clock

1997-02-19 Thread Richard Heller
Hi,

  This is my third try.  The first time I wrote the wrong address to send to,
the second time I got blocked by the spam filter because I've never posted
anything before, so third time's a charm,right?  Ok, I have Debian Linux 1.1
and the clock displays the wrong time. The time's ok under dos, but not under
Linux.  I think maybe I answered one of the questions wrong when installing, 
but that was a while ago and by now I have too much stuff set up to reinstall.
How do I reconfigure the clock without reinstalling?

Thanks,
Rich



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pppd and ethernet error (dialup)

1997-02-19 Thread Fingers
Hi,

I'm trying to get my new debian system fully configured, i've setup everything 
fine so far.  I thought everything was going fine till i tried to dialup my isp 
to run dselect to update some things this is what i got out of the log file.

Feb 18 20:46:36 uk pppd[1065]: Serial connection established.
Feb 18 20:46:37 uk pppd[1065]: using interface ppp0
Feb 18 20:46:37 uk pppd[1065]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: local IP address 194.247.41.27
Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: remote IP address 194.247.41.30
Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: ppp not replacing existing default route to 
eth0[0.0.0.0]
Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP

So the connection establishes ok, it something to do with internal network 
running on 10.0.0.1 on eth0.  Has anybody got any ideas how i can get around 
this or fix it ?

Thanks,
Chris.

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Re: 1.1 dselect stuff

1997-02-19 Thread Bruce Perens
 1) Deselect detected the new packages and attempted to upgrade 
 everything.  I actually thought this was kind of neat at first 
 until I realized how long 82MB of stuff takes to download over
 a 28.8 link.

There actually is a way to tell it to take no action, however that's
not the default.

 2) A bug in dpkg couldn't deal with zlib1's Version: 1:4-6 line.

Hand-install the latest dpkg, and then run dpkg --clear-available.

 3) Dselect deletes uninstalled files (ones that encountered 
 installation errors) when it asks you delete installed files?, 

I'm assuming this is the FTP installation method. It should not do
this unless you tell it to remove the directory. It may need an
upgrade too.

 4) Deselect downloads the files in a random order (a perl hash
 at work here no doubt:)  What it should do is a DFS on the dependency 
 tree so that if your download is incomplete most of the files you
 grabbed will still install.

We know. We've been working on dependency graph tools.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: Is there a dictionary for abbreviations like WTF?

1997-02-19 Thread Kirk Hilliard
On Feb 18, Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote
  I would like to resolve these many abbreviations today, as 

  So, is there any appropriate dictionary?  Thanks.

J. H. M. Dassen gave several URL's which should answer your questions,
but the start of your subject line reminded me of something else that
I am interested in -- a ``webster'' like dictionary that I could
install on my linux box.  I think that ``webster'' might come with
NeXT machines, but it has been available at every university at which
I have had a UNIX account, and I find myself telnetting into my
university account several times per day, specifically to make use of
it.  (Yes, I have a real paper and ink dictionary, and I usually
choose to use it when I am reading a book, but I want an online
dictionary when I am typing or reading mail.)  Several linux
dictionary options come to mind.


WWW -- I believe that there are www dictionary sites available, but I
want a dictionary installed on my machine that I can use whether or
not I am connected to the net.

Commercial UNIX dictionaries -- I recently saw a c.o.l.a article
announcing the availability of a ``webster''-like American Heritage
dictionary for linux, but the price was a bit steep.  (I think it was
$89 US for a single user license.)

DOS or Windows dictionary, converted for linux -- I would spend $20 -
$30 US for such a dictionary on CDROM if I could break the format of
the data file and write my own linux viewer for it.  (This would
probably be a violation of the letter of the license, but not the
spirit, as I would only use the linux version installed one single
user machine.)

GNU Free Dictionary project -- What ever happened to this?

Gutenberg Project dictionary -- I just noticed that the Gutenberg
Project released a 1919 Webster dictionary last year, both as an ASCII
flat file, and in html format.  That is a little old (necessitated by
copyright concerns) but it would serve nearly all my purposes (and add
some historical flavor to boot).  I believe that it is 40 MB
uncompressed, and I plan on downloading it shortly.  Has anyone else
had a look at it?  While an html version would be usable, I would
like to see a dictionary specific browser/viewer built for it.  It is
not appropriate to wrap up all the works of the Gutenberg Project as
debian packages, but it might be appropriate to do so with a dictionary
and thesaurus.  (They have also released a version of Roget's
Thesaurus.)  At the very least, a contrib package could be built
containing viewers (and possible even ``webster''-like client and
server) and including instructions for downloading the data files.  Is
any one else interested in this?

Kirk Hilliard


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MH 6.8.4-8 broken or feature?

1997-02-19 Thread Lars Hallberg
I promiced to report my upgrade 1.1 - 1.2. I did belive I done that but do
so no more It was probably trapped by the spam filter and newer returned
to me. The upgrad of MH to 6.8.4-8 broke my From field. The upgrade story is
old by now but I repost it if You want to.

First the row localname:  micropp.se was removed from /etc/mh/mtstailor
and the FAQ describing it was removed from /usr/doc/mh. Both werry
understndable as mh no longer care about that line when I put it back...

Is ther another way to specify the E-mail domainame whit this version of mh,
or is it a bug. It cant be intended to force the maskin-name into the E-mail
adress? Must be a comon case where peopel run the mail apps on network-clients
with maskin-names diferent from the right E-mail name.

I have read the docs in /usr/doc/mh/papers and many of the mh man pages
inncluding the man page of post (hwo is probably messing up IMHO).

Do anyone have a simular problem? Ponters? solutions?

AFIK smail cant change the From field in outgoing mail. Dont want to swap my
MDA over this and i starts to like both mh comandline tools and exmh...

A temporarly fix is to put a From: field in ~/Mail/components but that results
in an incorect Sender: field insted. Hope the Spamfilter dont trap the Sender:
field...

TIA /Lars
 
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SWAP problem, have anyone seen it?

1997-02-19 Thread Lars Hallberg
Hello!

I do have a problem with my debian system. It do work OK for one day, but
then in one day or two i do get (lots of) swap errors like

   swap_duplikate: trying to duplicate unused page
   Bad swap-tabel entry (not exact wording)
   trying to free unused page (not exact wording)

After a while the system runs out of memory (out of memory for cron, out of
memory for update...etc). I then cant log in or do anything usefull. Sometimes
I still can swap betwen wc but not do any Ctr-Alt-Del will sometimes start
to do somthing but will newer shutdown the system... lots of bad rebots...

This started under Debian 1.1 kernel 2.0.0, I then uppgraded to Debian 1.2.5
and kernel 2.0.27 (instaled kernel - no costom recompile). I have a intel
486 DX4 100 on an Asus mothercard AMI-bios and a 1.2 GB EIDE harddisc. 
16M RAM and 64M Swap (later changed into two 17M Swap-partisions - No progres).

After uppgrading my kernel reports to be 2.0.27 at boot-time, but kerneld
reports 2.0.0 while booting. Is this normal?

The problem do (alvays?) happen when the machin is idle so I have checked the
BIOS powersave options an disabled some that was previos enabled (whitout
progress).

   Have anyone sen something similar?
   Can this be a bad swap partision?
   Hove du You check a swap partision?
   (I have rebuid the swap whit mkswap)
   Pointers, anything?

If this is a bug somewhare, can I be to help with debuging info? This thing
is happening about 3-4 times every week so it shuld be debuggable. Is ther
anny loggs I shuld look into? Debuging mode I shuld aktivate? Tell me! If
You ned more info ask me!

I'm afraid all thes bad reboots gona bite me finaly. Help is werry welcome.

Any sugestion besides going thru the Bios setup again (pointers to the bios
setup is welcome to)? 

TIA /Lars (Hope You can understand, and stand, my poor english)
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FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1997-02-19 Thread Sven Rudolph
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
Sven Rudolph, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
$Id: packages.sgml,v 1.36 1997/02/18 21:41:28 sr1 Exp sr1 $

1.  General Questions

1.1.  Before reading this document

You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ (
http://www.debian.org/FAQ/ ).

1.2.  Purpose of this document

This document is intended to identify areas that need your
contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ.

1.3.  Getting newer versions of this document

Newer versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP:
o  http://www.debian.org/Documentation/Debian/packages.html
o  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-
   packages.txt

1.4.  Feedback

Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to Sven
Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Please mention to which version of
this document your comments refer.

2.  Packages needing a new maintainer

Please inform me via e-mail:
o  when you find that you need to discontinue maintaining a package
o  when you believe that the following list is incomplete
o  when you would like to maintain one of the packages listed here.

orphaned :
o  libc4 (a.out compatibility)

David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  libc5, libc6 (potentially a lot of work)

Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  statserial
o  tgif
o  xarchie

Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  fdutils
o  hkgerman
o  html2latex
o  icmake
o  lshell
o  ntfs
o  umsdos
o  watchdog
o  xftp

Dale Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  lclint

Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  pmake

Jim Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  idanish
o  mh-papers
o  term
o  wfrench
o  witalian
o  wswedish

Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  seyon
o  lpr

Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  xfractint
o  fractxtra
o  xarclock
o  xdaliclock
o  lha
o  dosfstools
o  ctwm
o  sendfile
o  uudeview

Andrew Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  xtron

Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  fsp
o  libelf
o  lyx

Doug Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  abuse
o  apsfilter

Yves Arrouye :
o  compress-package
o  mush
o  ppd-adobe-common, ppd-adobe-extra, ppd-adobe-misc, ppd-gs
o  psptools

Michael Nonweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  ipx
o  nas
o  ncpfs

Joe Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  lxtools

Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  glibcdoc
o  hyperlatex
o  id-utils
o  mathpad
o  dlh
o  wenglish
o  wdutch
o  idutch

Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  adbbs (needs a better setup of pre-customized files)
o  bridge/bridgex (Bridging Tools for Kernel 2.0.X/2.1.X)
o  chos
o  defrag
o  freefont
o  genromfs
o  ibcs
o  ircd
o  ncompress
o  ncsa (new Webstandards need to be implemented)
o  netdiag
o  newsx
o  pash
o  poppassd
o  sharefont
o  syslinux
o  upsd

llucius [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  dialog

Karl Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  sysutils

Marcel Riedi:
o  rsynth

3.  Packages that someone is working on

Programs listed in this section aren't yet available as Debian
packages, but someone is working on providing a package.

If you would like to work on one of these packages please contact the
responsible person listed below.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl R. Sackett) :
o  swarm - Objective-C based artificial life research tool
o  GNU Smalltalk
o  utf-mailx: scripts to add UTF support to mailx.
o  SATAN - net security scanner
o  courtney - detects SATAN scans
o  gabriel - detects SATAN scans
o  drone - automatically runs batch jobs of simulation programs.
o  xephem - interactive astronomical ephemeris program for X
o  empire - Wolfpack Empire war simulation
o  togl - a Tk widget for OpenGL rendering
o  MIT Scheme - scheme interpreter
o  nanocad - a freeware CAD system for nanotechnology
o  WISE - WWW-based project management and metrics system

Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  giftool
o  lx-gdb

Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  glimpsehttpd

David H. Silber [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  dbackup - A Debian-specific backup program.
o  lockstep - A program to keep various directory trees in sync.
o  uucpconfig - A configuration program which will become part of my
   uucp package.
o  latex2html

Brian Sulcer [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  vile (vi-like editor)
o  rogue
o  umoria

Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  vtwm: Virtual Window Manager for X11
o  yodl
o  w3-msql (W3 frontend for mSQL)

Michael Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  amanda, the University of Maryland's free network backup system.
o  nntplink

Christophe Le Bars [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  MMM: a WWW browser implemented in Caml
o  doc-debian-fr

Christian Lynbech [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  ilisp (emacs interface to a number of lisp systems)
o  hyperbole (emacs hypertext/info management system)
o  oobr (emacs package for browsing OO programs)
o  STk (Scheme Tk, a scheme interpreter with Tk support)

Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  qmail (waiting for license change)

Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
o  metapost (postscript generating language similar to metafont)
o  TeX packages

Dermot Bradley 

Re: Easy ways of configuring Debian

1997-02-19 Thread Shaya Potter
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Daniel Robbins wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Alexander Gieg wrote:
 
  I think this is a great idea. LinuxConf makes the
  configuration far easy for beginners. Let's think about
  this...
 
 I am a Linux beginner, and I find dselect confusing.  If this will make 
 dselect less confusing, then it's a *great* idea!  I'll check out their 
 web page to see what it's all about.  The base Debian install (from 
 disks) was great, but it's going to take a while before I am comfortable 
 with dselect.

This wont effect dselect, and right now I would say not to use it b/c it 
will wreck the future upgradability of your Debian system.  I am working 
on a RFC for debian-devel to put in support for linuxconf or any future 
admin tool that comes around.

Shaya


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Re: Beginner kit

1997-02-19 Thread Brian S. Julin


Oops.  Well I just accidentally dumped the mail I'm
responding to.  This is Re: not wanting to buy a Debian
CD or spend hours on the line downloading.  I saw that
there is a company selling Linux-on-a-drive advertising in
Linux Journal.  I think they were loading the drive with 
Debian 1.1.  But you do have to commit to buying a 1.1G
drive, so it comes out pretty pricy.  Good if you want to
upgrade your hd anyway.  I can look up their contact
if you don't subscribe to LJ; e-mail me.

It also occurred to me that I have a) a ready access to
a steady supply of small (150-300MB) used ide hard drives
at a good used price (approx 10 cents a meg) and b) a small
amount of free capitol and c) a linux-savvy friend who is 
job hunting and needs spending money. 

Would people be interested in helping said friend 
pay for his beer and pizza if he were distributing a base/ 
install plus i386 binary .deb files (updated nightly via 
dselect, of course) for something in the area of $35 
shipping included?  (I think that's about what it would 
work out to)

Some of the drives are pretty fast actually -- lotta
Quantums/some WD Caviars.  Would make a good swap device for 
older ISA/EISA bus PCs running the slow but ever-so-cheap
conner/seagate 1G drives and such.  Long as you aren't maxed
out on ide connections, that is.

Anyway I should probably check with my friend and see
if he's actually interested before I go pimping his services
on the Internet :-).  For that matter anyone else is very
welcome to implement the venture described above -- I
won't flame; it's just an end-of-the-workday idea.

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Re: Umsdos support?

1997-02-19 Thread Gertjan Klein
Giuliano Procida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It is possible to fool the installation process roughly as follows:

  You need a DOS partition, say /dev/hda1, umssync, and perhaps other
  things (it's been a while). Replace the boot-floppy kernel with one
  that has FAT and UMSDOS compiled in.

  Ah, you make it sound so easy ;-)  I can't seem to get this right. I
copy the kernel to the file linux and run ./rdev.sh. This script tries
to run rdev /mnt/linux /dev/ram0 - and there is no /dev/ram0. Why does
the script ask for something Debian doesn't supply? Anyway, if I ignore
this error or run the command manually with /dev/ram (which I do have),
and boot the floppy, it stops here:

RAMDISK: compressed image found at block 0
VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem)
Root is mounted from /dev/ram
/etc/rc done.

And then it just sits there. I can get a shell at Alt-F2, but obviously
something must be wrong so I didn't try going any further. What could
cause this?  The other instructions you gave seem easy enough to follow,
but unfortunately I didn't get that far :-(

  Unfortunately, after a message of VFS: Mounted umsdos
  filesystem as root (or similar), the system hangs in an endless loop
  continuously reading the harddisk.

  You seem to have got most of the way. What messages does it give?

  Just that. Perhaps this was caused by the remounting in
/etc/init.d/boot? I didn't know I had to change that. In the mean time I
deleted the test harddisk partition so I can't easily try again.

  As an alternative, you could try my modifications to the boot-floppies
  package to handle UMSDOS installs. There has just been a new
  boot-floppies release, so I'll have do some merging before I have a
  proper set of patches ready. Have a look at
  ftp://pootle.magd.cam.ac.uk/ if you are interested (patches against
  boot-floppies 1.2.5).

  My mirror doesn't carry 1.2.5, only 1.2.4. It seems there's some stuff
specific to your system in the patch (I saw some copying of loadlin);
was I too early downloading it?

  In your other message you mentioned a ZIP drive, can't you format a
  disk as ext2? Or is that not a possibility for you?

  Not really. I want Debian to run from the ZIP disk so I can take it to
my father's place and run Linux there. This way, I don't need a special
boot floppy, or files on his harddisk. I just insert the ZIP disk and
get Linux. This is only possible using umsdos. (I am a bit surprised,
actually, that Debian doesn't support installation to umsdos).

  Thanks for your help,
  Gertjan.

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Re: Upgrading by shaky ftp...

1997-02-19 Thread Kevin Traas
 How will dselect react to the PPP-link going down while upgrading by ftp?

 Sometimes I can be on for hours without problems, othertimes the 
 connection drops every 5-15 minutes...
 
 Can I just reconnect and restart dselect Install/Upgrade and it will 
 resume with regetting the last (incomplete) .deb file?

I've had success with this only because I have a static IP address with my
ISP.  If you are running PPP with dynamic addressing, then I think you can
forget it

Later,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Edmondson Roper Chartered Accountants
http://users.uniserve.com/~erca
Chilliwack, B.C.
Pager: (604) 918-2054
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Re: How do they burn CD's?

1997-02-19 Thread Kevin Traas
 If you are locking for a nice GUI to burn your own CD's you
 can use X-CD-Roast, it has a lot of options, I found it very
 usefull for me!
 

http://www.rz.fh-muenchen.de/home/ze/rz/services/projects/xcdroast/e_overvie
w.html
 
 It's a really long URL, isn't it?

Except that it doesn't support Pinnacle drives!  DOH!

My $0.02...

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Edmondson Roper Chartered Accountants
http://users.uniserve.com/~erca
Chilliwack, B.C.
Pager: (604) 918-2054
Office: (604) 792-1915


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real audio ...

1997-02-19 Thread Richard G. Roberto
Hi,

I installed the real audio player raplayer in my /usr/local
with a link in /usr/local/bin for the binary.  It works from the
command line with their test welcome message, but doesn't work
from Netscape.  I have the appropriate entries in mimi.types and
mailcap, and the helper is defined in Netscape for type
audio/x-pn-realaudio as raplayer %s.

The entries I have are as follows:

# grep realaudio /etc/mime.types 
audio/x-pn-realaudiora ram
# grep realaudio /etc/mailcap 
audio/x-pn-realaudio; raplayer %s; test=test $DISPLAY != ;description=RA 
RAM realaudio format

When I select a real audio link, I get a popup dialog asking me
to save the file of type audio/x-pn-realaudio.  The other helpers
(such as xanim) work fine for their respective file types though.

Any ideas?

TIA.

Richard G. Roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Upgrading by shaky ftp...

1997-02-19 Thread Shaya Potter
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Michael Tempsch wrote:

 How will dselect react to the PPP-link going down while upgrading by ftp? 
 Sometimes I can be on for hours without problems, othertimes the 
 connection drops every 5-15 minutes...
 
 Can I just reconnect and restart dselect Install/Upgrade and it will 
 resume with regetting the last (incomplete) .deb file?

Yep, that is it, dselect's ftp method implements reget, which is like 
crash recovery in zmodem.

Shaya

 
 Or is there more to it? 
 Maybe better to ftp updated packages by hand and point dselect to them? 
 But that is definately not as neat as just pointing dselect to the site
 and periodically checking on progress and if necessary reconnect...
 
 /Michael 
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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Shaya Potter
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 OK - I went back a few messages and you did show us your partition table.
 
Boot  Begin Start  End  Blocks  System
  /dev/hda1  *   1 1   163   82120+ Linux native
  /dev/hda2164   164   244   40824  Linux swap
  
  /dev/hda3245   245  1260  512064  Linux native
  /dev/hda4   1024  1261  2484  616896  Extended
 
 Am I reading this right? Could the extended partition in hda3 be
 overlapping the one in hda4? I see hda3 ending at 1260 and hda4
 beginning at 1024. I think the problem is that I don't understand
 extended partitions, and thus I don't see what the difference is
 between begin and start.
 
  /dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
  /dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native

Something is wrong here.  If Extended means what it does in the dos world 
i.e. as opposed to primary, something is very wrong.  hda1-4 should be 
primary and hda5-... would be extended.  This means that when it says 
Extended, Extended is a type, such as linux native, dos fat, HPFS, NTFS.

Shaya


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Re: The LSL TriLinux2 CD?

1997-02-19 Thread Dan Irvin


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 From: Hunter Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: The LSL TriLinux2 CD?
 Date: Tuesday, February 18, 1997 7:00 PM
 
 At 05:45 AM 2/17/97 +0100, Paul Seelig wrote:
 The best naturally is to order one of those writable CD's
 from I-Connect
 
 Why is that?
 
 BTW. Is there a 1.2.5, 

Yes!

Our Current Tri Linux CD contains Deb 1.2.5 with the contrib. directory. 
This is a 
binary only release. so we were able to fit the full binary distributions
of 
Red Hat 4.1 and slackware 3.1 on the CD as well.  We started  shipping 
last week,  see http://www.lsl.com.  We plan on updating this CD monthly
and hope
that we can incorporate a single floppy or no floppy install in the next
few iterations.

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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 This is a [bug|feature] of fdisk that has existed at least since
my first Slackware installation over a year ago.  If a disk has more
than 1024 cylinders, the 'Begin' column will never exceed 1024, but
the 'Start' column reflects the true starting cylinder.  The 'Begin'
column may be ignored for all practical purposes.  The 'v' command
(verify the partition table) will complain vigorously in such cases,
but its complaints may be safely ignored.

 For reasons that are probably related to this behavior, if you
want to change the size of a partition that extends beyond 1024
cylinders, you must first delete all partitions that are in the 1024+
cylinder range.  If the starting and ending cylinders are recorded
before the deletion, they can be re-created during the same session
(before the 'w' command is given).

Bob

On Tue, 18 Feb 97 12:02 PST, Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK - I went back a few messages and you did show us your partition table.

Boot  Begin Start  End  Blocks  System
  /dev/hda1  *   1 1   163   82120+ Linux native
  /dev/hda2164   164   244   40824  Linux swap
  
  /dev/hda3245   245  1260  512064  Linux native
  /dev/hda4   1024  1261  2484  616896  Extended

 Am I reading this right? Could the extended partition in hda3 be
 overlapping the one in hda4? I see hda3 ending at 1260 and hda4
 beginning at 1024. I think the problem is that I don't understand
 extended partitions, and thus I don't see what the difference is
 between begin and start.

  /dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
  /dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native

   Bruce
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Re: LPRng talking with lpd

1997-02-19 Thread Sven Rudolph
Eko Fajar Nurprasetyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 After giving up to deal with lprm issue in lpr package, I installed lprng.
 I then came up with another problem again :
 
 * As an ordinary user lprng commands (lpr/lpq..) cannot talks with
 * SunOS 4.1's  lpd

In order to talk to traditional lpd LPRng sometimes requires the :bk:
option. Do you already use this?

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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Bruce Perens
Shaya:
 Something is wrong here.  If Extended means what it does in the dos world 
 i.e. as opposed to primary, something is very wrong.  hda1-4 should be 
 primary and hda5-... would be extended.  This means that when it says 
 Extended, Extended is a type, such as linux native, dos fat, HPFS, NTFS.

I suspect that this means there's a nameless extended partition that begins
at 1024, and that hda4 starts at offset 1261 into _that_.

Bruce

   Boot  Begin Start  End  Blocks  System
 /dev/hda1  *   1 1   163   82120+ Linux native
 /dev/hda2164   164   244   40824  Linux swap
 
 /dev/hda3245   245  1260  512064  Linux native
 /dev/hda4   1024  1261  2484  616896  Extended
 /dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
 /dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native
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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Shaya Potter
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 Shaya:
  Something is wrong here.  If Extended means what it does in the dos world 
  i.e. as opposed to primary, something is very wrong.  hda1-4 should be 
  primary and hda5-... would be extended.  This means that when it says 
  Extended, Extended is a type, such as linux native, dos fat, HPFS, NTFS.
 
 I suspect that this means there's a nameless extended partition that begins
 at 1024, and that hda4 starts at offset 1261 into _that_.
 

I don't hink so b/c extended partitions are by default after hda4. You 
can have 4 primaries and many extended.  The extended are part of a 
logical partition. That is why during a boot we get hda1, hda2  hda5 , 
or something like that.  WE have primary hda1, logical hda2, which has 
hda5 as a prt of it.  All extended partitions are after 4.

Shaya

Boot  Begin Start  End  Blocks  System
  /dev/hda1  *   1 1   163   82120+ Linux native
  /dev/hda2164   164   244   40824  Linux swap
  
  /dev/hda3245   245  1260  512064  Linux native
  /dev/hda4   1024  1261  2484  616896  Extended
  /dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
  /dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native
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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Evan Thomas
Bruce Perens wrote:
 
 Am I reading this right? Could the extended partition in hda3 be
 overlapping the one in hda4? I see hda3 ending at 1260 and hda4
 beginning at 1024. I think the problem is that I don't understand
 extended partitions, and thus I don't see what the difference is
 between begin and start.
 
  /dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
  /dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native
 

This occurs not just on extended partitions, but may occur on partitions
with cylinders greater than 1024. It may force the beginning to be
multiples of 1024 or 512. I could not find explanation of the difference
between begin and start in the fdisk manual.

I inadvertantly had one disk running in this configuration for a year
without problems. I recently installed another large disk and placed a
DOS partition above 1024 cylinders. Win95 then silently wrote all
over the linux partition. (This was annoying.)

If your BIOS supports it, it may be worth setting the disk to LBA mode
(you'll have to repartition all over again). Then there won't be a
problem with LILO either.

Evan.
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Re: clock

1997-02-19 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Richard Heller wrote:

 Hi,
 
   This is my third try.  The first time I wrote the wrong address to send to,
 the second time I got blocked by the spam filter because I've never posted
 anything before, so third time's a charm,right?  Ok, I have Debian Linux 1.1
 and the clock displays the wrong time. The time's ok under dos, but not under
 Linux.  I think maybe I answered one of the questions wrong when installing, 
 but that was a while ago and by now I have too much stuff set up to reinstall.
 How do I reconfigure the clock without reinstalling?
 
 Thanks,
 Rich

It sounds like you either have your system clock set to GMT time
but not your linux system, or the other way around.  Look in
/etc/init.d/boot for a line at the top that defines the variable
GMT.  If this is set to  (a null string), then linux thinks
your system clock is not set to GMT time.  If it is, you need
to change this definition to be -u.  That should fix it on the
next boot up.  To fix it ASAP, run the clock -a command with
the correct flag (e.g. if GMT should be defined as -u, run clock
-a -u -- if its already defined as -u and you changed it to a
null string, run clock -a).

I hope that solves it for you.  If it doesn't, I don't know
what's wrong.

Good luck.

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Re: Easy ways of configuring Debian

1997-02-19 Thread Daniel Robbins
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Daniel Robbins wrote:
  On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Alexander Gieg wrote:
  
   I think this is a great idea. LinuxConf makes the
   configuration far easy for beginners. Let's think about
   this...
  
  I am a Linux beginner, and I find dselect confusing.  If this will make 
  dselect less confusing, then it's a *great* idea!  I'll check out their 
  web page to see what it's all about.  The base Debian install (from 
  disks) was great, but it's going to take a while before I am comfortable 
  with dselect.
 
 This wont effect dselect, and right now I would say not to use it b/c it 
 will wreck the future upgradability of your Debian system.  I am working 
 on a RFC for debian-devel to put in support for linuxconf or any future 
 admin tool that comes around.

What do I use instead of dselect to install software?  I have all these 
.deb packages on my vfat partition that need installing.  Thanks for the 
info...

-=-

Daniel Robbins
School of Medicine Computer Services
University of New Mexico

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Re: Easy ways of configuring Debian

1997-02-19 Thread Shaya Potter

You can use dpkg by itself.  dpkg -i package_name.  Read the help page 
for dpkg, it is not that difficult once you get used to it.

Shaya



On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Daniel Robbins wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:
  On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Daniel Robbins wrote:
   On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Alexander Gieg wrote:
   
I think this is a great idea. LinuxConf makes the
configuration far easy for beginners. Let's think about
this...
   
   I am a Linux beginner, and I find dselect confusing.  If this will make 
   dselect less confusing, then it's a *great* idea!  I'll check out their 
   web page to see what it's all about.  The base Debian install (from 
   disks) was great, but it's going to take a while before I am comfortable 
   with dselect.
  
  This wont effect dselect, and right now I would say not to use it b/c it 
  will wreck the future upgradability of your Debian system.  I am working 
  on a RFC for debian-devel to put in support for linuxconf or any future 
  admin tool that comes around.
 
 What do I use instead of dselect to install software?  I have all these 
 .deb packages on my vfat partition that need installing.  Thanks for the 
 info...
 
 -=-
 
 Daniel Robbins
 School of Medicine Computer Services
 University of New Mexico
 
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DepenGNUian Logo

1997-02-19 Thread Joost Kooij
Ronald van Loon wrote:

Maybe we should call ourselves DepenGNUian Linux from now on.

I've always wondered why I saw nobody come up with the following idea:

If you've ever watched a documentary on the tv (you know, that monitor 
without a keyboard) about penguins, you must have noticed these animals' 
typical tendency to cluster themselves together in large communities.

Wouldn't an image of that be the ultimately descriptive Debian logo?

Well, just a thought, of course.


Joost

PS: Also notice the stunning analogy in the fact that the South Pole, the 
penguin's natural habitat, is generally considered to be nature's most 
hostile and harsh environment, where only few species dare reside. 
On the other hand though, the waters surrounding it are considered 
the richest on earth.


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[REVIEW]: [REVIEW] Linux in a Nutshell

1997-02-19 Thread Joost Kooij
Sorry everybody, but I just _have_ to join the shameless plugging, 
as I too am very enthousiastic about this book.

Paul Seelig wrote about Linux in a Nutshell:

It is by no means suitable for the beginner

But I think it _is_. 

Sorry to waste bandwith on a not-strictly-Debian subject, but this book 
answers a lot of not-strictly-Debian questions on the list. If more people 
read it, there would be less not-strictly-Debian questions and hopefully 
more answers in general.
I think that if you're a beginner to Linux and you installed it for keeps, 
it is a very good idea to get this book.

[...]  With 'Linux in a Nutshell', we have thoroughly updated and
adapted 'UNIX   in a Nutshell' for  Linux.   Not only  that, we've
produced a book that many other UNIX users  will want too, because
for the first time this  reference work covers the tolls  produced 
^ grin, sorry
by the FSF for the GNU project.  GNU tools are popular on a lot of
UNIX systems, so   you may be  using  them even  if  you don't run
Linux. (p. 3)

 PS: I supposed the book still contains some errors which i have not
   detected being no Unix or Linux geek at all. 

Well, dpkg(8) is missing, but that's actually not a toll: everytime it gets 
upgraded 
you have to print the manpage yourself and fold it into the book.  :-)  

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: lpr - help please!

1997-02-19 Thread Rich Kolbush
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, William Chow wrote:
 I think that the lpr in Debian is broken. I had a similar problem, so I
 pulled lpr off of my Slack installation on another machine. Hopefully you
 can do the same.

Well, I investigated a little further.  Another list reader pointed me to
the fact that there might be a newer version available.  I took a look,
and I was using lpr_5.9-13 and a lpr_5.9-13.1 was available.  FTP'd it,
unpacked, still same problem.

So I grabbed the source, and diff files.  It appears that a problem with
'canonizing hostname' (whatever that means?) was fixed in July, and the
most recent release fixes a buffer overflow security bug.

At any rate, I'm still in the dark.  My problem, for those who havent
followed is the following error:

lpr: unable to get official name for local machine

Any help is still appreciated. 
Thanks
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missing/non-functional identd service?

1997-02-19 Thread Pete Templin

Hi there.

I've been learning about PGP, and was in the process of taking a look at a
few public keys, when I ran into a small stumbling block.  You see, I was
fingering [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I ran into a small obstacle:

tcsh finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[master.debian.org]

Debian Linux 1.1  Copyright (C) 1993-1996 Debian Association, Inc. and
others

 Your site has been rejected for some reason.

 This may be caused by a missing RFC 1413 identd on your site.

 Contact your and/or our system administrator.

  -- Tue 21:02 on templinux : pwd is ~
tcsh 


Since my system is also Debian (why else would I be sending this to deb
user?), I decided to try it against my system from a machine which I knew
suffers from a lack of identd:

20:48 on charcoal : ~  finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[templinux.bucknell.edu] 

 Your site has been rejected for some reason.

 This may be caused by a missing RFC 1413 identd on your site.

 Contact your and/or our system administrator.

20:54 on charcoal : ~ 


Is this a configuration error I need to fix, a package I haven't
installed, or something else?  It would seem best if Debian systems could
at least finger Debian systems, right?

Thanks in advance for the help,

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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
 Regarding the disk being too large, the partition that the system boots
 from should be entirely within the low 1023 cylinders. I handled this by
 creating a separate partition (about 40 MB) for /, and a larger one for
 /usr. Other than that, the disk size is not a concern, and this is a
 BIOS limitation, not a Linux one.

Should not be a problem with LBA -- my Linux root partition is
the last 700mb of a 1.6gb drive, ie well after 1023 cylinders.



Hamish


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need /usr/lib contents

1997-02-19 Thread I Brake for Moths
I inadvertently erased my /usr/lib directory (meaning to erase 
/usr/local).  I have tried to reconstruct it as best as I can, but I am 
not sure that I have gotten everything.  Here is the output of 'ls /usr/lib':

games   libgnumalloc.so.5   libpng.so.1.0.89c
libdb.so.1  libgnumalloc.so.5.4.20  libstdc++.so.27
libdb.so.1.85.2 libhistory.so.2.0   libstdc++.so.27.2.1
libg++.so.27libhistory.so.2.0.1 libwrap.a
libg++.so.27.2.1libjpeg.so.6a   netscape
libgdbm.so.1libjpeg.so.6a.0.0   perl5
libgdbm.so.1.7.3libpng.so.1

If someone could send me the same listing from their system or point out 
which libraries I am missing, I would be appreciative.  Would there be 
any hidden files in /usr/lib? (w/ names starting with .)  Does X keep any 
libraries there?

Thank you,

Rikki Doh! Hall

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Re: /usr/include/linux, /usr/include/asm, ...

1997-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
 Hamish Besides, the gcc manual page says: -I Append directory dir

 =09Are you sure? Also the manual page warn to look at the info
  pages, as so:

True. Unfortunate (imho) that GNU cannot stick with the standard
documentation system, or extend it, rather than replacing it with
something that requires a tutorial just for simple first use (info).

 `-IDIR'
  Add the directory DIRECTORY to the head of the list of directories

Ahh well, different to the manual page entirely.


I'll keep trying ftape. Thanks.


Hamish


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Tecra's and resume?

1997-02-19 Thread Robert Nicholson
Do any Tecra 720/30 users have suspend/resume working on the machines
 with Debian 1.2?

 When I try to resume it just has a black screen.



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Re: MUA that allows you to browse mail on a pop mail server?

1997-02-19 Thread Boris D. Beletsky
Hi Robert, You wrote:
 Robert
 Robert I know Netscape can leave the mail there if necessary but
 Robert what I'd like ... in the abscence of IMAP support is the
 Robert ability to simply look at mail and remotely choose to read or
 Robert delete the mail. If I read the mail I don't want to bring the
 Robert _whole_ mailbox down ala Netscape.
 Robert
 Robert Something very Like PopOver under NeXTSTEP would be nice.
 Robert Although I'd prefer the program had it's own reader rather
 Robert than relying on Mail.app
 Robert
 Robert Not having used IMAP is that how IMAP support works in
 Robert Netscape?

Sounds like pine.

borik

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Re: clock

1997-02-19 Thread Rob Browning
Richard Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 anything before, so third time's a charm,right?  Ok, I have Debian
 Linux 1.1 and the clock displays the wrong time. The time's ok under
 dos, but not under Linux.  I think maybe I answered one of the
 questions wrong when installing, but that was a while ago and by now
 I have too much stuff set up to reinstall.

Check /etc/init.d/boot.  You want to change the lines that read:

# Set GMT=-u if your system clock is set to GMT, and GMT= if not.
GMT=-u 

I assume that you don't want the -u flag.

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Re: pppd and ethernet error (dialup)

1997-02-19 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: ppp not replacing existing default route =
to eth0[0.0.0.0]
Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: Cannot determine ethernet address for =
proxy ARP
You have the option 'proxyarp' added, either in your ppp/options file or
in diald configuration file (if you're using diald).

just remove (comment it) that options, and you're home free.



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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Igor Grobman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
 
  OK - I went back a few messages and you did show us your partition table.
  
 Boot  Begin Start  End  Blocks  System
   /dev/hda1  *   1 1   163   82120+ Linux native
   /dev/hda2164   164   244   40824  Linux swap
   
   /dev/hda3245   245  1260  512064  Linux native
   /dev/hda4   1024  1261  2484  616896  Extended
  
  Am I reading this right? Could the extended partition in hda3 be
  overlapping the one in hda4? I see hda3 ending at 1260 and hda4
  beginning at 1024. I think the problem is that I don't understand
  extended partitions, and thus I don't see what the difference is
  between begin and start.
  
   /dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
   /dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native
 
 Something is wrong here.  If Extended means what it does in the dos world 
 i.e. as opposed to primary, something is very wrong.  hda1-4 should be 
 primary and hda5-... would be extended.  This means that when it says 
 Extended, Extended is a type, such as linux native, dos fat, HPFS, NTFS.

No, not exactly.  Extended partition itself has to be primary, that is,
one of the first four.  Inside the extended partition, you can create
as many logical drives (what people usually call extended partitions) as
you want to.  The strange thing is that begin and start numbers don't
coincide.  They do coincide for every partition on my machine, which has a
similar setup.  I would guess fdisk docs might explain why this would
happen

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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Shaya Potter
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Igor Grobman wrote:

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 On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:
 
  On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
  
   OK - I went back a few messages and you did show us your partition table.
   
  Boot  Begin Start  End  Blocks  System
/dev/hda1  *   1 1   163   82120+ Linux native
/dev/hda2164   164   244   40824  Linux swap

/dev/hda3245   245  1260  512064  Linux native
/dev/hda4   1024  1261  2484  616896  Extended
   
   Am I reading this right? Could the extended partition in hda3 be
   overlapping the one in hda4? I see hda3 ending at 1260 and hda4
   beginning at 1024. I think the problem is that I don't understand
   extended partitions, and thus I don't see what the difference is
   between begin and start.
   
/dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
/dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native
  
  Something is wrong here.  If Extended means what it does in the dos world 
  i.e. as opposed to primary, something is very wrong.  hda1-4 should be 
  primary and hda5-... would be extended.  This means that when it says 
  Extended, Extended is a type, such as linux native, dos fat, HPFS, NTFS.
 
 No, not exactly.  Extended partition itself has to be primary, that is,
 one of the first four.  Inside the extended partition, you can create
 as many logical drives (what people usually call extended partitions) as
 you want to.  The strange thing is that begin and start numbers don't
 coincide.  They do coincide for every partition on my machine, which has a
 similar setup.  I would guess fdisk docs might explain why this would
 happen

Ahm now I understand, got the terms mixed up.  But still, when I used 
fdisk to install debian, I used extended partitions and nothing like 
that showd up.

Sjaua


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Re: clock

1997-02-19 Thread Chad Zimmerman

I have the same problem here, fixed by typing clock -s  that sets the
clock going by the bios.

Chad D. Zimmerman
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http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/

On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Richard Heller wrote:

 Hi,
 
   This is my third try.  The first time I wrote the wrong address to send to,
 the second time I got blocked by the spam filter because I've never posted
 anything before, so third time's a charm,right?  Ok, I have Debian Linux 1.1
 and the clock displays the wrong time. The time's ok under dos, but not under
 Linux.  I think maybe I answered one of the questions wrong when installing, 
 but that was a while ago and by now I have too much stuff set up to reinstall.
 How do I reconfigure the clock without reinstalling?
 
 Thanks,
 Rich
 
 
 
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Re: Matrox Millenium Video Card Problem

1997-02-19 Thread Jim Pick

  AUBORD Alain writes:
 
   Alain I have some problems with my Matrox Millenium Video Card. I
   Alain want to start X with the XFree 3.2 super vga server but I
   Alain only get 320x200 display. The chip seems not to be recognized
   Alain properly.
 
 AFAIK the current XFree has a server for the MGA?
 
 kai

It worked for me.  The server is included in the xserver-svga
package.  Of course, you need to install xserver-vga16 first, and
run the XF86Setup program.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: Upgrading by shaky ftp..

1997-02-19 Thread Rob MacWilliams
  How will dselect react to the PPP-link going down while upgrading by ftp?
 
  Sometimes I can be on for hours without problems, othertimes the 
  connection drops every 5-15 minutes...
  
  Can I just reconnect and restart dselect Install/Upgrade and it will 
  resume with regetting the last (incomplete) .deb file?
 
 I've had success with this only because I have a static IP address with my
 ISP.  If you are running PPP with dynamic addressing, then I think you can
 forget it
 
 Later,
 
 Kevin Traas
 Systems Analyst
 Edmondson Roper Chartered Accountants
 http://users.uniserve.com/~erca
 Chilliwack, B.C.
 Pager: (604) 918-2054
 Office: (604) 792-1915
 
 

If I remember correctly, my FTP went down a couple of times during dselect.  I 
got the connection back
relativly quickly, but sometimes with a new address.  I don't think the FTP 
part of dselect  will 
continue in the middle of a file transfer, but dselect as a whole will pick up 
on incomplete files and
finish them off.  You might have to exit and rerun dselect, however.  Take this 
with a grain of salt, as
my link has been pretty stable lately.


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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread John T. Larkin
 Boot  Begin Start  End  Blocks  System
   /dev/hda1  *   1 1   163   82120+ Linux native
   /dev/hda2164   164   244   40824  Linux swap
   
   /dev/hda3245   245  1260  512064  Linux native
   /dev/hda4   1024  1261  2484  616896  Extended
   /dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
   /dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native
 
 Something is wrong here.  If Extended means what it does in the dos world 
 i.e. as opposed to primary, something is very wrong.  hda1-4 should be 
 primary and hda5-... would be extended.  This means that when it says 
 Extended, Extended is a type, such as linux native, dos fat, HPFS, NTFS.

This assertion is incorrect.  If you want extended partitions, in either
dos or linux, the 4th primary partition is labeled extended and
the partition information for the extended partitions and the extended 
partitions themselves are contained within /dev/hda4.

From what I see on this parition table, it looks valid.
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Re: fetchmail

1997-02-19 Thread Rob MacWilliams
 
 Rob MacWilliams writes:
 - 
 - After installing fetchmail 3.4 I think my problems were caused by a
 - bad config file in smail.  Version 3.1 of fetchmail seemed to be
 - less forgiving of errors when connecting to smail.
 
 - If anyone is running smail on a dial-up PPP single user
 - non-networked SMTP system, I would appreciate hearing from them via
 - private e-mail.  These config files can be confusing.  When I get
 - this thing working properly, I will post the info to the list or
 - write a micro-howto.
 
 **NOTE** The following instructions assume that your login on your ISP
 and your login on your machine are one and the same. If not, you can
 easily change incoming mail with the fetchmailrc, but outgoing mail
 will be send with the wrong address. If anyone knows how to configure
 fetchmail to rewrite From lines, please let me know :)
 
 It's relatively easy to do.  I used smailconfig and answered as
 follows:
 
  (1) Internet site: You send and recieve mail over the internet...
 
   You ARE connected to the Internet, and that's how you send/recieve
   mail. fetchmail just slams the incoming data into localhost's SMTP
   port.
 
  For what is the 'visible' mail name, use the host part of your
email address.
 
   For instance, my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], so I answered
   airmail.net  here. This tells smail that mail with this name is
   meant for it, and that any mail it sens out should look like it came
   from this address.
 
  for Any other names, answer with any other domain names that may
arrive on your machine
 

Don't you want your localhost name here?  It seems to me that cron, etc. would 
otherwise
send your system messages to your ISP?  For instance smail, if a message 
bounces it would go
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] not back to you even if it was generated internally.  That 
is my concern,
my ISP doesn't need to have my error messages sent to him.  Maybe I'm out to 
lunch, I hope so,
because it would make my config job much easier.

Thanks


'none' is probably OK here, but look at a few of the mail addresses
that arrive on your machine to be sure.
 
  For Do you have a smarthost.. give the name of your POP server.
 
That way, you won't have mail sitting on your system for long
periods of time, waiting to get out. 
 
  for Do you wish to use the smarthost answer (1) All outbound mail
 
All mail goes out onto a more-well connected host, so mail doesn't
sit on your (sometimes connected) machine when transient errors
occur.
 
  For Which user account(s) should system mail go to, use your
login.
 
That way all smail errors will be mailed to you.
 
 Tell smailconfig to write the config files and off you go.
 
 One other thing you need to do: add a blank line, followed by the
 following lines to /etc/smail/directors. THIS SHOULD BE THE LAST LINES
 OF THE FILE. Otherwise, mail loss is a definite possibility.
 
 smartuser:
 driver=smartuser;
 new_user=$user@insert POPhost here, well_formed_only
 
 That tells smail that any mail which it thinks is for it, but it
 doesn't know how to deal with should be sent to your POP host.
 Without those lines, you will not be able to send mail to anyone else
 at your ISP.
 
 After that, life should be happy, and smail should happily deliver
 both incoming and outgoing mail.
 
 To get fetchmail to suck the mail in, use something like this for a
 ..fetchmailrc:
 
 defaults
 user login is login password password
  batchlimit 10
  fetchall
 
 server POPhost
  protocol pop3
 
 then you just type fetchmail, and it gets your mail, stuffs it into
 smail, which delivers it to your mailbox, or through your .forward.
 
 You can also add 'su -c /usr/bin/fetchmail -d 600 login' to
 /etc/ppp/ip-up and 'su -c fetchmail --quit login' to
 /etc/ppp/ip-down to make it automagically check for mail every 600
 seconds while your online (and shut it off when you're not)
 
 
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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Shaya Potter
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, John T. Larkin wrote:

  Boot  Begin Start  End  Blocks  System
/dev/hda1  *   1 1   163   82120+ Linux native
/dev/hda2164   164   244   40824  Linux swap

/dev/hda3245   245  1260  512064  Linux native
/dev/hda4   1024  1261  2484  616896  Extended
/dev/hda5   1024  1261  1870  307408+ Linux native
/dev/hda6   1024  1871  2484  309424+ Linux native
  
  Something is wrong here.  If Extended means what it does in the dos world 
  i.e. as opposed to primary, something is very wrong.  hda1-4 should be 
  primary and hda5-... would be extended.  This means that when it says 
  Extended, Extended is a type, such as linux native, dos fat, HPFS, NTFS.
 
 This assertion is incorrect.  If you want extended partitions, in either
 dos or linux, the 4th primary partition is labeled extended and
 the partition information for the extended partitions and the extended 
 partitions themselves are contained within /dev/hda4.

Then how come the kernel says something like hda1, hda2 hda5,hda6
shouldn't it be hda1, hda4 hda5,hda6 I take this to mean I have primary 
on hda1 and an extended on hda2 with logical hda5, and hda6 in it. (or 
something like that language, not sure on the extended/logical thing).

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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread John T. Larkin
  This assertion is incorrect.  If you want extended partitions, in either
  dos or linux, the 4th primary partition is labeled extended and
  the partition information for the extended partitions and the extended 
  partitions themselves are contained within /dev/hda4.
 
 Then how come the kernel says something like hda1, hda2 hda5,hda6
 shouldn't it be hda1, hda4 hda5,hda6 I take this to mean I have primary 
 on hda1 and an extended on hda2 with logical hda5, and hda6 in it. (or 
 something like that language, not sure on the extended/logical thing).

Yes, you're right.  Rather than saying the 4th primary partition I should
have said one of the 4 primary partitions.
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G77 in stable

1997-02-19 Thread Scott Stanley

Does anyone know the status of the package g77_0.5.19-2 I just tried to
download this package from stable at ftp.debian.org, and got a message 
saying the file was not there. 

Debian-1.2-fixed/binary-i386/devel/g77_0.5.19-2.deb: No such file OR 
directory.

It does show up in the list of packages available in stable, however.

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Re: pppd and ethernet error (dialup)

1997-02-19 Thread John T. Larkin
 Feb 18 20:46:37 uk pppd[1065]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
 Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: local IP address 194.247.41.27
 Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: remote IP address 194.247.41.30
 Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: ppp not replacing existing default route to 
 eth0[0.0.0.0]
 So the connection establishes ok, it something to do with internal network 
 running on 10.0.0.1 on eth0.  Has anybody got any ideas how i can get around 
 this or fix it ?
Yes, it does have something to do with your internal network.  Since you
probably already have a route in the routing table, ppp won't add a new one.
Try doing this after ppp is up and running:
route add default gw 194.274.41.30 metric 1

This should make net trafic go over ppp by default, but your local net should
(hopefully) still work.

 Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP
Sorry, don't know anything about that error

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Re: pppd and ethernet error (dialup)

1997-02-19 Thread Philippe Troin

On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:12:47 GMT Fingers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I'm trying to get my new debian system fully configured, i've setup 
 everything fine so far.  I thought everything was going fine till i tried to 
 dialup my isp to run dselect to update some things this is what i got out of 
 the log file.
 
 Feb 18 20:46:36 uk pppd[1065]: Serial connection established.
 Feb 18 20:46:37 uk pppd[1065]: using interface ppp0
 Feb 18 20:46:37 uk pppd[1065]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
 Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: local IP address 194.247.41.27
 Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: remote IP address 194.247.41.30
 Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: ppp not replacing existing default route to 
 eth0[0.0.0.0]
 Feb 18 20:46:41 uk pppd[1065]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP
 
 So the connection establishes ok, it something to do with internal network 
 running on 10.0.0.1 on eth0.  Has anybody got any ideas how i can get around 
 this or fix it ?

You probably have your default route going through your ethernet before 
starting pppd, and pppd doesn't remove it.
Either:
  1) Remove the ether defaultroute (it's not necessary if you've got only
 one network, and if you've just got a few of them, add manual routes)
  2) Set up the defaultroute in an ip-up script and re-establish the 
 previous one in an ip-down script.

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Re: Beginner kit

1997-02-19 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Brian S. Julin, you wrote:
 
 
 
 Oops.  Well I just accidentally dumped the mail I'm
 responding to.  This is Re: not wanting to buy a Debian
 CD or spend hours on the line downloading.  I saw that
 there is a company selling Linux-on-a-drive advertising in
 Linux Journal.  I think they were loading the drive with 
 Debian 1.1.  But you do have to commit to buying a 1.1G
 drive, so it comes out pretty pricy.  Good if you want to
 upgrade your hd anyway.  I can look up their contact
 if you don't subscribe to LJ; e-mail me.

We (Coastal Internet/buoy.com) do this also. We can supply the drive,
our you can ship us the drive. We partition it and load your choice
of packages on it. X11 config is extra because we just don't have
every card and monitor out there. There doesn't seem to be a lot
of response for it tho..

Tim

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Re: Fetchmail/procmail

1997-02-19 Thread Kevin M. Bealer
Jason Killen wrote:
Thanks for the pointer on fetchmail.

The part about having procmail send the mail to an intermediate mail box
is intresting and a little over my head (I don't know much about procmail,
just a sweep of the man pages.) but I will try to work things out.

Thanks a lot.

On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Behan Webster wrote:

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Monolith : driven by inner daemons  My thoughts of despair are getting
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If you are loosing mail, you might want to look in the /var/spool/mail
directory.  I don't remember what I did wrong, but earlier this year I
had a configuration problem and my mail ended up there with the user
name of nobody.  I wish I could remember what I did to fix it (it
works now).  I think I had a problem with the .procmailrc and I
scrapped it and wrote another one (the old one had gotten a lot of
junk in it anyway.)  After this everything went fine.

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lprng bouncequeus

1997-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Another reader on this list replied to my question about lprng,
but I read your mail and am still having problems, but have lost
your email address.

My printcap now says

lp|bj20|bubblejet:\
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:sd=/var/spool/lpd/bj20:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:if=/usr/sbin/bj10e-filter:\
etc

lpq shows that the queue is a bouncequieue to the correct destination.
But when I print some postscript, it fires up gs but nothing ever
happens from then, gs is asleep. This happens even if I get
the filter to be gs directly, rather than magicfilter.
It seems that lpd is not feeding the job to magicfilter,
so no output. Or something; current status (still no printout)
is sending file ... to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and thats the last
thing in the log too. lpd (berkeley) is definately running on silly.


Hamish


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lprng still disasterous

1997-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I thought perhaps my lprng problems might be helped if the server
ran lprng too. So I installed it on there, and it works great;
an lp queue (raw) and a ps queue (runs ghostscript), no magicfilter
as yet. But now I can't print a damn thing from the remote machine;
lpq on the server just says ERROR: cannot open '/var/spool/lpd/lp/...' - 'No
such file or directory' always, using any queue.



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Re: fetchmail

1997-02-19 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner

Rob MacWilliams writes:
-   for Any other names, answer with any other domain names that may
- arrive on your machine
-  
- 
- Don't you want your localhost name here?  It seems to me that cron,
- etc. would otherwise send your system messages to your ISP?  For
- instance smail, if a message bounces it would go to
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] not back to you even if it was generated
- internally.  That is my concern, my ISP doesn't need to have my
- error messages sent to him.  Maybe I'm out to lunch, I hope so,
- because it would make my config job much easier.

The question you asked falls into 2 different categories:

1) The debian smailconfig automatically assumes the FQDN is local, and
   lists it as such. That's why the instructions say not to include it
   :)

2) Smail automatically sends postmaster mail to the name you gave it
   in the config (usually yourself). So it's not a concern there. Cron
   c, on the other hand get handled by case #1.

It confused me at first, until I read it. But you can look in the
generated smailconfig after the fact and verify that it is indeed
there.

-Larry


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Re: DepenGNUian Logo

1997-02-19 Thread Daniel Robbins
On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Joost Kooij wrote:

 Ronald van Loon wrote:
 
 Maybe we should call ourselves DepenGNUian Linux from now on.
 
 I've always wondered why I saw nobody come up with the following idea:
 
 If you've ever watched a documentary on the tv (you know, that monitor 
 without a keyboard) about penguins, you must have noticed these animals' 
 typical tendency to cluster themselves together in large communities.
 
 Wouldn't an image of that be the ultimately descriptive Debian logo?
 Well, just a thought, of course.
 Joost

Have you ever seen Nick Park's claymation The Wrong Trousers?  There's 
a really cute penguin in that short film.  Someday I may render one.

-=-

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School of Medicine Computer Services
University of New Mexico

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Re: Fetchmail/procmail

1997-02-19 Thread Jason Killen
I have procmail working now but everyonce in a while it says that it cant
get the lock /var/spool/mail/jasonlck.  Do you know why??  Can I fix it??

On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote:

Jason Killen wrote:
Thanks for the pointer on fetchmail.

The part about having procmail send the mail to an intermediate mail box
is intresting and a little over my head (I don't know much about procmail,
just a sweep of the man pages.) but I will try to work things out.

Thanks a lot.

On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Behan Webster wrote:

(clip)

Jason KillenQuestion Stupidity
Monolith : driven by inner daemons  My thoughts of despair are getting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   loud.   --Social D.


If you are loosing mail, you might want to look in the /var/spool/mail
directory.  I don't remember what I did wrong, but earlier this year I
had a configuration problem and my mail ended up there with the user
name of nobody.  I wish I could remember what I did to fix it (it
works now).  I think I had a problem with the .procmailrc and I
scrapped it and wrote another one (the old one had gotten a lot of
junk in it anyway.)  After this everything went fine.

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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

  Regarding the disk being too large, the partition that the system boots
  from should be entirely within the low 1023 cylinders. I handled this by
  creating a separate partition (about 40 MB) for /, and a larger one for
  /usr. Other than that, the disk size is not a concern, and this is a
  BIOS limitation, not a Linux one.
 
 Should not be a problem with LBA -- my Linux root partition is
 the last 700mb of a 1.6gb drive, ie well after 1023 cylinders.

Does this mean that you boot with lilo on such a drive?  LBA takes care 
of the problem?  This would be good news for me if it were true.

Thanks.  Syrus.

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21041 dec-chip

1997-02-19 Thread dpk
i have just installed debian on my machine, however the network is 
unreachable. i have an smc with a 21041 dec-chipset on it.  the module 
(tulip) was added without any problem upon installation. however when i 
rebooted the system i get these errors:

SIOCSIFFLAGS:  Try again
SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable

ifconfig and route only show the lo interface. no eth0.  i have 
been able to get the same type of card to work with debian sucsessfully, 
which makes this frustrating.  the only difference is this card connected 
via a bnc connector, the 'working machine' was 10baseT.  i know that i 
will need the eth0 interface for this to work.  i would appreciate some 
direction.  

ps.  i tried route add default eth0 and then
route add default gw xx.yy.zz.1 which was a cheap hack that i have seen 
work before.  however i had no sucess with this.

thanks to whom reply,
dennis

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Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v7)

1997-02-19 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Daniel Stringfield wrote:

   Unless massive action is taken to avert this ominous development, the

 Personally, I hate the Penguins, except the ones that are the outline.  I

I think there should be RULES declaring that if any logotype for the Linux
project is present in the Debian logo, so should the GNU be!

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Re: Marimba - Bongo - Debian ...

1997-02-19 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Toens Bueker wrote:

 Unable to initialize threads: cannot find class java/lang/Thread
 I have installed jdk-common 1.0.2-4 and jdk-static 1.0.2-4.

I had the exact same problem when trying to run HotJava (a WWW-browser
from Sun). Someone around here told me that this was because I had an
old version of JDK. (I also have 1.0.2.) Too bad there is no Linux port
of any newer JDK. But hang around www.blackdown.org (home of Java on
Linux), and just wait... and wait... :) (or help?)

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Re: Weird! My network turns itself off on bootup! Why?

1997-02-19 Thread William Chow


On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, trio wrote:

 
Wow. Now i see a /etc/conf.modules! I was looking for all the *.conf 
 files, but didn't see that one. On the other hand, there's no man page 
 for that either.

This file and all related module information is covered in the man pages
for modprobe, depmod, lsmod,  insmod, rmmod, and kerneld. Hopefully you
have these pages installed :)

Will




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Re: Is there a dictionary ... solved

1997-02-19 Thread Dr. Andreas Wehler
Thank you all for your help!

I was overwhelmed when looking into the many mails about abbreviations
and how to look them up.  Nevertheless I'll probably not adopt the
taste of speaking abbreviated, rather express it in C.

 Thanks all you helpers!
  Andreas.

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Xaccelerated

1997-02-19 Thread Franck LE GALL - STAGIAIRE A FT.CNET/LAB/FCI/PIH
Hello,

Since I have got a PC with a Matrox  Mystique video card, I purchased 
Xaccelerated programs. All of the installation works fine but when I run 
Xsetup, nothing happens (it doesn't output any errors but doesn't do anything!).

Does anyone have any idea about it ?

Thanks
Francks


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Re: Wrong permissions of /etc/rmtab?

1997-02-19 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Joost,

thanks for your reply, but I think you missed and 'r' :-). The file I am
refering to is '/etc/rmtab' not '/etc/mtab'. And it's not a relic from
an ancient installation neither, an other of our machines that I
converted to Debian-1.2 just a couple of weeks ago shows the same thing.

Regards,

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Re: G77 in stable

1997-02-19 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Scott,

maybe you accessed ftp.debian.org during maintenance. The g77 package in
'stable' was apparently updated to 'g77_0.5.19.1-1.deb' last night. Just
try again.

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Re: 21041 dec-chip

1997-02-19 Thread Dr. Andreas Wehler
: i have just installed debian on my machine, however the
: network is unreachable. i have an smc with a 21041
: dec-chipset on it.  the module (tulip) was added without any
: problem upon installation. however when i rebooted the system
: i get these errors:

 This reminds me at the cable not connected problem that we have
with a new smc 8432BT EtherPower PCI card, sized just 70mm x 100mm,
connected to BNC.  The net works ok with another, 1 year old card, and
this new mini card has worked too for about 1 month.  With ezstart the
loopback test fails, even on a 2m cable, terminated with 2 resistors.
The generated and received electrical signals look ok (observed with a
digital scope), but the card doesn't be happy with them.  We called
for a new one.  (Do you see any messages in /var/log/messages?)
- Andreas.

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cron doesn't start at boot up?

1997-02-19 Thread Chow Chi-Ming
Hi,

System: Debian 1.2
Package: cron_3.0pl1-36.1

It seems that cron is not started by postinst.  Is this delibrate?
How do the /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly} work?

Thanks.

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Re: ls colors gone after upgrade

1997-02-19 Thread William Chow


On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Richard Jones wrote:

 
 William Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  On 17 Feb 1997, Michael Harnois wrote:
  

   .bashrc and/or .profile (or .cshrc or .zshrc, whatever):
eval `dircolors`
alias ls 'ls --color=auto'
   
   This would be wonderful if it were the correct answer. However, as we
  
  This IS the correct answer, WTF are you talking about? I've been using a
  similar alias in my startup scripts for months now.
  
 
 How often do you use X? Your solution will work on the console, it will
 even print bold characters for special files with Xterms, but it wont
 do colour on my system.  The Xresource mentioned below needs to be set.

Yeah, but nowhere did you mention this in your reply. You should've said
this doesn't appear to work in my xterm... etc. not ls color doesn't
work.
 
 
 As far as I know Michael is correct on this one, man ls will tell you how
 to get ls to output the required terminal codes to send color, but you need
 to setup xterm to be able to displace them.  BTW is maybe your brain froze 
 over really necessary? I know Michael was a little flamey on his reply, but 
 this seems a reaction to your orignal unwarranted, Read the man page you 
 bloody fool, response.

I didn't appreciate the attitude expressed in this would be wonderful if
it worked, etc. etc. when the person replied with the correct answer to
the question. You  should've asked the right question, which is ls color
appears to work when I am in regular console mode, but not in my xterm,
or even better  when in my  color-xterm. The reply to the former would
mostly be are you sure you're using a color xterm the reply to the
second would be are you sure your  resources are set correctly?

Ask the right  question, get the right answer, otherwise you start
confusing people.

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Re: ls colors gone after upgrade

1997-02-19 Thread William Chow


On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

  Version 3.13 of ls has the default dircolors compiled in, so the
 eval `dircolors` line in the profile is redundant as far as 'ls' is
 concerned.  However, a few other programs (I can't remember which at
 the moment) depend on the LS-COLORS variable that dircolors sets and
 exports, so it is desirable to leave that line in the profile. :-)
 
Interesting... For those who are lazy at  setting up aliases, there is
also a patched version of the program that automatically sets up the
various required aliases. I had it in my original Slack distribution, but
I am not sure if it is on sunsite. Probably in the release notes.

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Re: Is there a dictionary for abbreviations like WTF?

1997-02-19 Thread James LewisMoss

  Hi, I would like to resolve these many abbreviations today, as AKA
  (also known as) WTF (???) ... So, is there any appropriate
  dictionary?  Thanks. Andreas.

Missed the beginning of this conversation.  Hope I'm not repeating
anything.

Online web computer dictionary:
http://wfn-shop.Princeton.EDU/foldoc/

Word list and other site:
ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/misc/dictionaries/unix-format

Webster site:
I've attached an emacs interface to a webster dictionary below.

There was a post in comp.os.linux.announce today concerning a
commercial dictionary that can now be obtained.


I find myself using the online computer dictionary quite often.  The
word list site is great for creating really huge ispell lists.  I also
use the webster emacs interface frequently when I'm in emacs.  The
last I don't know much about other than it was posted just recently.

Jim

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Re: The LSL TriLinux2 CD?

1997-02-19 Thread Paul Seelig
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
William Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I see no reason why there ought to be another one of these quick ref
 manuals for Linux. The dozen or so commands that are different from
 Sys V and the lpr system are not worth whatever amount of money it
 is to get another book if you already own a the UNIX book, and
 although Linux newbies might benefit from the quick reference, often
 I think the man pages are much better.

It is IMHO great to have a reference book dedicated primarily to the
GNU tools because it is the relevant thing for Linux. The man pages
have the disadvantage that you have to read them on the screen and
that they usually contain too much data to be useful information. And
i do think it is nice to actually have a real book made out real paper
in your hands when doing your work. Nothing beats a well structured
book when you need information instead of data.

 For the same money I'd get the Matt Welsh Running Linux book, which
 is in a 2nd edition and a lot of fun to read.  

You'd pay more money for less information actually!  I've bought
Running Linux one year ago and was largely disappointed because it
seems to be primarily aimed at the beginner and leaves lots to be
desired when you are more advanced. The chapters on programming and
LaTeX are IMHO a waste of the paper they are printed on because they
hardly scratch the surface and are not really useful. Here in Germany
exist some books which are clearly better in this regard.  

It is probably a good book for doing positive Linux advocacy among
those who still need to be convinced. I personally don't like that it
contains so much words in comparison to such few useful information
making it useable for your day to day reference.

Linux in a Nutshell has the advantage of being very condensed and
referencing almost everything you need to lookup once upon a while in
a single source of information. Great book! :-)

   Regards, P. *8^)
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Re: Marimba - Bongo - Debian ...

1997-02-19 Thread Toens Bueker

On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Jonas Bofjall wrote: 

 I had the exact same problem when trying to run HotJava (a WWW-browser
 from Sun). Someone around here told me that this was because I had an
 old version of JDK. (I also have 1.0.2.) Too bad there is no Linux port
 of any newer JDK. 

But how can there be any linux-versions of marimba, if there is no usable
version of the jdk? And furthermore I'm not aware of a 'newer' jdk - 1.0.2
is the bug-fix-version of 1.0.1.

Further hints?

By
Töns


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Re: Upgrading by shaky ftp...

1997-02-19 Thread James LewisMoss
 Kevin == Kevin Traas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  How will dselect react to the PPP-link going down while upgrading
  by ftp? Sometimes I can be on for hours without problems,
  othertimes the connection drops every 5-15 minutes...
  
  Can I just reconnect and restart dselect Install/Upgrade and it
  will resume with regetting the last (incomplete) .deb file?

 Kevin I've had success with this only because I have a static IP
 Kevin address with my ISP.  If you are running PPP with dynamic
 Kevin addressing, then I think you can forget it

No it works fine.  dselect notices after a short while that it is no
longer connected and checks to see what it did get.  (including
excluding any partially retrieved packages)  And goes into install
mode 'Do you want to install the packages retrieved?' or some such.
Just type n and hit install again.  It'll reget the partial file and
continue on.  When you got them all install them. :)

(Happens to me all the time)

Jim

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Re: fetchmail

1997-02-19 Thread James LewisMoss
 Rob == Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For instance, my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], so I
  answered airmail.net here. This tells smail that mail with this
  name is meant for it, and that any mail it sens out should look
  like it came from this address.
  
   for Any other names, answer with any other domain names that
  may arrive on your machine
  

 Rob Don't you want your localhost name here?  It seems to me that
 Rob cron, etc. would otherwise send your system messages to your
 Rob ISP?  For instance smail, if a message bounces it would go to
 Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] not back to you even if it was generated
 Rob internally.  That is my concern, my ISP doesn't need to have my
 Rob error messages sent to him.  Maybe I'm out to lunch, I hope so,
 Rob because it would make my config job much easier.

bounces occur while your MTA is talking to the machine it is
delivering to.  So it does the bounce and does it correctly to the
local machine.  (at least with sendmail I assume smail is the same)
Heck I have sendmail on my machine translating both hostname and
usernames to different ones and there is no problem.

Jim

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Thanks (Upgrading by shaky ftp...)

1997-02-19 Thread Michael Tempsch
Thank you all for replying! 
(Kevin Traas, Shaya Potter, Rob Williams, Greg de Freitas, James LewisMoss)

From your responses I conclude that dselect, as I thought, will do the
right thing. I just wanted to make _sure_ it wouldn't mess things up...
 
Seems like the phoneline will be busy tonight,

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Problem solved for fdisk (?)

1997-02-19 Thread Gennaro Zezza - Fac. Sc. Politiche
I have apparently solved the problem with my large disk, though not in an
entirely satisfactory way.
I noticed that fdisk will not allow a partition to begin AFTER cylinder
1024, be it a logical or a primary partition.
I therefore had my last partition start before cyl 1024 and all error
messages have disappeared.
This is not entirely satisfactory since I did not want such a large
fourth partition...

Hope this might help someone else, and if you have better solutions let me
know.

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Change From: in mail

1997-02-19 Thread Stefan Walder

Hi,

I want to change th from: field in my mail going out to my ISP. I'm using
smail. Is there any solution. I also want to change the name of the sender.

Thanks
Stefan Walder

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AUI cable in 3C590

1997-02-19 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

I'm planning to connect a AUI cable into a 3C590 card. 
Is there some problem? Does Linux deal with it?

Thanks,
[]s,

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Re: need /usr/lib contents

1997-02-19 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
Here's my suggestion. First cd to the /var/lib/dpkg/info directory and then 
execute this one line perl program:

% perl -ne 'chop and print $ARGV$_\n if m|^/usr/lib/.[^/]+$|' *.list

This tries to list all the lines that start with '/usr/lib/' and have no '/' 
afterwards. Just remove '[^/]' and it dumps the whole '/usr/lib/' tree.

This is the head of the output it gave when I tried it:

base-files.list/usr/lib/locale
binutils.list/usr/lib/libbfd.a
binutils.list/usr/lib/libbfd.so.2.7.0.3
binutils.list/usr/lib/libopcodes.a
[cut]

It also lists the directories that are in the /usr/lib e.g. /usr/lib/locale 
but I hope that's ok. My regexps are a little shaky, so maybe one of the perl 
gurus on the list can verify that it's correct.

Rikki Doh! Hall wrote:
 I inadvertently erased my /usr/lib directory (meaning to erase 
 /usr/local).  I have tried to reconstruct it as best as I can, but I am 
 not sure that I have gotten everything.  Here is the output of 'ls /usr/lib':
[cut]
 If someone could send me the same listing from their system or point out 
 which libraries I am missing, I would be appreciative.  Would there be 
 any hidden files in /usr/lib? (w/ names starting with .)  Does X keep any 
 libraries there?

I don't think X has any libraries there. As far as I know, they can be found
from /usr/X11R6/lib. There is /usr/lib/X11 but it's a symlink to
../X11R6/lib/X11 ( /usr/lib/X11 - ../X11R6/lib/X11 ).

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Re: Wrong permissions of /etc/rmtab?

1997-02-19 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
I just tried to export a file system from a machine which does normally
export nothing so no '/etc/rmtab' existed. Result: again (IMHO) wrong
permissions, '/etc/rmtab' was created world writable. So I think I'll
file a bug-report...

Thanks again!

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Umsdos?

1997-02-19 Thread Giuliano Procida
Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Ah, you make it sound so easy ;-)  I can't seem to get this right. I

Nor could I for a long time!

 copy the kernel to the file linux and run ./rdev.sh. This script tries
 to run rdev /mnt/linux /dev/ram0 - and there is no /dev/ram0. Why does
 the script ask for something Debian doesn't supply? Anyway, if I ignore
 this error or run the command manually with /dev/ram (which I do have),
 and boot the floppy, it stops here:
 
 RAMDISK: compressed image found at block 0
 VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem)
 Root is mounted from /dev/ram
 /etc/rc done.

I have to say I'm not sure what's going wrong. This looks like it
_might_ be a corrupted root fs image. ALT F3 gives a log of all
process deaths with error messages so any frantic activity should be
reflected there.

   As an alternative, you could try my modifications to the boot-floppies
   package to handle UMSDOS installs. There has just been a new
   boot-floppies release, so I'll have do some merging before I have a
   proper set of patches ready. Have a look at
   ftp://pootle.magd.cam.ac.uk/ if you are interested (patches against
   boot-floppies 1.2.5).
 
   My mirror doesn't carry 1.2.5, only 1.2.4. It seems there's some stuff
 specific to your system in the patch (I saw some copying of loadlin);
 was I too early downloading it?

Oh dear, 1.2.4 is the current stable version, 1.2.6 is the current
unstable version. The boot-floppies package needs to reflect current
locations of packages needed for the install. To use it you will also
need an NFS mount (or whatever) of (parts of) a Debian distribution.
It is probably not worth your while for the moment.

I'll try and make up some new boot 'floppies' (actually just three
files to download onto your ZIP drive). They contain everything needed
to install the current _un_stable base packages; it would be nice to
see if one other person can get through a UMSDOS install. I'll let you
know when it's available by ftp from my machine. Let me know if you
need anything peculiar in the kernel (besides fat, umsdos, parallel
port?, scsi, etc, etc!)

Giuliano.


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Re: Debian installation

1997-02-19 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:
 Should not be a problem with LBA -- my Linux root partition is
 the last 700mb of a 1.6gb drive, ie well after 1023 cylinders.

Does this mean that you boot with lilo on such a drive?  LBA takes care 
of the problem?  This would be good news if it were true.
It is true.

Nils

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Re: clock

1997-02-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Richard Heller wrote:

 Hi,
 
   This is my third try.  The first time I wrote the wrong address to send to,
 the second time I got blocked by the spam filter because I've never posted
 anything before, so third time's a charm,right?  Ok, I have Debian Linux 1.1
 and the clock displays the wrong time. The time's ok under dos, but not under
 Linux.  I think maybe I answered one of the questions wrong when installing, 
 but that was a while ago and by now I have too much stuff set up to reinstall.
 How do I reconfigure the clock without reinstalling?
 
Run tzconfig and make sure that you answer the GMT question correctly.

Luck,

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XFree for S3 86c765?

1997-02-19 Thread Jeff Gunter
Hi all,


I have a friend who wants to get Linux and X going on his fairly shiny new PC.
 He has installed Slackware but run into trouble with his  video card. In
between keystrokes on my PhD thesis (some non-trivial fraction of which is
being written in latex on my little Debian notebook) I think I have him
convinced to switch to Debian, especially if it looks more probable that he
will be able to get X up and running.

He claims to have a video card that is driven by an S3 86c765.  I poked around
XFree and cannot find any mention of this chip.  So, what are the odds it looks
like some other S3?  or would that be an S3V?  Any suggestions?



Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions.







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Re: ls colors gone after upgrade

1997-02-19 Thread Richard Jones

William Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Richard Jones wrote:
 
  
  William Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
   On 17 Feb 1997, Michael Harnois wrote:
   
 
.bashrc and/or .profile (or .cshrc or .zshrc, whatever):
   eval `dircolors`
   alias ls 'ls --color=auto'

This would be wonderful if it were the correct answer. However, as we
   
   This IS the correct answer, WTF are you talking about? I've been using a
   similar alias in my startup scripts for months now.
   
  
  How often do you use X? Your solution will work on the console, it will
  even print bold characters for special files with Xterms, but it wont
  do colour on my system.  The Xresource mentioned below needs to be set.
 
 Yeah, but nowhere did you mention this in your reply. You should've said
 this doesn't appear to work in my xterm... etc. not ls color doesn't
 work.
  

Yes I didn't mention it because I was not the original poster, read the 
attributions please.  Perhaps the original poster should have mentioned in 
perhaps you should not have stated your fix worked in xterms.

  
  As far as I know Michael is correct on this one, man ls will tell you how
  to get ls to output the required terminal codes to send color, but you need
  to setup xterm to be able to displace them.  BTW is maybe your brain froze 
  over really necessary? I know Michael was a little flamey on his reply, 
  but 
  this seems a reaction to your orignal unwarranted, Read the man page you 
  bloody fool, response.
 
 I didn't appreciate the attitude expressed in this would be wonderful if
 it worked, etc. etc. when the person replied with the correct answer to
 the question. You  should've asked the right question, which is ls color
 appears to work when I am in regular console mode, but not in my xterm,
 or even better  when in my  color-xterm. The reply to the former would
 mostly be are you sure you're using a color xterm the reply to the
 second would be are you sure your  resources are set correctly?
 

Once again I was not the original poster, the original poster asked:
ls colors gone after upgrade. How can I get these back?

Now you are correct it doesn't give much information, but nor does it say I 
can't get color ls to work on the console as you assumed it did, but my 
quarrel is not with the quality of your reply (if he was having console 
problems it would have been perfect advice) it is with the general tone of the 
original and subsequent replies on this thread.  They appear to me to be 
likely to discourage people in asking for help when they need it.

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libc/locale bug in strftime()?

1997-02-19 Thread Riku Saikkonen
[I'd submit this as a bug report, but I'm not sure which package has the
bug, or even if it is Debian-specific.]

[I posted about this a week ago to comp.os.linux.development.system; no one
replied. Later I got a chance to test it on a Slackware system (with libc
5.2.something, I think), and the bug wasn't there...]

I think I found a bug in libc 5.4.20. The strftime() function dumps core
when called with %b or %B in the format string (to get month names). But
if I compile the program statically, it works, strangely enough. The bug is
reproducible. Here's a transcript:

{anar}rjs:~/t$ cat k.c
#include stdio.h
#include time.h

main()
{
  char s[32];
  struct tm tm;
  
  tm.tm_mon=1;
  strftime(s,32,%b,tm);
  printf(s='%s'\n,s);

  exit(0);
}
{anar}rjs:~/t$ gcc -o k k.c
{anar}rjs:~/t$ ls -l k.c k
-rwxr-xr-x   1 rjs  rjs  4121 Feb 12 00:05 k
-rw-r--r--   1 rjs  rjs   160 Feb 12 00:04 k.c
{anar}rjs:~/t$ ./k
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
{anar}rjs:~/t$ ls -l k.c k core
-rw---   1 rjs  rjs258048 Feb 12 00:05 core
-rwxr-xr-x   1 rjs  rjs  4121 Feb 12 00:05 k
-rw-r--r--   1 rjs  rjs   160 Feb 12 00:04 k.c
{anar}rjs:~/t$ gcc -static -o k k.c
{anar}rjs:~/t$ ./k
s='Feb'
{anar}rjs:~/t$ 

My system is a Debian 1.2.6 installation with libc 5.4.20, gcc 2.7.2.1,
Linux kernel 2.0.27 (kernel compiled by me, nothing very special; libc and
gcc are from Debian, libc5_5.4.20-1 and gcc_2.7.2.1-4), running on a
Pentium-100. My locale settings are as installed by Debian (no LOCALE or
LANG environment variables set).

Can someone else try the above code to see if it happens on Debian in
general or only my system? Can someone fix the bug? :)

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Re: Easy ways of configuring Debian

1997-02-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Daniel Robbins wrote:

 What do I use instead of dselect to install software?  I have all these 
 .deb packages on my vfat partition that need installing.  Thanks for the 
 info...
 
dpkg -i /path-to-packagefile/package_version.deb

Luck,

Dwarf

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Re: cron doesn't start at boot up?

1997-02-19 Thread Bernt T. Hansen
Billy-

Try
# update-rc.d cron defaults

I had to add the links for cron after installing it to have it start
at boot time for run levels 2-5.

You should probably read about the boot process information in
# info debian
under 'Customizing' question 11.3 and 11.4

There is a good description of what happens at boot time and how to
change it.

If cron is running it is supposed to process the file in /etc/crontab
and on my system this is what starts the daily/weekly/monthly jobs.

Good luck,
-Bernt.

On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Chow Chi-Ming wrote:

 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:31:09 +0800
 From: Chow Chi-Ming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: cron doesn't start at boot up?
 
 Hi,
 
 System: Debian 1.2
 Package: cron_3.0pl1-36.1
 
 It seems that cron is not started by postinst.  Is this delibrate?
 How do the /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly} work?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Debian install tkdesk etc...

1997-02-19 Thread hunnia
I installed Debian from Infomagic winter edition.
Dselect worked properly, except it did not configure/install
4 packages. Two of them I mention here:

tkdesk. The complain is that it depends on xlib.
motifnls. The complain is that it depends on xbaseR6.

Now looking at the directories I see that X11/X11R6 is installed.
I tried ghostview and it works properly.
I even looked at the ftp site and saw that xlib6 depend on libc5.
I ftpd and unzipped the latest libc5 library. I still have the
problem.
  What to do? (ftp on debian is not yet installed. for that I still
use Slackware.)

Sandor

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Automount (amd) cdrom and floppy

1997-02-19 Thread robsi
Greetings !

Is it possible to configure amd to automount my cdrom and floppy
device (iso9660 and vfat) ?
If it is, could someone please direct me how to do this.
An example of a map-config would be much appreciated.
I have gone through the docs but got even more confused.

TIA.

Robert


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Re: package compilation

1997-02-19 Thread Daniel J. Mashao
On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote:

 I've run into a snag making a kernel package for version 2.0.29. I got
 new sources, patched them, did a make-kpkg clean and then a make-kpkg 
Why patch the new sources? I thought you only needed to patch if you had
2.0.28 sources and wanted to upgrade to 2.0.29. Anybody??

 --rev 2.0.29 kernel-image. Everything goes along fine until the very end
 which looks like this:
 
 cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage \
debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29
 cp vmlinux debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinux-2.0.29
 cp System.map debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.29
 chmod 644 debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29 \
   debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinux-2.0.29 \
   debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.29
 dpkg-gencontrol -pkernel-image-2.0.29 -Pdebian/tmp-image/
 parsechangelog/debian: error: badly formatted trailer line, at changelog 
 line 6
 dpkg-gencontrol: error: syntax error in parsed version of changelog at 
 line 0: empty file
 make: *** [stamp-image] Error 29
It looks like you new kernel was made after all. I would copy it to the
right place /boot/vmlinuz and use it. I think your problem may have a lot
to do with the patching.

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Re: real audio ...

1997-02-19 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Richard G. Roberto wrote:

 Having problems with realaudio, looked in a few relevant files:

 # grep realaudio /etc/mime.types 
 audio/x-pn-realaudiora ram
 # grep realaudio /etc/mailcap 
 audio/x-pn-realaudio; raplayer %s; test=test $DISPLAY != ;description=RA 
 RAM realaudio format

 My local configs in my home directory look like:

$ grep realaudio .mime.types .mailcap
.mime.types:type=audio/x-pn-realaudio  exts=ra,ram
.mailcap:audio/x-pn-realaudio; raplayer %s

 I suppose it's possible that the 'exts=' has something to do with it. I 
haven't had any problems bringing up realaudio sounds in Netscape...

 Sincerely,

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Re: XFree for S3 86c765?

1997-02-19 Thread dpk
I don't know much about the chipset numbers, but the chipset looks 
familiar...

You might want to check if his video card is the S3 ViRGe chip.  The 
latest lease of XFree86 (ver 3.2) contains the driver for this card.  
Make sure you get the X_S3V server for installation.

Hope this is of some help.
Dennis

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On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Jeff Gunter wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 
 I have a friend who wants to get Linux and X going on his fairly shiny new PC.
  He has installed Slackware but run into trouble with his  video card. In
 between keystrokes on my PhD thesis (some non-trivial fraction of which is
 being written in latex on my little Debian notebook) I think I have him
 convinced to switch to Debian, especially if it looks more probable that he
 will be able to get X up and running.
 
 He claims to have a video card that is driven by an S3 86c765.  I poked around
 XFree and cannot find any mention of this chip.  So, what are the odds it 
 looks
 like some other S3?  or would that be an S3V?  Any suggestions?
 
 
 
 Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: AUI cable in 3C590

1997-02-19 Thread Jason Killen
I'm not sure about a driver but you should probally use the dos
utility to set your card to AUI instead of autodetect.

On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:


Hi,

   I'm planning to connect a AUI cable into a 3C590 card. 
Is there some problem? Does Linux deal with it?

   Thanks,
[]s,

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Re: DepenGNUian Logo

1997-02-19 Thread Behan Webster
 Have you ever seen Nick Park's claymation The Wrong Trousers?  There's
 a really cute penguin in that short film.  Someday I may render one.

Cute?  He scared me.  As you probably remember, he was master-mind jewel
thief who dressed as a chicken to commit crimes.  He also drove poor
Grommit away from Wallace.

Poor Grommit.

Still, a pair of those surplus NASA trousers would be handy sometimes...


Behan 8) 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Debian install tkdesk etc...

1997-02-19 Thread joost witteveen
 I installed Debian from Infomagic winter edition.
 Dselect worked properly, except it did not configure/install
 4 packages. 
 
 Now looking at the directories I see that X11/X11R6 is installed.
 I tried ghostview and it works properly.
 I even looked at the ftp site and saw that xlib6 depend on libc5.
 I ftpd and unzipped the latest libc5 library.

Well, you should never unzip (and probably untar) the libc5 files
yourself. Always use dpkg or dselect for that: they will remmeber
where the files went so that you can uninstall the packages, and they
will mark the libc5 package as installed. Still, I wonder how
you can unzip the debian libc5, as it's in .deb format. So, I
guess you didn't get the debian libc5 (did the filename end with .deb?).

To get recent debian packagres, ftp to ftp.debian.org (or on one to
it's mirrors)

 I still have the problem.

You mean, dpkg/dselect complaining that libc5 is not installed?
That was expected.

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Re: What's wrong with Debian User List

1997-02-19 Thread csmall
Mikael Hallendal typed:
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
 Hi!
 
 I have a question. The same messages are dropping in over and over again. 
 I've 
 got the
 same messages for about 25 times now.
I'm so glad someone else said that, I just thought I was going mad over
getting 300+ messages a day.  How often have i said, that message looks
familiar

  - Craig

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Re: Automount (amd) cdrom and floppy

1997-02-19 Thread Hayao Nakahara

  Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:34:49 +0100
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Is it possible to configure amd to automount my cdrom and floppy
  device (iso9660 and vfat) ?
  If it is, could someone please direct me how to do this.
  An example of a map-config would be much appreciated.
  I have gone through the docs but got even more confused.

Yes you can.
The followings are some of my /etc/adm/amd.xxx files.
On such configuration, I can 
mount cdrom by accessing /l/cd,
mount floppy with ext2 format by /l/fd
mount floopy with fat format by /l/msdos.
and explicitly umount cdrom by amq -u /l/cd, and so forth.

= /etc/amd/amd.master ==
-x fatal,error,user,warn,noinfo,nostats -r -a /a
/n  /etc/amd/amd.net
/home   /etc/amd/amd.home
/l  /etc/amd/amd.local
/r  /etc/amd/amd.remote
= /etc/amd.amd.local ===
cdrom   opts:=utimeout=12000,rw,nosuid;dev:=/dev/scd0;fs:=/cdrom;\
type:=program;\
mount:=/bin/mount mount -t iso9660 -o ro,nosuid ${dev} ${fs};\
unmount:=/bin/umount umount ${fs}
fd  opts:=utimeout=1200,rw,intr,nosuid;dev:=/dev/fd0;fs:=/floppy;\
type:=program;\
mount:=/bin/mount mount -t ext2 ${dev} ${fs};\
unmount:=/bin/umount umount ${fs}
msdos   opts:=utimeout=1200,rw,intr,nosuid;dev:=/dev/fd0;fs:=/floppy;\
type:=program;\
mount:=/bin/mount mount -t msdos ${dev} ${fs};\
unmount:=/bin/umount umount ${fs}
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Help with disk partition.

1997-02-19 Thread Jose Antonio Martin Guerra

I am new to Linux and I am trying to install it on a SCSI 2GB Quantum
Fireball hard drive.

I would like to use 500MB for Linux and 1.500MB for DOS, WINNT, WIN95.

How do I go about creating partitions and formatting the disk, taking
into account the problem with  1024 cylinders.

I am starting from scratch so I can reformat the whole disk.

Any help would be appreciated !!


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Re: Debian install tkdesk etc...

1997-02-19 Thread Michael Tempsch
:
:I installed Debian from Infomagic winter edition.
:Dselect worked properly, except it did not configure/install
:4 packages. Two of them I mention here:
:
:tkdesk. The complain is that it depends on xlib.
:motifnls. The complain is that it depends on xbaseR6.

I've got the very same package and some of the dependencies in that 
cut seem to be leftovers from earlier versions (ie gets the name wrong),
probably corrected in the never distributions.

Try to 'dpkg -i --force-depends /path/to/the/package.deb'
the motifnls and tkdesk packages. At least the motifnls should
be OK this way, since you did have X installed. The tkdesk should
be OK too, I've got it working here... (1.2 from Infomagic Dec '96)

:Now looking at the directories I see that X11/X11R6 is installed.
:I tried ghostview and it works properly.
:I even looked at the ftp site and saw that xlib6 depend on libc5.
:I ftpd and unzipped the latest libc5 library. I still have the
:problem.
:  What to do? (ftp on debian is not yet installed. for that I still
:use Slackware.)

You might need to get rid of the libc5 you installed and get the 
corresponding .deb package and install that one with dpkg so Debian
will know whats installed (if you by unzipping do not mean installing
with dpkg...) 

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Re: 21041 dec-chip

1997-02-19 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, dpk wrote:

 i have just installed debian on my machine, however the network is 
 unreachable. i have an smc with a 21041 dec-chipset on it.  the module 
 (tulip) was added without any problem upon installation. however when i 
 rebooted the system i get these errors:
 
 SIOCSIFFLAGS:  Try again
 SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
 SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
 

I have noticed that SMC cards in general are rather touchy about how their
drivers are installed.  I usually have the best luck by compiling the
drivers directly in the kernel rather than using modules.  I am somewhat
mystified as to the cause of this erratic behavior but since I have to
deal with a number of different SMC cards (WD8003, Ultra, EtherEZ and
EtherPower PCI) I have not been able to isolate the cause of the problem.  
With the older cards, it is the 0x300 address and IRQ conflicts which
gives the most problem.


Cheers,

Carlo

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Bug with libraries?

1997-02-19 Thread John T. Larkin
Two friends of mine receintly installed the stable Debian distribution,
and both had the same problem.  (One installed about 2 months ago, the
other 2 days ago from an updated mirror).  
The file /etc/ld.so.conf did _not_ include the line:
/usr/X11R6/lib

This was bad; everything linked with the x libraries couldn't run
since they couldn't find the libraries.  They had installed a bunch of
X packages, so one of the packages should have been responsable for making 
sure that this line was added to /etc/ld.so.conf, correct?

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