RE: Scripts en varios idiomas ¿que os parece?
-Mensaje original- De: Manel Marin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Lista Debian Castellano debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: domingo 19 de marzo de 2000 17:27 Asunto: Scripts en varios idiomas ¿que os parece? [...] gnome y kde para los ejecutables utilizan /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/*.mo ¿Y para los scripts? Sacado de un mensaje de Alfredo Casademunt enviado a debian-l10n-spanish@lists.debian.org: --- inicio --- Por otra parte quisiera preguntar una cosa: ya sé como funciona el gettext para los programas realizados en C/C++, ahora bien ¿cómo habría traducir un script? ... ¡ Con el mismo gettext ! :-) Basta con sustituir todos los echo Text to translate por gettext -d PAQUETE Text to translate donde PAQUETE es el nombre del fichero .mo (generado a partir del fichero .po) que se encuentra en /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/ de los que ya hable en un mensaje anterior. Además gettext admite las mismas opciones que echo. Para ver un ejemplo mirar el i2e.sh que se encuentra en el diccionario Ingles-Español i2e sito en mi homepage Un saludo. Alfredo. --- fin De todos modos creo que el programa bug lo hace de una forma todavía más sencilla. Bájate el código fuente de potato y échale un vistazo. -- Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft
RE: ¿Paquetes para NETSCAPE?
-Mensaje original- De: Roberto Ripio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: DEBIAN debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: sábado 18 de marzo de 2000 11:25 Asunto: Re: ¿Paquetes para NETSCAPE? El Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 02:28:48PM +0100, Emilio Hernández Martín escribió: Aún no he conseguido conectarme a Internet desde Linux, pero sí que me ha aparecido a veces el mensaje ese de que no puede encontrar el servidor keyword.netscape.com. ¿Qué significa?, ¿cómo puedo cambiar ese servidor que está por defecto? No se puede cambiar, pero se puede desactivar, que es mejor. Si abres el cuadro de preferencias, en el apartado Navigator - Smart Browsing, verás las abominables opciones what's related e internet keywords. Fuera con todo y adiós problema. Aún con eso, al abrir netscape sin estar conectado, sigue quejándose de no poder conectar a home.netscape.com, home6.netscape.com, e internic.net, y eso sí que no parece haber modo de evitarlo. Me fastidia bastante usar un navegador con contador de visitas incorporado, pero no parece haber alternativa. Pon como página de inicio una página en blanco. En estos momentos no tengo instalado el netscape en linux, pero en windows está en Preferencias - Navigator - Iniciar Navigator con - Página en blanco. -- Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft
coloreo de sintaxis en EMACS
pos eso, que si algún gurú de emacs de por aqui me puede decir si el emacs soporta coloreo de sintaxis en la CONSOLA; y sí es así, como es... ta'luego -- /--\ | Miembro de LiMA (Linux Málaga) | | (güeno, más o menos) | | http://lima.telenet.es | \--/ / rebeldin es un i486 con \ | Debian LiNUX 2.2,Kernel 2.2.14 | \--/
Re: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue?
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ATI
Tengo pensado comprar una placa de video ATI RAGE FURY, alguien sabe si es buena y si es soportada por linux, en la pagina de ATI dice que apoya linux asi que supongo que no debe traer problemas. Gracias y saludos.
RE: Me temo que mi mfdem es un winmfdem :o(
Según lo que yo tengo entendio los winmodems consisten en modem que no tienen el este tipo de chip Rockwell y creo que la otra marca es Hayes que permiten al modem llevar toda la carga de la conexión. Con los winmodem es el micro de la máquina quien realiza esta función. Por otro lado si que también he oido o leido que los pci modem son cuanto menos xungos de configurar, yo espero que tengas suerte y que de una forma u otra lo puedas configurar, lo que si está claro es que no debe ser de la forma estandar que todos conocemos porque es PCI y no va al puerto serie como suelen hacer todos los que usamos. [EMAIL PROTECTED] con fecha 22/03/2000 11.05.45 Destinatarios: Daniel Ferradal Marquez/INFO/URQUIJO CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: RE: Me temo que mi mfdem es un winmfdem :o( Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable mira a ver si tiene algún tipo de chip rockwell, si lo tiene no es winmodem. Creo que sí que lo tiene, aunque como ya está instalado ha sido un poco difícil de ver :o) De todas formas es un poco raro porque si abro algunos de los ficheros .INF que vienen con los drivers de mi módem, allí pone Rockwell SoftK56 PCI Modem. Pero si abro la parte del módem en el panel de control de la configuración de windows, pone Conexant SoftK56 Data,Fax,Speakerphone PCI Modem. Pero incluso al abrir el Readme.txt en el que se explica como instalar los drivers para windows, pone otra cosa diferente: Cobra Modem. ¿Quizá eso de Cobra sea un tipo concreto de módem dentro de los Rockwell... ? No sé, no tengo ni idea. Pero sí que he leído que si hay chip Rockwell, quizá funcione si se le deshabilita la corrección de errores. ¿Es verdad? Voy a probar ahora a ver. De todas formas es interno y en la tienda me dijeron que casi seguro que sea winmódem pq el tío cree que todos los que han vendido allí sólo son para windows. Aunque no sé si tendrá mucha idea de eso del chip Rockwell. Muchas gracias. Emilio.
Re: ¿Qué está pasando?
On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Saxa Egea wrote: Pq no haces un cat /proc/mounts Alli te dira exactamente lo q tienes montado y lo q no... Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ cat /proc/mounts /dev/root / ext2 rw 0 0 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/c vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ Quizas con eso se te pueda dar mas info.. Saxa Espero esa información Saxa. Además Jaime me comentó ... Parece que algún proceso o algún usuario están usando el directorio /floppy y por eso no lo puedes usar para montar /dev/fd0 Revisa con ps aux y w a ver si descubres quien es el culpable. Jaime Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ ps aux |more USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND daemon 122 0.0 1.6 800 228 ? S Mar 16 0:14 /sbin/portmap daemon 149 0.0 0.6 84096 ? S Mar 16 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd diego20217 0.0 8.6 1916 1216 1 S Mar 21 0:00 -bash diego24033 0.0 6.1 1612 868 1 S09:03 0:02 telnet tajo diego24100 0.0 8.9 1916 1252 2 S09:17 0:00 -bash diego24281 0.0 3.6 908 512 2 R10:57 0:00 ps aux diego24282 0.0 8.9 1916 1252 2 R10:57 0:00 -bash lp 134 0.0 0.9 1500 136 ? S Mar 16 0:00 lpd MAIN root 1 0.0 0.8 756 116 ? S Mar 16 0:07 init root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 16 0:03 (kflushd) root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 16 0:00 (kswapd) root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 16 0:00 (md_thread) root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 16 0:00 (md_thread) root14 0.0 0.1 72028 ? S Mar 16 0:00 update root 102 0.0 2.3 908 324 ? S Mar 16 0:08 /sbin/syslogd root 113 0.0 0.3 74052 ? S Mar 16 0:00 /sbin/kerneld root 124 0.0 0.0 860 0 ? SW Mar 16 0:00 (inetd) root 129 0.0 0.5 76472 S0 S Mar 16 0:00 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev root 139 0.0 3.4 1396 488 ? R Mar 16 5:48 /usr/sbin/nmbd -D root 141 0.0 0.4 176068 ? S Mar 16 0:00 (smbd) root 152 0.0 1.1 860 164 ? S Mar 16 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron root 160 0.0 0.1 83624 6 S Mar 16 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty root 14650 0.0 0.0 836 0 5 SW Mar 20 0:00 (getty) root 20248 0.0 2.9 836 420 4 S Mar 21 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty root 20255 0.0 2.9 836 416 3 S Mar 21 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 ttyHarnina-diego-/home/diego-$ Yo aquí no veo nada pero si hay algo ... ... sigo sin /floppy aunque puedo montar /dev/fd0 en otro sitio. ¿Qué hago con lo del floppy? Gracias Diego
Re: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue?
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Santi wrote: Que tal? Que caracter de control hay que poner al inicio de /etc/issue para que la pantalla se borre (como con clear) cada vez que se inicia una nueva sesion en consola? Ya he probado ctrl+l. No funciona. Tienes el comando clear. Tambien puedes usar los códigos de consola de linux. Te permite usar colores entre otras cosas. man 4 console_codes De donde saca la informacion el codigo de escape \o que colocado en /etc/issue equivale a escribir el dominio de la maquina en el texto. En mi maquina no encuentra la informacion y pone: (none). Quiza alguien me pueda pasar su fichero /etc/issue e intentare resolver yo mis propias dudas. Gracias. -- Santiago Fernandez Departamento de Fisica Aplicada, Facultad de Fisica, Universidad de Santiago de Compostela. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informatica (tienda linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ (((Donde Linux)))http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: ATI
Hola! On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 11:34:39PM -0300, Alvarez Ricardo Marcelo wrote: Tengo pensado comprar una placa de video ATI RAGE FURY, alguien sabe si es buena y si es soportada por linux, en la pagina de ATI dice que apoya linux asi que supongo que no debe traer problemas. Gracias y saludos. Si esta soportada para las X, utiliza el servidor xserver-svga Un saludo Tomas -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
bajar de ftp con wget
quiero bajar todo un directorio de un servidor ftp con wget pero no lo hace sino que busca el archivo index.html, y al no encontrarlo va al raiz del servidor y enpieza a bajar de alli ejemplo #wget -r ftp://ftpdebian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/ como debo hacerlo
Re: bajar de ftp con wget
Pablo wrote: #wget -r ftp://ftpdebian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/ No me parece que wget sea lo que necesitas (pero puedo estar equivocado pues no conozco todas las posibilidades de wget). La opción -r sirve para buscar referencias del tipo a href=... y seguirlas, que no es lo que vas a tener en este caso. Te aconsejo que instales lftp o rsync que son mucho mejores para esto. Por ejemplo con lftp: lftp ftp.debian.org lftp ftp.debian.org:~ cd debian/dists/potato/main cd ok, cwd=/debian/dists/potato/main lftp ftp.debian.org:/debian/dists/potato/main mirror binary-i386 y si quieres lo puedes poner en background (man lftp), salir de la consola y dejarlo copiando por la noche. Jaime Villate
Re: bajar de ftp con wget
Pablo wrote: ... quiero bajar todo un directorio de un servidor ftp con wget pero ... #wget -r ftp://ftpdebian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/ ... Alguna vez usé el wget justamente para bajarme hamm de un mirror: wget -m --passive-ftp -w 10 ftp://ftp.riken.go.jp/pub/Linux/distributions/debian /hamm/hamm/binary-i386 Las opciones están explicadas en la man page, -m es para que haga un espejado (copia recursiva, preservando la fecha de modificación de los archivos y el ownership). passive-ftp lo necesito porque estoy detrás de un firewall, y -w 10 hace que espere 10 segundos entre traer un archivo y otro (para que la demás gente no proteste tanto). Ultimamente estoy usando rsync, que hace un mejor trabajo cuando se trata de archivos grandes con pocas modificaciones: rsync -v -a -u --partial --stats --exclude-from=exclist ftp.uk.debian.org::debian/dists/potato . donde exclist contiene: --- potato/main/binary-alpha potato/main/binary-m68k ... --- o sea: una lista con los directorios o archivos que *no* querés bajar. Espero que te resulte útil. -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()=\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm
Re: ¿Paquetes para NETSCAPE?
BUENOS DIAS!!! Y entonces, va Roberto Ripio y dice ¿Re: ¿Paquetes para NETSCAPE?? Aún con eso, al abrir netscape sin estar conectado, sigue quejándose de no poder conectar a home.netscape.com, home6.netscape.com, e internic.net, y eso sí que no parece haber modo de evitarlo. Me fastidia bastante usar un navegador con contador de visitas incorporado, pero no parece haber alternativa. Creo que no es un contador de visitas, si no que es una comprobacion de que el ordenador tiene bien configurado el DNS. Un beneficioso efecto secundario de utilizar el proxy/cache wwwoffle es que ya no da esos problemas aunque arranques offline. -- WinErr 003: Dynamic linking error - Your mistake is now in every file Grettings of _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] REGISTER Lic. Piloto Saludos __ _| |___ __ _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiNUX ISPA #963210 de / _` | / -_) _` | http://pagina.de/alea USER EC-ALE \__,_|_\___\__,_| ICQ#40922797 #66734
problemas con DNS
Hola a todos Tengo configurado un servidor DNS como secuntadario al menos eso quise hacer les explico El bind 8.1.2 aunque genera automaticamente /etc/named.boot no trabaja con el se limita a usar lo que pongamos en /etc/named.conf esto me trajo un poco de duda pues estaba leyendo el manual de DNS de José Vicente que aparece en Lucas, y esta claro como se define en named.boot los DNS secundarios. Pero de la poca informacion que vi en el DNS-HOWTO ya que el man named no me habla nada al respecto inclui en el named.conf zone midominio { type slave; file base del primario; masters {IP del primario;}; }; En esta pc parece que trabaja bien el Bind pues si solicito un nslookup de algun nombre me llega. Para probar en otra Pc puse en resolv.conf la direccion de la que tiene el servicio de DNS secundario pero cuando hago un nslookup aunque sea de mi red me da *** can't find server name for address 216.72... : no response from server *** default server are no available Pero si doy un ping de cualquier nombre de los host de la red funciona sin problema. Al igual que si pongo host -a un nombre me responde correctamente A esta segunda pc si le digo que resuelva la direccion del DNS primario no tiene ningun problema con el nslookup Que puede estar pasando, agradeceria me dieran una idea pues ya no se que debo hacer. Saludos - Humberto Morell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Login.app
Hola! Estoy usando el 'login.app' (para poder aceptar usuarios en las X, pero que no es un cliente xdm). Lo que pasa es que yo pensaba que esto era como el 'login' de la terminal, pero parece que no tanto. Porque yo no aparezco conectado por ningún lado: #w 2:11pm up 23 min, 0 users, load average: 0.02, 0.15, 0.26 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT Esto me mosquea un poco. No tiene ninguna importancia y evidentemente, todo funciona a la perfección, pero me gustaría que aparecieran los usuarios que están conectados. -- Saudos: ose[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vigo/Galicia/España) http://pagina.de/xmanoel/ http://w3.to/mikkeli/
Re: ¿Qué está pasando?
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: Mejor 'fuser /floppy' y buscar al responsable :) Javi Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ fuser -av /floppy/ USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /floppy/ No process references; use -v for the complete list Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ Por favor más ideas para solucionar esto. Repito que puedo montar /dev/fd0 en otro sitio pero no en /floppy pues me dice que está ocupado y Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ ls -al /floppy/ total 2 drwxrwsr-x 2 root floppy 1024 feb 1 1999 . drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 1024 nov 29 12:45 .. Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ Concretamente lo que me dice es Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ mount /dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw) Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ mount /floppy/ mount: /dev/fd0 already mounted or /floppy busy Harnina-diego-/home/diego-$ Toda ayuda es bienvenida. Diego
Re: problemas con DNS
Yo monte un DNS guiandome en el capitulo del BIND 8.x del manual de debian del administrador de redes. Me ayudo mucho, asi que lo traduje. Si esperas un poco, mañana te lo mando que lo tengo en casa. Si tienes prisa en www.debian.org lo encontraras en ingles (salvo que darlock lo haya subido en castellano). Es de los pocos capitulos que tiene este manual. Respecto a tu problema no se me ocurre nada decedente en este momento. Ya lo siento. Eso de que vaya con un ping y no con nslookup es extraño. Lo unico que se me ocurre es que el bind 8.x vigila quien accede, y decide que puede darle y que no. A lo mejor el nslookup pide demasiada informacion (por ejemplo la lista de los hosts que resuelve), y el bind no tiene autorizado darsela, pero a un simple ping si, porque pide poco. Saludos K-charro Para probar en otra Pc puse en resolv.conf la direccion de la que tiene el servicio de DNS secundario pero cuando hago un nslookup aunque sea de mi red me da *** can't find server name for address 216.72... : no response from server *** default server are no available Pero si doy un ping de cualquier nombre de los host de la red funciona sin problema.
helix en debian
Hola! He estado hechando un vistazo a la página de Helix Gnome, www.helixcode.com, y me parece que a los que usamos Debian nos han marginado totalmente. ¿Está en proyecto hacer paquetes Debian de Helix? Si quieres saber cómo pertenecer a Paco Brufal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fidonet, la red de correo con más Fidonet 2:346/3.68 CALIDAD del Mundo y SIN SPAM, preguntame como. ...Loud As Fuck (54321 Mix). Dj Sim. 1996 --- Mutt 1.0.1 + Sendmail 8.9.3 * Origin: FAQ de R34.LINUX: http://www.linuxfreak.com/~r34_linux (2:346/3.68)
Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine
Aonde está a url para baixar. O Wine funciona 98% com programas Win 3.1 Quoting MO Mez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, Alguem sabe se o programa do Imposto de Renda 2000 roda no Wine? A Receita Federal diz que precisa no minimo do Windows 3.11. Seria bom poder fazer o IR no Linux sem ter que procurar um amigo que tenha o Windows. Abracos = []s, Mario O. de Menezes http://www.geocities.com/modemene http://www.revistalinux.com.br __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Abraços,PH Linux Solutions - Renovando Conceitos - http://www.linuxsolutions.com.br OLinux - O maior e melhor site de Linux do Brasil - http://www.olinux.com.br Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Consultant
Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine
Oi, melhor seria se o pessoal da fazenda liberasse uma versao for linux. t+ MO Mez wrote: Hi, Alguem sabe se o programa do Imposto de Renda 2000 roda no Wine? A Receita Federal diz que precisa no minimo do Windows 3.11. Seria bom poder fazer o IR no Linux sem ter que procurar um amigo que tenha o Windows. Abracos -- Clovis Sena Itautec Servicos/Filial Recife Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fone: 081 - 421 1126.
Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine
Ola Paulo, A url da Receita Federal eh: http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br Voce esta utilizando o potato ou slink? Espero boas noticias! Abracos, = []s, Mario O. de Menezes http://www.geocities.com/modemene http://www.revistalinux.com.br __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine
Más noticias. Estou usando woody (bleeding edge) :) com o ultimo wine da empacotado pela debian (que eu acho que não é exatamente o último). Porem, o programa falha na hora da instalacao com uma mensagem em um dialogo simples do windows. corrupt file on install ou algo assim e só um botao de ok! Eu adoro o windows, sempre com mensagens de erro compreensíveis e contornáveis. Tenta no VMWare. Quoting MO Mez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Ola Paulo, A url da Receita Federal eh: http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br Voce esta utilizando o potato ou slink? Espero boas noticias! Abracos, = []s, Mario O. de Menezes http://www.geocities.com/modemene http://www.revistalinux.com.br __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Abraços,PH Linux Solutions - Renovando Conceitos - http://www.linuxsolutions.com.br OLinux - O maior e melhor site de Linux do Brasil - http://www.olinux.com.br Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Consultant
Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine
Caros, hoje mesmo me deparei com este problema. Aceito a ideia do wine como uma solucao provisoria que talvez nao funcione por ser um programa que mexe com banco de dados provavelmente cai exatamente nos 2% que faltam... e que provavelmente vao faltar por um bom periodo... meu posicionamento foi escrever imediatamente um e-mail para a receita federal reclamando que a disponibilizacao do programa para a declaracao do IRPF somente para plataformas WINDOWS/INTEL era um ato de favorecimento para uma empresa privada norte-americana e um ato discrinatorio com relacao aqueles que nao utilizam essa plataforma. O programa de declaracao do imposto de renda poderia ser feito em JAVA, ou em PERL/TK... nao eh um problema cujo codigo precise ser mantido em segredo... pode ser aberto... mas se nao quiserem.. que facam uma aplicacao WEB... acho ateh que seriam razoes para abrir um processo contra o ministerio da fazenda ; de qualquer forma... as pessoas nao deveriam aceitar essa imposicao... deveriam realmente reclamar... exigir uma versao para unix, para mac, para linux... nao eh uma questao de mercado... eh uma obrigacao legal ou ateh moral... []'s leo Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Aonde está a url para baixar. O Wine funciona 98% com programas Win 3.1 Quoting MO Mez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, Alguem sabe se o programa do Imposto de Renda 2000 roda no Wine? A Receita Federal diz que precisa no minimo do Windows 3.11. Seria bom poder fazer o IR no Linux sem ter que procurar um amigo que tenha o Windows. Abracos = []s, Mario O. de Menezes http://www.geocities.com/modemene http://www.revistalinux.com.br __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Abraços,PH Linux Solutions - Renovando Conceitos - http://www.linuxsolutions.com.br OLinux - O maior e melhor site de Linux do Brasil - http://www.olinux.com.br Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Consultant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:Ruoso;Leonardo x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Inova Tecnologias;Tecnico adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Analista de Sistemas x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Leonardo Ruoso end:vcard
Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine
Porque não fazer em gtk. Ele é multi-plataforma. Quoting Leonardo Ruoso ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Caros, hoje mesmo me deparei com este problema. Aceito a ideia do wine como uma solucao provisoria que talvez nao funcione por ser um programa que mexe com banco de dados provavelmente cai exatamente nos 2% que faltam... e que provavelmente vao faltar por um bom periodo... meu posicionamento foi escrever imediatamente um e-mail para a receita federal reclamando que a disponibilizacao do programa para a declaracao do IRPF somente para plataformas WINDOWS/INTEL era um ato de favorecimento para uma empresa privada norte-americana e um ato discrinatorio com relacao aqueles que nao utilizam essa plataforma. O programa de declaracao do imposto de renda poderia ser feito em JAVA, ou em PERL/TK... nao eh um problema cujo codigo precise ser mantido em segredo... pode ser aberto... mas se nao quiserem.. que facam uma aplicacao WEB... acho ateh que seriam razoes para abrir um processo contra o ministerio da fazenda ; de qualquer forma... as pessoas nao deveriam aceitar essa imposicao... deveriam realmente reclamar... exigir uma versao para unix, para mac, para linux... nao eh uma questao de mercado... eh uma obrigacao legal ou ateh moral... []'s leo Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Aonde está a url para baixar. O Wine funciona 98% com programas Win 3.1 Quoting MO Mez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, Alguem sabe se o programa do Imposto de Renda 2000 roda no Wine? A Receita Federal diz que precisa no minimo do Windows 3.11. Seria bom poder fazer o IR no Linux sem ter que procurar um amigo que tenha o Windows. Abracos = []s, Mario O. de Menezes http://www.geocities.com/modemene http://www.revistalinux.com.br __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Abraços,PH Linux Solutions - Renovando Conceitos - http://www.linuxsolutions.com.br OLinux - O maior e melhor site de Linux do Brasil - http://www.olinux.com.br Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Consultant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Description: Card for Leonardo Ruoso -- Abraços,PH Linux Solutions - Renovando Conceitos - http://www.linuxsolutions.com.br OLinux - O maior e melhor site de Linux do Brasil - http://www.olinux.com.br Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Consultant
GTK (Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine)
On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 08:01:15AM -0800, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Porque não fazer em gtk. Ele é multi-plataforma. Infelizmente, ainda não chegamos lá :-) (compilar uma aplicação GTK pra Windows é um parto e geralmente não funciona. O MingwGTK ainda está engatinhando.) Mas XFCE ou WxWindows (é isso?) resolveriam o problema. O problema é q o pessoal do Serpro não quer saber de fazer direito. Q isso, não faz nem 15 anos ainda q eles aprenderam Clipper! Pra q jogar fora? Temos sorte de os programas não serem em COBOL. Java pra eles é upstart... nem pensar []s, |alo + -- Hack and Roll ( http://www.hackandroll.org ) News for, uh, whatever it is that we are. http://www.webcom.com/lalo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key in the personal page Debian GNU/Linux---http://www.debian.org Brazil of Darkness--- http://zope.gf.com.br/BroDar
Re: GTK (Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine)
Hello people, Lalo Martins wrote: On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 08:01:15AM -0800, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Porque não fazer em gtk. Ele é multi-plataforma. Infelizmente, ainda não chegamos lá :-) (compilar uma aplicação acho que o que o Paulo quiz dizer eh que ela poderia ser feita em gtk para o linux; esta versao para windows nao precisava sofrer alteracao, pois esta bom como esta... se aquilo la foi feito em c ou c++ acho q o miolo do soft poderia ser reaproveitado, passando as telas a serem feitas usando os recursos do gtk; o glade ( http://glade.pn.org ) eh muito bom nisto de criar as telas, em menos de um mes dava para criar a estrutura basica das telas todas... t+ ps: se na pagina da receita tiver email, q tal mandar uns emails reclamando ??? ( afinal quem nao chora fica chupando o dedo! ;-) ) ps2: um amigo meu falou q o corel office 2000 ja tava disponivel, alguem ta sabendo de alguma coisa?? -- Clovis Sena Itautec Servicos/Filial Recife Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fone: 081 - 421 1126.
Re: GTK (Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine)
Tem um artigo hoje na LinuxWorld sobre o Corel Office 2000. O cara disse, se eu entendi bem, que o Corel Office 2000 roda no Linux sobre o Wine. Ou seja, é o binário do Windows que roda no Linux. Impressionante! Quoting Clovis Sena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello people, Lalo Martins wrote: On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 08:01:15AM -0800, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Porque não fazer em gtk. Ele é multi-plataforma. Infelizmente, ainda não chegamos lá :-) (compilar uma aplicação acho que o que o Paulo quiz dizer eh que ela poderia ser feita em gtk para o linux; esta versao para windows nao precisava sofrer alteracao, pois esta bom como esta... se aquilo la foi feito em c ou c++ acho q o miolo do soft poderia ser reaproveitado, passando as telas a serem feitas usando os recursos do gtk; o glade ( http://glade.pn.org ) eh muito bom nisto de criar as telas, em menos de um mes dava para criar a estrutura basica das telas todas... t+ ps: se na pagina da receita tiver email, q tal mandar uns emails reclamando ??? ( afinal quem nao chora fica chupando o dedo! ;-) ) ps2: um amigo meu falou q o corel office 2000 ja tava disponivel, alguem ta sabendo de alguma coisa?? -- Clovis Sena Itautec Servicos/Filial Recife Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fone: 081 - 421 1126. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Abraços,PH Linux Solutions - Renovando Conceitos - http://www.linuxsolutions.com.br OLinux - O maior e melhor site de Linux do Brasil - http://www.olinux.com.br Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Consultant
Re: GTK (Re: Imposto de Renda no Wine)
Fazer uma aplicacao e outra para windows nao eh legal. Se a aplicacao precisar de uma alteracao, precisarah de uma em cada versao. Clovis Sena wrote: Hello people, Lalo Martins wrote: On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 08:01:15AM -0800, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Porque não fazer em gtk. Ele é multi-plataforma. Infelizmente, ainda não chegamos lá :-) (compilar uma aplicação acho que o que o Paulo quiz dizer eh que ela poderia ser feita em gtk para o linux; esta versao para windows nao precisava sofrer alteracao, pois esta bom como esta... se aquilo la foi feito em c ou c++ acho q o miolo do soft poderia ser reaproveitado, passando as telas a serem feitas usando os recursos do gtk; o glade ( http://glade.pn.org ) eh muito bom nisto de criar as telas, em menos de um mes dava para criar a estrutura basica das telas todas... -- Marcelo Elias Del ValleUIN: 30595143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tilt.8m.com MLinuxer Do you visit GamesNow today?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://games_now.netpedia.net Autronix - Tecnologia em Automação Industrial http://members.xoom.com/autronix
Ssh
Instalei SSh na minha maquina e nao estou consiguindo colocar o script para que quando reboot a maquina, ligue automaticamente o sshd. No site da debian nao consegui muita informacao (ou eu que nao achei heheh). Alguem sabe como fazer para que quando iniciar a maquina, ligue automaticamente o sshd? grato Rick
Replacing system hard drive?
My hard drive is starting to make noise, so I bought a replacement. What is the recommended way to make the switch? All my Linux partitions are on this disk except the swap partition. My Win95 OS is on a separate drive. This is a SCSI disk running 2.0.35 if that makes any difference. Regards, Jerry Certus Consulting Group | Specializing in Integrated Circuit Antioch, CA 94509 | Design and Verification, Logic (925)757-0685 (925)777-1964 (fax) | Synthesis, Fault Grading, Test http://www.certus.com | Development and Project Management
Re: resetting dselect
ok, well lets just say this: what if the packages are in the upacked (not set up); install (was: install) state. and i want the dselect to just ignore the face that they are not set up the reason why is that i can't install anything without gettting ride of this packages first. is there an easier way around this? [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Beavis) wrote: hello, i installed a few .deb manually meaning dpkg -i filename but dselect thinks that are are still unconfigured, which is not true They aren't just in obsolete/local? If they are, you can safely ignore them. If dselect thinks they're unconfigured then they probably are (dselect gets its information from the dpkg database, and installing via dselect is really not much different from 'dpkg -i'); does 'dpkg --configure -a' help? how do u reset the deselect so that it doesn't pick up the packages as existing in the system Er, if a package has been installed with dpkg than you can't tell dselect it doesn't exist without doing serious violence to your packaging system. I don't recommend that at all. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Lying to dpkg?
Jonas wrote: Have a look at the equivs package. The other programs should find your programs as long as you have them in the $PATH. For anyone who's interested, I took this route since it would solve the problem once and for all. Other than the fact that the equivs package fails to list its own dependencies (makedeb was the one that caught me up for a few minutes) it went smoothly and seems to be working perfectly. dpkg and dselect are no longer nagging me about installing apache or mysql. Thanks everyone for the help. Phoenix
Re: (not)lame batch job
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Hans wrote: I've been comparing (not)lame313 and bladeenc today and (not)lame does sound equally good at 128 compared to bladeenc at 256 bitrate. I use The Who's 'Won't Get Fooled Again' for comparison, if you wonder. What I can't get done with (not)lame is batch jobs. Bladeenc simply names the mp3 after the original file, changing wav to mp3. You can type $bladeenc *.wav and all the wav files in the directory get encoded. How can you do this with (not)lame, as it requires both input and output name? --hans -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I'm using cdenc - snip --- #!/usr/bin/perl # # Creation of whole mp3 Suite of one CD # # Version 0.3.5 of 06.07.1999 by Stephan Skrodzki # snip - with little changes with lame or gogo. a very easy way to create *.mp3 from complete CD with playlist and html index. lucky day Peter
Re: (not)lame batch job
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Hans wrote: I've been comparing (not)lame313 and bladeenc today and (not)lame does sound equally good at 128 compared to bladeenc at 256 bitrate. I use The Who's 'Won't Get Fooled Again' for comparison, if you wonder. What I can't get done with (not)lame is batch jobs. Bladeenc simply names the mp3 after the original file, changing wav to mp3. You can type $bladeenc *.wav and all the wav files in the directory get encoded. How can you do this with (not)lame, as it requires both input and output name? --hans -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null supplementary information: see attached README CDENC - A whole CD Encoding Script -- This is Version 0.3.5 (the 6. released Version) Made by Stephan Skrodzki Mannheim, Germany Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.stevekist.de a) What is it for? CDENC lets you mp3-encode a whole CD, writes a tracks.idx, albums.idx and medname.idx file for the sajber-jukebox, writes an index.html for WWW requests and generates an overview index.html with all albums. CDENC also generates mp3info tags for usage with many popular players on different OS types. b) What do you need for it? * cdenc (as you have it right now...) from http://www.cybercable.tm.fr/~steve * l3enc from the Fraunhofer IIS (http://www.iis.fhg.de/audio/) * The sajber-jukebox from Wizball (http://kewl.campus.luth.se/~wizball/jukebox/) * cda by Ti Kan (http://sunsite.unc.edu/~cddb/xmcd/) * cdda2wav by Heiko (e.g. ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/cdda2wav/) * mp3info by Thorvald Natvig (ftp://bimbo.hive.no/pub/mp3info/) c) How do you install it? Put cdenc wherever you like (/usr/local/bin/ would be a nice place) and install cdenc.1 in the appropriate manpath. For configuration issues look at the top of cdenc... It should be easy at all... Sorry I don't have a command line option for setting the device to grab from, but they look a little bit strange for cdda2wav d) And how to use? First of all cdenc has some help inside. Do cdenc -help for that. Second cdenc has a manpage... Look for it, please. Third cdenc has a source :-) So, what is the normal way you work? Create a directory e.g. ~/musik/ and make a cd to that directory. Think about what medianame you'd like to give your first mp3 media. Perhaps call it mp3cd001 as other 998 will follow :-). Start cdenc -medname medname and come back after a few hours (or do you have an alpha?). After that have a look at the things which were produced... Create a bookmark leading to ~/musik/medname/index.html to have an overview of your disk... Use the sajber jukebox, create a new browser, and collect files by index file in the edit browser section. Thats all. e) Hints If you have a cd which has no database entry yet, create one using xmcd. You could add/renew the index anytime you like using the -nomp3 option. If you're online you should configure your xmcd to get data entries over the net... Beware: xmcd 2.2PL0 has a small bug in cda, which doesn't let it handle local databases correct. Get PL1. f) to be done Nothing so far... If you like to have changes feel free to do them in the source, if you think they are important for other mail them to me. So far to this feel free to drop me a line when you like this program, don't hesitate to flame when you hate it :-) Steve
Re: Debian
Hi, Well, thanks for all that info. Guess the support and packaging does it for Debian. Sounds good. And then to mention that not long ago I read that Debian had no support. I installed Debian, but haven't used it long yet, so we'll see. thx Bart
Re: Mounting Sound Blaster Pro CD-ROM
I thing the most SB-CD ROM only support audio. bootmessage only audio will work last test with 2.0.36 Peter On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, David Densmore wrote: I just installed an old Sound Blaster Pro CD-ROM and compiled kernel support for it. I think I have done everything right because the boot messages list it at the right address and it seems to be named sbpcd-0. It is also listed in /proc/devices as a block device. But I can't figure out how to mount it. I've tried things like: mount -t iso9660 /dev/sbpcd-0 /cdrom /dev/sbpcd0 sbpcd-0 and every combination and permutation I can think of, but I just can't figure out the proper command. Anyone happen to know this? Thank you, David Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian
And don't give me the 'it is the only really non-commercial version' crap. What makes you think anyone intended to do so? Remarks like that serve only to discourage useful answers. Most Linux users I talked to on IRC are a bit principal (is that the right english word for it?) and *will* give these answers. I assumed that on mailingslists will be the same kind of people than on IRC. Maybe that wasn't right to assume (is it?). I also have those principles and would've given such an answer. You're right when I should have just another term than 'crap'. Sorry for that. Bart
Re: glibc-compat ???
Jose == Jose Marin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I'm reposting this question because I didn't get any answer recently. Maybe this has been discussed before but I haven't been able to dig it up from the mailing list archives or dejanews. I'm using several machines, some with potato, some with woody. I need to install a free (as in gratis, not speech) F compiler, which needs glibc2.0 and won't work with glibc2.1. Other people with Suse or RedHat have reported the same problem, and they have fixed it installing compatibility packages containing glibc2.0. To be exact, they mention installing the compat-glibc-5.2-2.0.7.1 rpm and adding a -L/usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib to the end of the compile line. Maybe you could use alien and install the rpm? I thing potato and woody is totally commited to 2.1 Marshal It seems we don't have such compatibility packages for Debian; what am I missing? Could one install slink's glibc2.0 in a non-obstrusive way under potato or woody? FWIW, the error messages are of this type: /usr/local/lib/F/libf90.a(open.o): In function `__NAGf90_open': open.o(.text+0xc77): undefined reference to `_fxstat' TIA, Jose -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
HPFS partitions
Linux is in my /dev/hdb1 partition. OS/2 files are in three HPFS partitions: /dev/hda3; /devhda4; and /dev/hda5. My question is: What command do I issue in Linux so that I can access the HPFS partitions from Linux and copy files from OS/2 to Linux. (I have some .tar files sitting in OS/2 that I want to move over to Linux). Thanks, Sandy
Difference between woody and potato
I'm a bit confused about woody and potato. I though that potato is always the newest, bleeding edge distribution. And that woody is the code-name for the 2.2 release. So why is unstable pointing to woody, and frozen to potato? I found this out when I tried to get gimp1.1 and found it not there, even when my sources.list is pointing to unstable. Mind you, gimp1.1 should be in unstable anyways, I think, since it's going into 2.2. (or is it?) Clarification and corrections are appreciated. Dazed and Confused. :) Marshal
TEX: tex.fmt, latex.fmt, jadetex.fmt missing.
I'm having the familiar *.fmt files missing when trying to use tex. The mail archives suggest that the solution is to install tex from the proposed-updates directories but that solution doesn't work (at least not any more). The URL ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates/.4/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates does not exist anymore. ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux is now at ftp.freesoftware.com but the directory path does not exist. I have setup my /etc/apt/sources.list file to I have browsed ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates/ and ftp://ftp.debian.org/dists/slink-proposed-updates/ and there is no mention of any tex packages. I point apt at these sites any it says that my tex distribution is the newest available when I try to install. What is the current solution to the tex.fmt, latex.fmt, jadetex.fmt problem ? I'm getting a little frustrated now. I don't want to go back to RedHat. I hope someone can help. Thanks, Brendan Simon. -- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --- Go to an ftp archive and go into the proposed-updates for slink. There was some sort of y2k problem with tex where the make format or something to that effect failed. Anyway, the updated package will work. In fact here is the url for the cdrom debian archive. ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates/.4/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates brian On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 12:56:30PM -0800, G. Crimp wrote: Hi, I've been using TeX at work for a few weeks now. Last week I got a new computer and installed 2.1 on it (same as was on the old box). As far as I can tell, I have all the appropriate tetex packages in place. TeX no longer works, though. When I try to run tex on a .tex file, I get the following error: This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2) I can't find the format file `tex.fmt'! The tetex docs say to run the command `texconfig init' in such a case. When I run it I get tons of output, including the following excerpts: [...] Beginning to dump on file tex.fmt (format=tex 1999.12.30) [...] No pages of output. Transcript written on tex.log [...] The command continues to run producing similar output concerning latex and metafont. However, the file tex.fmt is nowhere to be found on my file system. Maybe the line No pages of output. explains that. I thought I could get some answers from the transcript in tex.log, but that file appears not to have been written anywhere either. Anybody know what I have done wrong on this new computer, or more positively, how I can back to writing documentation with TeX ?
Re: Large Hard Drive Problems, HELP!
hi Brian I know there is/was a problem with large hard drives. I am using the Asus P5A motherboard, with its on board IDE controllers. I have each drive as master on the two controllers. I had similar problems with the very same mb. For some reason the way this BIOS tells the size of the drives capacity is not understood by the kernel (atleast that is what I think:). But fortunately it is possible to force the drive head/cylinder layout upon the kernel. At the lilo boot prompt do something like: linux hda=1826,25,63 hdc=1826,255,63 or use the append facility of the lili.conf like append=hda=1826,255,63 hdc=1826,255,63 Ofcourse to make it work for you you have to correct the drive letters and the cylinder/heads/sectors numbers according to your situation. PS: only one append line is honoured in lilo.conf! -- groetjes, carel
I Screwed up WindowMaker
Hey, I just upgraded WindowMaker on my slink from http://www.debian.org/~vincent/, but now it doesn't work. When I start X Windows, it starts to display the appicon and stuff, but then it goes back to the login screen. Does any one know what's wrong? Thanks, Cameron Matheson
looking for nice way to throw out old mail in mutt
Hello Dusers, I like being subscribed to debian user. I also end up not being able to read it from lack of time. I have exim filter debiaan user into its own mailbox, but I would like to be able to have messages over a week (or some other arbitrary time) fed to the /dev/null monster. Does any one have a nice way to do this? TIA -- Frisco Rose By any other name, I would smell the same E.O.U. Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] (541) 962-2987 Science Journal Ed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] EOU Hoke Center 307 (541) 962-3787 La Grande, OR. 97850
bootloaders and fips alternative
Greetings yet again Dusers, I have been asked by our Physics Dept. to carve up a win box and install the one true OS on it. I recall reading a while ago that there was an up and comming nice replacement (functionally) to fips. Unfotunately I don't recall the name off hand. Any body know what I am talking about? Also I wanted to put together a nice boot interface so as not to scare off the uninitiated. I was hoping for something with pretty grahics and nice verbose dialogue. I know that I can get lilo to do the job, but... By the way does anyone know if the new lilo that can handle really large drives is in potato, or if it is going to make it into potato? TTFN and TIA -- Frisco Rose By any other name, I would smell the same E.O.U. Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] (541) 962-2987 Science Journal Ed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] EOU Hoke Center 307 (541) 962-3787 La Grande, OR. 97850
outdated packages
there are several packages included in debian archives that are outdated. instead of installing the outdated ones, in some cases are useless to me, i want to compile an updated copy of the source. i'm trying to figure out how i can compile this source, and let dpkg/dselect know that they've been installed. my first problem was alsa. i had to compile and updated copy of alsa. Esound needs to be installed with support with alsa, but dpkg doesn't know that alsa has been installed, causing an irritating chain of dependencies and problems. does anyone know how to fix this? i'm sure this has been answered before, but i couldn't find it anywhere in the archives. and please reply to this address, as i am not currently subscribed to the mailing list. thank you. jerry jaskierny
Re: Debian
Bart == Bart Friederichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Well, thanks for all that info. Guess the support and packaging does it for Debian. Sounds good. And then to mention that not long ago I read that Debian had no support. I installed Debian, but haven't used it long yet, so we'll see. I think the no support part is more of a no OFFICIAL support. Debian isn't backed by a company, but it's backed by users, who, I think, do a better job in the long run. my 2 cents. (well, okay, about a penny if you convert from CAD to USD) Marshal thx Bart -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Installing old packages
Hey, I can't get the new version of WindowMaker to work, but I was wondering if there was a way to install the old version (the one on the CD of Debian Slink). Is this possible? Thanks, Cameron Matheson
How do you remove files with bad/wierd names
I was wondering how to remove a file by the name of --help.tgz? (Don't ask...Okay if you really must know, I typed in tgz --help and I get that file. There's no man page for tgz, and I think tgz shouldn't accept things starting with -- as file names...) rm always takes it as an option, even if quotes, double-quoted, backslashed, regular-expressioned. Any suggestions? Marshal
Re: resetting dselect
Beavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beavis ok, well lets just say this: what if the packages are in the Beavis upacked (not set up); install (was: install) state. Then you should probably configure them, either using 'dpkg --configure --pending' from the command line or using dselect's Configure option. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
HPFS partitions
Linux is in my /dev/hdb1 partition. OS/2 files are in three HPFS partitions: /dev/hda3; /devhda4; and /dev/hda5. My question is: What command do I issue in Linux so that I can access the HPFS partitions from Linux and copy files from OS/2 to Linux. (I have some .tar files sitting in OS/2 that I want to move over to Linux). Thanks, Sandy
RE: Difference between woody and potato
I'm a bit confused about woody and potato. I though that potato is always the newest, bleeding edge distribution. And that woody is the code-name for the 2.2 release. Each version has a code name. The code name doesn't relate to whether the distribution is in stable or unstable or frozen. It only relates to the release number. 2.1 is slink (currently stable). 2.2 is potato (currently frozen but will hopefully soon be stable). And woody refers to what I imagine will become 2.3 down the line. Phoenix
Re: TEX: tex.fmt, latex.fmt, jadetex.fmt missing.
I'm not sure, but perhaps run fmtutil? Just a shot in the dark. Marshal Brendan == Brendan J Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm having the familiar *.fmt files missing when trying to use tex. The mail archives suggest that the solution is to install tex from the proposed-updates directories but that solution doesn't work (at least not any more). The URL ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates/.4/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates does not exist anymore. ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux is now at ftp.freesoftware.com but the directory path does not exist. I have setup my /etc/apt/sources.list file to I have browsed ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates/ and ftp://ftp.debian.org/dists/slink-proposed-updates/ and there is no mention of any tex packages. I point apt at these sites any it says that my tex distribution is the newest available when I try to install. What is the current solution to the tex.fmt, latex.fmt, jadetex.fmt problem ? I'm getting a little frustrated now. I don't want to go back to RedHat. I hope someone can help. Thanks, Brendan Simon. -- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --- Go to an ftp archive and go into the proposed-updates for slink. There was some sort of y2k problem with tex where the make format or something to that effect failed. Anyway, the updated package will work. In fact here is the url for the cdrom debian archive. ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates/.4/linux/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates brian On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 12:56:30PM -0800, G. Crimp wrote: Hi, I've been using TeX at work for a few weeks now. Last week I got a new computer and installed 2.1 on it (same as was on the old box). As far as I can tell, I have all the appropriate tetex packages in place. TeX no longer works, though. When I try to run tex on a .tex file, I get the following error: This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2) I can't find the format file `tex.fmt'! The tetex docs say to run the command `texconfig init' in such a case. When I run it I get tons of output, including the following excerpts: [...] Beginning to dump on file tex.fmt (format=tex 1999.12.30) [...] No pages of output. Transcript written on tex.log [...] The command continues to run producing similar output concerning latex and metafont. However, the file tex.fmt is nowhere to be found on my file system. Maybe the line No pages of output. explains that. I thought I could get some answers from the transcript in tex.log, but that file appears not to have been written anywhere either. Anybody know what I have done wrong on this new computer, or more positively, how I can back to writing documentation with TeX ? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: glibc-compat ???
It seems we don't have such compatibility packages for Debian; what am I missing? Could one install slink's glibc2.0 in a non-obstrusive way under potato or woody? Maybe you could use alien and install the rpm? I thing potato and woody is totally commited to 2.1 Strange. If i can remember, Slink has libc5 compatibility libs. Why not glibc2.0 compatibility libs for potato, as RH-based distros have? I'm CC'ing this post to debian-devel (the right place to talk about this issue). Taupter
input/output error
I had to reinstall my system recently, and since then, I have been unable to get my lcd working, I think the serial port might be messed up. I had a backup of my old system, and I had many many versions of lcdproc, including one from dselect, but they all say the same thing. leko:/usr/local/bin#./LCDd -t 20x4 -d MtxOrb -b on MtxOrb_init: failed (Input/output error) Error loading driver MtxOrb. Continuing anyway... Well, they don't all continue anyways, but all get the i/o error. I have used /dev/ttys0 and /dev/ttys1, its got to be one of them. Actually, it needs to be /dev/ttys1 since 0 is my UPS, which does seem to work. Any ideas? -Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Difference between woody and potato
Phoenix == Phoenix Amon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm a bit confused about woody and potato. I though that potato is always the newest, bleeding edge distribution. And that woody is the code-name for the 2.2 release. Each version has a code name. The code name doesn't relate to whether the distribution is in stable or unstable or frozen. It only relates to the release number. 2.1 is slink (currently stable). 2.2 is potato (currently frozen but will hopefully soon be stable). And woody refers to what I imagine will become 2.3 down the line. Ah, all clear now. Still doesn't explain why gimp1.1 isn't in unstable, but I guess everyone is working on frozen right now... Marshal Phoenix
Re: Difference between woody and potato
- Original Message - From: Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 6:44 PM Subject: Difference between woody and potato I'm a bit confused about woody and potato. I though that potato is always the newest, bleeding edge distribution. And that woody is the code-name for the 2.2 release. So why is unstable pointing to woody, and frozen to potato? I suppose you could break it down more but Debian has three stages: unstable, frozen and stable. Hamm, Slink, Potato, Woody are just names and each name goes through all three steps. I'm sure there is something about this at the web site if you want more. hth, kent I found this out when I tried to get gimp1.1 and found it not there, even when my sources.list is pointing to unstable. Mind you, gimp1.1 should be in unstable anyways, I think, since it's going into 2.2. (or is it?) Clarification and corrections are appreciated. Dazed and Confused. :) Marshal -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: outdated packages
Try downloading the deb source, patching the source, and then using dpkg-buildpackage or dpkg --build. (Check the man pages.) Make sure you get the source from the debian website or with apt, if you have the deb-src lines in sources.list, as it will contain debian subdirectory in the source tree, which is needed by dpkg to build debs. Marshal Jerry == Jerry J Jaskierny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there are several packages included in debian archives that are outdated. instead of installing the outdated ones, in some cases are useless to me, i want to compile an updated copy of the source. i'm trying to figure out how i can compile this source, and let dpkg/dselect know that they've been installed. my first problem was alsa. i had to compile and updated copy of alsa. Esound needs to be installed with support with alsa, but dpkg doesn't know that alsa has been installed, causing an irritating chain of dependencies and problems. does anyone know how to fix this? i'm sure this has been answered before, but i couldn't find it anywhere in the archives. and please reply to this address, as i am not currently subscribed to the mailing list. thank you. jerry jaskierny -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Difference between woody and potato
Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: I'm a bit confused about woody and potato. I though that potato is always the newest, bleeding edge distribution. And that woody is the code-name for the 2.2 release. So why is unstable pointing to woody, and frozen to potato? I found this out when I tried to get gimp1.1 and found it not there, even when my sources.list is pointing to unstable. Mind you, gimp1.1 should be in unstable anyways, I think, since it's going into 2.2. (or is it?) Clarification and corrections are appreciated. Dazed and Confused. :) Debian has two branchs: stable: the well-tested, production-level distribuition. unstable: in-development distribuiton. When an unstable version is reaching the poit to be stable, it is frozen, and then newer features/packages are no more allowed. It's time to refine the packages to put them in production-level, and soon release a new stable distro. At this time, frozen means almost stable, and a newer unstable brach arises and continue evolving as usual, with newer packages, et cetera. The next stable version will be Potato, and it will happen soon (I hope). Meanwhile, the bleeding-edge/development/explosive/radioactive/unstable is (and will be, for a while) Woody (v. 2.3 or something bigger). Taupter
Re: Time taken by a script
Ron Rademaker wrote: I've written a cgi script in perl an I would like to know how long (exactly, 10th of second) it takes to execute the script, how can I do this? Ron -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null addendum: you can run CGI scripts in offline mode and feed them their form variables through standard intput or command line args. so do something like $bashtime foo.cgi key=valuekey1=value and that will spit back some execution times. Do that alot for an average. Justin
Re: /etc/rc?.d directories missing on potato install
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 03:25:33PM -0500, Jameson Burt wrote: Last week I installed potato on a new computer. Before the first reboot, I selected one of the category of packages. After the first reboot, install let me select more packages, but exited prematurely. One possible reason would be that /var was limited to the size of /, 128MB, so apt-get may have crashed trying to pull down 700MB into 128MB of space [I had 10GB of space on /usr/local, which I later linked /var/cache into]. Bad juju that lack of disk space! I reinstalled sysvinit to get the /etc/rc?.d directories; however, reinstalling other packages like apache are not creating the links from /etc/rc?.d into /etc/init.d . I could make the links myself, but they have a certain number sequence, so I had best let the Debian installation create this links. The first thing that comes to mind, is you have at least one link to the packages in question in one of the /etc/rc?.d directories. The update-rc.d won't muck with your links unless there are none. This way, every time you do an upgrade, your links don't get screwed with. If you want the defaults do update-rc.d -f package remove ; update-rc.d package defaults. That should do the trick. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: I Screwed up WindowMaker
What if any errors are displayed on that screen it goes back to? -Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matheson wrote: Hey, I just upgraded WindowMaker on my slink from http://www.debian.org/~vincent/, but now it doesn't work. When I start X Windows, it starts to display the appicon and stuff, but then it goes back to the login screen. Does any one know what's wrong? Thanks, Cameron Matheson -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: outdated packages
thanks, i'd already thought of that. but i'd assume there has to be a more convenient way. debian can't possibly be built on just the packages and dependencies it provides. On 23 Mar 2000, Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: Try downloading the deb source, patching the source, and then using dpkg-buildpackage or dpkg --build. (Check the man pages.) Make sure you get the source from the debian website or with apt, if you have the deb-src lines in sources.list, as it will contain debian subdirectory in the source tree, which is needed by dpkg to build debs. Marshal Jerry == Jerry J Jaskierny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there are several packages included in debian archives that are outdated. instead of installing the outdated ones, in some cases are useless to me, i want to compile an updated copy of the source. i'm trying to figure out how i can compile this source, and let dpkg/dselect know that they've been installed. my first problem was alsa. i had to compile and updated copy of alsa. Esound needs to be installed with support with alsa, but dpkg doesn't know that alsa has been installed, causing an irritating chain of dependencies and problems. does anyone know how to fix this? i'm sure this has been answered before, but i couldn't find it anywhere in the archives. and please reply to this address, as i am not currently subscribed to the mailing list. thank you. jerry jaskierny -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: HPFS partitions
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 04:36:13PM -0500, Sandy Shapiro wrote: Linux is in my /dev/hdb1 partition. OS/2 files are in three HPFS partitions: /dev/hda3; /devhda4; and /dev/hda5. My question is: What command do I issue in Linux so that I can access the HPFS partitions from Linux and copy files from OS/2 to Linux. (I have some .tar files sitting in OS/2 that I want to move over to Linux). $ mount -t hpfs /dev/hda? /mnt See man mount, man fstab for more info on various flags. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: Is My Copy Bad?
Yes I am trying to install Debian from a CDROM and booting from this. I am trying to install on a p-133, 32-meg 16xCDROM, IDE hard drive and CDROM boot enabled. The installer runs fine, I mount the root partition and so on. Then I get to the problem step Install Operating System Kernel and Modules. First time round I selected (Install from CDROM - at /dev/hdb /dev/hdb. It's the problem. I saw lots of people having the same problem, and the cause was HD and CD-ROM on the same IDE. You must open your computer, attach (only) the CD-ROM on the secondary IDE, and use /dev/hdd instead. If the computer's firmware is so old that it doesn't recognize one slave device without master on the secondary IDE, you must change your CD-ROM's jumper to set the CD-ROM drive as master (/dev/hdc). It _will_ solve your problem. Taupter
Re: Difference between woody and potato
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 07:44:58PM -0500, Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: I'm a bit confused about woody and potato. I though that potato is always the newest, bleeding edge distribution. And that woody is the code-name for the 2.2 release. So why is unstable pointing to woody, and frozen to potato? I found this out when I tried to get gimp1.1 and found it not there, even when my sources.list is pointing to unstable. Mind you, gimp1.1 should be in unstable anyways, I think, since it's going into 2.2. (or is it?) Clarification and corrections are appreciated. potato and woody are just code names. The actual unstable is bleeding edge, and frozen is the next release. Currently potato is frozen (a la Debian 2.2) and woody is the new unstable. Sooner or later potato will release and become unstable...then some time down the road woody will freeze and become frozen...and the whole cycle starts again (but something else will be the new unstable, not sure of the code name though). Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: How do you remove files with bad/wierd names
Pollywog == Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 23-Mar-2000 Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: I was wondering how to remove a file by the name of --help.tgz? (Don't ask...Okay if you really must know, I typed in tgz --help and I get that file. There's no man page for tgz, and I think tgz shouldn't accept things starting with -- as file names...) rm always takes it as an option, even if quotes, double-quoted, backslashed, regular-expressioned. Any suggestions? Marshal try 'rm -- --help.tgz' Woohoo! Thanks. I should have though of that, since I just read about -- in the bash man pages. Thanks again. (no quotes) -- Andrew
Re: libXpm.so.4.11
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 03:04:40PM +0100, Jose Alberto Lobo wrote: A problem with libXpm.so.4. I run debian 2.1, kernel 2.2.14, and recently downloaded and compiled a program from citrix.com which I need to access through the net certain databases on a server running MS-Windows. When I try to run the program the shell complains that can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'. I noticed Debian 2.1 has libXpm.so.4.10 in /usr/X11R6/lib. In a different computer running Slackware 4.0, I observed libXpm.so.4.11 instead, also in /usr/X11R6/lib. I'm guessing that the differences between 4.10 and 4.11 should not be significant enough to cause breakage. Typically, a symlink is all that is required (ln -s libXpm.so.4.10 libXpm.so.4). However, if you compile the program against a newer version, it's likely to break with older versions. I'm not sure why you didn't have the symlink, and the libXpm in potato is 4.11. Looks like another user posted a solution to your Bash problem. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: Time taken by a script
Ron Rademaker wrote: I've written a cgi script in perl an I would like to know how long (exactly, 10th of second) it takes to execute the script, how can I do this? Ron -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Since Perl is an interpreted language, there are no assurances as to how long it will take to run your script, because it highly dependent on how Perl decides to process your instructions. CGI scripts typically are under their own process anyhow, so it also depends on when the OS decides to schedule your script for execution. Since Linux is not a Real Time OS there are no assurances on either front. The point being that you can get a pretty good average (down to a tenth of a second) in testing, but execution time may widly vary under a heavy system load. Solution: Average time under a heavy load and feel comfortable with an average. Justin
RE: How do you remove files with bad/wierd names
On 23-Mar-2000 Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: I was wondering how to remove a file by the name of --help.tgz? (Don't ask...Okay if you really must know, I typed in tgz --help and I get that file. There's no man page for tgz, and I think tgz shouldn't accept things starting with -- as file names...) rm always takes it as an option, even if quotes, double-quoted, backslashed, regular-expressioned. Any suggestions? Marshal try 'rm -- --help.tgz' (no quotes) -- Andrew
Re: outdated packages
You could also try dummy-package, or make-dummy-package, or something like that (I've forgotten the name, and amd too lazy to go look it up.) to create a dummy package that satisfies the dependencies that you need. I never did get around to figuring out how to use it though. Jerry == Jerry J Jaskierny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thanks, i'd already thought of that. but i'd assume there has to be a more convenient way. debian can't possibly be built on just the packages and dependencies it provides. On 23 Mar 2000, Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: Try downloading the deb source, patching the source, and then using dpkg-buildpackage or dpkg --build. (Check the man pages.) Make sure you get the source from the debian website or with apt, if you have the deb-src lines in sources.list, as it will contain debian subdirectory in the source tree, which is needed by dpkg to build debs. Marshal Jerry == Jerry J Jaskierny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there are several packages included in debian archives that are outdated. instead of installing the outdated ones, in some cases are useless to me, i want to compile an updated copy of the source. i'm trying to figure out how i can compile this source, and let dpkg/dselect know that they've been installed. my first problem was alsa. i had to compile and updated copy of alsa. Esound needs to be installed with support with alsa, but dpkg doesn't know that alsa has been installed, causing an irritating chain of dependencies and problems. does anyone know how to fix this? i'm sure this has been answered before, but i couldn't find it anywhere in the archives. and please reply to this address, as i am not currently subscribed to the mailing list. thank you. jerry jaskierny -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Difference between woody and potato
Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 07:44:58PM -0500, Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: I'm a bit confused about woody and potato. I though that potato is always the newest, bleeding edge distribution. And that woody is the code-name for the 2.2 release. So why is unstable pointing to woody, and frozen to potato? I found this out when I tried to get gimp1.1 and found it not there, even when my sources.list is pointing to unstable. Mind you, gimp1.1 should be in unstable anyways, I think, since it's going into 2.2. (or is it?) Clarification and corrections are appreciated. potato and woody are just code names. The actual unstable is bleeding edge, and frozen is the next release. Currently potato is frozen (a la Debian 2.2) and woody is the new unstable. Sooner or later potato will release and become unstable...then some time down the road woody will freeze and become frozen...and the whole cycle starts again (but something else will be the new unstable, not sure of the code name though). Buzz perhaps? :) Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: How do you remove files with bad/wierd names
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 10:14:19PM -0500, Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: I was wondering how to remove a file by the name of --help.tgz? (Don't ask...Okay if you really must know, I typed in tgz --help and I get that file. There's no man page for tgz, and I think tgz shouldn't accept things starting with -- as file names...) rm always takes it as an option, even if quotes, double-quoted, backslashed, regular-expressioned. Any suggestions? I don't think tgz is generally called directly. You probably want to use 'tar -czf mydir.tgz mydir/'. Anyway, from the rm manpage: GNU rm, like every program that uses the getopt function to parse its arguments, lets you use the -- option to indicate that all following arguments are non-options. To remove a file called `-f' in the current directory, you could type either rm -- -f or rm ./-f The Unix rm program's use of a single `-' for this purpose predates the development of the getopt standard syntax. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: glibc-compat ???
On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 02:42:26AM -0300, Taupter wrote: Strange. If i can remember, Slink has libc5 compatibility libs. Why not glibc2.0 compatibility libs for potato, as RH-based distros have? They're both libc 6.0 -- how would ld.so know which one you wanted? Any apps which run on 6.0 and not 6.1 are broken and should be fixed. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you remove files with bad/wierd names
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 10:14:19PM -0500, Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: I was wondering how to remove a file by the name of --help.tgz? (Don't ask...Okay if you really must know, I typed in tgz --help and I get that file. There's no man page for tgz, and I think tgz shouldn't accept things starting with -- as file names...) rm always takes it as an option, even if quotes, double-quoted, backslashed, regular-expressioned. Any suggestions? like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ touch -- --help [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ ls -l total 0 -rw-r-1 eb eb 0 Mar 22 21:40 --help [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ rm -- --help [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ ls -l total 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
Re: How do you remove files with bad/wierd names
On a similar note, avoid naming files -v or -r those are real pains. A friend of mine had to write system code to delete them... If he still has it sitting around, I'll pass it on. Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: I was wondering how to remove a file by the name of --help.tgz? (Don't ask...Okay if you really must know, I typed in tgz --help and I get that file. There's no man page for tgz, and I think tgz shouldn't accept things starting with -- as file names...) rm always takes it as an option, even if quotes, double-quoted, backslashed, regular-expressioned. Any suggestions? Marshal -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Replacing system hard drive?
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Jerry E. McGoveran wrote: My hard drive is starting to make noise, so I bought a replacement. What is the recommended way to make the switch? Symantec Norton Ghost. http://www.ghost.com/ -- Hecubus
Re: I Screwed up WindowMaker
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Matheson wrote: I just upgraded WindowMaker on my slink from http://www.debian.org/~vincent/, but now it doesn't work. When I start X Windows, it starts to display the appicon and stuff, but then it goes back to the login screen. My recommendation is to install the wmaker package from the frozen directory. -- Hecubus
Re: How do you remove files with bad/wierd names
In this specific case: rm -- --help ...should do the trick. The null argument -- signifies to most utilities that the remaining arguments are to be interpreted as arguments and not options. Other helpful hints: - List the file by inode, find and remove the inode: touch -- --help ls -i find . -inum `ls -i|grep -- '--help'|awk '{print $1}'` -exec rm {}\; - Most strange characters can be dealt with by quoting. The above inode approach is a good trick to know though. On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 10:14:19PM -0500, Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: I was wondering how to remove a file by the name of --help.tgz? (Don't ask...Okay if you really must know, I typed in tgz --help and I get that file. There's no man page for tgz, and I think tgz shouldn't accept things starting with -- as file names...) rm always takes it as an option, even if quotes, double-quoted, backslashed, regular-expressioned. Any suggestions? Marshal -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Scope out Scoop: http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/ Nothin' rusty about Kuro5hin: http://www.kuro5hin.org/
Re: Replacing system hard drive?
This assumes a spare bay and/or connector. And a rescue and/or boot disk. Install the new hard drive. Partition it as desired. If you're happy with your current partitioning scheme, use that, if not modify it in the direction you wish you'd done it initially. Partitioning is a religious topic. I generally prefer seperating /, /tmp, /var, /usr, /home, and /usr/local. Check for bad blocks. Use the write test. It will be more difficult to do this later. Create new filesystems. Mount each to some temporary mount point. Copy the intended contents to the new partition. It's generally useful to have your system in single-user mode at this point, with most partitions mounted read-only. As you copy contents from the old partition to new, you can umount the old partition, edit your /etc/fstab file to reflect the change, and issue mount /new/mountpoint ...to mount the new partition. You won't be able to remount your root partition on an active system, a shutdown is necessary. I'm not sure you can update the LILO information properly -- if you're going to be reconfiguring your SCSI IDs, you may need to re-run LILO following final drive configuration. Give it a shot, edit /etc/lilo.conf to indicate your new (as of next boot) drive configuration. Confirm you've got everything from your old drive to the new one. Shut down the system. Disconnect the old drive. Boot your system. If it works, congrats. You can now shut down, remove your old harddrive, and use it in target practice. If the system doesn't boot correctly, with messages indicating inability to find the root FS or init, boot your rescue disk, and modify your LILO conf appropriately. If that doesn't work, write back from your *other* working system :-) On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 11:09:45AM -0800, Jerry E. McGoveran wrote: My hard drive is starting to make noise, so I bought a replacement. What is the recommended way to make the switch? All my Linux partitions are on this disk except the swap partition. My Win95 OS is on a separate drive. This is a SCSI disk running 2.0.35 if that makes any difference. Regards, Jerry Certus Consulting Group | Specializing in Integrated Circuit Antioch, CA 94509 | Design and Verification, Logic (925)757-0685 (925)777-1964 (fax) | Synthesis, Fault Grading, Test http://www.certus.com | Development and Project Management -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Scope out Scoop: http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/ Nothin' rusty about Kuro5hin: http://www.kuro5hin.org/
Re: Time taken by a script
Ron is rights, but you can get an idea when you do prepend the time command like: time script It gives you a few stats. Regards, Onno At 06:19 AM 3/23/00 +, Debian Linux User wrote: Ron Rademaker wrote: I've written a cgi script in perl an I would like to know how long (exactly, 10th of second) it takes to execute the script, how can I do this? Ron -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Since Perl is an interpreted language, there are no assurances as to how long it will take to run your script, because it highly dependent on how Perl decides to process your instructions. CGI scripts typically are under their own process anyhow, so it also depends on when the OS decides to schedule your script for execution. Since Linux is not a Real Time OS there are no assurances on either front. The point being that you can get a pretty good average (down to a tenth of a second) in testing, but execution time may widly vary under a heavy system load. Solution: Average time under a heavy load and feel comfortable with an average. Justin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: A little bad press about Debian
Ultimately, it's the similarity between FreeBSD and Linux that's confusing you, not really the differences. Good quote candidate... Regards, Onno
Unable to bind port??
I Installed debian Frozen the other day using the base floppies ans downloading the rest. I chose the profiles I wanted, and the install went fine. Then the problems startedgnome was so slow it took at least 5 minutes to start and 3 minutes for any program to start. Then I used apt to install blackbox and it worked fine. I have plenty of memory and gnome has always worked fine with slackware, so I don't know what the problem is. Also, I used apt to install some other programs, pan and gaim, and whn i try to start them it said unable to bind port where x was some numbers I can't recall. After this, i reformatted my hadr disk and reinstalled, and had the same problems. Can anyone help me??? Thanks, Mike
Re: 2 networks
Dear George, Would you be so kind to send me more info on your statement? Sincerely. Onno At 10:25 PM 3/22/00 -0800, George Bonser wrote: For two months T1 payment you can get wireless at T1 speed that will work over that distance with no problem. On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Evan Moore wrote: currently i have 2 networks, in 2 seperate buildings within 1000m. Both networks have an internet connection(A T1 and a fractional T1); however, I have lost the budjet for one of the internet connections. Is there a way to create a point to point link between the network, that is low cost, and has no monthly lease charge? Can 2 isdn modems directly dial eachother? Evan Moore
mutt and Turkish
Hi all, Does anyone know of instructions in ENGLISH on how to make Turkish fonts display in mutt? All I can find are things in Turkish that I just don't have enough grasp of the language to understand. -- Patrick Kirk Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy until you can find a rock.
how to upgrade from kerneld to kmod?
Greetings!, When I boot up, I get a warning message that kerneld is obsolete and I should use kmod instead, if I was using kernel 2.2.x.(I am using 2.2.x) I would like to know how I can accomplish this upgrade. thank you. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Scanning emails for viruses (exim)
Can anybody help me to use exim to filter incoming emails for viruses, using a virus scanning package such as McAffee's VirusScan? Any success stories, or alternative techniques, would be helpful - I'm still at the how should I go about this, and what should I get hold of? stage. I've seen the question/answer in the exim FAQ[1], but haven't the first idea about what ought to go in the script it mentions. Thanks. [1] http://www.exim.org/FAQ.html#SEC182 -- Graham Ashton
Re: Limping and bleeding with Corel Linux
Val Dokuzovic wrote: found out that I can not install it on my laptop. ... Turned to my sons old PC NEC Ready 60 Which laptop do you have? what leads you to the conclusion that you can not install linux on your laptop? In my experience, very few laptops actually entirely resist installation of linux. I've done it on a IBM TP365X, which is a quite bitchy machine... You can probably get help at the debian-laptop-mailing-list. I installed one copy of linux to my C: drive and one to my D: drive. The idea was that if I manage to get one crashed I will simply use the other one, (maybe try to fix the first one with it - remember I do not really know a lot?) My principal copy was on C: drive. My backup is on D: drive. I got them both running reasonable well. I had only one problem left: RAM. I have 104M, and machine thought I had 64M. This is where append=mem=104M in etc/lilo.conf became an option to try. Last time I tried it I got a bad crash from which could not recover. (That was what gave me the idea of the two copies). This time I tried it on my backup copy. It did work as far as RAM but boy am I in a mess now. I can not get my C: copy to run. D: copy I can barely get to too. It is now for some reason my first suggested choice and my C: ... If you specify the amount of ram reported by the bios, you will probably get an error like the one you're describing. You need to specify the amount available to linux, after the kernel has taken what it needs. Try specifying 4-8 Mb less than the actual amount, and you should be fine. (Some of the gurus can probably give you a more in-depth explanation...) With all the trouble I went through (and all I still probably will go through) I am becoming more and more attached to linux, as I slowly learn its intricacies. But a thought went through my mind. Linux is supposed to be a free software. Is Debian really free? Is it free if only programming elite can use it? Or are we mousemen really retarded now after prolonged use of windows? Attached are my messy etc/lilo.conf files. One with root at dev/hda2 is my C: copy. Please help. I do not dare to do anything on my own anymore. If any debian expert lives in Toronto area I am willing to pay him to get my mlinux machine in a perfect order. Thank you for help. Val. Why don't you try a straightforward Debian install? I did my first install half a year ago, and except for a bitchy on-board sreen-card, it went completely smooth. Later when I put in more ram, someone at the list was able to inform me that I had to specify slightly less than actually installed. That was it!. You shouldn't need to have a dual install; I suggest you use a rescue-disk instead of confusing you (and the system) with having two installs... About your free-remarks: I was a 'doze-handicapped average user ½yr ago. I think you're right: you will be retarded after prolonged use of windows; but you don't have to be a geek to run linux. Please be very specific when reporting errors, try to give errormessages, and describe what happened before the crashes. BTW, you (or your hardware) must be doing some high-quality strangeness: Linux (almost) never crashes. I've had one crash in 6 months; when the cable to my /hdd (/usr) worked itself loose... Please: you gotta dare. You'll love it, once it's running. hth Vitux -- Death comes to us in various guises, swiftly changing as a baby's mood... Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free Zone
Updated Kernel and KDE
Hi! I have download the floppies from ftp.us.debian.org and installed a basic debian linux (potato) box, and now I want to complete thesystem and have following questions: (1) updated the kernel to (official release 2.2.14) which packages do I need? (2) I can't found the KDE packages in .deb format at ftp.us.debian.org, does the KDE supported by debian? Thanks
Re: Replacing system hard drive?
Hi, put a new drive (same size or biger) in your system. the new drive must only be low-level formatet (adapter-bios function). Then start your linux-system and make $ dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1024 or similar In assumption sda is your old and sdb your new drive. It's tested with linux, Nt 4.0 and Win95 from 9Gig Micropolis to 9Gig IBM (a little biger) and run very fine. But i'm not shure that bs=1024 the best choice. It's possible you waste some time. good luck Peter PS: excuse my terrible english On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Jerry E. McGoveran wrote: My hard drive is starting to make noise, so I bought a replacement. What is the recommended way to make the switch? All my Linux partitions are on this disk except the swap partition. My Win95 OS is on a separate drive. This is a SCSI disk running 2.0.35 if that makes any difference. Regards, Jerry Certus Consulting Group | Specializing in Integrated Circuit Antioch, CA 94509 | Design and Verification, Logic (925)757-0685 (925)777-1964 (fax) | Synthesis, Fault Grading, Test http://www.certus.com | Development and Project Management -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Updated Kernel and KDE
Hi! I have download the floppies from ftp.us.debian.org and installed a basic debian linux (potato) box , and now I want to complete the system and have following questions: (1) updated the kernel to (official release 2.2.14) which packages do I need ? (2) I can't found the KDE packages in .deb format at ftp.us.debian.org, does the KDE supported by debian? Thanks
System map doesn't match kernel data
I get the following error on boot: parport_enumerate} {parport_enumerate_R2gig_8ccc39f1} Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.14 does not match kernel data. But when I look in my messages log, what's below is the only thing I see and I can't find the above error in any of my logs. (I might mention my printer is working fine). Mar 23 11:02:54 debian kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.2.14 Mar 23 11:02:55 debian kernel: Loaded 7273 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.2.14. Mar 23 11:02:55 debian kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.14. This just started showing up after the last couple of kernel builds. I ran /sbin/lilo, which I thought wrote a new system.map. How could it write a new map that doesn't match the kernel that's currently loaded? Does anyone know how I can fix this (it has been causing some problems)? Thanks, Steve
Re: Updated Kernel and KDE
Hi, here´s some answers :) (1) updated the kernel to (official release 2.2.14) which packages do I need ? Well, to start off with, you can dowload the kernel-source2.2.14.tgz from http://www.kernel.org/ Once you have this file, place into /usr/src and with tar zxvf kernel-source2.2.14.tgz you will extract all the files into a folder called kernel-source2.2.14. You need to go into that directory, execute make menuconfig and configure your new kernel. Once you have configured it, execute make dep then make clean then make zImage then make modules and finally make modules_install. If while making the zImage part, it says that its to big, then try make bzImage followed by the make modules and make modules_install command. Once all has finished, you need to go into /usr/src/kernel-source2.2.14/arch/i386/boot and copy the zImage file to the /boot directory. Once done, cd to / and do ln -s /boot/zImage kernel2.2.14. Then you need to go into /etc and edit lilo.conf. You will see at the bottom: image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only All you need to do is put almost the same 3 lines above this, having the following : image=/kernel2.2.14 label=Linux read-only image=/vmlinuz label=Linux.old read-only And once you have completed this part, save the config, and execute lilo it will show the following: Added: Linux * Linux.old (* being the default to execute at boot time.) Now you can reboot the system, and it will boot your new kernel. IF it goes wrong, and get a nice kernel panic :) then all you need to when booting the computer is type Linux.old at the LILO: boot prompt (2) I can't found the KDE packages in .deb format at ftp.us.debian.org, does the KDE supported by debian? Nope, unfortunatly the KDE packages a re not in the debian distribution, so you would have to download these packages manually from http://www.kde.org If you have any questions or problems, I`m open ! Much Respect -- - Neil D. Roberts ; Administrador De Sistemas; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lander World Communications Server S.L. / Integra España S.A. Calle Rufino Gonzalez, Nº15 - 4ª Planta, Madrid, España 28037 Telefonos : 917.897.710 ; 902.363.363 Fax : 913.042.044 Mensatel Beeper: Nº 940.331.331 ; Codigo Del Cliente : #NR10 PGP Print: 6228 6EEE C604 431A 70A9 84B7 E327 9CAF E59A 2709 - Gone crazy, be back later, leave message.
Re: Updated Kernel and KDE
Alex == Alex Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! I have download the floppies from ftp.us.debian.org and installed a basic debian linux (potato) box , and now I want to complete the system and have following questions: (1) updated the kernel to (official release 2.2.14) which packages do I need ? Since you're using potato, you can just use dselect to get and install kernel-image-2.2.14 (or something like that. dselect should handle all the dependancies (2) I can't found the KDE packages in .deb format at ftp.us.debian.org, does the KDE supported by debian? Check out kde.tdyc.com for info on getting debian packages of KDE. Marshal Thanks -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Updated Kernel and KDE
Excuse me, for a kernel compilation I think it's better to use after 'make menuconfig' (or 'make xconfig') to use 'make-kpkg' (make a .deb package of kernel). For docs see /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz (if the lacation is the same of slink (2.1). (After 'make menuconfig' usually I edit Makefile and change the options -O2 in -O3 in two lines: if possible why don't use in a good mode GCC?) For KDE it's difficult because I know there are many license problems (it is'nt GPL). You must search a site that contain deb packages of KDE 1.1.2. Have a good day. Beppe. On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Neil D. Roberts wrote: Hi, here´s some answers :) (1) updated the kernel to (official release 2.2.14) which packages do I need ? Well, to start off with, you can dowload the kernel-source2.2.14.tgz from http://www.kernel.org/ Once you have this file, place into /usr/src and with tar zxvf kernel-source2.2.14.tgz you will extract all the files into a folder called kernel-source2.2.14. You need to go into that directory, execute make menuconfig and configure your new kernel. Once you have configured it, execute make dep then make clean then make zImage then make modules and finally make modules_install. If while making the zImage part, it says that its to big, then try make bzImage followed by the make modules and make modules_install command. Once all has finished, you need to go into /usr/src/kernel-source2.2.14/arch/i386/boot and copy the zImage file to the /boot directory. Once done, cd to / and do ln -s /boot/zImage kernel2.2.14. Then you need to go into /etc and edit lilo.conf. You will see at the bottom: image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only All you need to do is put almost the same 3 lines above this, having the following : image=/kernel2.2.14 label=Linux read-only image=/vmlinuz label=Linux.old read-only And once you have completed this part, save the config, and execute lilo it will show the following: Added: Linux * Linux.old (* being the default to execute at boot time.) Now you can reboot the system, and it will boot your new kernel. IF it goes wrong, and get a nice kernel panic :) then all you need to when booting the computer is type Linux.old at the LILO: boot prompt (2) I can't found the KDE packages in .deb format at ftp.us.debian.org, does the KDE supported by debian? Nope, unfortunatly the KDE packages a re not in the debian distribution, so you would have to download these packages manually from http://www.kde.org If you have any questions or problems, I`m open ! Much Respect -- - Neil D. Roberts ; Administrador De Sistemas; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lander World Communications Server S.L. / Integra España S.A. Calle Rufino Gonzalez, Nº15 - 4ª Planta, Madrid, España 28037 Telefonos : 917.897.710 ; 902.363.363 Fax : 913.042.044 Mensatel Beeper: Nº 940.331.331 ; Codigo Del Cliente : #NR10 PGP Print: 6228 6EEE C604 431A 70A9 84B7 E327 9CAF E59A 2709 - Gone crazy, be back later, leave message. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Which MTA to use?
Greetings, I am looking at changing an in-house e-mail system from an ugly combination of outsourced collection/forwarding and JSMail on an NT server to linux. We have an ADSL line coming in, and I can handle all of the DNS and network stuff through the firewall, but I drop the ball at mail. We have about 100 clients using Microsoft Outlook, but our legacy address format is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't change the address format, and I'd like to leave POP3 in place. Which MTA is the best given my limitation? Thanks, Brooks
Newbie: Install problems (pre-depend-error, python)
I tried to install debian (potato, from march 13th) for the first time and have two problems: I already have a small running system, and wanted to add several packages at once. Dselect says the following and refuses to install: pre-depend Error .. fix it and run [I]nstall again But it doesn't tell me which package is making trouble. I can't install python-base because dblib1.8 is not available. (There is a package called dblib1 and dblib2, but none which is called dblib1.8) Can anyone help me, or tell me where i can find help? Thomas Guettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mypage.org/guettli
Re: Debian
Marshal writes: I think the no support part is more of a no OFFICIAL support. debian-user is quite official. I think that they mean that there is no paid support. They're wrong: while support from Debian itself is only available free there are many who sell Debian support. Check www.debian.org. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Difference between woody and potato
Phoenix writes: 2.2 is potato... No. 2.2 will be potato when it is released. 2.2 does not exist yet. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
bad dependencies in postgresql (potato)?
i'm trying to install postgresql in a potato box, however, the configuration script bombs out with a message concerning the non-existence of the file '/etc/timezone'. is that a missing package? or is it something that got replaced somewhere in the way to the current version? how can i set it up so i can install postgresql? TIA Alberto