Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 01:47:20AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On 22/06/2015 11:49 PM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > > Andrew McGlashan writes: > >> If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck, plain and simple. > >> > >> I absolutely

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 10/2/19 10:28 am, chris wrote: > so relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo I've seen references to that video and have not yet watched it. I also understand that people have differing views on what the presenter concludes or

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Paul Sutton
On 10/02/2019 08:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 01:47:20AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> >> >> On 22/06/2015 11:49 PM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >>> Andrew McGlashan writes: If it quacks like a duck, it's a

Re: Dependências desencontradas ao instalar o openscad

2019-02-10 Thread Hiure Queiroz
Olá Leandro, Então achei que aquela alteração que o Terceiro sugeriu de editar o /etc/apt/preferences.d/stable já me faria remover todos os pacotes do testing, mas pelo jeito não era só isso. A outra sugestão do Terceiro foi de fazer um upgrade para o buster logo, será que é melhor nesse caso?

Re: Passage en qwerty !?!?

2019-02-10 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "David BERCOT" > À: "debian-user-french@lists.debian.org French" > > Envoyé: Dimanche 10 Février 2019 13:16:25 > Objet: Passage en qwerty !?!? > > Bonjour, > > Depuis la mise à jour de ce matin, j’ai un comportement très bizarre. > Ainsi, en console, pas de

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread mick crane
On 2019-02-10 12:17, Reco wrote: No. See SCO vs IBM case. Linux is not Unix, and never has been. wasn't it IBM gave Minix away and Torvalds used that as a base ? -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:48:35PM +, mick crane wrote: > On 2019-02-10 12:17, Reco wrote: > > > No. See SCO vs IBM case. Linux is not Unix, and never has been. > > wasn't it IBM gave Minix away and Torvalds used that as a base ? But it wasn't enough to make a Unix from Linux.

Re: /boot full (of old-dkms)

2019-02-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:32:21AM +0100, Erik Josefsson wrote: > Den 2019-02-07 kl. 10:31, skrev john doe: > > According to (1), you should be fine removing '.old-dkms' files in '/boot'. > > However, I would do a backup of those files before removing them. > > > >

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 09:56:30PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > On 10/2/19 6:44 pm, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > On 10/2/19 10:28 am, chris wrote: > >> so relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo > > > >

Why do we have a default activated man-db.timer?

2019-02-10 Thread Tom Bachreier
System: Testing Hi! With the migration of man-db 2.8.5-1 into testing about a month ago I get bothered once a day with a lot of useless lines in syslog: > Feb 10 00:00:51 osprey mandb[3543]: Purging old database entries in > /usr/share/man... > Feb 10 00:00:51 osprey mandb[3543]: Processing

Passage en qwerty !?!?

2019-02-10 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour, Depuis la mise à jour de ce matin, j’ai un comportement très bizarre. Ainsi, en console, pas de souci (toujours en Azerty). Idem sur LibreOffice, GEdit, etc. En revanche, dans les navigateurs Internet (Chrome, Firefox, Vivaldi) mais aussi dans Onlyoffice ou Thunderbird, je suis en

Re: /boot full (of old-dkms)

2019-02-10 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-02-07 kl. 10:31, skrev john doe: According to (1), you should be fine removing '.old-dkms' files in '/boot'. However, I would do a backup of those files before removing them. 1)https://askubuntu.com/questions/863380/can-i-remove-old-dkms-files Very good answer in the link, and now I

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:48:35PM +, mick crane wrote: > On 2019-02-10 12:17, Reco wrote: > > >No. See SCO vs IBM case. Linux is not Unix, and never has been. > > wasn't it IBM gave Minix away and Torvalds used that as a base ? Oh, no. Minix is Andrew Tannenbaum's project, has nothing to

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Matthew Crews
On Sun, 2019-02-10 at 13:48 +, mick crane wrote: > On 2019-02-10 12:17, Reco wrote: > > > No. See SCO vs IBM case. Linux is not Unix, and never has been. > > wasn't it IBM gave Minix away and Torvalds used that as a base ? > According to Linus himself, it does not use Minix code.

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 10/2/19 6:44 pm, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 10/2/19 10:28 am, chris wrote: >> so relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo > > I've seen references to that video and have not yet watched it. > > I also understand that people

Re: Passage en qwerty !?!?

2019-02-10 Thread David BERCOT
Je n’ai pas de ~/.xinitrc et, dans Gnome, je suis bien en Français partout (d’ailleurs, ça fonctionne correctement dans les applications « purement » Gnome). David. Le 10/02/2019 à 13:41, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > > > - Mail original - >> De: "David BERCOT" >> À:

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 10/2/19 11:17 pm, Reco wrote: >> Okay, I've watched it now. I am not convinced that his idea of >> "create this or that yourself" is a fair retort. > > There are historical precedents. AIX's init inspired Solaris' SMF > which in turn

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 02:57:22PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I used "grep -r /usr/local/games /etc" which yielded "/etc/login.defs" and > "/etc/profile". Editing those two files had no effect. How are you determining that changes to /etc/profile had no effect? Because changes there

Re: System d files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Default User
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019, 15:39 Brian wrote: > On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 05:31:18 +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > [Total snipping in the interests of sanity] > > The post which started this thread had a quote from Jun 22, 2015. The > pillock who started it has disappeared and will, no doubt, never

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/10/2019 03:42 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 02:57:22PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] Unless someone can point to a single location to modify that: 1. modify existing user(s) 2. have effect for ALL future users 3. survive updating to future releases

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/08/2019 12:55 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 08 Feb 2019 at 07:18:39 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian Stretch with MATE desktop. I want the current user and all future users to include all directories in root's $PATH. If you're talking about PATH, then you're talking

USB flash drive with an encrypted partition not showing on desktop

2019-02-10 Thread Jose G. López
Hi, My problem is that I can't make a USB flash drive with a LUKS encrypted partition be shown on desktop when is inserted. It's a fresh installation of Debian Buster with xfce4. Partitions in USB device: # fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disco /dev/sdb: 28,7 GiB, 3075200 bytes, 60062500

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/10/2019 03:26 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 02:57:22PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I used "grep -r /usr/local/games /etc" which yielded "/etc/login.defs" and "/etc/profile". Editing those two files had no effect. How are you determining that changes to

Re: Passage en qwerty !?!?

2019-02-10 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le dimanche 10 février 2019, David BERCOT a écrit... > Ainsi, en console, pas de souci (toujours en Azerty). Idem sur > LibreOffice, GEdit, etc. En revanche, dans les navigateurs Internet > (Chrome, Firefox, Vivaldi) mais aussi dans Onlyoffice ou Thunderbird, je > suis en

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 02:57:22PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > Unless someone can point to a single location to modify that: > 1. modify existing user(s) > 2. have effect for ALL future users > 3. survive updating to future releases > I'll drop the issue. > Thanks all. Did you

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 11/2/19 4:40 am, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 03:55:04AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Which, in turn, has xml, central database, socket activation and > very rudimentary dependency resolution. I don't remember off-hand > which

[testing] Hubic et debian

2019-02-10 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Bonjour, Depuis la dernière mise à jour de mono hubic consomme 100% d'un cœur en permanence sur mon PC. Constatez-vous la même chose ? Gaëtan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: System d files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 05:31:18 +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: [Total snipping in the interests of sanity] The post which started this thread had a quote from Jun 22, 2015. The pillock who started it has disappeared and will, no doubt, never been seen again. How anyone could see this as meriting

Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Reco
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 03:55:04AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > On 10/2/19 11:17 pm, Reco wrote: > >> Okay, I've watched it now. I am not convinced that his idea of > >> "create this or that yourself" is a fair retort. > > > >

Re: Passage en qwerty !?!?

2019-02-10 Thread F. Dubois
Le 10/02/2019 à 13:16, David BERCOT a écrit : Bonjour, Depuis la mise à jour de ce matin, j’ai un comportement très bizarre. Ainsi, en console, pas de souci (toujours en Azerty). Idem sur LibreOffice, GEdit, etc. En revanche, dans les navigateurs Internet (Chrome, Firefox, Vivaldi) mais aussi

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread Lee
On 2/10/19, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 02:57:22PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I used "grep -r /usr/local/games /etc" which yielded "/etc/login.defs" >> and >> "/etc/profile". Editing those two files had no effect. > > How are you determining that changes to

Can not shutdown

2019-02-10 Thread A_Man_Without_Clue
Hi all, I just installed Debian testing, Debian Installer Buster Alpha 5 release. I use LXDE and now I just found out that I cannot shut down from LXDE, "Logout - Shutdown" It gives the error saying "GDBUS Error System Error ENXIO No such drive or address" I tried with XFCE but still it won't

Re: Can not shutdown

2019-02-10 Thread A_Man_Without_Clue
On 2/11/19 11:50 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > have you tried su - poweroff yet? > On Mon, 11 Feb 2019, A_Man_Without_Clue > wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:36:09 >> From: A_Man_Without_Clue >> To: debian-user >> Subject: Can not shutdown >> Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 02:36:30 +

Re: Can not shutdown

2019-02-10 Thread A_Man_Without_Clue
On 2/11/19 2:46 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > /etc/shutdown.allow needs to have your user's name in it for that user > to be able to shut the system down without using su or sudo. > /etc/shutdown.deny can have user names in it too, and those will not be > allowed to shut the system down. > > On

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 03:49:00PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/10/2019 03:26 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > >So what changes are you making and how are you checking for them? I note you have neglected to explain what changes you are making, which would be essential for us to help you with why

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/10/2019 05:00 PM, Lee wrote: On 2/10/19, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 02:57:22PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I used "grep -r /usr/local/games /etc" which yielded "/etc/login.defs" and "/etc/profile". Editing those two files had no effect. How are you determining

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Feb 2019 at 14:57:22 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/08/2019 12:55 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 08 Feb 2019 at 07:18:39 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I'm running Debian Stretch with MATE desktop. > > > I want the current user and all future users to include all > > >

Re: Can not shutdown

2019-02-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
/etc/shutdown.allow needs to have your user's name in it for that user to be able to shut the system down without using su or sudo. /etc/shutdown.deny can have user names in it too, and those will not be allowed to shut the system down. On Mon, 11 Feb 2019, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote: > Date: Sun,

Wifi/Bluetooth from Realtek in Asus X541U does "correctable" errors.

2019-02-10 Thread C.T.F. Jansen
Greetings, Buying the said Asus X541U notebook, Microsoft Windows does not show errors but other people complain of spotty performance from the Realtek Wifi/Bluetooth unit in it. Install Debian 9 then the console shows a stream of "correctable errors" from the said Realtek Wifi/Bluetooth

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread Lee
On 2/10/19, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/10/2019 05:00 PM, Lee wrote: >> On 2/10/19, Andy Smith wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 02:57:22PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I used "grep -r /usr/local/games /etc" which yielded "/etc/login.defs" and "/etc/profile".

Re: Can not shutdown

2019-02-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
have you tried su - poweroff yet? On Mon, 11 Feb 2019, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote: > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:36:09 > From: A_Man_Without_Clue > To: debian-user > Subject: Can not shutdown > Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 02:36:30 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Hi

Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 08 Feb 2019 at 10:08:49 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > By my problem definition, any thing in /home/user is not relevant as I > > explicitly want something that affects all current and future users. > > Everybody, no matter what? > > pam_env can do that. > > PAM