Re: Un while() de perl
Hue-Bond wrote:
$ cat decimals.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
$num = 0.8;
while ($num 1.1) {
print (\$num vale $num\n);
$num = $num + 0.1;
print (y después $num\n\n);
}
Trivial, ¿verdad?
$ ./decimals.pl
$num vale 0.8
y después 0.9
$num vale 0.9
y después 1
$num vale 1
y después 1.1
Todo OK.
$ cat decimals2.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
$num = 0.7; # Esta línea cambia
while ($num 1.1) {
print (\$num vale $num\n);
$num = $num + 0.1;
print (y después $num\n\n);
}
$ ./decimals2.pl
$num vale 0.7
y después 0.8
$num vale 0.8
y después 0.9
$num vale 0.9
y después 1
$num vale 1
y después 1.1
$num vale 1.1
y después 1.2
Oh vaya! Si inicializamos $num a 0.7 resulta que cuando llega a
1.1, la condición del while sigue siendo cierta!. perl_5.005.03-6.
Hola:
Prueba a poner 11.1 :-?
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Re: Un while() de perl
Muy curioso... se trata de un problema de precisión
#!/usr/bin/perl
my $num = shift(@ARGV);
while ( (1.1-$num) 0 ) {
print (\$num vale $num\n);
$num = $num + 0.1;
print (y después $num);
print (;
print 1.1-$num;
print )\n;
}
$ numtest.pl 0.8
$num vale 0.8
y después 0.9(0.2)
$num vale 0.9
y después 1(0.1)
$num vale 1
y después 1.1(0)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ numtest.pl 0.7
$num vale 0.7
y después 0.8(0.3)
$num vale 0.8
y después 0.9(0.2)
$num vale 0.9
y después 1(0.1)
$num vale 1
y después 1.1(2.22044604925031e-16) en lugar de 0
$num vale 1.1
y después 1.2(-0.0999)
¿Alguien está en alguna lista de PERL? Si es así, que por favor
envie ésto y a ver si nos aclara la duda.
Javi
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 04:23:55PM +0200, Hue-Bond wrote:
Oh vaya! Si inicializamos $num a 0.7 resulta que cuando llega a
1.1, la condición del while sigue siendo cierta!. perl_5.005.03-6.
Re: Un while() de perl
Primero una pequeña modificación a tu programa para poder jugar con
otros números:
$ cat decimals3.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
$num = $ARGV[0];
while ($num 1.1) {
print \$num vale $num\n;
$num += 0.1;
print y después $num\n\n;
}
~/debian$ ./decimals3.pl 0.7
$num vale 0.7
y después 0.8
$num vale 0.8
y después 0.9
$num vale 0.9
y después 1
$num vale 1
y después 1.1
$num vale 1.1
y después 1.2
-
Ahora fíjate en lo siguiente:
$ cat decimals4.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
$num = $ARGV[0];
while ($num ne '1.1') {
print \$num vale $num\n;
$num += 0.1;
print y después $num\n\n;
}
~/debian$ ./decimals4.pl 0.7
$num vale 0.7
y después 0.8
$num vale 0.8
y después 0.9
$num vale 0.9
y después 1
$num vale 1
y después 1.1
Cuando crees que $num alcanzó un valor de 1.1, realmente en la memoria
está almazenado un número con muchas cifras decimales, ligeramente menor
que 1.1; pero al convertirlo a constante alfanumérica (que es lo que
hace print $num) se convierte en 1.1. El problema debe estar en la
forma como perl estará representando 0.1 en binário; no sé que método
usará para aritmética de punto flotante, pero por lo visto no debe ser
nada espectacular (el fuerte de perl no es el cálculo numérico).
Hace algunos años me pasó algo muy semejante con ghostscript y
finalmente llegué a la conclusión que la culpa ni siquiera era de
ghostscript sino de una librería libc antigua; con versiones mas nuevas
ya no ocurría.
Sería interesante que le hicieramos el mismo test a varios lenguajes de
scripting como python, tcl, scheme, etc.
Jaime Villate
Re: Fallo al arrancar las x
El miércoles 02 de agosto de 2000 a la(s) 01:14:19 +0200, JFA contaba: Buenas, acabo de upgradear a woody, y me aparece el siguiente error al intentar arrancar las x con startx: X: server socket directory has suspicious ownership, aborting. ¿ Alguna idea ? Lo pone ahí :^). El directorio donde voy a crear un socket tiene un dueño, digamos, sospechoso. Supongo que dicho directorio es /tmp, cuyos permisos normales son root.root 1777. -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpwXkzHoUlK7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Un while() de perl
El jueves 03 de agosto de 2000 a la(s) 10:07:34 +0100, Jaime E. Villate contaba: Primero una pequeña modificación a tu programa para poder jugar con otros números: $num = $ARGV[0]; Sí, bueno, toi aprendiendo O:^). Cuando crees que $num alcanzó un valor de 1.1, realmente en la memoria está almazenado un número con muchas cifras decimales, ligeramente menor que 1.1 Lo suponía, pero como en el print() salía bien, no estaba muy seguro de que fuera esta la causa. Usando while ($num = 1.0) funciona bien, por lo que se me ocurre que esta puede ser una solución barata para el problema, usar siempre = e = en lugar de y . -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpsCpYxl4zTq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Ayuda con particion
Estoy tratando de instalar un windows NT a una máquina y me dicen que tengo que formatar con FAT16 o NTSC (o lago así) para que pueda ser bien instalado. También me comentaron que hay un software que se llama Partion Mgic y desearía saber ¿donde lo puedo bajar? y cual es la mejor manera de particionar un disco y formataerlo para instalar Windows NT y anteriormente tenía Windows 98. Espero me puedas ayudar.
Re: Problemas haciendo telnet
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lerr correo de un exchange server
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Re: Las empresas se dejan debianizar?
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 11:59:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guenas El Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 12:08:42PM +0200, Andres Seco Hernandez disidio iscribir: Cuando en la empresa te consideran adecuadamente y hay cierta libertad, podrias insistir lo que consideres adecuado si piensas que es la mejor solución. Evidentemente, depende de las circunstancias. Totalmente de acuerdo. Ahi lo mas importante es saber hasta donde se puede llegar, y cuando callarse y dejar pasar unos meses antes de volver al ataque. Y tambien fundamental aprovechar el menor resquicio, la menos debilidad del enemigo :-))) para colar un linux (evidentemente, un Debian seria lo mejor) y darle un tiempo para demostrar lo que vale. El puesto de router/proxy es el tipico para empezar, y casi como quien no quiere la cosa se le configura el servidor de correo y se automatiza la recogida y reparto con fetchmail/procmail. Segun las circunstancias, un servidor de news le cambia la cara a los usuarios cuando ven que en un pis pas tienen los articulos del dia. Luego llega el momento de ponerle una impresora, y si existe la posibilidad se le pone un Apache con cualquier excusa de tener un tablon de anuncios interno, por ejemplo. Pasa el tiempo y llega el momento de migrar esa vieja aplicacion Guin que no se aguanta ya, y dice uno: leches, yo lo puedo montar via web con un lenguaje que se llama PHP y equivale al ASP tan famoso, y a partir de ahi ya solo queda atacar los clientes :-) Peasso pelicula que me he montao. Puff.. Ya se dice que Debian no es para todo el mundo y alg?n d?a quizas escucharemos que Debian ya no es una distribuci?n apropiada para su uso en empresas y que solo sirve para Gur?s y para algunas cosas concretas. De momento no es el caso pero ser?a terrible que se llegara a ese extremo. ¿Quien lo dice? ¿El que no la ha probado? Casi nadie que dice que Debian es dificil la ha probado. La mayoría lo dicen dirigidos por lo cretinos que casi sin problarla ni introducirse en ella escriben un artículo diciendo que RedHat es más segura, más grande, más facil y más fiable. Alucina. Debian tiene su leyenda negra, bastante infundada. Creo que se basa sobre todo en dos cosas: Ni Hamm ni Slink tenian esos colorines tan monos que RedHat o Suse ponian en la instalacion en los tiempos de, digamos, RH 5.1 o 5.2; por otro lado, Debian no basaba su configuracion en un linuconf o un yast. Desde ahi viene buena parte de esa leyenda (al menos la parte mas moderna de la historia). Lo curioso es que, haya la leyenda que haya, la mayoria de los servicios y programas se configuran mas facilmente en Debian que en cualquier otra distribucion, y la instalacion sigo sin ver donde esta su dificultad. Suena fuerte pero las consideraciones t?cnicas no lo son todo. Seguramente si Debian tuviera puntos de estabilizazci?n m?s frecuentes con distribuciones oficiales cada seis meses resultar?a menos complicado Debianizar una empresa y mantener actualizado el software con unas ciertas garant?as sin tenener que estar siempre actualizando por partes desde la versi?n inestable. En esta misma lista se ha visto hace unos dias un esquema de los dias que han pasado entre cada versión de Red Hat y entre cada estabilización de Slink. Sin hablar de la actualización via apt por internet. Sin palabras. Hola!!! El cambio de Slink a Potato ha sido muy largo, pero la importancia de la frecuencia de las actualizaciones depende de en que tipo de uso se este pensando: en un uso de servidor, las actualizaciones de distribucion carecen problema). Si pensamos en el usuario domestico, puede que entonces si tenga cierta importancia el estar al dia, pero para eso estan las versiones unstable, que la mayoria del tiempo son mas estables que muchas distribuciones a la venta. El problema en este ultimo caso es que esos CDs no se suelen encontrar a la venta, y seria interesante remediarlo. Ese es el mayor problema de Debian, es dificil de adquirir, incluso en su versión estable. Seguro que una mejora de este punto haría que Debian se viese de otra manera. Saludos!!! -- Juanmi Mora Barcelona - España [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Powered by Linux - Debian 2.1 Slink
Re: xmovie (el progama, no es porno :)
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Re: Ayuda con particion
Quien:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cuando: jueves, 03 de agosto del 2000, a las 11:49, Qué: Ayuda con particion Estoy tratando de instalar un windows NT a una máquina y me dicen que tengo que formatar con FAT16 o NTSC (o lago así) para que pueda ser bien instalado. [...] ¿Estoy leyendo mal ...? ¿? En fin, por si sirve de ayuda ;) Desde Debian, llama al cfdisk, pasandole como parámetro el disco duro que quieras particionar, por ejemplo ```cfdisk /dev/hdc''' Particiona el disco a placer y decide en que partición quieres poner el NT. Entonces, te situas sobre esa particón y te vas a la opción que hay para especificar los ```Type''' de particiones. Elije la numero ```86''', que se corresponde con ```NTFS volume set'''. Con eso, ya tienes una partición preparada para tu NT... En cuanto a lo de formatearlo con NTFS o FAT, yo que tu me lo haría con EXT2 }:-) Post: Primero pensé en hechar una bronca por mandar semejante mensaje a esta lista, pero, como todo tiene su explicación, tras reflexionar entendí que lo que pretendía era hacercelo desde Debian. Era así, ¿no? ... -- =8= ___ _ / ___|_ _| (_) ___ Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias | | _| | | | | |/ __| Pasate por nuestro web | |_| | |_| | | | (__ http://www.gulic.org/ \|\__,_|_|_|\___| Clave GPG en las paginas de Gulic Clave GPG en search.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = F734 17F5 3AB6 E1F6 11C4 B498 5B3E FEDF 90DF =8= pgp2FB6las6Rn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Slink en el portatil:descomprime el núcleo pero se bloquea
Hola, tras bucear en los CDs de la distro descubrí un archivo llamado ltecra. Lo copié a disquete y le cambié el nombre, pasándose a llamar linux. Introduzco el disquete en la disquetera y enciendo el sistema. Parece que marcha, ya no se bloquea al descomprimir el núcleo :), verifica todo, limpia /tmp, etc... pero llega un momento en el que pone: Updating locate database...done INIT: Entering runlevel:2 Starting system log daemon:syslogd klogd. Starting PCMCIA services: modules Y se queda tieso :( Mi gozo en un pozo. Tarjetas PC no tengo, solo está el puerto, ¿Qué puede ocurrir? Saludos, (y perdonad por la avalancha de preguntas) _ Fermín Manzanedo correo-e:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slink en el portatil:descomprime el núcleo pero se bloquea
Prueba de arrancar sin el runlevel e ir arrancando servicio a servicio mnualmente... Nunca he instalado un portátil, pero tal y como te sale, parece que se te cuelgue después del PCMCIA services... At 20:09 03/08/00 +0200, you wrote: Hola, tras bucear en los CDs de la distro descubrí un archivo llamado ltecra. Lo copié a disquete y le cambié el nombre, pasándose a llamar linux. Introduzco el disquete en la disquetera y enciendo el sistema. Parece que marcha, ya no se bloquea al descomprimir el núcleo :), verifica todo, limpia /tmp, etc... pero llega un momento en el que pone: Updating locate database...done INIT: Entering runlevel:2 Starting system log daemon:syslogd klogd. Starting PCMCIA services: modules Y se queda tieso :( Mi gozo en un pozo. Tarjetas PC no tengo, solo está el puerto, ¿Qué puede ocurrir? Saludos, (y perdonad por la avalancha de preguntas) _ Fermín Manzanedo correo-e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jaume Sabater i Lleal Administrador de sistemes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ARGUS Serveis Telemàtics http://www.argus.es mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 93 292 41 00 Fax: 93 292 42 25 Avgda. Marquès de Comillas s/n 08038 Recinte Poble Espanyol Barcelona - Catalunya ---
RE: Slink en el portatil:descomprime el núcleo pero se bloquea
Hola, soy novato novato :) y creo que me vas a tener que decir como arrancar sin el runlevel para ir cargando manualmente. Saludos, Fermín correo-e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jaume Sabater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: Re: Slink en el portatil:descomprime el núcleo pero se bloquea Prueba de arrancar sin el runlevel e ir arrancando servicio a servicio mnualmente... Nunca he instalado un portátil, pero tal y como te sale, parece que se te cuelgue después del PCMCIA services... At 20:09 03/08/00 +0200, you wrote: Hola, tras bucear en los CDs de la distro descubrí un archivo llamado ltecra. Lo copié a disquete y le cambié el nombre, pasándose a llamar linux. Introduzco el disquete en la disquetera y enciendo el sistema. Parece que marcha, ya no se bloquea al descomprimir el núcleo :), verifica todo, limpia /tmp, etc... pero llega un momento en el que pone: Updating locate database...done INIT: Entering runlevel:2 Starting system log daemon:syslogd klogd. Starting PCMCIA services: modules Y se queda tieso :( Mi gozo en un pozo. Tarjetas PC no tengo, solo está el puerto, ¿Qué puede ocurrir? Saludos, (y perdonad por la avalancha de preguntas) _ Fermín Manzanedo correo-e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jaume Sabater i Lleal Administrador de sistemes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ARGUS Serveis Telemàtics http://www.argus.es mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 93 292 41 00 Fax: 93 292 42 25 Avgda. Marquès de Comillas s/n 08038 Recinte Poble Espanyol Barcelona - Catalunya --- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
samba problems
Hi, hoping that someone really nice can lend a helping hand...with configuring samba... 1. I always do an ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 everytime I boot to configure my network interface. I want to configure the interface permanently so I do not have to manually specify it everytime. 2. do I need to do a 'route add -net 192.168.0 dev eth0' aside from specifying the ip add and netmask? how about the broadcast address? do i need to configure that too? 3.when trying to test the connection with $smbclient debian\\user1 , it prompts me for the password, then gives the error.. Password: session setup failed: ERRSRV - ERRbadpw (Bad password - name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid.) ah.say what? btw, I run samba from inetd. nmblookup works..(i think, doesn't complain anyway) testparm also doesn't complains...but checking var/log/smb shows this errors...when I first installed samba it asked me if i wanted to make a new samba passwords file...i said no, (taking the default choice) perhaps that is where my problem lies? [2000/08/02 20:16:56, 1] smbd/server.c:main(641) smbd version 2.0.7 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1992-1998 [2000/08/02 20:16:56, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216) file_init: Information only: requested 1 open files, 1014 are available. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:startsmbfilepwent_internal(87) startsmbfilepwent_internal: unable to open file /etc/samba/smbpasswd. Error was No such file or directory [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/passdb.c:iterate_getsmbpwnam(149) unable to open smb password database. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/password.c:pass_check_smb(500) Couldn't find user 'root' in smb_passwd file. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:startsmbfilepwent_internal(87) startsmbfilepwent_internal: unable to open file /etc/samba/smbpasswd. Error was No such file or directory [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/passdb.c:iterate_getsmbpwnam(149) unable to open smb password database. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/password.c:pass_check_smb(500) Couldn't find user 'root' in smb_passwd file. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/reply.c:reply_sesssetup_and_X(925) Rejecting user 'root': authentication failed Hoping for any kind of help.
autofs question
Hello, I'm using the kernel-based auto mounter, autofs. I have all my mount points in the default /var/autofs/misc, and I have symbolic links to them in /mnt. However, whenever I do a listing of /mnt (either from an xterm, or from within an application such as StarOffice), all of the devices controlled by autofs are mounted. Is there a way to prevent this? If I want to access my CD-RW from within StarOffice, I would like to be able to go into the directory called /mnt and then go into the directory called /mnt/cdrw. But I would like to be able to do this without inadvertantly automatically mounting all the devices controlled by autofs. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Brian J. Stults Doctoral Candidate Department of Sociology University at Albany - SUNY Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452
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Re: java
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Re: samba problems
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Hi, hoping that someone really nice can lend a helping hand...with configuring samba... Samba's not that hard. 1. I always do an ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 everytime I boot to configure my network interface. I want to configure the interface permanently so I do not have to manually specify it everytime. One of two ways: * /etc/init.d/network * /etc/network/interfaces 2. do I need to do a 'route add -net 192.168.0 dev eth0' aside from specifying the ip add and netmask? Depends; what kernel revision are you using? how about the broadcast address? do i need to configure that too? Yep. Same place as the ip number. 3.when trying to test the connection with $smbclient debian\\user1, it prompts me for the password, then gives the error.. Password: session setup failed: ERRSRV - ERRbadpw (Bad password - name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid.) You entered the wrong password, obviously. What are the contents the [global] section in smb.conf? According to the log below, you're missing the smbpasswd file (the list of encrypted NT LanMan passwords). You really can't use samba without it... ah.say what? btw, I run samba from inetd. nmblookup works..(i think, doesn't complain anyway) testparm also doesn't complains...but checking var/log/smb shows this errors...when I first installed samba it asked me if i wanted to make a new samba passwords file...i said no, (taking the default choice) perhaps that is where my problem lies? Yes that's the problem. [2000/08/02 20:16:56, 1] smbd/server.c:main(641) smbd version 2.0.7 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1992-1998 [2000/08/02 20:16:56, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216) file_init: Information only: requested 1 open files, 1014 are available. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:startsmbfilepwent_internal(87) startsmbfilepwent_internal: unable to open file /etc/samba/smbpasswd. Error was No such file or directory [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/passdb.c:iterate_getsmbpwnam(149) unable to open smb password database. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/password.c:pass_check_smb(500) Couldn't find user 'root' in smb_passwd file. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:startsmbfilepwent_internal(87) startsmbfilepwent_internal: unable to open file /etc/samba/smbpasswd. Error was No such file or directory [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/passdb.c:iterate_getsmbpwnam(149) unable to open smb password database. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/password.c:pass_check_smb(500) Couldn't find user 'root' in smb_passwd file. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/reply.c:reply_sesssetup_and_X(925) Rejecting user 'root': authentication failed -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstien
more on syslogd remote logging
ok, i got syslogd working it is recieving log entries from my router, now im curious how i would redirect those to a dedicated file? i tried various things in /etc/syslog.conf and the log file is empty still. I'd like to redirect everything from 10.10.10.1 to /var/log/dsl.log sample log entries: Aug 2 15:26:25 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:30 ATMInfo Wan0 Up, 640 Kbps Down, 544 Kbps Up, 340 Baud^M Aug 2 15:26:25 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:30 ATMInfo Wan0 Up*, +11.3 dB TX Power, +18.7 dB Rem TX Power, 42 dB RX Gain, No Change Margin^M Aug 2 15:26:25 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:30 PPPInfo PPP Up Event on wan0-0^M Aug 2 15:26:25 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:30 ATMInfo Wan0 Up*, 23 dB Line Quality^M Aug 2 15:26:40 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:45 SERIAL Info Serial Connection Timeout^M Aug 2 15:28:05 10.10.10.1 000:23:33:10 PPPInfo PPP Down Event on wan0-0^M any ideas ?? thanks! nate ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:38pm up 16 days, 6:05, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[fox@xs4all.nl: Re: gnapster won't download: fopen: No such file or directory]
ermm, no it ain't. Please read the second half of what you quote below: Today the court of appeals stayed the judge's order to shut down Napster until they consider our appeal, probably in September. Not that I think napster does it's job particularly well but I thought people should know that it is up. Of course, there's always gnutella for file sharing-- of open source software, of course. Heh. -Grant oio` See them clamber, these nimble apes! They clamber over one another, and thus scuffle into the mud and the abyss.--Nietzsche ioi` - Forwarded message from Jos Lemmerling [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:09:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Jos Lemmerling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnapster won't download: fopen: No such file or directory To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/101410 On 2 Aug 2000, Krzys Majewski wrote: Anybody else have this problem with gnapster? Everything works except, gah, the downloading part. If I try to d/l something I get fopen: No such file or directory on stderr, several times, and nothing happens. This is Gnome gnapster 1.3.10 -chris ermm check out their site... Napster is down QUOTE Thanks for being a member of the Napster community and for the support you have shown. As you have probably heard, the RIAA won a court battle this week that may keep you from using Napster to share music. Today the court of appeals stayed the judge's order to shut down Napster until they consider our appeal, probably in September. /QUOTE Greetz Jos Lemmerling -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - End forwarded message - -- -Grant oio` See them clamber, these nimble apes! They clamber over one another, and thus scuffle into the mud and the abyss.--Nietzsche ioi`
Re: gzipped readmes in /usr/doc/*
At Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:29:28 +0900, Kenshi Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the command to read these README documents, without having to first use a command to un-gzip the same? Many pager software supports gzip-ed file. less, jless, lv, ... (But 'more' command doesn't support it) If you want to view bzip2-ed files also, I recommend to use lv. lv handles many character encoding also (include UTF-8/UTF-16). That's right! In addition, lv also have nice feature like: 'ANSI escape sequence through', 'bzip2 ready', 'Multilingual grep', and so on! Regards, -- GOTO Masanori
Re: gzipped readmes in /usr/doc/*
Try using mc midnight commander . Just select the file and hit 'F3'. On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:25:25PM -0700, S. Champ wrote: hi. i'm seeing a lot of README.*.gz in /usr/doc/* i'm guessing it's been done that way for the sake of space-conservation. i'm admittedly frustrated at the fact that, from all i know about it right now, i'll have to un-gzip any of these packages before i'm actualy able to read them. there's more to this life than computers, and there's already too mucy time needing to be spent on this thing, when it's not even out of the docks yet. the question: what is the command to read these README documents, without having to first use a command to un-gzip the same? if there is no such command: 1) how to read a gzipped text-document, without un-gzipping it? 2) these readme files are so small, why bother gzipping them and throwing another step into it? either way: if keeping the document-*zip-up..document-un*zip steps in the process: can we try bzip instead, please? it's got a -keep-original-archive-file argument, under a different syntax than that. bzip might also have a more efficient compression-algorithm than gzip, though i haven't done any benchmarking on it myself. -- sean -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --
Re: more on syslogd remote logging
On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:45:59 PDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ok, i got syslogd working it is recieving log entries from my router, now im curious how i would redirect those to a dedicated file? i tried various things in /etc/syslog.conf and the log file is empty still. I'd like to redirect everything from 10.10.10.1 to /var/log/dsl.log I *think* you´ll need another syslogd to be able to judge about the *source* of an entry, IIRC the normal one is only able to distinguish by type. Try the syslog-ng - package, might be just what you want. hth, rw
PPP patched for SSL?
Has ppp in potato been patched for SSL? I'm planning a network and am hoping that my Debian router will be able to doing ppp and poptop so that some Windows clients can connect securely to my LAN. Thanks for the info.
Re: more on syslogd remote logging
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:45:59PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ok, i got syslogd working it is recieving log entries from my router, now im curious how i would redirect those to a dedicated file? i tried various things in /etc/syslog.conf and the log file is empty still. I'd like to redirect everything from 10.10.10.1 to /var/log/dsl.log sample log entries: Aug 2 15:26:25 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:30 ATMInfo Wan0 Up, 640 Kbps Down, 544 Kbps Up, 340 Baud^M Aug 2 15:26:25 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:30 ATMInfo Wan0 Up*, +11.3 dB TX Power, +18.7 dB Rem TX Power, 42 dB RX Gain, No Change Margin^M Aug 2 15:26:25 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:30 PPPInfo PPP Up Event on wan0-0^M Aug 2 15:26:25 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:30 ATMInfo Wan0 Up*, 23 dB Line Quality^M Aug 2 15:26:40 10.10.10.1 000:23:31:45 SERIAL Info Serial Connection Timeout^M Aug 2 15:28:05 10.10.10.1 000:23:33:10 PPPInfo PPP Down Event on wan0-0^M any ideas ?? Use /etc/syslog.conf to control where logging goes. This allows you to specify things by facility and priority. Your router should allow you specify the syslog facility used for messages, probably with a config statement like logging facility local3 if it's a Cisco (it's on the documentation CD which you should have). Edit /etc/syslog.conf to add a line like this: local3.* -/var/log/dsl.log If you want quick console access to the messages and aren't too fussed about other peopel seeing them, you can also use a line like local3.* /dev/tty12 to direct them to an unused vt as well. You may also want to add local3.none to some of the other lines, if they use a wildcard for the facility and you don't want those lines to catch messages from your router. Then run # /etc/init.d/sysklogd reload and tell your router to use syslog facility local3 (or whatever you chose). John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin support:technical services
RE: samba problems
OK here goes cd to /etc/network and ls to see whether you already have a file there named interfaces. If not, use you favourite editor (mine's ae, BTW as it is so ealy to use for simple editing) and create this file with the following contents:- # The loopback device iface lo inet loopback # The eth0 device (replace the ip with the appropriate address) iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.255 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.10# If this box is not the gateway, otherwise, this can be commented out Note that if you specified a gateway, ips meant for other networks will be routed via the gateway. (Someone correct me if I am wrong!) As for Samba, have your included your username and password to the smbpasswd...ooopsss you did mention that you skipped that pasrt when askedwell, to create the said file, I suggest you use Samba Web Administration Tool or SWAT for short... From thereon, you should be able to smbclient //debian/user1 ...and make sure you key in the correct password Hope that helped Patrick Cheong Information Systems Assurance Measat Broadcast Network Systems E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my -Original Message- From: Joseph de los Santos [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 5:19 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: samba problems Hi, hoping that someone really nice can lend a helping hand...with configuring samba... 1. I always do an ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 everytime I boot to configure my network interface. I want to configure the interface permanently so I do not have to manually specify it everytime. 2. do I need to do a 'route add -net 192.168.0 dev eth0' aside from specifying the ip add and netmask? how about the broadcast address? do i need to configure that too? 3.when trying to test the connection with $smbclient debian\\user1 , it prompts me for the password, then gives the error.. Password: session setup failed: ERRSRV - ERRbadpw (Bad password - name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid.) ah.say what? btw, I run samba from inetd. nmblookup works..(i think, doesn't complain anyway) testparm also doesn't complains...but checking var/log/smb shows this errors...when I first installed samba it asked me if i wanted to make a new samba passwords file...i said no, (taking the default choice) perhaps that is where my problem lies? [2000/08/02 20:16:56, 1] smbd/server.c:main(641) smbd version 2.0.7 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1992-1998 [2000/08/02 20:16:56, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216) file_init: Information only: requested 1 open files, 1014 are available. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:startsmbfilepwent_internal(87) startsmbfilepwent_internal: unable to open file /etc/samba/smbpasswd. Error was No such file or directory [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/passdb.c:iterate_getsmbpwnam(149) unable to open smb password database. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/password.c:pass_check_smb(500) Couldn't find user 'root' in smb_passwd file. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:startsmbfilepwent_internal(87) startsmbfilepwent_internal: unable to open file /etc/samba/smbpasswd. Error was No such file or directory [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 0] passdb/passdb.c:iterate_getsmbpwnam(149) unable to open smb password database. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/password.c:pass_check_smb(500) Couldn't find user 'root' in smb_passwd file. [2000/08/02 20:17:11, 1] smbd/reply.c:reply_sesssetup_and_X(925) Rejecting user 'root': authentication failed Hoping for any kind of help. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: cos() in math.h ?
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Christophe TROESTLER wrote: Thanks to all for answering my very simple question. Now, how was I supposed to know I had to link against `m'? I mean, given a header file, is the file I have to link against specified in the doc? Is there any info on that subject you can refer me to? Unfortunately there's no one-to-one correspondence between header files and library files. Although every library intended for development will have a header (otherwise you could not compile programs designed to use it), not every header has its own library - a given library can have multiple header files, and some header files aren't associated with any particular library. Anyway, the short answer is that the definitions of functions don't necessarily say what library you have to link to actually get them. You pretty much just have to know, pick it up from looking at other examples... or go rooting around through the libraries looking for it... You can get a list of functions in a library by using nm -C file. Those of class 'T' are function calls you can use. (The -C makes it work with C++ functions as well as C functions). nm -o -C *.a | grep funcname is a good way of finding out which library a given function is in, provided you know which directory the library is in (/usr/lib is a good starting place :} ). Don't forget that when linking you don't specify the 'lib' or the '.a' - for example to link with libm.a you just do -lm, not -llibm.a. Symbols of class 'U' are not defined in this library, but rather are used by this library but located somewhere else. So don't be distracted by those. A library is really a collection of .o object files (see ar for more details). So nm (and other tools) will often tell you what object file within the library is being referred to. Normally, this only matters if you are making your own libraries.
Re: cos() in math.h ?
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Christophe TROESTLER wrote: simply need to include `math.h'. However, when I compile, I got the error: /tmp/cc9WOsLC.o(.text+0x16): undefined reference to `cos' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status This is actually a linker error - undefined references happen when the linker (which might be called by the compiler) tries to assemble the object files into an executable, but can't find all the function calls that the program wants to make. cos() is in the math library, libm.a. So you need to add -lm to the command line. Including math.h will allow the compiler to compile the object code (otherwise you would get warnings or errors about the function declaration for cos()) but the actual code that does the computation is in libm.
holly crap!
Help, PLEASE HELP I've done somethig very bad.. I did: rm * /var/spool/fax/outgoing I was user not root (little sigh), but I lost a lot of data.. Is there ANYWAY to recover all the lost files in /home/me ??? thanks . . .
Re: more on syslogd remote logging
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:45:59PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: things in /etc/syslog.conf and the log file is empty still. I'd like to redirect everything from 10.10.10.1 to /var/log/dsl.log The standard syslog doesn't support that, although I don't know about others. If you need the separate logs you'll have to either find a syslogd replacement that does what you want or post-process based on the host field in the logfile(s). If you're processing the logs you may find it easier to create a catchall log that gets everything written to it and start from there. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpHPSCg4ya92.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: your mail
Hi, You want to: bash$ export http_proxy=http://msproxy.on.windows.box:portnumber; You probably also want to set ftp_proxy to the same thing. On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] wrote: Hi guys! I have been searching high and low for the answer but no such luck.I am attempting to connect by Debian GNU/Linux box to the Net through a Microsoft Proxy Server 2.0. I can ping outside the local network but whenever I use dselect, I get an error message. I understand that if the socks is enabled on the M$ Proxy Server, I can use the socks4/5 client to sockify the programs which need to connect to the Net, but I think the proxy server socks is not enabled. Also, I have seen numerous postings regarding the use of some M$ proprietary protocol which allows M$ Internet Explorer (and not other Web Browsers such as Netscape and Opera) to connect to the Net. I tried using Lynx in Debian and this is the error messages I get: HTTP Error 401 401.2 Unauthorised Logon failed due to server configuration. This error indicates that the credentials passed to the server do not match the credentials required to logon to the server. This is usually caused by not sendoing the proper WWW - Authenticate header field. Please contact the Web server's admin to verify that you have permission to access the requested resource. In M$ Windows 95b(on the same box using XOSL), I can connect using only M$ Internet Explorer! Can anyone enlightenment me? Is there a space on the Net where I can find the answers to this question? Thx. P/S I am certain my settings on the Debian box is correct! Patrick Cheong Information Systems Assurance Measat Broadcast Network Systems E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: holly crap!
I've done somethig very bad.. I did: rm * /var/spool/fax/outgoing I was user not root (little sigh), but I lost a lot of data.. Is there ANYWAY to recover all the lost files in /home/me ??? I guess you were in home when you did that. Well, nope. Unless you made backups, whatever you deleted is now gone. I dont think there's a way to recover it. I'd love to know a way, though, if there is one. (Perhaps a little modification could be done to rm commandmake a recovery bin of a sort, copy files into there up to certain size, not delete them. But thats up to individual sysadmins to implement) Andrei First there was Explorer. Then came Expedition. This summer coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. - Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arshes.dyndns.org UIN 12402354 For GPG key, go to above URL/GnuPG -
Re: OT: less v. more CCing
On 02 Aug 2000, Bolan Meek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On topics arisen from this discussion, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: ...BTW, please refrain from sending to _both_ the list and me, I read the list. ... One may assume that those whose names one sees often are subuscribed, but how to be sure, generally? I propose One can't know. But one should read the list s/he's posting to. If s/he doesn't it's not your fault. In general, on open lists you should assume one is reading the list s/he is posting to. For this one her (debian-user, to which this thread was crossmailed) this isn't right for my person. But the original discussion was on debian-devel and I also sent this to this special list. a habit of including in the .sig a notice: I'm on this list A signature is a signature is a signature. And has in general nothing to do with the article. I say in general, some people tend to add special signature according to the topic (like Sven Guckes, if you know him). As you can see from the headers, the list of Cc: is getting longer every time, then. And how should I know what e.g. Ben had in his signature about being on the list or not? How should one know what your intention was to Cc: him? This might work for the first time, but not for the next replies (which, on a discussion-list are very likely). And removing it when not needed. I think that will help newcomers, as well as those who have the habit of leaving the poster on the To/Cc: list. I go another way: I included now a header that should be respected by most MUAs: Mail-CopiesTo: never I think newcomers should rather be guided to _not_ Cc: one posting to a list than to rely on some obscure sentence in one's signature. The header I noticed is a proposed draft that is included in some MUAs, and will quite possibly be in by more in the future. In other news, in accordance with the OT in the Subject:, I'm sending my reply to -user... Which I don't read, so if you want to reply to this you might want to Cc: me, but I hope this is not neccesary. I'm not likely to subscribe -user, I'm on far too many lists. Have fun! Alfie -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday
Re: holly crap!
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Andrei Ivanov wrote: I was user not root (little sigh), but I lost a lot of data.. Is there ANYWAY to recover all the lost files in /home/me ??? I guess you were in home when you did that. Well, nope. Unless you made backups, whatever you deleted is now gone. It is possible to recover the data with ext2ed... provided that you have a pretty good idea of what it is, have enough spare space lying around to make a complete copy of the partition, nothing has written over it, and you know how the filesystem works. If it's text data, you might be able to fish it out by grepping the device file for parts of it. The 'gitview' program is invaluable doing this sort of thing since you can see text and binary data together.
Re: more on syslogd remote logging
ok, i did see some stuff on it when using syslog-ng, i'll play around more with that tomorrow night -- thanks!! nate On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Mark Brown wrote: brooni On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:45:59PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: brooni brooni things in /etc/syslog.conf and the log file is empty still. I'd like to brooni redirect everything from 10.10.10.1 to /var/log/dsl.log brooni brooni The standard syslog doesn't support that, although I don't know about brooni others. If you need the separate logs you'll have to either find a brooni syslogd replacement that does what you want or post-process based on the brooni host field in the logfile(s). If you're processing the logs you may brooni find it easier to create a catchall log that gets everything written to brooni it and start from there. brooni brooni -- brooni Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) brooni http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ brooni EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ brooni ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:38pm up 16 days, 6:05, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: Getting debian CD to recognize SCSI disk(s)
On Sat, Aug 02, 1980 at 08:46:24AM -0700, Ed Burke wrote: Fix your system date. I found quite by accident that I can boot from CD but the procedure does NOT recognize my scsi drive(s). According to the logon message I have two drives but 1 doesn't seem to have been recognized under MS95. What is your SCSI card? This information should be known to you, available from the SCSI BIOS screen, in hardware documentation, or indicated on the card itself. The corresponding driver should be identifiable from the Hardware-HOWTO (http://www.linuxdoc.org/). Use insmod to load the appropriate driver, eg: $ insmod aic7xxx# typical for Adapted 2490 series cards ...or possibly a full path specification: $ insmod /lib/modules/2.2.16/scsi/aic7xxx.o That's another issue the primary drive was partitioned using Partition Magic, just before I started to load Linux. I / we had trouble in that the boot loader wasn't found on the CD where the text said it would. In fact the last two levels of directory were missing in the path. So, Ethan Pierce - one of you - assisted me for a couple days till we ran into the scsi problem. Show the output of fdisk -l on this disk. If one or more of you want to take a shot at this I can supply you more definitive data on the approach used and the warning message I got when doing an install, using the files Ethan provided. Waiting with open arms, Ed Who is Ethan? -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpbT4uXUgWw3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: holly crap!
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:13:04PM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: Help, PLEASE HELP I've done somethig very bad.. I did: rm * /var/spool/fax/outgoing I was user not root (little sigh), but I lost a lot of data.. Is there ANYWAY to recover all the lost files in /home/me ??? Remount the affected partition read-only (yet another reason to create multiple system partitions, BTW). This will prevent any further changes to the system. Gnu Midnight Commander (mc or gmc) is alleged to have some data recovery potential. You might want to investigate this. Generally speaking, file deletion is a pretty definitive act under Linux. There are data recovery firms which specialize in retrieving lost data. If the data are sufficiently important to you, you may want to get a quote. Backups are good. Early and often. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpRY94eGIIKF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: less v. more CCing
Gerfried == Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gerfried I go another way: I included now a header that should Gerfried be respected by most MUAs: Mail-CopiesTo: never The mail-copies-to header does sound good, but I have mixed feelings as to if it really solves the problems. Oh, BTW, Mail-CopiesTo: never is obsolete, use nobody instead. See http://www.newsreaders.com/misc/mail-copies-to.html Mostly coming from this: Gerfried I think newcomers should rather be guided to _not_ Cc: Gerfried one posting to a list than to rely on some obscure Gerfried sentence in one's signature. The header I noticed is a Gerfried proposed draft that is included in some MUAs, and will Gerfried quite possibly be in by more in the future. In Gnus, you followup an article with 'f'. There are two modes: 1. default: f replies to everybody, unless there is a mail-copies-to: nobody header. 2. after config: f replies to predefined mailing list only, unless mail-copies-to says otherwise. Both of these, in my mind, have serious problems: Mode 1: Should be obvious. Not everybody sets the mail-copies-to header. Mode 2: When replying to some mailing lists, replying to the mailing list is not always appropriate. Some examples of when the default mailing list address is wrong: - Mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], appears on debian-private. Replies should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not debian-private. - often bug reports are cross posted to debian-devel, and replies often should be copied to the BTS. - policy requests are done via the BTS, but appear on debian-policy. - cross posts between multiple mailing lists. Sometimes this can be important, for instance, if a discussion with an upstream mailing is relevant to debian-devel. Another limitation, IMHO, is that the header mail-copies-to: nobody, doesn't provide the MUA enough information where the reply should go. Ok, it shouldn't go to the sender. But what about the list of addresses under the To: header? What about the list of addresses under the Cc: header? Which address/addresses should be used? How can you guess in such a way as to avoid the above problems? I do not see how these limitations could be avoided, as the MUA has no way of knowing where the reply should go. The MUA can find out where the message was sent, but how does it know which addresses are mailing lists, which ones are private individuals, and which private individuals want CCs? I would prefer another header (does the followup-to header do this??), that is like reply-to:, except it works for group followups, rather then private replies. Even better, if it supported mailing lists *and* newsgroups... If the poster hasn't submitted one, the mailing list software could add a default one. If there is already a header, it shouldn't be replaced. Another-words, I think it should be up to the sender to specify exactly where the group reply should go. If the sender doesn't say, then the mailing list should be able to specify. This should happen without affecting private replies (so reply-to can't be used). As a side affect, this would eliminate the need for the debates of the form: but I really do have an email address called nobody! -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: holly crap!
I've done somethig very bad.. I did: rm * /var/spool/fax/outgoing I was user not root (little sigh), but I lost a lot of data.. Is there ANYWAY to recover all the lost files in /home/me ??? There is a package in unstable called 'recover'. Description: Undelete files on ext2 partitions Recover automates some steps as described in the ext2-undeletion howto. This means it seeks all the deleted inodes on your hard drive with debugfs. When all the inodes are indexed, recover asks you some questions about the deleted file. These questions are: * Hard disk device name * Year of deletion * Month of deletion * Weekday of deletion * First/Last possible day of month * Min/Max possible file size * Min/Max possible deletion hour * Min/Max possible deletion minute * User ID of the deleted file * A text string the file included (can be ignored) If recover found any fitting inodes, he asks to give a directory name and dumps the inodes into the directory. Finally he asks you if you want to filter the inodes again (in case you typed some wrong answers). http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/admin/recover.html I have not used said package, but came across it during another install. -nicole
Re: t-dsl
Arthur H. Edwards wrote: I'm a bit confused. On a normal dial-up I have been using PPP and do have a static IP address. If ADSL is using PPP what about DSL prevents PPP from doing the same thing? actually its up to the radius or router of the isp to supply an ip. They can use a fixed ip for each useraccount (which is very nice) or they can use a fixed ip per peering point, in other words, one fixed ip per telefonline. As you can not predict at which line your call will be accepted, you get a random/dynamic ip-number from your point of view as a dial-up-customer). And the third solution: The router requests an ip-number at a radius-server. Most radius-Servers I know simply suggest the first free number in the list. You can NACK that and thats fine :-) Christian Brandt
Re: Backing up a Linux system
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 05:28:14PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian Potato (Frozen) with Slink KDE. I want to be able to backup my linux system to scsi tape (nst0) such that, if my hard drive falls into little pieces one bright sunny day, I can boot from a rescue floppy and restore the lot onto a new drive without having to re-install anything. I plan to use afio for the backup in conjunction with the Tomsrtbt rescue floppy (an amazing piece of work). afio is a good choice. I use tar. It's prevelant, though slightly less robust. Most parts of the system are straightforward and I could include mount point directories, such as /cdrom, as long as there is nothing actually mounted then they would, at least, be automatically re-created. However, if you do have something mounted beneath a mount point it generally *will* be backed up. You'll end up with a rather redundant copy of that CDROM you left in the drive last night. I wouldn't need to backup /tmp. What about /dev? Could the device files be backed up without backing up the contents of the said devices? I did see once that Midnight Commander could copy a complete linux system onto another partition so I assume that backing up the /dev directory could be done. GNU tar handles /dev files properly, though strictly you don't need to back this up. See below. I'm assuming that the contents of /proc, including any sub-directories, are generated each time at startup and all that would need to be done would be to re-create the actual directory. In general, you don't *need* to back up anything that's a standard part of the system. This would include: System directories: /bin /sbin /dev /lib /usr /initrd Each of these contains *only* files added by the distribution, and for which your backups can't necessarily be trusted to restore to proper state. An OS reinstall is appropriate (and buys you an upgrade, if desired). The information will be correctly created. Generally, you don't need to back up these trees. Temporary fils: /tmp This is flushed by the system on each reboot anyway (watch your boot messages). Backups unnecessary. Secondary mount points: /mnt /net YMMV, but you generally won't want to back up arbitrary remote filesystems, and frequently don't need to back up removable devices (floppy, cdrom, zip, jaz, mo) mounted under /mnt or another mount point. Backups probably irrellevant. Virtual FS and recovery: /proc /lost+found /proc is a virtual filesystem. It doesn't actually exist in a sense of storage, it's an interface to kernel-space data and state. It isn't created at boot, it's probably more accurate to say that information under /proc is made available on demand. /lost+found is where lost clusters are placed by e2fsck. Generally you're not interested in these (though YMMV). Backup unnecessary and possibly impossible. Stray links: /opt If you've implemented /opt as a link to /usr/local, you don't need to back it up seperately. If you've created a seperate filesystem, ask yourself why, move everything in it to /usr/local, create an appropriate link, and remove /opt from your backup schedule. Backup a sign of poor FS layout (IMVAO). Persistant system state: /var There are parts of /var you'll want to keep, much of it you can discard. See the example below for more guidance. Note that you *will* want to save anything relating to your packaging system (there are apt and dpkg trees under /var), duplicates of system files under /var/backups, system logs, and possibly web space. There are arguments on both sides of archiving spools (print, mail, news, squid, fax, etc.). I choose not to. Backups on a selected basis. Stuff you *REALLY* want to save: /etc /root /usr/local /home This is the non-distribution, non-remote, non-volatile, valuable part of your system. Hard-won configurations, local apps and data, and user space. Backups mandetory. Early and often. Validate your backups. My own system backup script follows. This is for an aging single-user Linux box, and is run typically every few days. Fits well on a single 2.0 GB SCSI DAT-90 DDS tape, with 1 2.4 GB and 2x 2.1 GB disks. begin system-backup #!/bin/bash # Create backups of /etc, /home, /usr/local, and... mt rewind tar cvf /dev/nst0 /etc tar cvf /dev/nst0 /root tar cvf /dev/nst0 /home tar cvf /dev/nst0 /usr/local # and selected /var directories tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/backups tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/cache/apt tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/lib tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/log tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/www end system-backup -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Re: cdrom
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 02:23:54PM -0400, Andy The King wrote: Hello! I just recently purchased a copy of Debian GNU/Linux 2.1. Although my friend told me that I can just down loaded for free from the web. So I installed it on my machine and everything runs well except for that my cdrom didn't recognized any of the CD-Rewritable copies that burned. However, the operating system able to allows me to read other CD-W copies that are not rewritable. I did all this with mounting the cdrom. CD-R disks can be finicky under various configurations. Can you read from the same CD booting the system under a different OS (say DOS or Windows)? What is this mean? I have most of the softwares that needed to be run in Linux are in those CD-Rewritable. What can I do? Either re-burn the disks or mount them on another system and use network access. I found I could read a CD on a laptop but not my desktop, could ssh or Samba mount the CD to pull files from it to the desktop. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgplqx9MZahLx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: some questions
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 09:46:41PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, David Karlin wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:28:52AM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: 1. When using a network adapter whose driver is compiled as a module - where does this module get loaded? I currently added a simple modprobe line to /etc/init.d/networking , but there has to be a better way. On RedHat loading this module is done by the ifup script. Edit /etc/modules to include the name of the modules, and options; i.e. parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7(make sure you add them in the order they should to be loaded).Then run update-modules and a new /etc/modules.conf will be created. This gives the options to modprobe. But when is modprobe being run? During the boot process. Generally, grep 'modprobe' /etc/init.d and look under /etc/rc?.d to see where this script is linked: /etc/init.d/alsa /etc/init.d/kerneld /etc/init.d/modutils ...IIRC (without checking) modutils is the primary init script involved, and... /etc/rcS.d/S20modutils ...it's called early in the boot (rcS.d) process. 5. Single-user mode loads a whole bunch of stuff thatare not really needed. What is the recomended way to load failsafe defaults? Using a floppy? What is the stuff that you don't need?(I'm not an expert on this). For instance: networking. Many things can go wrong: A faulty module for the adapter, dhcpcd hangs a bit because it can't find a server, etc. I can alway load with init=/bin/sh, or from a floppy, but those are not aptimal choices. You can set an init level to exclude initiating networking services if you wish. RedHat (IIRC) specifies runlevel 2 as non-networked workstation, rulevel 3 as networked workstation, and RL 5 as a networked workstation with an X display manager. RL 4, IIRC, was skipped. Generally RL 3 or 5 are default under RH. See /etc/inittab for default runlevel. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpXREs5xepkP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: new PC disk problem?
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:27:59AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
I received a new Dell computer last week, and after a backup of
my system tar reported problems with one file. While trying to
read that file, I get I/O errors:
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=10360592,
sector=4464737
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02 (hda), sector 4464737
Bad disk?
Should I contact Dell or test-torture it some more?
...did you run badblocks on it?
Can you replicate the problem on another file in the same sector?
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Re: Installing packages without manpages and docs
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:34:12 +1000 , Kenrick, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC Slink minimum install is circa 30 MB Would it be worth a try installing minimal Slink first, then apt-get upgrade;apt-get dist-upgrade ? No. The man pages are in the packages themselves. Your approach wouldn't give any gain. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
ppp connection speed
Hello, I am using Debian slink, and a standard modem/pppd connection to my provider. Everything works well since years (I used the same config with Slakware) But how/where can I see with which speed the modem has been connected ?? thanks, -- - Philippe MICHEL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Penser ne suffit pas : il faut penser à quelque chose. Jules Renard = Dispensé de Politesse envers la PUB Sauvage !!! -Pour répondre, supprimer eventuellement no_spam_ de mon adresse. -Wenn Sie antworten, bitte no_spam_ von der Adresse löschen. -If you respond to my mail, please remove the eventual no_spam_.
re: cdrom ... and alsa
cd-rw discs require different laser frequencies in order to be read (that's why you cant use them in most audio cd players and dvd players) most new computer cd drives implement multi-read functionality. i think it was multi-read.. i dunno.. i always get the terms mixed up.. =) if you look at the recordable side of an rw, you'll see that it's less reflective than an r or a normal silver - hence the varying frequencies required. also, on a side note.. has anyone had problems with alsa under potato? there's basically no documentation (man pages and such), and it seems to be missing files. the source dist for alsa apparently requires that i have a copy of the kernel source (configure references /usr/src/linux/include/version.h or something similar)... which i frankly dont want to download.. i dont have a copy of version.h to fake it out with either. anyway, i have an intel al440lx mb with a builtin opl3-sa3, and alsa just doesnt want to work with it. isapnp detects it fine, and the configs that i pass to alsa through alsaconfig (or whatever it was called) are correct, but alsa just doesnt like it. the whole thing just seems wierd.. the sound detect module is totally missing (as are the rest of the drivers apparently) and alsa_modules is reported as referenced, but never uploaded by apt-get! i'm kinda stuck either way i turn on this one. any help is greatly appreciated =) Hello! =20 I just recently purchased a copy of Debian GNU/Linux 2.1. Although my friend told me that I can just down loaded for free from the web. So I installed it on my machine and everything runs well except for that my cdrom didn't recognized any of the CD-Rewritable copies that burned. However, the operating system able to allows me to read other CD-W copies that are not rewritable. I did all this with mounting the cdrom. CD-R disks can be finicky under various configurations. Can you read from the same CD booting the system under a different OS (say DOS or Windows)? What is this mean? I have most of the softwares that needed to be run in Linux are in those CD-Rewritable. What can I do? Either re-burn the disks or mount them on another system and use network access. I found I could read a CD on a laptop but not my desktop, could ssh or Samba mount the CD to pull files from it to the desktop. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
disk partition using fips
I would dearly like to repartition a drive on my systemto give me MORE spacefor linux. So I duely ran noton and defragged, which put all the stuff in the first 10% of the disk. But, looking on the map , the last sector had hidden files on it. So I turned on visualization in Win 98ofhidden file types.and system files- a total of 7 megs ! I realize that I can change all the file attributes somehow (I've yet to find the command under dos ), and then re-defrag , then re-attribute the files asa before. But it strikes me the more intelligent way to do things would be to discover from the fat or somehow else the ids of the files in the last sector. Is there no way of doing this ?? How can you read the fat ? I figure with a bit of math I can work out how to read the darned thing. begin:vcard n:Howe;Stephen tel;pager:none tel;cell:Italy(39) 335 710 7756 tel;fax:Italy(39) 081 575 5835 tel;home:Italy(39) 081 598 3133 tel;work:Italy(39) 081 598 3133 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:SDI (Tel: Italy (39) 081 598 3133 Fax:Italy(39)081 575 5835) adr:;;Via F. Russo,19;NAPOLI;;80123;ITALY version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Principal x-mozilla-cpt:;32480 fn:Stephen Howe end:vcard
Sound speed problems
Hi everybody! I have installed a happily running woody on my notebook. Now I've installed potato on my girlfriend's computer (a Compaq Presario 9500 with Pentium 120 MHz processor and 40 MB RAM). In general things are fine except two points: too small resolution (other topic) and sound. The other operating system installed previously told that the sound card is an ISA PnP ESS ES1788 card. Now, I've read in the kernel docs that the sb module supports those cards and compiled module support for them into the kernel. After modprobing sb, looking at /proc/sound gives: OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130 Load type: Driver loaded as a module Kernel: Linux geeko 2.2.15 #1 Tue Aug 1 21:28:26 CEST 2000 i586 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Card config: Audio devices: 0: ESS ES1888 AudioDrive (rev 11) (3.01) Synth devices: Midi devices: 0: ESS ES1688 Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster Ok, now the problem: The sound is playing but way too slow (I'd say factor 2 too slow). How can double the speed sound is played back? On my notebook the maestro driver works straight out of the box, so I don't have any experience with sound card settings. TIA. Greetings, Stefan. -- Stefan Bellon * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sbellon.de/ We have commited to quickly disseminate high-quality leadership skills and collaboratively restore low-risk high-yield meta-services to meet our customers needs.
X with a S3 Trio64V+ card
Hi everybody! Does anybody have a XF86Config file for the S3 Trio64V+ card? I've managed to get a 800x600 running, but I'd like to increase to 1024x768. Whenever I modify the XF86Config (with XF86Setup) to contain a 1024x768 ModeLine, the server dies when trying to start it. Isn't such a resolution possible with this card? TIA. Greetings, Stefan. -- Stefan Bellon * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sbellon.de/ Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot.
Re: Man -K
On 2 Aug 2000, John Hasler wrote: Andrew Sullivan writes: I thought the original poster was talking about a _full body_ search of the man pages. Do RH and SuSE really do that? Certainly, apropos doesn't -- it searches the description (at least on my system). Which would be fine if people would write proper descriptions. But they don't. And you can't describe man which has 100 pages or more in one line. I checked rpm from TurboLinux (man-1.5g-5.i386.rpm). From it's man page: -K Search for the specified string in *all* man pages. Warning: this is probably very slow! It helps to specify a section. (Just to give a rough idea, on my machine this takes about a minute per 500 man pages.) I want to know why debian don't use that version of man. -- Peter irc: #Debian.pl
Re: Man -K
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:54:42PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Piotr Krukowiecki wrote: I wonder why debian have man without -K option (searching through body of manpage, not only title), unlike RH or Suse RedHat uses a different program. But Suse uses the same man as Debian. Are you sure that Suse has the -L option? (I don't know how to get the hands on a suse machine). fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp: 6F7267F5 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
Re: ppp connection speed
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:48:32AM +0200, Philippe MICHEL wrote: Hello, I am using Debian slink, and a standard modem/pppd connection to my provider. Everything works well since years (I used the same config with Slakware) But how/where can I see with which speed the modem has been connected ?? Several graphical ppp monitors have speed indicators. wmppp is one such. Not sure of the KDE or Gnome desktops. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpNM0k0VcHhU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Man -K
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:54:42PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Piotr Krukowiecki wrote: I wonder why debian have man without -K option (searching through body of manpage, not only title), unlike RH or Suse RedHat uses a different program. Yes, I know. TurboLinux uses it too (debian uses man provided by man-db) But Suse uses the same man as Debian. Are you sure that Suse has the -L option? (I don't know how to get the hands on a suse machine). No, I'm not. I had Suse and RedHat and I remember that at least one of them had that option. But the question is why debian have chosen that version of man ? -- Peter irc: #Debian.pl
e-mail errors
Hi all, I have a domain (domain.com) and want redirect all e-mail errors from inexistentes e-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to my mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I'm using exim and potato. Thanks, Paulo Henrique
Re: ppp connection speed
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:48:32AM +0200, Philippe MICHEL wrote: Hello, I am using Debian slink, and a standard modem/pppd connection to my provider. Everything works well since years (I used the same config with Slakware) But how/where can I see with which speed the modem has been connected ?? Several graphical ppp monitors have speed indicators. wmppp is one such. Not sure of the KDE or Gnome desktops. Yes but is there no log file to register this ? Independantly from X ? ppp.log register the ip number got dynamicaly, but nothing about the baudrate... Another idee ? -- - Philippe MICHEL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Penser ne suffit pas : il faut penser à quelque chose. Jules Renard = Dispensé de Politesse envers la PUB Sauvage !!! -Pour répondre, supprimer eventuellement no_spam_ de mon adresse. -Wenn Sie antworten, bitte no_spam_ von der Adresse löschen. -If you respond to my mail, please remove the eventual no_spam_.
Console Problem
I'm having with my console nd running aplications (e.g. mutt,lynx) I'm using a laptop with 800x600 resolution, but i'm getting 640x480. How can I increase the resolution. Running potato. TIA Jack Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Man -K
Piotr Krukowiecki writes: But they don't. And you can't describe man which has 100 pages or more in one line. Of course you. More importantly, you can put the keywords that people are most likely to search for in that one line. The man foramt really ought to include a 'keywords' line, though. I want to know why debian don't use that version of man. Perhaps because you have not filed a wishlist bug against man-db suggesting that Fabrizio do so. Why don't you just write a little wrapper script for man to do this? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Console Problem
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 04:37:17PM +0900, Jack Morgan wrote: I'm having with my console nd running aplications (e.g. mutt,lynx) I'm using a laptop with 800x600 resolution, but i'm getting 640x480. How can I increase the resolution. Running potato. with framebuffer? moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: cos() in math.h ?
Hi
I was bit by this bug in my first real C program. 1986? I looked
HARD. I had to figure it out from the manuals.
With C not including some header files results in a default
prototype being used, int name(...); which may get you linked ok,
but does no checking.
ANSI C is almost C++ The authors compiled all the programs in KR II
on an early C++ compiler. If you are willing to put up with some
very small differences between the C subset of C++ and gcc's C, you
can avoid this and get considerably more static error checking at
little cost by writing in C and compiling it as C++, with or without
the error checking options below:
#include stdio.h
#include math.h
int main()
{
printf(%f\n, cos(3.14159263/4));
return 0;
}
Compile:
g++ -W -Wall --pedantic stuff.c
// no compile/link errors
output:
0.707107
As someone points out, including the headers does not get you linked
to the libraries. g++ automatically links to most libraries, as well
as doing a bit more error checking.
--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, William T Wilson wrote:
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Christophe TROESTLER wrote:
simply need to include `math.h'. However, when I compile, I got the
error:
/tmp/cc9WOsLC.o(.text+0x16): undefined reference to `cos'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
This is actually a linker error - undefined references happen when the
linker (which might be called by the compiler) tries to assemble the
object files into an executable, but can't find all the function calls
that the program wants to make. cos() is in the math library, libm.a. So
you need to add -lm to the command line.
Including math.h will allow the compiler to compile the object code
(otherwise you would get warnings or errors about the function declaration
for cos()) but the actual code that does the computation is in libm.
Re: new PC disk problem?
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:27:59AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
I received a new Dell computer last week, and after a backup of
my system tar reported problems with one file. While trying to
read that file, I get I/O errors:
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=10360592,
sector=4464737
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02 (hda), sector 4464737
Bad disk?
Should I contact Dell or test-torture it some more?
...did you run badblocks on it?
Just did, thanks. I got the number of blocks on the partition
from fdisk like so:
# fdisk -l /dev/hda | grep hda2
/dev/hda2 368 877 4096575 83 Linux
# badblocks /dev/hda2 4096575
2232368
2232369
2232370
2232371
2232372
2232373
4096572
4096573
4096574
If I understand correctly, I should reboot using a rescue boot
disk (since this is on my root partition) and run:
# e2fsck -c /dev/hda2
-c This option causes e2fsck to run the badblocks(8)
program to find any blocks which are bad on the
filesystem, and then marks them as bad by adding
them to the bad block inode.
Right?
It's bad that a brand new disk has bad blocks on it, isn't it?
Thanks again for the help, I appreciate it a lot.
Peter
Re: apt-get byte compile problem
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really doubt that any files are being deleted. Usually, .el files stay put in someplace like /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ and byte-compiled versions go in: /usr/share/emacs/19.34/site-lisp/ /usr/share/emacs/20.6/site-lisp/ /usr/share/xemacs20/site-lisp/ /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/ Peter Thanks for the reply, just to let you know, system-wide searches for .el and .elc files show totally different files find / -name *.el find / -name *.elc The .el versions of the byte compiled files are not on the system. Peter -- Peter Mickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Printing, from an Apple, to Debian, one small? problem
Ok, thanks to all the great suggestions, I can now see the Canon on the Mac+, and it tries to print. The problem is, there's no PPD file that I can find for it. Does this mean that I'm screwed? I've searched the canon site, I downloaded the canon set from Adobe, but there's nothing that even looks remotely similar to my printer in those files. (On the up side, it works like a charm with Samba on the PC, and all the Appletalk mounting is working just fine. All that's bust is this printer for the Mac) My printer is setup like this (from /etc/printcap): lp|bjc1000|Canon BJC-1000:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/bjc1000:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/bj600-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: and my papd.conf file looks like this: BJC1000:\ :pr=|lpr: AFAIK, this should spool the print jobs as the user who's printing them, but I'm worried about the lack of ppd line. The LaserWriter driver is installed on the Mac+, sees the network printer, and attempts to print to it, but it never gets to the print queue (as seen from lpq). Thanks again! Adam Toronto, Ontario, Canada
the finer points of pump configuration (dhcp cable modem)
Pump seems to be working fine from root's command line without any config customization at all; now I'd like to know the debianly correct polished way to run it. Some of the questions I haven't found answered in the documentation are: Where do I specify that it should run when the system is booted? I would also like to be able to start/stop it using a left/right click on my eth0 monitoring app. However, although it is world executable, it simply quits if an unprivileged user runs it, saying pump: must be run as root. What is the purpose of the /etc/default/pump? And what's the equivalent of /etc/ppp/ip-up when using a cable modem (I'm wondering where a firewall script should be called from.). thanx. (cc not req'd, I read the ng)
Re: disk partition using fips
Quoting SDI Semiconductor Instruments\ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): So I duely ran noton and defragged, which put all the stuff in the first 10% of the disk. But, looking on the map , the last sector had hidden files on it. So I turned on visualization in Win 98ofhidden file types.and system files- a total of 7 megs ! I realize that I can change all the file attributes somehow (I've yet to find the command under dos ), and then re-defrag , then re-attribute the files asa before. But it strikes me the more intelligent way to do things would be to discover from the fat or somehow else the ids of the files in the last sector. Is there no way of doing this ?? How can you read the fat ? When I did this for my first Debian system on a W95 computer, I just used the ATTRIB *.* command to find the names of the files that were RSH. Then I did ATTRIB -r -s -h FILENAME and copied them, deleted the original, renamed the copy and put +r +s +h back. (The copies landed just after the freshly defragged files.) I think I checked that I hit the right files by just trying FIPS until it didn't complain. There were very few of them. BTW I had probably turned off any swapfile before I started. I would imagine that moving an active swapfile would be very dangerous as this is one case where absolute disk addresses are likely to be used. (LILO's /boot is another.) Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Eterm upgrade
I just updated from eterm_0.8.10-10 to eterm_0.9.0-7 last night. Although the new version plays much more nicely with WindowMaker, the process has been somewhat less than pleasant, what with changes to configuration options and even the name of the theme files changeing, but I've got it mostly working now. A few problems persist, however: - Most importantly, my Home and End keys no longer work. I tried installing the Eterm.ti from /usr/share/doc/eterm, but it came back with a number of errors. I've also tried changing $TERM from xterm (the new default) to xterm-debian (the old default), but that had no effect - either way, home/ end just beep and display a ~. - Menus do not appear to be functional. theme.cfg includes menus.cfg, which I assume to be valid, but no menu appears. - When pasting text into an Eterm, the cursor changes into a hollow block, which typically indicates a nonfocused window, even though the Eterm retains focus. Moving the mouse over another window and back (I use sloppy focus mode) restores it, but it can be a tad confusing... Any tips on fixing these problems (other than go back to 0.8.10)? -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Adapted AHA1542 Problems.
Hey again. I've got an old ISA AHA-1542CF SCSI card in my new fileserver. The bios for the card boots up OK, and I can see all devices on it (just a zip drive right now, ID 6), but the card isn't being seen in Debian. I compiled the driver as a module (I've recompiled a much nicer kernel already, cut the size in half), and the module's available in Modconf, but I get a Device or resource busy, and the installation fails. One of the message states that this may be caused by an invalid IO, IRQ, or DMA. The IO is non-standard, I have it on 0x130. So, I tried to fix that with a boot parameter, aha1542=0x130, but that doesn't seem to have done anything either. Would someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks very much! Adam Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Cc: to poster (was Re: OT: less v. more...)
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: On 02 Aug 2000, Bolan Meek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On topics arisen from this discussion, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: ...BTW, please refrain from sending to _both_ the list and me, I read the list. ... One may assume that those whose names one sees often are subuscribed, but how to be sure, generally? I propose ...In general, on open lists you should assume one is reading the list s/he is posting to Ah, good, so, with this assumption, one ought to remove the personal To:'s and Cc:'s, unless requested? (Like you did..) a habit of including in the .sig a notice: I'm on this list ...And how should I know what e.g. Ben had in his signature about being on the list or not? How should one know what your intention was to Cc: him? This might work for the first time, but not for the next replies (which, on a discussion-list are very likely). Well, if his .sig was respected, he should no longer be in the Cc: list, in the first place. But the point is taken about the .sig not being worth much for this, as a convention. It also occurs to me that some might not want to yield their .sig space for this, in favor of whatever political/religious/humor message. ... Brian May wrote: Gerfried == Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gerfried I go another way: I included now a header that should Gerfried be respected by most MUAs: Mail-CopiesTo: never The mail-copies-to header does sound good, but I have mixed feelings as to if it really solves the problems. Oh, BTW, Mail-CopiesTo: never is obsolete, use nobody instead. See http://www.newsreaders.com/misc/mail-copies-to.html Mostly coming from this: Gerfried I think newcomers should rather be guided to _not_ Cc: Gerfried one posting to a list than to rely on some obscure Gerfried sentence in one's signature. The header I noticed is a Gerfried proposed draft that is included in some MUAs, and will Gerfried quite possibly be in by more in the future. OK. So henceforth, my practice will be to remove personal Cc:s Thank you. ... I would prefer another header (does the followup-to header do this??), that is like reply-to:, except it works for group followups, rather then private replies. Even better, if it supported mailing lists *and* newsgroups... If the poster hasn't submitted one, the mailing list software could add a default one. If there is already a header, it shouldn't be replaced. Another-words, I think it should be up to the sender to specify exactly where the group reply should go. If the sender doesn't say, then the mailing list should be able to specify. This should happen without affecting private replies (so reply-to can't be used). One problem I have, is that posts come to me From: the poster, and my MUA doesn't respect the Resent-from: header, so if I `Reply`, it goes only to the poster, but when I `Reply-all`, the list is Cc:ed. I haven't noticed a Followup-to: header (but I haven't sought them, either), so I don't know what my MUA shall do with those. -- I'm on the -user list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
Re: Cc: to poster (was Re: OT: less v. more...)
Frankly, I'd appreciate it if you guys would stop CC:'ing *me* in this discussion, which is *way* sidetracked from what I wrote.
System locking
Hello, some weeks ago, my system began to lock. Everything locks -- including the keyboard (so the SysRq key doesn't help). I've bought a new CPU fan, becuase I thought it could be the problem... But that didn't help. I also thought it could be memory, but I have been compiling kernels (sort of 5 times a week) and other big things (like Berlin), and I never got any errors during these compilations... I also thought it could be xmms, but it locekd without it running... And this happened with both 2.4.0-test5 and 2.2.16 kernels! Can this be an X problem? It did not happen when I ws using X 4.0.1, but it did happen when I went back to 3.3.6... Did anyone hve that sort of problem? Any ideas of what may be happening? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, J. -- Jeronimo Pellegrini Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: holly crap!
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Andrei Ivanov wrote: I've done somethig very bad.. I did: rm * /var/spool/fax/outgoing I was user not root (little sigh), but I lost a lot of data.. Is there ANYWAY to recover all the lost files in /home/me ??? I guess you were in home when you did that. Well, nope. Unless you made backups, whatever you deleted is now gone. I dont think there's a way to recover it. I'd love to know a way, though, if there is one. (Perhaps a little modification could be done to rm commandmake a recovery bin of a sort, copy files into there up to certain size, not delete them. But thats up to individual sysadmins to implement) Andrei Not much luck. A quick search came up with some interesting links though: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Ext2fs-Undeletion.html http://www.faxandbackup.com/linux.htm -- Nitebirdz http://www.linuxnovice.org Tips, articles, news, links...
Re: holly crap!
Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: Help, PLEASE HELP I've done somethig very bad.. I did: rm * /var/spool/fax/outgoing I was user not root (little sigh), but I lost a lot of data.. Is there ANYWAY to recover all the lost files in /home/me ??? thanks . . . The Ext2fs Undeletion mini-HOWTO may be of some help. I've never tried file recovery on ext2fs myself. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Ext2fs-Undeletion.html Tom
Re: disk partition using fips
Since you have Norton Utilities, be aware that the Image program that comes with it will typically keep a couple files at the end of a partition. These files will be in the root directory and have names like image.bak, image.idx, image.dat. If you have those they can be safely deleted - Image will regenerate them when you run it again. Also be aware that Image can be configured to run automatically at boot, so if you have that feature enabled, it will recreate those files the next time you boot. Another way that has worked for me is to run the Win98 Defrag program form Start - Run like this: defrag c: /p (assuming this is the c: drive) The /p should put all files at the beginning of the partition, leaving all free space in a conitguous block at the end. Tom \SDI \\\Semiconductor Instruments wrote: I would dearly like to repartition a drive on my systemto give me MORE spacefor linux. So I duely ran noton and defragged, which put all the stuff in the first 10% of the disk. But, looking on the map , the last sector had hidden files on it. So I turned on visualization in Win 98ofhidden file types.and system files- a total of 7 megs ! I realize that I can change all the file attributes somehow (I've yet to find the command under dos ), and then re-defrag , then re-attribute the files asa before. But it strikes me the more intelligent way to do things would be to discover from the fat or somehow else the ids of the files in the last sector. Is there no way of doing this ?? How can you read the fat ? I figure with a bit of math I can work out how to read the darned thing.
Re: System locking
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 12:42:10PM -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: Hello, some weeks ago, my system began to lock. Everything locks -- including the keyboard (so the SysRq key doesn't help). I've bought a new CPU fan, becuase I thought it could be the problem... But that didn't help. I also thought it could be memory, but I have been compiling kernels (sort of 5 times a week) and other big things (like Berlin), and I never got any errors during these compilations... I also thought it could be xmms, but it locekd without it running... And this happened with both 2.4.0-test5 and 2.2.16 kernels! Can this be an X problem? It did not happen when I ws using X 4.0.1, but it did happen when I went back to 3.3.6... Did anyone hve that sort of problem? If the NFS-Server hangs where I get my $HOME from, I got this problem, too. But I can still telnet to this machine. Using X3.3.6, enlightment 0.16.3) -- Thomas Guettler Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interface-business.de Private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://yi.org/guettli
Re: Network Printing, from an Apple, to Debian, one small? problem
Adam Scriven wrote: The problem is, there's no PPD file that I can find for it. You need a ppd file for Apple Laser Writers, not for Canon's. LaserWriter Personal NTR(APLWNTR1.PPD) should work. If you don't have it already, you can download it from: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/printerdrivers/mac/all/ppdfiles/apple.sit.hqx hope this helps, abe
Re: new PC disk problem?
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:35:03AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:27:59AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
I received a new Dell computer last week, and after a backup of
my system tar reported problems with one file. While trying to
read that file, I get I/O errors:
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=10360592,
sector=4464737
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02 (hda), sector 4464737
Bad disk?
Should I contact Dell or test-torture it some more?
...did you run badblocks on it?
Just did, thanks. I got the number of blocks on the partition
from fdisk like so:
# fdisk -l /dev/hda | grep hda2
/dev/hda2 368 877 4096575 83 Linux
# badblocks /dev/hda2 4096575
2232368
2232369
...
If I understand correctly, I should reboot using a rescue boot
disk (since this is on my root partition) and run:
# e2fsck -c /dev/hda2
-c This option causes e2fsck to run the badblocks(8)
program to find any blocks which are bad on the
filesystem, and then marks them as bad by adding
them to the bad block inode.
Right?
Not sure as I've never had to deal with a disk with bad blocks on it.
It's bad that a brand new disk has bad blocks on it, isn't it?
Yes. I'd return it for an exchange to the vendor.
--
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org
What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
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Re: ppp connection speed
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 01:55:51PM +0200, Philippe MICHEL wrote: kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:48:32AM +0200, Philippe MICHEL wrote: Hello, I am using Debian slink, and a standard modem/pppd connection to my provider. Everything works well since years (I used the same config with Slakware) But how/where can I see with which speed the modem has been connected ?? Several graphical ppp monitors have speed indicators. wmppp is one such. Not sure of the KDE or Gnome desktops. Yes but is there no log file to register this ? Independantly from X ? ppp.log register the ip number got dynamicaly, but nothing about the baudrate... Another idee ? The raw information is available under /proc/net, and possibly elsewhere. You might be able to pull something together from that. You could also check sites such as Freshmeat for a tool that logs ppp0 buad rates or transfer speed. I'm not aware of one, this doesn't mean it doesn't exist. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpUwN5T0WL3Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: new PC disk problem?
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:27:59AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
I received a new Dell computer last week, and after a backup of
my system tar reported problems with one file. While trying to
read that file, I get I/O errors:
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError },LBAsect=10360592,
sector=4464737
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:02 (hda), sector 4464737
Bad disk?
Should I contact Dell or test-torture it some more?
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
...did you run badblocks on it?
Peter S Galbraith wrote:
Just did, thanks. I got the number of blocks on the partition
from fdisk like so:
# fdisk -l /dev/hda | grep hda2
/dev/hda2 368 877 4096575 83 Linux
# badblocks /dev/hda2 4096575
2232368
2232369
[cut]
If I understand correctly, I should reboot using a rescue boot
disk (since this is on my root partition) and run:
# e2fsck -c /dev/hda2
-c This option causes e2fsck to run the badblocks(8)
program to find any blocks which are bad on the
filesystem, and then marks them as bad by adding
them to the bad block inode.
Right?
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Not sure as I've never had to deal with a disk with bad blocks on it.
I did that, and it seems to have worked (that is, I made a tar
backup afterwards without errors). I'll run badblocks on all
other partitions on that disk to check (Will take a _long_ time,
it's a 45GB disk).
It's bad that a brand new disk has bad blocks on it, isn't it?
Yes. I'd return it for an exchange to the vendor.
Thanks. (That'll cost me some time!)
Peter
Re: Cc: to poster (was Re: OT: less v. more...)
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:34:35AM -0500, Bolan Meek wrote: Gerfried Fuchs wrote: On 02 Aug 2000, Bolan Meek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On topics arisen from this discussion, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: ...BTW, please refrain from sending to _both_ the list and me, I read the list. ... One may assume that those whose names one sees often are subuscribed, but how to be sure, generally? I propose ...In general, on open lists you should assume one is reading the list s/he is posting to Ah, good, so, with this assumption, one ought to remove the personal To:'s and Cc:'s, unless requested? (Like you did..) $0.02: Posts to list are responded to on list. Mutt supports this through the L (rely to list) keybinding. This also gets around (and moots) mailing list software that defaults to reply to sender rather than reply to list. My procmail filters tend to dump list mail cc's to my list folder -- cc's to me just result in duplicate items within the list folder. I'll cc a person who requests an off-list response. I generally don't cotton personal requests I recieve as followups to a response I've made on list (with or without a cc), though a status update is sometimes interesting. I'll forward a direct support request made to me rather than a list to the list unless it comes from a personal friend. I find this behavior unspeakably rude. I've had this policy for years on a number of mailing lists. ...and I generally try to scan headers to see that I don't propogate cc: lists, though I'll sometimes slip. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpB69ntKI42o.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fw: Free Linux Journal T-Shirt!
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 08:58:46PM +0200, Jürgen A. Erhard wrote: kmself == kmself kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: [...] kmself It's also worth noting that Slackware wasn't listed, nor kmself were any of the *BSDs. BSD? Uhm, Karsten, last I checked, it was still the Linux journal. ;-) Not to pick nits, but I see it more as Journal of Things Related to Linux and other Free Unices, and Free Software That Runs On Them, as Well As All Those Legacy Proprietary Companies Which Are Trying To Join Get On the Bandwagon, but that doesn't leave enough cover space for the picture of Linus and the obligatory Ewing Tux image. LJ has run articles on software other than Linux, licensed under terms other than free, and has included the occasional *BSD item to boot. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpKBDXOSm7Iv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Alpha install
I just went through the install for potato on an AlphaServer 400 4/166 system, and everything went fine, but when I reboot it does not take me into the OS, I just get the SRM prompt again. I try booting from the floppy again with boot dva0 -file linux -flag root=/dev/sda2 and it loads the kernel, gets just past mouting the root filesystem, then kernel panics with.. Warning: unable to open an initial console Kernal PanicL No init found. Try passing init= option to the kernel but I have no idea what to do for this, can anyone help? Also, when I try to run boot dka100 it complains about there not being a boot loader present.. Chad Dale Software Developer Versus Technologies Inc (416) 214-7949 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adapted AHA1542 Problems.
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote: already, cut the size in half), and the module's available in Modconf, but I get a Device or resource busy, and the installation fails. i used to have the same problem. So, I tried to fix that with a boot parameter, aha1542=0x130, but that doesn't seem to have done anything either. each time i re-install windows on the box (every 6 months, tops), it fscks the pnp info on every card, so i sometimes have to set my card on pnp or manual config. when this happens, changing the io address fixes the device or resource busy problem. if you can, you may want to try changing the card io address and passing the new value to the module. not the nicest solution, but has worked for me before. hope that helps, alberto.
Re: Adapted AHA1542 Problems.
At 11:11 2000/08/03 -0600, you wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote: So, I tried to fix that with a boot parameter, aha1542=0x130, but that doesn't seem to have done anything either. each time i re-install windows on the box (every 6 months, tops), it fscks the pnp info on every card, so i sometimes have to set my card on pnp or manual config. when this happens, changing the io address fixes the device or resource busy problem. if you can, you may want to try changing the card io address and passing the new value to the module. not the nicest solution, but has worked for me before. Hrm...the only thing is, I haven't used the card in quite a long time, not in a windows box or anything...for like 6 months. I'll give it a try, tho (Of course, I just pushed the server back into it's spot, so I've gotta pull the [EMAIL PROTECTED] thing out again. 8-) Thanks! Adam Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Re: gzipped readmes in /usr/doc/*
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 06:20:29PM -0500, Kent West wrote: [Only HTML] Cut it out, would you please... Sven -- Windows does *not* have bugs. It just develops random features.
Re: System locking
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 12:42:10PM -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: Hello, some weeks ago, my system began to lock. Everything locks -- including the keyboard (so the SysRq key doesn't help). I've bought a new CPU fan, becuase I thought it could be the problem... But that didn't help. I also thought it could be memory, but I have been compiling kernels (sort of 5 times a week) and other big things (like Berlin), and I never got any errors during these compilations... I also thought it could be xmms, but it locekd without it running... And this happened with both 2.4.0-test5 and 2.2.16 kernels! Can this be an X problem? It did not happen when I ws using X 4.0.1, but it did happen when I went back to 3.3.6... Did anyone hve that sort of problem? Any ideas of what may be happening? I've had similar problems which turned out to be an interaction between smbfs and the 2.2.14 kernel. Drove me nuts for months. Try going back to a known stable configuration, then figuring out what specific change breaks things. I don't know what specifically is wrong in your case, but I've experienced (and heard of) occasional conflicts between components causing hard locks. In my case, I ruled out hardware by doing a full system migration. Swapped literally everything, and the symptoms persisted. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpTixCPdVMzf.pgp Description: PGP signature
find question
Hi,
can somebody help me with this one?
% find `pwd` \( -name *.log -o -name *.aux \)
/home/shao/report/main.log
/home/shao/report/main.aux
/home/shao/report/title.aux
/home/shao/report/abstract.aux
% find `pwd` \( -name *.log -o -name *.aux \) -exec 'rm {}' ';'
find: rm /home/shao/report/main.log: No such file or directory
find: rm /home/shao/report/main.aux: No such file or directory
find: rm /home/shao/report/title.aux: No such file or directory
find: rm /home/shao/report/abstract.aux: No such file or directory
Thanks for any help in advance.
Regards,
Shao.
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Re: X with a S3 Trio64V+ card
Stefan Bellon wrote: Hi everybody! Does anybody have a XF86Config file for the S3 Trio64V+ card? I've managed to get a 800x600 running, but I'd like to increase to 1024x768. Whenever I modify the XF86Config (with XF86Setup) to contain a 1024x768 ModeLine, the server dies when trying to start it. Isn't such a resolution possible with this card? I have S3 Trio64V+ in a EonTronics Renoir card, originally with 1MB, lately upgraded to 2MB. I have 1152x7??x16bpp. I had to use 1152x7?? at 8bpp until my upgrade. What color depth are you trying to use? Please be sure to Cc: both my addresses, since I'm dropping off the list until after the weekend. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
Re: ppp connection speed
Karsten M. Self writes: The raw information is available under /proc/net,... That is just the speed of the connection from the computer to the modem. It is generally much higher then the modem bit rate (not baud rate. There is an AT command to tell your modem to report the bit rate and a chat option to tell it to log the modem report. Read your modem manual and man chat. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: noise from monitor, HELP!
Oh, I forgot to post this... only sent it to John. - Original Message - From: Stephan Hachinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 12:49 PM Subject: Re: noise from monitor, HELP! Hello! Now all of a sudden I get a VERY high pitched noise from it when in X. It does not do this on the console! It has become more and more frequent and is starting to drive me nuts (well more then usual :) I know it's the monitor because I can turn it off while it's doing it and the noise stops. Does anyone know what the problem might be? If it is a regular CRT-style monitor, there are wire coils wrapped around the CRT to deflect the electron beam to provide horizontal vertical deflection; these are probably glued in place (or at least, in bundles) using epoxy resin or something similar. Probably, the epoxy has cracked or come loose from whatever it's anchored to at some point and what you can hear is some or all of the windings on the horizontal deflection coil rattling back and forth in time to the horizontal scan, in accordance with Newton's laws (For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction). Just maybe, it's some other part of your monitor's yoke doing the same thing. It's irritating as hell if you can hear it, but it shouldn't affect the monitor's performance or reliability. John is right! It's probably one of the wire coils, as I just read on a German homepage. Andrew wrote: I usually just hit mine :) He's wrong, I think. Hitting electronic components indeed stops many problems, but in this case, the deflection coils get even more loose and so it's just a temporary solution. Possible solutions: - Pay someone to fix it. If you take it in for a service, be *very*clear* about the problem or it probably won't get fixed (chances are, most of their techs won't be able to hear it). This is the only one I suggest! Or perhaps, at a lower or higher vertical frequency, the noise does not appear any more. You can also try to fix the coils yourself. But be aware of HIGH VOLTAGES appearing in monitors even if they are plugged off. There are capacitors installed. So, if you wanna fix them, put on rubber gloves. And start the repair after you have plugged it off for some hours. Don't touch any metal parts if possible, because there are maybe still parts carrying high voltage. To repair it, simply open the case, locate the coils and fix them using epoxy 2-component glue. If the problem does not disappear after this action, maybe it wasn't caused by the deflection coils but by the line transformer (this is how Germans call it, I don't know if this is good English). I've read that this transformer can be located by backtracing the thick anode cable starting at the picure tube. The site said you can fix the parts of this transformer using plastic spray. Does anyone know if epoxy also works? I think so. *IMPROTANT* If you open the monitor case, the granted guarantee period is definitely aborted and over. And I have once opened a monitor using thick rubber gloves, but never done the above to any. So I do not know what the result will be. If you don't know about electronics, you should better have it fixed by anyone else instead of lying kind of ESD-demaged besides your monitor and not moving any more. But it is very likely that fixing the deflection coils will fix the problem for the next years. About the plastic spray: I do not know what it is and if it works and what happens if you don't spray it only on your trafo but also on the rest of the electrics by accident. I've only read about it. Regards, Stephan Hachinger
Re: ppp connection speed
kmself@ix.netcom.com (kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 01:55:51PM +0200, Philippe MICHEL wrote: kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:48:32AM +0200, Philippe MICHEL wrote: Hello, I am using Debian slink, and a standard modem/pppd connection to my provider. Everything works well since years (I used the same config with Slakware) But how/where can I see with which speed the modem has been connected ?? Several graphical ppp monitors have speed indicators. wmppp is one such. Not sure of the KDE or Gnome desktops. Yes but is there no log file to register this ? Independantly from X ? ppp.log register the ip number got dynamicaly, but nothing about the baudrate... Another idee ? The raw information is available under /proc/net, and possibly elsewhere. You might be able to pull something together from that. You could also check sites such as Freshmeat for a tool that logs ppp0 buad rates or transfer speed. I'm not aware of one, this doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Excuse the interuption here (I missed the first message) but on every potato install I've done (not sure about slink... been too long!) pppd reports all interesting information to '/var/log/messages' and all ppp data to '/var/log/ppp.log' Here is a quick listing of mine: # grep Aug 3 /var/log/ppp.log | grep chat | grep / Aug 3 08:48:53 mustang chat[9861]: 26400/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS^M Looking more closely I see this is text my provider sends during connection (along with other info) and not something from pppd or it's friends. This may not be useful to you (probably not) but you may want to try adding ECHO ON to your '/etc/chatscripts/provider' so that any such messages get logged. HTH, Ron -- Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: http://www.farrer.net/~rbf/ ICQ: pulsar 26276320 pgpMruSzSObTE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Palm packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi debians, Looking into the local package database with dpkg -l *palm* I found two packages concerning palm, namel gcc-mk68-palmos anf binutils-m68k-palmos. If I understand weel, they allows to install a cross-compiler for palmos. Now, doing dselect I'm unable ti find these packages... Here is my /etc/apt/source.list deb http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main deb http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free deb-src http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main deb-src http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free Could someone explain me how to find these packages? And, by the way, how happens that there are packages that I can find with dpkg -l but not with dselect? - -- Leo TheHobbit IRCnet #leiene ICQ 56656060 - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GED/CS d? s-:+-: a C+++ U+++ L++(+++) P E+(++) W++ N+ K? o? !w O? M V--- PS+++ PE-- Y+ GPG+ t++ 5? X- R+ tv+ b D? DI? G e()* h(+) r--(---) y(+)--+++* - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iD8DBQE5ibN1v9iOG/S6owkRAonjAKCZiu7EPLmRd9U/z2QeEBNAv4IFzACgh+4P //jXlOmDFvdIQtCeCUlRk7E= =NnBX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
What do I have to do to get my server running?
Hey, I'm turning my Linux into a server for my family's to Windoze machines, but I'm not sure what exactly to do. I've installed the Samba packages, and compiled SMB support into the kernel. I've got my NE2000 working, so now I just need to know how to connect to the network. Any help would be appreciated. (My server will be somewhat useless, as their are only two computers it's serving, but I'm doing it for the learning experience) Thanks, Cameron Matheson
Re: ppp connection speed
On 3 Aug 2000, John Hasler wrote: Karsten M. Self writes: The raw information is available under /proc/net,... That is just the speed of the connection from the computer to the modem. It is generally much higher then the modem bit rate (not baud rate. higher rate useful for on the fly modem compression/decompression of compressible data. Yes, just play with the AT commands manually using just a serial connection to get bit rate - modem protocol. Automate it later. Rule of thumb (thumbs may vary) an ftp transfer of ~4000 chars per second for a well compressed file (zip etc.) for a 28k connection. There is an AT command to tell your modem to report the bit rate and a chat option to tell it to log the modem report. Read your modem manual and man chat. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Alpha install
Chad Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I just went through the install for potato on an AlphaServer 400 4/166 system, and everything went fine, but when I reboot it does not take me into the OS, I just get the SRM prompt again. I try booting from the floppy again with boot dva0 -file linux -flag root=/dev/sda2 and it loads the kernel, gets just past mouting the root filesystem, then kernel panics with.. Warning: unable to open an initial console Kernal PanicL No init found. Try passing init= option to the kernel but I have no idea what to do for this, can anyone help? Also, when I try to run boot dka100 it complains about there not being a boot loader present.. I'm CC'ing debian-alpha since that's where most of us hang out... Ok the first thing I'm curious about is whether your kernel image is really 'linux' usually it is something along the lines of 'boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14'. Second are you sure 'sda2' is your root partion? While very possible that it is, usually (at least in my experince) it starts somewhere around 'sda5' or 'sda6' (but I could be wrong!) Also did you setup aboot? You should have left some space at the begining of the drive for aboot since SRM doesn't know anything about partitions. HTH, Ron -- Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: http://www.farrer.net/~rbf/ ICQ: pulsar 26276320 pgpfBC1RvRV7u.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X with a S3 Trio64V+ card
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bolan Meek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Bellon wrote: [1024x768 on S3 Trio64V+] Isn't such a resolution possible with this card? I have S3 Trio64V+ in a EonTronics Renoir card, originally with 1MB, lately upgraded to 2MB. I have 1152x7??x16bpp. I had to use 1152x7?? at 8bpp until my upgrade. I think an upgrade is not possible. What color depth are you trying to use? Well, I'd like to use the highest color depth possible at 1024x768. 800x600 simply is too small to work with. Do you have your old XF86Config around somewhere? Or do you remember what color depth was possible at 1024x768 before the upgrade? Thank you very much for your response! You're giving me hope back again. :-) Greetings, Stefan. -- Stefan Bellon * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sbellon.de/ Saying your OS is better because more people use it is like saying McDonald's make the best food in the world.
Re: find question
% find `pwd` \( -name *.log -o -name *.aux \) -exec 'rm {}' ';'
find: rm /home/shao/report/main.log: No such file or directory
It tries to execute command rm[space]/home/shao/report/main.log. Of course
there is no such command. You should execute 'rm' with filename as a parameter;
so write
rm '{}' ';'
instead of
'rm {}' ';'
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Re: holly crap!
Hello, I wanted to drop this back to the list and thank EVERYONE who took a moment to reply to my major oopsie I have never done something to was so destructive and so very fast - yup, linux is truly a power OS.. I did loose it all. I was going to copy the whole hd, so I installed a new 20 gig wd... On boot, linux decided it had to clean hda.. Nuff said.. But I can deal with it. Yes, Lost a lot of neat stuff that should have been put away in a much cleaner manor. Yes, backups ARE required, often. Yes, the CD-R/RW has now been installed! Still, thank you all. You will probably never understand how much help you have been to me in my blind linux pursuits. Regards On Wed, 02 Aug 2000, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: Help, PLEASE HELP I've done somethig very bad.. I did: rm * /var/spool/fax/outgoing I was user not root (little sigh), but I lost a lot of data.. Is there ANYWAY to recover all the lost files in /home/me ??? thanks . . . -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Broken X
If anyone could help me with this I'd appreciate it. I've just installed debian potato test-cycle-1 (some cds I bought at UK Linux Expo 2000). However whenever I run X I get the following message: Fatal Server Error: cannot open mouse (No such file or directory) I decided to create the directory /dev/mouse and /dev/tty00 and I've tried pointing xf86config at them and I now get the following error Fatal Server Error: cannot open mouse (is a directory) I have an Microsoft Optical Intellimouse Explorer (I don't like their software, but this is a VERY nice mouse) on the PS/2 port. Phil.
Re: disk partition using fips
In the meantime, I actually worked out a crummy, lowtech solution to the problem. I happened to have an old version of a Windows disk tool called NUTS AND BOLTS by McAffee. If you go into the disk defragmenting section of this toolset, it shows a detailed display of what is in all of the blocks on the disk when you move the mouse over the graphical display which is REALLY NEAT ( unlike the rest of the package .). I discovered that the last block of the disk was filled with files from my Notron Utilities Version 3.07. The offending files were all from the LIVEUPDATE directory. Eurrggh ! (I removed them by deleting the whole directory- who needs updates !!!???). Then FIPS worked fine. Of course, for the price of the Nuts and Bolts software, I'm sure you could buy a newbie-friendly disk partitioning package like partition magic. I'd still love to know how to read FATs from DOS David Wright wrote: Quoting SDI Semiconductor Instruments\ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): So I duely ran noton and defragged, which put all the stuff in the first 10% of the disk. But, looking on the map , the last sector had hidden files on it. So I turned on visualization in Win 98ofhidden file types.and system files- a total of 7 megs ! I realize that I can change all the file attributes somehow (I've yet to find the command under dos ), and then re-defrag , then re-attribute the files asa before. But it strikes me the more intelligent way to do things would be to discover from the fat or somehow else the ids of the files in the last sector. Is there no way of doing this ?? How can you read the fat ? When I did this for my first Debian system on a W95 computer, I just used the ATTRIB *.* command to find the names of the files that were RSH. Then I did ATTRIB -r -s -h FILENAME and copied them, deleted the original, renamed the copy and put +r +s +h back. (The copies landed just after the freshly defragged files.) I think I checked that I hit the right files by just trying FIPS until it didn't complain. There were very few of them. BTW I had probably turned off any swapfile before I started. I would imagine that moving an active swapfile would be very dangerous as this is one case where absolute disk addresses are likely to be used. (LILO's /boot is another.) Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised. begin:vcard n:Howe;Stephen tel;pager:none tel;cell:Italy(39) 335 710 7756 tel;fax:Italy(39) 081 575 5835 tel;home:Italy(39) 081 598 3133 tel;work:Italy(39) 081 598 3133 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:SDI (Tel: Italy (39) 081 598 3133 Fax:Italy(39)081 575 5835) adr:;;Via F. Russo,19;NAPOLI;;80123;ITALY version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Principal x-mozilla-cpt:;32480 fn:Stephen Howe end:vcard
