Re: Nombre para un Web Browser Svgalib
El Sun, Mar 23, 2036, Ivan Andres Hernandez Puga... Dado que hay animos comencemos con el nombre, Yo conozco un proyecto de navegador svgalib: Wb0 http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/wb0/ Pero la información de la web es tan escasa que se puede colocar aquí: At ftp://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/pub/local/clock you can see all my software from the top. wb0 A svgalib web browser -- an early version yet. It knows how to display text and gifs and pcxs and jpegs anfd png. The net part still very primitive. Also Czech garbaged-encoding support. You can view almost anyhow distorted encoding (half of document in 8859-2, half in 1250 etc.) You can download it. Karel Kulhavy Como veis no pone la fecha de la última actualización, ni dice el tipo de licencia que tiene, pero al menos para echarle un vistazo puede resultaros interesante. Un saludo. -- Cosme P. Cuevas --- Claves GnuPG/PGP disponibles. http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lounge/8698/ pgpB2ROlPuhC5.pgp Description: PGP signature
pon no funciona
Muy bien, despues de arreglar el mdem de mi amigo(GRACIAS A TODOS) se present otroproblema, esta vez en mi PC. Ahora no me funciona pon, es decir le doy el comando y se queda pensando por un ratico y me regresa al prompt sin haberse conectado. aqu est el /var/log/ppp.log: Feb 18 16:17:37 ozono pppd[350]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (BUSY) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (VOICE) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: send (ATF^M) -- Yo supongo que es esto. De dnde diablos sali ese ^M? Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: expect (OK) Feb 18 16:18:23 ozono pppd[350]: Connect script failed Feb 18 16:18:23 ozono chat[352]: alarm Feb 18 16:18:23 ozono chat[352]: Failed Feb 18 16:18:25 ozono pppd[350]: Exit. Dnde se guarda la cadena de inizializacin del mdem. Por ah buscando encontr un archivo(ya no se donde) que deca: CONNECT BUSY CARRIER ... y otras cosas raras. Y una lnea que deca exactamente as: ATF ... y algo aqu que no recuerdo. Por si acaso la volv a escribir, pero nada. Qu creen que puede estar pasando? ADnoctum __ MicroSoft ha reinventado la Rueda... como un Cubo.
Re: pon no funciona
ADnoctum wrote: Feb 18 16:17:37 ozono pppd[350]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (BUSY) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (VOICE) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: send (ATF^M) -- Yo supongo que es esto. ¿De dónde diablos salió ese ^M? Feb 18 16:17:38 ozono chat[352]: expect (OK) Feb 18 16:18:23 ozono pppd[350]: Connect script failed Feb 18 16:18:23 ozono chat[352]: alarm Feb 18 16:18:23 ozono chat[352]: Failed Feb 18 16:18:25 ozono pppd[350]: Exit. Segun esto no le estan llegando los comandos al modem. Revisa si lo estas mandando al dispositivo correcto. Blu.
Re: Nombre para un Web Browser Svgalib
Guenas On Sun, Mar 23, 2036 at 04:35:20AM +, Ivan Andres Hernandez Puga wrote: Dado que hay animos comencemos con el nombre, asi puedo armar una pagina donde coordinar los trabajos. De momento no hay ni lista ni nada pues no hay mas que la idea, pero ya va a empezar a surgir todo de algun modo. La cosa se anima :-))) Supongo que par coordinar esto, al menos al principio, va a haber que definir algunas cosas medio 'fe facto' (ugh!). Habria que pensar una interfaz tipo caja escroleable con una barra de direccion y los botones necesarios. Unas pocas fuentes bonitas (es mas de lo que tengo en X) no con muchos tama?os si se puede y una correcta renderizacion de tablas y frames como asi interpretacion de javascript / cookies (bajo configuracion). Cuando consigamos todo esto va a ser la bomba. Fijate la de navegadores que no soportan JavaScript ni frames, o que muestran las tablas de maneras, digamos, surrealistas. Si a nadie le parece muy autoritario podriamos intentar cada uno hace una caja con una barra abajo de donde se ingrese una direccion de un archivo de texto y lo ponga en pantalla, con barras de desplazamiento para moverse a lo largo y ancho del texto. Peerfeto. Yo le estoy echando un ojillo a la escasa doc (la pagina man de momento) de la svgalib, y me recuerda un monton a una libreria que use en DOS para un programa muy curiosete. Podemos poner una fecha en tiempo y tomar el mejor que haya para seguir sobre ese en mejoras una semana y luego fijar otro objetivo arbitrario. Si bien en un estado avanzado trabajar todos al mismo tiempo en lo mismo para elegir solo uno seria un desperdicio de momento necesitamos (yo al menos) nivelar el minimo de conocimientos en el manego de la svgalib. Hay que empezar al lio antes de que se enfrien los animos, bien codificando, o bien recopilando informacion y desarrollando ideas sobre como interpretar los codigos y demas. Trabajo es lo que va a sobrar, y de muchos tipos. Lo de la fecha fija para esta primera tarea me parece estupendo, que luego el primero que no tiene tiempo para nada y se eterniza en cualquier cosa soy yo :-)) En fin... ma?ana vere si tengo una pagina web para el proyecto y lo de la lista de correo... ni idea como conseguirlo, pero envienme un mail los que quieran participar asi nos mantenemos al tanto. Podemos hacer una lista en onelist. Tambien administro un pequeño servidor en la empresa y podria albergarse alli la lista, pero solo como ultimo recurso (tiene una conexion con una simple RDSI, asi que hay veces que no va muy alla): de todas formas, ahi queda la posibilidad. Saludines -- - | POWERED BY Debian 2.1 - Kernel 2.2.14 | | Andres Herrera User Reg. N.66054 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Grupo LIMA http://lima.telenet.es | - pgpDTMeRvfL5B.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Web Browser Svgalib]
Guenas On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 08:26:09AM -0500, Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote: Para la svgalib no se pero para el framebuffer ya se esta haciendo, el proyecto en si se llama zen. Personalmente prefiero el fb, supongo que sera por que no puedo usar la svgalib ;-( ¿Ei? ¿Ni a 320x200? Estaba pensando precisamente en eso (en el fb no en zen :oP). Veo tres ventajas: es más trabajado (es decir... en el 2.3.x tiene soporte para varias tarjetas nuevas, y generalmente cada nueva versión del kernel viene con correcciones y/o adiciones), se puede aprovechar la aceleración por hardware (de pronto no signifique mucho en un browser), y la mejor de todas: sería mucho más portable. Yo creo ver algun inconveniente en el tema del frame buffer, pero corregidme si me equivoco, plis :- Pre-supuestos: 1. El framebuffer es para tarjetas que soporten VESA 2.0 (es aqui donde puedo estar metiendo la gamba), basicamente tarjetas de un antiguedad escasa o mediana. 2. Un navegador en consola vendria bien en muchos casos, pero el mas evidente es el de equipos pequeños y/o antiguos, en los que las X no van muy alla y el Netscape es una tortura. 3. El framebuffer es utilizable en kernels 2.2 y siguientes, no en los 2.0 (que quedan muchos por ahi), y ademas no viene por defecto en los kernels que se instalan con las distribuciones sino que hay que recompilar expresamente. Por lo tanto (joe como me esta quedando esto :))) : El frame buffer creo que dejaria fuera a quienes mas necesitarian un navegador asi: equipos pequeños o poco dotados, y/o con kernels antiguos, y/o poco disco duro (seria ideal para esos minilinux que caben en uno o pocos diskettes). Ala, opiniones al respecto :-) Saludines -- - | POWERED BY Debian 2.1 - Kernel 2.2.14 | | Andres Herrera User Reg. N.66054 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Grupo LIMA http://lima.telenet.es | - pgpw9cAddMIRt.pgp Description: PGP signature
linuxlogo
Hola! Me he bajado las fuentes del linuxlogo, para compilarlo y que me salga el logo de Debian en el login. Pues bien, siendo la misma versión que hay ahora mismo en frozen, el apt se empeña en instalarme la versión del servidor, en vez de dejar la que que yo compilé... ¿que hago? ¿le pego? Si quieres saber cómo pertenecer a Paco Brufal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fidonet, la red de correo con más Fidonet 2:346/3.68 CALIDAD del Mundo y SIN SPAM, preguntame como. ...I Wanna Be A Hippy. Technohead. 1995 --- Pine 4.20 + Sendmail 8.9.3 * Origin: FAQ de R34.LINUX: http://www.linuxfreak.com/~r34_linux (2:346/3.68)
Re: linuxlogo
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 01:10:47AM +0100, Paco Brufal wrote: Hola! Hola Paco! Me he bajado las fuentes del linuxlogo, para compilarlo y que me salga el logo de Debian en el login. Pues bien, siendo la misma versión que hay ahora mismo en frozen, el apt se empeña en instalarme la versión del servidor, en vez de dejar la que que yo compilé... ¿que hago? ¿le pego? Esto es una lata, eh? Se discutió esto en debian-devel antes de Navidad, creo. Si no recuerdo mal, Wichert (maintainer de dpkg) dijo que se podría arreglar poniendo un flag nuevo: Origin:. Si tu origin es local, pues sólo se actualiza si el nuevo paquete también es local, etc. Si sueles usar stable, te queda bastante para verlo en tu sistema, de todas maneras. Estará en Woody... :) De momento, pon en hold linuxlogo despues de cada update :) Te paso un script para hacerlo sin dselect? Jordi PS: LinuxLogo con el Swirl se salía. Odio el típico pingüino. PS2(aux): Pasteo el script porque es ridículamente pequeño :) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dpkg-hold #! /bin/bash # dpkg-hold -- command line tool to flag package(s) as held. # # by Craig Sanders, 1998-10-26. This script is hereby placed into the # public domain. # # BUGS: this script has absolutely no error checking. this is not good. if [ -z $* ] ; then echo Usage: echo dpkg-hold package... exit 1 fi for i in $@ ; do echo $ihold done | dpkg --set-selections -- / Rediscovering Freedom, Using Debian GNU/Linux\ / \ | Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | http://sindominio.net | \ telnet pusa.informat.uv.es 23 / \/ pgpPJWcnP53lQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Web Browser Svgalib]
At 11:25 PM 2000-02-15 +0100, Andres Herrera wrote: Guenas Holaz On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 08:26:09AM -0500, Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote: [...] Yo creo ver algun inconveniente en el tema del frame buffer, pero corregidme si me equivoco, plis :- Pre-supuestos: 1. El framebuffer es para tarjetas que soporten VESA 2.0 (es aqui donde puedo estar metiendo la gamba), basicamente tarjetas de un antiguedad escasa o mediana. Si y no :o) También hay soporte para VGA-16. 2. Un navegador en consola vendria bien en muchos casos, pero el mas evidente es el de equipos pequeños y/o antiguos, en los que las X no van muy alla y el Netscape es una tortura. Crees que el fb es pesado? 3. El framebuffer es utilizable en kernels 2.2 y siguientes, no en los 2.0 (que quedan muchos por ahi), y ademas no viene por defecto en los kernels que se instalan con las distribuciones sino que hay que recompilar expresamente. Buehhh... eso sería lo único medianamente complicado Por lo tanto (joe como me esta quedando esto :))) : El frame buffer creo que dejaria fuera a quienes mas necesitarian un navegador asi: equipos pequeños o poco dotados, y/o con kernels antiguos, y/o poco disco duro (seria ideal para esos minilinux que caben en uno o pocos diskettes). Lo unico complicado serían los kernel antiguos, igual tenés que usar una librería para crear la interfaz del navegador, sea fb o svgalib. PD: DinX es un sistema de ventanas basado en el kernel que usa fb, la página es http://dinx.sourceforge.net/ -- Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] A proud Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 User.
RE: [Web Browser Svgalib]
= Original Message From Ugo Enrico Albarello [EMAIL PROTECTED] PD: DinX es un sistema de ventanas basado en el kernel que usa fb, la página es http://dinx.sourceforge.net/ Recuerdo que hace unos años cuando andaba trasteando con el DJGPP había un entorno de ventanas bastante trabajado llamado SWORD. ¿Alguien sabe si está portado a Linux? En todo caso es bastante probable que fuera GPL. Taluego. Roberto Henriquez Laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Re: resucitando un viejo 486 (GGI?)]
Hell-o Ivan Andres Hernandez Puga! El día Sat, Mar 22, 2036 at 05:08:33PM CET Ademas, si la gente usara GGI se podr?a elegir sobre como ejecutar las cosas segun las preferencias del usuario y no por imposicion GGI? Que es, Graphic Gateway Interface? para que sirve, y donde esta la especificacion? os paso un poco de info ;) --- ggi --- What is GGI? Hartmut Niemann $Date: 1998/06/29 17:07:22 $ This document tries to give a short (possibly simplified) impression on what GGI is all about. __ Table of Contents 1. The GGI mission 2. The GGI design principle 3. Things GGI gives you at no extra cost 4. Where is GGI now? 5. Things the GGI team wants to do, too 6. What about including GGI into the Linux kernel? 7. What about X? 8. What is evStack? __ 1. The GGI mission We want to create a reliable, stable and fast graphics system that works everywhere. We want to allow any program using GGI to run on any platform requiring at most a recompile. It all started out with some people being annoyed by the fact that graphics in Linux means either X or svgalib, and if you use both at the same time, you can easily crash the graphics card and make the system unusable. The Linux kernel does protect the hardware from faulty user access, so all graphics programs need to be run by root or set-uid root, which poses security problems. If two applications work at the same time with the graphics chip, you can expect problems. The GGI sets out to solve these problems. The basic rules we identified are o The kernel must be able to re-initialise the graphics board at any time. Only then is the system protected from buggy graphics applications, and only then is a true SAK (secure attention key) possible. o To make user-space graphics (outside X) possible, all operations that require root privileges must be done from the kernel. However, we can't do everything in the kernel if we want to avoid having huge graphics drivers bloating it, which led to the GGI design scheme described in the next chapter. 2. The GGI design principle As stated above, security-critical functions like mode-negotiation (you don't want a game to fry your monitor with a too high refresh rate, do you?) need to be in kernel space. All requests ought to be filtered, checked, scheduled and generally taken care of by a graphics device driver in kernel. All things that can be safely done from user space, typically like setting a pixel on the display, should be done in user space instead of the kernel. This has the twofold effect: reducing the size and complexity of the graphics code in the kernel, and increasing the speed at which such operations can be performed, since kernel calls can be relatively expensive. The big problem is that what operations are 'safe' depends heavily on the hardware you are using. o Some displays have a fixed size and resolution, so mode negotiation is almost non-existent, and the kernel can safely export the complete video memory (aka frame buffer) to a user application. In the worst case the program will display garbage on the screen. o Some displays do not have a frame buffer to give access to. o Some cards have important accelleration features but are poorly designed so that erroneous or malicious code could lock up the computer. Other cards are well-designed enough that accelleration features can be used directly without risk. o Some cards use interrupts or allow DMA access -- both are obviously the domain of the kernel. As a result, if one wants to create a uniform kernel API to support all of these features, it must then contain emulation code for all of those features particular piece of hardware does not support. Under those conditions, the kernel driver would become massive and slow, even though many things like line drawing on the framebuffer could have easily been done in userspace instead. GGI has proposed a solution to this dilemma -- allow the kernel API to be hardware-specific. A library, LibGGI, presents a uniform API to applications. LibGGI contains functions for all the various graphics operations, and depending on the capabilities underlying hardware and kernel interface, it will either emulate them in software, in userspace, or make use of an accellerator function exported by the kernel in some manner. The user program need not concern itself with how a particular graphics function is implemented, or even with what operations the graphics hardware supports. Side note: in a later stage, more complex functions like textured triangles will be supported, and these will go into a separate library which will use the same design. Side note
Re: linuxlogo
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 02:42:56PM +0100, Jordi wrote: Jordi PS: LinuxLogo con el Swirl se salía. Odio el típico pingüino. ¿Y no te gustó la versión de pinguino de Debian? Me llevo un par de tardes hacerla :) Un saludo Javi
Metodo apt-cdrom no aparece en dselect...
Tengo la distribución Citius Debian 2.1 (slink), y si la instalo desde el CD autoarrancable, en el dselect me aparece el método apt-cdrom. En cambio, si creo un disco de arranque e instalo desde el CD pero booteando con el disco de arranque, no aparece dicho método en el dselect. Alguien me puede decir como hacer para que aparezca? Ya probé volviendo a instalar el apt, y nada...
RE: Metodo apt-cdrom no aparece en dselect...
= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Tengo la distribución Citius Debian 2.1 (slink), y si la instalo desde el CD autoarrancable, en el dselect me aparece el método apt-cdrom. En cambio, si creo un disco de arranque e instalo desde el CD pero booteando con el disco de arranque, no aparece dicho método en el dselect. Alguien me puede decir como hacer para que aparezca? Ya probé volviendo a instalar el apt, y nada... A mí me pasó algo similar con esa distribución, y creo que lo que sucede es que en el CD 2 hay una versión *más reciente* de apt. La instalé encima de la anterior y apt-cdrom de nuevo. Los CDs de que hablo son los que venían con la Linux Actual de Prensa Técnica. De todas formas, cuando instalo esa versión no me aparece apt-cdrom en dselect, simplemente aparece apt, pero esta vez reconoce perfectamente el fichero sources.list que se genera con la utilidad apt-cdrom. Taluego... Roberto Henriquez Laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Autofs
¿Alguien sería tan amable de decirme algo sobre este demonio que me arranca Debian siempre que inicio el equipo? La poca información que he encontrado -algunas páginas de manual en inglés- no me han aclarado casi nada; Parece una utilidad para automontar algunas particiones (¿cómo?). A mí me aparece un directorio que utiliza como punto de montaje? (/misc) y un fichero de configuración parecido a misc.conf en el que hay algo parecido al fstab pero que no me cuadra con lo que yo tengo ahí. Agradecería que me dijéseis algo sobre su utilidad o, por el contrario, si puedo prescindir del mismo.
Re: [Web Browser Svgalib]
Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guenas On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 08:26:09AM -0500, Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote: Para la svgalib no se pero para el framebuffer ya se esta haciendo, el proyecto en si se llama zen. Personalmente prefiero el fb, supongo que sera por que no puedo usar la svgalib ;-( Pre-supuestos: 1. El framebuffer es para tarjetas que soporten VESA 2.0 (es aqui donde puedo estar metiendo la gamba), basicamente tarjetas de un antiguedad escasa o mediana. 2. Un navegador en consola vendria bien en muchos casos, pero el mas evidente es el de equipos pequeños y/o antiguos, en los que las X no van muy alla y el Netscape es una tortura. 3. El framebuffer es utilizable en kernels 2.2 y siguientes, no en los 2.0 (que quedan muchos por ahi), y ademas no viene por defecto en los kernels que se instalan con las distribuciones sino que hay que recompilar expresamente. Por lo tanto (joe como me esta quedando esto :))) : El frame buffer creo que dejaria fuera a quienes mas necesitarian un navegador asi: equipos pequeños o poco dotados, y/o con kernels antiguos, y/o poco disco duro (seria ideal para esos minilinux que caben en uno o pocos diskettes). Creo que estoy de acuerdo. Se puede reutilizar gran parte de lynx. ¿no? -- Saludos. Antonio. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Web Browser Svgalib]
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Andres Herrera wrote: Yo creo ver algun inconveniente en el tema del frame buffer, pero corregidme si me equivoco, plis :- Pre-supuestos: 1. El framebuffer es para tarjetas que soporten VESA 2.0 (es aqui donde puedo estar metiendo la gamba), basicamente tarjetas de un antiguedad escasa o mediana. El framebuffer es un fichero /dev/fbx que simula la memoria gráfica de la tarjeta de vídeo instalada. Esto quiere decir que leyendo y escribiendo el fichero, se modifica la pantalla. Las ventajas de abstracción son evidentes. Ahora bien, para cada tarjeta hace falta código específico que cambie la resolución (tu puedes escribir en el framebuffer como si la pantalla estuviese a 1024x768, pero si está a 320x200, mal asunto). Es por esto que hace falta un driver o como lo quieras llamar (a mí me gusta módulo), que controle estas operaciones físicas. Por ahora sólo hay 3 o 4 módulos nativos, las matrox, ati y creo que algo más. En la nueva serie de kernel 2.4 habrá muchos más módulos (eso dicen). Como esto no existe para cada tarjeta, se ha creado un módulo parche, que usa las características VESA de cada tarjeta para cambiar la resolución. Dado que para usar VESA hay que usar BIOS, ésto sólo se puede hacer una vez antes de arrancar linux. Resultado: obtienes un framebuffer con cualquier tarjeta que soporte VESA 2.0 pero te quedas en esa resolución hasta que resetees el ordenador. 2. Un navegador en consola vendria bien en muchos casos, pero el mas evidente es el de equipos pequeños y/o antiguos, en los que las X no van muy alla y el Netscape es una tortura. ¿Algún problema con eso? Si un navegador funciona en mi 386, lo sigo prefiriendo en mi PII antes que el netscape, dado que consume menos recursos. 3. El framebuffer es utilizable en kernels 2.2 y siguientes, no en los 2.0 (que quedan muchos por ahi), y ademas no viene por defecto en los kernels que se instalan con las distribuciones sino que hay que recompilar expresamente. Exácto. Todavía hay poco soporte para esta maravilla del framebuffer, pero va cambiando. Una de las ventajas del framebuffer es que un programa que lo use funcionará en una Sparc, como un PowerPC, un PC, o cualquier otra cosa que lo emule. Si mal no me acuerdo, los Psion serie cinco usan framebuffer (en escala de 4 grises, creo) para usar una versión de Linux, y así todos los programas funcionan con ellos. Por lo tanto (joe como me esta quedando esto :))) : El frame buffer creo que dejaria fuera a quienes mas necesitarian un navegador asi: equipos pequeños o poco dotados, y/o con kernels antiguos, y/o poco disco duro (seria ideal para esos minilinux que caben en uno o pocos diskettes). El framebuffer de mi matrox añade unos 60Kb a mi kernel. Si eso lo usas para deshacerte de todo un servidor XSVGAlib, creo que has ganado en espacio. Además, que uses framebuffer no hace que tu sistema vaya lento necesariamente, depende del programa y cómo use la pantalla. -- Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gogosoftware - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/ Windows NT - Nearly Terminated.
Re: Oracle 815
Yep Netman! El Tue, 15 de Feb de 2000 a las 01:48 AM, Netman escribió: me pongo a comparar, me faltan dos archivos (que anteriormente he visto citados en los wrappers de java): i18n.jar y rt.jar En los .deb no vienen esos archivos :-? Esto es el colmo.. Parece que en debian no desarrolla mucha gente con java :( Acabo de ver la Debian proposed policy for java 0.3: - [...] Packages written in Java are separated in two categories: programs and libraries. Programs are intended to be run by end-users. Libraries are intended to help programs to run and to be used by developers. Both must depend on java-virtual-machine. Both are shipped as Java bytecode (*.class files, may be packaged in a *.jar archive) and with an Architecture: all since Java bytecode is supposed to be portable. [...] - O sea, que si deberían estar en formato .jar Acabo de repasar /usr/lib/jdk1.1/lib/classes.zip y tiene la pinta de incluir todas las .class que van en i18n.jar y rt.jar -- ## ## # ## #[EMAIL PROTECTED]2:346/[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ## # ## ICQ UIN 1523792 Usuario Linux 94909## ## Debian GNU/Linux ## _##__##_
Re: Autofs
Miguel A. Abarca wrote: ¿Alguien sería tan amable de decirme algo sobre este demonio que me arranca Debian siempre que inicio el equipo? La poca información que he encontrado -algunas páginas de manual en inglés- no me han aclarado casi nada; Parece una utilidad para automontar algunas particiones (¿cómo?). A mí me aparece un directorio que utiliza como punto de montaje? (/misc) y un fichero de configuración parecido a misc.conf en el que hay algo parecido al fstab pero que no me cuadra con lo que yo tengo ahí... ... La función del autofs es -como su nombre lo indica- montar automáticamente un filesystem cuando alguien lo necesita. Esto es especialmente útil cuando tienes una red, con los datos de los usuarios repartidos en varios servidores y con varias máquinas en las cuales se puede conectar cualquiera de los usuarios. Sin el autofs, cada una de las máquinas debería tener montados todos los directorios de los servidores para que cada uno de los usuarios tenga acceso a sus datos independientemente de la máquina a la que se conecte. Con el automounter en cambio, si no hay nadie logeado los directorios no están montados. Cuando un usuario se conecta e intenta acceder a sus datos, el directorio se monta automáticamente. Y cuando el usuario deja de usar sus datos, después de cierto tiempo, el filesystem se desmonta automáticamente. También es muy útil cuando tenés discos removibles (floppy, CD, zip, jaz, etc.), para montarlos automáticamente y sin necesidad de permisos especiales. El paquete autofs de Debian está bastante bien hecho y sale andando ni bien lo instalás. El único detalle es que en tu kernel tenés que tener habilitada la opción autofs. (para verificarlo: cat /proc/filesystems debe aparecer una línea con: nodev autofs si no aparece habrá que recompilar el kernel). Hay un archivo de configuración principal (/etc/auto.master) donde se le indica cuáles son los directorios especiales, y un archivo de configuración por cada directorio especial, donde se le indica qué cosa debe montar en cada caso. Por ejemplo: -/etc/auto.master: /misc /etc/auto.misc -- -/etc/auto.misc: floppy -fstype=vfat,umask=000 :/dev/fd0 etcnet -ro,soft,intr cabmec11:/etc cd -fstype=iso9660,ro :/dev/hdb En este caso, cuando se intenta acceder al directorio /misc/cd el autofs automáticamente crea el directorio /misc/cd y monta el dispositivo /dev/hdb con las opciones: filesystem tipo iso9660 y en modo read-only. Para más información (en inglés): http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs-HOWTO.html -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()=\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm
Acentuação :(
Olá pessoal, Estou tendo problemas para configurar acentuação corretamente no X. No Netscape a situação é a mais crítica, pois não posso utilizar o til, nem o ', nem qualquer outra dead key (eu tentei alguns scripts que prometem acentuação fácil hehe). Estou com acentos em programas comuns no X (como esse, balsa) bem como no console. Alguém tem sugestões? (BTW o script que peguei fica em http://jefferson.computers.webjump.com, foi obviamente a versão Debian... Tentei de tudo, mas não consigo fazer esses acentos funcionarem em todos os lugares :/). Espero que possam me ajudar. -- Carlos Laviola
[Fwd: Re: a litle help!]
Original Message Subject: Re: a litle help! Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:03:33 -0400 From: Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Clovis Sena [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boa Tarde! Você primeiro precisa configurar sua placa. Vou assumir os seguintes parâmetros da rede: - Você tem o controlador da placa compilado como módulo de nome ¨ne¨ (NE1000/2000) - Você somente tem uma placa de rede NE2000 usando eth0 que está funcionando na IRQ 10, I/O 0x300. - sua máquina tem o endereço 192.168.1.1 (Classe C) Bom vamos na configuração: 1-) inicialização e detecção da Placa. Eu não tenho certeza se a Corel usa o modconf (provavelmente sim) para configurar os módulos que serão carregados no boot, se usar inicie este programa, vá até ¨net¨, e lá escolha ¨ne¨. Ele vai lhe pedir para digitar a IRQ e I/O da placa, digite: io=0x300 irq=10 As placas PCI normalmente são detectadas sem estes parâmetros, mas não custa dar uma acelerada na inicializacão do sistema :-) Se o modconf não estiver disponível, então a configuracão vai no modo manual: No arquivo /etc/modules inclua a linha: ne Este arquivo indica quais os módulos serão carregados pelo kernel no boot. No arquivo /etc/conf.modules inclua a linha: options ne io=0x300 irq=10 Este arquivo define as opcões que serão usadas durante a configuracão do módulo ne. Nota: Você pode configurar a placa manualmente para teste usando o comando: modprobe ne io=0x300 irq=10 2-)Configuração da interface (endereço IP, Netmask, Broadcast) com o ifconfig: edite o arquivo /etc/init.d/network e coloque os parâmetros: IPADDR = 192.168.1.1 NETMASK = 255.255.255.0 NETWORK = 192.168.0.0 BROADCAST = 192.168.1.255 Nota: Você pode configurar a interface manualmente para teste com: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 3-) Criando a Rota para a placa de Rede Este é o passo final, se você fez o passo acima e a Corel usa os mesmos métodos de configuração da Debian, não precisa fazer mais nada! Apenas re-execute o arquivo /etc/init.d/network entrando no diretório com ¨cd /etc/init.d¨ e digitando ¨./network¨. E teste com o comando ¨ping 192.168.1.1¨. Esta descrição é baseada na Debian, mas a Corel é baseada na Debian então você pode se basear nesta solução para solucionar o problema :-) Clovis Sena wrote: bom dia, e aih pessoal, tudo bom? seguinte: numa instalacao do Corel linux, qdo este nao detecta a placa de rede, como fazemos p configurar a placa de rede de novo??? tem alguma ferramenta p isto no Debian??? ( este eh o problema de ferramentas super-automotizadas! qdo algo nao funciona, vc fica chupando dedo... ) a pergunta pode parecer ridicula, mas eh q eu nao uso debian ha algum tempo e esqueci como faz as coisas... se eu jogar os parametros via lilo funciona?? Atenciosamente, -- Clovis Sena Itautec Servicos/Filial Recife Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fone: 081 - 421 1126. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acentuação :(
Estou tendo problemas para configurar acentuação corretamente no X. No Netscape a situação é a mais crítica, pois não posso utilizar o til, nem o ', nem qualquer outra dead key (eu tentei alguns scripts que prometem acentuação fácil hehe). Estou com acentos em programas comuns no X (como esse, balsa) bem como no console. Alguém tem sugestões? No netscape 4.7 funciona. Tive este problemas com a versao 4.2 se nao me engano. []'s +--+---+-+ | Helio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro |[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Powered | | http://www.lcmi.ufsc.br/~helio | http://www.engnux.ufsc.br | by| | http://www.engnux.ufsc.br/~helio | http://www.aikido.ufsc.br | FreeBSD | +--+---+-+ Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vaccuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vaccuum tubes and perhaps weigh 1 1/2 tons. -- Popular Mechanics, March 1949
Re: adding headers to postscript files
I'm looking for a filter that will allow me to add headers to existing postscript files (i.e. file names and date stamps). Mpage comes close with the -X option, but does not allow me to specify the header content. Is there anything else packaged for Debian that will do this? Mike a2ps does this as well as much more. It takes a while to understand all of the comand line options, but the info file is not a bad read! ;-) (bit long though) -ptw
Athalong install of slink?
A friend of mine is interested in converting from cladera to Debian. He's running an Athalon processor and I've heard there are problems with older kernels and Athalon's. Is there going to be any known problems with the kernel that comes in slink? Robert :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| definitely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: Segmentation fault
On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 11:08:21PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:43:25 -0800, davidturetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] was crying out from somewhere about: Re: Segmentation fault davidturetsky I believe this is the code that was getting me into trouble, but it could be davidturetsky elsewhere davidturetsky davidturetsky fscanf (file, %s, Title); davidturetsky fscanf (file, %d %d %d %d %d %d, m, n, it, LT, EQ, GT); Probably, the input string was too long for the char* Title? I don't know. MSC seems to let the stack be destroyed quite quietly. It's a feature, methinks. Not too many segfaults when developing, but occasional BOD on using. This is why, I think, that fgets is recommended over scanf/fscanf. You'll always know the maximum of the data you read in. Of course, then you still have to split it and check your input data matches what you expected to receive. Also, newlines and whitespace can pile up in scanf/fscanf. It's generally recognized as being unsafe (like C/C++ in general!). -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
RedHat -- Debian tool?
I have a RedHat 6.0 box, my laptop actually. I've converted all my other boxes to debian. I'm almost ready to convert it, but I'd rather not nuke it out right. Is there a way to convert it from RedHat to Debian in a clean manner? Robert :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| definitely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: silencing modem
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Micha Feigin wrote: michf How do i turn the volume of my modem off when using pon ? (ppp) michf kppp manages to silence the modem suggest you do something like: launch minicom configure it to talk to your modem hit ATZ (you should see it reply 'OK') then hit ATM=0 (it sohuld reply 'OK') then hit ATW (again it should reply 'OK') exit minicom that should turn off the speaker. check your modem documentation, or see http://www.firetrail.com/~aphro/atmodem.pdf for more info on the AT command set. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:29pm up 180 days, 7:46, 2 users, load average: 1.05, 1.06, 1.01
Re: C++ question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Shao Zhang wrote: Eg. if I compile with this: $ g++ -g -c misc.c misc.c: In function `char * cash(double, int, int)': misc.c:44: implicit declaration of function `int bracket(...)' misc.c:45: implicit declaration of function `int comma(...)' The output is exactly the same with the newest g++ version, and older g++. But the difference is that the older version will create a .o file and the new version will not. And I can only see an error message when they are compiled using make. Could you please post the relevant lines from your source? It was not included with your first post. Are 'bracket' and 'comma' functions that you have defined, or are they variables? Also, why are you using g++? All this looks like C code, and your source file ends in a lowercase 'c'. The C++ compiler should handle it properly, of course, but I've seen (and can post, if you want) some examples of valid C code that won't compile in a C++ compiler. I don't know how g++/gcc handle situations like this, but it seems a bit suspicious to me. noah PGP Public Key available at http://www.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html or by `finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOKoOdIdCcpBjGWoFAQFYpAP/XC0ZyM8u9KdO9mMGaYwstxqRXd/nxtWo +bSdoSZ+SykiefKeXQoHK1h680oaABVNcBJ5tMBhbWt2oZIRyVCi7yZcafxs+1WT K5xXw8T0KGfPP/+J9UG0ixv50ATH1O8KT+paq9TSdNZ1y5oVgXUb1U7Tu7+5tzH8 N7lVjQuR+uQ= =iKG3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: PCMCIA Network Installation
Hi Dave Whiteley; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: I have an Ethernet Gold II PCMCIA card, (GCS2220) Looking at Linux Laptop documentation it suggests that this card uses pcnet_cs. I have run the Configure PCMCIA in the installation process before configuring the drivers. I accepted the default settings. What driver module should I select to get the network going? Or am I missing something somewhere Thanks to everyone who answers questions here. You are extremely useful to me. Dave Whiteley I am no expert, but I don't think you need to load any modules (provided you do have the pcmcia installed). You should edit /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file to suit your setup, connect the card and let it go. This approach worked for me (running frozen, pcmcia-cs_3.1.8-4 and xircom card). _Do not_ set up any network info in /etc/init.d/* files; pcmcia takes care of it. HTH, damir
Re: silencing modem
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 02:10:54AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: How do i turn the volume of my modem off when using pon ? (ppp) kppp manages to silence the modem probably the best way is to add a L0 to your initstring, for some modems at least that sets volume level to 0 ie nothing.. I would assume that is all kppp is doing. -- Ethan Benson
RE: silencing modem
On 16-Feb-2000 Micha Feigin wrote: How do i turn the volume of my modem off when using pon ? (ppp) kppp manages to silence the modem Put M0 in your modem init string. I use diald and mine is in /etc/diald/connect -- Andrew
Re: silencing modem
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 02:10:54AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote How do i turn the volume of my modem off when using pon ? (ppp) kppp manages to silence the modem To mute it as a default, for most modems: - Run minicom; - Set speaker volume to 0 by typing ATM0 - Wait for OK - Save this as the default by typing ATW - Wait for OK - exit minicom To mute it when using pon, for a given provider: - Edit /etc/chatscripts/provider, and change ATDTprovider's phone number to ATM0DTprovider's phone number HTH, John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
Re: Exim: frustrations configuring a satellite system
On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:19:33PM +0100, Jean Orloff wrote Well, you see how cumbersome it can be: I sent the orignal message yesterday to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which does not exist). I got no warning that the message never arrived, but being cautious, I figured it out by myself this morning. So I reposted the message to the correct address, still leaving [EMAIL PROTECTED], to which you blindly Cc'ed. Did you receive a notice that your Cc never arrived? On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:28:46 -0200, Henrique M Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Henrique On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Jean Orloff wrote: So there is a difference between the way Exim sends outgoing mail depending on whether it receives it from an SMTP session or from the command line (presumably a different ENVELOPE-FROM in the connection Henrique [...] this difference, but I am tired of trying. And most of all, I cannot believe I am the first to encounter this problem! There must be a much simpler solution... Henrique No, you're not. I had this problem, and also lots of headaches with Henrique exim not being able to handle user-extension addresses Henrique ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) rewriting in some situations (which cannot Henrique be fixed without changing exim code. I asked in the exim ML ;^) ). Henrique I know this is not what you want to hear, but ditching exim and Henrique installing Postfix in its place solved the problems. I do all three Henrique of your requirements here with Postfix (NOT the default Henrique configuration. You'll need to configure the thing by hand, as there Henrique are no helper scripts... but at least the FAQ and docs are Henrique good). Postfix doesn't have very powerful rewriting capabilities yet Henrique (exim does have them), but what it already has is good enough for Henrique me. Sendmail envelope masquerading has also been working for me for 2 years. But Sendmail is a bit heavy for the type of occasional use I want it for, and since Exim is kind of the default debian MTA, I switched back, recovering the headaches I had 4 years ago with smail (apparently a grand-father of Exim?). I might give Postfix a try, if nobody has an Exim solution, which I would consider grotesque! If Debian can't do better for personal mail than a stupid Windblows system... We're talking about lost mail here, so this pretty critical! I can't reproduce your problem here and I'm not sure why, but it seems to me there are two things you can try. 1: Add an MX record for debiansat.domain.net pointing to your smarthost, and add debiansat.domain.net to local_domains on the smarthost. Mail for debiansat.domain.net originating on your smarthost or from the internet should be delivered on your smarthost as local mail. This will work if the users on debiansat.domain.net also have accounts on your smarthost, and you control the delegation for domain.net. 2: Add the option header_remove = sender to the smtp transport on your smarthost; if it also acts as a smarthost for other machines that do have routable names, you can create a new smtp transport with this option and use it only for mail from debiansat.domain.net. This should work, but it will remove any sender header from outgoing smtp mail (which is why you may want to only use it for your satellite system). HTH, John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
Re: [*] rpm to deb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Szyszka) wrote: i saw a litter form this list, it said there are some tools can conver the rpm pakage to deb pakage. but can it work well? I'm very impressed with the 'alien' package (apt-get install alien). A couple people who suggested that I try it told me that it isn't entirely reliable, but so far I've only had two or three RPMs that didn't convert perfectly and two of those I was able to get working anyway (they just installed the programs in a different folder than the bin one so all I had to do was move it to /usr/bin or something like that). One program not working out of a buttload is nothing. Alien is very good. Yeah, it's less a problem of converting from .rpm to .deb than of converting from Red Hat to Debian package standards. By the way, to the original poster, your mail headers cause trn to segfault when trying to read them. This is undoubtedly a bug in trn, but I'm not volunteering to fix it; I'm not in any state to try to diagnose it at the moment, either ... If you could simplify them (probably by making your From: header plain ASCII as opposed to containing weird control characters) it would be much appreciated. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot compile newest Afterstep
What are the actual error messages? Also, are you running slink or potato? AfterStep 1.8.0 compiles just fine here on potato, provided that all of the necessary x-dev packages are installed. On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 05:50:17PM -0600, David J. Kanter wrote: I've followed the instructions, but never get the afterstep binary after compiling the 1.8.0 tarball source. Some error messages come up during the make ; make install stage, but nothing that looks too bad. Alas, no /usr/local/bin/afterstep, no new version. Oh well. -- David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xscreensaver
When I setup xscreensaver from gnome control center it works fine. Doing a ps ux shows it was called like so xscreensaver -no-splash -timeout 15 -nice 20 -lock-mode -xrm *programs:?flag -ncolors 256 -cycles 3000 -size 1 -root. However, when I try to put this in ~/.Xclients it complains about *programs:?flag, -ncolors, -cycles, -size, and -root not being known. How can I get it so that when I login (xdm) xscreensaver is started automatically without having to go into gnome control center each time? Yes I RTFM for xscreensaver, but it didn't tell me much. this doesn't solve the gnome issues and may conflict but works just fine for me with windowmaker. i just put xscreensaver -no-splash in my ~/.xinitrc. if you're using xdm instead of startx you need to put it in your ~/.xsession file instead. adam.
dial-on-demand changed?
Greetings -- Just got started with Debian a week or two ago; moved rapidly from slink to frozen, and am now running unstable. After an `apt-get dist-upgrade` late last week or early this week (possibly Sunday?), the handling of dial-on-demand PPP appears to have changed. The way it was working: after using pppconfig and checking the on-demand option, giving the pon command would start pppd, but nothing else would occur until data needed to be sent. The system would then dial-out, connect, get an IP, the data would go _swoosh_, and all was hunky-dory. This was great; it was almost like being on a real network, if you ignored the dial-in latency. However, about the time of the ppp/ppp-pam suidregister thing, this behavior changed; giving the demand option now appears to require a fixed remote IP, at least according to man pppd (and actually sets that IP to something in the 10.n.n.n net; I'm guessing this is based on some netmask setting somewhere), whereas before this worked with a dynamic remotely-assigned IP. Is it possible to revert to the earlier behavior, and if so, how? Thanks, john. -- John S Jacobs Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] \* Genehack: Not your daddy's weblog */ \*URL:http://genehack.org */
Re: afterstep
Possibly a stupid question, but are you sure that you have xterm installed? If I remember correctly it used to be included in one of the main X packages (xbase?), but now has it's own package. On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 08:17:12AM -0600, Timothy C. Phan wrote: Hi, I got the x to run and I selected afterstep as my window manager. Everything went well except that when I try to click the 'xterm' icon on the upper right corner and the xterm did not start? I did not have any customization on the afterstep. Every thing was default. TIA.
RE: the uninstall approach...
I have seen a few answers to this question, but none seem to address what I see as the actual problem, so I'll take a stab at it. The partitions have already been deleted, according to the posting, so the question of DOS or Linux fdisk to delete the Linux partitions is academic. The problem seems to be that, while the Linux partitions have been deleted, the original DOS partition is still 0.5 GB. The answer is to use DOS fdisk to delete the DOS partition and then build a new DOS partition of 2.5 GB and format it as C:\. HTH On 11-Feb-00 pplaw wrote: debs, ... i already deleted the linux partition/data; but after i formatted c:\, i still get a extended partition that fdisk cannot delete. (example: in one of the boxes, i have a 2.5gb hard drive. i used 2gb for hda1 and swap, leaving .5gb for windoze. after reformatting, i still only show c:\ as being .5gb, instead of 2.5gb. i need c:\ to see the other 2gb.) Marc Shapiro http://www.bigfoot.com/~m_shapiro/ -- Linux IS user-friendly. It is just picky about who its friends are.
Sound ES1371 issues
I've been trying off-and-on for months to get sound working on this box. The Readme's and HOWTOs and Dogpile searches just aren't answering my questions. I've got an ES1371 (Audio PCI 97) sound card (from Gateway Computers in an E-4200 box). First Question: When running make menuconfig, I go into the Sound entry and then press m on Sound Card Support to make it a module. This expands into several other options: Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1370) Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI 97 (ES1371) S3 Sonic Vibes Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Classic, Tahiti, Monterey Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Pinnacle, Fiji OSS Sound Modules Having read that some es1371 boards are actually es1370s, I selected both Ensoniq and marked them with an m to make them modules. I don't really understand the difference between the OSS Sound Modules and the others above that. I kindda thought that all the sound drivers in the kernel were OSS drivers, but this leads me to think that there are two types: the ones that are not OSS, and the ones that are. Anyway, if I M the OSS Sound Modules entry, I see that the 100% Sound Blaster Compatibles includes ESS, and I wonder if this is necessary for support of my card. Even though my card is an ES and not an ESS, I still have my suspicions. So my first question: Do I just need the ES1371, or do I need the ES1371 and the ES1370, or do I need the ES1371, the ES1370, and the OSS with 100% SB Compatible, or do I need some other combination? Second question: I'm assuming that I can install this/these drivers as modules rather than compiling them directly into the kernel. Is that a correct assumption? Okay, having compiled the ES1370 and ES1371 drivers in as modules, and having done a make dep, make clean, make bzImage, make modules, and make modules_install, and having copied the arch/i386/bzImage file to /boot/vmlinuz and modifying my lilo.conf file as necessary and re-running lilo and rebooting, I'm supposed to see (according to what I've read) references to the sound card fly by at boot time. Yet I don't see such a thing. Furthermore, according to the HOWTOs, etc, I'm supposed to be able to do a cat /dev/sndstat, yet that returns a No such device error. The /dev/sndstat file does exist. I suspect the problem is IRQ,DMA,IOport-related, but the HOWTOs seem to focus on ISA PnP cards rather than PCI, so I'm a little confused. I have learned enough to run lspci -v which returns quite a bit of info on various cards (ethernet, ISA bridge, etc); it also has the following: 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 1371 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 96, IRQ 11 I/O ports at 1080 Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 When I try to play sounds (using sox or splay, etc, or saytime), I sometimes get garbled sound, but more often than not, messages like no such output file or no such device, etc. Hopefully someone can help me figure out where to go from here. Thanks!
Re: ip spoofing protection
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:21:46 +1300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (mail/web server)... so if someone was able to obtain that ip address and use it as his/her own to get in, he/she will succeed. Is that really what ip spoofing is?? an outsider assigning his/her PC a valid ip address of a companies in order to get inside the network??? If so, how would I protect against this?? somewhat. with most ISPs you can send out packets with every source-ip you like, but the return path would differ, so, with a spoofed from, you wouldn´t get any packet back. imagine you allowed murphy.debian.org [209.41.108.199] full access to your machine and I would want to spoof that address. I´ll send out a packet something like: from: 209.41.108.199 to: your ip this packet would travel all the way to your machine, which quite probably would send an according answer packet to 209.41.108.199. but as I only spoofed the source of the original packet and not international routing, the answer packet would travel back to the real murphy.debian.org [209.41.108.199], which would quite probably discard it. so this kind of spoofing only makes sense in certain situations: - I could cause trouble with only one packet - I simply want to hide where a malicious packet came from or a combination of the above (denial of servive for example). also in most cases you cannot really protect against such attacks, only the ISP where the malicious packet originated can, allowing only packets to the outside where the source-address is also routed back to his user. you can compare that to postal delivery: you send out a letter from: your neighbor, the letter will arrive at the destination, but any answer will go to your neighbor because you the postman doesn´t know that your´re spoofing your neighbors nameaddress. hth, rw -- / Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: +43 1 89933 0 Fax x533 \ \KPNQwest/AT tech staff| Diefenbachg. 35 A-1150 Wien /
Re: C++ question
Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Shao Zhang wrote: Eg. if I compile with this: $ g++ -g -c misc.c misc.c: In function `char * cash(double, int, int)': misc.c:44: implicit declaration of function `int bracket(...)' misc.c:45: implicit declaration of function `int comma(...)' The output is exactly the same with the newest g++ version, and older g++. But the difference is that the older version will create a .o file and the new version will not. And I can only see an error message when they are compiled using make. Could you please post the relevant lines from your source? It was not included with your first post. Are 'bracket' and 'comma' functions that you have defined, or are they variables? Those two functions were declared in a another C file. And that C file is compiled with gcc. As soon as I found that, adding an extern C in the header file fixed the problem. So it is clear that the new version of g++ is much more restrictive, but I still prefer it will give me a clear error message so that I know there is something wrong... Also, why are you using g++? All this looks like C code, and your source file ends in a lowercase 'c'. The C++ compiler should handle it properly, of course, but I've seen (and can post, if you want) some examples of valid C code that won't compile in a C++ compiler. I don't know how g++/gcc handle situations like this, but it seems a bit suspicious to me. The code was originally written by someone else, and I had to modify it. It uses a whole bunch of libraries written in C. And I am too lazy to port it to C++. So I had to use both gcc and g++. But it is just a pain to keep the memory allocation consistent(new/delete, malloc/free). -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: silencing modem
Yeah, it's M0, i use it here due to the crappy provider i have dumping me off at 3am sometimes, nothing like a nice modem squeal reverberating thru the house to wake you up. Peter Good. On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 02:10:54AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: How do i turn the volume of my modem off when using pon ? (ppp) kppp manages to silence the modem Adding to /etc/chatscript/provider: OK ATM0 below the line: '' ATZ may do it. That's a zero, not the letter 'O'. I'm not sure if that's the right command (you'll find out pretty quick) cause I have mine set to ATL0 (low volume during dial and handshake). -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Exim: frustrations configuring a satellite system
At 06:32 PM 2/15/00 +, Jean Orloff wrote: [snip] Nothing special in rejectlog, and mainlog contains, for non-existing user on the smarthost: (this generates an error mail OK): 2000-02-07 19:24:22 12Htlm-0004aH-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=orloff P=local S=429 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2000-02-07 19:24:23 12Htlm-0004aH-00 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mailserv.domain.net [193.48.80.80]: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... User unknown 2000-02-07 19:24:23 12Htln-0004aJ-00 = R=12Htlm-0004aH-00 U=mail P=local S=1377 2000-02-07 19:24:23 12Htlm-0004aH-00 Error message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2000-02-07 19:24:23 12Htlm-0004aH-00 Completed Notice: error mail is sent locally by exim. Whereas for a non-existing remote host, exim transfers to the smarthost without choking: 2000-02-07 19:25:08 12HtmW-0004aO-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=orloff P=local S=415 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2000-02-07 19:25:29 12HtmW-0004aO-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=mailserv.domain.net 2000-02-07 19:25:29 12HtmW-0004aO-00 Completed and I never get any error message, despite the correct From and Sender header ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) This is strange indeed, I expected exim to choke on the incomming error message. The problem could be that incomming mail could not reach your mailhost and that the mail is re-routed to the fallbackhost that is in your DNS MX record. Please check your DNS settings, I had a problem with my DNS once and it also created strange mail problems with receiving mail. Maybe you could send your zone file... Regards, Onno
Re: masquerading ftp
There is a ip_masq_ftp module that allows you to use active and passive FTP behind a MASQ box. Works fine here. Regards, Onno At 04:07 PM 2/15/00 -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 03:06:00PM -0600, Brian McGroarty wrote: : As a learning exercise, I'm replacing our FreeBSD firewall with a Debian one. : The machine is used to provide masquerading for several Windows, Linux and : FreeBSD boxes on our cable modem. : : With Debian, FTP doesn't work from behind a standard masquerading firewall. : I've observed the problem with ipfw and ipchains both. : : What is different about the default handling of FTP, ICQ and similar clients, : and what should I read up on to change this behavior? Under FreeBSD, these : worked without any special handling. You need to use passive ftp from behind a masquerading box. I thought there was a masq module for FTP, but I guess I was thinking of the Cisco PIX. You have to examine each packet in a non-passive FTP session and rewrite IPs when NAT or masq is in play. -- Nathan NormanNetwork Magician, Eclectic Engineer GPG Key ID 1024D/51F98BB7 Eschew Obfuscation Key fingerprint = C5F4 A147 416C E0BF AB73 8BEF F0C8 255C 51F9 8BB7 Attachment Converted: c:\home\onno\email\attach\Re masquerading ftp
vi causing probs
Gidday all, I am a newbie. I was exploring my system (i386 running Slink) and have noticed that if I try using vi or elvis-tiny the screen freezes and every time I hit a key it flashes, I have to alt f2 and kill it. Where should I start looking to find the cause? The ae editor works fine. Thanks in advance for any help. Chjris. =
kernel 2.2.14, can't locate module
Hi! I just tried to update my kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.14. Compiling, mpkg and dpkg worked fine, but when I try to boot the new kernel it always claims that it can't locate some modules. The funny thing is, that he misses modules (like 3c59x for my network adapter) which I have definitly NOT compiled as a module! Even if I compile the kernel without modules at all, the same story happens. After installation of the kernel there exists a /lib/modules/2.2.14/ directory with the modules I want in it. Can anyone help me to solve this problem, I have really no ideas what to do anymore. Thanks a lot in advance. -- Bye Mitch. --- / Michael Symalla(Uni-Dortmund Physik E5) \ / DESY HERA-B Bldg.66/1 office phone: 040/8998 4985 \ / Notkestr.85Fax.: 040/8998 4033 \ / D-22607 Hamburgprivate phone: 040/5000857 \ / PGP Key on keyservers or via mail: Subject: send pgp \ --- c:\winnt secure_nt.exe Securing NT. Insert Linux boot disk to continue... pgpDSKztCKWEq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: too many panels in GNOME.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Cameron Matheson wrote: Hey everybody, I'm having a little trouble with GNOME. My power went out, so my Linux went down with it. I was able to get Linux running again, but now their are two panels in GNOME, and it opens my Home directory twice on startup. How do shut down both sessions, and make it start up with just one? To kill my panels I had run the Gnome Control Center selecting the Startup programs - List running programs, and then deleting from the list one panel. It's the only way I had deleted the panel from my desktop, cos' when I had killed using the 'kill' the Gnome restart again it. Good Luck! Thanks, Cameron Matheson ___ Darlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://darlockd.xoom.com Linux Registered User #153481 Our informal mission is to improve the love life of operators worldwide. -- Peter Behrendt, president of Exabyte Never make any mistaeks. (Anonymous, in a mail discussion about to a kernel bug report.) ___
Re: MODEM ERROR
1) Is this problem exists when you are trying to connect to your ISP as root? 2) Does root been able to use the port with a com software loke minicom? 3) I believe that the Modem-HOWTO is a good reference. ---BeginMessage--- Whenever I try to connect to my ISP I get: Cannot open /dev/ttyS1 : Input/output error How can I get this solved? TIA-Pee ---End Message--- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] An elephant is a mouse with an operating system.
Re: Segmentation fault
Thanks for all the feedback. I really don't know what the problem was here. The Title buffer was set to 80 char and the input was not 10 characters As I come up to speed, I'll get a better understanding of the nuances of gcc/g++. In the meantime, I think I'm much safer using safe practices, as below. In this particular case, it was useful for me to convert the code to c++ stream i/o, which reads very straightforwardly. I've since enhanced it with cgi code and it now outputs the results of its computation to a web page. For instance, the code below reads inTitle; inmnitLTEQGT; This will change again as I hand off the interface to the client terminal David - Original Message - From: Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Segmentation fault On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 11:08:21PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:43:25 -0800, davidturetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] was crying out from somewhere about: Re: Segmentation fault davidturetsky I believe this is the code that was getting me into trouble, but it could be davidturetsky elsewhere davidturetsky davidturetsky fscanf (file, %s, Title); davidturetsky fscanf (file, %d %d %d %d %d %d, m, n, it, LT, EQ, GT); Probably, the input string was too long for the char* Title? I don't know. MSC seems to let the stack be destroyed quite quietly. It's a feature, methinks. Not too many segfaults when developing, but occasional BOD on using. This is why, I think, that fgets is recommended over scanf/fscanf. You'll always know the maximum of the data you read in. Of course, then you still have to split it and check your input data matches what you expected to receive. Also, newlines and whitespace can pile up in scanf/fscanf. It's generally recognized as being unsafe (like C/C++ in general!).
Re: Modem doesn't respond
I had the same problem. It turned out I was trying to use a "Win" modem which is apparently generally not supported in Linux My problem went away when I installed a second USR "non-Win" modem. While I still have some configuring to do, it's clear I now get dial tone and dial out to my provider Check the model of your modem for the telltale "win" nomenclature David - Original Message - From: Pee To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 9:05 PM Subject: Modem doesn't respond I have an internal 56k v90 USRobotic fax modem connected in Windows to COM2 and in Linux to ttyS1. It is working in Windows, but in Linux I always get a message saying that the modem does not respond. Do you know how to solve this problem? I tried on RedHat 6.1, Corel Linux, and Debian 2.1 and I always get the same message. TIA - Pee
K6 Optimized Debian Binaries
I have compiled some of recent 'frozen' sources optimized for K6 with PGCC. Anyone is welcome to get 'em. FTP to cg619985-a.adubn.nj.home.com or 24.11.49.110. I would not use them on important or production machines since some stuff might break with compiler options like -malign-double. Use at your own risk, though have been stable for me. Enlightenment seems speedier, and so should be others. -- Get the truth or risk frying your brains! -- www.truthinlabeling.org --
Re: kernel 2.2.14, can't locate module
Re:Hi! Check the file /etc/modules and remove the entries the bootprocess complains about... Martin On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Michael Symalla wrote: Hi! I just tried to update my kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.14. Compiling, mpkg and dpkg worked fine, but when I try to boot the new kernel it always claims that it can't locate some modules. The funny thing is, that he misses modules (like 3c59x for my network adapter) which I have definitly NOT compiled as a module! Even if I compile the kernel without modules at all, the same story happens. After installation of the kernel there exists a /lib/modules/2.2.14/ directory with the modules I want in it. Can anyone help me to solve this problem, I have really no ideas what to do anymore. Thanks a lot in advance. -- This is Linux Country. In a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot. For public PGP-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: silencing modem
Brad == Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad So, you'd change something like this: Brad # modeminit Brad '' 'ATZ' Brad to Brad # modeminit Brad '' 'ATZ M0' Perhaps I am wrong, but I always thought that anything after the Z in ATZ (reset modem) was ignored... -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xscreensaver
Ron == Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ron When I setup xscreensaver from gnome control center it works Ron fine. Doing a ps ux shows it was called like so Ron xscreensaver -no-splash -timeout 15 -nice 20 -lock-mode -xrm Ron *programs:?flag -ncolors 256 -cycles 3000 -size 1 Ron -root. However, when I try to put this in ~/.Xclients it Ron complains about *programs:?flag, -ncolors, -cycles, -size, Ron and -root not being known. How can I get it so that when I Ron login (xdm) xscreensaver is started automatically without Ron having to go into gnome control center each time? Yes I RTFM Ron for xscreensaver, but it didn't tell me much. I use gdm and this happens automatically... -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network config and domain name ?
Hi everyone, Could someone please tell me if there is a tool in Debian to configure the permanent network parameters other than changing them temporarily with ifconfig or hacking /etc/init.d/network? Slackware has 'netconfig', is there a similar tool in Debian? Also does anyone know how the machine knows it's domain name, not the FQDN, just the domain name. i.e. if hostname returns 'skeletor' where does the 'powinv.co.uk' come from? Is it from resolv.conf via the DNS or is the domain name stored somewhere on the box? Finally is there a script that you can run like the install script to allow you to change the installed network card to a different manufacturer or do you just hack /etc/modules. I am running both 'slink' and 'potato' boxes. I believe the modules config changed from 'slink' to 'potato'. Sorry about such a long post... Regards JohnG _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ John Gould _/ _/ Senior Systems Support Engineer _/ _/ Power Innovations Limited _/ _/ Manton Lane, Bedford. MK41 7BJ, England _/ _/ PGP - Public key available _/ _/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ Tel: +44 1234 223002 Fax: +44 1234 223000_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
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Re: silencing modem
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 08:40:03PM +1100, Brian May wrote Brad == Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad So, you'd change something like this: Brad # modeminit Brad '' 'ATZ' Brad to Brad # modeminit Brad '' 'ATZ M0' Perhaps I am wrong, but I always thought that anything after the Z in ATZ (reset modem) was ignored... That's the way Hayes did it, but it depends on the modem; it's not something you should rely on one way or another. That's why I put it in the dial string. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
w3m
Hi, I love everything about w3m. But I am just having one little problem. Is it possible to bind ABORT with the key ZZ?? How can I do that?? Thanks. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: Modem doesn't respond
Consult the Modem_HOWTO. Perhaps it is a plug-n-play modem? Maybee it is a modem that is likely not to be able to work under Linux? ---BeginMessage--- I have an internal 56k v90 USRobotic fax modem connected in Windows to COM2 and in Linux to ttyS1. It is working in Windows, but in Linux I always get a message saying that the modem does not respond. Do you know how to solve this problem? I tried on RedHat 6.1, Corel Linux, and Debian 2.1 and I always get the same message. TIA - Pee ---End Message--- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] An elephant is a mouse with an operating system.
Apt-get through proxy
How do I instruct apt-get to use a proxy server instead of directly contacting the host? Thanks Radim
Re: Installation problem
You can do 4 things: 1) Compile a kernel with ppp (see kernel-HOWTO) 2) Do: insmod ppp 3) Do: modprobe ppp 4) Do: modconf (and then add the ppp module) Ron On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, kanupriya wrote: Hi All i am trying to install Debian Linux on my intel m/c. I could not set up the PPP options correctly. Everytime i try to connect using pppconfig, i get the following message: The system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because the PPP kernel module is not loaded or because the kernel is not configured for PPP. Sea the README.linux file in ppp-2.3.5 distribution. Kindly advice what should i do. I am a newbie to Linux. Any help would be appreciated. thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Athalong install of slink?
You should use the tecra kernel (resc1440-tecra.bin) to boot or if you're using the cd, just use cd 2 (scsi-mod) and everything should work fine. Ron On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Robert L. Harris wrote: A friend of mine is interested in converting from cladera to Debian. He's running an Athalon processor and I've heard there are problems with older kernels and Athalon's. Is there going to be any known problems with the kernel that comes in slink? Robert :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting. | definitely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: kernel 2.2.14, can't locate module
Check your /etc/init.d/modutils, during installation you selected some modules to be loaded into your kernel at boot time, when upgrading to a new kernel, such a file isn't changed, so it's looking in /lib/modules/2.2.14 for modules that are now in your not a module but right in the kernel. Easy way to solve it is (if there is no need to load any modules at booting time) to rename the file /etc/init.d/modutils to something like /etc/init.d/no-modutils Ron On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Michael Symalla wrote: Hi! I just tried to update my kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.14. Compiling, mpkg and dpkg worked fine, but when I try to boot the new kernel it always claims that it can't locate some modules. The funny thing is, that he misses modules (like 3c59x for my network adapter) which I have definitly NOT compiled as a module! Even if I compile the kernel without modules at all, the same story happens. After installation of the kernel there exists a /lib/modules/2.2.14/ directory with the modules I want in it. Can anyone help me to solve this problem, I have really no ideas what to do anymore. Thanks a lot in advance. -- Bye Mitch. --- / Michael Symalla(Uni-Dortmund Physik E5) \ / DESY HERA-B Bldg.66/1 office phone: 040/8998 4985 \ / Notkestr.85Fax.: 040/8998 4033 \ / D-22607 Hamburgprivate phone: 040/5000857 \ / PGP Key on keyservers or via mail: Subject: send pgp \ --- c:\winnt secure_nt.exe Securing NT. Insert Linux boot disk to continue...
Re: Network config and domain name ?
Second question: Use modconf First question: I actually don't know (I always just edit /etc/init.d/network) but you could start the installation again and only configure the network and skip the rest, there might be a easier but... Ron On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, John Gould wrote: Hi everyone, Could someone please tell me if there is a tool in Debian to configure the permanent network parameters other than changing them temporarily with ifconfig or hacking /etc/init.d/network? Slackware has 'netconfig', is there a similar tool in Debian? Also does anyone know how the machine knows it's domain name, not the FQDN, just the domain name. i.e. if hostname returns 'skeletor' where does the 'powinv.co.uk' come from? Is it from resolv.conf via the DNS or is the domain name stored somewhere on the box? Finally is there a script that you can run like the install script to allow you to change the installed network card to a different manufacturer or do you just hack /etc/modules. I am running both 'slink' and 'potato' boxes. I believe the modules config changed from 'slink' to 'potato'. Sorry about such a long post... Regards JohnG _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ John Gould _/ _/ Senior Systems Support Engineer _/ _/ Power Innovations Limited _/ _/ Manton Lane, Bedford. MK41 7BJ, England _/ _/ PGP - Public key available _/ _/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ Tel: +44 1234 223002 Fax: +44 1234 223000_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: second try, defunct processes
* Ben Collins said: [snip] by using waitpid or wait4) the child process will go zombie (defunct). If the application is coded properly and it still happens, it might mean that the kernel fails to deliver the SIGCHLD signal to the parent for some reason. It might be caused by the kernel compiled with 2.95.x gcc. Generally, it's safer to use gcc 2.7.2.3 to compile your kernels. That would be true except this is sparc, and 2.7.2.3 can create some buggy code for sparcs. I don't know much about sparcs Linux, I just remember having a similar problem on x86 with a kernel compiled using 2.95.1 (AFAIR) that optimized the kernel code so much, it failed to deliver some signals. Situation was pretty much the same. marek pgpD0Dx4o7lhg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sound ES1371 issues
Not that I'm an expert on sound, but maybe some of this will help you to make a comparison to your situation. I have an ES1370 card (Sound Blaster PCI64), and as far as compiling the kernel is concerned, all I needed to enable were two things; overall sound support and my specific PCI card. From my .config file: (kernel = 2.2.14) # Sound # CONFIG_SOUND=y # CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI is not set CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370=y # CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370_JOYPORT_BOOT is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371 is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_ESSSOLO1 is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_OSS is not set So all you should need would be overall sound and the ES1371. With PCI cards, there is no need to specify DMA, IRQ etc. I compiled directly into the kernel as opposed to modules, but modules should work just as well as long as they're loaded (check that with lsmod). In /proc/pci I have this: Bus 0, device 10, function 0: Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq AudioPCI (rev 0). Slow devsel. IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=12. Max Lat=128. I/O at 0x6800 [0x6801]. The output from 'lspci -vv' : 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] Subsystem: Unknown device 4942:4c4c Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- Latency: 12 min, 128 max, 64 set Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 5 Region 0: I/O ports at 6800 If you're using modules, you won't see any kernel messages on boot unless those modules are listed in /etc/modules, so that they're loaded automatically on boot. With support compiled into the kernel, I get this message from the kernel when booting: es1370: version v0.30 time 19:57:12 Jan 7 2000 es1370: found adapter at io 0x6800 irq 5 es1370: features: joystick off, line in, mic impedance 0 Tom Kent West wrote: I've been trying off-and-on for months to get sound working on this box. The Readme's and HOWTOs and Dogpile searches just aren't answering my questions. I've got an ES1371 (Audio PCI 97) sound card (from Gateway Computers in an E-4200 box). First Question: When running make menuconfig, I go into the Sound entry and then press m on Sound Card Support to make it a module. This expands into several other options: Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1370) Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI 97 (ES1371) S3 Sonic Vibes Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Classic, Tahiti, Monterey Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Pinnacle, Fiji OSS Sound Modules Having read that some es1371 boards are actually es1370s, I selected both Ensoniq and marked them with an m to make them modules. I don't really understand the difference between the OSS Sound Modules and the others above that. I kindda thought that all the sound drivers in the kernel were OSS drivers, but this leads me to think that there are two types: the ones that are not OSS, and the ones that are. Anyway, if I M the OSS Sound Modules entry, I see that the 100% Sound Blaster Compatibles includes ESS, and I wonder if this is necessary for support of my card. Even though my card is an ES and not an ESS, I still have my suspicions. So my first question: Do I just need the ES1371, or do I need the ES1371 and the ES1370, or do I need the ES1371, the ES1370, and the OSS with 100% SB Compatible, or do I need some other combination? Second question: I'm assuming that I can install this/these drivers as modules rather than compiling them directly into the kernel. Is that a correct assumption? Okay, having compiled the ES1370 and ES1371 drivers in as modules, and having done a make dep, make clean, make bzImage, make modules, and make modules_install, and having copied the arch/i386/bzImage file to /boot/vmlinuz and modifying my lilo.conf file as necessary and re-running lilo and rebooting, I'm supposed to see (according to what I've read) references to the sound card fly by at boot time. Yet I don't see such a thing. Furthermore, according to the HOWTOs, etc, I'm supposed to be able to do a cat /dev/sndstat, yet that returns a No such device error. The /dev/sndstat file does exist. I suspect the problem is IRQ,DMA,IOport-related, but the HOWTOs seem to focus on ISA PnP cards rather than PCI, so I'm a little confused. I have learned enough to run lspci -v which returns quite a bit of info on various cards (ethernet, ISA bridge, etc); it also has the following: 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 1371 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 96, IRQ 11 I/O ports at 1080 Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 When I try to play sounds (using sox or splay, etc, or
Re: Network config and domain name ?
apt-get install linuxconf that's the package that contains netconf and all those other nifty tools that come with redhat flavours. -Original Message- From: Ron Rademaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Network config and domain name ? Second question: Use modconf First question: I actually don't know (I always just edit /etc/init.d/network) but you could start the installation again and only configure the network and skip the rest, there might be a easier but... Ron On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, John Gould wrote: Hi everyone, Could someone please tell me if there is a tool in Debian to configure the permanent network parameters other than changing them temporarily with ifconfig or hacking /etc/init.d/network? Slackware has 'netconfig', is there a similar tool in Debian? Also does anyone know how the machine knows it's domain name, not the FQDN, just the domain name. i.e. if hostname returns 'skeletor' where does the 'powinv.co.uk' come from? Is it from resolv.conf via the DNS or is the domain name stored somewhere on the box? Finally is there a script that you can run like the install script to allow you to change the installed network card to a different manufacturer or do you just hack /etc/modules. I am running both 'slink' and 'potato' boxes. I believe the modules config changed from 'slink' to 'potato'. Sorry about such a long post... Regards JohnG _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ John Gould _/ _/ Senior Systems Support Engineer _/ _/ Power Innovations Limited _/ _/ Manton Lane, Bedford. MK41 7BJ, England _/ _/ PGP - Public key available _/ _/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ Tel: +44 1234 223002 Fax: +44 1234 223000_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Installation problem
kanupriya wrote: The system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because the PPP kernel module is not loaded or because the kernel is not configured for PPP. Sea the README.linux file in ppp-2.3.5 distribution. Did you, by any chance, install the Debian CD that came with McCarty's book? I wonder because I did, and I get the same error when I run pon. This happened with two installs, first with the Dialup (!) package and secondly with a manual selection of stuff. I've decided to blame the CD, since gobs of gurus have been unable to get me online with Debian. A suggestion to recompile the kernel before you can get online with a distribution seems extreme, if you don't mind my saying so. I'm planning to get Debian from another source and try it. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Getting where I want to be with Corel Linux
Re: Installation problem
Recompiling your kernel is not an extreme thing to do, it is actually very easy (if of course you know how, which is explained very good in the kernel-HOWTO). I think it is also wise to compile a new kernel after installation, because the standard kernel is a kernel that works with most computers, and if you compile your own you can optimize it for your computer (that is select the right processor, leaving hardware support for hardware you don't own out and such things), which makes the kernel smaller (more memory left for other things) and faster. Ron On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Lane Lester wrote: kanupriya wrote: The system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because the PPP kernel module is not loaded or because the kernel is not configured for PPP. Sea the README.linux file in ppp-2.3.5 distribution. Did you, by any chance, install the Debian CD that came with McCarty's book? I wonder because I did, and I get the same error when I run pon. This happened with two installs, first with the Dialup (!) package and secondly with a manual selection of stuff. I've decided to blame the CD, since gobs of gurus have been unable to get me online with Debian. A suggestion to recompile the kernel before you can get online with a distribution seems extreme, if you don't mind my saying so. I'm planning to get Debian from another source and try it. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Getting where I want to be with Corel Linux -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Samba upgrade, password issue
I have just upgraded my Samba to a 2.0.4 stable version. The old one must have been running for a year or two, not sure which version it was. At first I panicked because al my passwords refused to work. After some RTFM I learned that Samba now holds a seperate password file smbpasswd. It used to grap passwords from the general passwd list. As far as I can see I now need to manage two seperate lists. This seems to be a bit of a downgrade, or am I missing something? -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.2.14, can't locate module
Hi Martin, I did it that way and now he not longer complains about missing modules, great! But now my 3com network adapter (which is included in the kernel) is not longer initialized, so no eth0 ;-) with 2.0.36 this was a module and everything worked fine, but how do start the network adapter now? An easy solution might be to compile it also as a module, but there must be another way, or am I wrong? On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 11:31:58AM +0200, Martin Fluch wrote: Check the file /etc/modules and remove the entries the bootprocess complains about... -- Bye Mitch. --- / Michael Symalla(Uni-Dortmund Physik E5) \ / DESY HERA-B Bldg.66/1 office phone: 040/8998 4985 \ / Notkestr.85Fax.: 040/8998 4033 \ / D-22607 Hamburgprivate phone: 040/5000857 \ / PGP Key on keyservers or via mail: Subject: send pgp \ --- c:\winnt secure_nt.exe Securing NT. Insert Linux boot disk to continue...
Will potato X-serve my Intel 810e graphics chipset?
Hi there. I have a Dell Dimension L500r system. The video driver is built into the motherboard. I can obtain the following info from Windows 98: Video driver: Intel 810e Chipset Graphics Driver (DCC133 FSB133) 4.11.01.1361 Hardware version 003 4 MB video RAM I dunno about RAMDAC or clock issues for this driver. It is capable of 1280x1024 24-bit graphics, but the MX780 monitor can handle just 1024x768 maximum. The monitor very conveniently displays all the resolution modes on screen when you push the menu buttons under the display, so I have the Vertical Horizontal sync rate ranges. What I don't seem to have from my Debian 2.1 CD, is an X server that can handle this chipset. I have Debian installed, but I can't get X Windows to run. SuperProbe came up empty when it probed my system for specs on the graphics driver. I am hoping to find out if potato will include an X server for this chipset. If not, where could one be found? Thanks!
Re: Samba upgrade, password issue
Well, it's not really a downgrade (but I understand you think so), because now samba allows you to have different passwords for samba and shell. There is a program that converts all the passwords from /etc/passwd to smbpasswd, I can't remember the name. I always use smbpasswd -a USER (as root) to give anybody who needs access to samba, they can then later change it with smbpasswd. (The -a options says that if the user is not in smbpasswd smbpasswd has to add the user). Ron On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Erik van der Meulen wrote: I have just upgraded my Samba to a 2.0.4 stable version. The old one must have been running for a year or two, not sure which version it was. At first I panicked because al my passwords refused to work. After some RTFM I learned that Samba now holds a seperate password file smbpasswd. It used to grap passwords from the general passwd list. As far as I can see I now need to manage two seperate lists. This seems to be a bit of a downgrade, or am I missing something? -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Will potato X-serve my Intel 810e graphics chipset?
I don't know for your Intel 810e graphics chipset, but potato does support a lot more graphical cards than slink. For example my card (Viper 770) wasn't supported in slink but it was supported in potato, same goes for the ASUS AGP-V3800Magic, I think you'll have a pretty good chance yours will work. Ron On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, David Bush wrote: Hi there. I have a Dell Dimension L500r system. The video driver is built into the motherboard. I can obtain the following info from Windows 98: Video driver: Intel 810e Chipset Graphics Driver (DCC133 FSB133) 4.11.01.1361 Hardware version 003 4 MB video RAM I dunno about RAMDAC or clock issues for this driver. It is capable of 1280x1024 24-bit graphics, but the MX780 monitor can handle just 1024x768 maximum. The monitor very conveniently displays all the resolution modes on screen when you push the menu buttons under the display, so I have the Vertical Horizontal sync rate ranges. What I don't seem to have from my Debian 2.1 CD, is an X server that can handle this chipset. I have Debian installed, but I can't get X Windows to run. SuperProbe came up empty when it probed my system for specs on the graphics driver. I am hoping to find out if potato will include an X server for this chipset. If not, where could one be found? Thanks! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Samba upgrade, password issue
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ron Rademaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's not really a downgrade (but I understand you think so), because now samba allows you to have different passwords for samba and shell. That's not the reason - the reason is that windows encrypted passwords are not compatible with Unix hashed passwords as in /etc/passwd. It will work if your windows installation has encrypted passwords turned off (for Win98 and 2000, you need to change some obscure registry entry). There is a program that converts all the passwords from /etc/passwd to smbpasswd, I can't remember the name. That's because such a program cannot exist. Passwords in /etc/passwd are one-way encrypted (hashed really) and you cannot decode them in any way. I always use smbpasswd -a USER (as root) to give anybody who needs access to samba, they can then later change it with smbpasswd. (The -a options says that if the user is not in smbpasswd smbpasswd has to add the user). If you have win3.1 or 95 clients (or 98/2000 with the registry fixed) and you turn off the encrypt passwords parameter in smb.conf samba will use /etc/passwd to authenticate. Mike. -- The From: and Reply-To: addresses are internal news2mail gateway addresses. Reply to the list or to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
Re: kernel 2.2.14, can't locate module
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Ron Rademaker wrote: Check your /etc/init.d/modutils, during installation you selected some modules to be loaded into your kernel at boot time, when upgrading to a new kernel, such a file isn't changed, so it's looking in /lib/modules/2.2.14 for modules that are now in your not a module but right in the kernel. Easy way to solve it is (if there is no need to load any modules at booting time) to rename the file /etc/init.d/modutils to something like /etc/init.d/no-modutils This is better done by removing the symbolic link in /etc/rcS.d pointing to /etc/init.d/modutils. Martin -- This is Linux Country. In a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot. For public PGP-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS as module - how?
Hi, I would like to add NFS support to my Slink system. What alias do I have to add to /etc/modutils/aliases to use the nfs.o module? (I tried a few I thought of but they did not work.) Or do I have to recompile the kernel, adding nfs support that way? Thanks in advance. ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com
Linuxconf in potato broken?
I get a segfault whenever I quit linuxconf (version 1.17r1-1). Is this a known problem waiting for a fix? Or is it something particular to my system? Cheers, Derk Groeneveld -- The From: and Reply-To: addresses are internal news2mail gateway addresses. Reply to the list or to F.P. Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apt-get through proxy
I have 3 machines behind a very slow modem. I just put a squid proxy server up. Once that was running I set these three lines in my profile: ftp_proxy=http://proxy.rnd-consulting.com:3128 http_proxy=http://proxy.rnd-consulting.com:3128 gopher_proxy=http://proxy.rnd-consulting.com:3128 And now it appears to be using it nicely. Robert Thus spake Radim Gelner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): How do I instruct apt-get to use a proxy server instead of directly contacting the host? Thanks Radim -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| definitely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: wordperfect8
Is there a .deb package for wp8 I can get with apt-get? Robert Thus spake paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): debs, i installed corel wp8 in my slink box. trying to run the app (wp8), i get this error message: ./xwp: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4' (which doesn't appear to exist in/as a deb package). ...suggestions? apt-get xpm4g This should work. library names can get quite infuriating ;-) -ptw -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| definitely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: second try, defunct processes
Well, I tried 2.7.2, and although it seemed to last a little longer, this morning I wake up, and it didn't help. Any other ideas? Would wiping the system clean and trying again help? -Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grendel wrote: * Ben Collins said: [snip] by using waitpid or wait4) the child process will go zombie (defunct). If the application is coded properly and it still happens, it might mean that the kernel fails to deliver the SIGCHLD signal to the parent for some reason. It might be caused by the kernel compiled with 2.95.x gcc. Generally, it's safer to use gcc 2.7.2.3 to compile your kernels. That would be true except this is sparc, and 2.7.2.3 can create some buggy code for sparcs. I don't know much about sparcs Linux, I just remember having a similar problem on x86 with a kernel compiled using 2.95.1 (AFAIR) that optimized the kernel code so much, it failed to deliver some signals. Situation was pretty much the same. marek Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: Samba upgrade, password issue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ron Rademaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a program that converts all the passwords from /etc/passwd to smbpasswd, I can't remember the name. That's because such a program cannot exist. Passwords in /etc/passwd are one-way encrypted (hashed really) and you cannot decode them in any way. Hmm, true, but there is a program that sets up an smbpasswd file with all the users contained in /etc/passwd that I think may have been what he meant? (I think it's mksmbpasswd.sh ...) Lee. -- I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ... For some reason my mom insists on calling it Playing with blocks
Re: Sound ES1371 issues
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... I've been trying off-and-on for months to get sound working on this box. The Readme's and HOWTOs and Dogpile searches just aren't answering my questions. I've got an ES1371 (Audio PCI 97) sound card (from Gateway Computers in an E-4200 box). First Question: When running make menuconfig, I go into the Sound entry and then press m on Sound Card Support to make it a module. This expands into several other options: Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1370) Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI 97 (ES1371) S3 Sonic Vibes Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Classic, Tahiti, Monterey Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Pinnacle, Fiji OSS Sound Modules Having read that some es1371 boards are actually es1370s, I selected both Ensoniq and marked them with an m to make them modules. Ok. I don't really understand the difference between the OSS Sound Modules and the others above that. I kindda thought that all the sound drivers in the kernel were OSS drivers, but this leads me to think that there are two types: the ones that are not OSS, and the ones that are. Technically they're all OSS drivers - they all support the same programming interfaces. The 'OSS Sound Modules' are what used to be known as OSS/Lite - a freely available version of the Open Sound System drivers, which are payware and available for many Unix (and Unix-like) operating systems. Anyway, if I M the OSS Sound Modules entry, I see that the 100% Sound Blaster Compatibles includes ESS, and I wonder if this is necessary for support of my card. Even though my card is an ES and not an ESS, I still have my suspicions. You don't need anything under the OSS Sound Modules. So my first question: Do I just need the ES1371, or do I need the ES1371 and the ES1370, or do I need the ES1371, the ES1370, and the OSS with 100% SB Compatible, or do I need some other combination? You need es1371 (based on your output from lspci below) and nothing else. Second question: I'm assuming that I can install this/these drivers as modules rather than compiling them directly into the kernel. Is that a correct assumption? That's correct. Okay, having compiled the ES1370 and ES1371 drivers in as modules, and having done a make dep, make clean, make bzImage, make modules, and make modules_install, and having copied the arch/i386/bzImage file to /boot/vmlinuz and modifying my lilo.conf file as necessary and re-running lilo and rebooting, I'm supposed to see (according to what I've read) references to the sound card fly by at boot time. Ok. Yet I don't see such a thing. Furthermore, according to the HOWTOs, etc, I'm supposed to be able to do a cat /dev/sndstat, yet that returns a No such device error. The /dev/sndstat file does exist. Did you edit /etc/modules to load the sound driver at boot time? Unfortunately Debian's 'PnP' isn't as smart as RedHat's. I suspect the problem is IRQ,DMA,IOport-related, but the HOWTOs seem to focus on ISA PnP cards rather than PCI, so I'm a little confused. I have learned enough to run lspci -v which returns quite a bit of info on various cards (ethernet, ISA bridge, etc); it also has the following: 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 1371 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 96, IRQ 11 I/O ports at 1080 Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 You don't need to worry about IRQs and what not - this is a PCI sound card - the BIOS takes care of all that at boot time. When I try to play sounds (using sox or splay, etc, or saytime), I sometimes get garbled sound, but more often than not, messages like no such output file or no such device, etc. Hopefully someone can help me figure out where to go from here. A quick summary: * Run 'modprobe es1371' * Try to play a sound file - I like to use the package sox for that; it works better than cat'ing the file to /dev/dsp. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Re: kernel 2.2.14, can't locate module
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Michael Symalla wrote: Hi Martin, I did it that way and now he not longer complains about missing modules, great! But now my 3com network adapter (which is included in the kernel) is not longer initialized, so no eth0 ;-) with 2.0.36 this was a module and everything worked fine, but how do start the network adapter now? An easy solution might be to compile it also as a module, but there must be another way, or am I wrong? Hmmm I'm not an expert on configuring network cards :( Perhaps your ethernet card needs some parameters. Perhaps you can remember how the module was configured, perhaps you find some information in the files stored in /etc/modutils/. When your ethernet driver needs some parameters, you have to fiedle around with the append command in /etc/lilo.conf (see manpage) and add some bootparameters (man bootparam, search for the section 'ETHERNET DEVICES'). A look in the Ethernet-HowTo might help, too. I hope, that this helps ... at least somehow :) Martin -- This is Linux Country. In a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot. For public PGP-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: second try, defunct processes
* Aaron Solochek said: Well, I tried 2.7.2, and although it seemed to last a little longer, this morning I wake up, and it didn't help. Any other ideas? Would wiping the system clean and trying again help? I don't think so. I think you should follow Ben Collins' advice to upgrade the kernel. But, from what you say, it seems that the compiler is somehow related to your problem. Try to get the latest kernel from vger and compile two binaries - one with 2.95.x and another with 2.7.2.3 (mind the .3!) - give it a test, and we'll see :) marek pgpFB02mtXw7z.pgp Description: PGP signature
using power save and power down features
When using windows my computer move the screen automaticly to standby mode to save power after a certain time ( a bit after the screen save starts), and when I shut down it turns the computer of automaticly. Is it posible to perform these using linux? ( I am using potato, currently 2.2.9) Thanx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xemacs problem
When I change the options in xemacs ( 21 latest ) to enable multiple windows, and I try to compile or move to errors in the compilation, I get the folowing error message: wrong type argument : windowp, nil any ideas? Thanx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
potato installation problem
I've been trying to install potato from a hard drive. I've downloaded the the entire /dists/frozen/main/binary-i386 tree and the /dists/frozen/main/source/base directory. Install of the base system goes fine. But when its time to specify the location of the debian mirror, I point it at /mnt/hdc1 (the hard drive I have the debian tree on) and it gives me an error: When I tried to access the debian archive using the information you provided, apt gave the following error. I will run through the question again, try to correct the error. E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with merge list /var/state/apt/lists/_mnt_hdc1_dists_frozen_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. The file _mnt_hdc1_dists_frozen_main_binary-i386_Packages does exist and it looks to the untrained eye to contain package information. I'd greatly appreciate some help getting potato installed. An ftp install isn't an option for me. I've got a slow (56k) connection and my free provider (www.freewwweb.com) has a six hour time limit on connections. regards, lee
Re: using power save and power down features
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 04:26:55PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: When using windows my computer move the screen automaticly to standby mode to save power after a certain time ( a bit after the screen save starts), and when I shut down it turns the computer of automaticly. Is it posible to perform these using linux? ( I am using potato, currently 2.2.9) Here's the beginning of my .xsession file: # set power saving modes xset dpms 1800 2100 2200 # set screen locking xautolock -time 30 -locker xlock -mode blank \ -corners 00+0 -cornerdelay 2 -cornerredelay 5 -cornersize 10 It's set for 1800 (30 minutes) because that is what the monitor docs recommended as the minimum time between degaussing. The monitor degauses when it powers up. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please help, I'm desperate (SAMBA)
It doesn't matter what I try, what smb.conf I dream up or what I put into the win 95 configs: I can't get roaming profiles to work. I tried increasing the debug level but all I got was over 500k of crap and as far as I can understand it most things are for developers! PLEASE HELP ME! My setup: - Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (Potato/frozen) - Samba 2.0.6-3 (running as daemon) - Windows 95 (dutch) What does work: - logons (mandatory) - the netlogon share and the config.pol (partly?) - the logon script - browsing the shares - home directory share But I can get those @#$%^ roaming profiles working! I've tried to delete the local profile, remove the pwl file and even removed the user from the registry! But no sir! Now I'm desperate, I need help BAD! Maybe somebody has roaming profiles working and would be so nice to send me the following files: - smb.conf - netlogon script - config.pol - registry - ??? Thanks in advance, Onno
Re: using power save and power down features
Yes, You need to compile a kernel with apm support. It's in the 2.2 series kernels, just run make config etc. Regards JohnG _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ John Gould _/ _/ Senior Systems Support Engineer _/ _/ Power Innovations Limited _/ _/ Manton Lane, Bedford. MK41 7BJ, England _/ _/ PGP - Public key available _/ _/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ Tel: +44 1234 223002 Fax: +44 1234 223000_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Micha Feigin wrote: When using windows my computer move the screen automaticly to standby mode to save power after a certain time ( a bit after the screen save starts), and when I shut down it turns the computer of automaticly. Is it posible to perform these using linux? ( I am using potato, currently 2.2.9) Thanx [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Sound ES1371 issues
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 08:17:36AM -0600, Phil Brutsche wrote: You need es1371 (based on your output from lspci below) and nothing else. * Run 'modprobe es1371' * Try to play a sound file - I like to use the package sox for that; it works better than cat'ing the file to /dev/dsp. You might want do a '/dev/MAKEDEV update' to update your devices to the new kernel. Also you might want to add something like this to /etc/modutils/aliases alias char-major-14 soundcore # basic sound capabilities alias sound-slot-0 es1371 # main sound card hardware driver alias sound-service-0-0 sound # mixer taken care of by sound.o alias sound-service-0-3 sound # /dev/dsp /dev/audio support in sound.o alias sound-service-0-6 sound # /dev/sndstat support in sound.o and remember to run update-modules afterwards. You will now be able to access /dev/dsp as root. Twaek the rights for the audio-devices so that you can use them as user. Hope that could help you. -- Sven Esbjerg
Re: Please help, I'm desperate (SAMBA)
can samba even do roaming profiles? (im not even sure what roaming profiles are) i didn't see any mention of it in the FAQ. after looking at the PROFILES.txt from samba looks like that may be what you want. If you still can't get it working upgrade to samba 3.0 (alpha) i spent hours trying to fix a dissapearing file/directory problem on 2.0 and it was fixed the instant i upgraded to 3.0 samba 3.0 has been very stable for me i haven't had any problems but all im doing is basic filesharing. you can get 3.0 by following the directions here: http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/ntdom_faq/page2.html nate On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Onno wrote: Onno Onno It doesn't matter what I try, what smb.conf I dream up or Onno what I put into the win 95 configs: I can't get roaming Onno profiles to work. I tried increasing the debug level but Onno all I got was over 500k of crap and as far as I can understand Onno it most things are for developers! Onno Onno PLEASE HELP ME! Onno Onno My setup: Onno Onno - Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (Potato/frozen) Onno - Samba 2.0.6-3 (running as daemon) Onno - Windows 95 (dutch) Onno Onno What does work: Onno Onno - logons (mandatory) Onno - the netlogon share and the config.pol (partly?) Onno - the logon script Onno - browsing the shares Onno - home directory share Onno Onno But I can get those @#$%^ roaming profiles working! Onno I've tried to delete the local profile, remove the pwl file Onno and even removed the user from the registry! But no sir! Onno Onno Now I'm desperate, I need help BAD! Onno Onno Maybe somebody has roaming profiles working and would be Onno so nice to send me the following files: Onno Onno - smb.conf Onno - netlogon script Onno - config.pol Onno - registry Onno - ??? Onno Onno Thanks in advance, Onno Onno Onno Onno Onno Onno Onno -- Onno Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Onno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:30am up 180 days, 19:47, 1 user, load average: 1.23, 1.10, 1.04
Re: Modem doesn't respond
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Re: Sound ES1371 issues
Thanks for the response. My .config file looks pretty much like yours (kernel 2.2.9): CONFIG_SOUND=m CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370=m CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371=m # CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_OSS is not set Doing a cat /proc/pci results in: cat: /proc/pci: No such file or directory The output from lspci -vv: 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 1371 Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow TAbort- TAbort+ MAbort- SERR- PERR- Latency: 12 min, 128 max, 96 set Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11 Region 0: I/O ports at 1080 Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 Flags: PMEClk- AuxPwr+ DSI+ D1- D2+ PME+ Status: D3 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- The output from lsmod: Module Size Used by es1371 22632 0 (unused) soundcore 2564 4 [es1371] vmnet 16160 2 vmmon 17664 1 3c59x 18912 1 vfat 11452 0 (unused) fat24832 0 [vfat] smbfs 26988 3 nfs30784 0 (unused) lockd 32008 0 [nfs] sunrpc 53732 0 [nfs lockd] Again, thanks for any help! Tom Pfeifer wrote: Not that I'm an expert on sound, but maybe some of this will help you to make a comparison to your situation. I have an ES1370 card (Sound Blaster PCI64), and as far as compiling the kernel is concerned, all I needed to enable were two things; overall sound support and my specific PCI card. From my .config file: (kernel = 2.2.14) # Sound # CONFIG_SOUND=y # CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI is not set CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370=y # CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370_JOYPORT_BOOT is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371 is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_ESSSOLO1 is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_OSS is not set So all you should need would be overall sound and the ES1371. With PCI cards, there is no need to specify DMA, IRQ etc. I compiled directly into the kernel as opposed to modules, but modules should work just as well as long as they're loaded (check that with lsmod). In /proc/pci I have this: Bus 0, device 10, function 0: Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq AudioPCI (rev 0). Slow devsel. IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=12. Max Lat=128. I/O at 0x6800 [0x6801]. The output from 'lspci -vv' : 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] Subsystem: Unknown device 4942:4c4c Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- Latency: 12 min, 128 max, 64 set Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 5 Region 0: I/O ports at 6800 If you're using modules, you won't see any kernel messages on boot unless those modules are listed in /etc/modules, so that they're loaded automatically on boot. With support compiled into the kernel, I get this message from the kernel when booting: es1370: version v0.30 time 19:57:12 Jan 7 2000 es1370: found adapter at io 0x6800 irq 5 es1370: features: joystick off, line in, mic impedance 0 Tom Kent West wrote: I've been trying off-and-on for months to get sound working on this box. The Readme's and HOWTOs and Dogpile searches just aren't answering my questions. I've got an ES1371 (Audio PCI 97) sound card (from Gateway Computers in an E-4200 box). First Question: When running make menuconfig, I go into the Sound entry and then press m on Sound Card Support to make it a module. This expands into several other options: Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1370) Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI 97 (ES1371) S3 Sonic Vibes Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Classic, Tahiti, Monterey Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Pinnacle, Fiji OSS Sound Modules Having read that some es1371 boards are actually es1370s, I selected both Ensoniq and marked them with an m to make them modules. I don't really understand the difference between the OSS Sound Modules and the others above that. I kindda thought that all the sound drivers in the kernel were OSS drivers, but this leads me to think that there are two types: the ones that are not OSS, and the ones that are. Anyway, if I M the OSS Sound Modules entry, I see that the 100% Sound Blaster Compatibles includes ESS, and I wonder if this is necessary for support of my card. Even though my card is an ES and not an ESS, I still have my suspicions. So my first question: Do I just
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Re: Sound ES1371 issues
Phil Brutsche wrote: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... I've been trying off-and-on for months to get sound working on this box. The Readme's and HOWTOs and Dogpile searches just aren't answering my questions. I've got an ES1371 (Audio PCI 97) sound card (from Gateway Computers in an E-4200 box). First Question: When running make menuconfig, I go into the Sound entry and then press m on Sound Card Support to make it a module. This expands into several other options: Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1370) Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI 97 (ES1371) S3 Sonic Vibes Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Classic, Tahiti, Monterey Support for Turtle Beach MultiSound Pinnacle, Fiji OSS Sound Modules Having read that some es1371 boards are actually es1370s, I selected both Ensoniq and marked them with an m to make them modules. Ok. I don't really understand the difference between the OSS Sound Modules and the others above that. I kindda thought that all the sound drivers in the kernel were OSS drivers, but this leads me to think that there are two types: the ones that are not OSS, and the ones that are. Technically they're all OSS drivers - they all support the same programming interfaces. The 'OSS Sound Modules' are what used to be known as OSS/Lite - a freely available version of the Open Sound System drivers, which are payware and available for many Unix (and Unix-like) operating systems. Anyway, if I M the OSS Sound Modules entry, I see that the 100% Sound Blaster Compatibles includes ESS, and I wonder if this is necessary for support of my card. Even though my card is an ES and not an ESS, I still have my suspicions. You don't need anything under the OSS Sound Modules. So my first question: Do I just need the ES1371, or do I need the ES1371 and the ES1370, or do I need the ES1371, the ES1370, and the OSS with 100% SB Compatible, or do I need some other combination? You need es1371 (based on your output from lspci below) and nothing else. Second question: I'm assuming that I can install this/these drivers as modules rather than compiling them directly into the kernel. Is that a correct assumption? That's correct. Okay, having compiled the ES1370 and ES1371 drivers in as modules, and having done a make dep, make clean, make bzImage, make modules, and make modules_install, and having copied the arch/i386/bzImage file to /boot/vmlinuz and modifying my lilo.conf file as necessary and re-running lilo and rebooting, I'm supposed to see (according to what I've read) references to the sound card fly by at boot time. Ok. Yet I don't see such a thing. Furthermore, according to the HOWTOs, etc, I'm supposed to be able to do a cat /dev/sndstat, yet that returns a No such device error. The /dev/sndstat file does exist. Did you edit /etc/modules to load the sound driver at boot time? Unfortunately Debian's 'PnP' isn't as smart as RedHat's. I suspect the problem is IRQ,DMA,IOport-related, but the HOWTOs seem to focus on ISA PnP cards rather than PCI, so I'm a little confused. I have learned enough to run lspci -v which returns quite a bit of info on various cards (ethernet, ISA bridge, etc); it also has the following: 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 1371 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 96, IRQ 11 I/O ports at 1080 Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 You don't need to worry about IRQs and what not - this is a PCI sound card - the BIOS takes care of all that at boot time. When I try to play sounds (using sox or splay, etc, or saytime), I sometimes get garbled sound, but more often than not, messages like no such output file or no such device, etc. Hopefully someone can help me figure out where to go from here. A quick summary: * Run 'modprobe es1371' * Try to play a sound file - I like to use the package sox for that; it works better than cat'ing the file to /dev/dsp. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein I appreciate your response. Concerning the OSS/Lite drivers: So do I understand that the division of the two categories (the five or six drivers on the outer level vs the OSS category) are simply because the OSS ones came from a different source? In other words, the kernel developers developed the ES1370/1 and Turtle Beach and S3 drivers, so they left these in the outer level, but the OSS drivers came from the OSS people and so were put in a different category? OK, I can live with that; it's confusing to someone who doesn't know the history, but that's okay; Life's a classroom. The
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