019 at 17:22:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:25:21 pm Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > > > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > > > If Network Manager is giving

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46) > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ > > > > tree (I can't say much about

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:25:21 pm Brian wrote: > On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ > > > > tree (I can't say much about

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: >

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 May 2019 at 10:19:45 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 05/27/2019 12:46 AM, Curt wrote: > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > > > > > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree > > > (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes about > > >

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46) > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ > > > tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my > > > boxes about ten years ago: I

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ > > > tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes > > > about ten

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread Reco
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > "you", below> > > > > > You are determined

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > > "you", below> > > > You are determined to exterminate any and all users of a hosts file, > > staticly defined network.

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ > > tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes > > about ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN via an > > Ethernet, when

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/27/2019 01:51 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Curt (2019-05-27 09:46:00) On 2019-05-27, wrote: If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes about ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/27/2019 12:46 AM, Curt wrote: On 2019-05-27, wrote: If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes about ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN via an Ethernet, when N-M suddenly saw a WLAN

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 02:56:07 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:41:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > I don't think so. ipv6 I'm sure is nice where its available. Where > > it is not available, its a pain in the ass because even if you set > > it up as a

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/26/2019 11:03 PM, Andy Smith wrote: There doesn't seem to be any point in interacting further. Andy Andy that's the most helpful thing you've said, you are trolling Gene a longtime Debian Linux User who is having problems adjusting to not having Debian Linux any longer, like so

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 02:03:27 am Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:41:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > No Andy, it didn't drink my last beer

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 08:58:14AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > > below> > > > You are determined to exterminate any and all users of a hosts file, > > staticly defined

IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > You are determined to exterminate any and all users of a hosts file, > staticly defined network. Its ideal for small home networks. Hmm, that's interesting -- is there an analog to

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Curt (2019-05-27 09:46:00) > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ > > tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes > > about ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN via an > > Ethernet, when N-M

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 07:46:00AM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree [...] > This is a grave bug. I suppose we can assume from your description that > the seedier the wifi portal, the more likely it is

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree > (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes about > ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN via an Ethernet, when > N-M suddenly saw a WLAN out there, out the window

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:41:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > I don't think so. ipv6 I'm sure is nice where its available. Where it is > not available, its a pain in the ass because even if you set it up as a > static ipv4, N-M will tear it down in 5 minutes or less. And N-M is a >

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:41:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > No Andy, it didn't drink my last beer (Murphy does that), or kill > > > any kittens but it did totally

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 25 May 2019 07:33:01 am Andy Smith wrote: > > > My recollection was that none of that was ever established in any > > > of the threads you posted here, so

That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 25 May 2019 07:33:01 am Andy Smith wrote: > > My recollection was that none of that was ever established in any of > > the threads you posted here, so that is a really weird thing to keep > > stating. Did IPv6 use

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 May 2019 12:36:51 pm rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 06:52:00AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > the installer locked me to ipv6, and the nearest ipv6 connectivity > > > is probably in Pittsburgh PA, 140 some miles north of me. The > > > installer hasn't

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-25 Thread rhkramer
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 06:52:00AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > the installer locked me to ipv6, and the nearest ipv6 connectivity > > is probably in Pittsburgh PA, 140 some miles north of me. The > > installer hasn't brains enough to try ipv4 when it can't find > > anything working in ipv6.

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 May 2019 07:33:01 am Andy Smith wrote: > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 06:52:00AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > the installer locked me to ipv6, and the nearest ipv6 connectivity > > is probably in Pittsburgh PA, 140 some miles north of me. The > > installer hasn't brains enough to try

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-25 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 06:52:00AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > the installer locked me to ipv6, and the nearest ipv6 connectivity > is probably in Pittsburgh PA, 140 some miles north of me. The > installer hasn't brains enough to try ipv4 when it can't find > anything working in ipv6. My

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 May 2019 06:37:05 am Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 02 mai 19, 16:19:08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 02 May 2019 14:18:53 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 02/05/2019 à 13:25, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > > Ha anything been done to forcedeth

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 02 mai 19, 16:19:08, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 02 May 2019 14:18:53 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 02/05/2019 à 13:25, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > Ha anything been done to forcedeth since wheezy? > > > > Why are you asking ? > > > > &

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 02 May 2019 14:18:53 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 02/05/2019 à 13:25, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > Ha anything been done to forcedeth since wheezy? > > Why are you asking ? > > > I have installed the LCNC version of stretch > > What is LCNC and how does

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/05/2019 à 13:25, Gene Heskett a écrit : Ha anything been done to forcedeth since wheezy? Why are you asking ? I have installed the LCNC version of stretch What is LCNC and how does if differ from vanilla stretch ? The network was easy to make work after the install (the installer

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-02 Thread songbird
Gene Heskett wrote: ... > And theres no way to even trace its failure because strace is not > installed. The error message is very explicit, RTNETWORK, whatever the > heck that is, says "file exists", followed by "failed." > > Do I file a bug against force

forcedeth?

2019-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; Ha anything been done to forcedeth since wheezy? I have installed the LCNC version of stretch on two machines so far, an old Dell GX520 and this machine, which has an Asus M2n-sli deluxe mobo, which has nvidia ethernet ports using forcedeth. The network was easy to make work

Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

2015-06-21 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Bruce Ward a écrit : On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:12:49PM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: An entry options forcedeth ms=0 msix=0 in some /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf should do thr trick, no? I have tried putting the line forcedeth msi=0 msix=0 into /etc/modules as appeared to work

Re: [SOLVED] Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

2015-06-20 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2015-06-19 at 14:05 +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: Thanks Selim, that fixed it. Glad you got it working, but there's certainly a bug there. If you have the time, maybe you could file a bug (preferably directly upstream) or see if it already has been reported. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson

Re: [SOLVED] Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

2015-06-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 02:05:37PM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: Thanks Selim, that fixed it. [selim] options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0 ^^^ Should be like this. Yes, solution is /etc/modprobe.d/forcedeth.conf containing options

forcedeth driver - bug?

2015-06-18 Thread Bruce Ward
Installing Jessie 8.1.0 on an Asrock N68-VGS3 FX motherboard. This has Giga PHY RTL8211CL ethernet, which lspci reports as: 00:07.0 Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) It uses the forcedeth driver module, which seems to need parameters msi=0 msix=0 to work. If I blacklist

Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

2015-06-18 Thread tomas
) It uses the forcedeth driver module, which seems to need parameters msi=0 msix=0 to work. If I blacklist the driver, I can load it with modprobe forcedeth msi=0 msix=0 and all is fine. However, it needs this after every reboot and I have not found a way to successfully load the module

[SOLVED] Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

2015-06-18 Thread Bruce Ward
of it :-( On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:06:30AM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: An entry options forcedeth ms=0 msix=0 in some /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf should do thr trick, no? Of course, perhaps you tried that already and I'm mis-interpreting your question completely. Apologies if that's the case. No I have

Re: Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

2015-06-18 Thread Bruce Ward
Hi Tomas On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:12:49PM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: Installing Jessie 8.1.0 on an Asrock N68-VGS3 FX motherboard. This has Giga PHY RTL8211CL ethernet, which lspci reports as: 00:07.0 Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) It uses the forcedeth driver module

Re: Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

2015-06-18 Thread Selim T . Erdoğan
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:06:30AM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: An entry options forcedeth ms=0 msix=0 in some /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf should do thr trick, no? Of course, perhaps you tried that already and I'm mis-interpreting your question completely. Apologies if that's the case. No I

Re: Occasional hangups with forcedeth

2011-01-17 Thread John A. Sullivan III
%. Any hints or workarounds? Regards, Klaus # dmesg |grep -i forcedet [1.528115] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.64. [1.529046] forcedeth :00:0a.0: PCI INT A - Link[LMAC] - GSI 20 (level, low) - IRQ 20 [1.529055] forcedeth :00:0a.0

Re: Occasional hangups with forcedeth

2011-01-17 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:56:54 +0100, Klaus Pieper wrote: using 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP79 Ethernet (rev b1) I have occasional (i.e. occuring about every 6 weeks) hangups of this device. Ping to and from the machine does work, but loss is over 70%. Any hints

Re: Occasional hangups with forcedeth

2011-01-17 Thread Klaus Pieper
Hi Camaleon, Does ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 restore the connectivity? Didn't try. If you are running lenny, I would try with an updated updated kernel (if this can be an option at your side) :-? It's squeeze. I have been waiting since 2.6.26 for a kernel fix. I might try 2.6.37. Linux

Occasional hangups with forcedeth

2011-01-16 Thread Klaus Pieper
forcedet [1.528115] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.64. [1.529046] forcedeth :00:0a.0: PCI INT A - Link[LMAC] - GSI 20 (level, low) - IRQ 20 [1.529055] forcedeth :00:0a.0: setting latency timer to 64 [1.594154] forcedeth :00:0a.0: ifname

Re: Occasional hangups with forcedeth

2011-01-16 Thread Berni Elbourn
? Regards, Klaus # dmesg |grep -i forcedet [ 1.528115] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.64. [ 1.529046] forcedeth :00:0a.0: PCI INT A - Link[LMAC] - GSI 20 (level, low) - IRQ 20 [ 1.529055] forcedeth :00:0a.0: setting latency timer to 64 [ 1.594154

MCP73 Ethernet not supported by forcedeth module

2008-06-10 Thread George Chelidze
Hello, Recently I've got a mainboard with MCP73 chipset (don't have model info, however I can provide it later if required) and would like to use onboard network card. I have installed 2.6.18-6 and seems it's forcedeth module doesn't support this chipset. The following link was very helpful

Re: MCP73 Ethernet not supported by forcedeth module

2008-06-10 Thread baldyeti
/2008 11:16, George Chelidze wrote: Hello, Recently I've got a mainboard with MCP73 chipset (don't have model info, however I can provide it later if required) and would like to use onboard network card. I have installed 2.6.18-6 and seems it's forcedeth module doesn't support this chipset

Asrock K8NF6G-VSTA BIOS upgrade warning - forcedeth fails

2007-07-25 Thread William Cooper
Hello all, just a heads up on a problem I had. I build a small Debian Stable i386 media server on a Asrock K8NF6G-VSTA motherboard running BIOS version P1.2, everything worked well, until i flashed the BIOS up to version 1.6. That's when the forcedeth driver began complaining about bad MAC

Re: getting nforce4 NIC to work with forcedeth driver.

2006-09-14 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Ramesh wrote: wondering if things have changed and I should try getting new image. Or something is specifically wrong with my MB that prevents forcedeth to work properly Possibly you can try out compiling the 2.6.17.13 kernel with the NIC driver built-in. Pulling in the netinst iso

Re: getting nforce4 NIC to work with forcedeth driver.

2006-09-14 Thread Wackojacko
Ragu apologies for the off list communication, redirected to list. Raghavendra Bhat wrote: Ramesh wrote: wondering if things have changed and I should try getting new image. Or something is specifically wrong with my MB that prevents forcedeth to work properly Possibly you can try out

getting nforce4 NIC to work with forcedeth driver.

2006-09-13 Thread Ramasubramanian Ramesh
I have a Biostar T6100+amd64 setup and I tried netinst image for amd64 about a month ago and it could not get the nforce4 NIC to work. It will identify load the forcedeth driver but nothing would happen after that. I can see eth0 but it would not get address from dhcp server. Even if I assign

forcedeth: too many iterations [...] in nv_nic_irq

2006-08-23 Thread Dave Ewart
I've been seeing the error: Aug 18 21:24:59 titan kernel: eth-gig1: too many iterations (6) in nv_nic_irq. in the logs when there is heavy network traffic on my Sarge/amd64 system. The error is produced by the kernel module forcedeth for the on-board gigabit ethernet controller. Suggestions

Re: forcedeth: too many iterations [...] in nv_nic_irq

2006-08-23 Thread Dave Ewart
forcedeth for the on-board gigabit ethernet controller. Suggestions I've found through googling indicate using the 'max_interrupt_work' module parameter and setting it to a larger value, rather than the default 5. I've done this, and setting it to 15 results in similar errors: Aug 22 21

forcedeth Netzwerktreiber und Kernel 2.6.17.x Problem.

2006-07-29 Thread Markus Schulz
Jemand ähnliches beobachtet und eventuell Workarounds parat? Hat jemand mit einer NForce4-Ultra Chipsatz forcedeth Karte keine derartigen Probleme mit der 17er Reihe? -- Markus Schulz meine Spülmaschine heißt Nicole und arbeitet autonom... ansprechendes ergonomisches 3D-UI, sprachgesteuert

Re: Nforce, (Forcedeth)

2006-07-23 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Popp wrote: Hallo Warum wird der Nforce Treiber nicht als Debianpaket angeboten? Gerade die Netzwerkkarte macht immer wieder Probleme. Sie soll ja mit dem Forcedeth Treiber funktionieren, es klappt aber nicht immer. Ich rede nicht

Re: Nforce, (Forcedeth)

2006-07-23 Thread Patrick Cornelißen
Matthias Popp schrieb: Sogar im 2.6.8. nur das Problem ist er funktioniert nicht immer, gerade mit Kernel 2.6.12 gehabt, aber selbst die aktuellsten Kernel funktionieren manchmal nicht. Ich habe es mit einem 2.6.15 oder .16'er Kernel zum laufen gebracht. Sogar FAI funktioniert damit

Re: FATAL: Module off not found. bei forcedeth und snd_intel8x0

2006-07-22 Thread Christian Frommeyer
Am Freitag 21 Juli 2006 14:29 schrieb David Burau: ich versuche von den nvidia-Treiber zurück zu den normalen Treiberen zu kommen. Kernel ist 2.6.13 und Chipsatz nForce 4 Ultra. Leider kommt aber immer wenn ich die Modules forcedeth oder snd_intel8x0 versuch zu laden. Die Fehlermeldung: FATAL

Nforce, (Forcedeth)

2006-07-22 Thread Matthias Popp
Hallo Warum wird der Nforce Treiber nicht als Debianpaket angeboten? Gerade die Netzwerkkarte macht immer wieder Probleme. Sie soll ja mit dem Forcedeth Treiber funktionieren, es klappt aber nicht immer. Ich rede nicht von dem Deb für die Grafikkarte. -- with best regards from Dortmund

Re: Nforce, (Forcedeth)

2006-07-22 Thread Stefan Bauer
Matthias Popp schrieb: Hallo Warum wird der Nforce Treiber nicht als Debianpaket angeboten? Gerade die Netzwerkkarte macht immer wieder Probleme. Sie soll ja mit dem Forcedeth Treiber funktionieren, es klappt aber nicht immer. Ich rede nicht von dem Deb für die Grafikkarte. soweit ich

Re: Nforce, (Forcedeth)

2006-07-22 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 22.07.06 14:28:36, Matthias Popp wrote: Warum wird der Nforce Treiber nicht als Debianpaket angeboten? Gerade die Netzwerkkarte macht immer wieder Probleme. Sie soll ja mit dem Forcedeth Treiber funktionieren, es klappt aber nicht immer. Das kann mind. 2 Gruende geben: 1. Niemand hat

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