DISEÑO WEB

2000-09-18 Thread programmer
DISEÑO WEB
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Unidentified subject!

2000-09-18 Thread shireta
Hola a todos,

Hice un apt-get dist-upgrade para pasar de slink a potato, y después de 
1.001 historias el apt me dice lo siguiente:

Setting up modutils (2.3.16-1) ...
depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented

dpkg: error processing modutils (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of modconf:
 modconf depends on modutils (= 2.1.85-14); however:

Supongo que será algún problema de versiones y por eso los modutils no se dejan 
instalar. Para mas información tengo 2.0.36.
A ver si me podeis dar alguna idea. Gracias

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slink2potato y modutils

2000-09-18 Thread shireta
Hola a todos,

Hice un apt-get dist-upgrade para pasar de slink a potato, y después de 
1.001 historias el apt me dice lo siguiente:

Setting up modutils (2.3.16-1) ...
depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented

dpkg: error processing modutils (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of modconf:
 modconf depends on modutils (= 2.1.85-14); however:

Supongo que será algún problema de versiones y por eso los modutils no se dejan 
instalar. Para mas información tengo 2.0.36.
A ver si me podeis dar alguna idea. Gracias

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Re: El user www-data me da la lata. :)

2000-09-18 Thread Jaime Fernández Martínez
Yo utilizo www-data en PostgreSQL.  Sin embargo, recuerdo algún
problemilla al dar de alta este usuario.  Echale un ojo a la
documentación, creo que el nombre de usuario debe escribirse entre
comillas en las órdenes CREATE USER y GRANT.
Por lo demás, no le veo ventajas o inconvenientes a utilizar un
identificador de usuario u otro, siempre que en tus CGIs, PHPs o lo que
sea utilices el mismo identificador.

Ismael Canales escribió:
 
 Saludos debianeros, una preguntilla de apache y bases de datos.
 
 Bueno pues no puedo crear un usuario www-dat en postgresql,
 asi que he tenido que cambiarle el user al apache y ponerle nobody para que
 pueda acceder a las bases de datos.
 
 ¿ Es esto correcto ?,  ¿ Está mal elegido www-data ?  ¿ O por el contrario hay
 otra forma mejor de plantear el tema de los usuarios-apache-bases de datos ?
 
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No tengo demoño de impresión!

2000-09-18 Thread Ignacio García Fernández




Hola lista.

Pues eso, que despus de instalar dos potatos en dos 
PC, ninguno de los dos tiene daemon para imprimir. Si ejecuto lpc y le digo 
status me contesta que no hay trabajos, etc. y diche 'no daemon 
present'.

Uno tiene lpr y apsfilter y el otro lpr y 
magicfilter.

Si le digo /etc/init.d/lpd restart no me da ningn 
error pero igual.

Por otra parte,

cat fichero/dev/lp1

si que funciona, pero los postscript me los va poniendo en 
cola y ah se quedan esperando.

Francamente, no tengo ni repajolera idea de por donde pueden 
ir los tiros :-|
Alguna idea?

Gracias.
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Un matemtico es un ciego en un 
cuarto oscurobuscando un gato negro que no est 
alli. 
C. Darwin.


Re: No puedo entar como usuario.

2000-09-18 Thread Rodolfo García
Debian no te quita los echos ni nada de lo que tu pongas, cuando actualizas el 
sistema hace una comprobación a ver si el archivo se ha modificado y si es así 
te pregunta que quieres hacer.

Un saludo.

On lun, 18 sep 2000, Hue-Bond escribió:

 El lunes 18 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 03:28:00 +0200, Juan Carlos Muro 
 contaba:
 
 Pues todo porque tenía la línea  '#debug=echo' en '/etc/init.d/rc' 
 descomentada,
 y según dice en el mismo script, eso se hace para depuración.
 
  Yo  tenía mis  propios echo's  puestos por  ahí, pero  acabo de
  comprobar  que  la actualización  a  potato  se ha  molestado  en
  quitármelos todos.
 
 
 Cuando ejecuto '/etc/init.d/gpm start' se me cuelga el ordenador.
 
  Prueba  con 'gpmconfig'  a ver  si  será que  está cogiendo  el
  dispositivo equivocado y por eso peta.
 
 
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Actualizacion slink-potato desde CD-ROM: imposible

2000-09-18 Thread García

Hola. Qué poco tráfico tiene esta lista. 
Tras más de año y medio de espera y de sufrir con la slink y el nuevo
hardware sin soporte, aquí llegó por fin la potato. La he instalado en un par
de máquinas y bien. He actualizado 3 ó 4 máquinas por red, y sin mayor
problema. Pero... para mi casa y para un PC que tengo aislado de la red, me he
comprado los 4 CDs (3 oficiales más el non-US, non-free, Helix-Gnome y KDE) y
me puse a actualizar.

Lo primero que dice el Manual, tras las precauciones de rigor, es instalar los
paquetes apt y dpkg que vienen en el directorio /cdrom/upgrade del primer CD, o
en dists/main/upgrade-i386 de la red, que trae esos programas enlazados
estáticamente.

Endispués con apt-cdrom add  le endiño los 4 CDs para que los registre.
Más aluego le doy el apt-get update y se lo traga todo.
La hora de la verdad: apt-get dist-upgrade. Voy a quitar 7 paquetes, a poner 39
nuevos y a actualizar 387 (números inventados). ¿OK? Yes. Introduzca el primer
CD y presione Intro con todas sus fuerzas. Cumplo sus órdenes humildemente y
cuando el hideputa va a empezar...

E: Internal error. Could not perform immediate configuration.

Por más que he andado con el apt.conf y que he mirado por todos lados, nada que
hacer. He comparado los paquetes apt y dpkg del CD con los de la red, que me he
traído de RedIris, y son iguales.

¿Es posible que después de año y medio tenga este fallo tan tonto? ¿Es potato
una patata? ¿Nadie por ahí se ha actualizado desde CD y le ha pasado esto?
Una solución quiero.

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Posible BUG en SORT

2000-09-18 Thread Fernando Ros Botella
Hola, me llamo  Fernando y soy nuevo en esta lista, me han hablado de ella y me 
han dicho
que aqui podriais decirme como solucionar mi problema.
Para centraros os dire que estoy haciendo un proyecto de trafico de red en la 
universidad de 
Valencia, y me he encontrado que cuando tengo un fichero como el siguiente, con 
numeros decimales:

563*0.3*
4.86*0.2*
765*465*
5656*0.1*
0.783*0.0004*


NOTA: * es el separador utilizado
NOTA 2:  Todos los numeros de una misma linea son informacion comun de un mismo 
elemento y
si se ordena mediante un campo todo la linea ha de cambiar de orden (talcomo 
hace o deberia
hacer un SORT)
utilizo el comando:

sort +1 -t * -n nombrefichero

Deberia ordenarme las lineas por el campo 1, y ademas como esta la n de tratar 
como
numeros, deberia ordenar bien , pero no sucede asi, cuando tengo 0. con 
otro numero decimal
no los ordena bien, sin embargo si esta en el campo 0 parece ser que si va bien.


Bueno, os agradezco de antemano vuestra ayuda, y espero recibir alguna 
explicacion o solucion a mi problema, 
o ambas.


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Re: Posible BUG en SORT

2000-09-18 Thread void
hu, hola Fernando , yo creo que el problema esta en la sintaxis
empleada en la línea, la seperación entre campos parece hacerse en el gnu
sort preferentemente con -k para marcar el campo a usar para establecer el
orden , estando los campos numerados de 1 a n, por compatibilidad se
mantiene en +n donde n es el campo y ¡toma valores de 0 a n!.
Luego los dos comandos siguientes tienen el mismo resultado.

bio:~# sort -k 1 -n -t * prueba
0.783*0.0004*
4.86*0.2*
563*0.3*
765*465*
5656*0.1*

bio:~# sort +0 -n -t * prueba
0.783*0.0004*
4.86*0.2*
563*0.3*
765*465*
5656*0.1*

Tu comando sort por tanto te ordena las líneas considerando los datos del
segundo campo , fijate :))

bio:~# sort +1 -n -t * prueba
5656*0.1*
0.783*0.0004*
4.86*0.2*
563*0.3*
765*465*

Un saludo :)))

para mas información info sort ( es bastante mejor que el man ;)) )

Bueno lo dicho sort compañero :))





Re: less

2000-09-18 Thread void
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Hue-Bond wrote:

  a) grep holas archivo | less

  ¿Es posible editar  o guardar desde less lo que  le llega desde
  la  salida  estándar?  Lo  he  necesitado un  par  de  veces  y  al
  intentarlo pulsando v (para editar) me  dice que no se puede. Quizá
  haya alguna forma que no se me ha ocurrido...


holas
1)
s archivo de destino te salva la salida a un nuevo archivo
no se si es eso a lo que te refieres :/
2)
soy un féliz usuario de pine ...
3)
:)) gracias por la información :)

un saludo




Fetchmail-daemon | bounce | spam?

2000-09-18 Thread inetd

hola amigos debianeros!

no suelo intervenir en la lista aunque la suelo leer. no suelo intervenir
entre otras cosas porque aunque soy debianero convencido no estoy muy activo
ultimamente -linuxeramente hablando- y tampoco tengo mucho tiempo.

el caso es que hoy he bajado con fetchmail el correo y al descargar los
mensajes de la lista me encuentro con esto:


leyendo mensaje 1 de 23 (67899 octetos)
..fetchmail:
Error de SMTP: 250 Reset state
fetchmail: mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


y me ha dado un poco de mal rollo porque no tengo ni idea de lo que es. luego
he entrado por telnet en mi servidor pop y veo algo tal que asi:


Subject: Cursos de capacitacion empresarial
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:56:36 -0300
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
Content-Type: multipart/related;
type=multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_000_0071_01C02028.FBD20680
X-Infomail-Spawn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a 1348 destinos
X-Infomail-Id: 969151813.5FD001AC1E039F.31813
Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resent-From: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
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ojito, que antes de la cabecera habia un campo From: que se ha tirado un
buen rato desfilando por mi terminal.

a ver si alguien me puede aclarar un poco a que es debido eso de:

mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

porque no entiendo que fetchmail, o fetchmail en modo daemon envie mensajes
a otras direcciones.

Tambien me gustaria que alguien me explique, o me de referencia al
correspondiente texto o manual, que es eso del bounce porque el tema me
tiene mosqueadito.

muchas gracias!

un saludo.



Re: No tengo demoño de impresión!

2000-09-18 Thread Luis M. García
El Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Ignacio García Fernández escribió:
 
 Hola lista.
 
 Pues eso, que después de instalar dos potatos en dos PC, ninguno de los dos
 tiene daemon para imprimir. Si ejecuto lpc y le digo status me contesta que no
 hay trabajos, etc. y diche 'no daemon present'.
 
 Uno tiene lpr y apsfilter y el otro lpr y magicfilter.
 
 Si le digo /etc/init.d/lpd restart no me da ningún error pero igual.
 
 Por otra parte,
 
 cat fichero/dev/lp1
    
El puerto de la impresora es /dev/lp0, no me acuerdo desde qué versión del
kernel. Quizás sólo sea ese el problema.

Saludos.



Re: No tengo demoño de impresión!

2000-09-18 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On lun, sep 18, 2000 at 03:24:55 +0200, Luis M. García wrote:
  cat fichero/dev/lp1
 
 El puerto de la impresora es /dev/lp0, no me acuerdo desde qué versión del
 kernel. Quizás sólo sea ese el problema.

Desde 2.2.0.
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Re: Fetchmail-daemon | bounce | spam?

2000-09-18 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On lun, sep 18, 2000 at 03:08:35 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 leyendo mensaje 1 de 23 (67899 octetos)
 ..fetchmail:
 Error de SMTP: 250 Reset state
 fetchmail: mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 y me ha dado un poco de mal rollo porque no tengo ni idea de lo que es. luego
 he entrado por telnet en mi servidor pop y veo algo tal que asi:

El Outlook y su maravillosa potencia generando cabeceras mail estándar :-|

Pon en tu ~/.fetchmailrc la línea que te marco:

poll pop.kaka.org # Servidor al que llamar
user pepe # Nombre de usuario en este servidor
pass X  # Password para esta cuenta de correo
is pepe here  # Usuario local al que enviar el correo
mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %s # Procesa procmail los mensajes no el MTA
~
Si tu MTA es sendmail, si hay errores o falta de algo puede tardar bastante
e incluso no aceptar el mensaje mandando una y otra vez preguntas al
servidor referentes a qué es exáctamente esa cosa que le viene.

Espero que te ayude, a mi me sirvió.
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RE: No tengo demoño de impresión!

2000-09-18 Thread Ignacio García Fernández

 Por otra parte,

 cat fichero/dev/lp1
   
El puerto de la impresora es /dev/lp0, no me acuerdo desde qué versión del
kernel. Quizás sólo sea ese el problema.


Creo que no (no recuerdo exactamante porque la Debian la tengo en casa). Aún
así, he probado con lp0 y con lp1. He reconfigurado el printcap a mano y con
el magicfilterconfig. Nada. El error que da exactamente es
'no daemon present'

Vamos, que el demoño colorado se me ha ido de vacaciones.





RE: Fetchmail-daemon | bounce | spam?

2000-09-18 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos...

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 leyendo mensaje 1 de 23 (67899 octetos)
 ..
 fetchmail:
 Error de SMTP: 250 Reset state
 fetchmail: mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A mi me ha dado el mismo error con el mismo mensaje de los cursos estos,
terminaba el fetchamil con violacion de segmento y todo.

Lo he recogido usando el mutt.

 Subject: Cursos de capacitacion empresarial
 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:56:36 -0300
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 X-Priority: 3
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5
 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
 Content-Type: multipart/related;
 type=multipart/alternative;
 boundary==_NextPart_000_0071_01C02028.FBD20680
 X-Infomail-Spawn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a 1348 destinos
 X-Infomail-Id: 969151813.5FD001AC1E039F.31813
 Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-From: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 X-Mailing-List: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 archive/latest/17334
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[no subject]

2000-09-18 Thread Marco Contreras
Mi nombre es Marco Antonio Contreras, yo tengo varias dudas sobre el paquete
de sudo, bueno la maquina donde estoy instalando sudo es una 
HP-9000, edite el archivo /etc/sudoers  y le di privilegios a un usuario
normal de ejecutar un commando propio de root, en este caso el comando
crontab, pero como lo debe ejecutar el usuario normal?..


y la otra es ejecute el commando de sudo de la siguinte 

./sudo -u marco -s /bin/crontab

y me sale este error..


Sorry, user root is not allowed to execute ´/bin/crontab´ as marco
on hp-9000

 si alguien me puede ayudar se lo agradecere mucho ...












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Re: less

2000-09-18 Thread Hue-Bond
El lunes 18 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 14:25:06 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
contaba:

s archivo de destino te salva la salida a un nuevo archivo
no se si es eso a lo que te refieres :/

 Sí!  Musha jrasia!!


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no puedo instalar Kdiskcat

2000-09-18 Thread rtop03
hola amigos:
no puedo instalar kdiskcat me dice que tengo mal instaladas la librerias
Qt y kde.
algun programa similar a este ...
ya instale como 300 Mg de librerias y nada...
muchas gracias 



Re: No puedo entar como usuario.

2000-09-18 Thread Hue-Bond
El lunes 18 de septiembre de 2000 a la(s) 10:18:38 +0200, Rodolfo García 
contaba:

Debian no te quita los echos ni nada de lo que tu pongas, cuando actualizas
el sistema hace una comprobación a ver si el archivo se ha modificado y si es
así te pregunta que quieres hacer.

 Eso creía yo,  pero mi hipótesis ahora es que  eso sólo lo hace
 con los  archivos de  configuración. Pero como  de todas  formas no
 estoy seguro, casi que paso de echar más leña al fuego.


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Programar en Java con Debian

2000-09-18 Thread Xose Manoel Ramos
Hola!

Estoy siguiendo un curso de Java y tenía ganas de hacer prácticas en
el ordenador de casa. Y por supuesto, usando mi bien amado Linux y el
VI.

Pero nada, no tengo nada claro que paquetes instalar. Como me tengo
que bajar casi todo por Internet (de non-free) casi me gustaría que
me recomendaseis que paquetes hacen falta, antes de gastar pelas en
traer cosas inútiles.

Sobre todo no entiendo que hacer con... el jdk, el kaffe y el jdk de
IBM ¿cual usar? ¿me hace falta el jikes? ¿el gjc? ¿y las tropecientas
librerías?

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Driver-ltmodem

2000-09-18 Thread Josean
Hola a todos:
Tengo la última versión de Debian2.2 Potato y el driver que antes me servía
para viejos núcleos, no me sirve para la 2.2.17 que tiene la Potato. ¿Sabe
alguien si puede existir ya algún driver para mi pobrecito gúinmodem en
algún lado? (Lucent)
Muchas gracias.



Evolution.

2000-09-18 Thread Jack O'Neal
Holas!!

He instalado evolution y and trabajando con el la verdad es q rula bien.

Pero tengo una pregunta hay alguna forma de hacer q recuerde los pass
the las cuentas???

BYez!!!



Re: Programar en Java con Debian

2000-09-18 Thread Luis Clausell
Yep Xose!

El Mon, 18 de Sep de 2000 a las 09:11 PM, Xose Manoel Ramos escribió:

 Estoy siguiendo un curso de Java y tenía ganas de hacer prácticas en
 el ordenador de casa. Y por supuesto, usando mi bien amado Linux y el
 VI.

Yo estoy en ello también y utilizo el JDK 1.2.2 (21 Mb +-) que bajé desde
www.blackdown.com y el vim como editor.
El JDK incluye el JRE así que no te lo bajes (como hice yo)

Descomprimes en /usr/lib/jdk1.2.2 (por ejemplo).

Luego añadí en /etc/profile:

# JDK 1.2.2 (.tar)
export CLASSPATH=.:/usr/lib/jdk1.2.2/lib:/usr/lib/jdk1.2.2/jre/lib
export JAVA_COMPILER=javacomp
export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jdk1.2.2
export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jdk1.2.2/bin

Y a funcionar  :-)

Ahora me está pegando por los servlets para ejecutar aplicaciones desde un
servidor Apache+JServ (incluidos en Debian) sin que los clientes (navegadores)
tengan que realizar tarea alguna (se ejecuta en el servidor solamente).  Si te
interesa debes bajarte también el JSDK 2.1 (java.sun.com)

Animo!

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Re: Problema con el sonido

2000-09-18 Thread EasyTech Consulting
Holas!!!

Ya esta rulando gracias.

Otra pregunta hay algun boot disk para instalar debian con soporte
reiserfx???


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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Problema con el sonido


 On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 01:56:08PM -0400, EasyTech Consulting wrote:
  Holas!!
 
  Gracias creo q es por eso:
 
  me puedes explicar mejor lo de como an~adir usuarios a un grupo???
 
  audio:x:29:jairo,nector
 
  q es cada cosa???
 
 Como sabras el comando id te muestra tanto tu uid (identificación de
usuario),
 el gid(grupo actual) y grupos a los que tienes accesos.

 Puedes ver con vdir al grupo que pertenece cada archivo

 usuario_grupo_resto root audio /dev/audio
 permisos usuario grupo archivo

 Para crear un nuevo grupo puedes utilizar el comando groupadd donde gid es
el
 número que identifica el grupo (ver página man).

 En el archivo group se describen los usuarios que pueden utilizar los
archivos
 de ese grupo (ver página man).

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¡Como un expediente X!

2000-09-18 Thread Manuel Jerez Cárdenes



Hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED], soy usuario de Debian y por mucho 
tiempo. Se me ha presentado un problema curioso que os relato. Tengo instalada 
la distribución Slink de Debian, con el entorno gráfico de KDE. Ayer estaba 
trabajando como uno de tantos días con linux y de pronto se fue la luz. 
Desconecté el ordenador y cuando volvió la luz quise seguir trabajando. La 
sorpresa fue que al intentar entrar como usuario al entorno gráfico me muestra 
el escritorio de KDE, está 10 segundos (los he contado) y a continuación me echa 
fuera de las X. El mensaje que parece en pantalla es que hay problemas con los 
pixmap¿? y que no hay espacio en el disco. Si intento entrar denuevo me ocurre 
lo mismo. Eso no es todo. La partición que tengo con linux es de 4 Gb. Antes de 
irse la luz tenía ocupados 1,3 Gb (por tanto libre me quedaban 2,7Gb). Sin 
embargo después del corte de luz me dice que no tiene espacio 
libre.

Mis preguntasson:
¿dónde están los 2,7 Gb que se supone que me quedan 
en el disco duro?.
¿puede ser ésta la causa de que no me funcione el 
entorno X?

Saludos y gracias por adelantado.

¡¡ Linux 
forever 
!


Atualização dos boot-floppies em Português para a Potato r-1

2000-09-18 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Já esta tudo pronto para a geração dos boot-floppies da Potato r-1 
em Português. Mais uma vez contamos com a ajuda do Rafael Laboissiere 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] que enviou um patch com dezenas de correções 
ortográficas e traduções da versão anterior do pt.po. 

A Potato r-1 está para ser lançada por volta do dia 25/09 e espero que 
eles não mexam mais nas traduções até lá! :-)

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Runlevel estranho

2000-09-18 Thread André Luís Lopes
Oi pessoal

   Instalei e estou usando o Potato . Já fiz os upgrades pelo apt-get
(apt-get update e apt-get upgrade) direto dos sites oficiais listados
como padrão no sources.list . Depois da instalação, o sistema inciava no
runlevel 2. Fiz um teste e mudei no /etc/inittab para iniciar no
runlevel 5 (gráfico) e funcionou correto . Agora , quando mudo no
/etc/inittab para iniciar o sistema no runlevel 3 (o que eu quero) e
rebooto a máquina , continua iniciando em modo gráfico (entrando pelo
XDM).

  O Debian é diferente dos outros Linux nesse sentido ? O runlevel 5 não
é o modo gráfico ? O estranho é que entrou no modo gráfico quando deixei
no runlevel 5 , portanto , acho que o 5 é mesmo o gráfico .

  Alguém se habilita a me ajudar nessa ?


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Re: Pagina Debian

2000-09-18 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
 como vcs sabem, estou comecando com debian, e me interessei muito pela 
 montagem da pagina-mirror do debian, estou disposto a colaborar, eu ano 
 sou muito bom com web design, mas com web programming to dentro =)

Além de ser bom, só pode usar ferramentas GNU para fazer o site
(vi e emacs :-)

[]'s
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Re: [debian-br] Atualização dos boot-floppies em Port uguês para a Potato r-1

2000-09-18 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Estarei apenas esperando esse lancamento para queimar os primeiros CDs
da Debian em Portugues!!
Quoting Gleydson Mazioli da Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Já esta tudo pronto para a geração dos boot-floppies da Potato r-1 
 em Português. Mais uma vez contamos com a ajuda do Rafael Laboissiere 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] que enviou um patch com dezenas de correções 
 ortográficas e traduções da versão anterior do pt.po. 
 
 A Potato r-1 está para ser lançada por volta do dia 25/09 e espero que 
 eles não mexam mais nas traduções até lá! :-)
 
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Re: Recommended Partitioning

2000-09-18 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya rob...

the simple ones firstassumming you'd be using win2k and autocad...
i'd try something like 8G-10G for win2k. as the first
partition  /dev/hda1  aka c:

rest is up to linuxetc and if yu think you might want to 
boot debian and redhat and mandrake or something else
each needs about 2G-3G of space...

for my silly reasons...i usually do:
( c: )  2Gb if any WinXX stuff
/   64M
/tmp128M
/var256M  or 512M for big(ger) web/email servers
/usr2Gb   and/or move /usr/local to /home/local
/home   rest of disk  - or about 1G of user space
swapswap space is 2x physical memory...

i tend to only backup /home and /etc.rest is already on cdrom
except if you might want to backup ( tsk tsk ) peoples unread emails
in /var/spool/mail. and if you want webstats...put um in
/home/httpd/logs or some user defined placenot system

to me...there is no reason to separate /boot and /  since both
is needed to boot...and also to lilo for dual(n) booting 
if redhat crashes while / and /boot is mounted from the
other partitions... you lose both partitions...or at least
the time for e2fsck / and /bootinstead of just one
( assuming /boot is smallits nothing to worry about
( in either case

c ya
alvin

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Rob wrote:

 Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific
 partitioning scheme?
 
 Like if im willing to allocate 20 gigs.  I figured id just do 128 for /swap,
 and the rest to /, but ive had friends tell me they do other partitions like
 /boot, /user, and /home.  What do you guys recommend ?
 
 Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d
 rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO? I've
 heard something about /mbr which I dont understand.
 
 Will someone clarify this stuff for me? Thanks!
 
 
 
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Re: Howto make exim not listen on port inet 25

2000-09-18 Thread Brad
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 05:44:36PM +0100, Terry Boon wrote:
 
  PS: Is there any inetd replacement which can listen selectively on the
  various interfaces?  Maybe this could be a solution for having both exim
  and leafnode not listening on the inet ports for home users, what do you
  think??? 
 
 There is tcpserver, which I think does this.
 
[SNIP]
 
 (You actually specify the IP address at which you want to listen
 rather than the interface name, but in the scenario you describe I
 think that this should suffice.)

xinetd has a bind option that does the same thing. I think one of the
others (rlinetd or g2s) has a similar feature as well, but i don't
recall.

Why don't any of these tools allow an interface name, e.g. eth0?


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Re: cleanly migrating from ide install to scsi system

2000-09-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 07:15:13PM -0500, William Jensen wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 As some of you know I'm converting to a SCSI system this week when my hardware
 arrives.  I've started giving a thought to what I need to backup, save, or
 generally have available to me offline so I can get my system back up and
 running in quick order.  Then it occured to me it might be possible to avoid
 a reinstall completly and just ghost from the ide over to the scsi.  Is it
 possible to:
 
 1. boot the installation floppy
 2. launch a shell
 3. bit by bit copy everything from the ide drive over to the scsi
 3. go into the scsi drive and mod lilo to point to it
 4. install onto the mbr
 5. reboot
 
 Is that possible?  Or would I be better off just going to a new install?

yes, that is how i upgraded a disk once, i used cpio and find.  worked
quite nicely.

the only part you might have troubles with is getting lilo installed
right, so have a boot floppy around just in case.  just boot it with
root=/dev/sda1 and then lilo will install right for sure.  

and most importantly:

don't forget to edit /etc/fstab !!

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Re: rsync trouble

2000-09-18 Thread Nate Amsden
Swoop wrote:
 
 J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
 
  On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 20:33:56 +0200, Swoop wrote:
   I'm using rsync to make a mirror of Debian - for a long time it had worked
   very well, but suddenly this error appears:
  
   Resource temporarily unavailable
 
   Does anyone have a clue why this is happing ?
 
  Your system is running out of some of its resources (e.g. memory,
  processes/threads). You could try running strace -f -o /tmp/strace.log on
  the rsync command and studying the log file this generates.
 
 I can'f find out which resources it run's out of. Here is something from
 the
 log file, but it aren't telling me much:
 
 avalon:~# strace -f -o /tmp/strace.log rsync  rsync.txt
 Process 5362 attached
 Process 5361 suspended
 .
 .
 .
 Process 5392 attached
 Process 5391 suspended
 sys_fork: tcb table full
 /usr/local/bin/rsync: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable

looks to me like it cannot spawn anymore processes. if you can run 'top'
in another window/terminal while you run this to see how many processes
are going on the machine. for reference a typical machine will have
anywhere from 50-80 processes.

nate

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Problem installing latest version of Debian.

2000-09-18 Thread The Propagandist
Okay, this is my first (and probably not last) cry for help.  I just 
intalled the latest stable version of Debian (2.2, from CD) and 
everything seemed to be going so I rebooted (from a floppy) and went to 
the bathroom.

When I came back:
 modprobe: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file 
/lib/module/2.2.17/modules.dep
(No such file or folder) was scrolling across the screen.  I decided 
to leave it alone for a while.  Twenty minutes later it was still 
merrily spewing out error messages (with the occasional VM: 
do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... thrown in for good measure). 
 I removed the disk, powered down and decided to boot from the hard 
drive.  Same thing.  It's been cheerfully looking for (and failing to 
find) the same file for the past fifteen minutes.  I tried escape, 
enter, ^d, ^x, ^c, ^q and every other key combination I could think of. 
 Yelling at it didn't seem to help either.

The system is an old 486sx w/8 megs RAM, a 239 meg HD, a double speed 
CDrom, SB compatible soundcard and 14.4 modem.

What's going on and how do I fix it?

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Re: Which Netscape to use? / Thanks

2000-09-18 Thread Holger Rauch
Hi!

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Erik van der Meulen wrote:

 Thanks a lot! 475 got most favourable votes. It installs well (after I
 realised that the tar file is no longer required ;-)) and seems to
 perform stable.

This depends to a large extent on what pages you want to view. In case
they contain Java applets, forget all about stability in Netscape. I have
not yet found a recent Java plugin for Linux that behaves stable. Also, I
heard that Netscape tends to crash on certain JavaScript constructs.

Greetings,

Holger



Re: 3com 3c509 and the mouse

2000-09-18 Thread Rino Mardo
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 12:05:25PM +0200 or thereabouts, Atila Nemet wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I have just installed debian 2.2 and I have a few problems :o)
 First, my mouse does not work. I can not start the X because it
 reports that there is no mouse. In consol mode there is also no mouse.
 Seems to me (a newbee) like the operating system does not even know
 that there is a mouse around. What is the procedure of installing a
 mouse?

check that you have /dev/mouse

2.2 seems not to create it for some reason and if you install X during the 2.2
installation it always defaults to /dev/mouse

if your mouse is a PS/2 type then just link /dev/psaux to /dev/mouse
if your mouse is a serial one on COM1: or COM2: then just link /dev/ttyS0 to
/dev/mouse or /dev/ttyS1 to /dev/mouse respectively

how to link?  as root do ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse (without the quotes)

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Re: Printing--what am I missing?

2000-09-18 Thread Vee-Eye
Sie schrieben:
 
 And, like I said, I can print plain text files fine with lpr... also I
 noticed that I can print in Abiword (but it's not suitable for me
 because of the other problems I mentioned).  So I don't know what's
 stopping me from being able to print in gv and kword.
 
You are able to print text files with lpr and you can't print
Postscript-files that way?
What's the output of lpr -V -V your-file.ps?

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Re: disc partition plan for new install

2000-09-18 Thread Rino Mardo
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 03:50:25PM + or thereabouts, Gary Turner wrote:
 ultimate functionality and safety.  Until software gets even more out
 of hand, I am memory and HD rich.
 
 The system will consist of:
 PII 350 mHz, Spacewalker HOT 661, Award BIOS
 192 meg ram
 8 gig HD (primary master)
 13 gig HD (primary slave)
 1.44meg floppy
 CD rom (eide secondary master--non bootable)
 18 gig scsi (may be moved to new winbox)

/boot - 50MB
/ - 256MB
/usr - 2GB 
/swap - 2xRAM

and the rest you can setup /home, /www, /pr0n, whatever you like ;-)

for /usr i'm not sure how much it can grow but from my own setup (development,
router, mail, X) it doesn't go beyond 2GB


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Re: Debian Menu with Sawfish (Helix)

2000-09-18 Thread Rino Mardo
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 06:09:22PM +0200 or thereabouts, Kai Weber wrote:
 This is exactly the displayed menu. Shouldn't it be something dynamicly
 loaded code? I will ask in the sawfish mailinglist, too. But could
 someone inform me, whether his sawfish like packaged from Helix displays
 the Debian Menu?

mine does


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ISDN Login

2000-09-18 Thread Sven-Eric Jannasch
Where i have to store the ID and Password for a ISDN Dialup-Connection on
Debian Potato?

Sven-Eric Jannasch




any know NAT/VPN out there?

2000-09-18 Thread will trillich
i'm trying to get NAT/VPN going from debian to debian
thru the internet, via tunnelv.

any gurus out there? (ethertap? netlink? what the...?)



making install diskette for ftp

2000-09-18 Thread adam.edgar
Ive run into a problem upgrading from slink to potato because of my own
stupidity. I had Slink running fine but decided to rearrange my
installation while upgrading (remove fat partition...). Well I forgot that
the Slink CD I have does not have the drivers for an epic100 network card.
So I need to make a diskette that will allow me to boot, connect to the
network (dhcp) and to start my install via ftp. How do I go about doing
this, or how can I use my old cd to get this done?  (without reinstalling
potato, new kernel and then upgrading). 

Thanks,
Adam S Edgar
Roll Tide Roll



Re: making install diskette for ftp

2000-09-18 Thread Rino Mardo
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 02:16:17AM -0500 or thereabouts, adam.edgar wrote:
 Ive run into a problem upgrading from slink to potato because of my own
 stupidity. I had Slink running fine but decided to rearrange my
 installation while upgrading (remove fat partition...). Well I forgot that
 the Slink CD I have does not have the drivers for an epic100 network card.
 So I need to make a diskette that will allow me to boot, connect to the
 network (dhcp) and to start my install via ftp. How do I go about doing
 this, or how can I use my old cd to get this done?  (without reinstalling
 potato, new kernel and then upgrading). 

use the two diskettes for potato. u can install via ftp, http, nfs, cdrom,
mounted partition

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Re: disc partition plan for new install

2000-09-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 10:46:11AM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 03:50:25PM + or thereabouts, Gary Turner wrote:
  ultimate functionality and safety.  Until software gets even more out
  of hand, I am memory and HD rich.
  
  The system will consist of:
  PII 350 mHz, Spacewalker HOT 661, Award BIOS
  192 meg ram
  8 gig HD (primary master)
  13 gig HD (primary slave)
  1.44meg floppy
  CD rom (eide secondary master--non bootable)
  18 gig scsi (may be moved to new winbox)
 
 /boot - 50MB
 / - 256MB
 /usr - 2GB 
 /swap - 2xRAM

/var at least 1GB (for /var/cache/apt)
/tmp at least 50MB to 100MB

and ditch /boot you don't need it and its more trouble then its worth,
just make sure your root partition is first on the disk and you will
avoid any silly BIOS crap.  

also / really need only be 64MB when you split off /usr /var /tmp and
/home

 
 and the rest you can setup /home, /www, /pr0n, whatever you like ;-)
 
 for /usr i'm not sure how much it can grow but from my own setup (development,
 router, mail, X) it doesn't go beyond 2GB

it could but it would take alot of packages, on one of my particularly
loaded (bloated :)) boxes i have 1.3GB in /usr (with /usr/local split off) 

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Re: disc partition plan for new install

2000-09-18 Thread Rino Mardo
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 11:54:13PM -0800 or thereabouts, Ethan Benson wrote:
  /boot - 50MB
  / - 256MB
  /usr - 2GB 
  /swap - 2xRAM
 
 /var at least 1GB (for /var/cache/apt)
 /tmp at least 50MB to 100MB
 
 and ditch /boot you don't need it and its more trouble then its worth,
 just make sure your root partition is first on the disk and you will
 avoid any silly BIOS crap.  

yes you can do away without /boot. i'm just being generous here.  in fact, /
can be 64MB only or even 50MB if my memory serves me right

  router, mail, X) it doesn't go beyond 2GB
 
 it could but it would take alot of packages, on one of my particularly
 loaded (bloated :)) boxes i have 1.3GB in /usr (with /usr/local split off) 

the thing one should really watch out for is /var since on a particularly busy
box it could get really big (shows you my box is idle still :) )

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Re: apt-move and helix

2000-09-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello World,
 
 I like to keep a partial mirror and I use apt-move (woody) to good effect.
 
 Now I'd like to mirror helixcode as well.  But I can't figure out a way to
 arrange things so that apt-move will handle it gracefully.  Has anyone got
 this working?  
 
 At the moment I am keeping my helixcode files under
 .../debian/projects/helix but there must be a better way.

As of potato, apt-move can't handle additional sites beyond non-US :-(
Don't know what's going on in the woody version.
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Re: disc partition plan for new install

2000-09-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 12:14:39PM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
 
 yes you can do away without /boot. i'm just being generous here.  in fact, /
 can be 64MB only or even 50MB if my memory serves me right

even on my most bloated install / is only taking up 19MB

as for /boot there was just a mention on -devel on how seperate /boot
screws up grub.  (the ranting over there on just how much grub rocks
has convinced me to try it whenever i happen to feel like rebooting my
intel box) 

 the thing one should really watch out for is /var since on a particularly busy
 box it could get really big (shows you my box is idle still :) )

quite true, but workstations generally don't have busy logs, unless
your also using it as a server which is not really the best of ideas.  

if i have the space i usually give /var about 2GB, no less then that
on a server.  

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Perl @INC - include NFS mounted repository

2000-09-18 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi,

I'd like to include a NFS mounted repository (actually a very
comprehensive Debian installation) into the Module Search Path
of Perl.

Boundary conditions:

 * transparent for the users

 * Modules that are also locally available should not be loaded
   by NFS.

Does anyone know how to manage this?

Thanks, Thomas




Re: Recommended Partitioning

2000-09-18 Thread John L . Fjellstad
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 08:32:48PM -0400, Rob wrote:
 Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific
 partitioning scheme?

I would do the following:

/boot   /dev/hda1 - primary  10 MB
win2k   /dev/hda2 - primary 1.5 GB

/   2.0 GB (for growth)
/var1.0 GB (or 2.0) for debian packages + spare space (you can make it 
smaller)
/usr/local  1.0 GB (depends on how many custom packages/.tar.gz you expect to 
install)
symlink /opt to /usr/local
/swap 128 MB

/home and the win2k data partition, share whatever you have left (i.e 50% to 
win2k and 50% to debian, or whatever).
 
 Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d
 rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO? I've
 heard something about /mbr which I dont understand.

I think there is an HOWTO for it. WinNT+Linux HOWTO I think. Check your
lists of HOWTO (I think it's one of the mini HOWTOs).

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Re: F2 key programming

2000-09-18 Thread Thomas Guettler
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 09:43:46PM +0100, ivan wrote:
 I'd like to be able to press the F2 key when in X-windows  xterm instead of
 entering
  | more  (par exemple). What is the easiest  way of achieving this? I've
 tried various
 things like editing /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm to no avail.
 Any help much appreciated. Ivan

Have a look at the readline documentation. I think it is possible.
Please mail me your solution. I am interested in it, too.


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Re: disc partition plan for new install

2000-09-18 Thread John L . Fjellstad
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 10:46:11AM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
 
 /swap - 2xRAM

I don't think the 'rule' of swap being 2xRAM is necessary anymore.
I have 256 MB RAM, and 133 MB swap, and hardly use the swap at all 
(currently using about 712 KB of swap). My system can have up to
1 GB of RAM.  I hardly think with that much physical memory, that
2 GB swap disk will be necessary.

Even with 64MB RAM, and if you're not doing heavy development, 128 MB
swap is probably overkill.

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Re: Checking md5sums

2000-09-18 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Michael S. Fischer wrote:

 Can someone please tell me how to use the Debian packaging tools to
 scan a system for changed files based on the md5sums contained in the
 .debs?

I've used a simple for bash, like this:

for F in `ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*md5sums`; do md5sum -c $F; done

this work for all packages that have a md5sums file in info directory.

BTW, is there a official repository for md5sum files? I asking because
if I get cracked, how can I trust the md5sum files from my machine? 

I think it would be good if debian site has a page/link so that we can
dnld all md5sum files from a trusted source and check against our files.

[]s,
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Re: Perl @INC - include NFS mounted repository

2000-09-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 11:26:02AM +0200, Thomas Gebhardt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to include a NFS mounted repository (actually a very
 comprehensive Debian installation) into the Module Search Path
 of Perl.
 
 Boundary conditions:
 
  * transparent for the users
 
  * Modules that are also locally available should not be loaded
by NFS.
 
 Does anyone know how to manage this?

If it's not in the default install, then any perl script can add to the
search path with use lib path. 

I'm not sure if you can modify an existing install. Recompile?

Mike

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Re: Checking md5sums

2000-09-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 08:18:39AM -0300, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Michael S. Fischer wrote:
 
  Can someone please tell me how to use the Debian packaging tools to
  scan a system for changed files based on the md5sums contained in the
  .debs?
 
 I've used a simple for bash, like this:
 
 for F in `ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*md5sums`; do md5sum -c $F; done

debsums is a simpler then that ;-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ debsums yaboot
usr/sbin/ybin  OK
usr/sbin/ofpath OK
usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot OK
usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot OK
[...]

or omit the package name and it verifies all packages. (that have
md5sums)

 this work for all packages that have a md5sums file in info directory.

this is a problem since lots don't

 BTW, is there a official repository for md5sum files? I asking because
 if I get cracked, how can I trust the md5sum files from my machine? 

if you get cracked you cant trust anything even md5sum or the kernel
or anything.  

 I think it would be good if debian site has a page/link so that we can
 dnld all md5sum files from a trusted source and check against our files.

what i think would be cool is if dpkg had a tripwire function built
in, so when you install new packages or upgrade at the end you could
enter a GPG passphrase and have the md5s signed.  (not foolproof i
know but no less then tripwire or aide) even better use something like
sha1 or ripmd160 (something like that).  OpenBSD ports come with all 3
hashs.  

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Re: can anyone explain why ??

2000-09-18 Thread Simeon Simes
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 03:10:04PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote:
 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
 
  so i guess, the driver is not the best in this regard - or is it an inherent
  problem of atapi drives?
 
 its a problem of atapi drives mostly, if you have DMA turned on that can
 reduce cpu utilization some .. in the past it was not uncommon for an
 IDE drive to suck up 100% of the CPU when accessing w/o DMA..
  
 just tested cdparanoia on my system (all SCSI) rippin a cd from my 4x8x
 cdr takes between 3.5%-5.9% cpu(p3-800EB).

well on my celeron 450 all IDE system the user hovers around 10% and system is 
around 10%. so Its not taking all the CPU. I seems that taking in input fromt 
he CD drive limits other inputs to the system, in this case the ppp connection.
I mean I can push the cpu utilization up by just encoding a wav to mp3
and the ppp connection is fine. So would it be something in the way I/O
is being handled?


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Re: ISDN Login

2000-09-18 Thread Shaul Karl
 Where i have to store the ID and Password for a ISDN Dialup-Connection on
 Debian Potato?
 


Is it async PPP or sync PPP?
For sync PPP I believe but not sure that it takes a pointer from ipppd command 
line or from /etc/isdn/ipppd.ippp0 and uses either /etc/ppp/pp-secrets or 
/etc/ppp/chap-secrets.
For async PPP it uses /etc/chatscripts/{provider,what_ever_other_ISP} and 
perhaps also one of the 2 files mentioned above.

If you got sync PPP then do send me one or more of the following, because I 
have troubles setting them right:
1) The output of
isdnctrl list all
2) option file for ipppd (/etc/isdn/*ipppd*)
3) Moderated versions of pap-secrets and chap-secrets (/etc/ppp/*-secrets). 
Which one is being used?
4) Any other info that seems relevant.

Must I have the VJ compression module if I have the slhc module?

Thank you.

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yppasswd: can't see server

2000-09-18 Thread Nate Amsden
Kind of odd.

yesterday i setup a NIS/NFS server on Solaris7 x86 (inside vmware ontop
of debian). To test it i setup a Linux mandrake 7.1 distro since it has
built in NIS during the install(again on top of another machine in
vmware ontop of debian) it works fine.

i have a debian 2.2r0 based laptop. apt-get'd the nis package and
configured NIS.  i can login fine via NIS, i can mount the NFS exports,
but i cant run yppasswd it says rpc.yppasswdd is not running on the
server. the mandrake machine can run yppasswd just fine. so can the
solaris machine and yppasswdd *IS* running on the solaris box:

[Solaris v7 x86]
starbase% ps -ef | grep rpc
   aphro  1887  1882  0 04:42:56 pts/20:00 grep rpc
root   866   864  0 13:33:01 ?0:00 rpc.nisd_resolv -F -C 9
-p 1073741824 -t udp
root   852 1  0 13:32:59 ?0:00 /usr/sbin/rpcbind
root   881 1  0 13:33:06 ?0:00
/usr/lib/netsvc/yp/rpc.ypupdated
root   879 1  0 13:33:06 ?0:00
/usr/lib/netsvc/yp/rpc.yppasswdd -m

[Linux Mandrake 7.1]

sh-2.04$ yppasswd 
Changing NIS account information for jamal on starbase.
Please enter old password:
Changing NIS password for jamal on starbase.
Please enter new password:
The password must have both upper and lowercase letters, or non-letters.
Please enter new password:
The password must have both upper and lowercase letters, or non-letters.
Please enter new password:
Please retype new password:
 
The NIS password has been changed on starbase.  

[Debian 2.2r0]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ yppasswd
yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host

---

since it works in mandrake and in solaris i imagine this would be more a
debian issue. i looked at the docs and didn't see much on this issue.
any ideas? my next idea would be to compare the configs of the mandrake
and debian boxen. again, i can LOGIN fine using NIS on the debian box,
and mount the home directories and stuff _no problem_ but i can't use
any of the yp* commands yppasswd ypchfn etc.

TIA

nate

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Re: can anyone explain why ??

2000-09-18 Thread Nate Amsden
Simeon Simes wrote:
 
 On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 03:10:04PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote:
  Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
 
   so i guess, the driver is not the best in this regard - or is it an 
   inherent
   problem of atapi drives?
 
  its a problem of atapi drives mostly, if you have DMA turned on that can
  reduce cpu utilization some .. in the past it was not uncommon for an
  IDE drive to suck up 100% of the CPU when accessing w/o DMA..
 
  just tested cdparanoia on my system (all SCSI) rippin a cd from my 4x8x
  cdr takes between 3.5%-5.9% cpu(p3-800EB).
 
 well on my celeron 450 all IDE system the user hovers around 10% and system is
 around 10%. so Its not taking all the CPU. I seems that taking in input fromt
 he CD drive limits other inputs to the system, in this case the ppp 
 connection.
 I mean I can push the cpu utilization up by just encoding a wav to mp3
 and the ppp connection is fine. So would it be something in the way I/O
 is being handled?

quite possible, another user noted(not sure if it was this thread or
another) by sending data to cdparanoia in smaller packets with short
delays between them he was able to get it working fine. what kind of
modem do you have and what I/O and IRQ is it located at? also what kind
of IDE hd, what kind of controller etc..

i can't remember a time when i used an ide cdrom to rip CDDA at the same
time as being online with a modem in the same machine, but i have done
just that with my scsi CDROM with my internal Zoom V90 modem. never had
a problem. i have seen this complaint in the list at least 1 or 2 other
times tho so there may be a connection. maybe its a WDC hd ?

nate

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Re: MPI and parallel processing

2000-09-18 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 02:21:20PM +0200, Lukasz Walewski wrote:

 Has anyone any experiences with parallel programming under Debian?

Yes :-) .  There's a mailing list debian-beowulf@lists.debian.org about
this sort of thing (subscribe in the usual fashion) which will probably
be better able to answer questions on this topic.

 I've been using Message Passing Interface under SGI/Irix;
 the Intel clone of this library is MPIH.
 Is there a .deb version of it ?

There are two free MPI implementations I know about, called MPICH and LAM.
Both are packaged for Debian and are in Potato, along with a number of
libraries for them.  LAM is generally regarded as the faster of the two.

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RE: what is Helix-Gnome?

2000-09-18 Thread TODD WITTER
When I installed Helix, it asked what I wanted installed.  I chose 
not to install the games.  And it did just that.  

On 17 Sep 00, at 18:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Pollywog wrote:
 
  This Helix-Gnome thing is very nice, but I wish I could get rid of the games
  and stuff I don't use.  I will have to suggest this to the developers.
 
 Uhh.. So why not just purge the games along with task-helix-gnome?
 Problem solved.
 
 
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Urgent LaTex question

2000-09-18 Thread Loren Hoffman

Hi,

I've got a quick LaTex question.  Is there a way to make LaTex _not_
justify the text on the right?  The only thing I can think of is line
breaks after each line.

It's for a paper which I need to submit tomorrow morning, with a guideline
that the text be only left-justified.  If you could help me out today, I'd
be very grateful.

Thanks!

Loren



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apt-get question

2000-09-18 Thread Frank Grimm
Hello,

Since the potato release i am using apt-get instead of dpkg, but 
some apt-get isn't able to work with some .deps (e.g. aalib, gimp) is
exists with the error message:

$ apt-get install aalib1

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package aalib1 has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and 
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents 
of sources.list
E: Package aalib1 has no installation candidate

But when I use apt-cache showpkg aalib1, aalib1 seams to be cached.

And dpkg -i ...aalib1... works fine.

Any hints?
Thanks,
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Re: sunrpc

2000-09-18 Thread David Wright
Quoting Joachim Trinkwitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   I removed *portmap from /etc/rc2.d and I am still having sunrpc start up
   on boot. I want to remove sunrpc from my system, but am having
   trouble. Can anyone explain how sunrpc starts and how to stop it from
   starting?
 
 Do you have compiled NFS into your kernel , maybe as a module? 'grep
 NFS /boot/config-your.kernel.version' gives you the answer. If yes,
 you have to recompile your kernel (or use modconf to disable sunrpc).

Eh? To stop sunrpc I just typed:

/etc/init.d/portmap stop
mv -i /etc/init.d/portmap /etc/init.d/portmap-hidden

Perhaps there's a typo in /etc/rc2.d because my portmap was started
from /etc/rcS.d/S41portmap.

But I think they may be getting caught out by portmap's having a
second chance to start. If there's an nfs in /etc/fstab, then
/etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh will start it.

Cheers,

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Re: Urgent LaTex question

2000-09-18 Thread Thomas Halahan

\raggedright

On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Loren Hoffman wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've got a quick LaTex question.  Is there a way to make LaTex _not_
 justify the text on the right?  The only thing I can think of is line
 breaks after each line.
 
 It's for a paper which I need to submit tomorrow morning, with a guideline
 that the text be only left-justified.  If you could help me out today, I'd
 be very grateful.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Loren
 
 
 
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Re: Urgent LaTex question

2000-09-18 Thread Vee-Eye
 I've got a quick LaTex question.  Is there a way to make LaTex _not_
 justify the text on the right?  The only thing I can think of is line
 breaks after each line.
 
 It's for a paper which I need to submit tomorrow morning, with a guideline
 that the text be only left-justified.  If you could help me out today, I'd
 be very grateful.
 
Quick shot: \raggedright

or \begin{flushleft} ... \end{flushleft}

Optionally you can delimit lines with \\, but anyway there will be no
separation of words at the end of a line.

HTH

MH

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touch and nfs

2000-09-18 Thread Jeff Green
Load on a group of our servers has forced a change of structure to a
cluster of machines with various drives nfs mounted. This works very
well for most applications however a number of scripts use touch which
appears to fail on files nfs mounted from other machines in the cluster,
when run by the same user on the machine with the disk in question
physically present touch works fine. The users are common to all the
machines, maintained by nis.
Any way to get touch working or is there a suitable replacement or is it
nfs that is broken?

Jeff Green



SOLVED: Debian Menu with Sawfish (Helix)

2000-09-18 Thread Kai Weber
+ Rino Mardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  This is exactly the displayed menu. Shouldn't it be something dynamicly
  loaded code? I will ask in the sawfish mailinglist, too. But could
  someone inform me, whether his sawfish like packaged from Helix displays
  the Debian Menu?
 
 mine does

I solved the problem. I read all available documentation and found the
solution in the FAQ. I have installed some custom modules and start them
in my .sawfishrc. This overrides the default-settings for some
windowmanagers. So I put (require 'sawfish-defaults) into the rc-file
and now it works.

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RE: OL400

2000-09-18 Thread Max . Hyre
   Dear Mr. Kopishke:

   You asked:

 Hi, I have a Okidata 0l400 LED printer, what filter should I use in
 magicfilter?

   I can't get to my OL400 machine right now, so this is from memory,
but if you check your user's manual, you'll see that the OL400 emulates
an HP (Laserjet, LJ II+, maybe?).  In my case, the printer has only 1 MB
RAM, so I tell magicfilter to use the ``low memory'' option.  All this
adds up to the filter named something like ``*lj2plo*''.

   Sorry I'm so hazy---I just installed magicfilter and it worked---
haven't looked at it in over a year.  If this isn't enough, send me
mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]:  I'll get that at home and can
look up the exact answer then.

   Hope this helps.


Best wishes,

Max Hyre



Re: Urgent LaTex question

2000-09-18 Thread Paul Huygen
Loren Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've got a quick LaTex question. Is there a way to make LaTex _not_
 justify the text on the right?[..]
 It's for a paper which I need to submit tomorrow morning, [..]

\begin{flushleft}
blabla
bloebloe
etc.
\end{flushleft}

works.
Probably there are better ways, but at least this will help you before
your deadline.

Paul Huygen



non-us potato-proposed-updates: no Packages?

2000-09-18 Thread Hein Roehrig
http://non-us.debian.org/dists/potato-proposed-updates/ does not 
contain a Packages file, therefore it is not apt-get-able. This is 
in contrast to 
http://http.us.debian.org/dists/potato-proposed-updates/ which makes 
me think that something is wrong here!?

-Hein




POP - IMAP w/ Maildirs?

2000-09-18 Thread Keith G. Murphy
I have an application in mind where I download some folks' POP3 mail
from their ISPs to our local server, then present their E-mail (they're
Win95 users on our local network) using an IMAP server.

So far I can do everything very simply using fetchmail + procmail -d +
UW IMAP.

However, I'd like to go to a solution, probably using maildirs, that
does not involve messages in their home directories; in fact, maybe not
requiring them to have accounts on our Linux server at all.

I've been digging into the procmail documentation, and trying to figure
out how to use maildirs in UW IMAP, but I've got the feeling someone out
there has already done this.

Any simple methods for this?

TIA.



Re: finding a tarball on a fat-less fat partition--disk editor?

2000-09-18 Thread dochawk
chris chryed,

 On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 02:14:56PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  yikes, I can do without the gory details :)  does this mean that once I 
  find a block of a tar, I can start extracting, even if it wasn't the 
  middle?

 You want to find the first block of the tar.  If you will indulge a bit
 of ASCII art, a tar looks like this:

 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 | H | F | F | H | F | F | F | H | F | F | F | F | H | F | H | F |
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

 where H is a header and F is the file's data.  Each block as I said is
 512 bytes.  The header contains information like how many bytes come in
 the file data.  If you miss the first header you miss the first file.

As usual, there's only one important file (my unfiled tax return :)  
Even if I miss most of them, Im ok (though Id really like to get them 
all back, of course . . .)


  Or should I just start using dd if=/dev/hda7 skip=1| tar -tvf - and 
  incrementing the skip until I hit something (I think these two files 
  would be the only ones ever to be created on that partition).

 This could work if you had a recently defragmented partition or a very
 small tar file.  In any other case, I'm going to guess that you're SOL
 and going to give up.  I tried to recover data from a screwed up FAT
 partition once and ended up running mke2fs on it after a day.  The
 problem with dd on a normal filesystem is that a file can have multiple
 other files in between its start and finish.

I believe that these are the only two files ever written to the disk, 
and I am certain that there has been nothing written after it.  So I'm 
assuming that they're contiguous . . .

  thanks

 I hope it helps,


me too :) thanks, I'll try again tomorrow night . . .


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Re: finding a tarball on a fat-less fat partition--disk editor? (fwd)

2000-09-18 Thread dochawk
  yikes, I can do without the gory details :)  does this mean that once I 
  find a block of a tar, I can start extracting, even if it wasn't the 
  middle?

 you mean even if it wasn't the START?, right?
 the answer is yes. just verified this.

yes.  Thanks.

  And now that I think of it, someone mentioned that there are bad disk 
  editors available for linux.

 i said, they suck, not that they are bad. this means, that they are not
 that simple to use as diskedit for dos and lack the one or other
 interesting feature - at least the last time i looked out half a year ago. 
 ;-)

For one-use once, i'll put up with almost anything.  I assumee I only 
need to browse a couple of k, anyway.  But what are they called?  
grepping /var/lib/dpkg/available for disk.*edit doesn't yield anything.


  I just realized that I can't use the same 
  method I sed on an ext2 on a fat (unless it grew inodes while I wasn't 
  looking :)
 ??

there's a how-to that explains brute-force inode searches on ext2 
partitions.  I recovered some important files from another  machine this 
way a few weeks ago.

thanks

rick

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LILO 21.5-1 beta, LILO 21.4.32

2000-09-18 Thread Colin R. R. Johnson
Hi,

I just upgraded to woody (apt-get dist-upgrade) which worked extremely
well except for lilo.

The lilo 21.4.32 package contains lilo 21.5-1 beta.

Further, when I run Lilo (I compiled a 2.4 kernel) I get the following:

LILO version 21.5-1 beta, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2999 John Coffman

Reading boot sector from /dev/hda
Merging with /boot/cboot.b
Fatal: First boot sector is version 20.0. Expecting version 21.5.

I downloaded the potato package and it has the same lilo version I then
downloaded the source for the package and compiled it.

The source package has version 21.4.32, and I compiled that and with
that version of LILO get:
Fatal: First boot sector is version 20.0. Expecting version 21.4

From what I can tell the problem is with the cboot.b file.

I've looked in the LILO documentation and can't figure out how to
resolve this problem.

I suspect it's something obvious and that I'm going to feel like hitting
myself when I find the solution.

Thanks,
Colin Johnson


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dselect questions

2000-09-18 Thread Cantoni, Mike
I am attempting to install Debian 2.2 on my Compaq laptop.  I installed the
following tasks: C++ Dev, C Dev, Debug, Devel Common, Dialup, Laptop, and X
Window System.  I was able to complete the installation, but am having
trouble adding additional packages.  I performed the installation using
official CD's.  I would like to add XEmacs and Netscape.  I have
re-installed many times trying to install the above packages and after the
installs finished, the X Window System would lock up.  I have the following
questions:

1)  Should overwrite the source list with a new list when selecting
(A)ccess?
2)  When installing the additional packages, should I hold the previously
installed packages so they are not updated?
3)  What procedure should I follow to add the packages?

Thanks for the help, I'm getting really frustrated!

Mike Cantoni



RE: Recommended Partitioning

2000-09-18 Thread Anderson, Tim TL33E
I have Win2K and Debian at home, (excuse: my day job is developing in MS
env. Yuch)
For my MS stuff I keep a 1.5G for system and programs, 250M for swap and a
1G FAT32 for files - NTFS is notoriously incompatible so I prefer FAT32 for
personal stuff.  Speed is only really an issue with loading apps anyhow.  I
also kept the Win98 that came in the box, and use Partition Magic and Boot
Magic with that.  Guests can use Win98 for surfing, stops them breaking
anything.  I have BootMagic pointing to my / Debian which is also where LILO
is loaded, ie not on the MBR.
HDA
MBR: BootMagic
Win98 (contains boot menu for 98 and 2000)  1G
/ 250MB
Linux swap 128M (should be 256 really I think)
Win2K 1.5G
Win2Kswap 250M

HDB
/usr 2G
/home 4G
userFAT32 1G
and some system backups.

Loads of space left over, (HDB=20G)  and is quite flexible, if I want to try
a new dist I keep the MBR and /home and everything works OK.

Tim Anderson

 Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific
 partitioning scheme?
 
 Like if im willing to allocate 20 gigs.  I figured id just do 128
for /swap,
 and the rest to /, but ive had friends tell me they do other
partitions like
 /boot, /user, and /home.  What do you guys recommend ?
 
 Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d
 rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO?
I've
 heard something about /mbr which I dont understand.
 
 Will someone clarify this stuff for me? Thanks!
 
 
 
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FW: dselect questions

2000-09-18 Thread Cantoni, Mike

 I am attempting to install Debian 2.2 on my Compaq laptop.  I installed
 the following tasks: C++ Dev, C Dev, Debug, Devel Common, Dialup, Laptop,
 and X Window System.  I was able to complete the installation, but am
 having trouble adding additional packages.  I performed the installation
 using official CD's.  I would like to add XEmacs and Netscape.  I have
 re-installed many times trying to install the above packages and after the
 installs finished, the X Window System would lock up.  I have the
 following questions:
 
 1)  Should overwrite the source list with a new list when selecting
 (A)ccess?
 2)  When installing the additional packages, should I hold the previously
 installed packages so they are not updated?
 3)  What procedure should I follow to add the packages?
 
 Thanks for the help, I'm getting really frustrated!
 
 Mike Cantoni
 



Re: Perl @INC - include NFS mounted repository

2000-09-18 Thread Erdmut Pfeifer
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 11:26:02AM +0200, Thomas Gebhardt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to include a NFS mounted repository (actually a very
 comprehensive Debian installation) into the Module Search Path
 of Perl.
 
 Boundary conditions:
 
  * transparent for the users
 
  * Modules that are also locally available should not be loaded
by NFS.

Hi,

there are several ways of achieving this, although none of them
is without drawbacks:

(1) you can setup the PERL5LIB environment variable (or PERLLIB
if you want it to apply for both Perl4 and Perl5) to contain
the appropriate search path for the Modules (a colon-separated
list of directories)
If you want local modules to be found first, just put the NFS
directory at the end of the path list.

This method has the disadvantage that you somehow have to make sure
that PERL5LIB gets set in the environment of the individual users.
This is basically a system administration task. You might consider
one of the following strategies:

* put PERL5LIB in the system-wide login-environment, so users do
  not have to set it themselves
* have users set it by themselves (error-prone)
* write a wrapper script around the call of the perl binary that
  sets the environment
(or whatever else you could think of...)


(2) you can modify the @INC array at the beginning of your perl
scripts. To have the NFS directory be found last you would
insert the following code snippet:

BEGIN { push @INC, /your-NFS-libpaths-here; }

(this gets executed before any use or require statements,
so the modified include path applies)

You probably want to include both the normal path (for Perl-only
modules) and the path for architecture-specific modules
(containing e.g. something like i686-linux), although
the latter is not always required (just try and see...)

This obviously has the disadvantage that all of your scripts have to
be modified, so depending on how much scripts you have and whether you
could edit them automatically, this approach might not be feasible.


There may be other ways that I'm not aware of, e.g. fiddling around
with symlinks in the ordinary perl lib-dir or changing the compiled-in
lib-path...(?); but as far as I know, this way its not possible to
achieve the kind of fall-through behaviour you need.
(if anyone knows how to do this, I'd like to know)

Good luck,
Erdmut


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Begone, vile emacs!

2000-09-18 Thread Jonathan Markevich
I figured that title would get your attention... :)

I discovered emacs is on my system, and I don't particularly want it there. 
I have no idea how it got there either, and it's probably taking up a
healthy amount of disk space.  Here's some interesting stats...

bash-2.03$ dpkg -S `which emacs`
dpkg: /usr/bin/emacs not found.

What package do I have to purge?  Is there some other obscure tool for
finding files in packages?  Who put it there?

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Problems with upgrading from 2.2.17-compact to 2.2.17

2000-09-18 Thread John Palmieri \(Quinticent\)
Hi everyone,

I just installed Debian using the compact kernel and FTP.  After
installing I tryed to apt-get kernel-image-2.2.17 and when I booted my
eth0 interface wouldn't come up(my tulip drivers get loaded fine and the
compact kernel works with my school network fine [dhcp]). The same
happened when I compiled my own custom kernel and used kpkg to install.
Also, I am trying to add the SBLive emu10k1 drivers and the Matrox
Marvel V4L drivers and I just get undefined symbol errors when I try to
insmod them.  They compile fine though.  If I can't get these working I
might have to switch back to some other distro which I don't want to do
because I love apt-get.

-John Palmieri



Re: Begone, vile emacs!

2000-09-18 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Jonathan Markevich wrote:

 I figured that title would get your attention... :)
 
 I discovered emacs is on my system, and I don't particularly want it there. 
 I have no idea how it got there either, and it's probably taking up a
 healthy amount of disk space.  Here's some interesting stats...
 
 bash-2.03$ dpkg -S `which emacs`
 dpkg: /usr/bin/emacs not found.
 
why not dpkg -l emacs ?

or better yet, dselect.


pete

ps- my sentiments exactly about emacs.  :)



Re: advanced power management and linux?

2000-09-18 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

Yep,

You're going to fry the fan. You don't need a resistor on it either, just
pull the connector off the PS Motherboard - pretty simple fix. Invert
the PS so the fan port is pointed up, this will allow convection to occure
and the hot air to escape the PS.  

I don't know how well it will run though, you're dealing with a switching 
power supply, not a traditional unit. If the PS does fry, I hope it doesn't
actually take out your mommy board, I have seeen them toast so much
equipment over the last couple of years, I will keep my fingers crossed 
for you.

Best of luck, regards
 

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Krzys Majewski wrote:
   Hm, the chopstick is starting to  smell bad, gotta let the fan run for
   a bit..
  
  the fan motor will probably burn out like this.  
 
 Hm, really? I don't think the motor is running; the P/S makes
 absolutely no sound at all. Still going strong. Do mean that
 the motor will burn out because it isn't running, but should be?
 In this case, can I replace the (hard-wired) fan with some
 component from Radio Shack (a resistor??) which fools the
 circuit into thinking that it's a fan? What sort of component
 would I need? The fan is 12V, 0.15A. 
 
  well you could always buy Apple's powerpc hardware, Steve Jobs
  apparently loathes fan noise and macs are rather quiet.  most of them
  run debian quite nicely too ;-)
  
  (the negative side to this is the rather high prices)
 
 There it is..
 
 -chris
 
 
 
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RE: dselect questions

2000-09-18 Thread somogyi lóránd

you should use apt-get:
apt-get install xemacs
and,
apt-get install netscape
or it's maybe:
apt-get install communicator

good luck.

p.s.:if you didn't scan the cd's
already, do it with apt-cdrom.

 I am attempting to install Debian 2.2 on my Compaq laptop.  I installed
 the following tasks: C++ Dev, C Dev, Debug, Devel Common, Dialup, Laptop,
 and X Window System.  I was able to complete the installation, but am
 having trouble adding additional packages.  I performed the installation
 using official CD's.  I would like to add XEmacs and Netscape.  I have
 re-installed many times trying to install the above packages and after the
 installs finished, the X Window System would lock up.  I have the
 following questions:

 1)  Should overwrite the source list with a new list when selecting
 (A)ccess?
 2)  When installing the additional packages, should I hold the previously
 installed packages so they are not updated?
 3)  What procedure should I follow to add the packages?

 Thanks for the help, I'm getting really frustrated!

 Mike Cantoni





Re: Begone, vile emacs!

2000-09-18 Thread Moritz Schulte
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 07:51:29AM -0400, Jonathan Markevich wrote:

 bash-2.03$ dpkg -S `which emacs`
 dpkg: /usr/bin/emacs not found.
 
 What package do I have to purge?

$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/emacs
dpkg: /usr/bin/emacs not found.
$ ls -l /usr/bin/emacs
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   23 Aug 19 20:50 /usr/bin/emacs
- /etc/alternatives/emacs*
$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/emacs
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 Aug 19 22:25
/etc/alternatives/emacs - /usr/bin/emacs20*
$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/emacs20
emacs20: /usr/bin/emacs20

 -moritz
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this beeping makes me sick

2000-09-18 Thread QBA
Hi,

I just want to turn off beeping in linux. It comes from the inner speaker
(not from my sound card and portable speakers) when I press arrow keys
in vi (it's just an example) and the cursor can't go any further.
How am I to do it?
Thanks for help,

QBA



Re: this beeping makes me sick

2000-09-18 Thread Andrei Ivanov
Unplug the speaker.
Andrei



all .deb md5sums

2000-09-18 Thread Jim Breton
Is there someplace on debian.org from which I can get a file or files
containing the md5sums of all the packages?  Not the packages' contents,
but the packages themselves.

I have some ISOs I got from another site (linuxiso.org) and I would like
to confirm the sums of all the packages before I use them for installs.

Please copy me on responses as I am currently not subscribed to
debian-user.  :)

Thanks.



Re: this beeping makes me sick

2000-09-18 Thread Timothy H. Keitt
Try adding 'bell-style none' to /etc/inputrc

T.

QBA wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I just want to turn off beeping in linux. It comes from the inner speaker
 (not from my sound card and portable speakers) when I press arrow keys
 in vi (it's just an example) and the cursor can't go any further.
 How am I to do it?
 Thanks for help,
 
 QBA
 
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Re: this beeping makes me sick

2000-09-18 Thread Peter Malewski
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 06:00:30PM +0200, QBA wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just want to turn off beeping in linux. It comes from the inner speaker
 (not from my sound card and portable speakers) when I press arrow keys
 in vi (it's just an example) and the cursor can't go any further.
 How am I to do it?
 Thanks for help,

xset -b 

...I forgot the exact parameter , i think it was xset -b 0, look at the man 
page. 

Peter 


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Re: Begone, vile emacs!

2000-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Jonathan Markevich writes:
 I discovered emacs is on my system, and I don't particularly want it
 there.

Emacs19 is standard priority (erroneously, IMHO).

 What package do I have to purge?

emacs19
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CIPE experts, anyone?

2000-09-18 Thread will trillich
having a bit-o-trouble getting CIPE compiled. (anybody have it running
for kernel 2.2.17? please?)

after following /usr/share/doc/cipe-source/README* ...

# dpkg -i cipe-2.2.17_1.3.0-2+2.2.17_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 27995 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace cipe-2.2.17 1.3.0-2+2.2.17 (using 
.../cipe-2.2.17_1.3.0-2+2.2.17_i386.deb) ...
CIPE is not configured yet, stopping.
Unpacking replacement cipe-2.2.17 ...
Setting up cipe-2.2.17 (1.3.0-2+2.2.17) ...
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/cipcb.o
CIPE is not configured yet, stopping.

# ./configure 
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) gcc -E
checking for texinfo... (cached) tex
checking for makeinfo... (cached) makeinfo
checking for kernel version... 2.2.17
checking for architecture... i386
checking for SMP... yes
checking for versioned modules... no
checking for assembler parts... bf-i386.o
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating 2.2.17-i386-SMP-cb/Makefile
creating 2.2.17-i386-SMP-cb/config.h
2.2.17-i386-SMP-cb/config.h is unchanged

# 

is CIPE configured or not? what'd i miss?



OT: no cdrom audio from sound card line out

2000-09-18 Thread Mark Schiltz
I think I have tried everything, maybe my sound card is not fully supported? I
have a motherboard with built-in soundpro (CMI8330). The sound is working with
the exception of the cd audio. I know the cd is working because I can use the
phone plug on the face of the cdrom.

Any Ideas?

 -- 
I'm here to paint but I've forgotten my brush...
You got beer?

Mark Schiltz



Re: Which Netscape to use? / Thanks

2000-09-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 18 Sep 2000, Holger Rauch wrote:
 Hi!
 
 On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Erik van der Meulen wrote:
 
  Thanks a lot! 475 got most favourable votes. It installs well (after I
  realised that the tar file is no longer required ;-)) and seems to
  perform stable.
 
 This depends to a large extent on what pages you want to view. In case
 they contain Java applets, forget all about stability in Netscape. I have
 not yet found a recent Java plugin for Linux that behaves stable. Also, I
 heard that Netscape tends to crash on certain JavaScript constructs.
 
 Greetings,
 
   Holger
 
 

I found this with the new Sainsbury store site, which was advertised
here with much fanfare; they said it worked with Netscape above 4.6, but
it doesn't.

Another bug is that if you exit Netscape with alt-q it often leaves the
lock file in place. I think it's OK if you exit from the menu but I'm
not sure. 

Anthony


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Re: Debian 2.2

2000-09-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 17 Sep 2000, Nate Amsden wrote:
 looks like bad cds to me, i'd get new ones from somewhere(not sure where
 to reccomend) see the debian homepage for who has them, or if you have a
 CD-R you can make your own. it seems since debian does not make their
 own cds(non commercial) quality can be questionable from vendor to
 vendor. ive had many bad debian cds in the past i don't think its
 uncommon.
 
 nate

I made the same point in an email to the original poster. At one time I
even got my CD drive replaced under warranty because I thought the
problem was there rather than in the disks.

Anthony


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Re: disc partition plan for new install

2000-09-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 18 Sep 2000, John L . Fjellstad wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 10:46:11AM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
  
  /swap - 2xRAM
 
 I don't think the 'rule' of swap being 2xRAM is necessary anymore.
 I have 256 MB RAM, and 133 MB swap, and hardly use the swap at all 
 (currently using about 712 KB of swap). My system can have up to
 1 GB of RAM.  I hardly think with that much physical memory, that
 2 GB swap disk will be necessary.
 
 Even with 64MB RAM, and if you're not doing heavy development, 128 MB
 swap is probably overkill.
 
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I have 64 Mb RAM and currently 49 Mb swap; this never gets more than
half full (unless Netscape goes mad, which it does sometimes).

Anthony


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Packages???

2000-09-18 Thread Christopher W. Aiken
I've installed RH, MD, SuSE, Caldera, FreeBSD, etc.
and now would like to install Debian 2.2  I know, I know,
but I like punishment :)

I'm kid of hesitant because of all the new nomenclature such 
as dselect dpkg, apt-get, etc.  I've been monitoring
this news list for a while, and I have to say this is a
great place for all kinds of great information.  Thanks...

A couple of things I don't quite understand.  I believe
that dselect is a front end for the dpkg command.
Is this correct?  

What is the difference between dpkg and apt-get??
Why would I want to use one over the other?

Can I use apt-get to install packages off of my Official
4 CD set or should I use dpkg?

I'm getting ready to set up a triple boot with
W98 (for wife and kids), FreeBSD 4.1 (for me), and Debian 2.2
(again for me).  I currently have a dual boot.  

Please be gentle with your responses.  We all gotta learn
somehow :)   Personal email responses are welcomed.

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Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.1



Re: Begone, vile emacs!

2000-09-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 07:51:29AM -0400, Jonathan Markevich wrote:

 bash-2.03$ dpkg -S `which emacs`
 dpkg: /usr/bin/emacs not found.
 
 What package do I have to purge?  Is there some other obscure tool for
 finding files in packages?  Who put it there?

My condolences on emacs. I agree wholeheartedly. 

/usr/bin/emacs is probably a symlink, which is why the dpkg -S doesn't
find it. You can resolve it to a file and try that path, or just look for an
installed copy:

dpkg -l | grep ^i | grep -i emacs

Mike

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include dirs

2000-09-18 Thread jereme
hi all,

I hope this question is directed to the correct group and not
too redundant.  I checked the list archives and the policy manual
before mailing this off.  What i would like is for someone to point me
towards a good source of information about what headers i need on my
system, where they should be, what should be in /usr/local/include,
how the kernel tree includes fit in the picture and anything else
related to the topic that i haven't asked, (because i don't know
enough to ask them yet:)  I have a rudminentary understand of
programming in C and the process of compilation and linking.  I
understand why i need headers, i am just not sure what my system
expects where.   I appreciate everyone time, thanks very much.

jereme

post: as i said, i am looking for general information but the specific
situation that prompted this note arose while running the configure
script that came with cipe-1.4.2  I got this error:
checking for kernel include tree... configure: error: no suitable
configured kernel include tree found

it seems to be a very clear error message, i just do not have the
knowledge of what should be where.

./configure --help shows --includedir=DIR  C header files in DIR
 [PREFIX/include] and PREFIX is /usr/local

thanks again



Installation help

2000-09-18 Thread Martin Scott Goldberg
Here's the deal - I have an abit bx62.0 motherboard with an abit hotrodd66
(dma66) adaptor plugged in to a pci slot.  I have a memorex 48x atapi
cdrom and a 40 gig HD plugged in through the hotrod.

The first problem is that the cd will not boot.  I have the same problem
with Freebsd and Beos cd's as well.  The bios does recognize the CDrom
though when I power on the computer.

The 2nd problem, is that when I copied the boot files on to the windows
desktop and went from there, when it comes time to set up space on a hard
drive, setup does not find my 40gig.  Again, I have the same problem with
FreeBsd as well.

Anyone have any solutions?


Thanks,

Marty



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