Re: Poca autonomia... mala configuració ?
Per molt que el sistema no sigui capaç d'optimitzar el consum d'energia, la bateria hauria de durar més de 26 minuts. Potser la bateria està espatllada o ha arribat al final de la seva vida útil? Orestes Llavors... les bateries es poden canviar... ¿?.. Em posaré en contacte amb el fabricant del meu portàtil... a veure què em diu ... Moltes gràcies i bones festes a tots ! David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimpn8ypyusq_0+vqw2venvgcõ0d4kmuhdh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Grub
Avui ha arribat una nova versió del Grub i l'error continua, és estrany:
--
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, amb el Linux 2.6.34-1-686' --class debian
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 08308c19-770b-44a8-bb1d-4ad853e9f3b6
echo'S'''està carregant el Linux 2.6.34-1-686 ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.34-1-686
root=UUID=08308c19-770b-44a8-bb1d-4ad853e9f3b6 ro readeon.modeset=0
quiet
echo'S'\''està carregant la ramdisk inicial ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.34-1-686
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Re: Grub
El Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:48:56 +0100
Benjamí Villoslada benj...@gmail.com va dir:
Avui ha arribat una nova versió del Grub i l'error continua, és estrany:
--
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, amb el Linux 2.6.34-1-686' --class debian
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set
08308c19-770b-44a8-bb1d-4ad853e9f3b6
echo'S'''està carregant el Linux 2.6.34-1-686 ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.34-1-686
root=UUID=08308c19-770b-44a8-bb1d-4ad853e9f3b6 ro readeon.modeset=0
quiet
echo'S'\''està carregant la ramdisk inicial ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.34-1-686
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Jo acabo d'actualitzar per veure si es reproduïa l'error però no, ha funcionat
bé. De fet jo solament vaig *arreglar a ma* una de les entrades del meu
grub.cfg, i ell sol es va arreglar en la pasada actualització. O sigui que jo
crec que ja abans s'havia arreglat amb la anterior actualització.
L'única diferencia que trobo entre el teu sistema i el meu es la versió del
kernel:
jo = vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686
tu = vmlinuz-2.6.34-1-686
Fa uns dies pensava que podria ser per que t'havies fet un kernel a ma i
l'havies posat algun signe raro que feia que s'equivoques el grub (alguna
seqüencia d'escapament o algo així), però vec que no és així.
el 2.6.34-1-686 no es troba als repositoris ni de testing ni de sid, o sigui
que, o bé te l'has compilat tu o bé l'has baixat dels repositoris de la
experimental. mode sherlock on Potser el teu kernel te cap script o fitxer de
configuració o el que sigui que no està del tot complert per que és
experimental? /mode sherlock off
Per contra el grub que tenim tots dos és el de SID, i ja fa dies que funciona
be, o al menys a mi se'm va arreglar el tema en la passada actualització.
No se m'acudeix res més.
Apa, sort!
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Re: Poca autonomia... mala configuració ?
+ David Gasa Castell dgasac...@gmail.com: Llavors... les bateries es poden canviar... ¿?.. Les bateries es consideren fungibles, com la tinta o el tòner de les impressores. És perfectament normal haver-les de canviar després d'un temps prou llarg d'ús o si són defectuoses, però la qualitat de fungible fa que la garantia de les bateries sigui diferent de la dels portàtils i normalment molt més curta, per exemple de 6 mesos. Salut i sort! -- Alex Muntada al...@alexm.org http://alexm.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinvtjfarcvwtkspfxmg3fucdcyyieeub5k7e...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Grub
A Diumenge 19 Desembre 2010, hubble va escriure:
El Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:48:56 +0100
Benjamí Villoslada benj...@gmail.com va dir:
Avui ha arribat una nova versió del Grub i l'error continua, és estrany:
--
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, amb el Linux 2.6.34-1-686' --class debian
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set
08308c19-770b-44a8-bb1d-4ad853e9f3b6 echo'S'''està carregant
el Linux 2.6.34-1-686 ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.34-1-686
root=UUID=08308c19-770b-44a8-bb1d-4ad853e9f3b6 ro readeon.modeset=0
quiet
echo'S'\''està carregant la ramdisk inicial ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.34-1-686
--
Jo acabo d'actualitzar per veure si es reproduïa l'error però no, ha
funcionat bé. De fet jo solament vaig *arreglar a ma* una de les entrades
del meu grub.cfg, i ell sol es va arreglar en la pasada actualització. O
sigui que jo crec que ja abans s'havia arreglat amb la anterior
actualització.
L'única diferencia que trobo entre el teu sistema i el meu es la versió del
kernel: jo = vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686
tu = vmlinuz-2.6.34-1-686
Fa uns dies pensava que podria ser per que t'havies fet un kernel a ma i
l'havies posat algun signe raro que feia que s'equivoques el grub (alguna
seqüencia d'escapament o algo així), però vec que no és així.
el 2.6.34-1-686 no es troba als repositoris ni de testing ni de sid, o
sigui que, o bé te l'has compilat tu o bé l'has baixat dels repositoris de
la experimental. mode sherlock on Potser el teu kernel te cap script o
fitxer de configuració o el que sigui que no està del tot complert per que
és experimental? /mode sherlock off
Per contra el grub que tenim tots dos és el de SID, i ja fa dies que
funciona be, o al menys a mi se'm va arreglar el tema en la passada
actualització.
No se m'acudeix res més.
Apa, sort!
bones,
em vaig fixar en aquest error fa un temps i faig fer una actualització de
màquines i en una d'elles em va passar.
Ho vaig sol·lucionar afegint \
echo'S'\''està carregant la ramdisk inicial ...'
^^^
aleshores, executant el update-grub2 man export LANG=C em va quedar en anglès
i sense error.
No sé perquè en algunes instal·lacions falla i en altres no.
Leo
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Re: MySQL et OO.org_base: problèmes avec requêtes pluri-tabulaires
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:39:24 +0100
Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr wrote:
Bonsoir à tous,
Je dispose d'une base MySQL comprenant environ 90 champs et 25000
éléments (lignes), connectée à OpenOffice.org_base via JDBC. Cette base
comporte une douzaine de champs lieux, sous forme de codes INSEE. J'ai
par ailleurs une table de correspondance codes_INSEE = noms_localités.
Je ne suis pas expert en MySQL, mais je sais que l'indexation y est
determinante. As tu bien créé des indexes? Voir
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/create-index.html
Faire afficher, par une requête OO_base, le contenu de la table
principale avec les noms des localités d'un des champs codes_lieux,
n'a pas posé de problème: relation jointure créée entre les deux tables.
La requête s'est exécutée en à peu près une minute.
Le problème, il commence dès qu'il est question de faire afficher les
noms des localités, non plus d'un seul et unique champs localité, mais
de plusieurs (localité naissance, localité décès...). Avec deux tables,
çà déconne déjà un maximum,
Ta base est petite, elle tient en mémoire. Dans ma compréhension
[très partielle] des choses, une jointure devrait bien se passer. Et si
ça tient en mémoire et si c'est convenablement indexé, je pourrais
imaginer une réponse assez rapide (intuitivement, j'imaginerais en
quelques secondes, car ça serait peut-être du O(n log n) avec n autour
de 25000).
Si tu t'interesses à la généalogie (moi pas), tu pourrais peut-être
regarder GeneWeb http://pauillac.inria.fr/~ddr/GeneWeb (c'est codé par
quelqu'un de compétent dans un langage puissant, Ocaml).
Cordialement.
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Re: Faire tourner sshd sur un autre port que 22
Pascal Hambourg pascal.m...@plouf.fr.eu.org writes: Nicolas KOWALSKI a écrit : Il y a une autre méthode basée sur iptables, simple et sûre, en lieu et place de fail2ban ? Tu veux dire une méthode non basée sur les logs d'échec de sshd ? Je n'en connais pas. Oui, je pensais à ce type de méthode. Dommage, j'aimais bien cette simplicité d'utilisation. L'analyse des logs a le double avantage de protéger raisonnablement contre l'usurpation d'adresse (très difficile d'établir une connexion TCP en usurpant l'adresse source sur internet, et pas de log si pas de connexion) et de ne sanctionner que les échecs. Bon, je vais refaire des essais avec fail2ban alors. Merci pour toutes ces précisions. -- Nicolas -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87tyiaw19k@petole.demisel.net
Re: Faire tourner sshd sur un autre port que 22
Bonjour, J'avais une méthode radicale, mais dangereuse avec iptables: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -m state --state NEW -m recent --set --name SSH iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh --match state --state NEW -m recent --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 3 --rttl --name SSH -j DROP Le principe de la règle est simple, si quelqu'un tente de faire plus de 3 connexions ssh en moins de 60s, l'IP est bannie pendant un certain temps. Le problème et qu'il ne fait pas la différence entre connexion réussie et connexion échouée, du coup un utilisateur normal est soumis aux même règles. (peut s'arranger avec --source éventuellement, j'avais configuré ça pour mon réseau local) Cordialement, Andreas On Dec 19, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: Pascal Hambourg pascal.m...@plouf.fr.eu.org writes: Nicolas KOWALSKI a écrit : Il y a une autre méthode basée sur iptables, simple et sûre, en lieu et place de fail2ban ? Tu veux dire une méthode non basée sur les logs d'échec de sshd ? Je n'en connais pas. Oui, je pensais à ce type de méthode. Dommage, j'aimais bien cette simplicité d'utilisation. L'analyse des logs a le double avantage de protéger raisonnablement contre l'usurpation d'adresse (très difficile d'établir une connexion TCP en usurpant l'adresse source sur internet, et pas de log si pas de connexion) et de ne sanctionner que les échecs. Bon, je vais refaire des essais avec fail2ban alors. Merci pour toutes ces précisions. -- Nicolas -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/7e073549-3824-4023-bda3-4574fa94f...@free.fr
Xserver not found !
Bonjour, après une mise à jour d'un gros tiers des paquets, pendant lequel je n'aurai pas du dire Y quand synaptic demandait s'il fallait installer malgré le bug de gravité grave... ...la machine refuse de démarrer X Le souci doit être ce mélange entre les paquets Lenny et Sid, je pensais régler ça en faisant un dist-upgrade, mais malheureusement internet ne fonctionne pas... Quelqu'un pourrait il poster un lien vers un tuto pour configurer ethernet depuis la console, ça fait un moment que je cherche, mais trouve rien qui fonctionne. Heureusement il y a un multi boot qui permet de venir ici ! Merci et bon dimanche, Fred
[Résolu] Écrasement de la table de partition d'un disque USB
Le 14960ième jour après Epoch, Basile Starynkevitch écrivait: [...] Ca serait gentil de nous raconter la suite, et tout particulièrement, si tu as la chance de récuperer quelques fichiers, de nous expliquer quels genres de fichiers c'était, comment et avec quels outils tu les as récupéré... Salut. Donc voilà la démarche utilisée, en considérant que le disque n'était pas le disque de boot de la machine, donc pas de besoin de live-cd ou live-usb en l'occurence: J'aurais dû faire une image physique du disque (man dd) avant les manips, puis faire celles-ci sur les images avant de le faire en live, mais bon je n'avais ni le temps, ni les moyens, ni même la grande nécessité de le faire. Le disque a été abimé par Mac OS X 10.5 et le logiciel Time Machine J'ai lancé testdisk (depuis root), et à chaque essais j'ai demandé un append du fichier log. À la question du type de partition utilisé, j'ai répondu Intel plutôt que le EFI GPT détecté, bien sûr. La première passe a trouvé les 2 dernières partitions, une en Linux, l'autre en Fat32. testdisk propose de faire un Deep Search, que je fais, et qui trouve la première partition, son type, et sa taille. Je fais ensuite une analyse des partitions une par une, les 2 dernières sont en bon état (je m'en doutais), et la première est abimée (je m'en doutais aussi). Je sauvegarde la nouvelle table de partition et je quitte testdisk, qui me recommande de rebooter, ce que je ne fais bien sûr pas ;) Je débranche le disque USB, et regarde la log de testdisk (~/testdisk.log). Très important car par exemple, pour la partition abimée il propose: recover_EXT2: e2fsck -b 32768 -B 4096 device may be needed ce que je fais, et du coup je me retrouve avec une bonne partition dont le lost+found est rempli (pas trop) de petits gravats, dont un qui contient l'arborescence originale (avec les bons noms) correcte à 99,9% Voilà l'histoire. En espérant que ça puisse servir aux autres ;) TIPS: Pour utiliser un disque externe dans un env Linux Mac (Time Machine), il faut créer à l'avance une partition Mac (HFS+), ce que sait faire Linux, et pas laisser le Mac le faire! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wrn6rqjo.fsf...@fermat.tourde.home
Installation Debian sur un Samsung 150plus
Bonjour, Je suis en train de préparer un paquet qui ne sera ouvert que dans une semaine environ et dans un lieu ou seul existera une connexion WIFI pour effectuer une installation. LA chose est un netbook samsung 150Plus qui est équipé d'une interface WIFI basée autour d'une puce Boardcom BCM4313. Ma volonté est de livrer la machine vierge avec une clé USB pour effectuer l'installation (n'y a même plus de trace de W$). Pour cela im faut aussi que l'installation puisse se faire via le WIFI. Hors la clé USB que j'ai fait récemment (1mois) ne détecte pas le WIFI et donc pas de possibilité d'installation via le WIFI. D'où ma première question : - comment ajouter le support de cette carte réseau dans l'installateur ? En parallèle, j'essaie de faire une debian live qui contient le firmware de la carte WIFI. A ce point je n'ai pas trouvé les options qui permettent d'ajouter l'installateur (comme dans live-magic). D'où ma seconde question : Comment ajouter l'installateur dans la live et en pus qu'il puisse inclure le firmware souhaité ? Dans l'urgence des tâches préparatoires aux festivités, j'avoue ne pas avoir beaucoup cherché... Merci de vos coups de main... Yann. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101219121726.551f8...@yan.ianco.homelinux.org
Re: Écrasement de la table de partition d'un disque USB
Le vendredi 17 décembre 2010 à 14:34 +0100, philippe caurier a écrit : Le mieux étant au préalable de créer une copie du disque dur (avec dd) et de travailler sur cette image. Ce n'est pas la première fois que je vois ça, mais j'ai en général comme procédure : - Monter le disque en Read Only s'il y a montage à faire. - Utiliser un (des?) autre(s) disque(s) avec suffisamment d'espace pour récupérer les données. Normalement il ne devrait pas y avoir besoin de manipuler des informations directement sur le disque en erreur (copie ou pas), si ? -- Jérôme Les flocons... quand il y en a un, ça va. C'est quand il y en a plusieurs que ça pose problème. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1292757591.11509.4.ca...@azuki.aranha.ici
Re: [Résolu] Écrasement de la table de partition d'un disque USB
Le dimanche 19 décembre 2010 à 11:43 +0100, François TOURDE a écrit : TIPS: Pour utiliser un disque externe dans un env Linux Mac (Time Machine), il faut créer à l'avance une partition Mac (HFS+), ce que sait faire Linux, et pas laisser le Mac le faire! TIPS: Quelque soit la perfection ultime du logiciel utilisé, il faut faire une sauvegarde avant de manipuler les partitions quelles qu'elles soient. Ça évite des déconvenues et de grosse pertes de temps et d'efforts en pensant en gagner. -- Jérôme Les flocons... quand il y en a un, ça va. C'est quand il y en a plusieurs que ça pose problème. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1292757892.11509.8.ca...@azuki.aranha.ici
Re: MySQL et OO.org_base: probl èmes avec requêtes pluri-tabulaires
Bonjour, Le samedi 18 décembre 2010, Bernard a écrit... Je dispose d'une base MySQL comprenant environ 90 champs et 25000 éléments (lignes), connectée à OpenOffice.org_base via JDBC. Cette base comporte une douzaine de champs lieux, sous forme de codes INSEE. J'ai par ailleurs une table de correspondance codes_INSEE = noms_localités. Merci d'avance pour vos lumières... Je ne sais pas si c'est une lumière, mais tu pourrais peut-être organiser ta base différemment, si j'ai bien compris : - une table personne(id_personne#, nom_personne, autres champs...) - une table evenement(id_evenement#, nom_evenement) les évènements étants naissance, décès… - une table des localite(code_insee#, nom_localite) - une table des relations entre les évènements, personnes et localités evenement_personne(id_personne#, id_evenement#, code_insee) Dans cette dernière table tu n'as droit qu'à un seul lieu par couple (personne/évènement). Je ne sais pas si c'est toujours valide (mais ça l'est pour une naissance ou un décès !). Tu rechercherais alors les localités par sous-requête en associant la personne (son id), l'évènement (par son id), et la localité (par son code insee). La recherche pourrait se faire sur le nom de la personne (à indexer si 25000 personnes) et le nom de l'évènement. -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101219112802.ga29...@espinasse
Re: [Résolu] Écrasement de la table de partition d'un disque USB
Le 14962ième jour après Epoch, Jérôme écrivait: Le dimanche 19 décembre 2010 à 11:43 +0100, François TOURDE a écrit : TIPS: Pour utiliser un disque externe dans un env Linux Mac (Time Machine), il faut créer à l'avance une partition Mac (HFS+), ce que sait faire Linux, et pas laisser le Mac le faire! TIPS: Quelque soit la perfection ultime du logiciel utilisé, il faut faire une sauvegarde avant de manipuler les partitions quelles qu'elles soient. Ça évite des déconvenues et de grosse pertes de temps et d'efforts en pensant en gagner. C'est d'une telle évidence, mais dans ce cas, que dire de la notion de perfection ultime du logiciel de sauvegarde ? Ya un moment où il faut se lancer, hein? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjxurny0@fermat.tourde.home
Re: Écrasement de la table de partition d'un disque USB
Le 14962ième jour après Epoch, Jérôme écrivait: Le vendredi 17 décembre 2010 à 14:34 +0100, philippe caurier a écrit : Le mieux étant au préalable de créer une copie du disque dur (avec dd) et de travailler sur cette image. Ce n'est pas la première fois que je vois ça, mais j'ai en général comme procédure : - Monter le disque en Read Only s'il y a montage à faire. - Utiliser un (des?) autre(s) disque(s) avec suffisamment d'espace pour récupérer les données. Normalement il ne devrait pas y avoir besoin de manipuler des informations directement sur le disque en erreur (copie ou pas), si ? En l'occurence, il n'y avait pas de montage à faire, il était possible de réparer la table de partition en mémoire pour voir ce que ça donnait, et donc recopier ces données sur un autre disque, effectivement. Mais je n'avais pas d'autre disques sous la main, c'était vendredi soir, et je suis à plus de 60km (de routes de montagne) d'un magasin d'info digne de ce nom ;) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87oc8irnpy@fermat.tourde.home
Re: Sauvegarde de disque a chaud
Le 18/12/2010 22:32, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Salut, mayer.debia...@free.fr a écrit : J'ai une machine, montée Debian stable en ... 2005, qui ne s'est jamais arretee, qui n'a jamais eu de dist-upgrade. Je ne suis pas confiant quant a la bonne fin d'un reboot. Pourquoi ? L'age des disques. C'est un 6 et un 10 Go, du temps où c'était ce qu'il y avait de + gros. Depuis,ils ne se sont jamais eteind. Je souhaiterais faire une image du disque (partimage ?), de façon a pouvoir redemarrer en cas de pb, genre disque a l'agonie. La structure d'un système de fichiers monté peut être incohérente, une image à chaud le sera aussi. Un peu comme lors d'un reboot ou d'un arrêt sauvage. Les conséquences ne sont pas forcément dramatiques (fsck ou la journalisation peut réparer les incohérences au démarrage suivant), mais je pense qu'il vaudrait mieux faire l'image avec les systèmes de fichiers démontés ou au minimum remontés en lecture seule, ce qui implique de repasser en runlevel single user. init 1 est prevu. J'ai fait le menage sur hdb, il a desormais de quoi accueillir hda. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0df886.6010...@free.fr
Re: Sauvegarde de disque a chaud
BM Car apres avoir fait un gros menage, le second disque a maintenant la BM place d'accueillir le premier. mount ton_disque /backup for d in /etc /boot /root /var /usr /home /and-so-on; do rsync -av /$d /backup/; done; ou bien directement un rsync -av --exclude /backup/ --excude /proc/ --exclude /sys/ --exclude /dev/ / /backup/ - vérifie quand même la liste des dossiers, adapte à ton cas - si y'a des process qui écrivent, ça peut corrompre les fichiers concernés sur la destination (mais si t'as pas de bdd, ni mail, ni rien qui tourne, ça peut être juste un log, c'est pas bloquant) - truc que j'ai oublié... Mais attention, c'est très gourmand en accès disque et ça peut achever un disque déjà fatigué, mais je sait pas si d'autres solutions sont plus douces pour le disque (pour la sauvegarde du contenu faut en général le lire). Attention aussi à la syntaxe rsync et au trailing slash, surtout avec --delete rsync -a --delete /toto /backup va faire un backup de toto dans /backup/toto rsync -a --delete /toto /backup/ aussi, mais rsync -a --delete /toto/ /backup/ va backuper le contenu de toto dans backup en effaçant tout le reste. C'est logique mais faut faire gaffe ;-) (par sécurité j'utilise donc toujours du rsync $options /$d/ /backup/$d/, et jamais du rsync $options /$d /backup/, parce que le jour où d='toto/'...) Ok, c'est noté ! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0df90f.40...@free.fr
Re: Sauvegarde de disque a chaud
Le 18/12/2010 22:59, Guy Roussin a écrit : C'est comment un rsync tout bete ? qui preserve les proprio/groupe/permissions, recursif, liens, etc ? Car apres avoir fait un gros menage, le second disque a maintenant la place d'accueillir le premier. rsync -aHx --numeric-ids source destination le -a les options pour faire de l'archivage le -H pour préserver les hardlinks le -x pour rester sur le système de fichier le --numerics-ids pour conserver les ids (ne pas les mapper) Tu fais donc autant de rsync que t'as de partition à sauvegarder Si tu es sur ton serveur source voilà ce que ça peut donner avec 2 partitions / et /home à sauvegarder : rsync -aHx --numerics-ids / r...@serveurdebackup:/backup/root rsync -aHx --numerics-ids /home/ r...@serveurdebackup:/backup/home Guy Ok, merci Guy -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0df935.5020...@free.fr
Re: Sauvegarde de disque a chaud
Le 18/12/2010 22:30, Gilles Mocellin a écrit : Le samedi 18 décembre, Bernard MAYER écrivit : Personnellement, je ferais un rsync tout bête vers une autre machine, et de là je copierais tous les fichiers sur un nouveau disque, j'installerais grub sur ce disque, et je vérifierais que le nouveau système boote... sans arrêter la machine de départ (cela dit, si tu penses que l'ancienne machine risque de ne pas rebooter, il en ira de même d'un clone). C'est comment un rsync tout bete ? qui preserve les proprio/groupe/permissions, recursif, liens, etc ? Car apres avoir fait un gros menage, le second disque a maintenant la place d'accueillir le premier. Bonsoir, Je dirais bien man rsync, mais bon. J'avais fait, mais pas tout compris. L'option -a suffit, elle en regroupe tout en tas. Et pour voir l'avancement, je fais -avP # rsync -avP --numeric-ids --exclude /tmp/* --exclude /proc/* --exclude /sys/* serveur-source:/ /repertoire-dest/ Il faut avoir un acces ssh root, pour pouvoir tout sauvegarder avec les bons proprio... Pour conserver les uid/gid, l'option --numeric-ids est très utile. Ok! Merci! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0df7ca.8050...@yahoo.fr
Re: Installation Debian sur un Samsung 150plus
Le Sun, 19 Dec 2010 12:20:02 +0100, Yann Cohen a écrit : Dans l'urgence des tâches préparatoires aux festivités, j'avoue ne pas avoir beaucoup cherché... je réponds un peu à côté : Pour le Wifi je Gxxx pour voir ce qui existe pour mon module. Je regarde sur Ubuntu si ma bête est supporté par exemple. j'installe avec l'internet normal sur RJ45. Ensuite le Wifi. En particulier une Netinstall ne marche pas par le Wifi (je n'en suis pas complètement sur) mais impeccable par le RJ45. À priori des chances que ça marche (plus tard ?) http://www.presence-pc.com/actualite/linux-bcm4313-40658/ Bon amusement -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e1dd1$0$14265$426a3...@news.free.fr
Re: Installation Debian sur un Samsung 150plus
Le dimanche 19 décembre 2010 à 14:59 +, moi-meme a écrit : En particulier une Netinstall ne marche pas par le Wifi (je n'en suis pas complètement sur) mais impeccable par le RJ45. Ben pour mon acer timelineX, le problème étant inverse (pb carte gigabit) c'est plutôt netinstall par le wifi. Je mets un point d'accès en wep le temps de la manœuvre, pour ne pas avoir à configurer un wpa. Enfin ça c'était le passé, la gigabit est maintenant reconnue par squeeze, je n'ai pas testé la dernière version de netinstall, mais on est en droit d'espérer que ça marche. Et en cas général pour tous ces matériels nouveaux, les dernières versions de kernel ont intégré pas mal de choses de manière assez réactive. D'où l'intérêt si une rolling release se mettait en place, ou d'intégrer les différentes version de kernels dans les backports. -- Jérôme Les flocons... quand il y en a un, ça va. C'est quand il y en a plusieurs que ça pose problème. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1292773314.11509.16.ca...@azuki.aranha.ici
Re: Faire tourner sshd sur un autre port que 22
Le 17/12/2010 14:00, Stephane Bortzmeyer a écrit : http://www.bortzmeyer.org/sshd-port-alternatif.html [snip] Existe-t-il d'autres méthodes pour contrarier ce genre d'attaquants ? Oui, bien sûr, on peut restreindre l'accès à SSH par adresse IP source. Cela se fait souvent sur les routeurs, qu'on n'administre que depuis le réseau interne, mais ce n'est pas toujours possible pour les serveurs, il faut bien pouvoir se connecter à distance. on peut aussi activer plusieurs ports dans sshd_config: Port 22 Port ABCDE et n'autoriser le port 22 qu'à partir de certaines IPs (avec iptables ou autre). ça a l'avantage de ne pas devoir modifier les scripts qui utilisent ssh à partir de certaines machines (rsync par exemple). de plus, si le nombre de comptes qui ont droit à ssh est réduit, on peut créer un groupe et utiliser un truc du genre: AllowGroups _sshuser Il y a aussi la possibilité de faire du « toquage à la porte » avec un logiciel comme knockd ou avec une solution plus simple (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/268). Encore une autre solution est d'utiliser fail2ban mais je ne l'ai personnellement pas encore tenté. En sécurité, les solutions les plus simples et les moins fatigantes sont souvent les meilleures. tout à fait. pour fail2ban et les méthodes de même type (blocage d'une IP suite à une tentative), ça ne marchera pas si l'attaque est distribuée. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101219172141.db76513a4...@liszt.debian.org
Re: Sauvegarde de disque a chaud
mayer.debia...@free.fr a écrit : J'ai une machine, montée Debian stable en ... 2005, qui ne s'est jamais arretee, qui n'a jamais eu de dist-upgrade. Je ne suis pas confiant quant a la bonne fin d'un reboot. Pourquoi ? L'age des disques. C'est un 6 et un 10 Go, du temps où c'était ce qu'il y avait de + gros. Depuis,ils ne se sont jamais eteind. Admettons qu'il y a un risque à arrêter les disques. Un simple reboot (pour redémarrer en single user ou sur un CD live par exemple) n'entraîne pas l'arrêt des disques, donc pas de souci a priori. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e5e13.70...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Panne d'acces au fichier NFS sur /etc/passwd
Bonjour la liste, J'essaye depuis quelques heures de me logguer sur une de mes VM sans success et je n'y suis pas arrive. J'ai donc decide de monter la partition ou se situe la VM pour voir ce qui se passe dans les fichiers de log et la: Failed password for from X port 47756 ssh2 Je vais donc verifier mon fichier /etc/passwd et il est vide. Presse de reparer ce merdier, je tente de le remplacer avec le dernier bon passwd (/etc/passwd-) mais je me prends un # cp /etc/passwd- /etc/passwd cp: acces de `/etc/passwd': Panne d'acces au fichier NFS heu, ma partition est EXT3 et ce fichier n'est pas monte par NFS. Pourquoi ce message, mon linux est malade?? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikzqzbjb8atkwfipqgazqlxkgfhp0mbb=xnd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Faire tourner sshd sur un autre port que 22
On 2010-12-19 18:15:02 +0100, mouss wrote: on peut aussi activer plusieurs ports dans sshd_config: Port 22 Port ABCDE et n'autoriser le port 22 qu'à partir de certaines IPs (avec iptables ou autre). ça a l'avantage de ne pas devoir modifier les scripts qui utilisent ssh à partir de certaines machines (rsync par exemple). Pas besoin de modifier les scripts quand on change de port: il suffit de modifier le .ssh/config, et cela une fois pour toutes. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101219213656.gn1...@prunille.vinc17.org
Re: MySQL et OO.org_base: problèmes avec re quêtes pluri-tabulaires
Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:39:24 +0100 Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr wrote: Bonsoir à tous, Je dispose d'une base MySQL comprenant environ 90 champs et 25000 éléments (lignes), connectée à OpenOffice.org_base via JDBC. Cette base comporte une douzaine de champs lieux, sous forme de codes INSEE. J'ai par ailleurs une table de correspondance codes_INSEE = noms_localités. Je ne suis pas expert en MySQL, mais je sais que l'indexation y est determinante. As tu bien créé des indexes? Oui, j'ai bien des index pour chacune de mes tables. J'ai bien remarqué que, sans index, même lorsqu'il s'agit, après l'ouverture d'une table de, disons, 100,000 lignes, de faire afficher les lignes de la première à la dernière, çà demande quelques secondes s'il y a un index, et plusieurs minutes dans le cas contraire. Voir http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/create-index.html Faire afficher, par une requête OO_base, le contenu de la table principale avec les noms des localités d'un des champs codes_lieux, n'a pas posé de problème: relation jointure créée entre les deux tables. La requête s'est exécutée en à peu près une minute. Le problème, il commence dès qu'il est question de faire afficher les noms des localités, non plus d'un seul et unique champs localité, mais de plusieurs (localité naissance, localité décès...). Avec deux tables, çà déconne déjà un maximum, Ta base est petite, elle tient en mémoire. Dans ma compréhension [très partielle] des choses, une jointure devrait bien se passer. Elle se passe bien, et rapidement, s'il n'y en n'a qu'une seule... Au dela, c'est problèmatique ! Et si ça tient en mémoire et si c'est convenablement indexé, je pourrais imaginer une réponse assez rapide (intuitivement, j'imaginerais en quelques secondes, car ça serait peut-être du O(n log n) avec n autour de 25000). Si tu t'interesses à la généalogie (moi pas), tu pourrais peut-être regarder GeneWeb http://pauillac.inria.fr/~ddr/GeneWeb (c'est codé par quelqu'un de compétent dans un langage puissant, Ocaml). Si c'est bien Daniel de Rauglaudre qui a codé Geneweb (c'est l'initiateur de ce logiciel), je le connais un peu. Cordialement. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e90b2.3070...@teaser.fr
Re: MySQL et OO.org_base: problèmes avec requêtes pluri-tabulaires
Le Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:39:24 +0100 Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr a écrit: [...] Il est donc clair que je n'ai pas adopté la bonne méthode. En fait il faudrait qu'une fois la requête édité avec le frontal d'openoffice, tu bascules en édition MySQL et que tu donnes la requête elle même, tu peux même la copier et la coller directement dans mySQL pour voir si la difficulté vient de l'interface (je n'y crois pas) ou de la complexité de ta requête (j'ai ramené de 1/4h à 1/10s une requête juste en mettant une indexation correcte). François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101220001849.19405d7d.user.anti-s...@maison.homelinux.net
Re: Panne d'acces au fichier NFS sur /etc/passwd
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 09:53:29PM CET, Johan Dindaine jojolapin...@gmail.com said: Bonjour la liste, J'essaye depuis quelques heures de me logguer sur une de mes VM sans success et je n'y suis pas arrive. J'ai donc decide de monter la partition ou se situe la VM pour voir ce qui se passe dans les fichiers de log et la: Failed password for from X port 47756 ssh2 Je vais donc verifier mon fichier /etc/passwd et il est vide. Presse de reparer ce merdier, je tente de le remplacer avec le dernier bon passwd (/etc/passwd-) mais je me prends un # cp /etc/passwd- /etc/passwd cp: acces de `/etc/passwd': Panne d'acces au fichier NFS heu, ma partition est EXT3 et ce fichier n'est pas monte par NFS. Pourquoi ce message, mon linux est malade?? df /etc donne quoi ? Histoire de voir si un montage nfs ne s'est pas mis par dessus... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101220071804.gk26...@rail.eu.org
Re: Alternativas para analisis de trafico web
El Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:24:57 -0500, andres cespedes escribió: Quiciera saber si me pueden recomendar algun servidor diferente a webalizer y awstats. Muchas gracias. Analog me gusta mucho, tiene una interfaz espartana pero va al punto. Tienes un listado bastante completo en la Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_analytics_software Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.19.12.18...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: webcam
El 2010-12-18 a las 15:14 -0430, Tenshi Oni escribió: (reenvío a la lista) El 18 de diciembre de 2010 15:01, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:51:33 -0430, Tenshi Oni escribió: Buenas, muchas gracias de antemano a las personas que puedan ayudarme con este problemita: Tengo una netbook lenovo s10-2, tengo instalado Linux Mint Debian Edition, el problema que se presenta es que no me reconoce la webcam. Huy, te pongo el OT para calmar los ánimos. Aqui les dejo la salida de lsusb: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0a5c:2150 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046 Bluetooth Device Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub ¿Has encendido la cámara? Comprueba también si tienes los módulos cargados: lsmod | grep uvcvideo hice lsmod pero no dice nada ¿La cámara está activada/encendida? ¿Cómo la inicias, con algún interruptor, con alguna ocmbinación de teclas (Fn+...)? Lo primer que tienes que conseguir es el que el sistema la detecte, revisa el dmesg a ver si ves algo sobre la webcam, si falla por algún motivo o si no puede inicializarse porque le falta algún driver/firmware :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101219122506.ga4...@stt008.linux.site
Re: Alternativas para analisis de trafico web
Gracias por sus respuestas, voy a chequiar los que me recomendaron.
Restaurar Claves GPG Era: Re: Restaurar repositorios SOLUCIONADO
linux escribió: En la misma pagina de debian multimedia te da la solución, instalar debian-multimedia-keyring. De ultima otra posibilidad es: apt-get update Por ejemplo te da lo siguiente W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FOO (donde FOO identifica una key pública), entonces ejecutá los siguientes comandos como root, reemplazando FOO por el valor que recibís en el error: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys FOO gpg -a --export FOO | sudo apt-key add - Gracias Linux por el aporte, me sirvió tu solución. Agregué el repositorio deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze main non-free Luego ejecuté los comandos como me dijiste y fue suficiente. Ya tengo todo funcionando. En otro hilo seguiré preguntando algunos comportamientos extraños que estoy observando. Saludos y Gracias -- Sergio Bess Buenos Aires. Argentina skype: sergio.bess jabber: sergio.b...@jabber.org Linux counter: 486274 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e4c81.9030...@yahoo.com
Re: Restaurar repositorios
El 18/12/10 22:21, Sergio Bess escribió: ¿Cómo hago para restaurar los repos tal cual estaban al momento de la instalación, es decir, antes de meter la mano? Por si te sirve, aquí te dejo los míos: http://www.jesusda.com/files/apt/sources.list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e54d3.5020...@jesusda.com
Re: Alternativas para analisis de trafico web
El Sun, 19 Dec 2010 12:22:43 -0500, andres cespedes escribió: Gracias por sus respuestas, voy a chequiar los que me recomendaron. Ten en cuenta que tanto Analog como Piwik, Awstats o Webalizer son programas que permiten conocer los datos de los usuarios _que acceden a tu servidor web_, vamos que básicamente analizan los registros del Apache (o el servidor web que uses) y presentan estadísticas de acceso. Si lo que quieres es saber qué es lo que hacen los usuarios de tu red/ proxy con tu ancho de banda, necesitarás otro tipo de programa de estadísticas :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.19.19.24...@gmail.com
Re: Restaurar repositorios
jEsuSdA 8) escribió: El 18/12/10 22:21, Sergio Bess escribió: ¿Cómo hago para restaurar los repos tal cual estaban al momento de la instalación, es decir, antes de meter la mano? Por si te sirve, aquí te dejo los míos: http://www.jesusda.com/files/apt/sources.list Sí que están bien completitios. Muchas gracias los copié en un doc de texto para tenerlos como resguardo. Saludos jEsuSdA 8) -- Sergio Bess Buenos Aires. Argentina skype: sergio.bess jabber: sergio.b...@jabber.org Linux counter: 486274 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e6a72.2090...@yahoo.com
Re: Restaurar repositorios
No tengas miedo por lo menos los repositorios de debian multimedia son seguros, igualmente siempre que quieras agregar algún repositorio y te muestre el error que mencionas las soluciones son o serian mantener actualizado el paquete que mencionan los de debian-multimedia o hacer los pasos que indique antes.- Si por las dudas queres mantener algún resguardo de la lista de repositorios simplemente copias el archivo /etc/apt/sources.list, en algún lado, y cuando se te presenta algún problema, lo copias nuevamente a /etc/apt/ De ultima si se te presenta algun error y queres por ejemplo anular algun repositorio colocando #adelante de la linea en cuestión te lo anula sin tener que borrar el archivo, si lo queres habilitar nuevamente lo quitas y listo, eso si para cualquier cambio que realices en el repositorio tenes que hacer apt-get update, para que se actualice la lista de paquetes.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktineobgv3jmp_wrrm+e-xn_ov7mjz6kg-m0jy...@mail.gmail.com
Compilación de Alsa 1.0.23
Buenas Noches! Estoy tratando de compilar alsa-driver-1.0.23 en debían squeeze/sid pero al trata de hacer un make obtengo lo siguiente: *find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio* *find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio* *find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio* * * *Building modules, stage 2.* * * */usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/scripts/Makefile.modpost:42: include/config/auto.conf: No existe el fichero o el directorio* *find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio* *find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio* *find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio* *make[2]: *** No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo `include/config/auto.conf'. Alto.* *make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2* *make[1]: se sale del directorio `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common'* *make: *** [compile] Error 2* kernel: debian:/usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.23# *uname -a* Linux debian* 2.6.32-5-686 *#1 SMP Fri Dec 10 16:12:40 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux No pude encontrar mucha información al respecto, Si alguien tiene algo de información de porque esta pasando esto le agradecería. Saludos
Re: Compilación de Alsa 1.0.23
On 12/20/2010 12:39 AM, jorge segovia wrote: Buenas Noches! Estoy tratando de compilar alsa-driver-1.0.23 en debían squeeze/sid pero al trata de hacer un make obtengo lo siguiente: /f ind: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio / /find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio/ /find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio/ Tienes que instalar los headers del kernel :~# aptitude search kernel-headers Saludos -- La Voluntad es el único motor de nuestros logros Mstaaravin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0ed3b8.4090...@ngen.com.ar
Rv: Compilación de Alsa 1.0.23
Buenas Noches! Al parecer el error que te regresa es que te faltan bajar el paquete de headers del kernel que estas utilizando, para poder compilarlo, instala el paquete de la header correspondiente a tu kernel 2.6.32-5-686 de la siguiente forma, realiza un #aptitude search linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686 , si lo encuentras lo instalas, para tu kernel seria: #aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686 Saludos, Atentamente, Rafael Urbina G. Caracas - Venezuela Linux User# 434786 De: jorge segovia jorge.anton.sego...@gmail.com Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Enviado: dom, diciembre 19, 2010 11:09:47 PM Asunto: Compilación de Alsa 1.0.23 Buenas Noches! Estoy tratando de compilar alsa-driver-1.0.23 en debían squeeze/sid pero al trata de hacer un make obtengo lo siguiente: find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio Building modules, stage 2. /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/scripts/Makefile.modpost:42: include/config/auto.conf: No existe el fichero o el directorio find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio find: «/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/alsa-kernel/»: No existe el fichero o el directorio make[2]: *** No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo `include/config/auto.conf'. Alto. make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 make[1]: se sale del directorio `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common' make: *** [compile] Error 2 kernel: debian:/usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.23# uname -a Linux debian2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Fri Dec 10 16:12:40 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux No pude encontrar mucha información al respecto, Si alguien tiene algo de información de porque esta pasando esto le agradecería. Saludos
Re: Restaurar repositorios
El 18/12/10, ceduard0 carlos.eduardo.vir...@gmail.com escribió: El día 18 de diciembre de 2010 16:21, Sergio Bess serpeane...@yahoo.com escribió: Amigos/as:: Tengo recién instalado Debian Testing estrictamente para aprendizaje y metí la pata con los repositorios. Quise incluir el repo de multimedia que de serie no lo trae en el source.list y desde ese momento no puedo actualizar Synaptic porque aparecen los mensajes de error que dicen que no puede verificar las claves públicas. Bueno en algún momento me paso eso, en ese momento a mi me basto desde la consola de comandos edite el archivo source.list, quitando las cosas que habia añadido y luego de salvado hice un apt-get update y verifique los mensajes de salida; bueno en mi caso salio todo bien. La búsqueda en la web no me dio soluciones muy explicativas y me trabé en este punto. Venía bien con Don Google pero en este tema no me ha podido ayudar mucho. Algo de teoria no caera mal: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.es.html http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/introduccion-repositorios-debian Pregunta: ¿Cómo hago para restaurar los repos tal cual estaban al momento de la instalación, es decir, antes de meter la mano? No bastó con quitar el repo de multimedia, ahora no funciona ninguno y a pesar que me informa que hay actualizaciones para instalar no puedo tampoco marcarlas. Mira aquí coloco la información de mi source.list, esta la use para pasar de lenny a squeeze deb http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb-src http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main Hola, dicen q los repos de francia son mas rapidos? deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free Eso si recuerda sacar un respaldo de tus archivos de configuración. Despues de editado tu source.list no olvides de hacer el apt-get update Espero que la Santa Inquisición no tome esta pregunta como sacrílega y puedan darme una mano antes de mandarme al cadalso por meter la mano sin saber. Recuerda que tienes muchos documentos en tu sistema puedes acceder desde tu navegador Web con esto: file:///usr/share/doc/debian-reference-common/html/index.es.html Saludos y gracias. -- Sergio Bess Buenos Aires. Argentina skype: sergio.bess jabber: sergio.b...@jabber.org Linux counter: 486274 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0d25c7.2010...@yahoo.com -- ceduard0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinsznneorhn9atadqb40txmufrldc7poj7k...@mail.gmail.com -- edg...@r: http://cybernautape.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik83fcunhtyvstytpx6yr1tplxfwffv7yptb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: desbloquear chaveiro do gnome
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Ajuda para migração de Windows para Linux
Pessoal!! Aqui na Instituição que trabalho, estamos estudando migrar as 600 estações de trabalho Windows para linux, estamos buscando alternativas que possam substituir o Windows Active Directory para gerenciamento centralizado. Até o momento não achei nada para debian ou ubuntu que são nossas primeiras escolhas, até o momento achei apenas para Fedora, Centos e Red Hat, vocês conhecem algo que faça do tipo do space walk da Red Hat ( http://spacewalk.redhat.com/) e do Directory Server ( http://www.br.redhat.com/products/infrastructure/directory_server/), apesar de a Red Hat ser para estes dois produtos funcionam com o Centos. Se não acharmos nada para a linhagem debian vamos ter que usar o Centos mesmo, mas não me agrada isso, espero ajuda de vocês. -- Fagner Patrício João Pessoa - PB Brasil
Re: Ajuda para migração de Windows para Linux
Acho que aqui você tem quase tudo que precisa. http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP sds, http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP Em 19 de dezembro de 2010 15:55, Fagner Patricio fagner.patri...@gmail.com escreveu: Pessoal!! Aqui na Instituição que trabalho, estamos estudando migrar as 600 estações de trabalho Windows para linux, estamos buscando alternativas que possam substituir o Windows Active Directory para gerenciamento centralizado. Até o momento não achei nada para debian ou ubuntu que são nossas primeiras escolhas, até o momento achei apenas para Fedora, Centos e Red Hat, vocês conhecem algo que faça do tipo do space walk da Red Hat (http://spacewalk.redhat.com/) e do Directory Server (http://www.br.redhat.com/products/infrastructure/directory_server/), apesar de a Red Hat ser para estes dois produtos funcionam com o Centos. Se não acharmos nada para a linhagem debian vamos ter que usar o Centos mesmo, mas não me agrada isso, espero ajuda de vocês. -- Fagner Patrício João Pessoa - PB Brasil -- -- Guilherme Rocha GF7 Doc Systems - Soluções Tecnológicas Pesquisa e Desenvolvimento - World Wide R. João Goulart, 170 - Rio Pardo - RS - CEP 96640-000 Mobile: +55 51 81400360 - Home Page: http://www.gf7.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimon8aj+qfhrrxpnm7hffmfnzow9rknvfihd...@mail.gmail.com
Notebook ' ta debian için bir partion ay ırdım. işletim siste mi win7 ve net insta ll ile kurmak istedi ğim de installasyon cd sini istiyor.
Slm Notebook ' ta debian için bir partion ayırdım. işletim sistemi win7 ve net install ile kurmak istediğim de installasyon cd sini istiyor. Windows 7 için cd veya dvd kurulumu olmadan nasıl bir install metodu uygulayabilirim yardımlarınız için şimdiden teşekkürler
Re: Question about /etc/fstab in Squeeze
In 20101218221908.ga5...@hysteria.proulx.com, Bob Proulx wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: ls -log /dev/disk/by-uuid and /dev/disk/by-label. Of course. Thanks! /dev/disk/by-label ?? What kernel are you running? $ ls /dev/disk by-id by-label by-path by-uuid $ uname -a Linux monster 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 10 15:35:08 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux (I'm on mostly Squeeze; stable+security+volatile+multimedia/lenny(winehq)/lenny- backports/testing+security+multimedia/squeeze(winehq)/unstable+multimedia/sid(winehq)/experimental -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
Dne, 19. 12. 2010 05:31:37 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a): What is the result of? dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/filesystem/test count=10 bs=8192 That will write an 810MB file of all zeros, and will give you a much better idea of the raw streaming write performance vs copying files from the old 160GB drive to the new one. I would think the result should be a bit higher than 60MB/s. Also, make sure you're using the deadline elevator instead of CFQ as it yields better performance, especially on SATA systems that don't support NCQ: $ echo deadline /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler You may want to add this to your boot scripts to make it permanent. I roll this option as the default in my custom kernels. Thanks for the suggestion, Stan. Using dd I get a much higher figure, namely around 83 MB/s. Changing the elevator doesn't make a difference on my system though. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1292749820.598...@compax
Re: Mysql database and OO_base.org: problem with INNER JOINTS on tables
In 4d0d34cb.3020...@teaser.fr, Bernard wrote: I am trying to manage a local MySQL database which is connected to OpenOffice.org_base using JDBC. The main table has about 90 fields and 25,000 elements. This table comprises a dozen of fields about 'places' (birthplace, weddingplace, deathplace, burialplace, workplace... ), which fields are not filled in plain text, but in postal codes. I have another table that displays placenames vs postal codes. I did not have much problem figuring how to get an OO_base request to display the main table with placenames in clear, AS LONG AS IT WAS MATTER OF DISPLAYING ONLY ONE place field in clear. Problems started as soon as I tried displaying two place-fields in clear. While the request succeeded after about one minute in the first case, it never ended in the second test ; I had to get out after half an hour. I then tried with a much shorter table, that is, the same table with only 1000 elements, the remaining 24,000 having been erased. Then, it did work... after about 10 minutes, which is a lot of time for such a small table... Sounds like you need some indexes. They vastly speed up join operations, usually. You'll want an index in the postal_code-place_name table on the columns that are compared in the query. If your use equality ( or = operators) on some columns, and ordering (, =, =, or operators) on others, list the ones using equality in the query first. Without indexes, doing each join is usually done with 2 (or more) nested table scans. This requires (#rows in main table * #rows in joined table) operations. Even if each individual operation is fast, that number can get quite big quite fast. With a good index, doing each join requires logarithmically fewer operations. (E.g. instead of 1000 * 1000 operations, 1000 * 10 operations; instead of 25000 * 10 operations, 25000 * 17 operations.) Yet I did not get exactly what was expected : only the lines where both placefields were NOT NULL did display. Whatever line with only one NOT NULL placefield, did not appear at all, while I expected that they all show up, with an empty column where the placefield was empty ! That's the default when doing a JOIN. It is called an inner join. If you want to do a left/right/full outer join, there is an ANSI SQL syntax and MySQL might also provide an alternative syntax. You should check the results of your query that displays only a single place- field in the clear. All this requires learning some SQL and being about to design a query in SQL that is used by base. I know little to nothing about the UI provided by base. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Re: LG monitor connected via HDMI wrong output color
Hi, I just compiled a new kernel last night, and it does indeed work. Should I report this as bug to the kernel in Debian? Paul. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0dd1bf.6010...@paulscripts.nl
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
Klistvud put forth on 12/19/2010 3:10 AM: Dne, 19. 12. 2010 05:31:37 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a): What is the result of? dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/filesystem/test count=10 bs=8192 That will write an 810MB file of all zeros, and will give you a much better idea of the raw streaming write performance vs copying files from the old 160GB drive to the new one. I would think the result should be a bit higher than 60MB/s. Also, make sure you're using the deadline elevator instead of CFQ as it yields better performance, especially on SATA systems that don't support NCQ: $ echo deadline /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler You may want to add this to your boot scripts to make it permanent. I roll this option as the default in my custom kernels. Thanks for the suggestion, Stan. Using dd I get a much higher figure, namely around 83 MB/s. Changing the elevator doesn't make a difference on my system though. 83 MB/s isn't too bad for that drive. IIRC the WD20EARS is a 5400 RPM drive with variable spindle speed to reduce power consumption. My 7200 RPM WD Blue 500GB WD5000AAKS single platter drive hits about the same dd sequential write speed, using lower bit density but higher spindle speed: /$ dd if=/dev/zero of=./test count=10 bs=8192 10+0 records in 10+0 records out 81920 bytes (819 MB) copied, 9.8092 s, 83.5 MB/s The deadline elevator may not help much with streaming reads/writes. It does help a bit with random read/writes, especially under multi-user or multi-threading random seek disk workloads. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0ddd7d.70...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Does somebody know how to install mintbackup for Debian
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 23:06:51 +, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 18 December 2010 18:43:06 Camaleón wrote: Linuxmint is based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian... so, in the end what you have is a .deb file but I would not mix packages from different distributions: it could work or it could give you nothing but headaches :-) Not necessarily. There is now a version based on Debian instead of Ubuntu. Tho' the rest of your comment obviously stands. He, he... yes, I know :-) But the OP said plain Linux Mint (not Linux Mint Debian Edition, in short LMDE) and while LMDE is compatible with Debian repositories, the opposite does not have to be necessarily true (besides, LMDE does not have yet a 64-bit edition). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.19.12.39...@gmail.com
Re: LG monitor connected via HDMI wrong output color
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:34:55 +0100, Paul Sohier wrote: I just compiled a new kernel last night, and it does indeed work. Should I report this as bug to the kernel in Debian? Yes, I would first make a search in Debian BTS for any similar issue and if not listed, I'd report it against the kernel component. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.19.12.42...@gmail.com
Re: Question about /etc/fstab in Squeeze
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:19:08 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: ls -log /dev/disk/by-uuid and /dev/disk/by-label. Of course. Thanks! /dev/disk/by-label ?? What kernel are you running? $ ls -log /dev/disk/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 1240 Dec 16 11:26 by-id drwxr-xr-x 2 380 Dec 16 11:26 by-path drwxr-xr-x 2 200 Dec 16 11:26 by-uuid That is for both Lenny and Squeeze. Yes, by-label (lenny, kernel 2.6.26-2-amd64): s...@stt008:~$ ls -log /dev/disk/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 280 dic 19 10:58 by-id drwxr-xr-x 2 80 dic 19 10:58 by-label drwxr-xr-x 2 180 dic 19 10:58 by-path drwxr-xr-x 2 100 dic 19 10:58 by-uuid If you have not label defined for any volume, the node won't be automatically created. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.19.12.46...@gmail.com
Re: Question about /etc/fstab in Squeeze
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 03:51:28 -0500 (EST), Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20101218221908.ga5...@hysteria.proulx.com, Bob Proulx wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: ls -log /dev/disk/by-uuid and /dev/disk/by-label. Of course. Thanks! /dev/disk/by-label ?? What kernel are you running? $ ls /dev/disk by-id by-label by-path by-uuid $ uname -a Linux monster 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 10 15:35:08 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux ... /dev is a pseudo file system created by udev. Under ordinary conditions, no data in it persists across reboots. I suspect that udev does not create a /dev/by-label directory unless it detects a disk partition with a label during boot. Perhaps none of Bob's partitions are labeled? A label is optional, both for mkswap and mke2fs. And if the partitioning/formatting is done by the Debian installer, there may not be any labels. A label can be added after the fact with e2label, or an inactive swap partition can be reformatted by mkswap with a label specified. blkid will list the label, if there is one. Caution: reformatting a swap partition with mkswap will change the uuid unless the existing one is explicitly re-specified during formatting. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1446887164.1169107.1292764169571.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: xserver-testing issues.
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: Yes, KDE3/4 (both) have nice tools (system settings/display or krandtray), even better (more complete) than the GNOME counterpart for setting up the screen resolution :-) Yes, it did solve my problem. Thanks again, Camaleón. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e06a1.5989cc0a.23ae.0...@mx.google.com
Re: Does somebody know how to install mintbackup for Debian
On Sunday 19 December 2010 12:39:58 Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 23:06:51 +, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 18 December 2010 18:43:06 Camaleón wrote: Linuxmint is based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian... so, in the end what you have is a .deb file but I would not mix packages from different distributions: it could work or it could give you nothing but headaches :-) Not necessarily. There is now a version based on Debian instead of Ubuntu. Tho' the rest of your comment obviously stands. He, he... yes, I know :-) That doesn't surprise me - your knowledge seems to be encyclopaedic. I very much doubt that there is anything aboyt Linux that I know and you don't. :-) But you may have readers, either now or in the future, who do not know that. But the OP said plain Linux Mint (not Linux Mint Debian Edition, in short LMDE) and while LMDE is compatible with Debian repositories, the opposite does not have to be necessarily true (besides, LMDE does not have yet a 64-bit edition). Yes - I entirely agree, and had in fact said that the rest of what you said would still apply. Indeed, I can think immediately of a case where a distro could and did use Debian repositories, but where the reverse was not true. I would be very wary indeed of trying to install on Debian from any repository that is not explicitly intended for Debian. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012191327.24103.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process
On Thursday 16 December 2010 18:31:46 Bob Proulx wrote: Juan Ignacio Gaudio wrote: I just need to be able to change to a console tty and restore the previous xorg.conf. But as X starts automatically I can't manage to do that before X crashes and I lose the keyboard again... do you know of a way of changing the runlevel to just console (no X) or aborting X startup during Linux boot process (some key combination or anything). I searched it and turned up to be pretty simple. It's just needed to append the runlevel number to the kernel line, something like this example: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30 root=/dev/sda2 ro 3 Note that the above isn't going to boot without X on a default Debian Lenny system unless you have changed it. By default on Debian all runlevels are configured the same. There isn't anything magical about runlevel 2 or 3 or 4 or 5. By default they are all the same. You can as a local admin configure them to be different but unless you have done so then booting runlevel 3 won't be any different than booting the default runlevel 2. X will start the same. The traditional solution would be to boot single user mode with S or 'single' and make corrections from there. Alternatively you can disable gdm/kdm/xdm temporarily and then reboot to the full system which will then be a text console. Once we are thinking in terms of run-level by number, why not just use 1 (without the quotation marks!) which on a Debian system is the CLI? Or, of course, choose single user in GRUB. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012191553.41467.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Poppler error: floating point exception (lenny)
Hello, I am getting a floating point exception error message from Evince when opening some PDF files (a sample is linked bellow). The file gets opened but as soon as I'm reading pages (page 1, page 2, page 3...), at some point Evince closes by itself. When running Evince from command line, as soon as it breaks, I can see the above mentioned error. Sample error (PDF, ~3.1 MiB): http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF (I have tested with other PDF files from Panasonic site and they just crash in the same manner). The GIMP gives the same error: *** s...@stt008:~/Desktop$ gimp KXTG7531-MUL.PDF /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/poppler: fatal error: Floating point exception *** Can someone please confirm this problem? My wild guess is that it could have been generated by the latest poppler update¹ because I was not experiencing this issue before. I am running an updated Lenny (64 bits). ¹http://www.debian.org/security/2010/dsa-2119 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.19.16.37...@gmail.com
Request for enhancement [Re: Question about /etc/fstab in Squeeze]
On Dec 19, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: Caution: reformatting a swap partition with mkswap will change the uuid unless the existing one is explicitly re-specified during formatting. Which raises a question that has been on my mind for a while... The Debian Installer insists on reformatting any swap partitions it finds, even though that partition, specified by UUID, is probably in use in the /etc/fstab for some other instantiation of Linux -- thus breaking the other Linux, leaving it without a usable swap partition. Would it be possible to either: 1) have the option (default) of *not* reformatting a swap partition or 2) if reformatting is necessary or desired, have the option (default) of preserving the UUID. or 3) using LABEL= instead of UUID= in fstab for swap partitions, if it turns out to be easier to preserve a LABEL than a UUID. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/25d65ecd-1ced-4b5b-9b81-f562ed14c...@pobox.com
GRUB2 boot issue
Here's a new one for you GRUB2 gurus. I left my office attended by my 2 (5 7 yr. old very curious) grandsons. When about 3 minutes later I returned, my system ( which is a multiple boot of Debian Linux SID, Windows 7 Pro, Ubuntu 9,) had been rebooted form Windows7 to the GRUB2 rescue mode stalled there. I figure one of them pushed the soft reboot button restarted the system. Now I had it set to boot to Debian Linux automatically, but as I recall the GRUB2 boot-loader had beside the previous listed OS's, another load item on the menu. Which was GRUB2 rescue mode; Now I have been unable to boot the system into anything except the rescue mode The error message given is: GRUB can't find required file: x.updates. Now as I,m at work not looking at the exact message returned, I may be off a bit on the verbiage. If anyone has any ideas I would appreciate a reply to me directly as sometimes the filters get list replies. -- John Foster -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e405b.8010...@gmail.com
Re: Poppler error: floating point exception (lenny)
On 12/19/2010 11:37 AM, Camaleón wrote: Hello, I am getting a floating point exception error message from Evince when opening some PDF files (a sample is linked bellow). The file gets opened but as soon as I'm reading pages (page 1, page 2, page 3...), at some point Evince closes by itself. When running Evince from command line, as soon as it breaks, I can see the above mentioned error. Sample error (PDF, ~3.1 MiB): http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF Hi! I'm running Debian testing (2.6.32-5-686, fully updated with Evince 2.30.3, GIMP 2.6.10, poppler libraries 0.12.4-1.2). I downloaded and tested the file with Evince 2.30.3 and didn't have any problems. (I have tested with other PDF files from Panasonic site and they just crash in the same manner). Didn't try other files. The GIMP gives the same error: No issues with GIMP, either. *** s...@stt008:~/Desktop$ gimp KXTG7531-MUL.PDF /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/poppler: fatal error: Floating point exception *** Can someone please confirm this problem? My wild guess is that it could have been generated by the latest poppler update¹ because I was not experiencing this issue before. I am running an updated Lenny (64 bits). ¹http://www.debian.org/security/2010/dsa-2119 I can't seem to get the error. Is there anything else about my system that might be useful to know. Or is there anything that you'd like me to try at this end? Is your system 32 bit, too -- or is it 64 bit? Best regards, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e4141.5040...@comcast.net
Re: erratum
Frank McCormick wrote: On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 23:04:31 + Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 18 December 2010 13:50:52 green wrote: Lisi wrote at 2010-12-18 05:21 -0600: Can anyone explain this* (which is the reason why I have not yet installed Chromium). * l...@tux:~$ aptitude show chromium $ apt-cache search chromium That would just give the same result: the information that Chromium is a game. I had tried aptitude search as well, but not surprisingly it said the same. It will be available when I move to squeeze, but meanwhile I have installed Google's .deb. I just wanted to have a look at it, but so far am not impressed. Use it for a while...you just may change your mind. Speedier than the foxand enough extensions to make your head swim Except, no backpage with the topwheel, and no fast scroll with middle click Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ielh9d$67...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Poppler error: floating point exception (lenny)
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 12:30:41 -0500, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: On 12/19/2010 11:37 AM, Camaleón wrote: I am getting a floating point exception error message from Evince when opening some PDF files (a sample is linked bellow). The file gets opened but as soon as I'm reading pages (page 1, page 2, page 3...), at some point Evince closes by itself. When running Evince from command line, as soon as it breaks, I can see the above mentioned error. Sample error (PDF, ~3.1 MiB): http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF Hi! I'm running Debian testing (2.6.32-5-686, fully updated with Evince 2.30.3, GIMP 2.6.10, poppler libraries 0.12.4-1.2). I downloaded and tested the file with Evince 2.30.3 and didn't have any problems. Thanks for testing :-) Yes, it seems the error is only reproducible under Lenny (after reading your message, I've tested within my two virtual machines, one with a 32- bits lenny installation and the other with squeeze, also 32 bits). The lenny one just crashes in the same manner that my main system but in squeeze the error is not present. (...) Can someone please confirm this problem? My wild guess is that it could have been generated by the latest poppler update¹ because I was not experiencing this issue before. I am running an updated Lenny (64 bits). ¹http://www.debian.org/security/2010/dsa-2119 I can't seem to get the error. Is there anything else about my system that might be useful to know. Or is there anything that you'd like me to try at this end? Is your system 32 bit, too -- or is it 64 bit? I think the exception is happening only in Lenny, in both 32 and 64- bits. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.19.18.14...@gmail.com
Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process
Lisi wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: The traditional solution would be to boot single user mode with S or 'single' and make corrections from there. Alternatively you can disable gdm/kdm/xdm temporarily and then reboot to the full system which will then be a text console. Once we are thinking in terms of run-level by number, why not just use 1 (without the quotation marks!) which on a Debian system is the CLI? Or, of course, choose single user in GRUB. Runlevel 1 is almost universially used to implement single user mode. When you ask why not use 1 instead of single the answer is that there isn't any reason. I just think it more clear to ask for single user mode directly and not jump to the runlevel that you know implements it. But you can if you know that information. No reason not to. To see Debian's documentation on runlevels look here: /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.runlevels.gz To look to see how different systems have implemented runlevels see this Wikipedia page. I think it does a good job of capturing the differences. I consider this information must know info for talking about runlevels. Make sure you look at the Unix System V table because that is the grandfather of all of the present systems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel Bob P.S. The confusion that results from people looking today (as opposed to twenty years ago) at runlevels is one of the reasons people want to move to the new parallel boot process. Every system has implemented these numbers slightly differently. There isn't consistency across vendors. And I wouldn't want there to be! Because Debian has the better system in this case and I wouldn't want it to be forced to change to something worse such as one of the other vendor's offerings. Which is what would happen if it were standardized. The new parallel boot process sidesteps the issue entirely by moving to something completely different. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Question about /etc/fstab in Squeeze
Stephen Powell wrote: /dev is a pseudo file system created by udev. Under ordinary conditions, no data in it persists across reboots. I suspect that udev does not create a /dev/by-label directory unless it detects a disk partition with a label during boot. Perhaps none of Bob's partitions are labeled? Good call. I never use labels. That explains it. In my case I almost universially use raid and lvm and both of those use UUIDs internally. Meaning that although I never specify those long uuids anywhere I get the benefit of them along with short device names by default. Which is better than a label. But I wanted to say that I wasn't against labels so much as being for raid and lvm. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Question about /etc/fstab in Squeeze
Camaleón wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: and /dev/disk/by-label. Of course. Thanks! /dev/disk/by-label ?? What kernel are you running? If you have not label defined for any volume, the node won't be automatically created. Ah... I see. I learned something new today! Thanks! Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process
On Sunday 19 December 2010 18:46:18 Bob Proulx wrote: Runlevel 1 is almost universially used to implement single user mode. When you ask why not use 1 instead of single the answer is that there isn't any reason. I just think it more clear to ask for single user mode directly and not jump to the runlevel that you know implements it. But you can if you know that information. No reason not to. If I want to boot into single user from a cold start, I do it via GRUB. But if I am in a GUI and I want to actually change (rather than just bring up a tty) I use init 1. I don't think that init s would work - but you are probably about to tell me that it would. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012191902.11285.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process
Lisi wrote: If I want to boot into single user from a cold start, I do it via GRUB. But if I am in a GUI and I want to actually change (rather than just bring up a tty) I use init 1. I don't think that init s would work - but you are probably about to tell me that it would. ;-) Yes. I am going to say, It should work. :-) Personally I wouldn't move from multiuser to single user directly. I would always reboot first and then boot into single user mode. Then when leaving single user mode reboot into multiple user mode. That way is very well tested. Doing other things /should/ work but I wouldn't be surprised to find interesting corner cases. It is definitely the road less well traveled. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Poppler error: floating point exception (lenny)
On Sunday 19 December 2010 16:37:01 Camaleón wrote: Hello, I am getting a floating point exception error message from Evince when opening some PDF files (a sample is linked bellow). The file gets opened but as soon as I'm reading pages (page 1, page 2, page 3...), at some point Evince closes by itself. When running Evince from command line, as soon as it breaks, I can see the above mentioned error. Sample error (PDF, ~3.1 MiB): http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF (I have tested with other PDF files from Panasonic site and they just crash in the same manner). The GIMP gives the same error: *** s...@stt008:~/Desktop$ gimp KXTG7531-MUL.PDF /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/poppler: fatal error: Floating point exception *** Can someone please confirm this problem? I have tried both Evince and the GIMP. Evince was fine started from the GUI. When started from the CLI it was fine at first, but around the 6th page I looked at it crashed thus: l...@tux:~$ evince KXTG7531-MUL.PDF Floating point exception l...@tux:~$ The GIMP failed, but with a different error message from that you got, which was the same both when started from the GUI and when started from the CLI. A box came up saying: GIMP Message Opening 'home/lisi/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF' failed: Portable Document Format plug-In could not open image. HTH Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012191920.10900.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: GRUB2 boot issue
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, John Foster jfoster81...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a new one for you GRUB2 gurus. I left my office attended by my 2 (5 7 yr. old very curious) grandsons. When about 3 minutes later I returned, my system ( which is a multiple boot of Debian Linux SID, Windows 7 Pro, Ubuntu 9,) had been rebooted form Windows7 to the GRUB2 rescue mode stalled there. I figure one of them pushed the soft reboot button restarted the system. Now I had it set to boot to Debian Linux automatically, but as I recall the GRUB2 boot-loader had beside the previous listed OS's, another load item on the menu. Which was GRUB2 rescue mode; Now I have been unable to boot the system into anything except the rescue mode The error message given is: GRUB can't find required file: x.updates. Now as I,m at work not looking at the exact message returned, I may be off a bit on the verbiage. If anyone has any ideas I would appreciate a reply to me directly as sometimes the filters get list replies. There's never any grub2 rescue mode entry; you must mean recovery mode, which boots into single-user mode. This is the grub2 manual resolution: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell (By the way, your reply-to address is John Foster@liszt.debian.org rather than your sending address, jfoster81...@gmail.com.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik=r5iqo9ha-ooing=cvvlaqwlcpbs5d=2m4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process
On 12/19/2010 02:09 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: tty) I use init 1. I don't think that init s would work - but you are probably about to tell me that it would. ;-) Yes. I am going to say, It should work. :-) Personally I wouldn't move from multiuser to single user directly. I would always reboot first and then boot into single user mode. Then when leaving single user mode reboot into multiple user mode. That way is very well tested. Doing other things /should/ work but I wouldn't be surprised to find interesting corner cases. It is definitely the road less well traveled. man init: /sbin/init [ -a ] [ -s ] [ -b ] [ -z xxx ] [ 0123456Ss ] /sbin/telinit [ -t SECONDS ] [ 0123456sSQqabcUu ] RUNLEVELS A runlevel is a software configuration of the system which allows only a selected group of processes to exist. The processes spawned by init for each of these runlevels are defined in the /etc/inittab file. Init can be in one of eight runlevels: 0-6 and S (a.k.a. s). The runlevel Runlevels S, 0, 1, and 6 are reserved. Runlevel S is used to initial- ize the system on boot. When starting runlevel S (on boot) or runlevel 1 (switching from a multi-user runlevel) the system is entering ``single-user mode'', after which the current runlevel is S. Runlevel 0 is used to halt the system; runlevel 6 is used to reboot the system. After booting through S the system automatically enters one of the multi-user runlevels 2 through 5, unless there was some problem that needs to be fixed by the administrator in single-user mode. Normally after entering single-user mode the administrator performs maintenance and then reboots the system. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e612a.6000...@pcartwright.com
Re: Poppler error: floating point exception (lenny)
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:20:10 +, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 19 December 2010 16:37:01 Camaleón wrote: I am getting a floating point exception error message from Evince when opening some PDF files (a sample is linked bellow). The file gets opened but as soon as I'm reading pages (page 1, page 2, page 3...), at some point Evince closes by itself. When running Evince from command line, as soon as it breaks, I can see the above mentioned error. (...) Can someone please confirm this problem? I have tried both Evince and the GIMP. Evince was fine started from the GUI. When started from the CLI it was fine at first, but around the 6th page I looked at it crashed thus: l...@tux:~$ evince KXTG7531-MUL.PDF Floating point exception l...@tux:~$ Yep, thanks for confirming, Lisi! :-) The GIMP failed, but with a different error message from that you got, which was the same both when started from the GUI and when started from the CLI. A box came up saying: GIMP Message Opening 'home/lisi/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF' failed: Portable Document Format plug-In could not open image. Hum... you should get the same message than me. Try with this: *** gimp /home/lisi/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF *** Close the popup window of Gimp and review the error you get in console. Not sure what to do about this... Lenny only gets updates for security issues and this looks like a plain and harmless (though annoying) error, what do you people think, should I open a bug report for this? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.19.19.50...@gmail.com
No devices found in X
Hi, Running uptodate Sid. I usually run self-compiled kernels (from kernel.org git mainline repo) with standard Debian Sid X. This has been working fine for years (except, of course, for the occasional, temporary X breakage), but starting recently (presumably after some X upgrade), X bails on startup, saying that it can't find any devices (The last few lines from the log are included below). I suspect there's something misconfigured in my kernels, since X still starts fine with a Debian stock kernel - but I haven't actually changed anything in my kernel config, which used to work fine. Has something in X or the kernel changed recently that would require me to do something different in the kernel? The graphics chipset is an Intel 945GM, powered by the i915 driver: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0090 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at d010 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] I/O ports at 1800 [size=8] Memory at c000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at d020 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K] Expansion ROM at unassigned [disabled] Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit- Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 Kernel driver in use: i915 Two recent kernel that don't work are: vmlinuz-2.6.36-lizzie-05857-gf9ba537 vmlinuz-2.6.37-rc6-lizzie-00109-g0a59228 A Debian stock one that does: vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686 The last few lines of Xorg.0.log (from a failed attempt): (II) LoadModule: intel (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so (II) Module intel: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 2.13.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) LoadModule: vesa (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa (II) UnloadModule: vesa (EE) Failed to load module vesa (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: fbdev (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev (II) UnloadModule: fbdev (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0) (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, B43, Clarkdale, Arrandale, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge (II) Primary Device is: PCI 0...@00:02:0 (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found * I can provide further information if necessary (e.g., dmesg, kernel config, and full logs to a pastebin), but I figured I'd try this first, in case anyone has any idea. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101219145659.7bd94bb8.cele...@gmail.com
Re: No devices found in X
On 2010-12-19 20:56 +0100, Celejar wrote: Running uptodate Sid. I usually run self-compiled kernels (from kernel.org git mainline repo) with standard Debian Sid X. You need to set CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y in your kernel configuration. See the recent bug reports on the xserver-xorg-video-intel package. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vd2plajg@turtle.gmx.de
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:32:10 +0100 Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Attention: long post ahead! I don't use line wrapping because it breaks long URLs. If that makes you or your e-mail client cringe, you may as well read this at http://bufferoverflow.tiddlywiki.com instead (same text, nicer formatting). *Somethings's* doing line-wrapping for you - your message contains plenty of newlines (hex 0A). And I'm not sure what you mean by line-wrapping breaking long urls. A proper line-wrapper understands urls, and won't break them (although my beloved Sylph admittedly uses a broken line-wrapper :( : http://www.sraoss.jp/pipermail/sylpheed/2010-September/004166.html Of course, some badly broken (e.g., Microsoft) MUAs will break urls while displaying them for the recipient ... Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101219165214.f1bc39f4.cele...@gmail.com
Oффшoры, oншopы и евpoпейские компaнии
- | СХEМЫ ЗAKOННОЙ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНECА: | | OФФШОРЫ, OHШOРЫ И ЕBРОПЕЙСКИЕ KOМПАНИИ. | | ПРАKТИЧЕСКИЕ CХEМЫ И РЕKОМЕНДАЦИИ| - Сeминар • 24 нoябpя • 2010 г. г. Kиeв, ул. Гopького, 172 бизнeс-центр «Пaлладиум Cити», 8 эт, oф. 814. Тeл.: (044) 331-641Ч, 592-756Ч ДOКЛАДЧИКИ Ивaннa Пилипюк — паpтнeр-консультант мeждународной кoнсалтинговой кoмпании International Consulting Group. Иpинa Hестеренко — вeдущий юpист мeждунapодной конcaлтинговой кoмпaнии International Consulting Group. Екатeрина Утиpалoва — вeдущий юриcт пo pаботе c кoмпаниями из запaднoго рeгиона, междунаpодная конcaлтинговая компaния International Consulting Group. HA CEМИНАРЕ BЫ УСЛЫШИТE OТВЕТЫ HА BОПРОСЫ: * Кaк законнo cнизить нaлoги? * Kaк cвеcти к минимуму затpаты и увeличить пpибыль? * Kaк зaщитить свoи aктивы oт любыx пoсягательств? * Мoжно ли paботать c oффшоpами? Hacколько этo зaкoннo? * Kакиe еврoпейские кoмпaнии интepесны для paботы, и пoчeму? * Kак закoннo увeличить валoвые зaтpаты своиx кoмпaний? * Ктo eсть ктo в oффшоре? Kак зaщитить сeбя в cвoeм бизнеce? * Кaк coxранить конфидeнциальность в бизнеce? * Кaк упрaвлять aктивaми c пoмощью иностpанных компaний? * Кaк нaчать бизнeс c нуля? * Kак oткрыть cчет в зарубeжном бaнкe? * И многoе дpугoe. ПРOГPAММA Блoк 1. CХEМЫ ОПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНECА C ПOМОЩЬЮ PAЗЛИЧHЫХ ИНOCТРАННЫХ KOМПАНИЙ. ПРEИМУЩЕСТВА И НEДОСТАТКИ ИСПОЛЬЗOВАНИЯ B БИЗHECЕ KOМПАНИЙ ИЗ BЫCOКОНАЛОГОВЫХ, HИЗКОНАЛОГОВЫХ, OHШОРНЫХ И ОФФШОPНЫХ ЮPИСДИKЦИЙ. Пpезентация 20 cхeм зaконного иcпoльзования иноcтpанных компaний в бизнecе * Экcпорт: вaриации cхeм. * Импopт: вapиaции cхем, измeнeние cхeм, в зaвисимoсти oт пpедпoчтений и тpeбований cтpaн-партнеров. * Влaдeние. «Скpытие» coбственника бизнесa кaк зaлог кopпоративной бeзoпaсности. * Зaкoннoе увеличeниe вaловых зaтpaт укрaинcких прeдпpиятий. * Зaщитa oт рeйдерства и дpугиx поcягaтельств. * Защитa интeллeктуaльной собcтвенности. Boзможности иноcтpанных кoмпаний. * Рeгистрация яxт и элитныx тpaнcпортных срeдств. * Пoпoлнение обopотных cpeдств. * Инвeстирование и рeинвестирование капиталa. * Кoмпaнии-копилки и другиe схeмы. Блoк 2. OФФШOPНЫЕ BОЗМOЖНОСТИ. ХAРAКТЕРИСТИКА HАИБOЛЕЕ ИHТEРЕСНЫХ C ТOЧKИ ЗPЕНИЯ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗHЕCА KOМПАНИЙ. B какиx стрaнах лучшe рeгиcтрировать кoмпaнии? Кaкиe фоpмы и виды юpидических лиц наиболeе удoбны в разныx стрaнах? Испoльзование кoмпaний из выгодныx отнoсительно нaлогoобложения и вeдения бизнеcа cтран. * Клаcсические оффшoры. Прeимущeства и нeдостатки. Хapактеристика стрaн: Бeлиз, Панамa, Cейшeлы. * Hoвaя Зелaндия – бeстселлер прoдaж, ceкpеты пoпуляpнoсти этoй юриcдикции. * Иcпoльзование eвpoпейских кoмпаний в бизнeсе. Нoвые и cтapые гopизонты нa картe Eвропы и мирa: Cингапур, Эстoния, Пoльша. * Oффшоpы в Гонкoнге и OAЭ. Возмoжности paботы c дaнными юpиcдикциями. * Beликобритания – рoдоначальница вceх оффшоpов. Возмoжности иcпользoвания aнглийcких кoмпаний в бизнесe. LLP - закoнный oффшор в Вeликобритании. Прeимущества английскиx LTD для cxeм влaдeния бизнecом и зaщиты oт поcягательств. Пpoстота и удобнoсть обcлуживания aнглийcкиx кoмпаний. * Kипр - уникaльные вoзмoжности oптимизaции бизнеcа. Ocoбенности налогoобложения дивидeндов, пpоцeнтов, pоялти. БЛOK 3. ОТЧEТНОСТЬ ИHОСТРАННЫХ КОМПAНИЙ. ОCОБЕННОСТИ CДАЧИ OТЧEТОВ ПO ИHOСТРАННЫМ КOМПАНИЯМ. * B какиx кoмпaнияx, и в кaких стpанах нужнo сдaвать буxгалтерские отчeты? Kакие компaнии пpоходят aудит? Kтo cдаeт отчeты пo компaниям? Скoлько стoит cдачa отчeтности? Bиды oтчeтов, cтрoки и цeны. * Оcобенности oтчетности eврoпейских кoмпaний. VAT-нoмер: оcoбенности пoлучeния и использoвания. B кaкиx случаяx и кoму нужeн VAT-нoмep. Измeнeниe отчeтнoсти кoмпаний, в кoтоpых eсть евpопейский номеp HДС. БЛОK 4. УПРAВЛЕНИЕ ИНOCТРАННОЙ KОМПАНИЕЙ. CТPУКТУРА, ДОЛЖHОСТНЫЕ ЛИЦA, ДОKУМЕНТЫ, ЦEНЫ. * Kто еcть ктo в оффшopе. Чeм cтруктуpа оффшoрных компaний oтличается oт всeх oстaльных? Cтpуктура компaнии, дoлжнocтные лицa, стeпень oтветcтвенности. * Чтo вxодит в пaкeт документoв пo иноcтpанной кoмпaнии: чeткий перeчень веx неoбxодимых дoкумeнтoв и уcлуг для полнoцeнной рабoты пpeдпpиятия. * Кaк зaщитить ceбя oт номинaлoв Bашей кoмпании? Koгда eсть смыcл пoльзoваться уcлугaми нoминальныx диpeктoров и aкциoнeров? * Cколькo стoит рeгистрация и oбcлуживание иноcтpанных кoмпаний? Oт чeгo завиcит cтоимость кoмпаний, и кaк знaть, зa чтo имeннo нужнo плaтить? БЛOK 5. БAHКОВСКИЙ CЧEТ HA OФФШOРЫ, OHШОРЫ И ДPУГИЕ ИHОCТРАННЫЕ КOМПАНИЙ. * Kaк oткрыть cчeт нa иноcтранную компaнию? Детaли пpoцедуры, cтоимoсть, срoки? * Kак пpaвильно выбpать бaнк для pаботы? Kpитерии выбoрa бaнкa. * Bиды бaнкoв и иx кpaткaя пpактическая xapактеристика. * Cпиcoк нeобходимой инфoрмации для oткрытия счетa в зaрубeжном банкe. Почeму бaнк можeт oтказaть
B свете нoвoго нaлогового кодeкcа
-- | BCE ДЛЯ ЧACТНОГО ПРЕДПPИНИМАТЕЛЯ. | | Кaк рабoтать ЧАCТНОМУ ПPEДПРИНИМАТЕЛЮ в 2011 гoду: | | кодeкс пpинят c пoправками Президeнта: в 2011 г. | | будeт прoдoлжать дейcтвoвать Укaз № 746 c учeтом оcобенностей, | | уcтанoвленных в Нaлoговом кодeксе. | -- Ceминaр • 27 дeкaбря • 2010 г. г. Kиев • ул. Шелкoвичнaя, 12 Тeл.: (044) 331-б4-14, 592-75-6Ч ПРОГPАММА 1. Cмогут ли быть платeльщикaми НДC чaстные предпpиниматели: нopмы HAЛOГОВОГО кодeкса c учетoм пoпpавок Пpезидeнта. 2. Одновpеменная pабота ЧП\учpeдитeль\директор c 2011 г. - eсть ли запрeт. 3. ФИHМOHИТОРИНГ: кaких oпeраций нe cтоит пpоводить. Дополнитeльный монитoринг имущеcтва. Перeчень вcеx дoпoлнитeльных уcлoвий пpи котоpых неожидaнно мoжнo пoпacть пoд финмонитоpинг. 4. Paбoта СOДРУЖЕСТВА неcкольких ЧП и прeдприятия: покупaть у ЧП или дeлать паpaллельно. Прeвышeние 500 тыc. НАХOЖДЕНИЕ BСEХ в ОДHOМ ОФФИCЕ. Eсли cодpужество связанныe лицa. Paбота пoд oдной тоpгoвой маркoй. СОТPУДНИЧЕСТВО ФИPМЫ и ЧП c 2011г. - успеeм пoдготoвиться: пpoдажа нижe себeстоимости, oбычные цeны: нoвыe peалии c 2011 г. Koгдa опeрации попадaют пoд финмoниторинг. Уплaта HДФЛ c дoлгов в 2010 г. - c кaкoй кpeдиторской зaдолженности плaтитcя HДФЛ. 5. АРEНДА\СУБАРЕНДА в 2010 г.-2011 г.: кaк прoписать вид деятельнoсти в Свидeтeльстве единoго нaлoга. 6. ПOCРЕДНИЧЕСКАЯ ДEЯТЕЛЬНОСТЬ: пoзиция cуда пpи опрeделении - чтo такoе выpучка. Чeм комисcия oтличaeтся oт поpучения, трaнcпортной экспeдиции, дpугиx поcpеднических дoговoров. ЧТO ДЕЛAТЬ СЕГOДНЯ ПОCPЕДНИКАМ нa ПPОВЕРКЕ. 7. BИДЫ ДЕЯТEЛЬHОСТИ ЧП (пpoверки выплaт пo видaм дeятельности, нe внеcенным в Cвидeтeльство eдинoгo нaлогa: кaк сегoдня мoжнo гаpантированно oтбитьcя): пpoблемы c отcутcтвием в пеpечне рaйисполкома «нужныx» видoв дeятельнoсти. Удержaние единогo сoциaльного взнoса пpи выплатe доxoда прeдпринимателю - кaк этo зaвиcит oт видoв деятeльности: пoдводный камeнь, нe учтeнный ПOПPАВКАМИ Президeнта. 8. Вeдение учeтa c 2011г., KНИГА пo ф № 10: почeму нe жeлaтeльно ТЕPЯТЬ книгу. Pacсмотрение пoрядкa зaполнeния гpaф pacходов и дoходов. Штpaфы зa непрaвильное зaполнeние. Пepиoдичность зaпoлнения (ежеднeвно...), мoгут ли оштpaфовать ЧП, сделaв контpoльную зaкупку, нeведение учeта тoвapов пo мeсту peaлизации. Запoлнeние гpафы paсходов - 3 вapианта. Kак вeсти раcходы бeз пoдтверждающих дoкумeнтов. 9. ПPИХОДНЫЕ ДOКУМEНТЫ нa ТOВAР. ШТPAФЫ, нeпpaвильное ведeниe учeта (cрaвнение пpавил рaбoты в 2010 и 2011 г.): 2-кpатный размeр, 45% ….? Kaк пpaвильно зaщитить cвои пpaва. Bыдaчa дoкумeнтов нa пoкупку тoвара (уcлуг) – мoжнo ли нe имeть дoкумeнты нa приxод тoвapа, чтo делaть, ecли иx нeт. Отрaжение выpучки пocлe каждoй опеpации: откудa взялoсь трeбование, аргумeнты пpoтив. 10.Штpаф зa нe учeт тoварно-материальных ценнoстей - пoчему покa pедко пpимeняется нa прaктике. 11.ПРOВЕРКИ. BHИМАНИЕ! Прaктикум - кaк пpoвeрить сeбя пepeд провeркой, чтoбы нe пoпаcть в штрaф 2,5 млн! (пpи обopоте 500 тыc.). Hовая пpоцeдура пpoведения пpоверок пocлe ввeдения в действиe Haлoгового кoдекcа. Действуeт ли бaзa 17 гpн. для взымaния штрaфов. Hoвая cтратегия встpeчи прoверяющих в 2011 г. Прoцeссуальные дейcтвии: чтo пoявитcя нoвогo и кaк c этим pабoтать. Полнoмочия ГНAУ 2011 г. Пpоцедура нaложения Пpимeнение штрaфoв. Пpeзумпция невинoвности: кaк будeт дeйствовать c учeтoм пoпрaвок Президeнта. Мoжeт ли oбвинeние лицa в уклoнении oт уплaты нaлогов нe мoжет оснoвываться нa рeшении контpолирующего оpгaна? Пpaвo нaлoгoплательщиков нa судебнoе oбжaлoвание peшeний нaлoговых oргaнов - чтo зaлoжено в Налoговый кoдекс c учeтoм попpавок Прeзидeнта. 12.НАEМНЫЕ PAБОТНИКИ. Попpавки Президeнта к НАЛOГОВОМУ кодeкcу: мoжнo ли пepеквалифицировать тpудoвыe в гpажданско-правовые. Заключениe гpаждaнско-правовых догoвoров c paботниками: c кaкими катeгoриями pабoтников нeльзя зaключaть, cpавнительная тaблица налoгoобложения пo тpудoвoму и граждaнско-правовому. ГPAЖДAНСКО-ПРАВОВЫЕ ДОГOBОРА C PАБOТНИКАМИ - нoвые пpaвила начислeния eдинoгo сoциального взнocа c 2011 г. Пoчeму бoльшеe количecтво граждaнско-правовых дoгoворов пoпaдает пoд налoгообложение. Поpядок нaчиcления и oтpажения в отчeтнoсти eдинoго сoциaльного взнoсa - кaкие будут прoцессы, кoтoрых нe былo дo cиx поp. НAPУШЕНИЕ ЗAКOНОДАТЕЛЬСТВА ПPO ТPУД: c чeм ceгoдня стaлкивaются пpедприниматели, кaкиe oшибки пpиводят к УГOЛОВНОЙ OТВЕТСТВЕННОСТИ. Kтo тaкиe члeны cемьи и кaк oтличить тex, котоpые принимaют учacтие в прeдпpинимательской дeятeльнoсти - новыe пpaвилa c 2011г.. 13.НAЛИЧHОЕ ДЕHЕЖНОЕ ОБPAЩЕНИЕ. Kакиe дoкумeнты выдавaть пoкупaтeлю (BЫДAЧA ВCEГДА - A HE ТOЛЬKО «ПO ТРEБОВАНИЮ»). Kакие
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
#include hallo.h * Klistvud [Sat, Dec 18 2010, 10:32:10PM]: First of all, let me thank all of you who responded. As promised, I am giving feedback to the list so that future purchasers of Western Digital WD EARS/EADS models and similar Advanced Format hard drives may benefit. Err, what? EADS don't use AF, TTBOMK. The first thing of notice is that the Load_Cycle_Count of the drive heads increases every 8 seconds by default. As seen on the Internet, That only refers to EARS. And it's wrong. Umount everything on that disk and wait a while, no loading/unloading should stop. What really happens is that the disk parks after 8 seconds when it's IDLE. Which is ok when you either read or write stuff all the time or don't do anything at all. It is not ok if you use them as system disks where a few bytes are written every couple of seconds and certain popular Linux filesystems like to flush (means: write out to disk) that data every 10..15 seconds (just a bit more than 8 seconds) and so causing the LCC growing quite quickly over time. So DO NOT use an EARS drive as SYSTEM DISK. this may pose a problem in the long run, since these drives are guaranteed to sustain a limited number of such head parking cycles. The number given varies from 300.000 to 1.000.000, depending on where you look. The first thing I did was, therefore, launch a There is no reason to put the word guaranteed into double-quotes or refer to weird sites. Just have a look at the official data sheet and the common definition of MTBF please. the WD proprietary utility wdidle3.exe, and the first link obtained by googling for wdidle3.exe did the trick: http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=609sid=113 ... thousand ticks overnight. Interestingly enough, the drive loaded and unloaded its heads at the amazing rate of twice per second even ... disabled to every 300 seconds, which appears to be the maximum interval allowed. It would seem that, for the time being at least, this made the Load_Cycle_Count stay put at 22413. Whew! Err, what? You play with a dangerous toy which was not designed for your drive and you wonder that it's all messed up now? Now, the second issue: the hardware/logical sector alignment. Since it will affects real-world transfer speeds, let's first check out the theoretical speeds of this drive in this particular environment -- a 3GHz Pentium-IV motherboard with a humble integrated SATA controller (I think it's an early SATA-I generation). My company had a lot of them. The SATA controllers were crap performance-wise. I remember a colleague who got a shiny new OCZ SSD drive which was supposed to deliver 200MB/s but never got beyond 70MB/s on his system. The solution was a 15EUR PCIe controller card which suddenly make it work as expected. obelix# hdparm -tT /dev/sda Err, what does this have to do with pro/contra of logical sector sizes? Counter-example, WD20EARS on an AMD-78xx mainboard: /dev/sdc: Timing cached reads: 8042 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4023.46 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 360 MB in 3.02 seconds = 119.38 MB/sec ignored the rest of the posting, ENOTIME to read all of the voodoo Eduard. -- Naja, Garbage Collector eben. Holt den Müll sogar vom Himmel. (Heise Trollforum über Java in der Flugzeugsteuerung) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101219224217.ga5...@rotes76.wohnheim.uni-kl.de
Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process
On Sunday 19 December 2010 19:09:46 Bob Proulx wrote: I don't think that init s would work - but you are probably about to tell me that it would. ;-) Yes. I am going to say, It should work. :-) My curtiosity being even more 'satiable than the elephant's child, I tried. The short answer is it doesn't work. The longer answer is that it threw the computer I was trying it on into a fit of the sulks: the konsole kept going with a root command prompt until there were enough to fill the screen. At that point it froze (still in the GUI) and the keyboard stopped working completely. I finally managed to sort it out by changing keyboard 3 times (2 x ps2 and 1 x USB), and rebooting twice, when the mouse at least (and at last) decided to wake up and I could do anything at all. I was about to resort to the on/off button (a very extreme solution!). After the first reboot the status had barely changed, but a second reboot returned (or seems to have returned) the system to normality. The messing around with keyboards probably did nothing more than prevent me from using the off button on the front of the computer, by giving me the illusion that I was doing something. So - Oh my friends be warned by me! init 1 is fine. init s is not. Paul has given a very clear exposition of the facts either above of below, depending on how you thread your emails. Oh - and I ought to have learned from the elephant's child that 'satiable curtiosity is sometimes highly undesirable. But it is probably a bit late now for me to learn. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012192302.29029.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Poppler error: floating point exception (lenny)
On Sunday 19 December 2010 19:50:09 Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:20:10 +, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 19 December 2010 16:37:01 Camaleón wrote: I am getting a floating point exception error message from Evince when opening some PDF files (a sample is linked bellow). The file gets opened but as soon as I'm reading pages (page 1, page 2, page 3...), at some point Evince closes by itself. When running Evince from command line, as soon as it breaks, I can see the above mentioned error. (...) Can someone please confirm this problem? [snip] The GIMP failed, but with a different error message from that you got, which was the same both when started from the GUI and when started from the CLI. A box came up saying: GIMP Message Opening 'home/lisi/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF' failed: Portable Document Format plug-In could not open image. Hum... you should get the same message than me. Try with this: *** gimp /home/lisi/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF *** Close the popup window of Gimp and review the error you get in console. l...@tux:~$ gimp /home/lisi/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/poppler: fatal error: Floating point exception l...@tux:~$ So it makes a difference whether one uses the relative path or the absolute. Odd! Not sure what to do about this... Lenny only gets updates for security issues and this looks like a plain and harmless (though annoying) error, what do you people think, should I open a bug report for this? :-? Probably worth mentioning, if only to reduce the risk that it will be perpetuated in Squeeze. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012192310.43217.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process
Lisi wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: probably about to tell me that it would. ;-) Yes. I am going to say, It should work. :-) My curtiosity being even more 'satiable than the elephant's child, I tried. The short answer is it doesn't work. Note that I didn't say that it /did/ work. I said it /should/ work. I said there might be interesting corner cases. The longer answer is that it threw the computer I was trying it on into a fit of the sulks: the konsole kept going with a root command prompt until there were enough to fill the screen. You did it from an X11 session running KDE and a Konsole? A brave soul indeed! Because surely you realize that all of those processes will be (or at least should be) killed when transitioning to single user mode. In single user mode only the minimum system should be running. All that you should be left with should be a text console. Everything else should have been killed during the transition. Therefore to prevent disruption you would want to transition using the text console. Because otherwise your interface will be killed. At that point it froze (still in the GUI) and the keyboard stopped working completely. I finally managed to sort it out by changing keyboard 3 times (2 x ps2 and 1 x USB), and rebooting twice, when the mouse at least (and at last) decided to wake up and I could do anything at all. I was about to resort to the on/off button (a very extreme solution!). After the first reboot the status had barely changed, but a second reboot returned (or seems to have returned) the system to normality. Note also that I did say I would only go into single user mode from a reboot and not from multiuser mode directly. I wouldn't transition to single user mode from multiuser mode directly myself. I recommended against it. But you had to try it! Okay. But you are cutting your own path then! :-) Stay on the well traveled path unless you want to be a trailblazer. So - Oh my friends be warned by me! init 1 is fine. init s is not. Paul has given a very clear exposition of the facts either above of below, depending on how you thread your emails. Oh - and I ought to have learned from the elephant's child that 'satiable curtiosity is sometimes highly undesirable. But it is probably a bit late now for me to learn. Too funny! Sometimes curiousity kills the cat but if the cat survives then it is a smarter cat. :-) Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Problems with Pacemaker + Corosync after reboot
Hi all! I'm beginning to test HA clusters with GNU/Linux and for that I decided to try Pacemaker + Corosync in Debian Lenny following this [1] howto. Both packages were installed from the Backports repositories. But I am observing that if after configuration I reboot a node, it fails to join to the cluster after the boot. This is what I see in /var/log/daemon.log: -- Dec 19 17:13:13 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] WARN: route_ais_message: Sending message to local.crmd failed: unknown (rc=-2) Dec 19 17:13:13 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] WARN: route_ais_message: Sending message to local.cib failed: unknown (rc=-2) Dec 19 17:13:13 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] WARN: route_ais_message: Sending message to local.attrd failed: unknown (rc=-2) Dec 19 17:13:13 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] WARN: route_ais_message: Sending message to local.cib failed: unknown (rc=-2) Dec 19 17:13:14 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] WARN: route_ais_message: Sending message to local.cib failed: unknown (rc=-2) Dec 19 17:13:14 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] WARN: route_ais_message: Sending message to local.cib failed: unknown (rc=-2) Dec 19 17:13:21 atlantis corosync[1508]: [TOTEM ] A processor failed, forming new configuration. Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] notice: pcmk_peer_update: Transitional membership event on ring 72: memb=1, new=0, lost=1 Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] info: pcmk_peer_update: memb: atlantis 335544586 Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] info: pcmk_peer_update: lost: daedalus 369099018 Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] notice: pcmk_peer_update: Stable membership event on ring 72: memb=1, new=0, lost=0 Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] info: pcmk_peer_update: MEMB: atlantis 335544586 Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] info: ais_mark_unseen_peer_dead: Node daedalus was not seen in the previous transition Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] info: update_member: Node 369099018/daedalus is now: lost Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [pcmk ] info: send_member_notification: Sending membership update 72 to 0 children Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [TOTEM ] A processor joined or left the membership and a new membership was formed. Dec 19 17:13:25 atlantis corosync[1508]: [MAIN ] Completed service synchronization, ready to provide service. -- # ps auxf [...] root 1508 0.1 1.9 182624 4880 ?Ssl 15:52 0:22 /usr/sbin/corosync root 1539 0.0 1.2 168144 3240 ?S15:52 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/corosync root 1540 0.0 1.2 168144 3240 ?S15:52 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/corosync root 1541 0.0 1.2 168144 3240 ?S15:52 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/corosync root 1542 0.0 1.2 168144 3240 ?S15:52 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/corosync root 1543 0.0 1.2 168144 3240 ?S15:52 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/corosync root 1544 0.0 1.2 168144 3240 ?S15:52 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/corosync From what I see in the howto, the output should be something like this: root 29980 0.0 0.8 44304 3808 ?Ssl 20:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/corosync root 29986 0.0 2.4 10812 10812 ?SLs 20:55 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/heartbeat/stonithd 102 29987 0.0 0.8 13012 3804 ?S20:55 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/heartbeat/cib root 29988 0.0 0.4 5444 1800 ?S20:55 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/heartbeat/lrmd 102 29989 0.0 0.5 12364 2368 ?S20:55 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/heartbeat/attrd 102 29990 0.0 0.5 8604 2304 ?S20:55 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/heartbeat/pengine 102 29991 0.0 0.6 12648 3080 ?S20:55 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/heartbeat/crmd I also tried compiling Pacemaker using these [2] steps, but I get the same result. Thanks in advance for your reply. Regards, Daniel [1] http://www.clusterlabs.org/wiki/Debian_Lenny_HowTo [2] http://www.clusterlabs.org/wiki/Install#Building_from_Source -- Fingerprint: BFB3 08D6 B4D1 31B2 72B9 29CE 6696 BF1B 14E6 1D37 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux Lenny - Linux user #188.598 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process
On 12/19/2010 06:02 PM, Lisi wrote: So - Oh my friends be warned by me! init 1 is fine. init s is not. Paul has given a very clear exposition of the facts either above of below, depending on how you thread your emails. I guess ( after reading Bob's reply) I forgot to mention, NORMALLY you do those from the ATL-F1 text login screen, where you login as ROOT... NOT from the X_windows ( gnome, kde...) my usual init commands are: # init 6 ( thats just a reboot) # init 0 ( turn the sucker OFF) # init 1 ( bring me down to single user mode!) # init 2 ( start the X-windows all the rest of the normal services) I used to use init S/s back in the UNIX days, and it used to mean something, probably not the same anymore.. It used to bring it down to single user umount all file systems EXCEPT root.. but I see from the man init : -s, S, single Single user mode boot. In this mode /etc/inittab is examined and the bootup rc scripts are usually run before the single user mode shell is started. now they have -b -b, emergency Boot directly into a single user shell without running any other startup scripts. so, there are still multiple ways to get booted, even in single user mode.. YMMV :) Oh - and I ought to have learned from the elephant's child that 'satiable curtiosity is sometimes highly undesirable. But it is probably a bit late now for me to learn. but you really didn't HURT anything, right? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0e9e5b.6000...@pcartwright.com
Re: Poppler error: floating point exception (lenny)
On Sunday 19 December 2010 10:50:09 am Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:20:10 +, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 19 December 2010 16:37:01 Camaleón wrote: I am getting a floating point exception error message from Evince when opening some PDF files (a sample is linked bellow). The file gets opened but as soon as I'm reading pages (page 1, page 2, page 3...), at some point Evince closes by itself. When running Evince from command line, as soon as it breaks, I can see the above mentioned error. (...) Can someone please confirm this problem? I have tried both Evince and the GIMP. Evince was fine started from the GUI. When started from the CLI it was fine at first, but around the 6th page I looked at it crashed thus: l...@tux:~$ evince KXTG7531-MUL.PDF Floating point exception l...@tux:~$ Yep, thanks for confirming, Lisi! :-) The GIMP failed, but with a different error message from that you got, which was the same both when started from the GUI and when started from the CLI. A box came up saying: GIMP Message Opening 'home/lisi/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF' failed: Portable Document Format plug-In could not open image. Hum... you should get the same message than me. Try with this: *** gimp /home/lisi/KXTG7531-MUL.PDF *** Close the popup window of Gimp and review the error you get in console. Not sure what to do about this... Lenny only gets updates for security issues and this looks like a plain and harmless (though annoying) error, what do you people think, should I open a bug report for this? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón Squeeze (evince) handles pdf's much better than Lenny, one of the big reasons I upgraded to Squeeze. The poppler 'stuff' has been getting improvements, good reason to upgrade for me -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012191803.32395.gomadtr...@gci.net
Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
Hi, I am giving my parents a laptop for Christmas this year that I put Lenny on and as I'm on the other side of the country, want to make sure they stay on Lenny until I am home in the future to upgrade to Squeeze after it officially becomes the Stable release. I've seen some emails about using Lenny instead of stable in the /etc/apt/sources.list to force aptitude to keep a Lenny system. Is this the official/accepted method? Currently I have the standard stable entries in sources.list, plus backports. Nothing fancy about the installation, stock kernel, etc. Thank you, Mark
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 07:12:48PM -0800, Mark wrote: I've seen some emails about using Lenny instead of stable in the /etc/apt/sources.list to force aptitude to keep a Lenny system. Is this the official/accepted method? Yes, that's absolutely normal to use either 'lenny' (with lowercase 'l'!) or 'stable'. You may also use 'squeeze' instead of 'testing' and 'sid' instead of 'unstable'. -- Regards, Alexander Batischev 1024D/69093C81 F870 A381 B5F5 D2A1 1B35 4D63 A1A7 1C77 6909 3C81 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [SOLVED] Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Alexander Batischev eual...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 07:12:48PM -0800, Mark wrote: I've seen some emails about using Lenny instead of stable in the /etc/apt/sources.list to force aptitude to keep a Lenny system. Is this the official/accepted method? Yes, that's absolutely normal to use either 'lenny' (with lowercase 'l'!) or 'stable'. You may also use 'squeeze' instead of 'testing' and 'sid' instead of 'unstable'. Thank you, Alexander, this is exactly what I wanted to know. I will use lowercase 'l' as you suggest. Mark
Re: No devices found in X
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:25:55 +0100 Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2010-12-19 20:56 +0100, Celejar wrote: Running uptodate Sid. I usually run self-compiled kernels (from kernel.org git mainline repo) with standard Debian Sid X. You need to set CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y in your kernel configuration. See the recent bug reports on the xserver-xorg-video-intel package. Right you are, as usual. We have this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=606288 So I fixed that, and now I seemed to be worse off than before - the system seemed to just hang early on in the boot process with a blank screen. I thought about this a bit, and realized that this was happening right around the time that the system might be trying to switch to the framebuffer, or something like that. I don't particularly like the framebuffer, and I've never needed it before, so I don't know much about it. I still haven't figured out how to get the framebuffer working (if that's indeed the problem), but I discovered that I can get into X by just waiting until the HDD stops churning, and then blindly typing 'startxCR'. [How's that for a broken system - X, but no console ;)] I've checked the framebuffer section of my kernel config, and made sure that FB_I810 is enabled, but the problem remains. Am I on the right track? Do I need anything else? Looking around some more, I see that the Gentoo Wiki claims that with Intel and KMS the framebuffer drivers should *not* be built, and *building* them may actually cause black screens! Can anyone point me to a proper explanation of what I need to do to get the console working here? http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Framebuffer [I'm pretty sure that I've tried both with FB_I810 enabled and disabled, but perhaps I always really had it enabled. If no one has a better suggestion, I suppose I'll have to try again with it disabled just to make sure.] Thanks, Sven, Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101219225655.86eeb507.cele...@gmail.com
External hdd changing device node mid-use
I have an external usb 2.0 LG hard disk. It is part of an md array which is in turn part of an lvm array. The strange thing is that while the drive is in use, it will suddenly change device nodes, for example from /dev/sda to /dev/sdb. This will cause the md driver to mark it as faulty. This is very disruptive. Why is this happening and how to solve it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0f02ae.1090...@gmail.com
