Re: Slink en el portatil:descomprime el núcleo pero se bloquea

2000-08-04 Thread Jaime E. Villate
Fermín Manzanedo wrote:
 Hola, soy novato novato :) y creo que me vas a tener que decir como arrancar
 sin el runlevel para ir cargando manualmente.
Al arrancar, obliga el prompt del Lilo a aparecer y le respondes algo
así:
   Lilo: linux single

Entrarás como root y sin iniciar todos los servicios que se cargan
manualmente. Después te vas a /etc/rc2.d donde tendrás algo así (te
muestro como está em mi Toshiba CDS, desde el cual te escribo usando
Debian sin ningún problema!)

S10sysklogd S20dictd  S20lprng   S20ssh  S89atd
S11pcmcia   S20exim   S20makedev S20xfs  S89cron
S12kerneld  S20gpmS20modcleanS20xntp3S91apache
S15netstd_init  S20inetd  S20omniorb S22ntpdate 
S91apache-ssl
S18portmap  S20isdnutils  S20postgresql  S23ntp 
S99rmnologin
S20anacron  S20jserv  S20ppp S30netstd_misc  S99wdm
S20apmd S20logoutdS20rwhod   S50junkbuster

Ir cargando manualmente quiere decir que para cada enlace que comienza
por S, tienes que hacer lo siguiente:
  ./S10sysklogd start
respetando el orden numérico de los dos dígitos después de S.

Pero mas fácil aún, para que no tengas que cargar todo manualmente, te
recomiendo que hagas lo siguiente:
   rm S11pcmcia
Como dices que no tienes tarjetas pcmcia, no lo necesitarás. Después
vuelve a salir y entra normalmente; ahora ya no se te debe quedar
bloqueado en la parte del PCMCIA.

Suerte,
Jaime Villate



Re: xmovie (el progama, no es porno :)

2000-08-04 Thread Camilo Alejandro Arboleda


On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:50:36 you wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 10:16:04AM -0500, Camilo Alejandro Arboleda [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 En woody funciona (supongo que en potato también).

Lástima porque yo aún tengo slink (el r5, pero slink). Será esperar :(


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RE: Slink en el portatil:descomprime el núcleo pero se bloquea

2000-08-04 Thread Fermín Manzanedo
Hola!!
por fin, esta vez parece que si funciona ;-D ya estoy instalando paquetes.

Saludos,

Fermín Manzanedo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.astrored.net/elsol
GNU/Linux Debian 2.1 Slink.
Usuario #184967

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From: Jaime E. Villate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Fermín Manzanedo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Lista usuarios Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Slink en el portatil:descomprime el núcleo pero se bloquea


 Fermín Manzanedo wrote:
  Hola, soy novato novato :) y creo que me vas a tener que decir como
arrancar
  sin el runlevel para ir cargando manualmente.
 Al arrancar, obliga el prompt del Lilo a aparecer y le respondes algo
 así:
Lilo: linux single

 Entrarás como root y sin iniciar todos los servicios que se cargan
 manualmente. Después te vas a /etc/rc2.d donde tendrás algo así (te
 muestro como está em mi Toshiba CDS, desde el cual te escribo usando
 Debian sin ningún problema!)

 S10sysklogd S20dictd  S20lprng   S20ssh  S89atd
 S11pcmcia   S20exim   S20makedev S20xfs  S89cron
 S12kerneld  S20gpmS20modcleanS20xntp3S91apache
 S15netstd_init  S20inetd  S20omniorb S22ntpdate
 S91apache-ssl
 S18portmap  S20isdnutils  S20postgresql  S23ntp
 S99rmnologin
 S20anacron  S20jserv  S20ppp S30netstd_misc  S99wdm
 S20apmd S20logoutdS20rwhod   S50junkbuster

 Ir cargando manualmente quiere decir que para cada enlace que comienza
 por S, tienes que hacer lo siguiente:
   ./S10sysklogd start
 respetando el orden numérico de los dos dígitos después de S.

 Pero mas fácil aún, para que no tengas que cargar todo manualmente, te
 recomiendo que hagas lo siguiente:
rm S11pcmcia
 Como dices que no tienes tarjetas pcmcia, no lo necesitarás. Después
 vuelve a salir y entra normalmente; ahora ya no se te debe quedar
 bloqueado en la parte del PCMCIA.

 Suerte,
 Jaime Villate


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Re: setuid

2000-08-04 Thread JFA
 
 Es esto normal ??.
Pues no tengo ni idea, pero espero que si, porque a mi me manda un mensaje
muy parecido ... :)


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Ayuda con tema ICEwm

2000-08-04 Thread Ezequiel



Hola, se que esta pregunta no es muy 
especifica para esta lista pero quiza alguno pueda ayudarme.
Comenze a utilizar icewm con mi sistema 
Debian en X, bajando el window manager y algunos temas del web, pero no logro 
encontrar el tema fvwm, mi preferido cuando utilizaba slink (ya no dispongo del 
CD), parece que han retirado este tema del sitio de temas de ice. Agradeceria 
mucho si alguien puediera decirme donde buscar ese tema en especifico o 
enviarmelo si no es mucho pedir.
Gracias a 
todos.


Gnome Y WMaker

2000-08-04 Thread JFreak
Hola
hace varias semanas pedi ayuda con WMaker-Gnome pero luego me di a la
tarea de montar un
servidor Linux en la empresa para la que trabajo y no pude terminar con
esto.


Joaquin Fenandez Piqueras ha escrito:

 Buenas,
 yo tb tengo Gnome y Wmaker, y lo hago todavia mas facil. Haces que la
 variable WINDOWMANAGER apunte a gnome-session, por ejemplo:
 WINDOWMANAGER=/opt/gnome/bin/gnome-session
 y despues desde la herramienta de configuración del gnome, eliges que
 arranque wmaker. De esta forma da muchos menos problemas, ya que el gnome se
 encarga de gestionar al wmaker y no te pasan historias como tener que cerrar
 los dos escritorios por separado, o que se peleen por poner el fondo de
 pantalla.
 Por defecto el gnome viene arrancando enlightenment, pero como ya he dicho
 en la configuración se puede elegir wmaker (si lo tienes instalado) y
 yasta!!!

Entre las respuestas que recibi a dicho correo, probe varias pero por
alguna razon no funcionó
y ya no insisti, me regalaron la distribucion Mandrake (para que la
probara como una opcion
para el servidor que monte) y la puse en mi casa, no se si alguien la ha
utilizado pero la
instalacion es muy buena, me parece todo bien, pero en particular me
llamo la atencion la
forma del entorno que se puede usar de WindowMaker + Gnome, (que es lo
que queria en Debian)
es muy elegante y fue sencillisimo de hacer, solo tuve que configuar el 
Gnome para que
utilizara el WindowMaker como manejador de ventanas y listo (tal como
explica Joaquin), no tengo conflictos con estar cerrando el Gnome y el
WMaker por aparte.

Pero soy Debianero de corazon y aunque veo que la Mandrake ofrece lo que
necesito y el entorno
es muy amistoso (Demasiado en algunas ocaciones) no me interesa y
quiero poner la Debian solo que quiero que me funcione el Wmaker+Gnome
como esta en la Mandrake, para empezar en el control center de Gnome no
puedo ver
todos mis dispositivos, unicamente veo el mouse y el teclado, (en la
Mandrake veo la tarjeta
de red, tarjeta de video, etc), tienen alguna idea a que se pueda deber
esto ??, no tengo el
Gnome-File-Control (no se si asi se llama, pero es el que se utiliza
para ver los archivos del
disco y todo eso...), en el Gnome-Control-Center debo de poner el
Window-Mannager que quiero
que Gnome utilice pero como dije antes no tengo esta opcion.

Si me pueden ayudar se los agradezco a todos.

Como comentario acerca de la amistosidad comparto con muchos el hecho
de que esa amistosidad solo es cuestion de gustos, la primera
distribucion de linux que utilice fue la Debian, no conocia otra, no
tenia los recursos para comprar una distribucion mas amistosa (como
red hat) asi que compre la Debian (Slink), sinceramente me costo mucho
instalarla, pero al final obtuve los resultados deseados y es cuestion
de dedicacion porque yo cuando la instale lo unico que sabia era que
Linux era un sistema operativo mejor que windows y como estoy harto de
esa mediocridad opte por intentarlo.

Hoy las cosas son muy diferentes, sabiando los conceptos minimos no es
tan dificil instalar la Debian, he probado otras distribuciones y en lo
personal siento que en algunas se esta tratando de windomizar Linux, o
sea hacer que el usuario se sienta como en windows al utilizar Linux,
hasta los iconos son muy perecidos, de una forma muy personal no estoy
de acuerdo con esto, a mi no me gusta, no significa que sea malo, para
mi la Debian es todo lo que necesito y no tiene nada que envidiar a
ninguna de las otras distribuciones.

JFreak.


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 Quimi

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suscribe

2000-08-04 Thread Gaspar Curetti






dica do perl.

2000-08-04 Thread Nivaldo A. P. Vasconcelos
Olah,

gostaria de saber se alguem sugere algum modulo do perl que faca coisa
semelhante ao wget recursivo.

Um abraco,
Nivaldo

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Re: [fox@xs4all.nl: Re: gnapster won't download: fopen: No such file or directory]

2000-08-04 Thread Rev GRC Sperry
It's buggy, you can only share mp3's, I often try to download a few
songs only to get error so I can only assume that their database isn't
kept updated very often at all. I can only compare it to gnutella under
linux, which is also buggy but I like how it's distributed and not
limited to mp3 files. Under windoze, I prefer Scour Exchange because I
can share any type of file, it's more configurable, and the database not
only seems to be right nore often, but it's much faster.

Hope that helps. I'm nothing of an expert with any of these.

* Krzys Majewski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000803 13:40] wrote:
 Out of curiousity, what don't you like about napster? 
 One thing  that strikes me  as potentially lame  is that you  can only
 upload my files  while I'm running the client..but  I guess that's the
 windows  way (howbout  a  napsterd with  sophisticated access  control
 etc.?) Napster struck me as pretty effective but then again my 
 expectations were low.. 
 chris
 
  Not that I think napster does it's job particularly well but I thought
  people should know that it is up. Of course, there's always gnutella for
  file sharing-- of open source software, of course. Heh.
 
 
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Re: X with a S3 Trio64V+ card

2000-08-04 Thread Russ Pitman
I have no problems with the S3 Trio64V+ at 1024x768 -16/24bit
but it may be because I had 4 meg ram and upgraded to 8meg latterly
still using it on a 'passed over' machine.

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 12:29:07PM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote:
 Hi everybody!
 
 Does anybody have a XF86Config file for the S3 Trio64V+ card? I've
 managed to get a 800x600 running, but I'd like to increase to 1024x768.
 Whenever I modify the XF86Config (with XF86Setup) to contain a 1024x768
 ModeLine, the server dies when trying to start it.
 
 Isn't such a resolution possible with this card?
 
 TIA.
 
 Greetings,
 
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make menuconfig error

2000-08-04 Thread Dale Morris
I'm trying to compile my new 2.2.16 kernel and when I run make menuconfig, I 
get the following error:
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE  
-DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c -o lxdialog.o lxdialog.c
In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
luc:/usr/src/linux# 

I know I need a development library here. Can anyone tell me which one it is?
thanks



Re: make menuconfig error

2000-08-04 Thread Robert Waldner
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:19:33 PDT, Dale Morris writes:
I'm trying to compile my new 2.2.16 kernel and when I run make menuconfig, I g
et the following error:
snip
dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
snip
I know I need a development library here. Can anyone tell me which one it is?

libncurses5-dev

hth,
rw



Re: cdrom

2000-08-04 Thread Dave Thayer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 02:23:54PM -0400, Andy The King wrote:
 
 I just recently purchased a copy of Debian GNU/Linux 2.1.  Although my
 friend told me that I can just down loaded for free from the web.  So I
 installed it on my machine and everything runs well except for that my
 cdrom didn't recognized any of the CD-Rewritable copies that  burned.
 However, the operating system able to allows me to read other CD-W
 copies that are not rewritable.  I did all this with mounting the cdrom.
 
 What is this mean?  I have most of the softwares that needed to be run
 in Linux are in those CD-Rewritable.  What can I do?
 

There are 2 compatability issues you have to be aware of when you are
dealing with CD-RW disks. 

First, because of the materials used to make the disk, CD-RWs need a
higher power laser to be able to read them than CD-R or pressed CDs.
Older CD drives don't usually have strong enough lasers to read CD-RWs.
If your CD is slower than about 20x it may be too old. 

The other issue is the filesystem used on CD-RWs. CD-RWs can be formatted
using the same ISO-9660 file system as CD-R and pressed CDs. This format
has a minimum amount of wasted space, but doesn't support randomly adding
and deleting files well. If your CD-RW holds more than about 500 MB of data
then its an ISO disk, and should be readable on a newer model CD drive.

The other filesystem used on CD-RWs is UDF filesystem which supports
packet writing. In other words, you can use a UDF CD-RW like a floppy
disk. DVDs use UDF as well. A UDF CD-RW only holds 500 MB of data (vs.
650 MB for ISO-9660) and needs to be formatted before use. This formatting
can take the better part of an hour on some drives. The 2.2.x kernels
do not support UDF. 

If this is what you have, just take the CD-RW back to the machine you made
it on, copy the files to the hard drive, erase the CD-RW, and re-burn the
CDs using ISO format. Some of the Windows CD burning programs are pretty
insistant about using UDF on CD-RWs, but they can usually be made to burn
ISO CD-RWs, if you stay away from using Drive Letter access and use a 
tool such as Adaptec CD-Creater to burn the files instead of Windows 
explorer.

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Framebuffer

2000-08-04 Thread Jack Morgan
I am trying to change my console resolutions. I log in to the console (not 
X-windows) and run a program, such as lynx or mutt. It opens at 640x480. My 
laptop screen can do 800x600. I tried fbset fb0 but got no such device!? I 
read TFM but... 

Suggestions? Options? Places to look?
Thanks
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Re: make menuconfig error

2000-08-04 Thread Dale Morris
Thanks, I'm reconfiguring now. It's a lot easier with menuconfig

Robert Waldner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:19:33 PDT, Dale Morris writes:
 I'm trying to compile my new 2.2.16 kernel and when I run make menuconfig, I 
 g
 et the following error:
 snip
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 snip
 I know I need a development library here. Can anyone tell me which one it is?
 
 libncurses5-dev
 
 hth,
 rw
 
 
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Re: make menuconfig error

2000-08-04 Thread Debian GNU

--- Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to compile my new 2.2.16 kernel and when
 I run make menuconfig, I get the following error:
 make[1]: Entering directory
 `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
 gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE 
 -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c -o lxdialog.o
 lxdialog.c
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
 luc:/usr/src/linux# 
 
 I know I need a development library here. Can anyone
 tell me which one it is?
 thanks
 
 
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Re: make menuconfig error

2000-08-04 Thread Debian GNU
 I think the curses.h is missing. Try installing the
library ncurses. Be sure to give a make mrproper
before givin make menuconfig.


--- Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to compile my new 2.2.16 kernel and when
 I run make menuconfig, I get the following error:
 make[1]: Entering directory
 `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
 gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE 
 -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c -o lxdialog.o
 lxdialog.c
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
 luc:/usr/src/linux# 
 
 I know I need a development library here. Can anyone
 tell me which one it is?
 thanks
 
 
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Re: make menuconfig error

2000-08-04 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:19:33PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote:
 I'm trying to compile my new 2.2.16 kernel and when I run make menuconfig, I 
 get the following error:
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
 gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE  
 -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c -o lxdialog.o lxdialog.c
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
 luc:/usr/src/linux# 
 
 I know I need a development library here. Can anyone tell me which one it is?
 thanks

If you are using potato, it is libncurses5-dev.

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Re: X with a S3 Trio64V+ card

2000-08-04 Thread Pap Tibor

How much memory do you have on your card? The possible highest resolution
depends on your memory. I'm using S3 Trio64V+ with 2 MB memory, with
1024x768 16bpp. If you have 1MB, you still can use this resolution,
but with 8 bit color depth only.

--Pap Tibor

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Stefan Bellon wrote:

 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Bolan Meek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Stefan Bellon wrote:
 
 [1024x768 on S3 Trio64V+]
 
   Isn't such a resolution possible with this card?
 
  I have S3 Trio64V+ in a EonTronics Renoir card, originally with 1MB,
  lately upgraded to 2MB.  I have 1152x7??x16bpp.  I had to use 1152x7??
  at 8bpp until my upgrade.
 
 I think an upgrade is not possible.
 
  What color depth are you trying to use?
 
 Well, I'd like to use the highest color depth possible at 1024x768.
 800x600 simply is too small to work with.
 
 Do you have your old XF86Config around somewhere? Or do you remember
 what color depth was possible at 1024x768 before the upgrade?
 
 Thank you very much for your response! You're giving me hope back
 again. :-)
 
 Greetings,
 
 Stefan.
 
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compiling the hx hotline client?!

2000-08-04 Thread Samuel Hathaway
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone has successfully compiled the hx hotline client
under potato.

I have libreadline and libreadline-dev 4.1-1 packages installed and all the
files compile. However, the linker says that there are undefined references
in hx_tty.c to several identifiers of the form 'rl_*', which I assume refers
to readline functions.

I also tried installing readline 2.1-19, but this didn't help.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Samuel Hathaway



Cool trick: gmc and Debs

2000-08-04 Thread kmself
Color me clueless, but I just found something way cool.  I guess I
*should* have spent more time with Novell.

Last night's SVLUG presentation featured a couple of guys from Eazel
showing off a number of Nautalis features, including the ability to
browse RPMs as if they were a mounted filesystem.  Pretty slick.
Talking to folks, I understood that this was supported through the GVFS
-- Gnome Virtual Filesystem.  And that GNU Midnight Commander (aka mc
aka gmc) had a similar functionality.  This is a tool which, as I
understand, was adapted from Novell's Midnight Commander file browsing
utility.  It's a file manager on steroids, as a console tool.

My question to the Eazel folks was whether or not Deb browsing was also
supported.

The cool hat trick:  You can browse through the contents of a Deb
package *.deb file) with gmc as if it were a locally mounted fileystem,
without having to unarchive and untar all the constituent components.

This is pretty damned sweet.  Thought I'd share.

If you already knew this, laugh at me.  If you didn't -- well, now you
do.

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Laptops and Linux (was: Re: tecra bootdisk)

2000-08-04 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Aug 03 2000, Pollywog wrote:
 I had to use a Tecra disk on my ThinkPad.  Then I installed a new
 kernel (made with 'make-kpkg').  I am able to use 'mkboot' but I
 don't know if that has anything to do with the fact that I made a
 custom kernel.

Just as a completely unrelated question, are you satisfied
with your Think Pad? Does it work well with Linux? I mean, did
you have to use any binary-only module (with the possible
exception of PCMCIA) or does a stock kernel work fine with
your laptop?

I'm in the market for a new computer and I'm still deciding if
I'll go with a desktop or with a laptop... I'm looking for
something that uses only free-software, without third-party
drivers and that has reasonable performance.

Other opinions/experiences are welcome.


[]s, Roger...

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Can't get online

2000-08-04 Thread Allan Peak
I can't figure out how to get online.  I have a
RoadRunner cable modem with a RealTek RTL 8029 card.

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Can't get online

2000-08-04 Thread Allan Peak
I can't figure out how to get online.  I have a
RoadRunner cable modem with a RealTek RTL 8029 card.



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Re: X with a S3 Trio64V+ card

2000-08-04 Thread Hans
I don't have that box here with me, but I have the same card which runs
1024x768 fine with an IBM G50 monitor. I think you probably want to change
the monitor to High Frequency SVGA, but check if your monitor can take that
(vertical freq at least 70 Hz). -- Hans

At 12:29 PM 8/3/00 +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote:
Hi everybody!

Does anybody have a XF86Config file for the S3 Trio64V+ card? I've
managed to get a 800x600 running, but I'd like to increase to 1024x768.
Whenever I modify the XF86Config (with XF86Setup) to contain a 1024x768
ModeLine, the server dies when trying to start it.

Isn't such a resolution possible with this card?

TIA.

Greetings,

Stefan.

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Re: X with a S3 Trio64V+ card

2000-08-04 Thread Stefan Bellon
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Pap Tibor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How much memory do you have on your card? The possible highest
 resolution depends on your memory. I'm using S3 Trio64V+ with 2 MB
 memory, with 1024x768 16bpp. If you have 1MB, you still can use this
 resolution, but with 8 bit color depth only.

Yes, it's only a 1 MB card. :-/

But I haven't managed yet to start the X server in 1024x768 and 8 bpp.
800x600 and 16 bpp was no problem. Well, I'll have another go then.

Thanks for your help.

Greetings,

Stefan.

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Re: X with a S3 Trio64V+ card

2000-08-04 Thread Stefan Bellon
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Russ Pitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have no problems with the S3 Trio64V+ at 1024x768 -16/24bit
 but it may be because I had 4 meg ram and upgraded to 8meg latterly
 still using it on a 'passed over' machine.

You can upgrade the S3 Trio64V+ to 8 MB video RAM?

Greetings,

Stefan.

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Re: X with a S3 Trio64V+ card

2000-08-04 Thread Stefan Bellon
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

 but check if your monitor can take that (vertical freq at least 70
 Hz).

How would I do this without documentation for the monitor? (The only
thing I know is that the monitor in question is a Compaq Presario 1410
monitor).

TIA.

Greetings,

Stefan.

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Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs

2000-08-04 Thread Russ Pitman
Well-- The oportunity to comment here is too good to pass. I believe that
mc should also be known as LSAK ( Linux Swiss Army Knife). Been an addict
for years and still don't know all its tricks-:))


On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:51:54PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 Color me clueless, but I just found something way cool.  I guess I
 *should* have spent more time with Novell.
 
 Last night's SVLUG presentation featured a couple of guys from Eazel
 showing off a number of Nautalis features, including the ability to
 browse RPMs as if they were a mounted filesystem.  Pretty slick.
 Talking to folks, I understood that this was supported through the GVFS
 -- Gnome Virtual Filesystem.  And that GNU Midnight Commander (aka mc
 aka gmc) had a similar functionality.  This is a tool which, as I
 understand, was adapted from Novell's Midnight Commander file browsing
 utility.  It's a file manager on steroids, as a console tool.
 
 My question to the Eazel folks was whether or not Deb browsing was also
 supported.
 
 The cool hat trick:  You can browse through the contents of a Deb
 package *.deb file) with gmc as if it were a locally mounted fileystem,
 without having to unarchive and untar all the constituent components.
 
 This is pretty damned sweet.  Thought I'd share.
 
 If you already knew this, laugh at me.  If you didn't -- well, now you
 do.
 
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Re: Laptops and Linux (was: Re: tecra bootdisk)

2000-08-04 Thread Christopher Tessone
On 3 August 2000 at 23:05, Rogerio Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I'm in the market for a new computer and I'm still deciding if
   I'll go with a desktop or with a laptop... I'm looking for
   something that uses only free-software, without third-party
   drivers and that has reasonable performance.

Everyone's going to die laughing at the suggestion, but look at
WinBook.  I had been a fairly devoted user of Linux for a while, but
when I was in the market for a computer, I had returned to using
Windows, and the WinBook XL^2 was about what I needed--very good
features for a small price (~$1000) and small weight (~7 lbs. for a
mid-featured notebook).  When I chose to return to the fold and
install Debian again, I was pleasantly surprised that I could spend
five minutes configuring a kernel, adding Ir* and PCMCIA support,
compile, reboot, and keep working.  No OSS nonsense, no strange,
third-party drivers, nothing.  (Note that I am using a 3COM PCMCIA
modem/ethernet combo; if you use an internal modem from WinBook YMMV.)
The name sounds scary, but the price for the features is not.  Their
higher-end notebooks ship with big screens, DVD, big hard drives, and
fast processors and still undercut Dell, etc.  In addition, I have yet
to hear of serious problems with the hardware.  It is not a
low-quality machine.

The single thing about the WinBook I would warn about is that the fan
is on almost constantly when it's on AC power, at least on my XL^2
with a Celeron 400.  Whether this is a Celeron-only precautionary
measure for over-clocked processors or a feature of all WinBook
laptops, I don't know.

Oh, and it has a Synaptics touchpad, which is a little...weird under
Linux.  The click-and-a-half feature is only sort-of supported, and
dragging in general is a tad weird.  At least on my model; again,
YMMV.

Hope that helps.  :-)

Chris


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Re: Cc: to poster (was Re: OT: less v. more...)

2000-08-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi!

 I assume that Bolan is on the list?  And Ben, are you on -user?  Is
there a way to check with this list-agent who is on a list like
majordomo can?  Or is it just disabled?

On 03 Aug 2000, Bolan Meek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ah, good, so, with this assumption, one ought to remove the
 personal To:'s and Cc:'s, unless requested? (Like you did..)

 It's what I usually do (with exception to Ben in this case, I got the
impression from the discussion so far that he isn't on -user).

 Brian May wrote:
  The mail-copies-to header does sound good, but I have mixed feelings
  as to if it really solves the problems.

 It can at least solve the problem for the people that are not aware of
what they are doing and using clients that don't know about
mailing-lists at all and therefore don't have a Reply-To-List function.

  Oh, BTW, Mail-CopiesTo: never is obsolete, use nobody instead. See
  http://www.newsreaders.com/misc/mail-copies-to.html

 Thanks for the hint.  I don't know why I missed that for I read on just
this page about it ;-)

 OK.  So henceforth, my practice will be to remove personal Cc:s
 Thank you.

 So I guess we can just close this thread :)

  I would prefer another header (does the followup-to header do
  this??), that is like reply-to:, except it works for group
  followups, rather then private replies. Even better, if it supported
  mailing lists *and* newsgroups... If the poster hasn't submitted one,
  the mailing list software could add a default one. If there is already
  a header, it shouldn't be replaced.

 This should be no problem - in a MUA that is aware of lists.  I don't
know if there are many besides mutt that could do that?

 But I think we get far to far away from the topic of the list.  Sadly I
don't know where a good point for discussing this would be?  Maybe
news:news.software.readers for Mail-Copies-To: was also discussed there?

  Another-words, I think it should be up to the sender to specify
  exactly where the group reply should go. If the sender doesn't say,
  then the mailing list should be able to specify. This should happen
  without affecting private replies (so reply-to can't be used).

 I double that.  It's really a PITA to use such a mis-configured list
(with Reply-To: list set :-/ ).

 One problem I have, is that posts come to me From: the poster,
 and my MUA doesn't respect the Resent-from: header, so if
 I `Reply`, it goes only to the poster, but when I `Reply-all`, the
 list is Cc:ed.  I haven't noticed a Followup-to: header (but I
 haven't sought them, either), so I don't know what my MUA
 shall do with those.

 Netscape isn't the best MUA to choose from. It lacks many features that
are really useful if you are on several lists, and/or use different
From-Addresses.  I'd sugguest you to give mutt[1] a try.  It might be a
little hard to find your way to it (it's text-based, some don't like
that), but it's really paying off for it.

 Have fun!
Alfie
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Re: Palm packages

2000-08-04 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:01:30PM +0200, Frodo Baggins wrote:
 Hi debians,
Looking into the local package database with dpkg -l *palm* I
 found two packages concerning palm, namel gcc-mk68-palmos anf
 binutils-m68k-palmos. If I understand weel, they allows to install a
 cross-compiler for palmos. Now, doing dselect I'm unable ti find these
 packages... Here is my /etc/apt/source.list

On my system:

$apt-cache search palm
lx-gdb - Dump and load databases from the HP palmtop
pilot-template - Code generator for PalmPilot programs
prc-tools - GCC, GDB, binutils, etc. for PalmPilot and Palm III
pilrc - PalmPilot/PalmIII resource compiler and editor
libpisock3 - Libraries for communicating with a Pilot PDA.
pose - PalmOS Emulator
pyrite - Palm Computing(R) platform communication kit for Python
libpisock-dev - static libraries for communicating with a Pilot PDA.
pilot-manager - PalmPilot PIM, UI, and Conduit Manager
lxtools - Allows file management on HP100/200LX palmtops.
palm-doctoolkit - E-text tools for PalmPilot users
imgvtopgm - PalmPilot/III Image Conversion utility

My /etc/apt/sources.list

deb ftp://ftp.linux.org.za/mirrors/ftp.us.debian.org potato main contrib 
non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.linux.org.za/mirrors/ftp.us.debian.org potato main contrib 
non-free

Regards.
Johann
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Partition problems

2000-08-04 Thread Sven Burgener
Hi all

When running fdisk -l I get the following:

box:~ # fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 787 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   * 111 20632+  83  Linux
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
 phys=(40, 15, 63) logical=(10, 15, 63)
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(40, 15, 63) should be (40, 63, 63)
/dev/hda21176131544   82  Linux swap
Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
 phys=(41, 0, 1) logical=(10, 16, 1)
Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
 phys=(301, 15, 63) logical=(75, 31, 63)
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(301, 15, 63) should be (301, 63, 63)
/dev/hda376   787   1434384   83  Linux
Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
 phys=(302, 0, 1) logical=(75, 32, 1)
Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings:
 phys=(1023, 15, 63) logical=(786, 63, 63)
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(1023, 15, 63) should be (1023, 63, 63)

Disk /dev/hdb: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 782 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1 1   381   1536160+  83  Linux
/dev/hdb2   382   762   1536192   83  Linux
/dev/hdb3   763   782 80640   83  Linux

I have 2 HDs, hda and hdb; both have 3 partitions. hda is the system
disk containing a /boot, a / and a swap partition.

What can I do about the Partition X has different physical ... lines
from fdisk -l's output? Anyone experienced this before? Harmful?

Things seem fine; havent'd had problems so far...

I'd like to be CC'ed.

TIA
Sven



Re: Partition problems

2000-08-04 Thread kmself
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 11:16:47AM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote:
 Hi all
 
 When running fdisk -l I get the following:
 
 box:~ # fdisk -l
 
 Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 787 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
 
Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
 /dev/hda1   * 111 20632+  83  Linux
 Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
  phys=(40, 15, 63) logical=(10, 15, 63)
 Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
  phys=(40, 15, 63) should be (40, 63, 63)
 /dev/hda21176131544   82  Linux swap
 Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
  phys=(41, 0, 1) logical=(10, 16, 1)
 Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
  phys=(301, 15, 63) logical=(75, 31, 63)
 Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
  phys=(301, 15, 63) should be (301, 63, 63)
 /dev/hda376   787   1434384   83  Linux
 Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
  phys=(302, 0, 1) logical=(75, 32, 1)
 Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings:
  phys=(1023, 15, 63) logical=(786, 63, 63)
 Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary:
  phys=(1023, 15, 63) should be (1023, 63, 63)
 
 Disk /dev/hdb: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 782 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes
 
Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
 /dev/hdb1 1   381   1536160+  83  Linux
 /dev/hdb2   382   762   1536192   83  Linux
 /dev/hdb3   763   782 80640   83  Linux
 
 I have 2 HDs, hda and hdb; both have 3 partitions. hda is the system
 disk containing a /boot, a / and a swap partition.
 
 What can I do about the Partition X has different physical ... lines
 from fdisk -l's output? Anyone experienced this before? Harmful?
 
 Things seem fine; havent'd had problems so far...
 
 I'd like to be CC'ed.

If I'm doing my math right, your /dev/hda is a 1.5 GB disk.  Which seems
a bit small for the issue I suspect.  But I suck at math.  Something in
th 6-12 GB range would more likely have these issues.

Usually I get this sort of message if I've got my disk geometry
configured wrong.  Read the LILO docs on specifying disk geometry in
/etc/lilo.conf or at the boot prompt.  It's cyl/sec/head or cyl/head/sec
or something like that.  See if your fdisk isn't happier after this.

Kernel version may make a difference as well, but I believe this refers
to larger disks than you seem to be dealing with.


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Re: Framebuffer

2000-08-04 Thread Moritz Schulte
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:32:51PM +0900, Jack Morgan wrote:

 I am trying to change my console resolutions. I log in to the
 console (not X-windows) and run a program, such as lynx or mutt. It
 opens at 640x480. My laptop screen can do 800x600. I tried fbset fb0
 but got no such device!? I read TFM but...

does /dev/fb0 exist? if it doesn't, create it.
BTW: only few framebuffer drivers support on-the-fly configuring with
'fbset'. AFAIK, for example 3dfx cards (?)...

build your kernel with the driver (built into the kernel). if you
don't find a driver for your card, use VESA Framebuffer and configure
it via kernel parameters..

   moritz
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Re: gzipped readmes in /usr/doc/*

2000-08-04 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 03:07:19PM +1000, Russ Pitman wrote:
 
 Try using mc midnight commander . Just select the file and hit 'F3'.
 
 On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:25:25PM -0700, S. Champ wrote:
  hi.
  
  i'm seeing a lot of README.*.gz in /usr/doc/*
  
  the question:
  
  what is the command to read these README documents, without having to first 
  use
  a command to un-gzip the same?

I believe that either dwww or dhelp allows access to these via a web browser.
(It's been a while since I tried it.)

The other suggestions for various file viewers are good too. I think I'd have
to say that midnight commander is my choice. It is a very useful utility.



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Re: Partition problems

2000-08-04 Thread Sven Burgener
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

[snipped my stuff]

 If I'm doing my math right, your /dev/hda is a 1.5 GB disk.  Which seems
 a bit small for the issue I suspect.  But I suck at math.  Something in
 th 6-12 GB range would more likely have these issues.

Yes, it is a 1.5 GB disk. The other (hdb) is ~ 3 GB in size.

 Usually I get this sort of message if I've got my disk geometry
 configured wrong.  Read the LILO docs on specifying disk geometry in
 /etc/lilo.conf or at the boot prompt.  It's cyl/sec/head or cyl/head/sec
 or something like that.  See if your fdisk isn't happier after this.

I'll try.

 Kernel version may make a difference as well, but I believe this refers
 to larger disks than you seem to be dealing with.

Seems to hit me, though...

Cheers
Sven



Re: gzipped readmes in /usr/doc/*

2000-08-04 Thread Corey Popelier
You can use zmore filename iirc.

Cheers,
 Corey J. Popelier
 http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas


On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Stuart Krivis wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 03:07:19PM +1000, Russ Pitman wrote:
  
  Try using mc midnight commander . Just select the file and hit 'F3'.
  
  On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:25:25PM -0700, S. Champ wrote:
   hi.
   
   i'm seeing a lot of README.*.gz in /usr/doc/*
   
   the question:
   
   what is the command to read these README documents, without having to 
   first use
   a command to un-gzip the same?
 
 I believe that either dwww or dhelp allows access to these via a web browser.
 (It's been a while since I tried it.)
 
 The other suggestions for various file viewers are good too. I think I'd have
 to say that midnight commander is my choice. It is a very useful utility.
 
 
 
 -- 
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2000-08-04 Thread Andreas Hammargren



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Re: Man -K

2000-08-04 Thread Piotr Krukowiecki
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, John Hasler wrote:

 Piotr Krukowiecki writes:
  But they don't. And you can't describe man which has 100 pages or more in
  one line.
 
 Of course you.  More importantly, you can put the keywords that people are
 most likely to search for in that one line.  The man foramt really ought to
  ^^^

But no all words. And maybe I remeber one fancy word from that man, what
then ? You include all words from manpage in description? ;)

 include a 'keywords' line, though.


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dual boot with lilo Linux on slave drive

2000-08-04 Thread Wilson Yau
Can lilo installed on MBR of the 2nd HD handle dual boot at boot time? 
If yes, how?



Re: Can't get online

2000-08-04 Thread Andrei Ivanov
What seems to be the problem?
Read Ethernet-HOWTO for specific card installations. Basically, main thing
is to get ethernet card working correctly. dhcpcd will take it from there.
Any error messages in logs, what are the symptoms?
Andrei



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[Q] Can Samba mount 'shared' (not 'served') Win drives ?

2000-08-04 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel

This might be a trivial questions with a quick No! as the answer ...

At work, in a predominantly NT environment, I use Samba to mount drives of
the NT servers on the Lan. However, I'd also love to access files on my
(vanilla NT 4.0) desktop at work which is set to let other 'share' its
files.  I tried mounting these from a Linux box but failed.  Is there a way
to get to these files so that I could access the files from Linux?

CC's welcome as I am not currently subscribed here...

Thanks, Dirk

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Re: gzipped readmes in /usr/doc/*

2000-08-04 Thread Christopher Mosley


On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Stuart Krivis wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 03:07:19PM +1000, Russ Pitman wrote:
  
  Try using mc midnight commander . Just select the file and hit 'F3'.
 


For navigating directories, viewing gzips as well as jpgs etc.
Try lynx . or lynx /usr/doc .  In addition to lynx being a web browser,
as a  viewer for unix - it is what Buerg's list was for dos   
  



Volunteers needed for MashPotato tech support crew in #Debian on irc.debian.org around August 15.

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Lau

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello, this is Andrew Netsnipe Lau from #debian at irc.debian.org calling 
out for volunteers who know a bit of Debian GNU/Linux and can offer a part 
of time to help others. As many of you are well aware, the third test cycle 
of Debian is about to end soon, schedules on August 15 (no guarantees or 
leaks here), and quite possibly, if we're lucky will officially become stable.

Debian itself, unfortunately, despite progress in this area over the last 
year or two, has never been an easy to install or configurable distribution 
for the beginner. Remember the first time as a Linux newbie when you 
installed Debian and were intimidated by dselect (thank goodness tasksel 
has been introduced). How long did it take you to get X or sound running on 
your own, or even when you switched distributions?

We here at #debian, the official IRC chatroom of Debian have decided that 
when Potato 2.2 does officially become stable, that we will provide the 
most comprehensive Debian GNU/Linux support service that we can to users 
both new and old. However, being the official IRC room, #debian will be 
overwhelmed with literally hundreds of users seeking installation and 
configuration help. The task would be quite daunting for regulars there as 
we already handle several dozen help requests a day.

Hence the Potato release now has a dedicated IRC tech support crew 
nicknamed the Mobile Array of Support Helpers for Potato (MashPotato) which 
serve around the clock for users around the world. To make things easier, 
we will also divert users to different channels from #debian to for example 
#debian-install and #debian-x, #debian-sound, #debian-gnome. However, we 
will be lacking in numbers of people to answer the multitudes of help.

To sign up for the roster list for MashPotato, just come into #debian and 
type in apt roster for further details, and return over the next few days 
for more details. You don't need to be using Potato, but any Debian-based 
help provided will be greatly appreciated.

So please, for the sake of new users, please volunteer for MashPotato and 
help promote the Debian GNU/Linux community to new users as well. Debian is 
much more than yet another Linux distribution. It has a fine tradition of 
being a community  which distinguishes it as one of the best Linux 
distributions out there. Let's keep it that way.

Yours sincerely,
Andrew Netsnipe Lau
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 2194697

PS: MashPotato is not an official organization or division of the Debian 
GNU/Linux project, however we do have members and links with those who hang 
around at #debian. MashPotato is a volunteer group run by people at #Debian 
in the spirit of the project.
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Volunteers needed for MashPotato tech support crew in #Debian on irc.debian.org around August 15.

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Lau

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- 
Hash: SHA1
Hello, this is Andrew Netsnipe Lau from #debian at
irc.debian.org calling 
out for volunteers who know a bit of Debian GNU/Linux and can offer a
part 
of time to help others. As many of you are well aware, the third test
cycle 
of Debian is about to end soon, schedules on August 15 (no guarantees or

leaks here), and quite possibly, if we're lucky will officially become
stable.
Debian itself, unfortunately, despite progress in this area over the last

year or two, has never been an easy to install or configurable
distribution 
for the beginner. Remember the first time as a Linux newbie when you

installed Debian and were intimidated by dselect (thank goodness tasksel

has been introduced). How long did it take you to get X or sound running
on 
your own, or even when you switched distributions?
We here at #debian, the official IRC chatroom of Debian have decided that

when Potato 2.2 does officially become stable, that we will provide the

most comprehensive Debian GNU/Linux support service that we can to users

both new and old. However, being the official IRC room, #debian will be

overwhelmed with literally hundreds of users seeking installation and

configuration help. The task would be quite daunting for regulars there
as 
we already handle several dozen help requests a day.
Hence the Potato release now has a dedicated IRC tech support crew 
nicknamed the Mobile Array of Support Helpers for Potato (MashPotato)
which 
serve around the clock for users around the world. To make things easier,

we will also divert users to different channels from #debian to for
example 
#debian-install and #debian-x, #debian-sound, #debian-gnome. However, we

will be lacking in numbers of people to answer the multitudes of
help.
To sign up for the roster list for MashPotato, just come into #debian and

type in apt roster for further details, and return over the
next few days 
for more details. You don't need to be using Potato, but any Debian-based

help provided will be greatly appreciated.
So please, for the sake of new users, please volunteer for MashPotato and

help promote the Debian GNU/Linux community to new users as well. Debian
is 
much more than yet another Linux distribution. It has a fine tradition of

being a community which distinguishes it as one of the best Linux 
distributions out there. Let's keep it that way.
Yours sincerely, 
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apt-get vs. dselect?

2000-08-04 Thread Adam Scriven

Hey all.

I'm going through the process of upgrading the kernel on my router box, and 
implementing some better firewall rules (Thanks to the TrinityOS doc.  Very 
helpful).  Traditionally I've used dselect to manage the packages that I 
have installed, but it gets rather cumbersome having to scroll through a 
list of crud, looking for specific updates.


Is that what apt-get does for me automatically?  I noticed that apt-get has 
the dselect-upgrade option, and in convesation with a list member, he 
recommended apt-get to update the kernel packages.


So which is the preferred way, and why?

Thanks!
Adam
Toronto, Ontario, Canada



kernel config

2000-08-04 Thread Dale Morris
 I have reinstalled potato, and compiled the 2.2.16 kernel. In my last 
installation I had sound and printing when I rebooted after compiling, this 
time I dont. I am sure there is a switch I'm not setting properly. Before, I 
thought the trick was to set the switches to M for sound, and set the kernel to 
auto configure. I'm trying to install my yamaha oplsax sound card. Then after 
I've done bzlilo make modules, make_install. Didn't work, I have no printing 
and no sound, I'm thinking of recompiling and leaving out the make_install. Oh, 
and the other difference, before I had downloaded and unsuccessfully installed 
the alsa sound moduleswhen I recompiled. any suggestions
thanks



Re: Cc: to poster (was Re: OT: less v. more...)

2000-08-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I assume that Bolan is on the list?  And Ben, are you on
  -user?  

See, the thing is, I didn't start this thread of discussion and
I'm not at all interested in a rehash of this topic.  And what's
more, I already asked on debian-user to be dropped from CC:'s.
So, if you'd just not email me any more about it, I'd greatly
appreciate it.

Thanks,

Ben.



Re: [Q] Can Samba mount 'shared' (not 'served') Win drives ?

2000-08-04 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 
 This might be a trivial questions with a quick No! as the answer ...
 
 At work, in a predominantly NT environment, I use Samba to mount drives of
 the NT servers on the Lan. However, I'd also love to access files on my
 (vanilla NT 4.0) desktop at work which is set to let other 'share' its
 files.  I tried mounting these from a Linux box but failed.  Is there a way
 to get to these files so that I could access the files from Linux?

mount -t smbfs //server/share /mountpoint -o
username=username,password=password,uid=uid to have write access

That should all be one line, of course.

-- 
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There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the
universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstien



Re: [Q] Can Samba mount 'shared' (not 'served') Win drives ?

2000-08-04 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel

On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 08:44:01AM -0500, Phil Brutsche wrote:
 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
  At work, in a predominantly NT environment, I use Samba to mount drives of
  the NT servers on the Lan. However, I'd also love to access files on my
  (vanilla NT 4.0) desktop at work which is set to let other 'share' its
  files.  I tried mounting these from a Linux box but failed.  Is there a way
  to get to these files so that I could access the files from Linux?
 
 mount -t smbfs //server/share /mountpoint -o
 username=username,password=password,uid=uid to have write access
 
 That should all be one line, of course.

Yes, as I wrote, that works fine for NT servers providing a share. I use
that with the corresponding entry in /etc/fstab so that I can simply say
mount /mountpoint 
and the rest happens automatically.

I now would like to access the C:\ I declared as 'shared' on my desktop.  I
can't figure out what that would be. Whatever I try yields 'session request
to DESKTOP failed'.

Any idea?

-- 
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precmnd in bash?

2000-08-04 Thread Brian Stults
Is there a function in bash that is similar to tcsh's precmnd? 
Something that will allow you to run a command before each prompt is
printed?  Thanks.

-- 

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Doctoral Candidate
Department of Sociology
University at Albany - SUNY
Phone: (518) 442-4652  Fax: (518) 442-4936
Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452



Re: precmnd in bash?

2000-08-04 Thread Brian Stults
Brian Stults wrote:
 
 Is there a function in bash that is similar to tcsh's precmnd?
 Something that will allow you to run a command before each prompt is
 printed?  Thanks.
 

I'll answer my own question in case it's of interest to anyone (and from
now on I'll always search for 5 additional minutes before posting to the
group).  There is a variable called PROMPT_COMMAND that will do it. 
Also, it's precmd in tcsh, not precmnd.  I hope I can handle my own
constructive criticism.  If not, I'll send myself a private rebuttle,
and save the rest of the group from such unpleasantries.
-- 

Brian J. Stults
Doctoral Candidate
Department of Sociology
University at Albany - SUNY
Phone: (518) 442-4652  Fax: (518) 442-4936
Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452



xfstt and font not available

2000-08-04 Thread Matthew Davis
Hi all,

I have just wiped my system and reinstalled Debian (thanks completely to
Windows 2000 and my dual booting).  I was attempting to setup my
truetype fonts for use in X, and I seem to be doing something wrong.
Here's what I've done and what it happening:

Copied /WINNT/Fonts/* /user/share/fonts/truetype to obtain the font
library.

apt-get install xfstt

added the quoted line to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
xset fp+ unix/:7101

restarted xfstt daemon with . /etc/init.d/xfstt restart

And here's what happens:

I am running Helix-gnome, so I go into gnomecc to change my default
fonts.  When I hit browse to select a font, and highlight any of the
new ttf fonts (they do appear in the font list), I am told the font is
not available and the default 'fixed' font is used in it's place.

The same phenomenon occurs in both Mozilla M16-1 and in Netscape, and
seemingly any GTK program (i.e. Gnotepad+)

Have I left something out?  I don't know what is wrong.  It obvisouly
sees the path.  I have also tried running X as root, and that doesn't
work either; root gets the same errors as user.

Thanks in adavance for any help.

Matt



emacs and screen

2000-08-04 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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screen FAQ and man page, but it didn't really address it.  Does anybody
have a .screenrc which remaps screen commands to commands that don't
conflict with emacs?  Remapping emacs keys would be bad as at this point
they're pretty much hardcoded into my brain.

Thanks...
noah


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Re: precmnd in bash?

2000-08-04 Thread Christopher Mosley


On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Brian Stults wrote:

 Brian Stults wrote:
  
  Is there a function in bash that is similar to tcsh's precmnd?
  Something that will allow you to run a command before each prompt is
  printed?  Thanks.
  
 
 I'll answer my own question in case it's of interest to anyone (and from
 now on I'll always search for 5 additional minutes before posting to the
 group).  There is a variable called PROMPT_COMMAND that will do it. 
 Also, it's precmd in tcsh, not precmnd.  I hope I can handle my own
 constructive criticism.  If not, I'll send myself a private rebuttle,
 and save the rest of the group from such unpleasantries.
 -- 

It is not an unpleasentry at all - please feel free to post yourself.
I for one would be very interested in reading your inner dialogues.
Also, I can't see how a soliloquy now and then violates the policy of this
list.
  Thanks


 
 Brian J. Stults
 Doctoral Candidate
 Department of Sociology
 University at Albany - SUNY
 Phone: (518) 442-4652  Fax: (518) 442-4936
 Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452
 



 
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Re: t-dsl

2000-08-04 Thread Stefan Nobis
Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well, first of all, you want to assign the user an address via DHCP,
 or else it's an administrative nightmare.

You can use Radius, LDAP-based solutions and surley much more. With
PPPoE there are even more possibilities to hack IP-addresses then
without PPP. I still don't see your point. And last but not least: Why
not using static IPs instead of dynamic IPs? Use static IPs and
everything is very simple to set up and very simple to secure. That's
why i say the dynamic IP combined with PPPoE is very braindead.

-- 
Until the next mail...,
Stefan.



Re: [Q] Can Samba mount 'shared' (not 'served') Win drives ?

2000-08-04 Thread Kent West
Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
 
 On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 08:44:01AM -0500, Phil Brutsche wrote:
  A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
   At work, in a predominantly NT environment, I use Samba to mount drives of
   the NT servers on the Lan. However, I'd also love to access files on my
   (vanilla NT 4.0) desktop at work which is set to let other 'share' its
   files.  I tried mounting these from a Linux box but failed.  Is there a 
   way
   to get to these files so that I could access the files from Linux?
 
  mount -t smbfs //server/share /mountpoint -o
  username=username,password=password,uid=uid to have write access
 
  That should all be one line, of course.
 
 Yes, as I wrote, that works fine for NT servers providing a share. I use
 that with the corresponding entry in /etc/fstab so that I can simply say
 mount /mountpoint
 and the rest happens automatically.
 
 I now would like to access the C:\ I declared as 'shared' on my desktop.  I
 can't figure out what that would be. Whatever I try yields 'session request
 to DESKTOP failed'.
 
 Any idea?

You said you would like to access the C:\ I declared as 'shared'
on my desktop. By desktop, do you mean your workstation
computer, or do you mean your Windows Desktop (shell program)? If
the latter, you can't mean C:\, yet the error message that you
mention indicates the latter.

So, what directory have you shared, C:\ or
C:\WINNT\PROFILES\YOURUSERNAME\DESKTOP, and with what
permissions?

-- 
Kent West
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Cc: to poster (was Re: OT: less v. more...)

2000-08-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On 04 Aug 2000, Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 See, the thing is, I didn't start this thread of discussion and
 I'm not at all interested in a rehash of this topic.  And what's
 more, I already asked on debian-user to be dropped from CC:'s.

 ROTFL 8-))  Here you can see quite clearly that it's not a good idea to
Cc: one when replying. For my person I stated quite soon (after the
first mail I got that was Cc:ed to -user) that I don't read that special
list.

 So, if you'd just not email me any more about it, I'd greatly
 appreciate it.

 It would be a good idea to start with the things you request yourself.
I don't speak of my person, but that you Cc:ed Bolan who also wrote
quite often that he _is_ on -user and don't need to be Cc:ed.

 I think I will skip the comfort of noticing it on the list and send a
seperate mail to everyone that Cc:es me. This will destroy the
additional feature that other might read it and react appropriately but
on the other hand will stop such mega threads.

 Have fun!
Alfie
-- 
Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the
usual way.  This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody
thinks of complaining.
-- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in Doctor Dobb's Journal



Re: gnapster won't download: fopen: No such file or directory

2000-08-04 Thread John Bagdanoff
I had trouble downloading with gnapster too, so I switched to
knapster, which I found more reliable.

John


***
K, it seems to download now, though I still get the fopen() errors.
I like the gnapster interface but things like this, I hate to say,
make Windows look good at the expense of linux.. -chris 
  

-- 

Using Linux




Re: xfstt and font not available

2000-08-04 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:18:47PM -0500, Matthew Davis wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have just wiped my system and reinstalled Debian (thanks completely to
 Windows 2000 and my dual booting).  I was attempting to setup my
 truetype fonts for use in X, and I seem to be doing something wrong.
 Here's what I've done and what it happening:
 
 Copied /WINNT/Fonts/* /user/share/fonts/truetype to obtain the font
 library.
 
 apt-get install xfstt
 
 added the quoted line to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
 xset fp+ unix/:7101

I don't think that is the preffered way to set a FontPath globally.  Try
putting the line:

FontPath  unix/:7101

in /etc/X11/XF86Config  in the Files section.  Then stop X, restart
xfstt, and restart X to see if it works.  Everything else you did looks
correct.

-- 
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I think a blowpipe is a marijuana cigarrette.  
It'll get you deleted!



Re: [Q] Can Samba mount 'shared' (not 'served') Win drives ?

2000-08-04 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:58:43AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
 Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
  Yes, as I wrote, that works fine for NT servers providing a share. I use
  that with the corresponding entry in /etc/fstab so that I can simply say
  mount /mountpoint
  and the rest happens automatically.
  
  I now would like to access the C:\ I declared as 'shared' on my desktop.  I
  can't figure out what that would be. Whatever I try yields 'session request
  to DESKTOP failed'.
  
  Any idea?
 
 You said you would like to access the C:\ I declared as 'shared'
 on my desktop. By desktop, do you mean your workstation

Yes.

 computer, or do you mean your Windows Desktop (shell program)? If

No, I mean C:\ as the main partition on the 'desktop' computer.

 the latter, you can't mean C:\, yet the error message that you
 mention indicates the latter.
 
 So, what directory have you shared, C:\ or
 C:\WINNT\PROFILES\YOURUSERNAME\DESKTOP, and with what
 permissions?

Permissions are read-access for everyone.  Can I read those from Linux via
Samba?

Thanks, Dirk

-- 
According to the latest figures, 43% of all statistics are totally worthless.



Buggered up my router somehow.

2000-08-04 Thread Adam Scriven - Lore
Ok, by some great and wonderful streak of stupidity, I seem to have somehow
completely fscked up my router.

It's hooked up to an ADSL modem, running PPPoE (Roaring Penguin), and that part
looks like it's working great.
I've got 2 other network cards, both 3Com 905B.  I have the 3c59x module
loading with modprobe, and I've checked ifconfig, and both cards look to be
setup correctly.
eth0 is 192.168.0.1, and eth1 is 192.168.1.1
(Incedentally, eth2 is an NE2k-pci card, for the PPPoE client).

I can see the world just fine from the router (I'm telnetting to an ISP
where my maail is hosted to send out this message, and I'm on the router now),
but I can't ping anything on my 192.168.0.0 network (192.168.1.0 isn't used
yet).
The route command returns:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref   Use Iface
ADSL-NAME   *   255.255.255.255 UH0  0 0   ppp0
192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0   eth1
192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0   eth0
default ADSL-NAME   0.0.0.0 UG0  0 0   ppp0

(I had to tyype this in by hand, so any formatting problems are mine.)

This all looks OK to me, but pinging just gives 100% packet loss, and traceroute
to 192.168.0.2 from the router gives:
traceroute: sendto: Operation not permitted
 1 traceroute: wrote 192.168.0.2 38 chars, ret=-1

So, the question is, how have I managed to bugger this up, since it was working
fine this morning.  I recompiled a new 2.2.17 kernel, but AFAIK I picked all
the options that I needed.  My old (working) kernel was 2.2.14.  Did I forget
some vital piece of information?

Thanks very much for any help.
Adam

OH, I also meant to ask.  I used to use linuxconf on my RH systems.  Is there an
equiv. for Debian?  Something better, perhaps?



Re: uninstalling staroffice

2000-08-04 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: uninstalling staroffice
Date: Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 03:09:04PM -0700

In reply to:jojo zero

Quoting jojo zero([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 How can I uninstall staroffice? it's taking too much space.
 

apt-get remove staroffice comes to mind
or
dpkg (purge | deinstall) staroffice

But it's best if 'you' read the manual pages and decide for yourself.
After all, you 'are' using Linux, which comes with the manuals at no
extra charge.

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

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Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs

2000-08-04 Thread Mike Werner
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 Color me clueless, but I just found something way cool.  I guess I
 *should* have spent more time with Novell.
snip
 The cool hat trick:  You can browse through the contents of a Deb
 package *.deb file) with gmc as if it were a locally mounted fileystem,
 without having to unarchive and untar all the constituent components.

You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped
tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar,
and zip programs are all installed.  Select the archive in question, and you
can either:
Hit F3 to view a listing of the files contained in the archive
or
Hit Enter to browse the archive as if it were a directory

Altogether a most usefull little program.
-- 
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  | everything is of great understanding,
'91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the
Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom.



Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs

2000-08-04 Thread Greg Strockbine.
 You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped
 tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar,

well, gee, its starting to sound like emacs  :-)

greg s.



Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs

2000-08-04 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:33PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote:
 
 You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped
 tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar,
 and zip programs are all installed.

Interestingly, though, it can't browse cpio archives.
-- 
Carl Fink   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
http://dm.net



Re: [Q] Can Samba mount 'shared' (not 'served') Win drives ?

2000-08-04 Thread Kent West
Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
 
 On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:58:43AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
  Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
   Yes, as I wrote, that works fine for NT servers providing a share. I use
   that with the corresponding entry in /etc/fstab so that I can simply say
   mount /mountpoint
   and the rest happens automatically.
  
   I now would like to access the C:\ I declared as 'shared' on my desktop.  
   I
   can't figure out what that would be. Whatever I try yields 'session 
   request
   to DESKTOP failed'.
  
   Any idea?
 
  You said you would like to access the C:\ I declared as 'shared'
  on my desktop. By desktop, do you mean your workstation
 
 Yes.
 
  computer, or do you mean your Windows Desktop (shell program)? If
 
 No, I mean C:\ as the main partition on the 'desktop' computer.
 
  the latter, you can't mean C:\, yet the error message that you
  mention indicates the latter.
 
  So, what directory have you shared, C:\ or
  C:\WINNT\PROFILES\YOURUSERNAME\DESKTOP, and with what
  permissions?
 
 Permissions are read-access for everyone.  Can I read those from Linux via
 Samba?
 
 Thanks, Dirk
 

Yes, you can. I'm not sure what the problem is, but I just did it
on my boxen. I'll think about it and get back with you later.


Kent
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs

2000-08-04 Thread Peter S Galbraith

kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 The cool hat trick:  You can browse through the contents of a Deb
 package *.deb file) with gmc as if it were a locally mounted fileystem,
 without having to unarchive and untar all the constituent components.

See also the debview package:

Description: Emacs mode for viewing Debian packages
 After installing, you can use C-D in dired mode to view the .deb file
 on the current line.  Allows both the structure and contents of a .deb
 archive to be examined.

--

Also, /usr/bin/lesspipe (which can be used to enhance `less') has
support for deb packages, listing package description and then
content, e.g.

$ less xless_1.7-11.deb
 new debian package, version 2.0.
 size 17326 bytes: control archive= 1168 bytes.
 439 bytes,12 lines  control  
 593 bytes, 9 lines  md5sums  
 644 bytes,19 lines   *  postinst #!/bin/sh
 299 bytes, 9 lines   *  postrm   #!/bin/sh
 356 bytes,12 lines   *  prerm#!/bin/sh
 Package: xless
 Version: 1.7-11
 Section: text
 Priority: extra
 Architecture: i386
 Depends: xaw-wrappers, libc6 (= 2.1), xlib6g (= 3.3.5-1)
 Installed-Size: 56
 Maintainer: Randolph Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Description: A file browsing tool for the X Window System
  xless allows you to view information in an X window. It allows
  filename(s) arguments, or input via STDIN. It can print the
  current buffer and do regular expression searches.

*** Contents:
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:15 ./
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:13 usr/
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:14 usr/bin/
-rwxr-xr-x root/root 24432 1999-10-16 13:32:14 usr/bin/xless.real
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:12 usr/X11R6/
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:12 usr/X11R6/lib/
[cut]


Peter



Trouble with initial istall

2000-08-04 Thread Ed Burke
  Debian helpers,
  I got partially through an install when I ran in to
trouble.  Is there ANY body out
 there that can help?I'm afraid to mention scsi but that seems to be
where the trouble
 may be.  I don't really know.  If I upset someone on your staff I am
truely sorry - It was truely unintentional.  This is my 4th attempt to
reach you.  Waiting anxiously,  Ed



Re: Buggered up my router somehow.

2000-08-04 Thread Kevin

I see you have both 192.* nets using the same broadcast...
255.255.255.0
Can you do that ? 

Adam Scriven - Lore wrote:
 
 Ok, by some great and wonderful streak of stupidity, I seem to have somehow
 completely fscked up my router.
 
 It's hooked up to an ADSL modem, running PPPoE (Roaring Penguin), and that 
 part
 looks like it's working great.
 I've got 2 other network cards, both 3Com 905B.  I have the 3c59x module
 loading with modprobe, and I've checked ifconfig, and both cards look to be
 setup correctly.
 eth0 is 192.168.0.1, and eth1 is 192.168.1.1
 (Incedentally, eth2 is an NE2k-pci card, for the PPPoE client).
 
 I can see the world just fine from the router (I'm telnetting to an ISP
 where my maail is hosted to send out this message, and I'm on the router now),
 but I can't ping anything on my 192.168.0.0 network (192.168.1.0 isn't used
 yet).
 The route command returns:
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref   Use Iface
 ADSL-NAME   *   255.255.255.255 UH0  0 0   ppp0
 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0   eth1
 192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0   eth0
 default ADSL-NAME   0.0.0.0 UG0  0 0   ppp0
 
 (I had to tyype this in by hand, so any formatting problems are mine.)
 
 This all looks OK to me, but pinging just gives 100% packet loss, and 
 traceroute
 to 192.168.0.2 from the router gives:
 traceroute: sendto: Operation not permitted
  1 traceroute: wrote 192.168.0.2 38 chars, ret=-1
 
 So, the question is, how have I managed to bugger this up, since it was 
 working
 fine this morning.  I recompiled a new 2.2.17 kernel, but AFAIK I picked all
 the options that I needed.  My old (working) kernel was 2.2.14.  Did I forget
 some vital piece of information?
 
 Thanks very much for any help.
 Adam
 
 OH, I also meant to ask.  I used to use linuxconf on my RH systems.  Is there 
 an
 equiv. for Debian?  Something better, perhaps?
 
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Re: Buggered up my router somehow.

2000-08-04 Thread Kevin


I see you have both 192.* nets using the same broadcast...
255.255.255.0
Can you do that.. anyone ?

Adam Scriven - Lore wrote:
 
 Ok, by some great and wonderful streak of stupidity, I seem to have somehow
 completely fscked up my router.
 
 It's hooked up to an ADSL modem, running PPPoE (Roaring Penguin), and that 
 part
 looks like it's working great.
 I've got 2 other network cards, both 3Com 905B.  I have the 3c59x module
 loading with modprobe, and I've checked ifconfig, and both cards look to be
 setup correctly.
 eth0 is 192.168.0.1, and eth1 is 192.168.1.1
 (Incedentally, eth2 is an NE2k-pci card, for the PPPoE client).
 
 I can see the world just fine from the router (I'm telnetting to an ISP
 where my maail is hosted to send out this message, and I'm on the router now),
 but I can't ping anything on my 192.168.0.0 network (192.168.1.0 isn't used
 yet).
 The route command returns:
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref   Use Iface
 ADSL-NAME   *   255.255.255.255 UH0  0 0   ppp0
 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0   eth1
 192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0   eth0
 default ADSL-NAME   0.0.0.0 UG0  0 0   ppp0
 
 (I had to tyype this in by hand, so any formatting problems are mine.)
 
 This all looks OK to me, but pinging just gives 100% packet loss, and 
 traceroute
 to 192.168.0.2 from the router gives:
 traceroute: sendto: Operation not permitted
  1 traceroute: wrote 192.168.0.2 38 chars, ret=-1
 
 So, the question is, how have I managed to bugger this up, since it was 
 working
 fine this morning.  I recompiled a new 2.2.17 kernel, but AFAIK I picked all
 the options that I needed.  My old (working) kernel was 2.2.14.  Did I forget
 some vital piece of information?
 
 Thanks very much for any help.
 Adam
 
 OH, I also meant to ask.  I used to use linuxconf on my RH systems.  Is there 
 an
 equiv. for Debian?  Something better, perhaps?
 
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Re: Buggered up my router somehow.

2000-08-04 Thread Mark A. Bialik
Kevin wrote:
 
 I see you have both 192.* nets using the same broadcast...
 255.255.255.0
 Can you do that.. anyone ?

Those aren't broadcast addresses... they're subnet masks.

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Is there anybody out there?

2000-08-04 Thread Ed Burke
   I am trying to do an initial install of Debian [New Riders/Mac
Millan Pubs.] and I
ran into a dead end path.  Quite by accident I found I can boot from the
CD, so I don't
need the path to the boot loader.  However the process ended when I
didn't understand
how to get the OS to recgnize my HDD.  It is a scsi HDD. Ed



dwww errors

2000-08-04 Thread Neilen Marais
Hi.

I'm running potato, and my dwww seems to be not quite right.

For instance, on the debian document menu, a number of choices result
in not found messages, or other arb errors. If I manually browse the
same location in netscape useing file:///whatever (by looking at the
URL dwww generates) things usually go dandy.

Sometimes I get errors like:
Access denied.

dwww will not allow you to read file
/usr/share/doc/gnome-users-guide-en/html/index.html 

Going to the page manually works fine.

futhermore, my HTML documentation index is empty.

I have purged, and reinstalled to no avail.  The version of dwww I'm
using is dwww_1.4.3.5-1.9.

Is this an issue with the documentation istalled by the packages, or
dwww itself, or something weird with my system?

Help would be helpful :)  I rather like dwww in concept, I'd just like
to get it to work 100%.

Thanks
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Print accounting

2000-08-04 Thread Neilen Marais
I have an HPLJ 4l set up with magicfilter, and it prints fine, but no
print accounting seems to be taking place... When I print nothing gets
logged at all.  This is how my printcap file looks:

lp|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj4l:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

the file /var/log/lp-acct is always empty.

Any ideas?  Permissions possibly, and if so, which?

Thanks
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Re: Buggered up my router somehow.

2000-08-04 Thread Kevin


whoopsie... :) been in windows too long..
anyhow.. possible though ?

Mark A. Bialik wrote:
 
 Kevin wrote:
 
  I see you have both 192.* nets using the same broadcast...
  255.255.255.0
  Can you do that.. anyone ?
 
 Those aren't broadcast addresses... they're subnet masks.
 
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RE: Is there anybody out there?

2000-08-04 Thread Pollywog

On 04-Aug-1980 Ed Burke wrote:
I am trying to do an initial install of Debian [New Riders/Mac
 Millan Pubs.] and I
 ran into a dead end path.  Quite by accident I found I can boot from the
 CD, so I don't
 need the path to the boot loader.  However the process ended when I
 didn't understand
 how to get the OS to recgnize my HDD.  It is a scsi HDD. Ed
 

You did not specify just what hardware you have.  Is the SCSI Adaptec or what;
model info and such.  Then someone might be able to help.

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Re: Trouble with initial istall

2000-08-04 Thread kmself
On Sun, Aug 03, 1980 at 10:32:39PM -0700, Ed Burke wrote:

Fix your system date.

 Debian helpers, I got partially through an install when I ran in to
 trouble.  Is there ANY body out there that can help?I'm afraid to
 mention scsi but that seems to be where the trouble may be.  I don't
 really know.  If I upset someone on your staff I am truely sorry - It
 was truely unintentional.  This is my 4th attempt to reach you.
 Waiting anxiously,  Ed

First, there's no staff, there's the list.  Participation is totally
voluntary.  If you don't get a response, re-submit your question.
Poorly worded, phrased, titled, or formatted posts tend to get ignored.
Also use archives (Deja, Remarq, Google) to research your problem.

Post your hardware (number/type of HDs, SCSI controller, CPU type (eg:
x86, 68, PowerPC), error messages, and any substantiated hunches you might
have as to what's wrong or what might fix things (but don't speculate
if you really don't know, it's usually not helpful), to this list.

I'd also suggest a subject line along the lines of Install problem:
SCSI foo, where foo is descriptive of your specific SCSI card and
problems you're having with it.

Good luck.

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Re: Buggered up my router somehow.

2000-08-04 Thread Mark A. Bialik
Kevin wrote:
 
 whoopsie... :) been in windows too long..
 anyhow.. possible though ?

Sure, you may have many different networks all using the same subnet
masks. 255.255.255.0 will give his networks a network number of
192.168.1.0 with a broadcast of 192.168.1.255, and
192.168.0.0/192.168.0.255.  All the IP's in-between are useable.

I forget if he said he was using a router nor not... If so, it *could*
be that his router is unaware of how to get to either of the 192.168
nets... not enough info was provided. Running RIP/routed or entering
static routes should clear that up. If this is a linux router on the
same box, could it be that IP forwarding has not been turned on?

Mark

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Re: autofs question

2000-08-04 Thread kmself
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 12:15:21AM -0400, Brian Stults wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm using the kernel-based auto mounter, autofs.  I have all my mount
 points in the default /var/autofs/misc, and I have symbolic links to
 them in /mnt.  However, whenever I do a listing of /mnt (either from an
 xterm, or from within an application such as StarOffice), all of the
 devices controlled by autofs are mounted.  Is there a way to prevent
 this?  If I want to access my CD-RW from within StarOffice, I would like
 to be able to go into the directory called /mnt and then go into the
 directory called /mnt/cdrw.  But I would like to be able to do this
 without inadvertantly automatically mounting all the devices controlled
 by autofs.  Any suggestions?

I haven't used autofs since I converted from RH last year.  IIRC mount
behavior is controlled by a couple of config files.  I'm not sure
whether or not access methods can be specified and discriminated
for/against (say, like diald allows/dissallows net connection by
activity type).

Suggest you post your config files, relevant parts of your directory
tree, and examples of behavior which cause/don't cause filesystems to
mount.

I found autofs more trouble than it was worth.  There are a number of
GUI apps which provide for mounting and umounting specific filesystems
fairly transparently, for Gnome, KDE, and WindowMaker.  This might be a
preferred alternative.

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Re: Distribution Download

2000-08-04 Thread romeu

Thanks, Justin. This is the kind of ftp program I was looking for.

Gaucho




   
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When I was at school and behind a firewall...BulletProof FTP worked fine
for
dowloading...see if that works for ya.

Justin

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 I want to download the entire distribution of linux from ftp.debian.org.
 What (windows) program should I use for this purpose? I mean, I want to
 select the directory ftp.debian.org/debian and download it all with just
 one click. I tried CuteFtp, but it does not deal good with proxies
 authentication (oh, I'm at work, so I'm using Windows, behind a
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Re: Buggered up my router somehow.

2000-08-04 Thread Adam Scriven

At 14:36 2000/08/04 -0400, you wrote:

whoopsie... :) been in windows too long..
anyhow.. possible though ?


Yup.  That just means to use the whole C block as one subnet.
Basically, I've got 2 different subnets, 192.168.0.* and 192.168.1.*.

BUT, I got it to work...and I got my portforwarding working too.

This stuff _isn't_ impossible!
8-)

Thanks!
Adam

Toronto, Ontario, Canada



Re: emacs and screen

2000-08-04 Thread Christopher Tessone
On 4 August 2000 at 10:28, Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Does anybody know if it's possible to make screen get along better with
 emacs?  They have a whole lot of overlapping keyboard commands, and I'd
 like it if screen didn't grab all my C-a's and stuff.  I've read the
 screen FAQ and man page, but it didn't really address it.  Does anybody
 have a .screenrc which remaps screen commands to commands that don't
 conflict with emacs?  Remapping emacs keys would be bad as at this point
 they're pretty much hardcoded into my brain.

The solution I use is to put escape ^ww in my screenrc.  That makes
screen use C-w as the command character instead of C-a.  You can use
C-w w to get a literal ^W.

Chris

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Re: Adapted AHA1542 Problems.

2000-08-04 Thread Adam Scriven

At 13:22 2000/08/03 -0400, you wrote:

At 11:11 2000/08/03 -0600, you wrote:
each time i re-install windows on the box (every 6 months, tops), it 
fscks the pnp info on every card, so i sometimes have to set my card on 
pnp or manual config. when this happens, changing the io address fixes 
the device or resource busy problem. if you can, you may want to try 
changing the card io address and passing the new value to the module. not 
the nicest solution, but has worked for me before.


Thanks for the info.
I set it back to it's default IO address 330, and it worked like a charm.

Thanks!
Adam

Toronto, Ontario, Canada



Very large SCSI drives and partitioning.

2000-08-04 Thread Richard Kaszeta
Okay, due to some *very* large storage requirements, I've gotten a
ST173404LW drive (73.4 Gig Ultra2 160 drive), and I've hooked it up to
the onboard AIC-7890 controller on my ASUS p2b-s motherboard (which
has worked fine with my 9 and 18 GB ATLAS drives).  

However, I can't partition the new drive.  Cfdisk on debian 2.1
refuses to talk to it at all.  fdisk will talk to it, but thinks it
only has 4.5 GB of capacity.  If I go into expert mode, I can set the
number of cylinders to 14,100 (from manufacturers data sheet), and the
heads to 24 (again, from manufacturer), but then the drive has 424
sectors, and fdisk won't allow sectors63.

Same thing happens whether large drive translation is turned on or
off---if I don't overflow one number (like cylinders), I overflow
another (sectors).  

Any ideas?

As an aside, if I don't partition the drive it seems to work fine,
i.e. 'fdisk /dev/sdb'.  Can I run it like this safely?

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FIXED: Buggered up my router somehow.

2000-08-04 Thread Adam Scriven

Ok, no laughing.

I setup the TrinityOS firewall script too.  I didn't mention this, but I 
have no idea why.


I had the $INTIF setup wrong.  eth1 != eth0.

Sorry.
Adam
Toronto, Ontario, Canada




Re: [Q] Can Samba mount 'shared' (not 'served') Win drives ?

2000-08-04 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
At 11:44 on Aug 4, Dirk Eddelbuettel combined all the right letters to say:

 No, I mean C:\ as the main partition on the 'desktop' computer.

snip

 Permissions are read-access for everyone.  Can I read those from Linux via
 Samba?

What *have* you tried? If you do a `smbmount` (no args) it blah blahs
about mounting smbfs stuffs. At the bottom is the snippet that someone
posted earlier,

mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test

Right now, I have the e: drive of the windows box to my left mounted by 

mount -t smbfs //crackbox/e /mnt/smb/crackbox/

If it were password protected by windows share, I'd do the same thing,
let it try to mount it, and then smbmount *asks* me for the password to
access the directory.

Obviously, I had to create the /mnt/smb/crackbox/ dir, but that's not
something out of the ordinary.

Do you get any sort of errors or anything? When I've had problems in the
past, I know errors were reported back (I can't remember what they were,
but I know they were there).

-nicole



Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs

2000-08-04 Thread Lehel Bernadt

On 04-Aug-2000 Carl Fink wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:33PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote:
  
 You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped
 tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar,
 and zip programs are all installed.
 
 Interestingly, though, it can't browse cpio archives.

mc's vfs uses the scripts in /usr/lib/mc/extfs, so it can be easily
extended to handle other formats too.



Re: Very large SCSI drives and partitioning.

2000-08-04 Thread Richard Kaszeta
Peter S Galbraith writes (Re: Very large SCSI drives and partitioning. ):

Richard Kaszeta wrote:

  I've gotten a
 ST173404LW drive (73.4 Gig Ultra2 160 drive), 
 However, I can't partition the new drive.  Cfdisk on debian 2.1
 refuses to talk to it at all.  fdisk will talk to it, but thinks it
 only has 4.5 GB of capacity.

Did you try passing the disk geometry to the kernel at boot time?
e.g. using lilo:

 LILO: somekernelname sdb=14100,24,424

Just guessing here...

Well, the kernel seems to be able to figure out most of it by itself:

SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 143374738 [70007 MB] [70.0 GB]

which is indeed the correct sector count and capacity according to Seagate's 
spec sheet.

Here's excerpts from 'scsiinfo -a /dev/sdb' for it:

  Serial Number '3CE02MCM7044LENE'
  Data from Rigid Disk Drive Geometry Page
  
  Number of cylinders14100
  Number of heads24
  Starting write precomp 0
  Starting reduced current   0
  Drive step rate0
  Landing Zone Cylinder  0
  RPL0
  Rotational Offset  0
  Rotational Rate10016

  Data from Format Device Page
  
  Removable Medium   0
  Supports Hard Sectoring1
  Supports Soft Sectoring0
  Addresses assigned by surface  0
  Tracks per Zone1810
  Alternate sectors per zone 0
  Alternate tracks per zone  6
  Alternate tracks per lun   0
  Sectors per track  424
  Bytes per sector   512
  Interleave 1
  Track skew factor  95
  Cylinder skew factor   85

So apparently scsiinfo and Seagate appear to agree that
cylinder=14100, and heads=24.

Sectors appear to be 424, which means that total raw capacity is
24*14100*424=143481600, which is slightly larger than the 143374738
reported by the kernel and seagate.

However, fdisk doesn't allow me to partition it:

  zombie:~# fdisk /dev/sdb
  Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun or SGI disklabel
  Building a new DOS disklabel. Changes will remain in memory only,
  until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous
  content won't be recoverable.
  
  
  The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4471.
  There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
  and could in certain setups cause problems with:
  1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
  2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
  (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
  
  Command (m for help): 

So it's defaulting to a cylinder count of 4471, not the 14100 it should be.

So let's try expert mode:

  Command (m for help): x
  
  Disk /dev/sdb: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 4471 cylinders
  
  Nr AF  Hd Sec  Cyl  Hd Sec  Cyl   StartSize ID
   1 00   0   00   0   00   0   0 00
   2 00   0   00   0   00   0   0 00
   3 00   0   00   0   00   0   0 00
   4 00   0   00   0   00   0   0 00
  
  Expert command (m for help): h
  Number of heads (1-256, default 64): 24
  
  Expert command (m for help): c  
  Number of cylinders (1-65535, default 4471): 14100
  
  The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 14100.
  There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
  and could in certain setups cause problems with:
  1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
  2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
 (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
  
So far, so good...

  Expert command (m for help): s
  Number of sectors (1-63, default 32): 464
  Value out of range.
  Number of sectors (1-63, default 32): 

So it's not letting me up the sector count.  So the max capacity I've
seen so far in fdisk is 63*14100*24=21319200, or about 1/7th of the
real capacity.

'mke2fs /dev/sdb' appears to work fine, however.  I still don't know
if this won't hurt anything...  Just skiddish before trusing 60 GB of
data to it (although it is backed up via networker)





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Loading fetchmail man page in Gnome-help uses all memory

2000-08-04 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello list,

I noticed a curious thing this evening - when I load the fetchmail man
page in the Gnome help browser, it grabs all my memory - 256MB and ramps
up swap usage until all that's gone too - another 256MB - previously
none was used.  CPU utilisation runs at about 75% on both cpus (SMP
system) while this happens.

This all takes about 10 seconds on this system.  It then frees all the
memory, effectively flushing the cache and buffer memory, and displays
the fetchmail man page ok.

Apart from the cpus being tied up, there's no other obvious effects or
consequences - nothing crashes (tried a kernel compile and running
Netscape) and the system then seems fine, although swap usage doesn't
return to 0MB immediately but seems to drop off over time, probably as
the system moves stuff back into main memory.  I just logged out and
back in and that cleared most of the swap - only 9.5MB used now, down
from 64MB after loading the man page several times, dropping to 29MB
just before I logged out.

There don't seem to be any spurious processes left hanging around.

This happens on consecutive loads on this man page: start
Gnome help, select Man Pages, select User Commands, select fetchmail -
memory used.  Use the Back button, select User Commands (again), select
fetchmail - memory used.

I've got three discrete 2.2.17 Potatos on this system, all with the same
s/w installed - I've tried it on two of them with identical results -
reboots make no difference.  At least it shows I'm keeping them in
step;)

This doesn't happen if the fetchmail man page is loaded from a Gnome
term: 'man fetchmail'

dmesg gives:

VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for tasklist_applet...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for XF86_SVGA...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for mount...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3...

I'm getting really crappy conections at the moment so I've not been able
to check the bug list, but if any one else gets the same behaviour I'll
check it out and raise a bug if neccessary.

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xterm and shell behaviors

2000-08-04 Thread Thomas J. Hamman
I'm a new convert to Debian, and I need a little help changing a few behaviors 
of xterm and the shell (bash).

1.  When I press tab to autocomplete something in the command line, and there 
are more than one possible autocompletion, the shell BEEPS.  This is very 
annoying, especially when my gf is asleep within ten feet of my computer. :)  
How can I disable this?

2.  I like my xterms to have a black background and gray text, like the 
console; how can I make this the default setting?  (I know how to do it with 
command line options, but I want it to be default.)  I noticed there are 
commented lines for such settings in /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm, but 
uncommenting those lines seems to have no effect.

3.  The delete key seems to function the same as the backspace key in xterm; 
how can I change it to delete the character in _front_ of the cursor instead?

Any help will be appreciated.  I'm enjoying Debian, it's much better than the 
other distros I've tried. :)

Tom



RE: autofs question

2000-08-04 Thread Lehel Bernadt

On 03-Aug-2000 Brian Stults wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm using the kernel-based auto mounter, autofs.  I have all my mount
 points in the default /var/autofs/misc, and I have symbolic links to
 them in /mnt.  However, whenever I do a listing of /mnt (either from an
 xterm, or from within an application such as StarOffice), all of the
 devices controlled by autofs are mounted.  

This is normal, since ls or soffice will try to readlink(2) the symlinks, thus
getting autofs mount them.

 Is there a way to prevent
 this?  If I want to access my CD-RW from within StarOffice, I would like
 to be able to go into the directory called /mnt and then go into the
 directory called /mnt/cdrw.  But I would like to be able to do this
 without inadvertantly automatically mounting all the devices controlled
 by autofs.  Any suggestions?

If you stay with this configuration, you cannot change this behavior. 
The problem is that when you don't use links, you can't refer to the mountpoint
while browsing from a gui, since this is created when you try to access it.
Most of these programs however can use bookmarks for directory URLs too. So you
can add the mountpoints to your bookmarks; under mc you could use the directory
hotlist.

HTH,
Lehel



Re: Very large SCSI drives and partitioning.

2000-08-04 Thread Gary Hennigan
Richard Kaszeta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Peter S Galbraith writes (Re: Very large SCSI drives and partitioning. ):
 
 Richard Kaszeta wrote:
 
   I've gotten a
  ST173404LW drive (73.4 Gig Ultra2 160 drive), 
  However, I can't partition the new drive.  Cfdisk on debian 2.1
  refuses to talk to it at all.  fdisk will talk to it, but thinks it
  only has 4.5 GB of capacity.
 
 Did you try passing the disk geometry to the kernel at boot time?
 e.g. using lilo:
 
  LILO: somekernelname sdb=14100,24,424
 
 Just guessing here...
 
 Well, the kernel seems to be able to figure out most of it by itself:
 
 SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 143374738 [70007 MB] [70.0 
 GB]
 
 which is indeed the correct sector count and capacity according to Seagate's 
 spec sheet.
 
 Here's excerpts from 'scsiinfo -a /dev/sdb' for it:
 
   Serial Number '3CE02MCM7044LENE'
   Data from Rigid Disk Drive Geometry Page
   
   Number of cylinders14100
   Number of heads24
   Starting write precomp 0
   Starting reduced current   0
   Drive step rate0
   Landing Zone Cylinder  0
   RPL0
   Rotational Offset  0
   Rotational Rate10016
 
   Data from Format Device Page
   
   Removable Medium   0
   Supports Hard Sectoring1
   Supports Soft Sectoring0
   Addresses assigned by surface  0
   Tracks per Zone1810
   Alternate sectors per zone 0
   Alternate tracks per zone  6
   Alternate tracks per lun   0
   Sectors per track  424
   Bytes per sector   512
   Interleave 1
   Track skew factor  95
   Cylinder skew factor   85
 
 So apparently scsiinfo and Seagate appear to agree that
 cylinder=14100, and heads=24.
 
 Sectors appear to be 424, which means that total raw capacity is
 24*14100*424=143481600, which is slightly larger than the 143374738
 reported by the kernel and seagate.
 
 However, fdisk doesn't allow me to partition it:
 
   zombie:~# fdisk /dev/sdb
   Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun or SGI 
 disklabel
   Building a new DOS disklabel. Changes will remain in memory only,
   until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous
   content won't be recoverable.
   
   
   The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4471.
   There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
   and could in certain setups cause problems with:
   1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
   2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
   
   Command (m for help): 
 
 So it's defaulting to a cylinder count of 4471, not the 14100 it should be.
 
 So let's try expert mode:
 
   Command (m for help): x
   
   Disk /dev/sdb: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 4471 cylinders
   
   Nr AF  Hd Sec  Cyl  Hd Sec  Cyl   StartSize ID
1 00   0   00   0   00   0   0 00
2 00   0   00   0   00   0   0 00
3 00   0   00   0   00   0   0 00
4 00   0   00   0   00   0   0 00
   
   Expert command (m for help): h
   Number of heads (1-256, default 64): 24
   
   Expert command (m for help): c  
   Number of cylinders (1-65535, default 4471): 14100
   
   The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 14100.
   There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
   and could in certain setups cause problems with:
   1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
   2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
  (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
   
 So far, so good...
 
   Expert command (m for help): s
   Number of sectors (1-63, default 32): 464
   Value out of range.
   Number of sectors (1-63, default 32): 
 
 So it's not letting me up the sector count.  So the max capacity I've
 seen so far in fdisk is 63*14100*24=21319200, or about 1/7th of the
 real capacity.
 
 'mke2fs /dev/sdb' appears to work fine, however.  I still don't know
 if this won't hurt anything...  Just skiddish before trusing 60 GB of
 data to it (although it is backed up via networker)

There shouldn't be anything inherently wrong with a 70G
partition. Linux limit for a partition size is somewhere in the TB
range. I bet it'll make for some LONG fsck times though!

You might read the Large Disk HOWTO to see if it gives you any
ideas. It's mostly for IDE, but there is at least a section
SCSI. Perhaps you can feed the kernel a geometry of your own choosing
via the lilo append option with something like:

append=sda=8924,255,63

Don't rely on my math above either

The 1MB ?= 1000 kB ?= 1024000 bytes thing always confuses me and I
believe 

Re: gnus-list-identifiers

2000-08-04 Thread Felix Natter
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Felix == Felix Natter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Felix Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  If I get a mailing list that prefixes subject lines with
  [Cocoon Devel], how do I remove it?
  
  In earlier versions of Gnus, this worked:
  
  (setq gnus-list-identifiers \\(\\[Cocoon Devel\\]\\))
 
 Felix It seems like with Gnus 5.8.7, you have to omit the
 Felix subexpression-saving braces (\\(...\\)).
  
  however, as of 5.8.7 it no longer works :-(
 
 Felix I remember having read about this in the manual - it seems
 Felix like it was mentioned like this in there. Maybe this is
 Felix still an error in the manual.  Can you tell me where this
 Felix is described ?
 
 Info Page -- Article Treatment -- Article Hiding
 
 and
 
 C-h v gnus-list-identifiers
 
 If you can no longer use a regexps (like the documentation says you
 can), then I don't know how it could work for more then one mailing
 list. However, at the moment I only do have one mailing list, so I
 will try that.

No. you still use a regular expression, but without \\(..\\) surrounding
it (this was used for subexpression replacement. i.e.
you have str=hello world..., then you do
(string-match \\(hello\\) world.* str)
which gives you
(match-string 1) = hello
and you can easily replace the subexpression with ).
If you still do this, it will confuse Gnus because your regular-expression
is wrapped in another one, which uses \\(..\\) to find subexpressions..

C-h v gnus-list-identifiers:

gnus-list-identifiers's value is 
nil

Documentation:
Regexp that matches list identifiers to be removed from subject.
This can also be a list of regexps.

You can customize this variable.

Defined in `gnus-sum'.
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Re: Helix Gnome Evolution 0.3

2000-08-04 Thread Felix Natter
Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 At 12:03 PM 7/28/00 -0400, Ethan Pierce wrote:
 Hi, I was reading today on slashdot about Evolution 0.3.  They have a
 download link for the tar.gz file.  I was wondering if the apt-get utility
 will work if I use the spidermonkey.helixgnome.com source for the update?
 Has anyone else tried this?
 
 Thanks -Ethan
 
 
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 I don't want to start a war here, but what's so great about Evolution? It
 looks more like a regression to me. It imitates M$ in more than one way: it
 looks like it, has the same bloat factor and packs way to many features in
 a single frame. Where is the innovation? I switched from KDE to Gnome
 because I saw smarter programs being developed by the Gnome team, but after
 seeing Gnumeric and now this Evolution I start to doubt.

I don't think that Evolution is targeted towards experienced users. I think
the purpose of it is to get some Windows-users to switch to linux, and to
provide an MS-exchange server. It seems like it will be better and surely
safer than Outlook, so there is much reason for windows-users to switch to
linux/GNOME. It would be great if evolution could use for example the GIMP
ui (many windows), but in that case it might not succeed in providing an
easy replacement for Outlook.

afaik there are other programs for experienced users (balsa ?, (x)emacs
with VM/Gnus ...).

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Re: Helix Gnome Evolution 0.3

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 09:03:57PM +0200, Felix Natter wrote:

 It seems like it will be better and surely safer than Outlook,

Why better and, most particularly, why safer?  Given that GNOME is
built to allow components to interact with one another via scripting,
there is no reason to suppose that the same problems faced by MS
Office could not find their way into a GNOME environment.  Once you
start building tools to make their interaction apparently seamless,
you face the possibility that someone is going to exploit that
seamlessness.  There is nothing magical about Free software that
makes it immune to those problems.

A

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Re: Fetchmail isn't working the way it should.

2000-08-04 Thread Alberto


use:

poll POP_SERVER protocol POP3:
user POP_USER, no keep, no rewrite, fetchall
password YOUR_PASSWD;


At 23:11 03/08/00 +0200, Sven Burgener wrote:

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:02:19PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have recently setup Fetchmail as a demon polling 3 mail servers
 every five minutes when I'm online.

Wow, that's quite frequent.

 It downloads the mail without problems but it doesn't delete it
 from the servers after downloading.  I do not have 'keep' in any
 of the user lines in .fetchmailrc.

Have you tried 'fetchall'? Worked for me.

[snip]

 Any ideas anyone?

HTH

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mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount
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How is leafnode's delaybody supposed to work?

2000-08-04 Thread Christian Pernegger
I'd like to proxy news in a LAN with a potato server and 2 Windows clients.
Both low and high traffic text groups will be read and some binary groups
scavenged :)

The obvious choice for me was leafnode, BUT the standard mode where it gets
all messages in all groups is obviously to expensive in terms of bandwidth,
as well as ineffective - probably only 1/10th of all messages are actually
read.

In delaybody=1 mode it will download only headers, replace the bodies with a
pseudo-message comfirming it has been marked for the next retreival and
retreive the real body the next time fetchnews is run...

It says in the docs this doesn't work with Netscape, but it also doesn't
work properly with Forte Agent or XNews (=every reader with cache). Also,
I'd have to cron fetchnews every minute to allow the users normal reading.

Did I setup something wrong? If not, what would one use delaybody for?

And, most importantly, how can I achieve the desired effect: (not
necessarily with leafnode)

* clients can connect to the local newsserver and see the combined active
files of all configured servers

* headers are refreshed regularly and stored on the server

* as soon as a user requests a body, if is fetched and piped through from
the upstream server


Regards

Christian



X crashed on laptop update

2000-08-04 Thread Karsten Bolding
Hello

I just updated updated X (woody) on my laptop with the result it does
not work anymore. From windows I get it's a ATI LT PRO and I use the
Mach64 server. I've not changed anything else in X.
The only thing I get is the lowest few pixels on the screen are turned
on - the rest is black

Sorry I a similar question has just been posted but I've been away for a
week where I could not follow the mailing list and Sunday I go again and
would like the laptop to work.

Karsten

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