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Sorry to drag up this old relic, Steve - did your investigation yield anything useful? Mail is a complicated subject so I'm keen to hear about the conclusion of issues like this. On 15 December 2015 at 23:14, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 15 December 2015 19:29:50 Brian

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2015, Steve Kleene wrote: Thank you very much to all of you who posted or wrote with helpful and useful suggestions. I think a little acknowledgement of the contribution of those of us who can no longer be seduced or cajoled into being "helpful and useful" would be in order.

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 18:55:54 +, Lee Fuller wrote: > Sorry to drag up this old relic, Steve - did your investigation yield > anything useful? > > Mail is a complicated subject so I'm keen to hear about the conclusion of > issues like this. > > On 15 December 2015 at 23:14,

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Yay. Cheers for the info. Sorry I missed the original resolution. On 23/12/15 20:45, Steve Kleene wrote: > On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 18:55:54 +, Lee Fuller wrote: > >> Sorry to drag up this old relic, Steve - did your investigation yield >> anything useful? >> >> Mail is a

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 12:42:23 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2015, Steve Kleene wrote: > > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the > > debian-user mailing list. I understand why. > [...] > > Do any of you know of another administrator or

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On Sun, 13 Dec 2015, Steve Kleene wrote: > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the > debian-user mailing list. I understand why. [...] > Do any of you know of another administrator or ombudsman who might actually > respond? We responded on the 8th and told you to

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On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: Now, what do you prefer: being plonked or being ordered to do things? Being plonked. Any day. Feel free to plonk me any time. But issuing orders is likely to get an adverse reaction. Agreed, Bob? Absolutely! Mais certainement! In short, nobody

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On Tue 15 Dec 2015 at 11:49:49 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > >>Now, what do you prefer: being plonked or being ordered to do things? > > > >Being plonked. Any day. Feel free to plonk me any time. But issuing > >orders is likely to get an adverse

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On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 09:49:13AM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Dan Ritter wrote: > > >Plonk*. > > Sigh. Another satisfied customer. > > >* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_(Usenet) > > FWIW, I didn't need the wikipedia reference. I've been plonked in classier > joints

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On Tuesday 15 December 2015 07:17:20 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 09:49:13AM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Dan Ritter wrote: > > >Plonk*. > > > > Sigh. Another satisfied customer. > > > > >*

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On Tuesday 15 December 2015 10:50:55 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:00:40AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 December 2015 07:15:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > Since I'm not a native English speaker,

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On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:33:18 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 15 December 2015 10:50:55 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Since when could one extrapolate from one language to another??! > > > > I have to do this all the time. > > Well, you shouldn't. Languages don't

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On Tuesday 15 December 2015 07:15:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 03:06:48PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 14 December 2015 13:54:09 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > >Woah. Calm down a bit. > > > > > > > > That made

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:00:40AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 15 December 2015 07:15:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Since I'm not a native English speaker, I'll bow to your interpretation. > > Since when could one extrapolate from

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On Tuesday 15 December 2015 10:50:55 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Since when could one extrapolate from one language to another??! > > I have to do this all the time. Well, you shouldn't. Languages don't equate in that way. Lisi

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On Tuesday 15 December 2015 19:29:50 Brian wrote: > Just think, your response might have edged > him towards it. :) > > [Sorry - the first two words of the last sentence form an imperative]. :-)) Lisi

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On Tuesday 15 December 2015 19:29:50 Brian wrote: > Pestering us > appears to have its benefits. Just think, your response might have edged > him towards it. :) To be fair, Brian, it wasn't pestering us that was complained about, it was pestering the listmasters. "Pestering" us was the right

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tomas writes: > In the languages I know well imperative can express a strong wish as > well as it can express an order. True in english as well. It depends on context, though, and can easily be misinterpreted. On the other hand it's silly to take offense at what appears to be an "order" from

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 02:46:43AM +, Steve Kleene wrote: [...] > I am running mailto/sendmail from the command line, configured locally by > /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf. This file includes: > > DSsmtp.uc.edu > > This sets my employer's

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On 2015-12-13 17:18:32 GMT, I wrote: > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the > debian-user mailing list. I understand why. I took the address down for a > few days for reasons that are now irrelevant (but can be related if anyone > cares). Because mails from

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On Monday 14 December 2015 13:31:06 Steve Kleene wrote: > If I could have > gmail forwarded to an account on my local machine, that would work well. You can. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#settings/fwdandpop That may not work, if you have to be logged in to get access. Lisi

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On Monday 14 December 2015 13:54:09 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >Woah. Calm down a bit. > > > > That made you uncomfortable a little bit Tomas, huh? > > Most definitely, yes. > > >                                                       Please try to > > deal with it before issuing instructions to

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On 12/14/2015 10:06 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 14 December 2015 13:54:09 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: No idea how you could take as "instruction" what only could be meant as a "proposal", but there you go... It was in the imperative. "imperative ‎(countable and uncountable, plural

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 03:06:48PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 14 December 2015 13:54:09 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > >Woah. Calm down a bit. > > > > > > That made you uncomfortable a little bit Tomas, huh? > > > > Most definitely, yes. > >

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 09:49:13AM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Dan Ritter wrote: > > >Plonk*. > > Sigh. Another satisfied customer. > > >* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_(Usenet) > > FWIW, I didn't need the wikipedia

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Dan Ritter wrote: Plonk*. Sigh. Another satisfied customer. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_(Usenet) FWIW, I didn't need the wikipedia reference. I've been plonked in classier joints than this! -- Bob Bernstein

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:07:40 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 14/12/2015, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > You have two major choices, neither one of which is what you > > want to hear. > > > > 1. You can subscribe via some other address. GMail, Fastmail, >

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​Hey there, I checked your email address using basic telnet and a measurement tool. I identified the likely physicality of your mailbox to be Cincinnati, and the server connecting to you in these measurements is in Texas. I ran the test in a handful of arrangements but I repeated the general

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 09:07:50AM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >Woah. Calm down a bit. > > That made you uncomfortable a little bit Tomas, huh? Most definitely, yes. >

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On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 10:57:54PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Dear Dr. Kleene, > > Surely your neuroscience teaching, and other professional duties, at > UC and elsewhere keep you sufficiently busy so that you shouldn't > really have to pester Debian volunteers trying to keep the massive >

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Woah. Calm down a bit. That made you uncomfortable a little bit Tomas, huh? Please try to deal with it before issuing instructions to me. I'm not here for your comfort, iydm. -- Bob Bernstein

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:31:06 + (UTC) Steve Kleene wrote: > What I like about my existing setup is that all of my mail gets > deposited locally on my machine. I can read most (but no longer all) > of the text with a simple "mail" from the command line. This is the >

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On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 01:41:46PM +, Lee Fuller wrote: ​Hey there, I checked your email address using basic telnet and a measurement tool. I identified the likely physicality of your mailbox to be Cincinnati, and the server connecting to you in these measurements is in Texas. I ran the

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For reference, the default timeout in the current release of mailman is 30 seconds. https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DSA I believe DSA are responsible for the list server. - - Lee Fuller On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 01:41:46PM +, Lee Fuller wrote: > ​Hey there, > > I checked your email address

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Steve Kleene writes: > What I like about my existing setup is that all of my mail gets > deposited locally on my machine. I can read most (but no longer all) > of the text with a simple "mail" from the command line. This is the > easiest way to read and archive my mails in the style I've

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 10:57:54PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Dear Dr. Kleene, > > Surely your neuroscience teaching, and other professional duties, at > UC and elsewhere [...] Woah. Calm down a bit. regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP

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On 14/12/2015, Dan Ritter wrote: > > You have two major choices, neither one of which is what you > want to hear. > > 1. You can subscribe via some other address. GMail, Fastmail, > whatever. Let other people handle your mail for you, for money > or not. > Why not

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My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the debian-user mailing list. I understand why. I took the address down for a few days for reasons that are now irrelevant (but can be related if anyone cares). Because mails from lists.debian.org were bouncing, they unsubscribed

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On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote: > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the > debian-user mailing list. I understand why. I took the address down for a > few days for reasons that are now irrelevant (but can be related if anyone > cares).

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On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 06:57:31PM +, Steve Kleene wrote: > References: , > <201512131729.22307.lisi.re...@gmail.com> > > > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote: > > > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from

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References: , <201512131729.22307.lisi.re...@gmail.com> > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote: > > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the > > debian-user mailing list. I understand why. I took the address

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On Sun 13 Dec 2015 at 18:57:31 +, Steve Kleene wrote: > References: , > <201512131729.22307.lisi.re...@gmail.com> > > > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote: > > > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the >

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On Sun, 2015-12-13 at 17:18 +, Steve Kleene wrote: > Do any of you know of another administrator or ombudsman who might > actually > respond? Thanks. You could try IRC: #debian-lists on irc.debian.org (OFTC) -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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On Sun 13 Dec 2015 at 18:57:31 +, Steve Kleene wrote: > References: , > <201512131729.22307.lisi.re...@gmail.com> > > > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote: > > > My address (sk...@syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the >

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On Sun 13 Dec 2015 at 14:19:16 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 06:57:31PM +, Steve Kleene wrote: > > References: , > > <201512131729.22307.lisi.re...@gmail.com> > > > > > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote: > > >

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On Monday 14 December 2015 02:46:43 Steve Kleene wrote: > On 2015-12-13 20:01:35 GMT, Brian cityscape.co.uk> wrote: > > On Sun 13 Dec 2015 at 18:57:31 +, Steve Kleene wrote: > > > > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote: > > > > > My address (skdeb syrano.acb.uc.edu) has

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Dear Dr. Kleene, Surely your neuroscience teaching, and other professional duties, at UC and elsewhere keep you sufficiently busy so that you shouldn't really have to pester Debian volunteers trying to keep the massive Debian mailing lists system up and running. You have what appears to be a

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On 2015-12-13 20:01:35 GMT, Brian cityscape.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun 13 Dec 2015 at 18:57:31 +, Steve Kleene wrote: > > > > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote: > > > > My address (skdeb syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed from the > > > > debian-user mailing list. I