Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-07 Thread David Wright
On Sat 06 Jan 2024 at 02:57:53 (-0600), Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2024 06 Jan 01:00 -0600, Max Nikulin wrote: > > US/Eastern & Co has been moved to tzdata-legacy as well. Currently used > > identifiers are based on cities: America/New_York. > > Ugghhh! > > I guess I'll be going to the legacy

manpages package [WAS Re: SOLVED FOR GENE:Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jan 06, 2024 at 01:17:13PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Try manpages.org . > -- > John Hasler > j...@sugarbit.com > Elmwood, WI USA > If you're on a Debian system, this should already be installed but otherwise apt-get install manpages Also - manpages.debian.org gives you a searchable

Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread gene heskett
On 1/6/24 12:07, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/01/2024 18:40, gene heskett wrote: Put all system clocks on UTC, and then /etc/timezone is the actual string specifying the local offset. No doubt some user confusion, but overall a lot simpler. I still do not see any connection with splitting a part

Re: SOLVED FOR GENE:Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread John Hasler
Try manpages.org . -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

SOLVED FOR GENE:Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread gene heskett
On 1/6/24 09:25, John Hasler wrote: The documentation for Chrony is: chrony.conf (5) - chronyd configuration file chronyc (1) - command-line interface for chrony daemon chronyd (8) - chrony daemon Also see /usr/share/doc/chrony . Don't use "pool" to sync to a single

Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/01/2024 18:40, gene heskett wrote: Put all system clocks on UTC, and then /etc/timezone is the actual string specifying the local offset. No doubt some user confusion, but overall a lot simpler. I still do not see any connection with splitting a part of files and links into another

Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jan 06, 2024 at 02:57:53AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > I really don't get the fascination with some city hundreds of miles > distant defining the time zone. Why Chicago for US/Central? There are > any number of cities in US/Central that could be referenced, but no, > pick the most

Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread John Hasler
The documentation for Chrony is: chrony.conf (5) - chronyd configuration file chronyc (1) - command-line interface for chrony daemon chronyd (8) - chrony daemon Also see /usr/share/doc/chrony . Don't use "pool" to sync to a single source. Use "server". man chrony.conf

Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread gene heskett
On 1/6/24 04:15, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2024 06 Jan 01:00 -0600, Max Nikulin wrote: US/Eastern & Co has been moved to tzdata-legacy as well. Currently used identifiers are based on cities: America/New_York. Ugghhh! I guess I'll be going to the legacy package then until

was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread gene heskett
On 1/6/24 01:18, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/01/2024 12:18, gene heskett wrote: On 1/5/24 23:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 09:01:29PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: tzdata (2023d-1) unstable; urgency=medium upstream backward file) were moved to tzdata-legacy. This

Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-06 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2024 06 Jan 01:00 -0600, Max Nikulin wrote: > US/Eastern & Co has been moved to tzdata-legacy as well. Currently used > identifiers are based on cities: America/New_York. Ugghhh! I guess I'll be going to the legacy package then until $WHOEVER_IS_IN_CHARGE issues a decree that it too shall

Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/01/2024 13:02, Max Nikulin wrote: The change affects those who rely on POSIX-like EST5EDT timezones or on obsolete ones like Europe/Kyiv (recently renamed from Europe/Kiev). Europe/Kiev (moved to tzdata-legacy) was renamed to Europe/Kyiv. Sorry for confusion. US/Eastern & Co has been

tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/01/2024 12:18, gene heskett wrote: On 1/5/24 23:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 09:01:29PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: tzdata (2023d-1) unstable; urgency=medium upstream backward file) were moved to tzdata-legacy. This includes the What's wrong with NTP, too