Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le dimanche 23 novembre 2014, S L a écrit... Dégooglisons Internet (et décholestérolons-nous la vie) Framadrive en 2015... http://degooglisons-internet.org/liste/ https://duckduckgo.com -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :

HS_Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread mad_er...@aol.fr
On 11/23/2014 01:10 AM, S L wrote: Le 23 novembre 2014 00:11, Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Est-il possible d'accéder à Google Drive comme on peut le faire avec Dropbox Bonjour Dégooglisons Internet (et décholestérolons-nous la vie) Framadrive en 2015...

HS_Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread mad_er...@aol.fr
On 11/23/2014 11:19 AM, Jean-Michel OLTRA wrote: Dégooglisons Internet (et décholestérolons-nous la vie) Framadrive en 2015... http://degooglisons-internet.org/liste/ https://duckduckgo.com Excellente idée mais le duck n'est pas très performant. En attendant mieux, basé sur G mais sans

Re: [debian] PC portable compatible Debian : Asus T100

2014-11-23 Thread andre_debian
Désolé de reprendre ce fil déjà ancien, mais Noël approche... L'Asus T100 fonctionne t-il bien sous Linux Debian ? aussi la rapidité, réactivité... ainsi que l'écran tactile ? Il doit se décliner en plusieurs versions, si vous avez un conseil sur un modèle de la gamme T100. Merci. André --

Re: HS_Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le dimanche 23 novembre 2014, mad_er...@aol.fr a écrit... Excellente idée mais le duck n'est pas très performant. En attendant mieux, basé sur G mais sans les inconvénients de G https://startpage.com/fra/? https://startpage.com/fra/privacy-policy.html? Pourquoi pas ixquick

Re: HS_Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread mad_er...@aol.fr
On 11/23/2014 01:15 PM, Jean-Michel OLTRA wrote: Excellente idée mais le duck n'est pas très performant. En attendant mieux, basé sur G mais sans les inconvénients de G https://startpage.com/fra/? https://startpage.com/fra/privacy-policy.html? Pourquoi pas ixquick directement ? La

Re: HS_Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread Rhatay Sami
Excellente idée, mais le duck n'est pas très performant. Hello, j'essaye d'utiliser duckduckgo au maximum depuis quelques temps, et je n'ai que rarement besoin de passer sur G. pour trouver des résultats plus pertinents. Les bangs de duckduckgo sont supers pratiques et font gagner pas mal de

Re: [HS] Faire défiler des images sur une bande son

2014-11-23 Thread moi-meme
Le Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:00:02 +0100, Cyrille a écrit : Je voudrais mettre dessus des images pour en faire un AVI Toutes les images (une centaine) sont stockées dans un dossier. package dvd-slideshow avec des utilitaires -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :

Re: HS_Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread Rhatay Sami
Dégooglisons Internet (et décholestérolons-nous la vie) Framadrive en 2015... http://degooglisons-internet.org/liste/ Librement, Stef http://bn.parinux.org/p/agenda Bonjour Je soutiens cette démarche. Débarrassons nous de la peste Google comme nous nous sommes débarrassés de la peste

Re: [HS] Faire défiler des images sur une bande son

2014-11-23 Thread Cyrille
Merci bizarrement openshot s'installe sans problème aujourd'hui. Il devait y avoir un pb avec le serveur. Je vais essayer ces 2 utilitaires graphiques ainsi que la ligne de commande que l'on m'a filée en privé ! Bon dimanche à tous ! Cyrille -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une

Re: HS_Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread mad_er...@aol.fr
On 11/23/2014 02:09 PM, Rhatay Sami wrote: Les bangs de duckduckgo sont supers pratiques et font gagner pas mal de temps si on sait les utiliser. S'il faut sacrifier un peu de pertinence et de qualité pour un peu plus de liberté ... ça vaut le coup :-) Oui mais ces fonctionnalités fournies

Re: [HS] Faire défiler des images sur une bande son

2014-11-23 Thread Belaïd
bonjour, essai Kino, très simple d'utilisation Le 22 nov. 2014 19:54, Cyrille cyri...@cbiot.fr a écrit : Bonsoir J'ai enregistré un MP3. Je voudrais mettre dessus des images pour en faire un AVI Toutes les images (une centaine) sont stockées dans un dossier. Quel programme peut faire cela,

Re: HS_Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread Rhatay Sami
Excellente idée mais le duck n'est pas très performant. Hello, j'essaye d'utiliser duckduckgo au maximum depuis quelques temps, et je n'ai que rarement besoin de passer sur G. pour trouver des résultats plus pertinents. Les bangs de duckduckgo sont supers pratiques et font gagner pas mal de

Re: [HS] Faire défiler des images sur une bande son

2014-11-23 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Salut, Kino ? Il me semble qu'il est resté bloqué à la SD. Pour des photos la HD est quand même plus agréable ... Gaëtan Le Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:26:10 +0100 Belaïd oblivion.ik...@gmail.com a écrit: bonjour, essai Kino, très simple d'utilisation Le 22 nov. 2014 19:54, Cyrille cyri...@cbiot.fr

Re: [HS] Faire défiler des images sur une bande son

2014-11-23 Thread Belaïd
a ok, je n'avais pas vu qu'il voulait du hd Le 23 nov. 2014 14:49, Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit : Salut, Kino ? Il me semble qu'il est resté bloqué à la SD. Pour des photos la HD est quand même plus agréable ... Gaëtan Le Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:26:10 +0100 Belaïd

Re: HS_Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread Haricophile
Le dimanche 23 novembre 2014 à 13:54 +0100, mad_er...@aol.fr a écrit : Cependant G est le meilleur moteur de recherche. C'est bien ce que je lui reproche. Le beurre et l'argent du beurre... Il est le meilleur ? Mais à quel prix ? Voilà la bonne question. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de

Re: Debian et Google Drive

2014-11-23 Thread Haricophile
Le dimanche 23 novembre 2014 à 01:44 +0100, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : J'en suis fort content mais c'est toujours HS. Je ne vous demande pas une solution pour remplacer Google Drive, j'en connais plein déjà et j'en utilise déjà, mais comment accéder à Google Drive depuis Debian via nautilus.

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-23 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda El Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:45:17 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió: El sábado, 22 nov 2014 a las 18:00 horas

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-23 Thread Felix Perez
El día 23 de noviembre de 2014, 11:56, Ismael L. Donis Garcia sli...@citricos.co.cu escribió: - Original Message - From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda El Sat, 22

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-23 Thread Roberto Quiñones
El nov 23, 2014 12:57 PM, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 23 de noviembre de 2014, 11:56, Ismael L. Donis Garcia sli...@citricos.co.cu escribió: - Original Message - From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday,

Re: Pues sí, systemd se queda

2014-11-23 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-11-22 14:20 GMT+00:00 Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es: On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:37:48AM +, C. L. Martinez wrote: [...] república bananera [...] Vaya. Parece que vamos cambiando el término según el caso. ¿En qué quedamos entonces? ¿hay mandamases o no hay mandamases? Mira te voy a

minicom y puerto /dev/ttyS0 bloqueado

2014-11-23 Thread Debia Linux
Lista: Estaba haciendo unas pruebas sobre comandos AT instale bien minicom sin ningun problema. Comence a usar los comandos AT y todo bien. Y aqui viene el pero. Resulta que al usar el comando AT+IPR=? Me arrojo varios resultados para decirme que velocidades eran soportadas. Asi que despues

Re: minicom y puerto /dev/ttyS0 bloqueado

2014-11-23 Thread Debia Linux
2014-11-23 20:54 GMT-06:00 Debia Linux debianer...@gmail.com: Lista: Estaba haciendo unas pruebas sobre comandos AT instale bien minicom sin ningun problema. Comence a usar los comandos AT y todo bien. Y aqui viene el pero. Resulta que al usar el comando AT+IPR=? Me arrojo varios

Re: minicom y puerto /dev/ttyS0 bloqueado

2014-11-23 Thread Debia Linux
RESUELTO Vaya, estoy avanzando... ya pregunto y puedo responder a mi mismo mas rapido de lo que contestan en la lista. Tal vez con el tiempo, comience a ayudarles a resolver muchos problemas. Les explico rapidamente: Aunque no me permitia escribir nada, si me permitia ejecutar la ayuda con las

Re: Μεταφράσεις Debian

2014-11-23 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:23:47 +0200 John Tsiombikas nucl...@member.fsf.org wrote: Giati yparxoun tosa fantastika pragmata pou mporei na kanei kapoios pano se ena programma, pou mou fainetai farsokomodia to posoi anti na katsoun na mathoun 5 pragmata apo programmatismo kai na kanoun kati

Re: Μεταφράσεις Debian

2014-11-23 Thread Vangelis Mouhtsis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/11/2014 08:20 μμ, Eleni Maria St. wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:19:59 +0200 Support VisualBasic supp...@visualbasic.gr wrote: Epi tou thematos , tha mporouse kapoios na stilei stin lista (attached) arxeia pou theloun metafrasi kai

Re: MALWARE Virus no Ubuntu [Alerta]

2014-11-23 Thread Helio Loureiro
Olhando meus logs de mail e web, virou lugar comum esse tipo de ataque. Mas bastou um apt-get update; apt-get upgrade pra resolver. Se a equipe de segurança não é capaz disso, não tem nenhum procedimento que possa ajudar, pois esses exigem mais capacidade técnica e conhecimento. Helio Em

Re: [Off-Topic]Procedimentos - Invasão e/ou Malware

2014-11-23 Thread Andre N Batista
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 01:35:19PM +0100, Helio Loureiro wrote: Uma simples atualização dois servidores teria mitigado o problema. Se nem isso fizeram, não há segurança no mundo que se possa aplicar. Não com essa equipe. Talvez ele queira saber como escalar privilégios nesse sistema mal

Ubuntu 14 não mata os processos do samba

2014-11-23 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Srs, o meu samba no ubuntu 14 não está parando, acredito que algum processo o starta automaticamente mas não encontro processos de start no syslog. Evidencias : root@pc-desktop:~# service samba status * nmbd is running * smbd is running root@pc-desktop:~# /etc/init.d/samba stop

Re: Ubuntu 14 não mata os processos do samba

2014-11-23 Thread P. J.
Velho vc não acha q esta postando algo na lista errada? até aonde eu sei aqui é uma lista do debian, se quer saber de um erro especifico dessa distro poste na lista deles 2014-11-23 16:18 GMT-03:00, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com: Srs, o meu samba no ubuntu 14 não está parando, acredito

Implementando um servidor de domínio com o poderoso Samba4

2014-11-23 Thread Henrique Fagundes
Senhores, Já tem um certo tempo que eu não posto nada aqui, mas devido a minha labuta para implementar um servidor de domínio de maneira funcional, resolvi escrever esse artigo para documentar os procedimentos realizados e também para ajudar os colegas que tiverem essa mesma necessidade.

Re: Ubuntu 14 não mata os processos do samba

2014-11-23 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Acho que tem razão. 2014-11-23 18:34 GMT-02:00 P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com: Velho vc não acha q esta postando algo na lista errada? até aonde eu sei aqui é uma lista do debian, se quer saber de um erro especifico dessa distro poste na lista deles 2014-11-23 16:18 GMT-03:00, Rodrigo Cunha

Re: [Off-Topic]Procedimentos - Invasão e/ou Malware

2014-11-23 Thread Anacleto Junior
Muito obrigado pela contribuição de todos, particularmente ao Rodrigo Cunha e ao André. É isso mesmo que queria saber, algumas coisas que eu poderia analisar. Eu não vou mexer nessas máquinas pois não tenho acesso mas é para eu saber o que poderia ser feito após um incidente. Manter o sistema

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside working all day (almost beer o'clock) On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote: My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 23/11/2014 11:14 AM, John Hasler wrote: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes: But they are anathema to the We are systemd of Borg, resistance is futile crowd. And then there is the Systemd is the Borg! Kill! Kill! crowd who jump into every mention

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hendrik Boom a écrit : On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:45:38 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Gary Dale a écrit : Have you considered getting a USB case for your new drive and doing dd from your current drive to the new one? Afterward you can install the new drive then boot from gparted/rescue disk and

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 19:07, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 23/11/2014 11:14 AM, John Hasler wrote: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes: But they are anathema to the We are systemd of Borg, resistance is futile crowd. And then there is the Systemd is the Borg! Kill! Kill! crowd who jump into every mention of

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:50:43 -0800 Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Marc, My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy. My wife has an See the following; https://wiki.debian.org/iPhone#endConfigTwo

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-22, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: What next? Shall we debate gravity or other pointless exercises[*1] (unless the Debian User list has become a school for aspiring sophists)? I've always been against gravity and am amazed it ever got off the ground.

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Hendrik Boom a écrit : Unless the MBR or something related to it contains information about the size of the entire disk, which will now be wrong. 2) If Windows boots from UEFI, I suppose that the original disk partition table is in the GPT format. This format

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 22:13, Curt wrote: On 2014-11-22, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: What next? Shall we debate gravity or other pointless exercises[*1] (unless the Debian User list has become a school for aspiring sophists)? I've always been against gravity and am

pleas view the attached contact him immediately for your cheque/ bank draft?

2014-11-23 Thread U/N
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Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:14:25 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Hendrik Boom a écrit : Unless the MBR or something related to it contains information about the size of the entire disk, which will now be wrong. 2) If Windows boots from UEFI, I suppose that the

Bugs

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Help
Im affraid as i plug in router they go everywhere. They also at my brother, on my.harddrive from laptop. Im cannot dl whats app or call because of them. And really it was just i wanne to learn and no more Windows os. I had kali and pinguy, and i prefer to both reinstall. But at this moment i go

Re: Bugs

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Help
The make loopbacks or somthing. I plugged router in now. Mij laptop i do not because i thing they also go to all my contacts . I uninstalled everything Op 23 nov. 2014 13:37 schreef Chris Help helpmescripsareeverywh...@gmail.com het volgende: Im affraid as i plug in router they go everywhere.

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 23/11/2014 7:53 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: How many people subscribe to this list? How many people follow the various reposting of this list? Sorry Scott, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The assumptions you are making

[solved] Re: virtmanager not connecting to server

2014-11-23 Thread Gary Dale
On 23/11/14 02:29 AM, Reco wrote: On 22/11/14 06:06 PM, Reco wrote: Changes the error: Unable to connect to libvirt. Cannot recv data: Host key verification failed.: Connection reset by peer Verify that the 'libvirtd' daemon is running on the remote host. Details: ibvirt URI is:

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:38:41 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:29:20PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have a laptop (an old Asus EEEPC), and I need to replace its only disk drive with a larger one. The hardware aspects are easy -- keep static electricity away and use a

enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Miles Fidelman
To any listmasters that might be paying attention. Perhaps it's time to establish policy that meta-meta-discussions about what's on-topic and what's not, are themselves off-topic, and grounds for moderation? All of the wrangling, degenerating into name calling, conspiracy theories, and

Re: ntpd confusion

2014-11-23 Thread mad
Am 22.11.2014 um 22:01 schrieb Erwan David: Le 22/11/2014 21:57, mad a écrit : Hi! I'm stumped. On my home network all my Debian installations _only_ use the router as clock source. # ntpq -p remote refidst t when poll reach delay offset jitter

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:01:44AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: I DO NOT WANT SYSTEMD ON ANY SYSTEM THAT I ADMINISTRATE ... is that so hard to understand? Loud and clear - So DON'T INSTALL it then! You're ranting because of philisophical differences, and that my friend isn't for -user. You

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 05:03:19PM -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:56:41 -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote: Hello! I am using curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11, and when I run `curl https://www.basebit.com.br', it fails with the message: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-23 Thread Teresa e Junior
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 05:20:23 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 05:03:19PM -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:56:41 -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote: Hello! I am using curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11, and when I run `curl https://www.basebit.com.br', it fails with the

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: This works: curl --ciphers DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA https://www.basebit.com.br I get this: tal% curl --ciphers DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA https://www.basebit.com.br curl: (35) error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:47:51PM +0100, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 Scott Ferguson

Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: To any listmasters that might be paying attention. L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread John Hasler
Andrew McGlashan writes: I DO NOT WANT SYSTEMD ON ANY SYSTEM THAT I ADMINISTRATE ... is that so hard to understand? What's hard to understand is why I should give a damn. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: weasel words ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread John Hasler
Andrew McGlashan writes: You will never see the full picture of the problem if you only listen to what is allowed to be received via the debian-user list... What makes you think debian-user is my only source of information? ...and you are deluded if you think the problem only concerns a small

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-23 Thread Teresa e Junior
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:24:06 + (UTC), Curt wrote: On 2014-11-23, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: This works: curl --ciphers DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA https://www.basebit.com.br I get this: tal% curl --ciphers DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA https://www.basebit.com.br curl: (35)

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/22/2014 10:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Lu, 10 nov 14, 18:20:37, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/10/2014 6:18 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Am 11.11.2014 um 00:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman: Ok, then explain to me the procedure for running the installer in

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Teresa e Junior teresaejun...@gmail.com wrote: They must have changed the server configuration all today, because yesterday it worked, and so I implemented the shell script. But today the script would not work, and then I got the same errors you both have mentioned... And

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/23/2014 11:43 AM, John Hasler wrote: Andrew McGlashan writes: You will never see the full picture of the problem if you only listen to what is allowed to be received via the debian-user list... What makes you think debian-user is my only source of information? ...and you are deluded

Re: apt-get source download has files not in git repository

2014-11-23 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * Joel Roth [Thu, Nov 20 2014, 10:05:08PM]: pkgcache.apt pkgcache.bin restore sources.list sources.list.destdir srcpkgcache.bin Hi Andrei, Are you sure these files are from dbus? I'd rather guess they are from the 'apt' source package. Anyway:

Re: curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error

2014-11-23 Thread Teresa e Junior
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:30:34 + (UTC), Curt wrote: On 2014-11-23, Teresa e Junior teresaejun...@gmail.com wrote: They must have changed the server configuration all today, because yesterday it worked, and so I implemented the shell script. But today the script would not work, and then I got

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 23 November 2014 17:23:15 Tanstaafl wrote: 'installing systemd, then removing and installing sysvinit' - was absolutely not and never could be considered the *equivalent* of doing a *clean install with sysvinit*, where systemd is never installed in the first place. The

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-22, Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote: My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy. My wife has an iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the linux box, as well. I

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/23/2014 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside working all day (almost beer o'clock) On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote: My daughter has

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/23/2014 09:47 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-11-22, Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote: My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy. My wife has an iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 23 nov 14, 12:23:15, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/22/2014 10:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: You made a claim that installing systemd would pull in other packages vie dependencies, that are later difficult to remove. Incorrect. I never made that claim. Methinks

Re: apt-get source download has files not in git repository

2014-11-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 nov 14, 22:05:08, Joel Roth wrote: Are you sure these files are from dbus? I'd rather guess they are from the 'apt' source package. Anyway: Yes, they are. I'm curious at which step they get generated. Me too. Care to explain step by step what you did? Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/23/2014 12:43 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 23 November 2014 17:23:15 Tanstaafl wrote: 'installing systemd, then removing and installing sysvinit' - was absolutely not and never could be considered the *equivalent* of doing a *clean install with sysvinit*,

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 23 nov 14, 12:17:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote: What I see missing in these discussions is the vast number of people who don't monitor the lists. That is the huge majority of Debian users. I agree that they are the majority. Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't

wpa_supplicant: automatically sign in via coova hot spot interface

2014-11-23 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello Forum, is there any simple way to allow wpa_supplicant to automatically sign in via coova hot spot interface ? Any hint is welcome, thanks in advance, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/11/2014, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: To any listmasters that might be paying attention. L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité? I think that, in one of the sciences, was a L'Hopital's Rule, but, do not remember to what it

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Brian
On Sun 23 Nov 2014 at 13:27:55 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/23/2014 12:43 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 23 November 2014 17:23:15 Tanstaafl wrote: 'installing systemd, then removing and installing sysvinit' - was absolutely not and never could be considered the

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Erwan David
Le 23/11/2014 20:09, Brian a écrit : On Sun 23 Nov 2014 at 13:27:55 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/23/2014 12:43 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 23 November 2014 17:23:15 Tanstaafl wrote: 'installing systemd, then removing and installing sysvinit' - was absolutely not and

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/11/2014 3:38 AM, John Hasler wrote: Andrew McGlashan writes: I DO NOT WANT SYSTEMD ON ANY SYSTEM THAT I ADMINISTRATE ... is that so hard to understand? What's hard to understand is why I should give a damn. Ditto on why I should give a

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/23/2014 2:09 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: It would be nice if you regarded the word functionally as an essential qualification of equivalent or identical and not dismiss it. What would be nice is if you (and others) would stop claiming that 'installing systemd, then installing

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. I have gvfs 1.12.3-4 installed, as well as gvfs-fuse 1.12.3-4 and fuse 2.9.0-2+deb7u1. Does this help, or hurt? Those were installed to access my phone. Scott has suggested that the iPod might be getting grabbed by a fusefs.

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/11/2014 4:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/23/2014 11:43 AM, John Hasler wrote: Andrew McGlashan writes: You will never see the full picture of the problem if you only listen to what is allowed to be received via the debian-user list...

Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité? I think that, in one of the sciences, was a L'Hopital's Rule, but, do not remember to what it applied, or, what was the rule. My etymological sources tell me that from the end of the Middle Ages to

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread seeker5528
On 11/23/2014 9:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: What I see missing in these discussions is the vast number of people who don't monitor the lists. That is the huge majority of Debian users. Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't work as expected. That's how it works

Re: ntpd confusion

2014-11-23 Thread Bob Proulx
mad wrote: I use the default ntp configuration and other Debian installations directly on the internet use all four clock sources (0.debian.pool, 1.debian.pool...). Should see some remapped names from the pool in the list then. Why is that? It seems to have something to do with IPv4 and

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-23 Thread Doug
On 11/22/2014 11:38 PM, Joel Roth wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:29:20PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: /snip/ If you use UUIDs instead of /dev/sd??, you avoid the issue of locations changing. If the new /dev/sda drive has GRUB in the MBR, I believe you should be able to boot from the

Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Ron
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 03:03:20 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité? I think that, in one of the sciences, was a L'Hopital's Rule, but, do not remember to what it applied, or, what was the rule. Otherwise, I wonder whether the above, has

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Brian
On Sun 23 Nov 2014 at 14:15:17 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/23/2014 2:09 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: It would be nice if you regarded the word functionally as an essential qualification of equivalent or identical and not dismiss it. What would be nice is if you (and others)

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-23 Thread Joel Roth
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 03:03:53PM -0500, Doug wrote: On 11/22/2014 11:38 PM, Joel Roth wrote: Grub can boot Windows just fine. Yes, grub can boot Windows _just fine_ if Windows is bootable. Windows wants to be activated and I found that GParted's activation does not suffice.That's why I

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Brian
On Sun 23 Nov 2014 at 20:13:06 +0100, Erwan David wrote: Le 23/11/2014 20:09, Brian a écrit : It would be nice if you regarded the word functionally as an essential qualification of equivalent or identical and not dismiss it. If functionnally is the only criteria, then its time to flee.

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/23/2014 11:20 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-11-23, Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. I have gvfs 1.12.3-4 installed, as well as gvfs-fuse 1.12.3-4 and fuse 2.9.0-2+deb7u1. Does this help, or hurt? Those were installed to access my phone. Scott has suggested that the iPod might be

Re: wpa_supplicant: automatically sign in via coova hot spot interface

2014-11-23 Thread Brian
On Sun 23 Nov 2014 at 19:38:37 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote: is there any simple way to allow wpa_supplicant to automatically sign in via coova hot spot interface ? Any hint is welcome, thanks in advance, If you are using ifupdown you will likely be wanting to use a wpa-roam.conf in it. The

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote: What does it say when you run ideviceinfo in a terminal after plugging in your device (might tell us what is missing from the picture)? GnuTLS error: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Well, that error is worth a google

Re: enough with the what's (not) on-topic discussions already

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 03:38, Curt wrote: On 2014-11-23, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: To any listmasters that might be paying attention. L'hôpital qui se moque de la charité? :) Apt. (In English Pot, meet kettle) Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 23 November 2014 18:27:55 Tanstaafl wrote: Ignorance reigns supreme. Lisi - they are purely and simply *not* equivalents, and never can be. They _are_ equivalent. They are not the same. Try your dictionary rather than gratuitously accusing me of ignorance because I don't agree

Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

2014-11-23 Thread seeker5528
On 11/23/2014 12:03 PM, Doug wrote: Yes, grub can boot Windows _just fine_ if Windows is bootable. Windows wants to be activated and I found that GParted's activation does not suffice.That's why I mentioned obtaining a program to activate Windows. If you only have one computer, you should get

Purging a package...............

2014-11-23 Thread Charlie
In a different email, under the heading: Re: Installing an Alternative Init? Andrei posted this in part: [quote] A package not properly cleaning after itself on purge is generally considered a bug in Debian, severity depending on the impact, of course. [end quote] I suppose this is literal,

Re: wpa_supplicant: automatically sign in via coova hot spot interface

2014-11-23 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello Brian, On 23/11/14 22:02, Brian wrote: On Sun 23 Nov 2014 at 19:38:37 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote: is there any simple way to allow wpa_supplicant to automatically sign in via coova hot spot interface ? Any hint is welcome, thanks in advance, If you are using ifupdown you will

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/23/2014 1:15 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 23 nov 14, 12:17:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote: What I see missing in these discussions is the vast number of people who don't monitor the lists. That is the huge majority of Debian users. I agree that they are the majority. Some will get a

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-23 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/23/2014 1:27 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/23/2014 12:43 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 23 November 2014 17:23:15 Tanstaafl wrote: 'installing systemd, then removing and installing sysvinit' - was absolutely not and never could be considered the *equivalent* of

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-23 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/23/2014 2:20 PM, seeker5528 wrote: On 11/23/2014 9:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: What I see missing in these discussions is the vast number of people who don't monitor the lists. That is the huge majority of Debian users. Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't

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