Re: More, Re: This is weird (cross-posted to Tomcat and Debian Lists): Tomcat 8.5 is going to /var/lib/tomcat7/webapps/ROOT

2017-09-07 Thread David Wright
On Thu 07 Sep 2017 at 16:13:37 (-0700), James H. H. Lampert wrote: > If I remember right, Linux file systems can have not only symbolic > links to files, but also multiple hard links to the same file. Is > there an easy way to look for something like that? find -type f ! -links 1 -exec ls -l {}

Still more, Re: This is weird (cross-posted to Tomcat and Debian Lists): Tomcat 8.5 is going to /var/lib/tomcat7/webapps/ROOT

2017-09-07 Thread James H. H. Lampert
I also stuck a similar named trivial static context into /var/lib/tomcat7/webapps (with a different directory name: "foobar" in Tomcat 8, "bozbar" in Tomcat 7). In theory, Tomcat 8.5 should be able to see the foobar context, but not the bozbar context; this is also true in practice. So it's

More, Re: This is weird (cross-posted to Tomcat and Debian Lists): Tomcat 8.5 is going to /var/lib/tomcat7/webapps/ROOT

2017-09-07 Thread James H. H. Lampert
Just for grins, I put a trivial static context (nothing more than a directory containing a simple "index.html" file) into /var/lib/tomcat8/webapps. Tomcat 8.5 found it. So it's only the root context that's somehow getting redirected. But on the other hand, if I rename var/lib/tomcat7/webapps/R

Re: This is weird (cross-posted to Tomcat and Debian Lists): Tomcat 8.5 is going to /var/lib/tomcat7/webapps/ROOT

2017-09-07 Thread deloptes
James H. H. Lampert wrote: > Pete Helgren (on the Tomcat List) wrote: >> Longshotsomething in .profile of the user the Tomcat instance is >> running under? > > Neither the "tomcat7" nor "tomcat8" users have .profile files. > > This is interesting. I got rid of the Tomcat 8.5 catalina.out fil

Re: This is weird (cross-posted to Tomcat and Debian Lists): Tomcat 8.5 is going to /var/lib/tomcat7/webapps/ROOT

2017-09-07 Thread James H. H. Lampert
Pete Helgren (on the Tomcat List) wrote: Longshotsomething in .profile of the user the Tomcat instance is running under? Neither the "tomcat7" nor "tomcat8" users have .profile files. This is interesting. I got rid of the Tomcat 8.5 catalina.out files on both boxes (the one where everythi

This is weird (cross-posted to Tomcat and Debian Lists): Tomcat 8.5 is going to /var/lib/tomcat7/webapps/ROOT

2017-09-07 Thread James H. H. Lampert
I've got two separate boxes, both running Debian Jessie, with both Tomcat 7.0.56 and Tomcat 8.5.14 installed, all of the installations via an apt-get from Debian's repositories. On one of the boxes (Tomcat 8.5 installed alongside Tomcat 7 with no previous Tomcat 8), Tomat 8 is somehow pulling

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 8/28/17, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 August 2017 10:22:48 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > >> On 8/28/17, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: >> >> > X-Spam-Status contains LDOSUBSCRIBER for you, me, and everyone >> >> > that's on the list. Like this: [...] >> > >> > I jus

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Reco wrote: > Due to the way GMail is broken I don't see any vaild headers in my own > replies to the list of course. Yours is X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.9 required=4.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FREEMAIL_FROM,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST, RCVD_IN_DN

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 09:20:16 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 August 2017 09:11:01 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > > > On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: > > > Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > > >> I have to admit that I do not know what specific header you are > > >> talking abou

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 August 2017 10:22:48 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/28/17, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: > >> > X-Spam-Status contains LDOSUBSCRIBER for you, me, and everyone > >> > that's on the list. Like this: [...] > > > > I just looked at my copy, it did not contain th

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 28/08/17 09:18, Fungi4All wrote: > Are you suggesting someone should read 4856 pages of manuals > before they install Debian, let alone ask a "dumb question"? No, you can learn as you need it. I know that manuals are long and tedious. I do not expect you to read it all before asking, but I exp

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 27/08/17 18:15, Ben Finney wrote: > Mario Castelán Castro writes: > >> I assumed originally that this was a person who subscribed then >> realized he did not want to be subscribed and decided to complain to >> the list about that. > > Even on that assumption, there is no call to insult the pe

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: > Mario Castelán Castro wrote: >> I have to admit that I do not know what specific header you are talking >> about. >> >> I was not aware that this mailing list was used in “From:” spoofing. > > X-Spam-Status contains LDOSUBSCRIBER for you, me, and everyone that's >

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 8/28/17, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: >> > >> > X-Spam-Status contains LDOSUBSCRIBER for you, me, and everyone >> > that's on the list. Like this: [...] > > I just looked at my copy, it did not contain that string in > x-spam-status. I'm in usual in-the-moment cogni

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Fungi4All
From: marioxcc...@yandex.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On 27/08/17 18:15, Ben Finney wrote: >> Mario Castelán Castro writes: >> >>> I assumed originally that this was a person who subscribed then >>> realized he did not want to be subscribed and decided to complain to >>> the list ab

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 August 2017 09:11:01 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: > > Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > >> I have to admit that I do not know what specific header you are > >> talking about. > >> > >> I was not aware that this mailing list was used in “From:” > >> spoof

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 15:02:30 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 27/08/17 14:03, Reco wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 11:17:09 -0500 > > Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > >> Then why did you subscribe to this mailing list in the first place? > > > > He did not (e-mail headers show

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-27 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, August 27, 2017 07:15:23 PM Ben Finney wrote: > Mario Castelán Castro writes: > > I assumed originally that this was a person who subscribed then > > realized he did not want to be subscribed and decided to complain to > > the list about that. > > Even on that assumption, there is no c

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-27 Thread Ben Finney
Mario Castelán Castro writes: > I assumed originally that this was a person who subscribed then > realized he did not want to be subscribed and decided to complain to > the list about that. Even on that assumption, there is no call to insult the person. No-one is born knowing how to operate a ma

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 27 August 2017 11:56:58 Paul Farou wrote: > I am receiving unwanted mail from you please get me off these lists! > > Paul FAROU If you look at the headers of this message, it will contain a "List-Unsubscribe" url, which if fed to your browser, will take you to t

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-27 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 27/08/17 14:03, Reco wrote: > On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 11:17:09 -0500 > Mario Castelán Castro wrote: >> Then why did you subscribe to this mailing list in the first place? > > He did not (e-mail headers show that clearly). He's probably yet another > victim of this month spam attack which fakes Fro

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-27 Thread Curt
On 2017-08-27, Reco wrote: > On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 11:17:09 -0500 > Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > >> On 27/08/17 10:56, Paul Farou wrote: >> > I am receiving unwanted mail from you please get me off these lists! >> >> Then why did you subscribe to this mailing

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-27 Thread Reco
On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 11:17:09 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 27/08/17 10:56, Paul Farou wrote: > > I am receiving unwanted mail from you please get me off these lists! > > Then why did you subscribe to this mailing list in the first place? He did not (e-mail headers sh

Re: Resign me from your lists

2017-08-27 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 27/08/17 10:56, Paul Farou wrote: > I am receiving unwanted mail from you please get me off these lists! Then why did you subscribe to this mailing list in the first place? Are you stupid? To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with subject “unsubscr

Resign me from your lists

2017-08-27 Thread Paul Farou
I am receiving unwanted mail from you please get me off these lists! Paul FAROU

HSTS preload lists in Debian's Chromium, Firefox, and IceCat packages

2017-07-10 Thread Sam Kuper
Have I found a bug in Debian Jessie's package for Chromium? ## Preamble IIUC, both Chromium and Mozilla Firefox ship with a list of domains with which they will never communicate via HTTP, always preferring to use HTTPS instead. These lists are based upon Google Chrome's "HSTS P

Re: Spam on Debian lists

2017-04-22 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 21 April 2017 at 03:11, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 4/20/17, Ben Finney wrote: > > Patrick Bartek writes: > > > >> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:40:56 +0200 Jochen Spieker > >> wrote: > >> > >> > fc: > >> > > Why not just restrict it to people who have subscribed? > >> > > >> > Because this exclu

Re: Spam on Debian lists

2017-04-21 Thread Dan Norton
s all of the almost 300 Debian lists¹ with thousands of posts each day. I see these types of things come through periodically -- and 1 delete on the front end could prevent a lot of woe. Your help is appreciated: https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam Obviously, this only affect

Re: Spam on Debian lists (was: Actually)

2017-04-21 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 02:52:39PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:40:56 +0200 Jochen Spieker > wrote: > > > fc: > > > > > > Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? > > > > You have no idea *how much*

Re: Spam on Debian lists

2017-04-20 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 4/20/17, Ben Finney wrote: > Patrick Bartek writes: > >> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:40:56 +0200 Jochen Spieker >> wrote: >> >> > fc: >> > > Why not just restrict it to people who have subscribed? >> > >> > Because this excludes use cases that are deemed valid by the list >> > masters. >> >> Like

Re: Spam on Debian lists

2017-04-20 Thread Ben Finney
Patrick Bartek writes: > On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:40:56 +0200 Jochen Spieker > wrote: > > > fc: > > > Why not just restrict it to people who have subscribed? > > > > Because this excludes use cases that are deemed valid by the list > > masters. > > Like what? I can't speak for the list masters,

Re: Spam on Debian lists

2017-04-20 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
>>> You have no idea *how much* spam is blocked by the work of the list >>> masters. But it's not that anybody monitors all of the almost 300 >>> Debian lists¹ with thousands of posts each day. >>> >>> > I see these types of things come thro

Re: Spam on Debian lists

2017-04-20 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
gt; masters. But it's not that anybody monitors all of the almost 300 >> Debian lists¹ with thousands of posts each day. >> >> > I see these types of things come through periodically -- and 1 >> > delete on the front end could prevent a lot of woe. >&g

Re: Spam on Debian lists (was: Actually)

2017-04-20 Thread Joel Rees
by the work of the list >> masters. But it's not that anybody monitors all of the almost 300 >> Debian lists¹ with thousands of posts each day. >> >> > I see these types of things come through periodically -- and 1 >> > delete on the front end could

Re: Spam on Debian lists (was: Actually)

2017-04-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:40:56 +0200 Jochen Spieker wrote: > fc: > > > > Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? > > You have no idea *how much* spam is blocked by the work of the list > masters. But it's not that anybody monitors all of

Re: Spam on Debian lists (was: Actually)

2017-04-20 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 20 April 2017 at 21:40, Jochen Spieker wrote: > fc: > > > > Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? > > You have no idea *how much* spam is blocked by the work of the list > masters. But it's not that anybody monitors all of the al

Spam on Debian lists (was: Actually)

2017-04-20 Thread Jochen Spieker
fc: > > Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? You have no idea *how much* spam is blocked by the work of the list masters. But it's not that anybody monitors all of the almost 300 Debian lists¹ with thousands of posts each day. > I see these types

Re: Sid/Testing, apt error "Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial..

2017-01-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 01/22/2017 06:06 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: I'm getting this on a few of my system while updating apt, "Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_non-free_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz Hash Sum mismatch Hashes of expected file: - Filesize:

Sid/Testing, apt error "Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial..

2017-01-22 Thread Jimmy Johnson
I'm getting this on a few of my system while updating apt, "Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_non-free_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz Hash Sum mismatch Hashes of expected file: - Filesize:1024 [weak]

Sis/Testing, apt error "Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial..

2017-01-22 Thread Jimmy Johnson
I'm getting this on a few of my system while updating apt, "Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_non-free_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz Hash Sum mismatch Hashes of expected file: - Filesize:1024 [weak]

IBM MQ users lists

2016-10-05 Thread Cheryl Walker
Hi, A Quick Follow up to you that if you are interested in IBM MQ users list which can help you to grow up your business campaigns? We have other organization users like: SQL Server Integration Services, webMethods, Talend Data Integration, Informatica PowerCenter, MuleSoft ESB, IBM

GIMP mailing lists - was: Re: [Gimp-user] Next gotcha

2016-07-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 23 July 2016 10:01:37 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 23 July 2016 02:36:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Very frustrating that > > apparently no one on this list is enough smarter about this that they > > can assist me. > > Is there a GIMP list, and have you tried it?? To answer my own que

Best use of program 'debfoster' to back-up package lists and packages?

2016-04-07 Thread Tom Browder
I am in the process of reinstalling Debian 8 after my desktop died, and want to make sure I keep a list of packages installed. Following various debian threads I'm going to do this: # dpkg --get-selections "*" > /backup/dpkg-get/selections # apt-key exportall > /backup/repositories.keys and afte

Re: replacement for old /etc/mtab that lists only real filesystems like ext4 or fat

2016-02-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-02-11, Felix Miata wrote: > Jan Gregor composed on 2016-02-11 22:25 (UTC+0100): > >> I used /etc/mtab to list mounted filesystems with their mount options. >> Unfortunatelly /etc/mtab no longer exists in debian jessie, it is just >> symlink to /proc/mounts that

Re: Re: replacement for old /etc/mtab that lists only real filesystems like ext4 or fat

2016-02-12 Thread Clive Standbridge
> > I used /etc/mtab to list mounted filesystems with their mount > > options. > > Unfortunatelly /etc/mtab no longer exists in debian jessie, it is > > just > > symlink to /proc/mounts that lists 31 filesystems and I want to see > > just 2 > > &

Re: replacement for old /etc/mtab that lists only real filesystems like ext4 or fat

2016-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Thu 11 Feb 2016 at 23:45:45 (+0100), jdd wrote: > Le 11/02/2016 22:47, Martin Read a écrit : > > >mount -t ext4,fat,btrfs Notwithstanding the Subject line, I'd have thought vfat might be more useful than fat. fat might work with grep, but I haven't mounted a real fat for a decade or more. > >

Re: replacement for old /etc/mtab that lists only real filesystems like ext4 or fat

2016-02-11 Thread jdd
Le 11/02/2016 22:47, Martin Read a écrit : mount -t ext4,fat,btrfs (no spaces in the list, and no paths or anything) works nicely. but list all the btrfs subvolumes :-( jdd

Re: replacement for old /etc/mtab that lists only real filesystems like ext4 or fat

2016-02-11 Thread Martin Read
On 11/02/16 21:25, Jan Gregor wrote: Hello, I used /etc/mtab to list mounted filesystems with their mount options. Unfortunatelly /etc/mtab no longer exists in debian jessie, it is just symlink to /proc/mounts that lists 31 filesystems and I want to see just 2 :-) classic filesystems like

Re: replacement for old /etc/mtab that lists only real filesystems like ext4 or fat

2016-02-11 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 11 February 2016 22:25:31 Jan Gregor wrote: > Hello, > > I used /etc/mtab to list mounted filesystems with their mount options. > Unfortunatelly /etc/mtab no longer exists in debian jessie, it is just > symlink to /proc/mounts that lists 31 filesystems and I wan

Re: replacement for old /etc/mtab that lists only real filesystems like ext4 or fat

2016-02-11 Thread Felix Miata
Jan Gregor composed on 2016-02-11 22:25 (UTC+0100): > I used /etc/mtab to list mounted filesystems with their mount options. > Unfortunatelly /etc/mtab no longer exists in debian jessie, it is just > symlink to /proc/mounts that lists 31 filesystems and I want to see just 2 >

replacement for old /etc/mtab that lists only real filesystems like ext4 or fat

2016-02-11 Thread Jan Gregor
Hello, I used /etc/mtab to list mounted filesystems with their mount options. Unfortunatelly /etc/mtab no longer exists in debian jessie, it is just symlink to /proc/mounts that lists 31 filesystems and I want to see just 2 :-) classic filesystems like ext4, fat, btrfs only. Thanks, Jan

mailman: no outgoing mail, no mail accepted for lists

2016-02-09 Thread Mart van de Wege
Hi, I just installed mailman+postfix, and followed the instructions in /etc/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py to what I think was the letter. And yet, when I create a list and add myself as a member, I get no mail. When I try to send mail to the test list, I get a 'User unknown in relay recipient ta

Re: aptitude loses the lists after "update"ing while offline

2015-10-27 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/27/15, Stefan Monnier wrote: > If I do > >aptitude update > > while my proxy is down (or when I'm offline), the previous package lists > are apparently gone, so after that, any aptitude command will tell me > things like: > ># aptitude install fo

aptitude loses the lists after "update"ing while offline

2015-10-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
If I do aptitude update while my proxy is down (or when I'm offline), the previous package lists are apparently gone, so after that, any aptitude command will tell me things like: # aptitude install foo E: The value 'testing' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as suc

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-21 Thread Joel Rees
One comment to the thread subject, rather than to any particular post. We would do well to remember that trying to participate in a mailing list or a newsgroup with an MUA is an inherent contradiction in purpose. Put another way, ordinary e-mail and postings to newsgroups and mailing lists are

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:37:40PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > > I owe you a $BEVERAGE of your choice (whithin reasonable bounds ;-) -- so > > if you run into me in one of the usual conferences, go ahead! > > Thank you! I accept. Fortunately

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 16:35:03 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:39:13AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 19 October 2015 07:57:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > > > be changed. I'm just advocating

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:39:13AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 19 October 2015 07:57:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with th

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 09:44:56 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:57:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > > CoC (especially this

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:57:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's all. As in a a

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 07:57:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's all. Hallelujah! Thank

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:41:38PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 21:17:46 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > You have to refine your filters a bit, but it's definitely possible. > > I know it is, but not with a simple three or fo

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 08:28:16 Joe wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:47:02 +1300 > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > tomas said: > > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky > > > > about *not* bein

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 19 October 2015 07:47:53 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 04:47:02PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > tomas said: > > > > Yes, you are right abou

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Joe
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:47:02 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > tomas said: > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky > > > about *not* being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do > > > his/he

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 October 2015 20:21:49 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:10:56PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 18 October 2015 19:55:58 Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 04:47:02PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > tomas said: > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky about > > > *not* > > > bein

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > tomas said: > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky about > > *not* > > being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do his/her part and express > > this wish with the headers in use for this pur

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Brian
On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 21:17:46 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 07:55:58PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > > > I'd also like the copy to t

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:10:56PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 18 October 2015 19:55:58 Brian wrote: > > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] >

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 07:55:58PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > I'd also like the copy to the list to land in my list f

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 October 2015 19:55:58 Brian wrote: > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > I'd also like the copy to the list to land in my list folder, not be > > > discarded. > > > > The ultimate feature is

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Brian
On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > I'd also like the copy to the list to land in my list folder, not be > > discarded. > > The ultimate feature is just a duplicate filter (a couple of lines of > procm

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 18 October 2015 16:04:47 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > With a sensible mail reader, the responder just > > has to choose "respond to list" and all is well. > > Yes. That is not th

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 October 2015 16:04:47 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > With a sensible mail reader, the responder just > has to choose "respond to list" and all is well. Yes. That is not the problem. The problem is responders who *deliberately* don't respond to list. You claim to know how to set one's

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 01:07:45PM +0300, Reco wrote: [Mail-Followup-T] > True. The only problem is - this very e-mail I'm replying to does not > contain Mail-Followup-To nor Followup-To :) Without a doubt it must be > related to your mutt or postfix

Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 08:27:21 +0200 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:54:27PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > [...] > > We are seriously off-topic by now. I'd propose to take this off-list. > It has been hashed out to death numerous time

Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:54:27PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] We are seriously off-topic by now. I'd propose to take this off-list. It has been hashed out to death numerous times and the result has always been well, duh, opinions differ. > You mean *t

automating apt-get, was Re: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition

2015-09-04 Thread David Wright
rtially helped; it did not > >> clear /var/lib/apt/lists/partial, although running apt-get update did > >> clear it. It then soon started filling up again. > >> > >> It would appear that apt-get update is being run automatically; I'm > >> happy fo

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition [SOLVED]

2015-09-04 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/4/15, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > Related to your previous reply about "provided it works properly", > maybe someone here with the knowledge of how it's done can tip you on > setting up a report that's automatically generated when update runs. > That's surely a possibility, and that way you'd

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition [SOLVED]

2015-09-04 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/4/15, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 01/09/15 17:47, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> >> Thanks to all three for very helpful replies. >> >> Unfortunately Elimar's suggestion only partially helped; it did not >> clear /var/lib/apt/lists/partial, although runni

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition [SOLVED]

2015-09-04 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 01/09/15 17:47, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 01/09/15 16:43, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: >> On 9/1/15, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: >>> * Tony van der Hoff [2015-09-01 14:17 +0200]: >>> >>>> On this jessie box I have started to see /var/lib/apt/lists/partia

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition

2015-09-01 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Tony van der Hoff [2015-09-01 17:47 +0200]: [...] [...] > Running apt-get update manually showed an error: > Err http://ftp.uk.debian.org jessie-backports/non-free amd64 Packages > and the directory started filling. deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian jessie-backports non-free works flawlesl

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition

2015-09-01 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 01/09/15 16:43, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 9/1/15, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: >> * Tony van der Hoff [2015-09-01 14:17 +0200]: >> >>> On this jessie box I have started to see /var/lib/apt/lists/partial >>> gradually filling the entire 2.7 GiB /var partit

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition

2015-09-01 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/1/15, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Tony van der Hoff [2015-09-01 14:17 +0200]: > >> On this jessie box I have started to see /var/lib/apt/lists/partial >> gradually filling the entire 2.7 GiB /var partition with hundreds of >> smallish files. Google show some result

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition

2015-09-01 Thread David Wright
Quoting Elimar Riesebieter (riese...@lxtec.de): > * Tony van der Hoff [2015-09-01 14:17 +0200]: > > > On this jessie box I have started to see /var/lib/apt/lists/partial > > gradually filling the entire 2.7 GiB /var partition with hundreds of > > smallish files. Google

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition

2015-09-01 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Tony van der Hoff [2015-09-01 14:17 +0200]: > On this jessie box I have started to see /var/lib/apt/lists/partial > gradually filling the entire 2.7 GiB /var partition with hundreds of > smallish files. Google show some results for a similar, but not > identical problem for Ubuntu

/var/lib/apt/lists/partial fills entire partition

2015-09-01 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On this jessie box I have started to see /var/lib/apt/lists/partial gradually filling the entire 2.7 GiB /var partition with hundreds of smallish files. Google show some results for a similar, but not identical problem for Ubuntu but I can't find anything matching this. This problem has deve

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
et. > > Yes, I think that's the way to go. People are far more likely to adopt a > ready-to-deploy solution than a theoretical proposal. But I'm > interesting in hearing more opinions first. > > > You could set up several servers/accounts > > That is not needed

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-11 Thread softwatt
ely to adopt a ready-to-deploy solution than a theoretical proposal. But I'm interesting in hearing more opinions first. > You could set up several servers/accounts That is not needed. Different lists can simply be different folders of the same account. IMAP supports ignoring / subscribi

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
with this I would suggest you just do it. If some Debian Developer finds your idea interesting you could even get a domain like imap.debian.net. You could set up several servers/accounts: lists@imap.d.n @alioth.imap.d.n @bugs.imap.d.n (for people that want to follow individual bugs only, since

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 10 Oct 14:56 -0500, softwatt wrote: > On 10/10/2014 10:26 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: > >> > My "thanks" was not threaded correctly. Sorry. > > It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the > > list archive. Might be

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 10:26 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: >> > My "thanks" was not threaded correctly. Sorry. > It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the > list archive. Might be an issue with your MUA. Mutt seems smarter than the nor

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: > My "thanks" was not threaded correctly. Sorry. It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the list archive. Might be an issue with your MUA. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
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Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 10:10 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Miles Fidelman wrote: >> Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: >>> On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read thi

debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. B

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum (attn. Jerry)

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the n

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum (attn. Jerry)

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the net is scarce and I don

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the net is scarce and I don't know where to begin

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