laptop adapter on a desktop

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser
I have a few laptop ide laptop HDs lying around. I can use an adaptor to run it from my IDE controller on the MB. My question is this: Is there any draw back to doing this? -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 1:03 PM, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can log in as root (shown above) both on tty1 and in the GUI (gdm). Running Sid, up to date This is not a show stopper, but it makes me go, hm. Any ideas? and I can do sudo su. When you are using su, are you using your

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely reminded why Sid is

Re: unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 19, 2008 1:03 PM, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can log in as root (shown above) both on tty1 and in the GUI (gdm). Running Sid, up to date This is not a show stopper, but it makes me go, hm. Any ideas? and I can do sudo su. When you are

unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser
subject says it all, from auth.log: Jan 19 15:56:06 dam-main su[5800]: pam_unix(su:auth): authentication failure; logname=damon uid=1000 euid=1000 tty=pts/2 ruser=damon rhost= user=root Jan 19 15:56:09 dam-main su[5800]: pam_authenticate: Authentication failure Jan 19 15:56:09 dam-main

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ... Especially for those times when you are rudely

How to work with trees ? when working with OpenOffice or dia whatever

2008-01-19 Thread Jabka Atu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good Day ,.. I write a lot of text diagrams and many times i need to represent trees At first i did circles and lines in OO then and dia but i know that this is bad idea so i started to search for fast way but i can't find one. I'm searching for a

build the hostap driver under etch

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
I'm trying to build the hostap driver under etch. All the items I find on the 'net say to go to the source directory and type 'make'. When I do this I get 'no targets found', which makes total sense since the Makefile references only .o files, and in the same directory there are only source

Re: unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread joseph lockhart
I can log in as root (shown above) both on tty1 and in the GUI (gdm). Running Sid, up to date This is not a show stopper, but it makes me go, hm. Any ideas? and I can do sudo su. When you are using su, are you using your password or root's password? sudo, miy

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question:

2008-01-19 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:32:25PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote: On 2008-01-18T14:05:25-0800, Alvin Oga wrote: (8) Is there any advantage to using ext2 for /boot rather than ext3? no to either /boot should not be a single partition by itself.. it is part of /bin, /lib, /sbin /etc

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Chris
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:32:21 + Michael D. Norwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I hope not ...

[OT] where is conio.h with getch()?

2008-01-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, In looking around after Kent's question on key presses I found getch() and putch() and the manual (from 1986) says that they are in conio.h. But that's no longer around. That means getch() and putch() have gone away? In favor of what? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 19 2008 10:09:49 Larry Fletcher wrote: Going by the replies I've received, if I use DHCP I will have to use IE to set the username and password in the modem (the IE I have running under Wine can't access the modem). I think this is probably true, because I don't see a way to

Re: [OT] where is conio.h with getch()?

2008-01-19 Thread Sergio Cuéllar Valdés
2008/1/19, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, In looking around after Kent's question on key presses I found getch() and putch() and the manual (from 1986) says that they are in conio.h. But that's no longer around. That means getch() and putch() have gone away? In favor of what?

Re: Sarge r7 CDs released

2008-01-19 Thread Adrian Levi
On 19/01/2008, Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a couple of false starts, we finally have the CDs and DVDs built for the latest sarge (oldstable) point release, 3.1 r7. See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r7/ On Azureus bittorrent I get the error: Error(The

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt does'nt worth to use at all? I

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread PauL Lane
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 10:09:49AM -0800, Larry Fletcher wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Larry writes: What I'm thinking is maybe Verizon gives people different modems. My modem says it's a DSL2+Router, so maybe it would work if it was just a DSL2 modem without the

Re: unable to su to root, sudo works

2008-01-19 Thread Damon L. Chesser
joseph lockhart wrote: I can log in as root (shown above) both on tty1 and in the GUI (gdm). Running Sid, up to date This is not a show stopper, but it makes me go, hm. Any ideas? and I can do sudo su. When you are using su, are you using your

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 17/01/2008, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to TFA, the events in question happened in Essex, Suffolk, and Middlesex Counties of colonial Massachusetts, which are in the United States, not Israel. You have me misplaced. Although it's been snipped out by now,

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Gerard Robin wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: From: Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian user list debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: How to use Mutt? X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level:

Re: rsync 10 times slower in Etch than in Sarge!

2008-01-19 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 09:59:50PM +, Rodolfo Medina [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: on Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:16:28PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So does umount. (I see you said that below, but I wanted to underline it again; it

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel shared this with us all: --} So now I am more or less ready to take the plunge. But I would --} still like some advice. --} --} 1. Is it true that ext3 always lets you recover smoothly after a --}    freeze and pull the plug, or after a power cut? Or are

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 16:37, Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 09:32, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:04, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47:49PM +, Pantor wrote: [snip] Maybe Mutt

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of configuration of mutt) To

dhcp lease time

2008-01-19 Thread hce
Hi, My DHCP client has only got 3600 lease time. Can my DHCP client be set up to get longer DHCP lease time? Or, is it controled by DHCP server? Thank you. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
Pantor wrote: ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because you have it configured to look for mail in a different place from where you have your MTA configured to put incoming mail. Fix it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to: /usr/share/doc/mutt/exemples to see examples of files .muttrc (the file of

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Chris
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:56:57 + Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to:

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Pantor
Chris wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:56:57 + Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 17:25, Pantor wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: [snip] Mutt is an excellent MUA. (Mail User Agent) If mutt is installed on your box go to:

Re: dhcp lease time

2008-01-19 Thread Jeff Grossman
hce wrote: Hi, My DHCP client has only got 3600 lease time. Can my DHCP client be set up to get longer DHCP lease time? Or, is it controled by DHCP server? Thank you. Jim The lease time is configured on the DHCP server. Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Larry writes: Going by the replies I've received, if I use DHCP I will have to use IE to set the username and password in the modem (the IE I have running under Wine can't access the modem). Why do you think you have to use IE? The Web server in the modem will work with any browser. Try

Re: badblocks -- how much time does it take?

2008-01-19 Thread Towncat
On jan. 18, 21:40, Towncat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On jan. 12, 22:20, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/12/08 11:40, Towncat wrote: Hi, I did a /sbin/badblocks -c 10240 -w -t random -v /dev/sda2 Why? Don't you trust brand new disk drives? Well, you do have a

Re: Sarge r7 CDs released

2008-01-19 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Adrian Levi, am Samstag, 19. Januar 2008 um 23:35 schriebst Du: After a couple of false starts, we finally have the CDs and DVDs built for the latest sarge (oldstable) point release, 3.1 r7. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r7/ On Azureus bittorrent I get the error:

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-01-19 23:56:57 +, Pantor wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Because it doesn't know where your email is. You need to tell it. And how to do that? 3.274. spoolfile Type: path Default: If your spool mailbox is in a non-default place where Mutt cannot find it, you can specify

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 15:32:21 +, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. Such as the correct way to trim extraneous content from mails before replying? Yes I agree. Steve -- # Commercial Debian GNU/Linux Support

Update: Re: GTK update problems

2008-01-19 Thread Marty
Marty wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anybody notice the menubar missing from apps after the latest GTK update ? This upgrade seems to have broken many packages. In my case, multi-gnome-terminal failed to start, leaving an error message in

Re: XServer taken down by Wine segfaults

2008-01-19 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 12:08:59PM -0700, Jonathan Doe wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008 07:41:04 am Александър Л. Димитров wrote: Probably I should mention I'm using the binary nvidia drivers. Did not try it with other drivers yet, but I don't think that should have any impact on

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 03:54:32PM -0800, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: Pantor wrote: ---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)--- No mailbox is open. Why it is? Because you have it configured to look for mail in a different place from where you have your MTA configured to put

Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Steve Kemp wrote: On Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 15:32:21 +, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Sometimes some things are just too hard to explain. Such as the correct way to trim extraneous content from mails before replying? Yes I agree. Steve Ouch! Wasn't there just some long drawn

trying to get the prism2_cs driver to work

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
i'm trying to get the prism2_cs driver to work for a prism2.5 chipset card. so far i'm stumped at the following output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo modprobe prism2_cs WARNING: Error inserting p80211 (/lib/modules/2.6.16.4/linux-wlan-ng/p80211.ko): Invalid module format FATAL: Error inserting

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Hello Larry, I am running debian etch with verizon dsl. I also have the Westell 6100 dsl modem. I believe that the suggestions you are getting in regards to dumping everything having to do with pppoe are correct. Have you gone into the connections

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS?

2008-01-19 Thread Joe Brenner
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reiserfs = designed by one person who has had some kind of problems (I haven't looked into it). If damage occurs (e.g. unclean shutdown), may not be able to fix the damage and loses data. I've been using resierfs for some time (including on a flaky

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 19 2008 18:55:27 Larry Fletcher wrote: I can't find `route`. Without 'route' your system may be unable to setup your default route to the internet. I don't understand what happened to 'route' on your system, as it is part of the 'net-tools' package and you have 'ifconfig' which

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS?

2008-01-19 Thread David
Joe Brenner wrote: Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reiserfs = designed by one person who has had some kind of problems (I haven't looked into it). If damage occurs (e.g. unclean shutdown), may not be able to fix the damage and loses data. I've been using resierfs for some time

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Larry writes: I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to fix it. Try sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf. I can't find `route`. /sbin/route -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Mike Bird writes: Without 'route' your system may be unable to setup your default route to the internet. I don't understand what happened to 'route' on your system He has it. It is at /sbin/route. He does not have /sbin in his path so when he types route as a user it doesn't work.

Re: Where do you put your swap partition?

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys think? I think you should add RAM until you don't swap. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: laptop adapter on a desktop

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 19, 2008, at 12:51 PM, Damon L. Chesser wrote: I have a few laptop ide laptop HDs lying around. I can use an adaptor to run it from my IDE controller on the MB. My question is this: Is there any draw back to doing this? Laptop drives are usually slower and lower in capacity than

trying to get the prism2_cs driver to work

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
i'm trying to get the prism2_cs driver to work for a prism2.5 chipset card. so far i'm stumped at the following output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo modprobe prism2_cs WARNING: Error inserting p80211 (/lib/modules/2.6.16.4/linux-wlan-ng/p80211.ko): Invalid module format FATAL: Error

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Sat January 19 2008 18:55:27 Larry Fletcher wrote: I can't find `route`. Without 'route' your system may be unable to setup your default route to the internet. I don't understand what happened to 'route' on your system, as it is part of the

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 18, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Jimmy Wu wrote: (4) ReiserFS can be flaky on a system crash. I haven't found it to be flaky on system crashes. I have found it to be extremely unforgiving of disk corruption and IDE bus problems. I was able to recover the data with reiserfsck, but it took a

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Jimmy Wu wrote: On Jan 18, 2008 4:27 PM, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xfs sure does copy and delete really large files faster - I do use it for video at home. How big do files have to be before one starts to notice the advantages of XFS? In my

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS?

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 19, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: But all of that still gives me no reason to change all of my ext2 partitions to something else. I decided to change the first time I had a server down for an hour because it was waiting for the on-boot fsck to finish... :) -- To

Re: Where do you put your swap partition?

2008-01-19 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, David Brodbeck shared this with us all: --} --} On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --} What do you guys think? --} --} I think you should add RAM until you don't swap. :) --} --} Interesting. It's like people lucky enough to have broadband, thought that

/etc/modutils/0keep: line 9: keep: command not found

2008-01-19 Thread tom arnall
i interrupted 'apt-get install linux-wlan-ng' and when i did the command again i got at the end of the installation messages: /etc/modutils/0keep: line 9: keep: command not found Error while executing /etc/modutils/0keep, aborting Note: If /etc/modutils/0keep should not be an executable script,

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 19 2008 21:25:25 Larry Fletcher wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Sat January 19 2008 18:55:27 Larry Fletcher wrote: lotek:~# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway GenmaskFlags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0

problems after latest etch3 xserver upgrade

2008-01-19 Thread Angus Auld
Greetings, I had no apparent problems with the xserver-xorg-core/xnest upgrade from 2:1.1.1-21etch1 2:1.1.1-21etch2, but with the latest upgrade to 2:1.1.1-21etch3 I have noted that I am no longer able to use vlc media player. I got BadAlloc error. I forced a downgrade to the 2:1.1.1-21etch1 (why

Re: problems after latest etch3 xserver upgrade (*fixed*)

2008-01-19 Thread Angus Auld
--- Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I had no apparent problems with the xserver-xorg-core/xnest upgrade from 2:1.1.1-21etch1 2:1.1.1-21etch2, but with the latest upgrade to 2:1.1.1-21etch3 I have noted that I am no longer able to use vlc media player. I got BadAlloc error.

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Larry Fletcher
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Larry writes: I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to fix it. Try sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf. It's not installed. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 19 2008 22:36:20 Larry Fletcher wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Larry writes: I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to fix it. Try sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf. It's not installed. I looked at your resolv.conf in

Re: Where do you put your swap partition?

2008-01-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:50 PM, Charlie wrote: There would be people who can't afford more RAM, or have machines for which RAM is no longer available I suppose. Well, OK, fair enough. My answer was intentionally a bit flip. Still, with 512 MB of RAM going for $30, someone who can't afford

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