Re: Good news on claws-mail

berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: >> Do you use tmux? > > No, I do not really see the interest of using it, I must admit it. One advantage is that you can detach from the session and even log out and come back later, and it also survives the X server going down. -- Again we must be afraid

Re: iceweasel "Video can't be played because the file is corrupt"

On 27/10/14 07:18, Bob Holtzman wrote: Uhh, maybe look yet again. Mine says 24.6.0. To make sure I just ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade with no change to browser or system. I suggest to everyone wanting to know the available versions of some Debian package using . For iceweasel in all

Re: Screen doesn't turn off

On Oct 26, 2014 6:08 PM, "Alan Greenberger" wrote: > > On 2014-10-23, Catalin Soare wrote: > > --001a11397ac09df76505061dfacf > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Hi, > > > > I've got 2 computera, both running Debian Wheezy, all updates applied. One > > of them seems to ignore the

Re: iceweasel "Video can't be played because the file is corrupt"

On 27/10/14 18:45, Simon Hollenbach wrote: > On 27/10/14 07:18, Bob Holtzman wrote: >> Uhh, maybe look yet again. Mine says 24.6.0. To make sure I just ran >> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade with no change to browser or system. > > I suggest to everyone wanting to know the available versions of

Re: Debian and upstream choices

Please do not Cc me personally. Hello Lee, Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, 00:05:03 schrieb lee: > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. > > On > > any account, my attempt to bring this upstream did not produce the outcome > > I want

Re: debian-installer grub install problem

Hi On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 09:06:26PM -0700, Ric Marques wrote: > I need to install wheezy via pxe boot to many (hundreds) of systems. > The problem I am currently running into in my testing is that my > boot drive is enumerated by udev as /dev/sdat in many of those > systems, and the grub-install

Exim 4 configuration/package problems

Hello, I'm having a problem which stems from me accidentally deleting the /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template file. I figured it would be a simple matter of removing and re-installing the package, but it does not seem to be. I have even tried purging. Currently, if I try to do a purge of exim4, t

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:54:38 + Paul Duncan wrote: Hello Paul, >Currently, if I try to do a purge of exim4, this is what happens: exim4 is a meta-package that pulls in various others. It does not contain the file you deleted. A search at https://packages.debian.org/ shows that exim4.conf.t

Re: reInstalling my laptop

On 10/26/2014 3:17 PM, Jean-Marc wrote: > Thank so much for your answers. > After reading them in the list archives, I think I will go for: > - no dedicated partition for /boot; For my new debian groupware server (sogo, working great so far), I just installed with the defaults, which apparently i

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:12:34 + Brad Rogers wrote: Hello, >is in exim4-config. Try re-installing that. Should have said "...just that." -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" I ain't got no time for intellectual

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

Hi Brad, Thanks very much for that. Purging exim4-config and then doing a complete apt-get install of exim4 did the trick :-) Cheers, Paul. On 27/10/14 11:12, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:54:38 + Paul Duncan wrote: Hello Paul, Currently, if I try to do a purge of exim4,

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:37:32PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: > >> > >> :~# df -h > >> FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > ... > >> /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home > > >

Re: Installing Debian remotely in an unmanaged VPS

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 04:17:55PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > I'd like to install Debian in an unmanaged VPS which has Debian > installed already. This is so that I can customize the installation > by using LVM for instance. I'm following >

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:32:29 + Paul Duncan wrote: Hello Paul, >Thanks very much for that. Purging exim4-config and then doing a >complete apt-get install of exim4 did the trick :-) You're welcome. Although I was far from sure that it would work, I had my fingers crossed. :-) -- Regar

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Am 26.10.2014 23:38, schrieb lee: >> libsystemd0 is just 140 KiB and contains utility functions that might be >> useful for programs interfacing with systemd. It is absolutely harmless >> on systems with another init system, it will just tell the programs that >> systemd is not running. >> >> logge

Re: Strange behavior in real terminals

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 03:06:04PM -0600, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > Hello. > > I noticed that by using the cursor keys in the default terminals (Ctrl+Alt+1 > to 6) one can move the cursor to empty lines. Is this how it is supposed to > behave?. No. Bash usually hooks the Up and Down cursor k

Re: Good news on claws-mail

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 02:41:26PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 23.10.2014 20:40, lee a écrit : > >berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > > > >>The only problem is bash, here: it is unable to handle > >>multi-instances, so the histories are lost more or less randomly when

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Στις 27-10-2014 14:53, Christian Seiler έγραψε: To me a lot of the anti-systemd response here seems to be a purely gut-driven emotional response. I realize that what kind of preferences we have in the software we want to use has a large emotional component. For example, I don't think you can put

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Στις 27-10-2014 16:05, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis έγραψε: Στις 27-10-2014 14:53, Christian Seiler έγραψε: To me a lot of the anti-systemd response here seems to be a purely gut-driven emotional response. I realize that what kind of preferences we have in the software we want to use has a large emo

Re: Who's locking down the code?

Στις 25-10-2014 20:30, goli...@riseup.net έγραψε: On 2014-10-25 12:14, Laurent Bigonville wrote: golinux wrote: Would appreciate comments on this observation: "Look at the source code (while you're at it, note who are the upstream maintainers of util-linux). Even they (so far) allow compilatio

Re: Who's locking down the code?

This is something called "util-linux-ng" which isn't even in Debian. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.

Re: iceweasel "Video can't be played because the file is corrupt"

On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:18:28 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: >On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 08:41:11PM +0100, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: -- 8< -- >> Look again - the version of Iceweasel in stable is 31.2.0, Debian has >> started to provide the ES

Re: Who's locking down the code?

Στις 27-10-2014 16:37, John Hasler έγραψε: This is something called "util-linux-ng" which isn't even in Debian. Plz, prove that i'm wrong. Quotting, "util-linux is a standard package of the Linux operating system. A fork, util-linux-ng—with ng meaning "next generation"—was created when devel

Re: Who's locking down the code?

On 27/10/14 14:37, John Hasler wrote: This is something called "util-linux-ng" which isn't even in Debian. The internet tells me that the current upstream incarnation of util-linux was called "util-linux-ng" between 2006-2010, and apparently has not had its mailing list renamed when the proje

Re: EFI SecureBoot and Trusted Computing in Debian

* Marty: > What I call "the manifesto" [1] claims that UEFI SecureBoot is needed > in a "post Snowden World." I don't think it's true. Apple and some Android devices are already locked down very tightly, and it is not clear that this has helped to protect users' privacy and prevent access to sto

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Paul Duncan wrote: > Thanks very much for that. Purging exim4-config and then doing a complete > apt-get install of exim4 did the trick :-) For the record, you don't need to purge and reinstall to get back configuration files you may have accidentally deleted. Just use: UCF

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

Am 27.10.2014 15:05, schrieb Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > Στις 27-10-2014 14:53, Christian Seiler έγραψε: >> To me a lot of the anti-systemd response here seems to be a purely >> gut-driven emotional response. I realize that what kind of preferences >> we have in the software we want to use has a la

Re: Linux kernel version for Jessie

Le 27.10.2014 01:12, Santiago Vila a écrit : On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: what kernel version will Jessie have when it became stable ? Is there any chance for newer version than 3.16.x (for example 3.17.x, 3.18.x). Is this important at all? You will alw

Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

I am interesting in using Jessie. The Debian page at https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ presents me with 4 ISO's: Beta 1, Beta 2, Weekly, Daily. When it comes to stability, which one is the best? Also, a sub question: the following line confuses me: "Installing with the Debian-Instal

apt.conf.d: Multiple declarations of one value?

Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to specify a configuration option in apt.conf.d multiple times and all values will be used? Example: $ cat 50unattended-upgrades [...] Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern { "origin=Debian,archive=${distro_codename},label=Debian-Security"; }; [...]

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

softwatt: > I am interesting in using Jessie. > The Debian page at https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > presents me with 4 ISO's: Beta 1, Beta 2, Weekly, Daily. > > When it comes to stability, which one is the best? What do you mean exactly when you say "stability"? The latest beta

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:24 PM, softwatt wrote: > I am interesting in using Jessie. > The Debian page at https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > presents me with 4 ISO's: Beta 1, Beta 2, Weekly, Daily. > > When it comes to stability, which one is the best? If you're concerned about stab

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote: > | If you read only one document before installing, read our Installation > | Howto, a quick walkthrough of the installation process. > http://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apa.html > > It mentions four installation methods. That's four diff

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

On 10/27/2014 07:58 PM, Eric Sharkey wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote: >> > | If you read only one document before installing, read our Installation >> > | Howto, a quick walkthrough of the installation process. >> > http://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apa.html >> >

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

On 10/27/2014 07:53 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote:> I'd just try the most current daily build. I expect it to work > for most cases. On 10/27/2014 07:56 PM, Eric Sharkey wrote: > If you want to try it out, the latest named > beta release is probably the next best. Those are two conflicting opinions,

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

Also, when Jessie becomes stable, will an "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" give me the same stable version, regardless of which base system I installed? (Daily, Weekly,Beta) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:25 PM, softwatt wrote: > On 10/27/2014 07:53 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote:> I'd just try the most > current daily build. I expect it to work >> for most cases. > > On 10/27/2014 07:56 PM, Eric Sharkey wrote: >> If you want to try it out, the latest named >> beta release is pr

Re: Debian and upstream choices

Martin Steigerwald writes: > Please do not Cc me personally. > > Hello Lee, > > Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, 00:05:03 schrieb lee: >> Martin Steigerwald writes: >> > Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. >> > On >> > any account, my attempt to bring this upstre

Re: Check whether an update for a particular package is available without upgrading

On Du, 26 oct 14, 14:54:45, Keith Christian wrote: > Hi Andrei, > > Thanks for the extra commands. Unfortunately, some don't work on my > Wheezy system, are you using a more recent version of aptitude or > apt-get perhaps? No, just a few typos, sorry. > Here is some output: > > aptitude searc

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

On Lu, 27 oct 14, 20:27:57, softwatt wrote: > Also, when Jessie becomes stable, will an "apt-get update && apt-get > dist-upgrade" give me the same stable version, regardless of which base > system I installed? (Daily, Weekly,Beta) Same package versions, but that doesn't necessarily mean the syst

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

On Lu, 27 oct 14, 19:24:25, softwatt wrote: > > Also, a sub question: the following line confuses me: "Installing with > the Debian-Installer". I am assuming the "installer" is the bootable ISO > file. The title seems to imply there are other ways to install Debian. > are there? Debootstrap was

Re: apt.conf.d: Multiple declarations of one value?

On Lu, 27 oct 14, 18:34:04, mad wrote: > Hi! > > Does anyone know if it is possible to specify a configuration option in > apt.conf.d multiple times and all values will be used? > > Example: > > $ cat 50unattended-upgrades > [...] > Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern { > "origin=Debian,

Need help setting up printing in Jessie

I'm running Jessie on an HP Pentium host that's a several years old. Desktop software is Xfce4 and CUPS from a Debian repository, as is all software on the box. Printing works for the LibreOffice suite, but not for Emacs23-lucid, or for plain text files. What do I need to do to get them configured?

Re: Check whether an update for a particular package is available without upgrading

And using <> (sans the middle 'e') it works great. Thank you. Keith On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 26 oct 14, 14:54:45, Keith Christian wrote: >> Hi Andrei, >> >> Thanks for the extra commands. Unfortunately, some don't work on my >> Wheezy system, are

Re: Who's locking down the code?

On 10/27/2014 10:14 AM, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: Στις 25-10-2014 20:30, goli...@riseup.net έγ�αψε: On 2014-10-25 12:14, Laurent Bigonville wrote: golinux wrote: Would appreciate comments on this observation: "Look at the source code (while you're at it, note who are the upstr

free driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon

free driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon anyone know if this driver supports the cross-fire functions available in the asus mother board that manages this type of card. -- JOhn Foster -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: setup the PMU to generate an interrupt on x number of LLC misses

Emanuel Berg writes: > "Devrin Talen" writes: > >> To block on accesses to a file until it actually has >> data for you try reading up on the `select` call: >> >> % man 2 select > > That would be great because that is exactly what I > need. However I didn't get it to work. I always get > "N

Re: Need help setting up printing in Jessie

Paul E Condon writes: > I'm running Jessie on an HP Pentium host that's a several years old. > Desktop software is Xfce4 and CUPS from a Debian repository, as is all > software on the box. Printing works for the LibreOffice suite, but not > for Emacs23-lucid, or for plain text files. What do I ne

Lets make `eudev + uselessd` Debian packages?

Hey guys, I would like to evaluate both `eudev` (or any other *udev), plus `uselessd`, on Debian sid/testing. Lets do it?! I' m planning to achieve, at least, "CGroups Process" with `uselessd` (no init scripts). If things goes well, I think that `uselessd + new udev` might be a good path to

Re: Lets make `eudev + uselessd` Debian packages?

On Ma, 28 oct 14, 00:20:24, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > > I would like to evaluate both `eudev` (or any other *udev), plus > `uselessd`, on Debian sid/testing. There's already a Request For Package (RFP) bug[1] against the wnpp[2] pseudo-package, you might want to post your progress there. I'd sug

systemd vs init

this email is intended for my learning purpose only. i am a debian user for many years and have been working on different services.i am not a high level linux kernel hacker just working like a normal system admin as they suppose to work. however now a days i am hearing too much about systemd vs i