Re: What is going on in debian-user?

2008-01-08 Thread Hans Vogelsberger
Listas Locatel schrieb: I think it's better talk about this problem with lists responsable but I think that's better don't talk about it here. Thats wrong. Lists responsibles only pay attention if the matter is discussed in the list, too. Yours Hans Vogelsberger -- To avoid spam this

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Howie
On Jan 8, 2008 10:45 AM, Joel Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it hasn't. I've continued getting them right up until I sent the unsubscribe message. About 20 minutes ago this was posted: http://cord.de/blog/index.php?entry=entry080108-144308 -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 08 January 2008 16:09, Joel Roberts wrote: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Howie
On Jan 8, 2008 10:09 AM, Joel Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some

Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Joel Roberts
I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam measures, I'll be happy to join again in the future. There's

Re: What is going on in debian-user?

2008-01-08 Thread Raquel
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:23:30 -0600 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jochen Schulz writes: The amount of spam that has passed the listserver's filter mechanisms in the last few days might be large, but it is still only a tiny fraction of what's actually coming in at lists.debian.org.

ssh X11Forward safety

2008-01-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Since I have nothing better to do, I often ponder how to improve safety and security in my home setup. I have two conflicting needs: security of my data and a need to use a browser with javascript and sometimes flash; some sites only work with Iceweasel. Let me set up my thinking on this, and

RE: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Joel Roberts
No, it hasn't. I've continued getting them right up until I sent the unsubscribe message. From: Chris Howie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:41 AM To: Joel Roberts Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Goodbye On Jan 8,

Re: Burn CD

2008-01-08 Thread Gerard Robin
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 09:56:17PM +1100, hce wrote: From: hce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Burn CD Hi, Is following burn CD command correct? I've got following errors: $ sudo cdrecord -scanbus cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size

Extended partition resized during installation

2008-01-08 Thread Ulrich Schweitzer
Hi everybody, I recently installed Debian Etch and it seems the installer resized my extended partition to fit the size of the logical volumes without asking me about it. I installed Debian in addition to a Fedora installation which was already installed on one of my two hard drives. Both my

Enabling ok_locales in SA (was: Re: Another flood...)

2008-01-08 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 06:16:01AM -0800, Brian wrote: I turned on the SA ok_locales function yesterday and loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry, these helped somewhat. Is this just a matter of adding ok_locales 1 loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry to

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Adrian Chapela
Thierry Chatelet escribió: On Tuesday 08 January 2008 16:09, Joel Roberts wrote: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can

DVD image download issue Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel

2008-01-08 Thread joseph lockhart
i've been trying to download the DVD images from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-dvd/ every attempt had the images giving me an error on the download after aproximately 24% completion (DVD 1 errors at 24% every time, other images are within a percentage or two), resuming the

Re: Another flood of spam

2008-01-08 Thread Brian
Paul Cartwright wrote: On Tue January 8 2008, Brian wrote: I turned on the SA ok_locales function yesterday and loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry, these helped somewhat. would you explain these a little.. is that 2nd line a file entry? how do you turn on ok_locales?

Re: DVD image download issue Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel

2008-01-08 Thread Shane D
Maybe you could use bittorrent? On 1/8/08, joseph lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been trying to download the DVD images from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-dvd/ every attempt had the images giving me an error on the download after aproximately 24% completion

Time clock software

2008-01-08 Thread Martin Kenneth Lopez
Hello everyone, I have a little problem, I been testing a php open source (php based) software for time controll, like for clock in and clock out. I look and I found PHP timclock, but so far doesnt work very well. Does anyone knows any software like this? Any help will be great. Thanks in

No DNS consistency checks in Debian spam filter?

2008-01-08 Thread Mike Bird
The single most powerful and most efficient spam filter test is to verify DNS consistency. Judging by the spam now swamping these lists, Debian does not employ such a test. In Postfix, including reject_unknown_client_hostname at an appropriate spot in smtpd_client_restrictions does the trick.

Re: What's your tools for C++ dev?

2008-01-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Michael Yang wrote: Hi all: I'm starting the C++ Developer work on linux, no GUI app involved. Could you tell me what the tools you are working with? I'm trying with g++ and vim. Is there a package containing the help doc for the library API, like the MSDN on Windows. I use mainly Qt4

OT: Conference Recordings about Open Source topics

2008-01-08 Thread Simon Jolle sjolle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Debian Users A while back the CCC Germany [0] released the recordings of presentations[1] as iPod compatible, and normal videos. Are there Open Source related Conferences with video downloads? Not streaming (how to record streaming protocols on

Re: Another flood of spam

2008-01-08 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue January 8 2008, Brian wrote: I should've stated previously, this is on a freeBSD mail server.  At any rate, here are the mods I made.  Search the appropriate Linux docs for correctness of these. To local.cf I added ok_locales en I did a google, and you can either put the line there

Re: What's your tools for C++ dev?

2008-01-08 Thread Felix Cuello
Hello Michael, First of all you have to install: *manpages-dev - Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development manpages-posix-dev - Manual pages about using a POSIX system for development stl-manual - C++-STL documentation in HTML libstdc++6-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3

Re: OT: Conference Recordings about Open Source topics

2008-01-08 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 06:28:43PM +0100, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Debian Users A while back the CCC Germany [0] released the recordings of presentations[1] as iPod compatible, and normal videos. Are there Open Source related

Re: DVD image download issue Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel

2008-01-08 Thread joseph lockhart
Maybe you could use bittorrent? that would be possible, but many isp now make it hard to download large torrent files (in a supposed attempt to stop movie piracy) so torrent is out, and i admit i did not check all the mirrors, though stopping at the same spot is certianly odd jwlockhart

Re: DVD image download issue Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Howie
On Jan 8, 2008 1:10 PM, joseph lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you could use bittorrent? that would be possible, but many isp now make it hard to download large torrent files (in a supposed attempt to stop movie piracy) so torrent is out, and i admit i did not check all the

Re: detecting hdd on usb cable

2008-01-08 Thread Andrew Henry
Ron Johnson wrote: ATA converter cable? Where does the power come from? I've only heard of HDDs in external USB enclosures. The fact that it works on WinXP should've given you a clue :) It has a seperate power cable that plugs straight into the wall outlet. --andrew -- GnuPG Key ID:

Computer won't resume from S3

2008-01-08 Thread Brian McKee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All First post - pretty new to Debian, less so to linux in general. I have a PC here (mainboard IBM 819966U) running Etch that seems to hang after sitting idle for a long period of time. It didn't have this problem previously when

Re: detecting hdd on usb cable

2008-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/08 12:37, Andrew Henry wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: ATA converter cable? Where does the power come from? I've only heard of HDDs in external USB enclosures. The fact that it works on WinXP should've given you a clue :) Not really, since I'm not clued in to each and every USB

Re: No DNS consistency checks in Debian spam filter?

2008-01-08 Thread John Hasler
Mike Bird writes: The single most powerful and most efficient spam filter test is to verify DNS consistency. Judging by the spam now swamping these lists, Debian does not employ such a test. Debian uses SMTP-time anti-spam methods. For a short time the list was not going through spamassassin

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Ok, goodbye! Don't forget to write. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: No DNS consistency checks in Debian spam filter?

2008-01-08 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 8 2008 10:44:06 John Hasler wrote: Mike Bird writes: The single most powerful and most efficient spam filter test is to verify DNS consistency. Judging by the spam now swamping these lists, Debian does not employ such a test. Debian uses SMTP-time anti-spam methods. For a

Re: detecting hdd on usb cable

2008-01-08 Thread Andrew Henry
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 12:37, Andrew Henry wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: ATA converter cable? Where does the power come from? I've only heard of HDDs in external USB enclosures. The fact that it works on WinXP should've given you a clue :) Not really, since I'm not clued in to

libmime-perl libfile-temp-perl versioned dependency

2008-01-08 Thread Mike Bird
An oddity in Lenny. Not sure if anything is wrong. libmime-perl requires libfile-temp-perl = 0.17. perl-modules 5.8.8-12 provides libfile-temp-perl. Yet dpkg and apt-get won't accept perl-modules to satisfy the requirement and instead install libfile-temp-perl 0.18-1. Is this correct? Can you

Re: ethernet card not found during etch-installation

2008-01-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 22:15:37 +0100, Carsten Fortmann wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 08:32:40PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 11:11:16 +0100, Carsten Fortmann wrote: Dear All, I tried to install debian 4.0 rc2 on a dell xps m1330 notebook. When the install

Re: What is going on in debian-user?

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Howie
On Jan 8, 2008 2:32 PM, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's time to revisit the idea of allowing only members to post? Or people could stop talking about it and get back to their lives, since it was fixed some hours ago. -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com

Re: OT: Conference Recordings about Open Source topics

2008-01-08 Thread Simon Jolle sjolle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/08/2008 07:06 PM, Sven Hoexter wrote: Not directly iPod compatible but enough for a few month I guess: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/ Thank you. It's a great archive about Debian related topics. Are there other more general Open

Re: What is going on in debian-user?

2008-01-08 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 8, 2008, at 6:23 AM, John Hasler wrote: This is true, but there has been a surge in spam on this list recently. It is quite clear that all the spam is not getting through, but I'm seeing more here than on other lists. and more than usual. Yup. I'd say fully half my spam today

Re: OT: Conference Recordings about Open Source topics

2008-01-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:45:35PM +0100, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: On 01/08/2008 07:06 PM, Sven Hoexter wrote: Not directly iPod compatible but enough for a few month I guess: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/ Thank you. It's a great archive about Debian related topics. Are there

Re: OT: Conference Recordings about Open Source topics

2008-01-08 Thread Simon Jolle sjolle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/08/2008 08:55 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: BBC has made a documentary about Linux and Open Source. Hi Andrei Where can I download this movie? With Google I saw that the documentary is called Code Breakers Regards, Andrei cheers Simon

Re: Time clock software

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Davies
Martin Kenneth Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a little problem, I been testing a php open source (php based) software for time controll, like for clock in and clock out. I look and I found PHP timclock, but so far doesnt work very well. Does anyone knows any software like this? Any

'input / output error' when using ntfs-3g on Sid-based Helix Live CD

2008-01-08 Thread Rogelio
I'm having some weird issues with Helix (a Sid / Knoppix based distribution). For whatever reason, I periodically get an input/output error while a disk is mounted, and the only way to fix it is to umount and then mount again via ntfs-3g. Here's a more detailed list of what I've been doing. So,

Re: Broken Swedish keyboard layout

2008-01-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 23:39:34 +0100, Davide Mancusi wrote: Hello everyone, My X server is configured with a double keyboard layout, as this excerpt from the config file shows: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd

Re: OT: Conference Recordings about Open Source topics

2008-01-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 09:31:08PM +0100, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: On 01/08/2008 08:55 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: BBC has made a documentary about Linux and Open Source. Hi Andrei Where can I download this movie? With Google I saw that the documentary is called Code Breakers IIRC I got

Re: What is going on in debian-user?

2008-01-08 Thread Wayne Topa
Chris Howie([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Jan 8, 2008 2:32 PM, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's time to revisit the idea of allowing only members to post? Or people could stop talking about it and get back to their lives, since it was fixed some hours

[debian-user] Dumped off the list

2008-01-08 Thread Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct.
I can't seem to stay on this list for more than a couple of weeks and then no more list traffic. This only happens with the debian-user list and not any of the other debian lists.

Re: mount dvd error

2008-01-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 10:10:14PM +1100, hce wrote: Is cdck a command? I could not find it, or should I install it, what is the package? package cdck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Error message about cdrom tray open during boot

2008-01-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 09:37:09AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jan 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 7, 2008 6:57 AM, Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hdc: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Er ror } Jan 7 10:32:50 corinthia kernel: hdc: drive_cmd:

Re: No DNS consistency checks in Debian spam filter?

2008-01-08 Thread John Hasler
Mike Bird writes: No, I checked headers during the flood. Debian was forwarding spam directly received from hosts with PTR records without matching A records. That just means it doesn't use your favorite method (because many ISPs have broken DNS). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [debian-user] Dumped off the list

2008-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/08 15:05, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: I can't seem to stay on this list for more than a couple of weeks and then no more list traffic. This only happens with the debian-user list and not any of the other debian lists. [huge blank line snippage] Every few weeks I get

Re: detecting hdd on usb cable

2008-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/08 13:08, Andrew Henry wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 12:37, Andrew Henry wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: ATA converter cable? Where does the power come from? I've only heard of HDDs in external USB enclosures. The fact that it works on WinXP should've given you a clue :) Not

Re: No DNS consistency checks in Debian spam filter?

2008-01-08 Thread Shane D
My oppinion is that we just give up on the spam. It happenned, it's over, just stop. On 1/8/08, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Bird writes: No, I checked headers during the flood. Debian was forwarding spam directly received from hosts with PTR records without matching A records.

Re: [debian-user] Dumped off the list

2008-01-08 Thread Ted Hilts
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 15:05, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: I can't seem to stay on this list for more than a couple of weeks and then no more list traffic. This only happens with the debian-user list and not any of the other debian lists. [huge blank line snippage]

OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations

2008-01-08 Thread KS
Hi, I have a friend's G4(PPC) which seems to have a dying disk. He had run the Apple disk utility and it reported and error with the IDE disk. The machine just halts sometimes, with the disk trying to read something and the only way to shut down the machine was the power button. I tried doing an

Re: [debian-user] Debian Repository Usage

2008-01-08 Thread Brian McKee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8-Jan-08, at 4:46 PM, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: I obtained the full set of Ubuntu disks, installed the desktop stuff and now have a working system without SERVERS. It seems the servers come on another disk separate from the

Re: [debian-user] Debian Repository Usage

2008-01-08 Thread KS
Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: I obtained the full set of Ubuntu disks, installed the desktop stuff and now have a working system without SERVERS. It seems the servers come on another disk separate from the LIVE/INSTALL desktop software. The server CD is an INSTALL only and not a LIVE

Re: DVD image download issue Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel

2008-01-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 09:22:58AM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: i've been trying to download the DVD images from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-dvd/ every attempt had the images giving me an error on the download after aproximately 24% completion (DVD 1 errors at 24%

[debian-user] Debian Repository Usage

2008-01-08 Thread Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct.
I obtained the full set of Ubuntu disks, installed the desktop stuff and now have a working system without SERVERS. It seems the servers come on another disk separate from the LIVE/INSTALL desktop software. The server CD is an INSTALL only and not a LIVE CD. This means I would have to over

Re: [debian-user] Debian Repository Usage

2008-01-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 02:46:06PM -0700, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: My question: Is there a way of telling apt-get or some other debian package to go to the Debian REPOSITORY and fetch and install a particular item such as the SAMBA server and other servers. What would be the

Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations

2008-01-08 Thread KS
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 16:19, KS wrote: Hi, I have a friend's G4(PPC) which seems to have a dying disk. He had run Linux or OSX? OS X Tiger on the G4(PPC) the Apple disk utility and it reported and error with the IDE disk. The machine just halts sometimes, with the disk trying

Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations

2008-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/08 16:42, KS wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 16:19, KS wrote: Hi, I have a friend's G4(PPC) which seems to have a dying disk. He had run Linux or OSX? OS X Tiger on the G4(PPC) the Apple disk utility and it reported and error with the IDE disk. The machine just halts

Re: 'input / output error' when using ntfs-3g on Sid-based Helix Live CD

2008-01-08 Thread Bob McGowan
Rogelio wrote: I'm having some weird issues with Helix (a Sid / Knoppix based distribution). For whatever reason, I periodically get an input/output error while a disk is mounted, and the only way to fix it is to umount and then mount again via ntfs-3g. Here's a more detailed list of what

Re: debian how-to

2008-01-08 Thread Carl Johnson
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 01:35:08PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-12-31 22:15:46, schrieb Douglas A. Tutty: I also dislike huge long man pages. To me, man pages should be for a bit more help than foo --help; a summary. The main doc

Re: No DNS consistency checks in Debian spam filter?

2008-01-08 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 8 2008 13:30:22 John Hasler wrote: Mike Bird writes: No, I checked headers during the flood. Debian was forwarding spam directly received from hosts with PTR records without matching A records. That just means it doesn't use your favorite method (because many ISPs have

Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations

2008-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/08 16:19, KS wrote: Hi, I have a friend's G4(PPC) which seems to have a dying disk. He had run Linux or OSX? the Apple disk utility and it reported and error with the IDE disk. The machine just halts sometimes, with the disk trying to read something and the only way to shut down

Re: re-using a damaged disk

2008-01-08 Thread Firebeam
pol wrote: Which program to scan and discard badblocks (ext3 file system)? I think they mean badblocks(8). As usual, man badblocks for more info :-) -- FORZA VECCHIO CUORE BIANCOROSSO! 1905 - 2005 (+2)... la storia continua ---=== Powered by

Prism wireless drivers.

2008-01-08 Thread Rui Martins
Can anybody sent me the prism54 drivers for wireless pci device. I use Debian Etch.

Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations

2008-01-08 Thread KS
Ron Johnson wrote: shut down the machine and trying to list various options of salvaging the data from the HDD. I was reading up on dd_rescue (had tried it on a couple of CDs earlier), foremost, and Sleuthkit. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to proceed in this case? Any live

Re: Prism wireless drivers.

2008-01-08 Thread Michael Shuler
On 01/08/2008 04:37 PM, Rui Martins wrote: Can anybody sent me the prism54 drivers for wireless pci device. I use Debian Etch. It's a stock kernel module. # modprobe prism54 -- Kind Regards, Michael Shuler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread David
Joel Roberts wrote: I’ve gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I’m not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam measures, I’ll be happy to join again

overclocking AMD64 gives X mouse/keyboard problems [WAS: mouse/keyboard not responding under Xorg]

2008-01-08 Thread michael
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 20:43 +, michael wrote: On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 12:16 +, michael wrote: On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 15:51 +, michael wrote: I've not managed to define precisely when I get problems but I'm noticing the following symptoms and was wondering if some kind soul

Re: Bug#456796: getopt and parameters with spaces

2008-01-08 Thread Friedhelm Usenet Waitzmann
T o n g: Package: util-linux Version: 2.13-8 Severity: normal Hi, I seem to have found a bug of getopt from the util-linux package. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I believe that the suggested way to call getopt is eval set -- `getopt -o options -- $@` But I found that it can't handle

Re: DVD image download issue Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox/iceweasel

2008-01-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 09:22:58AM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: i've been trying to download the DVD images from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-dvd/ every attempt had the images giving me an error on the download after aproximately 24% completion (DVD 1 errors at 24% every

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/08 17:23, David wrote: Joel Roberts wrote: I’ve gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I’m not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread David
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 17:23, David wrote: Joel Roberts wrote: I’ve gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I’m not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement

Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations

2008-01-08 Thread KS
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 16:42, KS wrote: I agree 6GB will take time to transfer, but there was no change in the size of the directory where I was dumping. Plus the activity monitor on the G4 was not showing any network transfer. I did wait for about half an hour though. So the

Re: 'input / output error' when using ntfs-3g on Sid-based Helix Live CD

2008-01-08 Thread Bob McGowan
Bob McGowan wrote: Rogelio wrote: I'm having some weird issues with Helix (a Sid / Knoppix based distribution). For whatever reason, I periodically get an input/output error while a disk is mounted, and the only way to fix it is to umount and then mount again via ntfs-3g. Here's a more

Re: debian how-to

2008-01-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 10:17:23AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: You can use dwww to view man pages and info in a web browser, as well as the other documentation. That allows you to search using the browser capabilities (using / for w3m), although it doesn't supply the TOC, index or

Absolutely cannot write to USB drive

2008-01-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
I have a 2GB Sandisk Cruzer USB drive that I removed the U3 garbage from. I formatted the disk as FAT in a friend's WindowsXP machine. Now, any Windows machine can read and write to the disk, and my Fedora desktop can read and write to it as a regular user. However, my Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 laptop

Re: Absolutely cannot write to USB drive

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Howie
Try mount /media/usb as a user. On Jan 8, 2008 7:33 PM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 2GB Sandisk Cruzer USB drive that I removed the U3 garbage from. I formatted the disk as FAT in a friend's WindowsXP machine. Now, any Windows machine can read and write to the disk, and my

Re: Absolutely cannot write to USB drive

2008-01-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 09/01/2008, Chris Howie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try mount /media/usb as a user. That's all there was to it??! Thanks, that worked! I can get by now, but for the wife's sake, can this be handled by HAL's automount? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il

Re: Absolutely cannot write to USB drive

2008-01-08 Thread John Schmidt
On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote: I have a 2GB Sandisk Cruzer USB drive that I removed the U3 garbage from. I formatted the disk as FAT in a friend's WindowsXP machine. Now, any Windows machine can read and write to the disk, and my Fedora desktop can read and write to it as a

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
Joel Roberts Joel.Roberts at pinkardcc.com writes: I’ve gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as well, but I’m not going to weed through hundreds of spam e-mails weekly to pursue this any longer. If the list organizers can implement some anti-spam

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-08 Thread Shane D
Yeah... It kind of sounds like I want attention and to harp on something that has been done to death... On 1/8/08, Mark Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Roberts Joel.Roberts at pinkardcc.com writes: I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully supplied some as

Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations

2008-01-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:19:54PM -0500, KS wrote: I have a friend's G4(PPC) which seems to have a dying disk. He had run the Apple disk utility and it reported and error with the IDE disk. The machine just halts sometimes, with the disk trying to read something and the only way to shut down

Re: re-using a damaged disk

2008-01-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 11:17:33PM +0100, Firebeam wrote: pol wrote: Which program to scan and discard badblocks (ext3 file system)? I think they mean badblocks(8). As usual, man badblocks for more info :-) And man e2fsck. The -c -c runs badblocks(8) for you. Note that the

Re: ipw3945 takes a while to warm up???

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
A few days ago, in the middle of a spam storm, I wrote: Hi list I'm running etch on a Toshiba Satellite laptop I picked up about a year ago now in Hong Kong. It's on my home wireless LAN supported by a Buffalo Airstation 54G which I bought recently here in Japan. The wireless LAN card in

Re: What's your tools for C++ dev?

2008-01-08 Thread Michael Yang
OS's API is what I would need mainly. manpages are good, but it would be better if there is a well organized documents. For example, when I want to investigate some issues on regular expression, in Perl, I can use perldoc -q reg, in Java, I can search the class name with the keyword, in Qt, I

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-08 Thread s. keeling
Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Over 90% of GNU/Linux-Users I know are suckers... Yeah GNU/Linux is free (of charge) and thats all they want. If you only listen to d-u and Usenet, the power of those users' noise can be deafening. On the other hand, there are huge moves in

Re: Another flood of spam

2008-01-08 Thread s. keeling
Lesley Binks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have no idea but I wish they could block this stuff. I have just marked up 103 spam messages and, as a relatively new subscriber, am Holy crap. With my homegrown procmail and bogofilter setup, I haven't seen 103 spam in the past month! You should dump

Re: What's your tools for C++ dev?

2008-01-08 Thread Michael Yang
It's great, thx very much, Felix. It's detail enough, I'm checking them out. -M. On Jan 9, 2008 1:59 AM, Felix Cuello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, First of all you have to install: *manpages-dev - Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development manpages-posix-dev - Manual

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/08 21:15, s. keeling wrote: Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Over 90% of GNU/Linux-Users I know are suckers... Yeah GNU/Linux is free (of charge) and thats all they want. If you only listen to d-u and Usenet, the power of those users' noise can be deafening. On the other hand,

Re: What is going on in debian-user?

2008-01-08 Thread s. keeling
Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sometimes I have the impression that the people who complain the most about spam from Debian lists are the ones who don't even know how *bad* the spam problem actually is. Even on my own mail server with only four Recent estimates I've seen suggest up to

new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61

2008-01-08 Thread Jimmy Wu
Hello to the Debian community, A question for Thinkpad Debian users: I will be getting a Lenovo Thinkpad T61 in a few days, which will become my primary computer for school/home etc. I want to run Debian etch on it, but am relatively new to Debian and Linux (I started with Ubuntu about 7 months

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 21:15, s. keeling wrote: Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Over 90% of GNU/Linux-Users I know are suckers... Yeah GNU/Linux is free (of charge) and thats all they want. If you only listen to d-u and Usenet, the power of

Re: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61

2008-01-08 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 8 2008 19:40:43 Jimmy Wu wrote: A question for Thinkpad Debian users: I will be getting a Lenovo Thinkpad T61 in a few days, which will become my primary computer for school/home etc. I want to run Debian etch on it, but am relatively new to Debian and Linux (I started with

Re: What is going on in debian-user?

2008-01-08 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 04:35:42AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sometimes I have the impression that the people who complain the most about spam from Debian lists are the ones who don't even know how *bad* the spam problem actually is. Even on my own mail

Re: What is going on in debian-user?

2008-01-08 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, s. keeling shared this with us all: --} It amazes me that they refuse to accept the obvious.  Linux/Debian/Gnu --} provides all the solutions they need, yet they continue to rely on --} Lookout! and Gmail, instead of slapping in procmail/mailfilter and --} bogofilter/SA.  Huh.  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: reporting BTS spam easily from Mutt]

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Bannister
Just replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Forwarded message from Kumar Appaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] - User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) From: Kumar Appaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:28:27 +0530 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reporting BTS spam easily

Re: What's your tools for C++ dev?

2008-01-08 Thread Scott Gifford
Michael Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] when I want to investigate some issues on regular expression, in Perl, I can use perldoc -q reg, in Java, I can search the class name with the keyword, in Qt, I can check the classes related to regular expression within assistant doc. With

xorg video parameter changes

2008-01-08 Thread Paul Scott
I have just installed sid on a Portege 4010 that I just acquired. I used the very latest lenny network installer. I installed all packages beyond the base install at my control with aptitude. The whole screen isn't being used. It looks like it is using 800x600 out of the available

Re: What's your tools for C++ dev?

2008-01-08 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 10:30:57PM +0800, Michael Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Hi all: I'm starting the C++ Developer work on linux, no GUI app involved. Could you tell me what the tools you are working with? I'm trying with g++ and vim. Is there a package containing the

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