Mail

2000-05-31 Thread Rodolfo García
Saludos.

Este es un problema que el otro dia me dijeron como plantearlo, pero me quedan 
dudas y veo problemas. La idea es bajar el correo a un ordenador sobremesa y 
desde ahi pillarlo con un portatil a traves de una red, el correo se lee en el 
portatil y se escribe, cuando el portatil se reconecta a la red manda los mails 
y se actualiza el correo del sobremesa. Hasta ahi todo parece bien, supongo que 
el correo debo bajarlo con fetchmail de mi proveedor, desde ahi si no lo filtro 
con procmail puedo bajarlo al portatil a traves de pop, y si lo filtro puedo 
bajarlo con ftp, y luego filtrarlo en el portatil. Supongo que luego lo escribo 
y lo mando, para eso el portatil tiene sendmail y el sobremesa le puede hacer 
de relay para vaciar las colas, y lo actualizo de alguna forma, supongo con 
rsync, como me dijo Barahona, pero no lo tengo muy claro. El problema gordo 
biene por que el portatil tiene unos 50 mb libres para el mail, y sin embargo 
soy una persona que le gusta guardar algunos mensajes, bueno en general 
muchisimos, con lo cual umm, si utilizo el metodo anterior, el portatil tendria 
el mismo mail que el sobremesa, y realmente solo quiero tener unas pocas 
carpetas (unas 8 de todas las que tengo). Alguna idea más? Tengo que eliminar 
las carpetas Gordas del directorio del mail? que hago :?

Un saludo y gracias por leer este plomo-mail.
-- 
___
  ___   ___   ___
|  | /  /  /  / \/  /
|  |/  /  /  /\  \  /  /
|  /  /  /  /  \  \/  /Rodolfo García Peñas
|  \  \ /  /   /  /\  \[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  |\  \  /   /  /  \  \   http://www.hispalinux.es/~kix
|  | \  \/   /  /\  \
The Face of Your NightMare

Register Linux User 62951. Powered by Debian 2.2
Kernel 2.2.14 - The love is now in my blood -
She changed me, now I am not a machine, I can feel



error en cron?

2000-05-31 Thread Toni S

Hola a todos

acabo de instalar el paquete cron para poder dejas tareas programadas.
pero al ejecutar cron me aparece el mensaje:
cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 194: Resource 
temporarily unavailab

le

y no lo entiendo, porque el daemon del cron se activa al inicio 
correctamente.


Gracias




problemas con correo

2000-05-31 Thread Juanma
Estimados amigos:

El problema que tengo deviene de una instalación en red con varios puestos
en Windows conectados a un servidor samba con apache y con el sendmail.

Resulta en que se empeñan en hacer un servicio de correo interno con el
outlook y que sea el servidor quien se encargue de repartir el correo.

Le coloco en las opciones de la cuenta el nombre del [EMAIL PROTECTED] del host
y recibe correo pero no puede enviarlo porque no encuentra el host.

En el protocolo smtp le pongo el nombre (debian.despacho) e  incluso hasta
la IP del servidor (192.168.1.1)pero nada.

La verdad es que el sendmail está con su configuración por defecto (el que
venía con la slink) y no me atrevo a tocarlo.

¿podriais ayudarme?

Gracias infinitas por adelantado


Juanma




RE: problemas con correo

2000-05-31 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
 Estimados amigos:

 El problema que tengo deviene de una instalación en red con varios puestos
 en Windows conectados a un servidor samba con apache y con el sendmail.

 Resulta en que se empeñan en hacer un servicio de correo interno con el
 outlook y que sea el servidor quien se encargue de repartir el correo.

 Le coloco en las opciones de la cuenta el nombre del
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] del host
 y recibe correo pero no puede enviarlo porque no encuentra el host.

 En el protocolo smtp le pongo el nombre (debian.despacho) e  incluso hasta
 la IP del servidor (192.168.1.1)pero nada.

 La verdad es que el sendmail está con su configuración por defecto (el que
 venía con la slink) y no me atrevo a tocarlo.


¿El error exacto es por no poder encontrar el host, o por no estar
autorizado el usuario para hacer relay?

Yo tuve que ir poniendo en el fichero relay-domains, las direcciones IP de
los PC's que enviaban correo, de otra manera, no permitia enviar correo.

Saludos.



Re: Mail

2000-05-31 Thread Jose L. Fernandez Jambrina
Hola,
Dos comentarios:

1. Si en vez de recoger el correo del ordenador de sobremesa con pop
utilizaras IMAP, podrías tener directorios  con el correo en ambos
ordenadores y copiarlas de uno a otro. Yo lo hago con el paquete imap de
slink y netscape en el otro lado.

2. Para enviar el correo puedes tener sendmail u otro programa, te
recomiendo 'otro programa' por sencillez, en ambos ordenadores. Cuando
conectes el portátil puedes enviar el correo utilizando 'sendmail -q',
si usas exim sería simplemente 'runq'. Puedes enviar el correo
directamente a su destino, pero te recomiendo que, como tu mismo
propones, lo envíes al ordenador de sobremesa o a otro que tenga
conexión permanente. En el ordenador de sobremesa tienes que tener un
sendmail o programa equivalente bien configurado, para que acepte hacer
relé del correo de tu portátil, y el mismo se encargará de la
distribución.

Resumen: No te hace falta rsync para nada y, dados tus temores con
respecto al espacio en disco, te recomiendo IMAP para recoger el correo
de entrada.

Un saludo

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rodolfo_Garc=EDa?= escribió:
 
 Saludos.
 
 Este es un problema que el otro dia me dijeron como plantearlo, pero me 
 quedan dudas y veo problemas. La idea es bajar el correo a un ordenador 
 sobremesa y desde ahi pillarlo con un portatil a traves de una red, el correo 
 se lee en el portatil y se escribe, cuando el portatil se reconecta a la red 
 manda los mails y se actualiza el correo del sobremesa. Hasta ahi todo parece 
 bien, supongo que el correo debo bajarlo con fetchmail de mi proveedor, desde 
 ahi si no lo filtro con procmail puedo bajarlo al portatil a traves de pop, y 
 si lo filtro puedo bajarlo con ftp, y luego filtrarlo en el portatil. Supongo 
 que luego lo escribo y lo mando, para eso el portatil tiene sendmail y el 
 sobremesa le puede hacer de relay para vaciar las colas, y lo actualizo de 
 alguna forma, supongo con rsync, como me dijo Barahona, pero no lo tengo muy 
 claro. El problema gordo biene por que el portatil tiene unos 50 mb libres 
 para el mail, y sin embargo soy una persona que le gusta guardar algunos 
 mensajes,
 bueno en general muchisimos, con lo cual umm, si utilizo el metodo anterior, 
 el portatil tendria el mismo mail que el sobremesa, y realmente solo quiero 
 tener unas pocas carpetas (unas 8 de todas las que tengo). Alguna idea más? 
 Tengo que eliminar las carpetas Gordas del directorio del mail? que hago :?
 
 Un saludo y gracias por leer este plomo-mail.
 --
 ___
   ___   ___   ___
 |  | /  /  /  / \/  /
 |  |/  /  /  /\  \  /  /
 |  /  /  /  /  \  \/  /Rodolfo García Peñas
 |  \  \ /  /   /  /\  \[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  |\  \  /   /  /  \  \   http://www.hispalinux.es/~kix
 |  | \  \/   /  /\  \
 The Face of Your NightMare
 
 Register Linux User 62951. Powered by Debian 2.2
 Kernel 2.2.14 - The love is now in my blood -
 She changed me, now I am not a machine, I can feel
 
 --
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null



RE: problemas con correo

2000-05-31 Thread Juanma
Pues creo (no estoy seguro) que era que no encontraba el host.
De todas formas cuando vaya al despacho miraré ese archivo y a ver que dice.

No se si sirve para algo, pero el correo al exterior funciona correctamente
cuando nos conectamos a internet. Bueno quizás sea una bobada porque no creo
que el sendmail tenga que ver ebn esto último.

Muchas gracias

juanma
-Mensaje original-
De: Angel Vicente Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Juanma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: miércoles, 31 de mayo de 2000 13:10 Isabel
Asunto: RE: problemas con correo


 Estimados amigos:

 El problema que tengo deviene de una instalación en red con varios
puestos
 en Windows conectados a un servidor samba con apache y con el sendmail.

 Resulta en que se empeñan en hacer un servicio de correo interno con el
 outlook y que sea el servidor quien se encargue de repartir el correo.

 Le coloco en las opciones de la cuenta el nombre del
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] del host
 y recibe correo pero no puede enviarlo porque no encuentra el host.

 En el protocolo smtp le pongo el nombre (debian.despacho) e  incluso
hasta
 la IP del servidor (192.168.1.1)pero nada.

 La verdad es que el sendmail está con su configuración por defecto (el
que
 venía con la slink) y no me atrevo a tocarlo.


¿El error exacto es por no poder encontrar el host, o por no estar
autorizado el usuario para hacer relay?

Yo tuve que ir poniendo en el fichero relay-domains, las direcciones IP de
los PC's que enviaban correo, de otra manera, no permitia enviar correo.

Saludos.


--
Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null




Re: openmotif

2000-05-31 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 07:15:39PM +0200, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona wrote:
 
   Hay más de uno que opina además que por ejemplo Gtk es mucho
 mejor que Motif, y que Lesstiff está mejor escrito que Motif... Pero
 seguro que esto son opiniones...

Si no dije eso supongo que es porque lo doy por supuesto :)

También creo que mi opinión sobre Motif ha estado siempre negativamente
condicionada por su 'non-freeness' y porque lo relaciono a bus error. Se
que Motif no tiene la culpa, pero inconscientemente he ido haciendo esa
relación :)

-- 
Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom,
ka Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]  || Using Debian GNU/Linux

http://sindominio.net  GnuPG public information:  pub  1024D/917A225E 
telnet pusa.uv.es 23   73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC  2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E


pgpYQday2s2Pl.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Paquetes inconsistentes

2000-05-31 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 05:25:35PM +0100, David wrote:
 Hola, pues eso, que apt-get me dice que tengo tres paquetes que debería
 reinstalarlos pero no hay forma de hacerlo.
 Los mensajes de error dicen así: ( lo digo de memoria ) Que no puede
 editar el archivo info-install. Y sale con exit(1).
 Los paquetes son: bash, tetex-base, tetex-bin.

 P.D.: si necesitáis mas información decidlo.

Que has hecho hasta ahora para intentar actualizar? Instalar apt-get y qué
más?

-- 
Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom,
ka Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]  || Using Debian GNU/Linux

http://sindominio.net  GnuPG public information:  pub  1024D/917A225E 
telnet pusa.uv.es 23   73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC  2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E


pgpO5ijtP0FDG.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: servidor ppp ?

2000-05-31 Thread Jose Luis Trivino
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gracias por tu respueta.
 No se a que options te refieres en la compilacion del kernel, yo
 compile el kernel2.2.14 con make menuconfig
 para incorporar el servicio ppp solo marque como modulo la opc de
 ppp (point - to - point ) support de la seccion Network device
 support.
Hola,
Concretamente la opción está en el menú 'Network Options' y
se llama 'IP: forwarding/gateway'. En estos momentos la
tengo delante. Sin embargo, en un kernel más reciente la he
mirado y no aparece.
En el kernel antiguo esta opción había que activarla para
que el servidor ppp encaminara correctamente los paquetes
entre el cliente ppp y el resto de la red. Sin esta opción,
el servidor veía perfectamente toda la red, pero el cliente
sólo podía ver al servidor.

En el kernel nuevo lo único que veo parecido es la opción
'IP: advanced router'. Quizás esto te sirva. Prueba a
instalarla y recompilar el kernel. Siento no poder ayudarte
más pero hace tiempo que no instalo servidores ppp y al
parecer los kernel han cambiado.

Hasta más bits,

-- 
---
Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez

http://alcor.lcc.uma.es/~trivino
Usuario registrado de linux nº 53043
---

La medida de programar es programar sin medida



Clipper en GNU/Linux

2000-05-31 Thread Camilo Alejandro Arboleda
Hola:

Tengo un cliente que quiere migrar de plataforma (Windows - GNU/Linux),
pero tiene una gran cantidad de aplicaciones en clipper. Alguien sabe si
existe forma de portarlas a Linux? No importa si el programa es
comercial.

Gracias,

Camilo Alejandro.
-- 
* De simio la conoci y he visto hombres que la añoran.
* En lo que a mi se refiere, ni entonces ni ahora
* perdi mi libertad.
  Informe para una academia. Franz Kafka



Re: Clipper en GNU/Linux

2000-05-31 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a


Umm... supongo que los datos sí se pueden portar (ficheros dbf no?)
pero no conozco nada para mirar la aplicación en sí (el código fuente,
claro). Como solución intermedia, si es el Clipper
de MS-DOS seguramente le funcione en el emulador de MS-DOS. ¿Lo has probado?

Un saludo

Javi

PD: Mirando un poco en altavista (clipper+linux) veo que en
hay un compilador de Xbase para Linux en http://x2c.dtop.com/
y que tienes muchas utilidades GPL para Clipper en
http://www.the-oasis.net/

On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 09:24:30AM -0500, Camilo Alejandro Arboleda wrote:
 Hola:
 
 Tengo un cliente que quiere migrar de plataforma (Windows - GNU/Linux),
 pero tiene una gran cantidad de aplicaciones en clipper. Alguien sabe si
 existe forma de portarlas a Linux? No importa si el programa es
 comercial.
 
 Gracias,
 
 Camilo Alejandro.
 -- 
 * De simio la conoci y he visto hombres que la añoran.
 * En lo que a mi se refiere, ni entonces ni ahora
 * perdi mi libertad.
   Informe para una academia. Franz Kafka
 
 
 --  
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
 



Re: Clipper en GNU/Linux

2000-05-31 Thread eloy
On Wed, 31 May 2000, Camilo Alejandro Arboleda wrote:

 Hola:
 
 Tengo un cliente que quiere migrar de plataforma (Windows - GNU/Linux),
 pero tiene una gran cantidad de aplicaciones en clipper. Alguien sabe si
 existe forma de portarlas a Linux? No importa si el programa es
 comercial.
 

Existe. Se llama Flagship. Es comercial (creo) pero dan una
versión de evaluación (creo también ;-). He oído que la migración de
aplicaciones Clipper es suave como la seda.

Tienes más información en... (espera que busque en Freshmeat...)

http://www.fship.com

Suerte. Espero que te sirva. Si la cosa va bien, no olvides
publicitarlo a los cuatro vientos, que las buenas experiencias con Linux
son para compartirlas.

-- Eloy
_
 Eloy Rafael Sanz Tapia -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
-- http://www.uco.es/~ma1satae --
--- GPG ID: 190169A0 / finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Córdoba _ España ___ Debian 2.1 GNU/Linux 2.2.14 rabinf50



Urgente+smartlist

2000-05-31 Thread Sorribes juan
Hola  a todos, espero que alguien me pueda ayudar...:)
Alguien sabe como configurar el smartlint para restringir que cualquiera
pueda enviar mail a una lista.
Configuro el accept con la direccin de mail que quiero que solamente pueda
enviar mail a la lista y dentro del rc.init y rc.custon donde dice
foreing_submit pongo  =   no (foreing_submit  =  no). Pero igualmente sigue
aceptado mails de cualquier direccion.

Muchas gracias a todos

Atentamente:
 Juan Sorribes
ICQ 14079078



Pedido de ajuda supra 33.6i V+

2000-05-31 Thread Mário Silva



Tenho um modem supra 33.6i V+ que comprei usado mas 
não tenho drivers (no tiengo los drivers)- Me pudes enviar un mail con los 
drivers ?

Gracias

Mário

Portugal


Prgunta sobre sector de arranque

2000-05-31 Thread Mauricio E Ruiz Font

Disculpen aunque esta sea una pregunta sobre windogs tiene que ver con
linbux, bien es sabido que win 9x instala en el sector de arranque del
disco duro, ahora, me gustaria saber si hay alguna forma de copiar los
secores de arranque con el conmando que se hacen las imagenes de discos de
arranque dd, por que necesito clonar unos disco duros.

--
Mauricio Enrique Ruiz Font
UG FAMAT Computacion



Paquetes sugeridos que deberían ser exigidos

2000-05-31 Thread Jaime E. Villate
Esto es sobre todo un desahogo y un consejo, pués ya he discutido con
los responsables sin ningún éxito.
La situación es la siguiente: con varios paquetes me ha pasado que no me
funcionan y después de seguirle la pista y leer documentación descubro
que me falta un paquete esencial, que no es exigido por el
desarrollador del paquete en debian, sino apenas sugerido.

Después de enviar un informe de error al desarrollador me contestan
siempre que el paquete aun es utilizable sin el otro paquete sugerido y
por eso no lo ponen como necesario (pero un usuario normal, usando el
método normal de trabajar con el programa tendrá problemas)

Me pasó por ejemplo con glade, que si tiene una versión antigua del
autoconf no deja compilar el resultado de un proyecto usando make (el
propio autor pone como requisito una determinada versión de autoconf y
automake que en debian son apenas sugerencias). Me pasó también con
python-imaging y con xmms que dejó de funcionar y me mataba la máquina
(ni siquiera el shutdown lograba matarlo ni desmontar la partición)
hasta que instalé el libmikmod2 que es sugerido.

La moraleja es: si teneis problemas con algún paquete que no funciona,
lo primero que hay que hacer es ver la lista de paquetes sugeridos e
instalarlos para ver si se soluciona el problema.

Espero que este consejo sea útil.
Jaime Villate



Re: Paquetes inconsistentes

2000-05-31 Thread David
Jordi Mallach wrote:

 Que has hecho hasta ahora para intentar actualizar? Instalar apt-get y qué
 más?
Primero hice: apt-get update
Luego hice: apt-get -f dist-upgrade

Pero aquí es donde se queda. Dice que necesita bajar X Mb. de archivos,
los baja, los intenta instalar y cuando intenta con les tres que dije en
el anterior mensaje aborta la actualización.

He intentado hacer un apt individual de cada uno de los tres archivos
pero da el mismo resultado.

Un saludo,

David

* * * Quitar sobra de la dirección para responderme * * *



Re: Paquetes sugeridos que deberían ser exigidos

2000-05-31 Thread Enzo A. Dari
Jaime E. Villate wrote:
 ...
 La situación es la siguiente: con varios paquetes me ha pasado que no me
 funcionan y después de seguirle la pista y leer documentación descubro
 que me falta un paquete esencial, que no es exigido por el
 desarrollador del paquete en debian, sino apenas sugerido.
 
 Después de enviar un informe de error al desarrollador me contestan
 siempre que el paquete aun es utilizable sin el otro paquete sugerido y
 por eso no lo ponen como necesario (pero un usuario normal, usando el
 método normal de trabajar con el programa tendrá problemas)
 ...
Me parece que los casos que mencionás estarían claramente en
la categoría de recomendados (Recommends), algo intermedio entre
sugeridos (Suggests) y exigidos (Depends o Pre-Depends).

Yo suelo instalar todos los recomendados y no siempre los sugeridos,
estoy en peligro ? :)

-- 
Saludos,
 O__
Enzo.,/
()=\()
Enzo A. Dari  |  Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche
8400-San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299
Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm



No se ejecuta ip-up

2000-05-31 Thread Lluís Vilanova
Bueno.. pues eso, que al hacer un pon loquesea no se lanza el script ip-up y
claro, tampoco se ejecuta el run parts (ni el ip-down al hacer poff)

Sabe alguien cual puede ser el problema? Uso Slink

Hasta mas leernos
---
El tonto es aquel que dice tonterias, aunque los hay que sin decirlas ya lo son.


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com



Re: Mail

2000-05-31 Thread Rodolfo García
Saludos,

Creo que me he explicado mal: 

Tengo un sobremesa, el cual esta conectado a internet por modem, ya sabeis, 
llamo, cuelgo :). Luego en casa tengo un portatil, que espero que cumpla esa 
función, sobre el cual, quiero bajar el correo, llevarmelo, administrarlo con 
mutt, no con netscape, más que nada por que me gusta mutt y por que el netscape 
quema muchos recursos, y mi portatil pues no los tiene. Así, bajo el correo al 
sobremesa y paso el correo al portatil por medio de la red local. corto la 
conexión del portatil y me lo llevo, me leo el correo por ahi, lo respondo, se 
queda en la cola del sendmail y cuando llego a casita, lo conecto a la red, le 
chisco el sendmail y me manda el correo. El problema es que para administrar el 
correo es necesario que esté en la maquina grande todo aquel que yo quiera, y 
en la pequeña solo el correo del dia, o los que yo deje ahi por alguna razon, 
de esta forma, tengo un 5% de mi mail en el portatil y un 95% en el sobremesa. 
El imap creo que es un protocolo para administrar correo remotamente, es muy 
bueno y cumple su función, pero, hace todo esto que yo tengo aqui 
planteado?? tendría el mail sincronizado?? perdería 15 minutos todos los dias 
mirando qeu mail muevo y cual no?? 

Si alguien ya ha conseguido hacerlo, y le funciona con sendmail + fetchmail + 
procmail + rsync, pues parece que se adecua más a lo que yo necesito, pero no 
se, a lo mejor me equivoco. Si me convences sigo palante, si no hace todo, pues 
:) alguien más tiene ideas?

Saludos y gracias.

PD. El problema de sendmail: no tengo ningun problema con él, llevo ya mucho 
tiempo usandolo y me va muy bien.


On mié, 31 may 2000, Jose L. Fernandez Jambrina escribió:

 Hola,
   Dos comentarios:
 
 1. Si en vez de recoger el correo del ordenador de sobremesa con pop
 utilizaras IMAP, podrías tener directorios  con el correo en ambos
 ordenadores y copiarlas de uno a otro. Yo lo hago con el paquete imap de
 slink y netscape en el otro lado.
 
 2. Para enviar el correo puedes tener sendmail u otro programa, te
 recomiendo 'otro programa' por sencillez, en ambos ordenadores. Cuando
 conectes el portátil puedes enviar el correo utilizando 'sendmail -q',
 si usas exim sería simplemente 'runq'. Puedes enviar el correo
 directamente a su destino, pero te recomiendo que, como tu mismo
 propones, lo envíes al ordenador de sobremesa o a otro que tenga
 conexión permanente. En el ordenador de sobremesa tienes que tener un
 sendmail o programa equivalente bien configurado, para que acepte hacer
 relé del correo de tu portátil, y el mismo se encargará de la
 distribución.
 
   Resumen: No te hace falta rsync para nada y, dados tus temores con
 respecto al espacio en disco, te recomiendo IMAP para recoger el correo
 de entrada.
 
   Un saludo
 
 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rodolfo_Garc=EDa?= escribió:
  
  Saludos.
  
  Este es un problema que el otro dia me dijeron como plantearlo, pero me 
  quedan dudas y veo problemas. La idea es bajar el correo a un ordenador 
  sobremesa y desde ahi pillarlo con un portatil a traves de una red, el 
  correo se lee en el portatil y se escribe, cuando el portatil se reconecta 
  a la red manda los mails y se actualiza el correo del sobremesa. Hasta ahi 
  todo parece bien, supongo que el correo debo bajarlo con fetchmail de mi 
  proveedor, desde ahi si no lo filtro con procmail puedo bajarlo al portatil 
  a traves de pop, y si lo filtro puedo bajarlo con ftp, y luego filtrarlo en 
  el portatil. Supongo que luego lo escribo y lo mando, para eso el portatil 
  tiene sendmail y el sobremesa le puede hacer de relay para vaciar las 
  colas, y lo actualizo de alguna forma, supongo con rsync, como me dijo 
  Barahona, pero no lo tengo muy claro. El problema gordo biene por que el 
  portatil tiene unos 50 mb libres para el mail, y sin embargo soy una 
  persona que le gusta guardar algunos mensajes,
  bueno en general muchisimos, con lo cual umm, si utilizo el metodo 
  anterior, el portatil tendria el mismo mail que el sobremesa, y realmente 
  solo quiero tener unas pocas carpetas (unas 8 de todas las que tengo). 
  Alguna idea más? Tengo que eliminar las carpetas Gordas del directorio 
  del mail? que hago :?
  
  Un saludo y gracias por leer este plomo-mail.
  --
  ___
    ___   ___   ___
  |  | /  /  /  / \/  /
  |  |/  /  /  /\  \  /  /
  |  /  /  /  /  \  \/  /Rodolfo García Peñas
  |  \  \ /  /   /  /\  \[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  |  |\  \  /   /  /  \  \   http://www.hispalinux.es/~kix
  |  | \  \/   /  /\  \
  The Face of Your NightMare
  
  Register Linux User 62951. Powered by Debian 2.2
  Kernel 2.2.14 - The love is now in my blood -
  She changed me, now I am not a machine, I can feel
  
  --
  Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null

-- 
___
  ___   ___   ___
|  | /  /  /  / \/  /
|  |/  /  /  /\  

Problemas con qmail

2000-05-31 Thread Lluís Vilanova
Lo mio, mas que problemas, son dudas.

El caso es que no acabo de aclararme con la configuracion

Puede alguien que lo use en un ordenador 'standalone' para enviar correo
'local' y al servidor ISP de uno de los usuarios, enviarme los archivos que usa?
O sea, para enviar correo desde el ordenador de casa al proveedor.

Desde YA, muchas gracias :)
---
El tonto es aquel que dice tonterias, aunque los hay que sin decirlas ya lo son.


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com



RE: No se ejecuta ip-up [Solucionado?]

2000-05-31 Thread Lluís Vilanova
El 31-May-00 Lluís Vilanova dijo:
 Bueno.. pues eso, que al hacer un pon loquesea no se lanza el script ip-up y
 claro, tampoco se ejecuta el run parts (ni el ip-down al hacer poff)
 
 Sabe alguien cual puede ser el problema? Uso Slink
 
 Hasta mas leernos
Vaya!!!
Lo que digo pasa al hacer un pon (que llama a default) pero todo funciona
correctamente al hacer pon proveedor.

Ahi va otra pregunta: los mensajes que salen al ejecutar ip-up/down
manualmente, donde aparecen al hacerlo automaticamente?
---
El tonto es aquel que dice tonterias, aunque los hay que sin decirlas ya lo son.


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com



RE: No se ejecuta ip-up [Solucionado?]

2000-05-31 Thread Lluís Vilanova
El 31-May-00 Lluís Vilanova dijo:
 Bueno.. pues eso, que al hacer un pon loquesea no se lanza el script ip-up y
 claro, tampoco se ejecuta el run parts (ni el ip-down al hacer poff)
 
 Sabe alguien cual puede ser el problema? Uso Slink
 
 Hasta mas leernos
 ---
 El tonto es aquel que dice tonterias, aunque los hay que sin decirlas ya lo
 son.
Ups, lo que digo pasa al hacer pon (que ejecuta default), pero todo va bien al
hacer pon proveedor.

Otra pregunta: A donde van los mensajes que aparecen al ejecutar ip-up/down
manualmente cuando son ejecutados automaticamente al hacer un pon proveedor?

Gracias a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
El tonto es aquel que dice tonterias, aunque los hay que sin decirlas ya lo son.


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com



Re: vim y sustituciones

2000-05-31 Thread Santiago Romero
El lun, 29 de may de 2000, a las 08:55:26 +0200, Isaac Puch Rojo dijo:
 :%s/\n  1. /:/
 :%s/\n\s*$/:/ estos dos me dan el error patern not found
 :%s/\n/:/ esto me sustituye todas las n por : y no es lo que busco
 la verdad.
 :%s/^M  1. /:/esto lo aplico al texto original de dos pero da patern
 not found.
 :%s/^M/:/:/   sigue dando patern not found. 

 prueba a indicar el intro como:

 CRLF(vim soporta nombres para las teclas, como F1, etc.)

 También puedes pulsar CTRL+V y luego enter, o bien ^M (controlM).
 en fin, todo depende supongo de como metas las cosas :(
 salu2.
 
-- 

Se busca ladron/estafador con buenas referencias para empresa
con gran proyeccion. Preguntar en [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 _-_
|  NoP / Compiler --  compiler @ jet.es |
|---|
|  POWERED BY - Linux RedHat 6.0  -  Reg. User #74.821  |
|  http://web.jet.es/s.romero   |
 ~-~



Re: Mail

2000-05-31 Thread Hue-Bond
El martes 30 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 21:09:32 +0200, Rodolfo García contaba:

El problema es
que para administrar el correo es necesario que esté en la maquina grande
todo aquel que yo quiera, y en la pequeña solo el correo del dia, o los que
yo deje ahi por alguna razon, de esta forma, tengo un 5% de mi mail en el
portatil y un 95% en el sobremesa.

 Bien,  bajo mi  punto de  vista necesitas  ineludiblemente IMAP
 para separar el correo en carpetas dentro del servidor. El servidor
 no es el de tu ISP, sino el ordenata de sobremesa.

 Tu te  bajarías al  portátil los  mensajes nuevos  *dejando una
 copia en el servidor*, los ves por ahí, respondes los que quieras y
 no guardas ninguno. Cuando conectes  con el sobremesa tienes que ir
 y borrar los  que no quieres, dejando los que  te interesan. Claro,
 esto es más o  menos cómodo si no recibes más  de 10-15 mensajes al
 día,  de forma  que llegas  al sobremesa  con una  idea de  los que
 quieres conservar y los que no.  En otro caso habría que buscar una
 solución alternativa.

 El problema está en que IMAP,  que yo sepa, no te permite subir
 mensajes al  servidor. Entonces  tienes que  dejarlos todos  allí y
 luego borrar los que no quieres. Como los has visto en el portátil,
 ya casi no tienes que releerlos para clasificarlos.

 [...]

 Se me  ocurre otra  cosa, pero  ya depende  de cómo  tengas los
 filtros  de procmail.  No hace  falta IMAP.  Con POP  te bajas  los
 mensajes nuevos al portátil, borrándolos del servidor. Los lees por
 ahí  y  envías  lo  que  quieras. Si  quieres  conservar  algo,  le
 haces  por  ejemplo un  forward  a  [EMAIL PROTECTED], y  luego  con
 procmail en  el servidor lo filtras  a algún otro sitio  que no sea
 /var/spool/mail/usuario (porque si no, te  los bajarías de nuevo al
 portátil  la  próxima vez).  De  esta  forma  los conservas  en  el
 servidor, aunque  tiene el  inconveniente de que  ya no  los puedes
 volver a ver  desde el portátil. La organización en  carpetas ya no
 sería entonces por IMAP, sino que correría a cargo de procmail.


perdería 15 minutos todos los dias mirando qeu mail muevo y cual no??

 Con el primer método quizás, con el segundo no.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
 Just do it.

David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069
Hi! I'm a .signature virus!  Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!


pgp1yHIx6Yxl3.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Prgunta sobre sector de arranque

2000-05-31 Thread Hue-Bond
El miércoles 31 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 13:03:05 -0500, Mauricio E Ruiz Font 
contaba:

me gustaria saber si hay alguna forma de copiar los
secores de arranque con el conmando que se hacen las imagenes de discos de
arranque dd, por que necesito clonar unos disco duros.

 Esto es para la tabla de particiones:

# dd if=/dev/hda of=archivo bs=512 count=1
# dd if=archivo of=/dev/hda bs=512

 Hazlo sólo  con discos *idénticos*; misma  marca, mismo modelo.
 Para el sector de arranque tienes que leer el 64º sector del disco,
 cosa que  te dejaré como  un ejercicio (pista: mira  los parámetros
 skip y seek de la página man).


-- 
 Just do it.

David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069
Hi! I'm a .signature virus!  Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!


pgpOMk8LvzoL8.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Re: Mail

2000-05-31 Thread apalma

Hola

Te recomiendo emplees el servidor de correo Communigate de Stalker 
(www.stalker.com). Es de pago pero puedes utilizarlo en versión de demo 
(solo te aparecerá una línea de más en los mail que recibes, no en los 
que envias)

Es un productos profesional y potente y puedes acceder a tu correo por 
POP3, IMAP4 y WebMail (tiene un servidor http incorporado). Realmente 
con este producto te sobra mucho, pero yo lo he empleado como servidor 
personal durante un par de años y en un PMMX 233 con 64MB no tenía 
problemas (y además en NT y Linux porque trabajo con los dos entornos).

Tiene mucha potencia y puede descargarse de forma automática correo de 
cuentas remotas (para eso lo empleaba yo) y filtralo a carpetas (bueno 
los filtros en este servidor son una pasada y pudes hacer virguerías, 
p.e. respuestas automática de mensajes según el originador, el subject,m 
el contenido).

No se que potencia tiene tu portatil, pero no cargaba mucho y ocupaba 
poco en disco (el binario de instalación eran 700Kb, increible)

Salu2

-Mensaje incluido--
  Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:09:32 +0200
  From: Rodolfo García [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Jose L. Fernandez Jambrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
Debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Mail
  
  Saludos,
  
  Creo que me he explicado mal: 
  
  Tengo un sobremesa, el cual esta conectado a internet por 
modem, ya sabeis,
  llamo, cuelgo :). Luego en casa tengo un portatil, que espero 
que cumpla esa
  función, sobre el cual, quiero bajar el correo, llevarmelo, 
administrarlo con
  mutt, no con netscape, más que nada por que me gusta mutt y 
por que el netscape
  quema muchos recursos, y mi portatil pues no los tiene. Así, 
bajo el correo al
  sobremesa y paso el correo al portatil por medio de la red 
local. corto la
  conexión del portatil y me lo llevo, me leo el correo por 
ahi, lo respondo, se
  queda en la cola del sendmail y cuando llego a casita, lo 
conecto a la red, le
  chisco el sendmail y me manda el correo. El problema es que 
para administrar el
  correo es necesario que esté en la maquina grande todo aquel 
que yo quiera, y
  en la pequeña solo el correo del dia, o los que yo deje ahi 
por alguna razon,
  de esta forma, tengo un 5% de mi mail en el portatil y un 95% 
en el sobremesa.
  El imap creo que es un protocolo para administrar correo rem
  otamente, es muy bueno y cumple su función, pero, hace 
todo esto que yo
  tengo aqui planteado?? tendría el mail sincronizado?? 
perdería 15 minutos todos
  los dias mirando qeu mail muevo y cual no?? 
  
  Si alguien ya ha conseguido hacerlo, y le funciona con 
sendmail + fetchmail +
  procmail + rsync, pues parece que se adecua más a lo que yo 
necesito, pero no
  se, a lo mejor me equivoco. Si me convences sigo palante, si 
no hace todo, pues
  :) alguien más tiene ideas?
  
  Saludos y gracias.
  
  PD. El problema de sendmail: no tengo ningun problema con él, 
llevo ya mucho
  tiempo usandolo y me va muy bien.
  
  
  On mié, 31 may 2000, Jose L. Fernandez Jambrina escribió:
  
   Hola,
  Dos comentarios:
   
   1. Si en vez de recoger el correo del ordenador de 
sobremesa con pop
   utilizaras IMAP, podrías tener directorios  con el correo 
en ambos
   ordenadores y copiarlas de uno a otro. Yo lo hago con el 
paquete imap de
   slink y netscape en el otro lado.
   
   2. Para enviar el correo puedes tener sendmail u otro 
programa, te
   recomiendo 'otro programa' por sencillez, en ambos 
ordenadores. Cuando
   conectes el portátil puedes enviar el correo utilizando 
'sendmail -q',
   si usas exim sería simplemente 'runq'. Puedes enviar el 
correo
   directamente a su destino, pero te recomiendo que, como tu 
mismo
   propones, lo envíes al ordenador de sobremesa o a otro que 
tenga
   conexión permanente. En el ordenador de sobremesa tienes 
que tener un
   sendmail o programa equivalente bien configurado, para que 
acepte hacer
   relé del correo de tu portátil, y el mismo se encargará de 
la
   distribución.
   
  Resumen: No te hace falta rsync para nada y, dados tus 
temores con
   respecto al espacio en disco, te recomiendo IMAP para 
recoger el correo
   de entrada.
   
  Un saludo
   
   =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rodolfo_Garc=EDa?= escribió:

Saludos.

Este es un problema que el otro dia me dijeron como 
plantearlo, pero me

Re: Mail

2000-05-31 Thread Rodolfo García
El primer metodo no vale, y recibo unos 400 mails al dia, asi que lo de a mano 
ni lo pienses, todo a maquina. Ya casi lo tengo, bajo el mail al server, de 
ahi, lo bajo por pop al portatil, aplico procmail y lo tengo todo como debe 
ser. Al mandarlo lo mando con relay al server, para que el spooling lo haga él, 
me queda el tema del rsync, y no perder correo.

Un saludo.

On mié, 31 may 2000, Hue-Bond escribió:

 El martes 30 de mayo de 2000 a la(s) 21:09:32 +0200, Rodolfo García contaba:
 
 El problema es
 que para administrar el correo es necesario que esté en la maquina grande
 todo aquel que yo quiera, y en la pequeña solo el correo del dia, o los que
 yo deje ahi por alguna razon, de esta forma, tengo un 5% de mi mail en el
 portatil y un 95% en el sobremesa.
 
  Bien,  bajo mi  punto de  vista necesitas  ineludiblemente IMAP
  para separar el correo en carpetas dentro del servidor. El servidor
  no es el de tu ISP, sino el ordenata de sobremesa.
 
  Tu te  bajarías al  portátil los  mensajes nuevos  *dejando una
  copia en el servidor*, los ves por ahí, respondes los que quieras y
  no guardas ninguno. Cuando conectes  con el sobremesa tienes que ir
  y borrar los  que no quieres, dejando los que  te interesan. Claro,
  esto es más o  menos cómodo si no recibes más  de 10-15 mensajes al
  día,  de forma  que llegas  al sobremesa  con una  idea de  los que
  quieres conservar y los que no.  En otro caso habría que buscar una
  solución alternativa.
 
  El problema está en que IMAP,  que yo sepa, no te permite subir
  mensajes al  servidor. Entonces  tienes que  dejarlos todos  allí y
  luego borrar los que no quieres. Como los has visto en el portátil,
  ya casi no tienes que releerlos para clasificarlos.
 
  [...]
 
  Se me  ocurre otra  cosa, pero  ya depende  de cómo  tengas los
  filtros  de procmail.  No hace  falta IMAP.  Con POP  te bajas  los
  mensajes nuevos al portátil, borrándolos del servidor. Los lees por
  ahí  y  envías  lo  que  quieras. Si  quieres  conservar  algo,  le
  haces  por  ejemplo un  forward  a  [EMAIL PROTECTED], y  luego  con
  procmail en  el servidor lo filtras  a algún otro sitio  que no sea
  /var/spool/mail/usuario (porque si no, te  los bajarías de nuevo al
  portátil  la  próxima vez).  De  esta  forma  los conservas  en  el
  servidor, aunque  tiene el  inconveniente de que  ya no  los puedes
  volver a ver  desde el portátil. La organización en  carpetas ya no
  sería entonces por IMAP, sino que correría a cargo de procmail.
 
 
 perdería 15 minutos todos los dias mirando qeu mail muevo y cual no??
 
  Con el primer método quizás, con el segundo no.
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -- 
  Just do it.
 
 David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User 
 #87069
 Hi! I'm a .signature virus!  Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!




Re: Problemas con qmail

2000-05-31 Thread ijuanes
El dia Wed, May 31, 2000 at 09:44:16PM +0200, Lluís Vilanova tuvo a
bien escribir: 

 Puede alguien que lo use en un ordenador 'standalone' para enviar correo
 'local' y al servidor ISP de uno de los usuarios, enviarme los archivos que 
 usa?
 O sea, para enviar correo desde el ordenador de casa al proveedor.

Sí, si puedes. En teoría debes usar el paquete serialmail, creo que se
llama, si la conexión es intermitente. Yo no uso serialmail, de todas
formas.

Mira en:
http://www.es.qmail.org/
http://club.idecnet.com/~ijuanes/qmail/index.html

Saludos,
-- 
Note that if I can get you to su and say something just by asking,
you have a very serious security problem on your system and you should
look into it.
(By Paul Vixie, vixie-cron 3.0.1 installation notes)
--
J. Ivan Juanes Prieto  -- Greek and Latin Teacher
Canary Islands (Spain) -- Linux Debian 2.1



pgpMhVm1HhLvg.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: servidor ppp ?

2000-05-31 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 04:08:29PM +0200, Jose Luis Trivino wrote:
   Concretamente la opción está en el menú 'Network Options' y
 se llama 'IP: forwarding/gateway'. En estos momentos la
 tengo delante. Sin embargo, en un kernel más reciente la he
 mirado y no aparece.

Debes referirte a firewalling y masquerading, en esa misma sección.

-- 
Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom,
ka Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]  || Using Debian GNU/Linux

http://sindominio.net  GnuPG public information:  pub  1024D/917A225E 
telnet pusa.uv.es 23   73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC  2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E


pgpoKiUhFNO0E.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Mail

2000-05-31 Thread Hue-Bond
El jueves 01 de junio de 2000 a la(s) 01:49:31 +0200, Rodolfo García contaba:

me queda el tema del rsync, y no perder correo.

 No entiendo lo que quieres hacer con rsync. Ya ves que yo no lo
 he metido por medio para nada. :^?


-- 
 Just do it.

David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069
Hi! I'm a .signature virus!  Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!


pgpimYJSZEHWZ.pgp
Description: PGP signature


GNU LINUX RMS

2000-05-31 Thread Tagonio



http://www.rosario.linux.org.ar/jornada/conferencias.php3

unnamed

Re: internet connection

2000-05-31 Thread ktb
T wrote:
 
 Hi,
 i have set up debian base system and was advised to get on the net with that 
 computer to get the rest of the system.  I am having trouble configuring my 
 internet connecti0on.  I have it on a win computer, and the terminal window 
 comes up with a menu, where i switch to ppp and then log in.  I tried to set 
 this up with pppconfig, and entered a pre login chat bbut i can't get it to 
 work.  Is there a way i can bring up somethin resembling a terminal window on 
 a debian?  Thanks for your help
 
 Scott

A console screen and a terminal window are the same thing basically. 
I'm assuming by terminal window you mean something like 'xterm' in 'X.'
Just run 'pppconfig' and then 'pon provider' (assuming you went with the
default provider name).  Then take a look at /var/log/ppp.log and see
what the output is if you can't log on.  Send that output to this list. 
There are lots of different reasons that may be preventing you to log on
to your provider.  More information is needed to sort this out.  Make
sure your modem is supported by Linux also.
hth,
kent



RE: OT: NTP hardware

2000-05-31 Thread david . cureton
For a solution developed by amateur radio operators have a look at:

www.tapr.org in the area titled TAC32.

May be some help however please note that some construction is required.

Software is available for to maintain system clock of a linux system very
accurately however I cannot recall what is was called. I am sure it would be
outlined at the above website.

Cheers
David

-Original Message-
From: EXT Eric G . Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31. May 2000 11:52
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: NTP hardware


On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 11:45:07AM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 Off topic, if you don't have interest in stratum 1 NTP servers stop
 reading now please :)
 
 Is anyone here running a stratum 1 NTP server?  If so, what hardware
 are you using for time synchronization?  We have a GPS receiver that
 provides clocking for a SONET ring here and I'm sure there's a card I
 can stick in a server that accepts clocking from the receiver, but
 it's (so far) been difficult finding information or a company that
 knows what I'm talking about.  (Perhaps I'm asking the wrong companies
 ...)

With a short search of GOOGLE on GPS Time Card, I got
http://www.truetime.com which apparently makes PCI, ISA and other GPS
boards to use for clocking.  Debian has software in woody/potato that'll
talk to some of these boards.  With Selective Availabilty now removed,
they should be amazingly precise. 

I'm sure they're other places to get these boards.  Just need an antenna
and some software so talk to it, I guess. 


-- 
¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·character­set·when·compos­

» ing·email·messages.



--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: internet connection

2000-05-31 Thread Andrew McRobert
hi Scott

... all you should need to do is run pppconfig (to set up the connection
properties for your ISP), and then run pon name of connection configured
in pppconfig. You must have also set the IP addresses of your ISP's
nameservers, in /etc/resolv.conf

A

-Original Message-
From: T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:12 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: internet connection


Hi,
i have set up debian base system and was advised to get on the net with that
computer to get the rest of the system.  I am having trouble configuring my
internet connecti0on.  I have it on a win computer, and the terminal window
comes up with a menu, where i switch to ppp and then log in.  I tried to set
this up with pppconfig, and entered a pre login chat bbut i can't get it to
work.  Is there a way i can bring up somethin resembling a terminal window
on a debian?  Thanks for your help

Scott

___
GO Network Mail
Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com



--
Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
/dev/null



No high memory space

2000-05-31 Thread Andrew McRobert
hi

I've had a number of problems getting X to run on my Toshiba ... I know
think it may have something to do with a message I receive @ startup. THe
message is no high memory area available (or words to that effect). I seem
to remember reading something about Linux + 128MB ram  greater ... is there
some issue there? My laptop has slightly more than 128 ...

thanks

Andrew

-
Andrew McRobert LLB B.Sc(Comp. Sci)
IT Officer, School of Law
MURDOCH UNIVERSITY
Ph: 9360 6479
Fax: 9310 6671
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Getting free ISPs to work

2000-05-31 Thread John Bagdanoff
Keep an eye on this site.

http://beta.freei.net/

Click on beta release.  Not sure how soon they'll have a linux port to
test.

fred

-- 

Using Linux




RFC 1878 documents for subnet

2000-05-31 Thread Alex Kwan
Where to got RFC 1878 documents for subnet mask
and the valid addresses.



Re: KDE GNOME (was: Making documentation easier to find)

2000-05-31 Thread Pat Mahoney
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 10:10:57PM +0200, David Henningsson wrote:
 If you are running KDE, 
 
 I'm currently using Slink 2.1r4. Is KDE in potato? I don't think I have
 seen a package with KDE on my two CD's. I saw gnome, with big warning
 labels saying thinks like !!!WARNING!!! ALPHA software! This is very buggy
 and horrible and you don't want it.

If you're upgrading to potato, GNOME shouldn't be too bad.  You could
also try the Helix-GNOME...? [http://www.helixcode.com/] 

 
 If I've got it right, there are two 'somethings': KDE and GNOME, and they
 work at the same level. And there are window managers, which work at
 another level. 

Isn't Another Level a fvwm configuration? :)

 What are KDE and GNOME, what is the right word? Do you have to have
 one of them? I have no icons on my desktop, although staroffice
 told me it was going to install one...

KDE and GNOME are desktop environments.  No, you don't have to have
one.  If you don't, Star Office can't install an icon.

 
 What I've heard, KDE is trying to look like windows, and GNOME isn't.
 Right? I'm a bit confused.


IMHO, they both look quite a bit like Windows.  Of course, both are
configurable.  GNOME is written with the gtk+ toolkit (is that
redundant?) and KDE with qt from TrollTech.

[snip]

-- 
Pat Mahoney  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I cannot overemphasize the importance of good grammar.
.
What a crock.  I could easily overemphasize the importance of good
grammar.  For example, I could say: Bad grammar is the leading cause
of slow, painful death in North America, or Without good grammar, the
United States would have lost World War II.
-- Dave Barry, An Utterly Absurd Look at Grammar



Re: help me

2000-05-31 Thread Pat Mahoney
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 01:03:28PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
 kent nyberg wrote:
  
   Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
  
  ^^
  
  Did you just happen to miss this part of alla the mails you get from the
  list?
 
 Probably not, but that won´t help if he´s using Netscape under Win95,
 like his headers say.
 
 ghazloma, click on this link:
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and type unsubscribe as
 the subject text.  Leave the body empty and send away.
 
 HTH, Viktor
 --
 Viktor Rosenfeld
 E-Mail:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 HertzSCHLAG: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/hs/
 

It's possible he's sent the unsubscribe request properly, but the
confirmation email got buried in his inbox which he doesn't read
because it's too full.  This happened to my brother.

FYI, when you unsubscribe from a list, you have to reply to the
confirmation email that is sent.  It is sent to ensure that it is
really you who wants to unsubscribe (so I can't go around randomly
unsubscribing people from the list).

-- 
Pat Mahoney  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I cannot overemphasize the importance of good grammar.
.
What a crock.  I could easily overemphasize the importance of good
grammar.  For example, I could say: Bad grammar is the leading cause
of slow, painful death in North America, or Without good grammar, the
United States would have lost World War II.
-- Dave Barry, An Utterly Absurd Look at Grammar



Re: Getting free ISPs to work

2000-05-31 Thread Pat Mahoney
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 09:24:03PM -0700, John Bagdanoff wrote:
 Keep an eye on this site.
 
 http://beta.freei.net/
 
 Click on beta release.  Not sure how soon they'll have a linux port to
 test.
 
 fred
 
 -- 
 
 Using Linux
 
 
 
 

I have looked at Freei before and was very curious as to how they
would go about porting their as software to Linux. AFAIK, they give
you a seperate program to run while connected which display ads
constantly.

I mean, the point is to make it so the ads are always visible, right? 
So the windows version somehow stays on top and visible.  But windows
doesn't have virtual desktops, text terminals (well, not that you use
while connected to freei), multiple virtual terminals, or multiple X
sessions.

I'd be interested to see what they plan on doing.  If it's as simple
as 'startx -- :1' to get rid of the advertisements, how can they
convince their advertisers that the ads will be seen?

Are there ways to make sure a window is visible?

-- 
Pat Mahoney  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!
(Adapted from Pat Paulsen by Joe Sloan)



Re: internet connection

2000-05-31 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 12:18:39PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote:
 hi Scott
 
 ... all you should need to do is run pppconfig (to set up the
 connection properties for your ISP), and then run pon name of
 connection configured in pppconfig. You must have also set the IP
 addresses of your ISP's nameservers, in /etc/resolv.conf
  ^
Not necessarily true.  The pppconfig in potato (an beyond) can
handle dynamic nameserver allocation (if you're ISP does this).  It
basically does some magic to move /etc/resolv.conf around when the
connection is up and after it terminates.  Pretty slick!

BTW, most people don't need to resort to chat script trickery anymore,
since pppconfig gets it right most of the time.  Remember to have it set
the default route, and put it in debug mode if the connection is
problematic.

Luck!

-- 
¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·character­set·when·compos­

» ing·email·messages.




Java 1.2

2000-05-31 Thread Mats Rynge
Hi!

I wonder what I have to do in order to be able to use Java 1.2 on my
potato box. If I understand it right, I need glibc 2.1, which means that
I have to go to unstable. I want to stay away from the unstable if
possible.

So, my question is: what is the simplest way for me to install and use
Java 1.2 under potato? Is there any .debs out there? Do I have to do
major system upgrades?

TIA

Mats



Re: RFC 1878 documents for subnet

2000-05-31 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 12:41:21PM +0800, Alex Kwan wrote:
 Where to got RFC 1878 documents for subnet mask
 and the valid addresses.

debian has a doc-rfc package containing many of these.  If you don't
want the whole package (it's pretty big) just do a net search on the
RFC.  There are a number of servers that mirror them.

-- 
¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·character­set·when·compos­

» ing·email·messages.




Re: Getting free ISPs to work

2000-05-31 Thread Brad
On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 12:00:13AM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote:
 
 I'd be interested to see what they plan on doing.  If it's as simple
 as 'startx -- :1' to get rid of the advertisements, how can they
 convince their advertisers that the ads will be seen?

Nah, have some fun with it! Install blast and blow them away (:


-- 
  finger for GPG public key.


pgp5jkzLZQA2k.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Java 1.2

2000-05-31 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
Once upon a time, I heard Mats Rynge say

 Hi!
 
 I wonder what I have to do in order to be able to use Java 1.2 on my
 potato box. If I understand it right, I need glibc 2.1, which means that
 I have to go to unstable. I want to stay away from the unstable if
 possible.
did I miss something here? potato already use glibc 2.1


Package: libc6
Version: 2.1.3-10

Chanop
-- 
,-.
| Chanop Silpa-Anan   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
| Australian National University  |
| Tel. +61 2 6279 8826, +61 2 6279 8837 (office hour) |
|  +61 2 6249 5240 (home +voice mail) |
|   Debian GNU/Hurd   GPG key on request  |
`-'


pgpUxCohdGcZE.pgp
Description: PGP signature


RE: RFC 1878 documents for subnet

2000-05-31 Thread Andrew McRobert
they should be on the IETF site ... I'm guessing www.ietf.org

A

-Original Message-
From: Eric G . Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:16 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFC 1878 documents for subnet


On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 12:41:21PM +0800, Alex Kwan wrote:
 Where to got RFC 1878 documents for subnet mask
 and the valid addresses.

debian has a doc-rfc package containing many of these.  If you don't
want the whole package (it's pretty big) just do a net search on the
RFC.  There are a number of servers that mirror them.

--
¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·character­set·when·compos­

» ing·email·messages.



--
Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
/dev/null



Re: RFC 1878 documents for subnet

2000-05-31 Thread Robert Waldner
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/network/inetdocs/rfc/rfc1878.txt

hth,
rw

On Wed, 31 May 2000 13:50:14 +0800, Andrew McRobert writes:
they should be on the IETF site ... I'm guessing www.ietf.org

A

-Original Message-
From: Eric G . Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:16 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFC 1878 documents for subnet


On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 12:41:21PM +0800, Alex Kwan wrote:
 Where to got RFC 1878 documents for subnet mask
 and the valid addresses.


-- 
/ Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: +43 1 89933 0 Fax x533 \
\KPNQwest/AT tech staff| Diefenbachg. 35   A-1150 Wien / 




Re: Apache SSL using incorrect certificate

2000-05-31 Thread Robert Waldner
This is a multipart MIME message.

- --==_Exmh_-12991154320
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, 30 May 2000 13:24:15 EDT, Dan Brosemer writes:
Even more disturbing is that if I go to the first site, and then to the
second site, netscape doesn't warn me that the domain name in the
certificate is incorrect!  I suppose that's a netscape bug, though, and
unrelated to my problem (Just big security implications, I believe).

There even was a cert warning for that problem.

rw

- --==_Exmh_-12991154320
Content-Type: message/rfc822 ; name=41
Content-Description: 41
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=41

Received: from melone.Austria.EU.net (melone.austria.eu.net [193.154.142.240])
by rechnah.austria.eu.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09381
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:23:48 +0200
Received: from panchito.Austria.EU.net (panchito.Austria.EU.net 
[193.154.160.103])
by melone.Austria.EU.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18618
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:22:08 +0200 (MET DST)
Received: from office.EU.net (office.EU.net [193.242.90.10])
by panchito.Austria.EU.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05892
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:22:07 +0200 (MET DST)
Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by office.EU.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA15691
for eunet-cert-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:20:49 +0200 (MET DST)
Received: from loke.EU.net (incoming.mail.EU.net [192.16.202.7])
by office.EU.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15687
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:20:47 +0200 (MET DST)
Received: from canaveral.red.cert.org (canaveral.red.cert.org [192.88.209.11])
by loke.EU.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09457;
Fri, 26 May 2000 22:20:16 +0200 (MET DST)
Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
by canaveral.red.cert.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.8) with SMTP id LAA01212;
Fri, 26 May 2000 11:05:32 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:05:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by canaveral.red.cert.org; Fri, 26 May 2000 11:00:48 -0400
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: CERT Advisory cert-advisory@cert.org
To: cert-advisory@cert.org
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: CERT(R) Coordination Center - +1 412-268-7090
Subject: CERT Advisory CA-2000-08
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Precedence: bulk
X-Filter: mailagent [version 3.0 PL58] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]


- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

CERT Advisory CA-2000-08 Inconsistent Warning Messages in Netscape
Navigator

   Original release date: May 26, 2000
   Last Revised: --
   Source: CERT/CC
   
   A complete revision history is at the end of this file.
   
Systems Affected

 * Systems running Netscape Navigator, up to and including Navigator
   4.73, without the Personal Security Manager installed
   
Overview

   A flaw exists in Netscape Navigator that could allow an attacker to
   masquerade as a legitimate web site if the attacker can compromise the
   validity of certain DNS information. This is different from the
   problem reported in CERT Advisory CA-2000-05, but it has a similar
   impact. This vulnerability was recently discovered by Kevin Fu of of
   the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and, independently, by Jon
   Guyer.
   
   If a user visits a web site in which the certificate name does not
   match the site name and proceeds with the connection despite the
   warning produced by Netscape, then subsequent connections to any sites
   that have the same certificate will not result in a warning message.
   
   It should be noted that neither this vulnerability, nor the one
   described in CERT Advisory CA-2000-05 represent a weakness or
   vulnerability in SSL. Rather, these problems are a result of the
   fundamentally insecure nature of the DNS system, combined with an
   over-reliance on web browsers to do sanity checking. In both cases,
   it is (and has been) within the power of the user to validate
   connections by examining certificates and verifying the certificates
   against their expectations.
   
   Netscape and other browsers take steps to warn users when the DNS
   information appears to be suspicious; the browser may not be able to
   do all the checks necessary to ensure that the user is connecting to
   the correct location. Therefore, as a general practice, the CERT/CC
   recommends validating certificates before any sensitive transactions.
   
I. Description

   Digital certificates are small documents used to authenticate and
   encrypt information transmitted over the Internet. One very common use
   of digital certificates is to secure electronic commerce transactions
   through SSL. The kind of certificates used in e-commerce transactions
   are called X.509 certificates. The X.509 certificates help a web
   browser and the user ensure that any sensitive information transmitted
   over the Internet is readable only by the intended recipient. This
   requires 

Re: Apache SSL using incorrect certificate

2000-05-31 Thread Robert Waldner

On Wed, 31 May 2000 08:02:12 +0200, Robert Waldner writes:

On Tue, 30 May 2000 13:24:15 EDT, Dan Brosemer writes:
Even more disturbing is that if I go to the first site, and then to the
second site, netscape doesn't warn me that the domain name in the
certificate is incorrect!  I suppose that's a netscape bug, though, and
unrelated to my problem (Just big security implications, I believe).

There even was a cert warning for that problem.

again, this time it should be correctly encoded.

rw
---BeginMessage---

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

CERT Advisory CA-2000-08 Inconsistent Warning Messages in Netscape
Navigator

   Original release date: May 26, 2000
   Last Revised: --
   Source: CERT/CC
   
   A complete revision history is at the end of this file.
   
Systems Affected

 * Systems running Netscape Navigator, up to and including Navigator
   4.73, without the Personal Security Manager installed
   
Overview

   A flaw exists in Netscape Navigator that could allow an attacker to
   masquerade as a legitimate web site if the attacker can compromise the
   validity of certain DNS information. This is different from the
   problem reported in CERT Advisory CA-2000-05, but it has a similar
   impact. This vulnerability was recently discovered by Kevin Fu of of
   the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and, independently, by Jon
   Guyer.
   
   If a user visits a web site in which the certificate name does not
   match the site name and proceeds with the connection despite the
   warning produced by Netscape, then subsequent connections to any sites
   that have the same certificate will not result in a warning message.
   
   It should be noted that neither this vulnerability, nor the one
   described in CERT Advisory CA-2000-05 represent a weakness or
   vulnerability in SSL. Rather, these problems are a result of the
   fundamentally insecure nature of the DNS system, combined with an
   over-reliance on web browsers to do sanity checking. In both cases,
   it is (and has been) within the power of the user to validate
   connections by examining certificates and verifying the certificates
   against their expectations.
   
   Netscape and other browsers take steps to warn users when the DNS
   information appears to be suspicious; the browser may not be able to
   do all the checks necessary to ensure that the user is connecting to
   the correct location. Therefore, as a general practice, the CERT/CC
   recommends validating certificates before any sensitive transactions.
   
I. Description

   Digital certificates are small documents used to authenticate and
   encrypt information transmitted over the Internet. One very common use
   of digital certificates is to secure electronic commerce transactions
   through SSL. The kind of certificates used in e-commerce transactions
   are called X.509 certificates. The X.509 certificates help a web
   browser and the user ensure that any sensitive information transmitted
   over the Internet is readable only by the intended recipient. This
   requires verifying the recipient's identity and encrypting data so
   that only the recipient can decrypt it.
   
   The padlock icon used by Netscape, Internet Explorer, and other
   browsers is an indication that an SSL-secured transaction has been
   established to someone. It does not necessarily indicate to whom the
   connection has been established. Netscape and other browsers take
   steps to warn users when DNS-based information conflicts with the
   strongly authenticated information contained in the X.509 certificates
   used in SSL transactions. These warnings are supplemental information
   to help users decide if they're connecting to whom they think they are
   connecting. These steps and warnings are designed to protect against
   attacks on the DNS information.
   
   If you rely solely on the warning dialogs provided by web browsers to
   determine if the connection is with whom you think it is or if you do
   not fully understand the implications of the dialogs, then you may be
   subject to the attacks described in this document and CA-2000-05.
   
   The essence of the problem is this: Within one Netscape session, if a
   user clicks on continue in response to a hostname does not match
   name in certificate error, then that certificate is incorrectly
   validated for future use in the Netscape session, regardless of the
   hostname or IP address of other servers that use the certificate.
   
   For example, suppose that an attacker constructs a web site named
   example.com, authenticated by a certificate that does not match
   example.com, and convinces a victim to navigate there. Netscape will
   present a warning dialog indicating that the site to which the user
   thinks she's navigating (www.example.com) does not match the
   information presented in the certificate. If the user does not intend
   to provide any sensitive information to www.example.com, she 

RE: Ethernet Error

2000-05-31 Thread C. Falconer
Try as root

/sbin/route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 window 16384 eth0

assuming your eth0 has an IP in the range 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254

If that works fine then add it to something in /etc/init.d 

--
From:   Steve[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Wednesday, 31 May 2000 1:32 PM
To: Ron Rademaker
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Re: Ethernet Error

Ok. That sounds like a plan. When I run route, I see an entry for the
localnet associated with eth0 and an entry for the lo (no gateway assigned
to either). I'm not completly familiar with route tables. Could I get a hand
with them?

What shows for route is:
DestinationGatewayGenmaskFlagsMetricRef
UseIface
locatnet* 255.255.255.224U 0
01  eth0
127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0U 0
01  lo

I might also add that the activity LED for the on the card ON solid.

- Original Message -
From: Ron Rademaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Ethernet Error


 Why do you think the problem is with the card? What about your route
 table, is all correct there? And ipchains, you don't have them so you
 can't get anything out or in can you?

 What exactly does it say when you try to ping?

 Sound like a route problem to me!

 Ron Rademaker

 On Tue, 30 May 2000, Steve wrote:

  Hello, I'm using Slink on an AMD-233 powered computer. I have a
3Com905-TX
  Ethernet card installed. The modules appears to be loading with the
kernel
  as eth0. When I run ifconfig I can see the the eth0 card with the
correctly
  assigned IP information.
 
  The problem: I can't ping to the cards IP address, but I can ping
localhost.
  Any ideas on troubleshooting the card further?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  -Steve
 
 
  --
  Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
/dev/null
 


-- 
Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null




Unidentified subject!

2000-05-31 Thread Jaroshenko Serge
unsubscribe




e-mail to leafnode-server?

2000-05-31 Thread M. Tavasti

Anybody having already done this:

1) get e-mail list put in single file in on-line connected computer by
   procmail 
2) Copy this file to dialup-connected computer
3) Put e-mails from that file to local leafnode-server.

I have already done 1 and 2, and having leafnode running. 

Sometimes I don't have enough time to read debian mailing lists,
and I'd like them to expire automatically without reading. In gnus you
can get them expire n days after reading, but I prefer them expiring n
days after arrival. This would also give access to debian maling list
to other users, without need to subscribe everybody to lists. 

Any help/ideas welcome. 

(Would be nice if debian-user would be newsgroup instead of
e-mail list)

-- 
M. Tavasti /  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /   +358-40-5078254
 Poista sähköpostiosoitteesta molemmat x-kirjaimet
 Remove x-letters from my e-mail address



OT: Xemacs21-nomule/GNUs: turn off split by default?

2000-05-31 Thread Andre Berger
Does anybody know the trick to turn off the Multipart Mime splitting
of messages with larger attachments in Xemacs21-nomule/GNUS by default?

Andre



Re: XFree86 4.0 debs ?

2000-05-31 Thread M. Tavasti
Ron Rademaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 PS. Make sure to keep the old 3, just in case anything goes wrong, I
 didn't the first time, something went wrong, so I tried to fix it and
 messed up my system even more. At the end I decided to reinstall the
 system, because it was the fastest way of fixing ;)

In file xc/config/cf/site.def, change ProjectRoot, for example:

#define ProjectRoot /usr/local/X11R6

Remove comments around 

#ifndef HasGcc2
#define HasGcc2 YES
#endif

Then just make world; make install. XF86Config should be changed,
/etc/X11/Xserver edited, and that's it. You don't have to remove any
debian packages. 

-- 
M. Tavasti /  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /   +358-40-5078254
 Poista sähköpostiosoitteesta molemmat x-kirjaimet
 Remove x-letters from my e-mail address



Re: Java 1.2

2000-05-31 Thread Oki DZ


On Wed, 31 May 2000, Mats Rynge wrote:
 I wonder what I have to do in order to be able to use Java 1.2 on my
 potato box. If I understand it right, I need glibc 2.1, which means that
 I have to go to unstable. I want to stay away from the unstable if
 possible.

From the readme:
Also note that this version needs at least a glibc-2.1.2 based system
with a recent 2.2.xx kernel.  This build will not run with glibc-2.0
or glibc-2.1[.1].

What's the problem with unstable...? IMHO, it's stable.
 
 So, my question is: what is the simplest way for me to install and use
 Java 1.2 under potato? Is there any .debs out there? Do I have to do
 major system upgrades?

I don't know about JDK1.2.2 on potato (mine is frozen), but anyway...
I got the JDK from www.blackdown.org; the distribution is basically a
tarball. Installation is pretty simple:
cd /usr/lib
tar xvfz /your/download/dir/of/jdk*z

put JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jdk1.2.2 in /etc/profile

create links for the executables:
cd /usr/bin
ln -s /usr/lib/jdk1.2.2/bin/java java
 ../bin/javac javac
 ../bin/javap javap
(do the same for the other executables)

Oki
ps: of course, it's much more (unnecessary) complicated compared to: 
apt-get install jdk-1.2.2 :-)  




Re: How to see hidden files/dirs

2000-05-31 Thread John Leget
Yes im aware of ls options but let me repeat for clarity.

How do i get GTK/GNOME applications to show me hidden files in their
open file dialogue windows. They dont show them whereas ie nedit will
list them fine.

Is there a system setting to affect this behaviour ??

cheers

Dan Hutchinson wrote:
 
 Type in ls -la and this will show hidden/archive directories in Unix.
 
 Dan
 
  John Leget [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How do i get gnome/gtk apps to show me hidden files and dirs ?? ( i
  dont
  mean gmc )
  In most other apps its no problem but gtk/gnome no success thusfar
  :(.
  Is there some system config
  for this. ( havent found it yet ).
 
  cheers
 
 
  --
  Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   /dev/null
 
 
 
 ___
 To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax,
 all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com



Wedged graphics card -- Matrox G200

2000-05-31 Thread kmself
My X session on my primary work box froze up this evening.  System's
still live, but I can't get a display off of it.  sshing in from another
system, 'chvt' had no effect, though I could (and can) start an X
session.

Once running and closing X, I got my console back -- though it was
flashing wildly and eventually turned up an out of range dialog on the
monitor itself.  Trying various SVGATextMode settings, including 

SVGATextMode -x -o

...which looks like it ought to reset things from the man page, only
succeeded in flashing the display.

I'm planning on a reboot, but any tips on being able to recover from
something like this would be appreciated.

-- 
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
  Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.   http://www.opensales.org
   What part of Gestalt don't you understand?  Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
 http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/  K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595  DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0


pgpgaM31Ci2M3.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: A perplexing conundrum... Wingate/Linux

2000-05-31 Thread John Leget
Try the following

- Default gateway on your pc  = wingate pc IP 
see /etc/init.d/network and set the gateway ip here

- DNS server = wingate pc IP  
add the following line to /etc/resolv

nameserver 192.168.0.1
( change 192.168.0.1 to your wingate ip )


hope that works for you .
cheers


Citizen-Class Hacker wrote:
 
 Alright people, I've got a question for you all.
 We have a multi-machine LAN set up in the house using Coax cables. My
 parents each have a Win98 comp, my mom's is connected to the Net and she
 passes it to us using Wingate. We have a registered copy, so no need to
 worry there. The problem, however, lies in that I am running a dual
 Linux-Win98 machine (the Win98 comes out very soon after I solve this, and a
 few more, problems) and I would like to access the Net. Now, following
 typical parent protocol, they intend to maintain control of the Net
 connection, so I can't set my machine up as the server and use IP
 masquerading as has been suggested in other messages of this nature. I've
 got the Network (dual IPX and TCP/IP) working such that I can ping the other
 people, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get my comp to link
 into Wingate. If there is a way, can you explain it? I've tried setting it
 as a proxy under Netscape, using it as my defaul gateway, etc., but it
 doesn't seem to be working. Can someone who's managed to solve a similar
 problem tell me how to do this? I would appreciate it a lot.
 
 Signed,
Ian Neufeld
 
 Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
 
 --
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null



Ishmail being developed - new version available!

2000-05-31 Thread Phillip Deackes
Hi. As an avid user of that wonderful email app, Ishmail, I was thrilled
to read on Freshmeat that it is now under active development. There is a
1.9.9 release available at http://ishmail.sourceforge.net/ - it is in
the form of a tar.gz so needs to be compiled. Ishmail is a Motif app and
needs the Motif development libraries to be installed on your system. I
tried compiling against lesstif and it didn't work. The maintainer, Evgeny
Stambulchik, maintains it should but then I have had little success
compiling apps against lesstif.

Fortunately there is now OpenMotif (http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/)
and Ishmail compiles cleanly against this. OpenMotif provides Debian
packages too.

At last I have an up-to-date error-free install of Ishmail. Excellent!!


--
Phillip Deackes
Using Storm Linux 2000



Re: Ethernet Error

2000-05-31 Thread Ron Rademaker
Your netmask doesn't look good to me, try editing your /etc/init.d/network
(or /etc/network/interfaces, I don't know which one you are using) and
change the netmask of your localnet to 255.255.255.0

Ron Rademaker

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Steve wrote:

 Ok. That sounds like a plan. When I run route, I see an entry for the
 localnet associated with eth0 and an entry for the lo (no gateway assigned
 to either). I'm not completly familiar with route tables. Could I get a hand
 with them?
 
 What shows for route is:
 DestinationGatewayGenmaskFlagsMetricRef
 UseIface
 locatnet* 255.255.255.224U 0
 01  eth0
 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0U 0
 01  lo
 
 I might also add that the activity LED for the on the card ON solid.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ron Rademaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Ethernet Error
 
 
  Why do you think the problem is with the card? What about your route
  table, is all correct there? And ipchains, you don't have them so you
  can't get anything out or in can you?
 
  What exactly does it say when you try to ping?
 
  Sound like a route problem to me!
 
  Ron Rademaker
 
  On Tue, 30 May 2000, Steve wrote:
 
   Hello, I'm using Slink on an AMD-233 powered computer. I have a
 3Com905-TX
   Ethernet card installed. The modules appears to be loading with the
 kernel
   as eth0. When I run ifconfig I can see the the eth0 card with the
 correctly
   assigned IP information.
  
   The problem: I can't ping to the cards IP address, but I can ping
 localhost.
   Any ideas on troubleshooting the card further?
  
   Thanks in advance.
  
   -Steve
  
  
   --
   Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 /dev/null
  
 



Re: IP-Chains, etc.

2000-05-31 Thread Ron Rademaker
Did you do: 'echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward must be 1 if you want ip masquerading
enabled!

Ron

PS. Check if you got the right things in your kernel, otherwise you'll
have to recompile it.

On Wed, 31 May 2000, Corey Popelier wrote:

 Ok I had forgotten the dns setting (Sigh).
 Now I get a lot of udp port domain unreachable messages in my tcpdump.
 
 Cheers,
  Corey Popelier
  http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
  Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Wed, 31 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why are you using a proxy, just go to your win network option, to the
  tcp/ip properties and set the gateway to the lin box, as well as the
  dns...
  
  Ron
  
  By the way, did you try adding that masq ipchains rule?
  
  On Wed, 31 May 2000, Corey Popelier wrote:
  
   Some additional information I can give, is that a ping from the Windows
   box behaves as follows:
   
   (win) ping 203.24.100.1
   
   (tcpdump from linux box)
   
   10.0.0.2  dialup-gw.aceonline.com.au: icmp: echo request
   (above line times 4).
   
   Now this would indicate to me that IP forwarding is occurring. But no
   reply is coming back (possibly due to ICMP Masq not compiled in kernel).
   
   Now I have told the Win box to use a gateway of 10.0.0.1 (Lin box). If I
   set the proxy to use to in IE to 10.0.0.1, a tcpdump says:
   
   10.0.0.1.  10.0.0.2.1033...etcetc
   10.0.0.2.1033  10.0.0.1.www ...etcetc
   arp who-has 10.0.0.2 tell 10.0.0.1
   arp reply 10.0.0.2 is-at 0:a0:24:96:43:bc
   
   What I am trying to establish is if whether I am missing kernel options,
   or whether I've just got a configuration problem.
   
   Thanks Ron btw.
   
   Cheers,
Corey Popelier
http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   On Tue, 30 May 2000, Ron Rademaker wrote:
   
I'm not a telepath, I can't see from here if you got the right things in
your kernel ;) But you ipchains misses something, the masquerading, you
should do:

ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s you lan network/24 -d 0/0

I can tell you what you should have in your kernel: IP Masquerading, if
you want to masquerade ping, you should also have ICMP Masqerading.

Ron Rademaker

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Corey Popelier wrote:

 Ok I now have my Debian and Windows boxes networked, and I tried to 
 set up
 IP Chains as follows:
 
 ipchains -P forward DENY
 ipchains -A forward -i ppp0 -j ACCEPT
 
 Now whenever I traceroute something from the Win box I get:
 
 1   1ms10ms10ms  (Linux box).
 2*   **
 
 etc.
 Now I realise ICMP packets are handled by a different kernel option. 
 Can I
 get this working without building a new kernel?
 
 Secondly, I have set the Win box with a gateway of the Lin box, and 
 web
 pages still won't load. Now I've heard this is the case if the IP Masq
 stuff wasn't included in the kernel (2.2.15pre19-1 btw, and Win98), 
 and
 the only hint I've seen in HOWTO's is to check for a file:
 
 /proc/net/ipfw_chains
 
 I get a file listed when I ls -al this (its 0 bytes tho).
 
 Now have I just simply missed kernel options and thus need to build a 
 new
 one, and if so which, or what is going on that causes me to not be 
 able to
 access the web from the Windows box, using the Linux box as the 
 gateway?
 
 
 Cheers,
  Corey Popelier
  http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
  Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -- 
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
 

   
  
  
  -- 
  Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
  
 



Re: IP-Chains, etc.

2000-05-31 Thread Corey Popelier
I've fixed it now Ron, turned out to be problems firstly with my DNS
configuration on the Windows box, then the fact that I had ipchains rules
floating about - needed to do a ipchains -F then the real rules and all is
fine now. Thanks for the interest and the help.

Cheers,
 Corey Popelier
 http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
 Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 31 May 2000, Ron Rademaker wrote:

 Did you do: 'echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward must be 1 if you want ip masquerading
 enabled!
 
 Ron
 
 PS. Check if you got the right things in your kernel, otherwise you'll
 have to recompile it.
 
 On Wed, 31 May 2000, Corey Popelier wrote:
 
  Ok I had forgotten the dns setting (Sigh).
  Now I get a lot of udp port domain unreachable messages in my tcpdump.
  
  Cheers,
   Corey Popelier
   http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
   Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  On Wed, 31 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Why are you using a proxy, just go to your win network option, to the
   tcp/ip properties and set the gateway to the lin box, as well as the
   dns...
   
   Ron
   
   By the way, did you try adding that masq ipchains rule?
   
   On Wed, 31 May 2000, Corey Popelier wrote:
   
Some additional information I can give, is that a ping from the Windows
box behaves as follows:

(win) ping 203.24.100.1

(tcpdump from linux box)

10.0.0.2  dialup-gw.aceonline.com.au: icmp: echo request
(above line times 4).

Now this would indicate to me that IP forwarding is occurring. But no
reply is coming back (possibly due to ICMP Masq not compiled in kernel).

Now I have told the Win box to use a gateway of 10.0.0.1 (Lin box). If I
set the proxy to use to in IE to 10.0.0.1, a tcpdump says:

10.0.0.1.  10.0.0.2.1033...etcetc
10.0.0.2.1033  10.0.0.1.www ...etcetc
arp who-has 10.0.0.2 tell 10.0.0.1
arp reply 10.0.0.2 is-at 0:a0:24:96:43:bc

What I am trying to establish is if whether I am missing kernel options,
or whether I've just got a configuration problem.

Thanks Ron btw.

Cheers,
 Corey Popelier
 http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
 Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Ron Rademaker wrote:

 I'm not a telepath, I can't see from here if you got the right things 
 in
 your kernel ;) But you ipchains misses something, the masquerading, 
 you
 should do:
 
 ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s you lan network/24 -d 0/0
 
 I can tell you what you should have in your kernel: IP Masquerading, 
 if
 you want to masquerade ping, you should also have ICMP Masqerading.
 
 Ron Rademaker
 
 On Tue, 30 May 2000, Corey Popelier wrote:
 
  Ok I now have my Debian and Windows boxes networked, and I tried to 
  set up
  IP Chains as follows:
  
  ipchains -P forward DENY
  ipchains -A forward -i ppp0 -j ACCEPT
  
  Now whenever I traceroute something from the Win box I get:
  
  1   1ms10ms10ms  (Linux box).
  2*   **
  
  etc.
  Now I realise ICMP packets are handled by a different kernel 
  option. Can I
  get this working without building a new kernel?
  
  Secondly, I have set the Win box with a gateway of the Lin box, and 
  web
  pages still won't load. Now I've heard this is the case if the IP 
  Masq
  stuff wasn't included in the kernel (2.2.15pre19-1 btw, and Win98), 
  and
  the only hint I've seen in HOWTO's is to check for a file:
  
  /proc/net/ipfw_chains
  
  I get a file listed when I ls -al this (its 0 bytes tho).
  
  Now have I just simply missed kernel options and thus need to build 
  a new
  one, and if so which, or what is going on that causes me to not be 
  able to
  access the web from the Windows box, using the Linux box as the 
  gateway?
  
  
  Cheers,
   Corey Popelier
   http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
   Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  -- 
  Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
  
 

   
   
   -- 
   Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
   
  
 
 
 -- 
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
 



[no subject]

2000-05-31 Thread Goeman Stefan
Hello everybody,


I have installed imwheel and it is running well only for netscape navigator
the wheelmouse is not working.

These are the settings in my .imwheelrc file (for Netscape Navigator)

Netscape
Shift_L,Down,   Page_Down,  1,  1000,   1000
Shift_L,Up, Page_Up,1,  1000,   1000
None,   Down,   Down,   7,  1000,   1000
None,   Up, Up, 7,  1000,   1000
None,   Left,   Left,   7,  1000,   1000
None,   Right,  Right,  7,  1000,   1000

Navigator
#Alt_L, Down,   Alt_L|Right
#Alt_L, Up, Alt_L|Left
 Alt_L, Down,   Right,  10, 1000,   1000
 Alt_L, Up, Left,   10, 1000,   1000

These settings don't seem to work.
In fact, can somebody explain me what this means and how I can change them
to get the wheelmouse (Logitech) working under Netscape Navigator.


Greetings,

Stefan Goeman.




Re: sendmail problem

2000-05-31 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
 showed an error message: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(nielsen): cannot
 chdir(/var/spool/mqueue): Permission denied
 
i have the impression, that your sendmail is not setuid root anymore.
look, to whom it belongs and what are its permissions.
possibly you should have a look at the suid.conf man page.

-- 
Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please!
--
If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!




Re: nisplus avaliable on debian?

2000-05-31 Thread Gilbert Laycock
Gerhard Kroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 any ideas why this isn't belonging to a debian distribution?

Too late for frozen?
Maintainer not yet an official Debian Maintainer?
Long term goal of integrating nis+ with ordinary nis support - so
nisplus packages are unacceptable?

I've no idea really...

-- 

  Gilbert Laycock email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Maths and Computer Science, http://www.mcs.le.ac.uk/~glaycock
  University of Leicester phone: (+44) 116 252 3902



Re: Potato

2000-05-31 Thread Kerstin Hoef-Emden

Hello Eric,

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:

 On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 12:33:56PM +0200, Kerstin Hoef-Emden wrote:
  
  A potato is a specialised starch storage organ of the potato plant,
  necessary for vegetative reproduction. Starch is the carbohydrate, but
  potato is the name for the organ and not for its content. 
 
 Well, I was going to say about the same thing, but I couldn't remember
 if a potato was a real tuber, or a corm or a rhizome, ... Been awhile
 since Botany 101...  (I don't think there's an 'irrelevantly' in the
 English language either. ;)

In this case I am suffering from the fact not being a native English
speaker, that's why I didn't go too much into detail (besides that, I
thought, it might be perhaps a little bit too pedant.)
In German it is called Sproßknolle. My dictionary says: Sproß = shoot.
So the potato is a thickening of the shoot, not of the root as one
might think, even if they prefer growing in the dark.

From the point of view of the potato plant, it is sure not an option to
be considered as a donator of future to be pommes frites/chips/French
fries. That's why most parts are toxic. Although it is quite obvious,
that this trick doesn't help much against a hungry Homo sapiens.



Regards,

Kerstin



-- 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



wheel mouse

2000-05-31 Thread Goeman Stefan
Hello everybody,


I have installed imwheel and it is running well only for netscape navigator
the wheelmouse is not working.

These are the settings in my .imwheelrc file (for Netscape Navigator)

Netscape
Shift_L,Down,   Page_Down,  1,  1000,   1000
Shift_L,Up, Page_Up,1,  1000,   1000
None,   Down,   Down,   7,  1000,   1000
None,   Up, Up, 7,  1000,   1000
None,   Left,   Left,   7,  1000,   1000
None,   Right,  Right,  7,  1000,   1000

Navigator
#Alt_L, Down,   Alt_L|Right
#Alt_L, Up, Alt_L|Left
 Alt_L, Down,   Right,  10, 1000,   1000
 Alt_L, Up, Left,   10, 1000,   1000

These settings don't seem to work.
In fact, can somebody explain me what this means and how I can change them
to get the wheelmouse (Logitech) working under Netscape Navigator.


Greetings,

Stefan Goeman.



Re: XFCOnfiggin'

2000-05-31 Thread Jo Hoffmann
From what I saw of your log file it seems to me that you don't have an xserver 
problem.
What about a window manager? Check /etc/X11/windowmanagers (file name can be 
slightly
different) or  /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager (symlink to some window 
manager).
Usually xinit checks your configuration if it thinks your config is wrong
it will start xterm if available if not it will just stop.
I had a problem that a program to check for a valid config was missing and 
hence
it never wanted to start a window manager. You can actually disable the 
checking in
some file under /etc/X11/?? (but I can't remember right now, and don't have my 
computer
handy).

Jo
 


 thanks guys, but I've run xf86config  XF86Setup about 300,000 times (almost
 no embellishment there!!) ... I've also got a server flag for don't die if
 the mouse fails ...
 
 oh well
 
 Andrew
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vitux
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:58 AM
 To: debian-user
 Subject: Re: XFCOnfiggin'
 
 
 Vitux wrote:
 
  Ron Rademaker wrote:
  
   Why don't you just run xf86config on your laptop (debian)?? That should
   make X work
  
   Ron
  
  I second. My experience with different cards and monitors is
  that I often have to run xf86config a few times to straighten
  things out and achieve the best modes...
  There could be lots of reasons why X craps out on you. Even a
  wrong mouse-setup could do this kind of thing...
  Good Luck
  Vitux
 
  --
  I'm not a crook
  Richard Nixon
 
  Debian GNU/Linux
  Micro$loth-free Zone
 
 --
 I'm not a crook
 Richard Nixon
 
 Debian GNU/Linux
 Micro$loth-free Zone
 
 
 --
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 /dev/null
 
 
 -- 
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
 
 




Problems with memory

2000-05-31 Thread Karin Probost
Hallo,

My new-build kernel seems to eat memory.

The output of GMEMUSAGE shows decreasing free-memory and
increasing memory used by linux(kernel), especially when there
is an access to the apache-server which php und postgres-access.


Following SYSTEM - Configuration


DEBIAN 2.1 (SLINK )

Kernel-source 2.0.38 from the same distribution
   -kernel self compiled 

Apache 1.3.6
PHP-3.0.11
POSTRES 6.5   sources from their original servers, self-compiled and
installed


first i have compiled apache, php, and postgres
second about 2 monyhs later i have compiled the kernel.


Is it necessary to recompile the apache,php, postgres sources with
-I/usr/src/linux/include/linux 
the new kernel-headders  ??

What can be another cause to this problem ?

-- 
MfG

-
- Karin Probost 
- Bergische Universitaet Gesamthochschule Wuppertal 
- RECHENZENTRUM  Raum P-.09.05  
- Gaussstr. 20  
- D-42097 Wuppertal 
- Germany
-   
- Tel. : +49 -202 /439 2809 ,Fax -2910  
--Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
--Home : http://www.hrz.uni-wuppertal.de/hrz/personen/k_probost.html
-



NFS error at boot

2000-05-31 Thread maxine
Hi-I am having a problem I hope someone can help me with.  I am running
potato 2.2.15.   I just recently installed NFS common and am now getting
the following error at boot.  Portmap starts fine.

starting NFS: statd lockd rpc.statd forgot to set AF_INET in udp
sendmsg.  FIX IT!

The system then gives me sendmsg error 101.  It does this tweleve times
and then continues booting.  i can't find udp sendmsg or statd.  Any
ideas.
Thank,
Greg



OT: Gimp multiselect feature

2000-05-31 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

I'm trying to use the multiselect feature in Gimp following the
GUM 2nd Edition (pg.148) but I've being unable to find it. 
Does the debian gimp include such feature (any package)?
Do you know what plugin provide it? In which package is it
included? Or if it changed its name in new version?
I'm using potato - frozen, with gimp1.1, all .deb installed,
including non-free.
Thanks for any info!

[]s,
Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
   http://www.revistalinux.com.br



Re: wheel mouse

2000-05-31 Thread Marc O. Sandlus
Goeman Stefan wrote:

 Hello everybody,

 I have installed imwheel and it is running well only for netscape navigator
 the wheelmouse is not working.

There's no reaction at all or it doesn't work as you expected?

 These are the settings in my .imwheelrc file (for Netscape Navigator)

 Netscape
 ...
 Alt_L, Up, Left,   10, 1000,   1000

 These settings don't seem to work.

These settings seem to be alright, at least they work for me ;-)

 In fact, can somebody explain me what this means and how I can change them
 to get the wheelmouse (Logitech) working under Netscape Navigator.

It might be that imwheel finds a match in a section *above* your 
Netscape-section,
so it is using these settings instead. Try sending the whole .imwheelrc (maybe 
not to
the list, just to me)

1. argument (e.g. None): When pressing this key of your keyboard and
2. argument (one of  Up|Down|Left|Right): turning one of your wheel in that 
direction

3. argument (e.g: Up): imwheel outputs this key to the window your mouse cursor 
is in

4. argument: How many times the 3. argument is to be sent to the window
5. argument: How long imwheel waits before releasing the key during its 
simulated
key presses
6. argument: How long imwheel should wait before sending the next key press

Good luck,
Marc



Re: Using gnuserv (Re: bigots - was Emacs - was Mail/news software)

2000-05-31 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 jsja == john s jacobs anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Peter == Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

jsja Oh, no, I agree -- that's why I tend toward vi in those
jsja situations. However, over the weekend I've been playing with
jsja gnuserv/gnuclient in XEmacs, and I'm getting towards liking it.

jsja Okay, that could work -- but I'm too forgetful to remember if there's
jsja already an XEmacs process running -- anybody have a shell script that
jsja will execute the following pseudocode?

jsja if there's an XEmacs process running
jsja `gnuclient -q $1`
jsja else
jsja `xemacs -nw $1`

 `fuser' is in the `psmisc' package.



xg
Description: Binary data


Re: Using gnuserv (Re: bigots - was Emacs - was Mail/news software)

2000-05-31 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 Carel == Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Carel And to really speed up things, you could even use the -vanilla flag
Carel next to -nw to tell xemacs to forget about all those nifty packages
Carel that take all this time to load.

 Better to let it load it all up... have a sip of coffee and think
 about what edits you are going to make or something.  Once it's
 running, using `gnuclient' is instant.


 `XG_INITIAL_XEMACS_ARGS=-unmapped xg' -- panel launcher button

;; `.emacs' (or .xemacs/init.el if you're set up that way)
(when (member -unmapped command-line-args)
  (add-hook 'gnuserv-init-hook
#'(lambda ()
(popup-dialog-box '(XEmacs is ready [Ok nil])

 # .profile
 export EDITOR=xg



xg
Description: Binary data




Getting docs in the emacsen, running subprocesses (Was: Re: [*] buffer of Emacs)

2000-05-31 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 maths == maths  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

maths i am a newbie of Emacs. i had learned the toturial, and now reading
maths the info page, but its too long. could someone tell me what's run
maths a program in Emacs's buffer and how to do it ?

 `M-x shell'

  Learn to use the `apropos' and `info'.  `F1 a regexp' finds
  documentation of emacs lisp functions and commands that match the
  regexp.  Try:

 `F1 a process'
 `F1 a shell'
 `F1 a comint'

 You can run `cmulisp' under XEmacs (and GNU Emacs iff `ilisp' is
 installed) also.  `M-x load-library ilisp' then `M-x cmulisp' OR if
 that fails, try `C-u M-x ilisp', use the defaults at most of the
 prompts, but for the lisp program, tell it lisp -lazy.

 Every mode has documentation available on `F1 m'.

 There is a Maxima (a computer algebra system) package in incoming
 right now, and I've got a simple mode for running in from XEmacs.  If
 you like, I'll mail a copy of it to whoever wants it.

-- 
A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
irc: nick karlheg on irc.debian.org



CDRecord

2000-05-31 Thread Clinton Byrne
Hi there

I seem to have a bit of a problem with xcdroast.

I can copy data onto the image partition but am unable to copy that image onto 
a CD-RW or a CD-R disk.
An error message is always displayed saying that I have No Disk/Wrong Disc or 
the CD/DVD is not
ready.

I have configured my kernel, the external CD-RW is detected in the xcdroast 
setup as a scsi device.

Is there anything else that i need to configure to get it working?

Cheers

Clinton



KDE 2.0 Beta

2000-05-31 Thread Brent Kopperson




Are 
there any deb binaries available yet?

Brent 
Kopperson


Re: CDRecord

2000-05-31 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 01:22:46PM +, Clinton Byrne wrote:
 I can copy data onto the image partition but am unable to copy that image 
 onto a CD-RW or a CD-R disk.
 An error message is always displayed saying that I have No Disk/Wrong Disc or 
 the CD/DVD is not
 ready.


I have the same problem, but since I didn't much like xcdroast
anyway, I just went back to cdrecord.  I suppose one of us should
submit a bug report.
-- 
Carl Fink   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
http://dm.net



ln -s (executeable) /usr/bin/(executeable) ( was: RE: Java 1.2)

2000-05-31 Thread A. Scott White
Oki DZ wrote:
 create links for the executables:
 cd /usr/bin
 ln -s /usr/lib/jdk1.2.2/bin/java java
  ../bin/javac javac
  ../bin/javap javap
 (do the same for the other executables)

This is pretty clever. Is this a common way of putting executables into the
path without having to modify all the profiles? Is it recommended, or is
there some hidden drawback?

Thanks for any info.


A. Scott White
Director of Information Systems and Product Strategy
ACS Healthcare Solutions Group



Re: ln -s (executeable) /usr/bin/(executeable) ( was: RE: Java 1.2)

2000-05-31 Thread Ron Flory
A. Scott White wrote:
 
 Oki DZ wrote:
  create links for the executables:
  cd /usr/bin
  ln -s /usr/lib/jdk1.2.2/bin/java java
   ../bin/javac javac
   ../bin/javap javap
  (do the same for the other executables)

 it might be a lot safer and cleaner to place these in /usr/local/bin instead.  

 Generally /bin, /sbin, and /usr/bin (etc.) directories are intended for OS 
related stuff, but /usr/local/bin is intended for
site and machine specific 'enhancements'.  Its also easier to move such 
enhancements to another system or to restore them from
tape after disaster recovery if they aren't mixed up with the rest of the OS 
files.

 just make sure /usr/local/bin is in the default path in /etc/profiles

bye-

ron



Re: How to see hidden files/dirs

2000-05-31 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 07:46:54PM +1200, John Leget wrote:
 Yes im aware of ls options but let me repeat for clarity.
 
 How do i get GTK/GNOME applications to show me hidden files in their
 open file dialogue windows. They dont show them whereas ie nedit will
 list them fine.
 
 Is there a system setting to affect this behaviour ??

It's a missing feature, AFAICT. Sucks doesn't it.

-- 
¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·character­set·when·compos­

» ing·email·messages.




mouse problem on m68k debian 2.1

2000-05-31 Thread mark_glassberg
How do I get the mouse to work on this system?  I gather that the device
is adbmouse, but the base system doesn't seem to have gpm (if that's
the program for this architecture).  Do I need a kernel module or a
package from another section of the distribution?

Thanks in advance.



rsync

2000-05-31 Thread Allan Andersen
Hello all,

I hope this is the right list for this quiestion.

I would like to have a rsync cron job to run once in a while,
so therefor I have created a file like this:

#!/bin/bash
rsync -av ftp.sunet.se::pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian/
dists/ /home/ftp/pub/linux/distributions/debian/

#debian potato dists
rsync -av ftp.sunet.se::pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian/dists/potato/
/home/ftp/linux/distributions/debian/dists/

rsync -avr
ftp.sunet.se::pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian/dists/potato/contrib/
binary-all/
/home/ftp/pub/linux/distributions/debina/dists/potato/contrib/

rsync -avr
ftp.sunet.se::pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian/dists/potato/contrib/
binary-i386/
/home/ftp/pub/linux/distributions/debian/dists/potato/contrib/

and so on, but when I run the script it just stop at: retriving file
list. If I run every single command there is no problem = only if it's
the hole script. Have I missed something or what have I done wrong ?

Thanks in advance
Allan Andersen



wheel mouse

2000-05-31 Thread Goeman Stefan
Hello everybody,


As requested by Marc O. Sandlus i hereby send my complete iwheelrc file



# IMWheel Configuration file ($HOME/.imwheelrc)
# (C)Jon Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# Generated by imwheel
# Any extra comments will be lost on reconfiguration
# However order will be maintained
# Order!  ORDER, I SAY!!

Xman
None,   Down,   F
Shift_L,Down,   3
None,   Up, B

Eterm
None,   Up, Shift_L|Page_Up
None,   Down,   Shift_L|Page_Down

NXTerm
None,   Up, Shift_L|Page_Up
None,   Down,   Shift_L|Page_Down

rxvt
Alt_L,  Up, Alt_L|Page_Up
Alt_L,  Down,   Alt_L|Page_Down

XTerm
Alt_L,  Up, Shift_R|Page_Up
Alt_L,  Down,   Shift_R|Page_Down
Alt_L,  Left,   Control_L|A
Alt_L,  Right,  Control_L|E
#Shift_L,   Down,   Shift_L|1

Netscape
Shift_L,Down,   Page_Down,  1,  1000,   1000
Shift_L,Up, Page_Up,1,  1000,   1000
None,   Down,   Down,   7,  1000,   1000
None,   Up, Up, 7,  1000,   1000
None,   Left,   Left,   7,  1000,   1000
None,   Right,  Right,  7,  1000,   1000

Navigator
#Alt_L, Down,   Alt_L|Right
#Alt_L, Up, Alt_L|Left
 Alt_L, Down,   Right,  10, 1000,   1000
 Alt_L, Up, Left,   10, 1000,   1000

#thanks to Paul J Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emacs
Shift_L,Up, Page_Up
Shift_L,Down,   Page_Down
# you may need Alt instead of Meta
None,   Down,   Control_L|Meta_L|Shift_L|parenright
None,   Up, Control_L|Meta_L|Shift_L|parenleft

#thanks to etienne grossmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xftp
,   Down,   j
,   Up, k

#thanks to etienne grossmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gv
None,   Up, Shift_L|space
None,   Down,   space

xv.*
@Exclude

# These are the defaults, but note that the defaults for the right side of
the
# keyboard are still handled within the program, unless you add the
# combinations desired here. (except for the None modifier of course!)
.*
None,   Up, Page_Up
None,   Down,   Page_Down
Shift_L,Up, Up
Shift_L,Down,   Down
Control_L,  Up, Page_Up,
2
Control_L,  Down,   Page_Down,  2
Shift_L|Control_L,  Up, Page_Up,
5
Shift_L|Control_L,  Down,   Page_Down,  5
  Alt_L,Up, Left,   10
  Alt_L,Down,   Right,  10
Shift_L|  Alt_L,Up, Left
Shift_L|  Alt_L,Down,   Right
Control_L|Alt_L,Up, Left.   20
Control_L|Alt_L,Down,   Right.  20
Shift_L|Control_L|Alt_L,Up, Left,   50
Shift_L|Control_L|Alt_L,Down,   Right,  50
None,   Left,   Left
None,   Right,  Right
Shift_L,Left,   Left
Shift_L,Right,  Right
Control_L,  Left,   Left,   2
Control_L,  Right,  Right,  2
Shift_L|Control_L,  Left,   Left,   5
Shift_L|Control_L,  Right,  Right,  5
  Alt_L,Left,   Left,   10
  Alt_L,Right,  Right,  10
Shift_L|  Alt_L,Left,   Left
Shift_L|  Alt_L,Right,  Right
Control_L|Alt_L,Left,   Left.   20
Control_L|Alt_L,Right,  Right.  20
Shift_L|Control_L|Alt_L,Left,   Left,   50
Shift_L|Control_L|Alt_L,Right,  Right,  50

# vim:ts=4:shiftwidth=4



Greetings,

Stefan Goeman.



Re: OT: NTP hardware

2000-05-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 06:51:49PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
 On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 11:45:07AM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
  Off topic, if you don't have interest in stratum 1 NTP servers stop
  reading now please :)
  
  Is anyone here running a stratum 1 NTP server?  If so, what hardware
  are you using for time synchronization?  We have a GPS receiver that
  provides clocking for a SONET ring here and I'm sure there's a card I
  can stick in a server that accepts clocking from the receiver, but
  it's (so far) been difficult finding information or a company that
  knows what I'm talking about.  (Perhaps I'm asking the wrong companies
  ...)
 
 With a short search of GOOGLE on GPS Time Card, I got
 http://www.truetime.com which apparently makes PCI, ISA and other GPS
 boards to use for clocking.  Debian has software in woody/potato that'll
 talk to some of these boards.  With Selective Availabilty now removed,
 they should be amazingly precise. 

Yeah, I talked to Truetime - they don't want to sell me a card and let
me do a UNIX solution; they want me to purchase a rack mount time
server.

Which potato/woody software are you referring to?
 
 I'm sure they're other places to get these boards.  Just need an antenna
 and some software so talk to it, I guess. 

I've already got an antenna attached to the GPS receiver as mentioned
above.  The GPS receiver has several clock outputs that should drive
some card in a server just fine ... I just haven't found that card yet
:)

Thanks for your reply.

-- 
Nathan Norman Eschew Obfuscation  Network Engineer
GPG Key ID 1024D/51F98BB7http://home.midco.net/~nnorman/
Key fingerprint = C5F4 A147 416C E0BF AB73  8BEF F0C8 255C 51F9 8BB7


pgpV2qidQIJFW.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: wheel mouse

2000-05-31 Thread Marc O. Sandlus
Goeman Stefan wrote:

 Hello everybody,

 As requested by Marc O. Sandlus i hereby send my complete iwheelrc file

 # IMWheel Configuration file ($HOME/.imwheelrc)

Hi

~/.imwheelrc is OK (again, its working on my machine)
Please verify that the file you sent was not /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc, since 
it
would be overridden by ~/.imwheelrc.

The next thing you could try is stopping imwheel and re-starting it with option 
-D
for debugging output:
$ imwheel -D

Keep an eye on errors while loading configuration file and/or other 
peculiarities
during wheel movements inside Netscape's window.

Sorry, that's all I can do for you at the moment,
Marc





/var/log/wmtmp

2000-05-31 Thread John F. Davis
Hello

I have a huge /var/log/wmtmp file and I need to delete it in order
to get some free disk space.

Can I just delete the file?  Is there a way to clear it correctly?

John



PCMCIA trouble

2000-05-31 Thread Gary Hennigan
Anyone else having PCMCIA trouble with the latest version in potato? I
just tried installing 

kernel-image-2.2.15_2.2.15-1.deb
pcmcia-modules-2.2.15_3.1.8-13k1.deb

and the PCMCIA modules are giving me a lot of unresolved symbols
whenever an attempt is made to install them. I tried compiling from
the source.deb files as well, with the same result, including a 2.2.14
kernel source file.

I got the basic installation up on the laptop a couple of days ago and
it worked fine. Now I'm stuck without a network connection because of
the PCMCIA stuff.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Gary



Re: potato install w/ aic7880

2000-05-31 Thread t.bedlam
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 12:45:47PM -0700, Chris Baker was only 
   escaped alone to tell thee:

 sjk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I am having a terrible time trying to get potato to install on a machine
  with an aic7880 scsi controller. The current rescue.bin hangs at loading
  sym53c416 - just after the aic78xxx mods. I have tried compiling a new
  kernel with the options listed in the install doc - and the install
  begins, but 1) it can't write the tmp keyboard config, and 2) the driver
  script fails. I can't seem to mount any of the driver disks to update
  the modules.tgz file - what file system do these disks use?? I have
  tried re-writing them several times.
 
 Have you tried passing
 
 aic7xxx=noprobe
 
 as a parameter to the kernel?

No good, methinks.

The default slink kernel was so loaded with SCSI drivers that the Adaptec
2940 in my machine choked and couldn't write to the drives. Two versions of
aic7xxx-only kernels were announced on the Debian webpage to fix this. Does 
potato suffer from this problem as well?

And may I compile a potato kernel on my slink machine BEFORE I upgrade,
assuming I update glibc and gcc?

-- 
i'm determined to stand, whether god  |=|  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
will deliver me or not. -- bob dylan  |=|  www.cris.com/~bedlam



Debian 2.1 install

2000-05-31 Thread Tim Willis
I'm trying to install Debian Linux and am having a problem that I've never
seen before.

The install gets to the line
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 419 instructions downloaded
...and hangs, or stops.  It never goes any further.

Has anyone seen this happen before?  If so, what can I do to fix it?

Tim Willis
IS Technician
Code Rite
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: /var/log/wmtmp

2000-05-31 Thread David Wright
Quoting John F. Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hello

Hi. Can you send rather than replying, as you've actually threaded
onto an off-topic subject.

 I have a huge /var/log/wmtmp file and I need to delete it in order
 to get some free disk space.

I take it that's wtmp. S'funny, mine's rotated already.

 Can I just delete the file?  Is there a way to clear it correctly?

You could run the appropriate command that you will find in
/etc/cron.monthly/standard which your system may or may not
be getting run automatically.

Cheers,

-- 
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Tel: +44 1908 653 739  Fax: +44 1908 655 151
Snail:  David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA
Disclaimer:   These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify
official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.



Re: Ishmail being developed - new version available!

2000-05-31 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 09:24:27 +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:
 Ishmail is a Motif app and needs the Motif development libraries to be
 installed on your system. I tried compiling against lesstif and it didn't
 work. The maintainer, Evgeny Stambulchik, maintains it should but then I
 have had little success compiling apps against lesstif.

When Ishmail was released I played around with it a bit and got it to
compile against LessTif. You may want to take a look at
http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~jdassen/tmp/ishmail.tar.bz2

HTH,
Ray
-- 
LEADERSHIP  A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto-
destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch 
it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own.   
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan



RE: KDE 2.0 Beta

2000-05-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 31-May-2000 Brent Kopperson wrote:
 Are there any deb binaries available yet?
 
 Brent Kopperson

kde.tdyc.com (or is that tydc.com?) it is apt-get'able and everything.



RE: PCMCIA trouble

2000-05-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 31-May-2000 Gary Hennigan wrote:
 Anyone else having PCMCIA trouble with the latest version in potato? I
 just tried installing 
 
 kernel-image-2.2.15_2.2.15-1.deb
 pcmcia-modules-2.2.15_3.1.8-13k1.deb
 
 and the PCMCIA modules are giving me a lot of unresolved symbols
 whenever an attempt is made to install them. I tried compiling from
 the source.deb files as well, with the same result, including a 2.2.14
 kernel source file.
 

I assume you tried using make-kpkg from kernel-package?

 I got the basic installation up on the laptop a couple of days ago and
 it worked fine. Now I'm stuck without a network connection because of
 the PCMCIA stuff.
 
 Any suggestions?
 

try debian-laptop, it is a mailing list especially for laptop issues.  Everyone
on it is a laptop user and is more aware of the problems.



RE: /var/log/wmtmp

2000-05-31 Thread Smith, Martin
You can also manually clear wtmp or any file with:

   cat /dev/null  {filename}

this will preserve the file's permissions, id's, etc.


-Original Message-
From: David Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:01 PM
To: John F. Davis
Cc: debian user mailing list
Subject: Re: /var/log/wmtmp


Quoting John F. Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hello

Hi. Can you send rather than replying, as you've actually threaded
onto an off-topic subject.

 I have a huge /var/log/wmtmp file and I need to delete it in order
 to get some free disk space.

I take it that's wtmp. S'funny, mine's rotated already.

 Can I just delete the file?  Is there a way to clear it correctly?

You could run the appropriate command that you will find in
/etc/cron.monthly/standard which your system may or may not
be getting run automatically.

Cheers,

-- 
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Tel: +44 1908 653 739  Fax: +44 1908 655 151
Snail:  David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA
Disclaimer:   These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify
official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.


-- 
Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
/dev/null



identd going crazy on potato

2000-05-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
identd doesnt seem to exit when it runs, processes keep building up, i
changed the timeout to 120 but it still doesn't do anything:

ip-197:~# ps auxw | grep ident
nobody 580  0.0  0.0  1320   44 ?SMay30   0:00 [identd]
root   581  0.0  0.0  1320   44 ?SMay30   0:00 [identd]
root   582  0.0  0.0  1320   44 ?SMay30   0:00 [identd]
root   583  0.0  0.0  1320   44 ?SMay30   0:00 [identd]
root   584  0.0  0.0  1320   44 ?SMay30   0:00 [identd]
root   585  0.0  0.0  1320   44 ?SMay30   0:00 [identd]
root   586  0.0  0.0  1320   44 ?SMay30   0:00 [identd]
nobody   16744  0.1  0.5  1320  668 ?S10:27   0:00 identd -i
-t120
root 16745  0.0  0.5  1320  668 ?S10:27   0:00 identd -i
-t120
root 16746  0.0  0.5  1320  668 ?S10:27   0:00 identd -i
-t120
root 16747  0.0  0.5  1320  668 ?S10:27   0:00 identd -i
-t120
root 16748  0.0  0.5  1320  668 ?S10:27   0:00 identd -i
-t120
root 16749  0.0  0.5  1320  668 ?S10:27   0:00 identd -i
-t120
root 16750  0.0  0.5  1320  668 ?S10:27   0:00 identd -i
-t120
root 16753  0.0  0.3  1112  444 pts/5S10:27   0:00 grep ident

running debian potato, xinetd, and identd is running as root because of my
kernel patches(it will not run as a non root user) this worked fine on
slink but for some reason its doing this on potato very odd ...

any ideas?

thanks

nate

:::
http://www.aphroland.org/
http://www.linuxpowered.net/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
10:46am up 3 days, 19:47, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.00



Re: Debian 2.1 install

2000-05-31 Thread t.bedlam
On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 11:55:50AM -0500, Tim Willis was only 
   escaped alone to tell thee:

 The install gets to the line
 (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 419 instructions downloaded
 ...and hangs, or stops.  It never goes any further.

What kind of card?

-- 
i'm determined to stand, whether god  |=|  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
will deliver me or not. -- bob dylan  |=|  www.cris.com/~bedlam



Re: Archiving and Expiring Mail

2000-05-31 Thread Nate Duehr
Jay, 

Have any idea how to do this if you want to keep anything that's been
read but not anything that hasn't been read?  (i.e. you have saved some
messages older than 30 days...)

Interesting trick using push like that.  I like it.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 11:07:33AM -0400, Jay Barbee wrote:
 
 I just got done looking up this one myself, as I did not want to keep any 
 debian-user mail older than 30 days old.  Add this to your .muttrc
 
 folder-hook debian-user push 'D~d 30d\n'
 
 where debian-user is the name of the mail file where your mail is stored.
 
 I will not take credit for this, I found it on a deja post:
 http://x41.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=529909910search=threadCONTEXT=956587245.1650458628HIT_CONTEXT=956585501.1607860225hitnum=4
 
 Good luck,
 --Jay Barbee
 
 
 -- 
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
 

-- 
Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

GPG Key fingerprint = DCAF 2B9D CC9B 96FA 7A6D AAF4 2D61 77C5 7ECE C1D2
Public Key available upon request, or at wwwkeys.pgp.net and others.


pgpxY9ZixwnGj.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: OT: NTP hardware

2000-05-31 Thread mitch

Check out

(Totally Accurate Clock) On the Taper site.  I might do what you want.

http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/Ftac2.html

Mitch



  1   2   >