Re: 56K video link software?

2003-11-15 Thread David Selby
David Selby wrote: I have a relative who has moved out to Australia am interested in using a webcam 56K modem for a video link (I know the picture quality will be rough) Can anyone point me in the right direction for video link software ? Many thanks Dave Thanks for the help, I like the

Cable modem configuration -- DHCP? (was Re: internet)

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection?

OT yahoo messenger for Woody

2003-11-15 Thread David Selby
OK this is a bit OT but I am stuck. I am trying to get Yahoo messenger working on woody. Apparently the package is for woody. http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html I installed it with dpkg -i, it did not show any dependency problems, when I run it I get: [EMAIL

Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:57:46AM -0800, Martin J. Hillyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 05:16:33AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:21:45PM +, Clive Menzies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm intrigued. why would you want to do this? I

Re: internet

2003-11-15 Thread Christian Schnobrich
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:05, Ed and Pat Reilly wrote: HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection? Well, your mail lacks about every

Re: Escape sequences displaying in man pages

2003-11-15 Thread Curt Daugaard
Curt Daugaard wrote: Bill Marcum wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: Hi, I'm running unstable and use the most package as pager for man pages. After an upgrade the color output broke and I see instead the raw escape sequences. Running update-alternatives, I

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-15 Thread John Hasler
Colin Watson writes: Some people uninstall base-config after they're finished with the installation. However, I have not done so. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Kent West
Otto Wyss wrote: So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access) sudo will give you root access in Knoppix -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

alternative to mrproject (gnome project planner)

2003-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I wish to use a project program to manage my dissertation. I need to be able to create and update GANTT charts. 'mrproject' in unstable is fairly useful but has a few serious problems. Can anyone recommend a similar program? Thanks, -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To

Re: internet

2003-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly wrote: HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection? Is your cable modem

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Michael D Schleif
Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:11:15:09:15:22+0100] scribed: Hello John L. Fjellstad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. I do want system mail (cron, error messages, c.) to

Re: Cable modem configuration -- DHCP? (was Re: internet)

2003-11-15 Thread Kent West
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian to recognize my

Re: alternative to mrproject (gnome project planner)

2003-11-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Jonathan Dowland wrote: I wish to use a project program to manage my dissertation. I need to be able to create and update GANTT charts. 'mrproject' in unstable is fairly useful but has a few serious problems. Try www.taskjuggler.org. Debian packages are being produced

Re: Cable modem configuration -- DHCP? (was Re: internet)

2003-11-15 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian

Re: internet

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:20:04PM +0100, Christian Schnobrich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:05, Ed and Pat Reilly wrote: HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up.

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 06:04, David Palmer. wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:53:24 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) wrote: Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. So far I've tested

computer won't boot now

2003-11-15 Thread Daniel Edmund Davison
Hi, I was installing debian on a new laptop yesterday and, briefly, the computer now will not boot into anything - not Lilo (which I'd installed in the MBR and was choosing betweenn debian and Windows 2000) and not even the BIOS setup. If anyone could help me reverse this situation I would be

XFree will not run on Woody

2003-11-15 Thread James Hosken
I've just installed woody for the first time and I can't get X to run. It was surgested that I upgrade to xfree V4.2.1-6 from http://people.fsn.hu/~pasztor/debian I did that and still it will not run. I've tried running dpkg-recomfigure xserver-xfree86 xf86config Hardware: Matrox G550 card and a

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Haines Brown
From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems to me that the most successful would be those who can master the social needs (get good grades from approved testbooks, etc), while still being able to think outside the box. Ron, I can't give your remark the attention it deserves because this

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 22:23 Subject: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]] On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:07:01AM +, ben wrote: [snip]

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:14:38AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Since the US hasn't ratified the ICJ treaty, it can't happen, unless the Europeans come in (in force) and *take* GWB. (Ha ha ha ha ha.) First off, my advance

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:49:16PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: [1] Why we still have the criminally stupid concept of DST is beyond me...http://www.standardtime.com/ Brilliant! Wonder if there's a British version... -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here:

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Chema wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:07:49 + Pigeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P There's This Tribe (TM) who subsist by gathering vegetables and P spearing fish. They're not into agriculture for food... but they do P cultivate pot so they can get

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 08:09, ben wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:05:15 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:

Re: XFree will not run on Woody

2003-11-15 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello James Hosken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've just installed woody for the first time and I can't get X to run. It was surgested that I upgrade to xfree V4.2.1-6 from http://people.fsn.hu/~pasztor/debian I did that and still it will not run. I've tried running dpkg-recomfigure

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06, Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM

Re: kaffe and/or sablevm in mozilla?

2003-11-15 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:50:27AM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: jjluza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: like it is said in the doc, these packages (free implementation), make you to be able to compile and run java program. But they don't work to browse Internet and its java applets. You need a

Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!

2003-11-15 Thread Wayne Topa
Marc Wilson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 01:06:52AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: I installed -20.1 from the snapshot site, and now a2ps just outputs to stdout, independent of whether I set -d, -Plp, or just let it run (which usually just printed to

Re: ATI Radeon 9800 freezes after using X :1

2003-11-15 Thread TR
Is the last version of Xfree in sid supporting ati radeon 9800? Last I had checked it was not yet, so I have fireglx from the ati site running, which of course has created a lot of conflicts everytime that I run an update. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread TR
Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried? Holy crap! I would! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote: [snip very good points] The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people how to read just well enough so that

[OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:09:37 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:39:31 -0600, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:11 -0600, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: printing all of command executed in a script

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:05:21 +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:08:11AM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:47:37PM +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of commands executed in a shell script. 'set -x'

Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a affluent family walked into their High School armed with rifles and pistols. They proceed- ed to blow away those

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:29 +0100, Joan Tur wrote: I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of k3b... do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? The backend (that I read) it uses is already in Debian: dvd+rw-tools. It might also use a piece of software that will never

Debian sarge installation problems

2003-11-15 Thread Otto Wyss
I've 2 problems with the debian installation I need an immediate solution. First how can I reconfigure the keyboard so it uses the swiss keyboard instead of the US? Second, how can I force Debian not to use ide-scsi for reading from my CD-writer? In the current state ide-scsi isn't able to

Re: printing all of command executed in a script

2003-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:33:31PM +0800, csj wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:05:21 +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:08:11AM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:47:37PM +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of

Re: Installing modem.

2003-11-15 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: Aaron Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 01:42 Subject: Re: Installing modem. Alright, it doesn't look like we are getting very far, so I am going to throw in the way I would

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Alec Berryman
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:24, Kent West wrote: Otto Wyss wrote: So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access) sudo will give you root access in Knoppix You can grab a real root prompt with 'rootme'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 06:55, Pigeon wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:14:38AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Democracy will be preserved, but only for appearance. People can vote, but the elections will be rigged, with

LIVE LONGER with H-uman...G-rowth...H-ormone...katharine

2003-11-15 Thread Therese Mcallister
H-uman...G-rowth...H-ormone Therapy Overall deterioration of the body that comes with growing old is not inevitable.---Dr. Daniel Rudman's in the New England Journal of Medicine. Follow me to longer living: http://www.mmv9.org?affil=49 Scientific research and evidence overwhelmingly

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread moseley
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:27:28AM -0600, Michael D Schleif wrote: I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. Of course, now nothing is listening on port 25 ; Nevertheless, having exim installed on this

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 04:51, csj wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a affluent family walked into their High School armed with rifles and

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-15 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dissabte 15 Novembre 2003 12:14, en csj va escriure: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:29 +0100, Joan Tur wrote: I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of k3b... do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? The backend (that

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Jacob S.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0600 Michael D Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. Of course, now nothing is listening on port 25 ; snip Are you sure nothing's

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread John L. Fjellstad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, On Saturday 15 November 2003 09:15, Andreas Janssen wrote: In fact, exim doesn't have to be running at all to have local email delivered. Deinstalling however will cause dependency problems because packages like anacron, at, mailx and

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Jacob S.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:17:53 -0600 Jacob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0600 Michael D Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail.

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Jacob S. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0600 Michael D Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. Of course, now nothing is

Re: computer won't boot now

2003-11-15 Thread Kent West
Daniel Edmund Davison wrote: Hi, I was installing debian on a new laptop yesterday and, briefly, the computer now will not boot into anything - not Lilo (which I'd installed in the MBR and was choosing betweenn debian and Windows 2000) and not even the BIOS setup. If anyone could help me reverse

Re: Spamassassin, keep feeding messages for bayes?

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:12:08PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:19:01PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've set up a mailbox spam-learn where I dump any spam which slips past SA, and a cron job to

Apache VHOST Problem

2003-11-15 Thread Tanen
Hello, Im using apache 2.0, i have few website hosted on only two IP address, My problem is : I have Bind on my puter, who deliver the local dns of my local network, and i have apache 2.0. I have set up my apache, and it work fine, just now, where its shuting up ! I dont know why, but

devfs

2003-11-15 Thread Tom Allison
I was doing an installation using whatever disks I can find (stable, tesitng-installer) and I ran into a problem of something that I recall once long ago. I thought devfs was going to be mostly removed from the installations. This is based on a comment I received once long ago from a Debian

maybe I missed a thread

2003-11-15 Thread Tom Allison
I have been unsubscribed from 'debian-user' for a bit so I may have missed a thread on this one. But there has been a lot of discussion on other distro-lists about the potential implications concerning the recent announcements of RedHat/Fedora and SuSE/Novell. From the other lists, there's a

Re: No to wine! (was:Red Hat recommends...)

2003-11-15 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I was an avid OS/2 user at one time, until technology moved on and the logical switch for most OS/2 users was Linux. Your thoughts on using Win3.1 and OS/2 are interesting...except that Win3.1 was known to run better under OS/2. How very

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:53:24AM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access), There is access to

Could not load OpenGL library

2003-11-15 Thread Nathan
Sometime in the last few days my OpenGL (or SDL, I'm not sure) has stopped working. I use OpenGL primarily for gaming, so not having it hasn't killed me. The error message I get when starting up Unreal Tournament (and UT 2003) is: Opening SDL viewport. Bound to SDLGLDrv.so Loaded render device

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-15 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Robert Soricone wrote: A computer network, that is currently using RedHat, is interested in migrating to another distribution. Preferably, by April 30 2004. If the group were to consider moving to Debian, what in-house work would need to be performed that was previously being done by the RH

Re: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers

2003-11-15 Thread Tim Kelley
On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: Paying the occasional sysadmin bill might well come out to less than what these people spend on the software itself now. People cost a ton -- $100g + 30% for benefits. I use

Re: maybe I missed a thread

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 07:09, Tom Allison wrote: I have been unsubscribed from 'debian-user' for a bit so I may have missed a thread on this one. But there has been a lot of discussion on other distro-lists about the potential implications concerning the recent announcements of

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Otto Wyss wrote: Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? The recommended

Re: maybe I missed a thread

2003-11-15 Thread BruceG
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:01, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 07:09, Tom Allison wrote: I have been unsubscribed from 'debian-user' for a bit so I may have missed a thread on this one. But there has been a lot of discussion on other distro-lists about the potential

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote: compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about head up the ass. But talibans and islamists don't spend billions of dollars a year in weapons. Therefore the rest of the

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread David Palmer.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:09:56 + ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:05:15 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600,

Re: i keep getting e-mails from Mailer Daemon

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:10:37AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi.keep getting e-mails from a MAILER DAEMON, sayin that an e-mail that i sent out didnt go through, i looked in my mail sent box and it was full of Sent mail with a

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 13:17, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote: [snip] That is, the outcome was indeterminate. So anybody else who could have potentially been said to win would be equally illegitmate. It kind of sucks when you have a country without a

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote: compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about head up the ass. But talibans and islamists don't spend

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread David Palmer.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:52:43 -0500 TR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried? Holy crap! I would! Be afraid. Be very afraid. Regards David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:07:49PM +, Pigeon wrote: There's This Tribe (TM) who subsist by gathering vegetables and spearing fish. They're not into agriculture for food... but they do cultivate pot so they can get stoned while waiting for a

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread David Palmer.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:23:51 +0800 csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote: [snip very good points] The modern 'educational'

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:57:46PM +, Pigeon wrote: Drugs are bad 'couse are not good, m'kay?? And pot, pot is bad, m'kay?? ;-) ROFL, I've been trying not to post that myself :-) I think we all were thinking it before it was said. -

Re: [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread David Palmer.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:09:20 +0800 csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:09:37 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:39:31 -0600, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Saturday 15 November 2003 2:30 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote: compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:02, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 2:30 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote: compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are

Re: maybe I missed a thread

2003-11-15 Thread David Palmer.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:01:10 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 07:09, Tom Allison wrote: I have been unsubscribed from 'debian-user' for a bit so I may have missed a thread on this one. But there has been a lot of discussion on other distro-lists about

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:02:06PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 2:30 pm, Vikki Roemer wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:17:27PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 11:23 pm, Tom wrote: compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:19:10PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: Personally, I think the whole federal government system is corrupted and bloated and it needs to be totally redone from scratch. Unfortunately, I'm prolly looking at this like a hacker. :( The Federal government at least has the

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:51:41PM +0800, csj wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a affluent family walked into their High School armed with

Re: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers

2003-11-15 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:41:17PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote: On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: Paying the occasional sysadmin bill might well come out to less than what these people spend on the software itself

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian-User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:59 Subject: Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 04:51, csj wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: [1] For

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:51:41PM +0800, csj wrote: I have never owned a gun and I haven't shot anyone either. Cultural differences I guess. In most other countries, only war, crime and drug lords are allowed to own guns. It keeps the world a

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:54:58PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: I think we as a plant need to play a fun game. For one week, everybody ^ I think you've smoked a bit too much of the aforementioned weed Either that, or he

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:12:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: That movie's writer/director, Michael Moore, *hates* people who don't agree with him. So, if you watch the movie, remember that. Search Google News for Michael Moore Lars Larson to hear

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:22:52PM -0800, Tom wrote: Nothing would be learned by this experience. Just for the sheer, anarchic, nonsensical bizarness of it. Try it. It's fun. I tried that once, and I became a very thin Eric Cartman. - --

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-15 Thread Harshwardhan Nagaonkar
Roberto Sanchez wrote: Robert Soricone wrote: A computer network, that is currently using RedHat, is interested in migrating snip You may also want to look at systemimager, which lets you customize one client exaclty how you want it and then duplicate that install across a whole bunch of other

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:08:07AM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried? It's my lot in life to be a thorn in the side. Everybody in the world identifies themselves by what camps they belong to. I argue in this bizarro style mostly to stir

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:37, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:19:10PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: Personally, I think the whole federal government system is corrupted and bloated and it needs to be totally redone from scratch. Unfortunately, I'm prolly looking at this like

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:56, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:51:41PM +0800, csj wrote: I have never owned a gun and I haven't shot anyone either. Cultural differences I guess. In most other countries, only war, crime and drug

Salaries (was Re: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers)

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 15:01, Tom wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:41:17PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote: On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: [snip] I'm a Developer -- even though I started with VB and Access and while

Re: Salaries (was Re: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers)

2003-11-15 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:26:49PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 15:01, Tom wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:41:17PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote: On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: [snip] I'm

Re: Swen reporting scripts

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:03:06AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: I've prepared a couple of scripts which I'm using to report swen headers and body to originating ISPs. - Scripts work on directory-based mail folders (Maildir, MH, etc.). *NOT* mbox. Sorry. Pipe the mbox into this quick

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 07:23:51PM +0800, csj wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote: [snip very good points] The modern 'educational' process is

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 10:01:36AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote: That's kinda a risky argument to rely on, since if accepted it inevitably leads to the question - why does the US have ten times as many homicidal criminals per capita, than other

Re: Installation Help: SATA Drive

2003-11-15 Thread Erik Steffl
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 17:15, Justin Burke wrote: Hi All, I could use some help getting Debian installed on a new machine with a SATA drive. I've downloaded CD images for both sarge and sid, and both installation methods hang at the same point: Loading kernel modules Detected module

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:42:35AM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. Perhaps this won't work for you, but I did a minimal installation of Woody and then did

Re: ATI Radeon 9800 freezes after using X :1

2003-11-15 Thread Erik Steffl
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 07:49, TR wrote: Is the last version of Xfree in sid supporting ati radeon 9800? Last I had checked it was not yet, so I have fireglx from the ati site running, which of course has created a lot of conflicts everytime that I run an update. no it doesn't. I downloaded

How to use ssh tunnel to reach a machine on a private network?

2003-11-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
I wonder if anyone can help me work out how to do this, please: I have two private networks (192.168.1.0/24) each with a firewall machine connecting through ADSL to the Internet. Each private network can reach the Internet through the firewall (using NAT); therefore no machine except the

KDE desktop sharing through router

2003-11-15 Thread Trey Sizemore
I want to use the KDE Desktop sharing application, but have a Linksys router installed. So the IP address that the desktop sharing gives me is my internal IP. What do I need to do to authorize desktop sharing on the machine. I suppose I first need to find the IP assigned by my IP (in the

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 12:00, Pigeon wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 10:01:36AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote: That's kinda a risky argument to rely on, since if accepted it inevitably leads to the question - why does the US have ten times as many

Theoretical APT question

2003-11-15 Thread Wm . G . McGrath
Hi, Is there any way I can reset the directory/partition that apt uses to install software? I believe it currently install packages under /usr... and /var The history of *nix is very diverse and reflected in the (needless?) complexity of its directory structure. /usr is very large and used

Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird

2003-11-15 Thread Paul E Condon
on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:57:46AM -0800, Martin J. Hillyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've found an example of a problem apparently caused by the UserAgentString check. I recently switched to Mozilla-firebird, and found that after the switch, amazon.com wouldn't recognise my

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