Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 18:09 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: I don't know how to tell. I could find no place to set the xfce window manager, and I didn't want to change something on the openbox settings and then restart X or Openbox, because I just have too many windows open and too much to do. If

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 26 May 2014 17:58:26 +1200 Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: On 26/05/14 10:09, Steve Litt wrote: If you know how to find out which window manager Xfce is using, please let me known I just ran ps xf (show my processes, in tree format) Then I looked at the descendents

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 May 2014 at 00:12:57 +0200, Filip wrote: You can mount/unmount in xfe. When you have plugged in a hotpluggable medium, it gets and entry under /media. If you right click on it, you have the mount/unmount option. What program does xfe use for mounting? It certainly doesn't do

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Filip
On Sun, 25 May 2014 20:00:33 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 25 May 2014 at 00:12:57 +0200, Filip wrote: You can mount/unmount in xfe. When you have plugged in a hotpluggable medium, it gets and entry under /media. If you right click on it, you have the mount/unmount

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 25 May 2014 21:38:14 +0200 Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2014 20:00:33 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 25 May 2014 at 00:12:57 +0200, Filip wrote: You can mount/unmount in xfe. When you have plugged in a hotpluggable medium, it gets and entry

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Filip
On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:49:27 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Yes. I downloaded and installed xfe, (admittedly, this was for my Ubuntu 13.10 box) and what I found is it doesn't show mountable drives like Thunar does, so you can't mount an arbitrary device from xfe. Also,

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Filip
On Sun, 25 May 2014 22:45:42 +0200 Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:49:27 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Yes. I downloaded and installed xfe, (admittedly, this was for my Ubuntu 13.10 box) and what I found is it doesn't show mountable drives like

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 May 2014 at 15:49:27 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2014 21:38:14 +0200 Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: In order to be able to mount from the command line as normal user, I already had the following entries in /etc/fstab. /dev/sr0/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 25 May 2014 23:05:35 +0200 Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2014 22:45:42 +0200 Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:49:27 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: The coredump must be an Ubuntu thing. I never had it coredump on me, neither

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread John Hasler
Steve Litt writes: If you know how to find out which window manager Xfce is using, please let me know Package: xfwm4 Version: 4.10.1-2 Installed-Size: 2777 Maintainer: Debian Xfce Maintainers pkg-xfce-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Architecture: amd64 Provides: x-window-manager Depends: libc6 (=

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Richard Hector
On 26/05/14 10:09, Steve Litt wrote: If you know how to find out which window manager Xfce is using, please let me known I just ran ps xf (show my processes, in tree format) Then I looked at the descendents of xfce4-session, and see that the first one is xfwm4. The 'wm' suggests that it's a

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:42:44 +0200 filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: Openbox works very well. It's not a complete desktop environment of course, just one component, so you will need to pick and choose the applications to make it a workable environment. Which is actually a good thing because the

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: feh to set the root window to a nice background image. I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m for my Debian's JWM. Perhaps Esetroot is obsolete. Did anybody already mention a terminal emulation? IMO a good terminal

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: I switch back from Xfce to Openbox What accessory apps that usually are part of a DE do you need? A nice calculator IMO is Galculator, but I didn't use it's scientific mode yet. If you're from an Europe contry whre the , vs .. Galculator

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
xfe Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400965744.816.16.camel@archlinux

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread briand
On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: xfe Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automounter for things like flash drives. any suggestions ? -- To

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:30 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: xfe Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Filip
On Sat, 24 May 2014 14:30:33 -0700 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: xfe Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Filip
On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: feh to set the root window to a nice background image. I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m for my Debian's JWM. Perhaps Esetroot is

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:27 +0200, Filip wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: feh to set the root window to a nice background image. I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 02:30:33PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: xfe Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:51:34AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:27 +0200, Filip wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: feh to set the root window to a nice

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote: The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very interested. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 21 mai 14, 18:10:30, Horatio Leragon wrote: Does fluxbox come with regular security updates? http://www.debian.org/security/faq Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote: The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very interested. Kind regards, Andrei Well, I mean, if lightness is your

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 23 mai 14, 10:08:56, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote: The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very interested.

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread filip
On Fri, 23 May 2014 10:08:56 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote: The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. If there is an even lighter weight DE than

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread David Dušanić
21.05.2014, 11:27, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com: Thanks Joe, David , Chirs and all . actually login screen step worked for me. even i am also trying xfce4. can i make gnome classic default loging environment? Yes, you can. Usually your display manager should take the last option you

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread David Dušanić
 If I remember correctly LXDE is going through a  transition to Qt. Maybe  the reason why? There were some intermittent issues with those menu options in xfce a little while ago but I thought they were related to lightdm/systemd issues. In any event it all seems to work fine now. Yes, it

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Yes, it is always is gnome 3 shell. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:55 PM, David Dušanić ivanovne...@gmail.comwrote: If I remember correctly LXDE is going through a transition to Qt. Maybe the reason why? There were some intermittent issues with those menu options in xfce a little

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread Linux-Fan
On 05/22/2014 03:10 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: From: Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:51 AM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. Just like any other package. # aptitude install fluxbox The very machine

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 21 May 2014 16:30:13 +1000 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the new look (unity type) i want the all time old menu gnome

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 22 May 2014 21:54:37 -0400 Steve Litt sent: On Wed, 21 May 2014 16:30:13 +1000 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/21/14, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the new look (unity type) i want the all time old menu gnome classic. how can i enable that. Basically, your options are: 1) Install XFCE desktop apt-cache show

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the new look (unity type) i want the all time old menu gnome classic. how can i enable that. I recommend installing Xfce, which is very

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gnome 3. are all gnome utilities will be available as well? like system

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in xfce, is it like a layer on the

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:57:29 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in xfce, is it like a layer on

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. btw i installed xfce4 and restarted the system however it again gave me the gnome 3 desktop. On Wed, May 21,

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread David Dušanić
21.05.2014, 07:54, "Muhammad Yousuf Khan" sir...@gmail.com:i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the new look ("unity" type) i want the all time old menu "gnome classic". how can i enable that.Thanks,Myk  Log out and choose Gnome Classic from the GDM drop down

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. btw i installed xfce4 and

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread David Dušanić
21.05.2014, 10:00, "Muhammad Yousuf Khan" sir...@gmail.com:do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. btw i installed xfce4 and restarted the system

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:47 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. btw i installed xfce4 and

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks Joe, David , Chirs and all . actually login screen step worked for me. even i am also trying xfce4. can i make gnome classic default loging environment? Thanks On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:47 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in xfce, is it like a layer on the top of

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Filip
On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 21 May 2014 14:05:55 +0200 Filip sent: I had the opposite reaction. I didn't instantly dislike it when it came it, and thought that the detractors where just too close minded to try out new improved interface concepts. After having used it for one and a half years however, I have

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/21/14, Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Filip
On Wed, 21 May 2014 22:31:18 +1000 Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 5/21/14, Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: thanks alot

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: debian debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. I recommend installing Xfce, which is very similar to GNOME 2 (and also happens

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com wrote: Does xfce come with a lot of bloated apps? I remember that gnome-core comes with plenty of bloated apps. I don't know that it does. A default Debian Jessie install brings with it a bunch of stuff like LibreOffice, but I

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Joe j...@jretrading.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. In Linux, a window manager will operate without a desktop environment, but this is a little too

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread John Bleichert
On 05/21/2014 11:16 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: *From:* Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com *To:* debian-user@lists.debian.org *Cc:* debian debian-user@lists.debian.org *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:30 PM *Subject:* Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. I recommend installing Xfce

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Linux-Fan
On 05/21/2014 05:20 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: From: Joe j...@jretrading.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. In Linux, a window manager will operate without a desktop environment

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 20:51 +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: On 05/21/2014 05:20 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: From: Joe j...@jretrading.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. In Linux, a window manager

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:12:58PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window.

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread John Bleichert
On 05/21/2014 05:25 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: snip I mentioned LXDE, but shutdown and reboot from menus haven't worked since November (sid), as there seems to be a systemd incompatibility. I got fed up calling up a terminal and entering a password to shutdown my single-user workstation after a

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 17:25:41 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:12:58PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: John Bleichert syb...@earthlink.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:24 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. No, it's pretty clean and very, very slim. Someone mentioned that it hasn't seen

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:51 AM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. Just like any other package. # aptitude install fluxbox The very machine from which I am

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:06 AM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. However, the version of JWM provided by the Debian repositories is already very

want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-20 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the new look (unity type) i want the all time old menu gnome classic. how can i enable that. Thanks, Myk