Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread 황병희
황병희 writes: > Douglas McGarrett writes: > >> [...] >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug > > Yes it is locked os. By the way chromebook runs on coreboot and linux > kernel. So i love chromebook.

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread 황병희
writes: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 12:26:19PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: >> 황병희 writes: >> >> > Douglas McGarrett writes: >> > >> >> [...] >> >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. >> >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug >> > >> > Yes it is

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-06 Thread David Christensen
On 3/5/22 02:10, Ottavio Caruso wrote: On 05/03/2022 00:56, David Christensen wrote: On 3/4/22 02:47, Ottavio Caruso wrote: One of my memory slot has died, I would retire that computer. Thanks. Where do I send my bank details for the funding of a new laptop? so I am running a Thinkpad

Re: Posible hackeo en los mirros de Rusia y en los servidores rusos que distribuyen las imágenes y gestor de paquetes

2022-03-06 Thread Camaleón
El 2022-03-07 a las 07:34 +0100, Parodper escribió: > O 07/03/22 ás 01:30, Jose Andres Valarezo Valarezo escribiu: > > Posible hackeo en los mirrors de Rusia y en los servidores rusos que > > distribuyen las imágenes y gestor de paquetes . > > No he localizado ninguna noticia relacionada con

Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?

2022-03-06 Thread 황병희
Ottavio Caruso writes: > One of my memory slot has died, so I am running a Thinkpad with 2GB > ram only. I have been told that, even if I put a 4GB ram module in, it > won't be as fast as 2x2GB ram (true? Stop me here if I am > wrong). Never mind put an 8GB stick; it might not even work. > > At

Re: Posible hackeo en los mirros de Rusia y en los servidores rusos que distribuyen las imágenes y gestor de paquetes

2022-03-06 Thread Parodper
O 07/03/22 ás 01:30, Jose Andres Valarezo Valarezo escribiu: Posible hackeo en los mirrors de Rusia y en los servidores rusos que distribuyen las imágenes y gestor de paquetes . No pasaría nada. Todos los paquetes están firmados por claves criptográficas.

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 12:26:19PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: > 황병희 writes: > > > Douglas McGarrett writes: > > > >> [...] > >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. > >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug > > > > Yes it is locked os. By the

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-06 09:49 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: > Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems > connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone > 4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian doesn't recognize it. > Yesterday it was

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread tv.debian
Le 06/03/2022 à 06:40, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 11:22:40PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: Find another mail host. Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I tend towards smaller, but established local providers. For example, around here,

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Joe
On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 04:06:23 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > Currently I use > > dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb > > I would like way to copy it such that: > 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it > 2. Gparted would not complain about block size > 3. there would be at least two partitions usable

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > Currently I use >> dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb > > I would like way to copy it such that: > 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it > 2. Gparted would not complain about block size > 3. there would be at least two partitions usable misc files one of the nice people

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 02:34 AM, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment When I attempted to run startx I received the message startx: command not found Hi Richard, I can't tell you anything about

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment > > When I attempted to run startx I received the message > >> startx: command not found > > Hi

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 03:00 AM, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-03-06 09:49 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone 4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian

Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it 2. Gparted would not complain about block size 3. there would be at least two partitions usable misc files TIA

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 04:52 AM, Joe wrote: On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 04:06:23 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it 2. Gparted would not complain about block size 3. there would be at least

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 03:20 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment When I attempted to run startx I received the message

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: >> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment > When I attempted to run startx I received the message >> startx: command not found Hi Richard, I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to

Re: Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Marcelo Laia
> we have posteo.de or mailbox.org. Thank you! Look at posteo and mailbox plans. I have been looked at protonMail.com. What I need is IMAP and SMTP for offline uses. I plan to continue use offlineimap + msmtp + mutt for a long time. GMail offers this, but, after OAuth2 implementation, token

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Emanuel Berg wrote: > Unfortunately the motherboard was worst-case 166.2 W, not the > previous estimate/approximation at 80. > > The 166.2 (motherboard W really doesn't include the CPU?) > > So no it says it is is worst-case 277 W, and with +30% wiggle > room it is 361 W :( > > back to passive

Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
I used debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install CLI of Debian. I then did: apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment When I attempted to run startx I received the message startx: command not found IIRC this has worked in the past. But it has been a couple of years.

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

2022-03-06 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 03:47:25AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/06/2022 03:20 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > (Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-) > > I guess the reel and line are up to me ;} This is due to the irremediable kit & tinkerer mentality

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Currently I use > > > dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb > > I would like way to copy it such that: > > 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it This should work fine after above dd run. > > 2. Gparted would not complain about block size Usually the partition editors

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 6 Mar 2022, John Hasler wrote: Marcelo Laia wrote: Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I use pobox.com . My wife uses the email service that comes with our Web site on Gandi. Both are quite satisfactory. Unlike some others I don't consider Google

Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Mar 2022 at 06:40:07 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 11:22:40PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > > Find another mail host. > > > > Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? > > I tend towards smaller, but established local providers.

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 10:25 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [ *SNIP* ] I guess that gparted's confusion is because of the nested partitions. Another cause could be the GPT and APM debris. (It is the main job of make_isombr_part to remove this.) In order to check the theory about nested partitions you could

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, :) ... > songbird wrote: >> one of the nice people here posted a program for doing this >> called make_isombr_part (or something similar). > > That was me. > > Presentation of first version: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg01215.html > > Richard

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > songbird wrote: ... >> i have two versions of it now, but it was a five years ago and >> i don't recall if i made the changes or got a new version from >> the author. :) > > Your request for a dry-run mode was fulfilled by a new version: >

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
Johann Klammer wrote: ... > Likely the xorg video driver. > Try installing the alternatives possible for your hardware. > avoid the closed source nvidias. > They've had the hard lock ups since about 2000. > nouveau and framebuffer ones will probably work. hi, thanks for the hints, i just have

system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

2022-03-06 Thread songbird
ok, i've finally had my computer lock up again while i've set up the core dumps and i was hoping that i'd get an actual core dump file to help narrow things down to a specific programs, but no luck with that at all. system is running Debian Testing, updates applied each morning. desktop is MATE.

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 05:43 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it 2. Gparted would not complain about block size 3. there would be at least two partitions usable misc

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 07:09 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it This should work fine after above dd run. I does. 2. Gparted would not complain about

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread John Hasler
Marcelo Laia wrote: > Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I use pobox.com . My wife uses the email service that comes with our Web site on Gandi. Both are quite satisfactory. Unlike some others I don't consider Google "evil". They're just an advertising

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, as usual, a little mistake: I worte: > That's the version which is still available as > http://scdbackup.webframe.org/make_isombr_part.c > MD5 dd3e1a16e9593f908a1ce9ec848fd929 That is the MD5 of the amd64 executable binary. The MD5 of the source file is 34aa900801f65955a61cebf0280eeb3b

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 6 Mar 2022, Marcelo Laia wrote: we have posteo.de or mailbox.org. Thank you! Look at posteo and mailbox plans. I have been looked at protonMail.com. What I need is IMAP and SMTP for offline uses. I plan to continue use offlineimap + msmtp + mutt for a long time. GMail offers this,

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

2022-03-06 Thread Linux-Fan
Emanuel Berg writes: Unfortunately the motherboard was worst-case 166.2 W, not the previous estimate/approximation at 80. The 166.2 (motherboard W really doesn't include the CPU?) It does, see https://www.techporn.ph/wp-content/uploads/ASUS-ROG-Strix-B450-F-Gaming-Benchmark-1.jpg which is

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

2022-03-06 Thread Johann Klammer
On 03/06/2022 01:20 PM, songbird wrote: > ok, i've finally had my computer lock up again while i've > set up the core dumps and i was hoping that i'd get an > actual core dump file to help narrow things down to a > specific programs, but no luck with that at all. > > system is running Debian

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > The error message block is titled > > It is not possible to create more than 1 primary partition There should still 2 MBR partition table slots free. Both could become primary partitions, although a provident partition editor could force you to use the last partition

Re: Conviently having netinst.iso on a 32GB flash drive

2022-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/06/2022 06:44 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/06/2022 05:43 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Currently I use dd if=netinst.iso bs=64M of=/dev/sdb I would like way to copy it such that: 1. a legacy BIOS could launch it 2. Gparted would not complain about block size 3. there

Re: Re: Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Marcelo Laia
For someone that have same problem as mine, "Token has been expired or revoked" in Gmail OAuth2 authentication method each seven days, I found a how to by pass this one: https://stackoverflow.com/a/67966982/1461165 -- Marcelo

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Richmond
Marc Auslander writes: > Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password > authentication for apps. > > I use fetchmail and exim4 to get and send mail. Neither, AFAIK, > supports OAUTH2. I'm also still on stretch but will update if I have > to. > > So what suggestions does

Posible hackeo en los mirros de Rusia y en los servidores rusos que distribuyen las imágenes y gestor de paquetes

2022-03-06 Thread Jose Andres Valarezo Valarezo
Posible hackeo en los mirrors de Rusia y en los servidores rusos que distribuyen las imágenes y gestor de paquetes .