Re: algo parecido a una red ;)
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 07:14:35PM +0200, Fermín Manzanedo wrote: Cuando ejecuto esta línea, me devuelve esto: ipchains: Protocol not available ¿A qué puede deberse? A que no tienes soporte en el kernel para ipchains :(( te toca recompilar el kernel ... -- Saludos | Es inutil, no me hacen ni caso Javier Fafián Alvarez | -- Dios.
Ayuda rápida con Apache
Buenas a todos/as. Necesitaría que algún gurú de Apache me echara un cable rápidamente. En resultans que tengo un peoSite donde debo poner un aliases. Hasta aquí todo bien (y algo que por aquí, quien más quien menos sabe hacer), pero resulta que lo que realmente tengo es un dueto fatal, formado por Apache + Tomcat. Le estoy diciendo que cuando le digan www.los.com/en/Algo/digo/ se vaya a D:/Estoy/jarto/vino/ (si si... para colmo lo tengo bajo windoze... pero bueno). La cuestión es que lo puedo poner de manera que poniendo www.los.com/en/ , y junto con la restricción que hay para que sólo se pueda ejecutar el fichero de índice, me lleva a la peich principal. Pero si quiero ponerlo lo de ../en/Algo/digo/, me dice que a la mierda. Por no mencionar que cuando me carga la página poniendo sólo lo de ../en/, luego en los links (que están puestos para seguir path relativo), no me los sigue, y se continua cargando como si no estuviera el /en/ por enmedio. Perdón por el pequeño lio, pero ya me tiene frito. ¿Algún alma caritativa que me quiera ayudar, por favor? Gracias por todo. Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets
Re: Ximian en woody ¿qué paquetes he de ponercomo hold?
Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: El d_ 26 Jul 2001 17:38:06 +0200, Juan C. Amengual escribi_ Hola, voy a actualizar el portátil a testing y tengo el ximian gnome 1.4 instalado en la Potato. ¿Qué paquetes de ximian he de poner en hold antes de actualizar para que me continúe funcionando correctamente? El Ximian GNOME que tienes que utilizar es el de potato, el de woody no lo están actualizando pues ya no lo mantienen hasta que Woody se congele. Los que yo tengo bloqueados son todos los de *gnomeprint*. Hola Carlos, eso, eso es lo que quería saber precisamente. Ya había leído que el libgnomeprint11 había que ponerlo en hold pero no estaba seguro de si había que bloquear alguno más. Sabía que recientemente precisamente tú habías respondido a esta cuestión en la lista, pero al buscar en los archivos de la misma todavía no estaba tu respuesta, ya que era demasiado reciente. Gracias pues por la contestación y perdonad tod*s las molestias. Saludos, JUAN CARLOS AMENGUALA hundred years of blood, crimson the ribbon UNIVERSIDAD JAUME I tightens round my throat. I open my mouth DEPARTAMENTO DE INFORMÁTICA and my head bursts open. A sound like a tiger CAMPUS DE RIU SEC, EDIFICIO TI thrashing in the water, thrashing in the water. CASTELLON, 12071. SPAIN.Over and over, we die one after the other. Phone: +34 964 728361 Robert Smith (The Cure) Fax: +34 964 728435 - One hundred years, Pornography, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1982, Fiction Rec. -
Postgresql 7.1 y potato
Hola, ¿alguien de la lista ha conseguido crear el paquete de postgresql 7.1 en potato? La version 7.0.x no me dio tantos problemas, pero ahora no encuentro el diff y el dsc por ninguna parte, solo los de la version 7.1.x. ¿Alguna idea de donde puedo bajarmelos?. Necesito la 7.x con urgencia y no quiero actualizar a woody hasta que sea estable. Saludos -- (@ @) ---oOO(_)OOo Los pecados de los tres mundos desapareceran conmigo. Alexis Roda - Universitat Rovira i Virgili - Reus, Tarragona (Spain)
Re: smbprint ?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 06:12:13AM +0200, Jaume Teixi wrote: #!/bin/sh /etc/magicfilter/ljet4m-filter | smbclient //server/hp4 PASSWORD -P \ -U USER -c print - /dev/null Ante todo gracias pues he podido imprimir con su receta sin problemas, lo cual me ha ahorrrado alguna que otra hora de leer manuales. Lo único es que para que el scrip me funcionase tenia que poner delante cat $1 |. ¿ Es correcto o es que algo me funciona mal/estoy metiendo la pata ? -- Saludos | Es inutil, no me hacen ni caso Javier Fafián Alvarez | -- Dios.
rtf2ps ??
Pues eso, que necesito convertir un rtf en un ps (para imprimirlo), pero no encunetro nada, solo hacer un rtf2htm | html2ps, con la lógica pérdida de formatos. ¿ Alguna idea ? Gracias. -- Saludos | Es inutil, no me hacen ni caso Javier Fafián Alvarez | -- Dios.
Re: rtf2ps ??
--- Javier Fafián Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pues eso, que necesito convertir un rtf en un ps (para imprimirlo), pero no encunetro nada, solo hacer un rtf2htm | html2ps, con la lógica pérdida de formatos. ¿ Alguna idea ? Gracias. Mi chapuza: StarOffice - print to file. Te queda un precioso ps... Si no es muy complejo puedes usar AbiWord. ?Algo que no requiera Star? ?Recomendaciones? Nos vemos Gabriel Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: rtf2ps ??
El Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, first last escribió: --- Javier Fafián Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pues eso, que necesito convertir un rtf en un ps (para imprimirlo), pero no encunetro nada, solo hacer un rtf2htm | html2ps, con la lógica pérdida de formatos. ¿ Alguna idea ? Gracias. Mi chapuza: StarOffice - print to file. Te queda un precioso ps... Si no es muy complejo puedes usar AbiWord. ?Algo que no requiera Star? ?Recomendaciones? Puedes usar el ted, que es un editor de rtf para linux, y puedes imprimir con el a impresora o a archivo. Por supuesto, está en la debian... ;) -- _ ___ ___ ___ ___ Cèsar Ordiñana telèfon: +34 963467143 (_) __|/ _ \ / __/ _ \ Enginyer I+D fax: +34 963482894 | \__ \ (_) | (_| (_) | [EMAIL PROTECTED]|_|___/\___/ \___\___/
Re: rtf2ps ??
Hola Cèsar... decías, el 05:17-27/jul/2001: Puedes usar el ted, que es un editor de rtf para linux, y puedes imprimir con el a impresora o a archivo. Por supuesto, está en la debian... ;) Mi opción (y es lo que hago) es usar rtf2latex + pslatex -- Daniel PaynoGrupo de Usuarios de Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrador del FTP del GUL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universidad Carlos III de Madrid I'm going to give my psychoanalyst one more year, then I'm going to Lourdes (Woody Allen) pgpmyAapt82NX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Ups! reinstalar el /dev/ttyS0
Holas, pues nada, que como soy un enreda he borrado el /dev/ttyS0 y ahora no se como ponerlo de nuevo. He usado la instrucción mknod /dev/ttyS0 c 62 78 , pero mucho me temo que los valores 62 78 no tienen nada que ver con /dev/ttyS0. Si hago setserial -g /dev/ttyS0 me devuelve No such device El puerto existe, y antes de borrar el /dev/ttyS0 aparecía cuando hacía setserial. Gracias por adelantado -- Fermín Manzanedo | Badajoz - Spain http://www.astrored.net/elsol | Usuario Linux #184967 Desde Toshiba2140CDS | Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 mail -s gpg public key [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpoXT8Vzc9x5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: algo parecido a una red ;)
El jue, día 26 de jul de 2001, a las 07:14:35 +0200, Fermín Manzanedo decía: Buenas otra vez ;) El jue, día 26 de jul de 2001, a las 09:50:01 +0200, Javier Fafián Alvarez decía: Es cierto, se me han olvidado un par de cosas: 1) # echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 2) /sbin/ipchains -A forward -s (ip-segundoordenador)/32 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j MASQ Cuando ejecuto esta línea, me devuelve esto: ipchains: Protocol not available ¿A qué puede deberse? Pues parece que ya está, ahora cuando llegue la tarifa ondulada lo probaré. Lo que pasaba era que mi kernel no tenía soporte para ipchains. Lo recompilé y ya tira (o eso espero). Muchas gracias. Saludos. -- Fermín Manzanedo | Badajoz - Spain http://www.astrored.net/elsol | Usuario Linux #184967 Desde Toshiba2140CDS | Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 mail -s gpg public key [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpjGHrJmV1nE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ups! reinstalar el /dev/ttyS0
El Fri, 27 de Jul de 2001, Fermín Manzanedo escribió... Holas, pues nada, que como soy un enreda he borrado el /dev/ttyS0 y ahora no se como ponerlo de nuevo. He usado la instrucción mknod /dev/ttyS0 c 62 78 , pero mucho me temo que los valores 62 78 no tienen nada que ver con /dev/ttyS0. Hola sacado de /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt 4 char TTY devices ... 64 = /dev/ttyS0 ... Bueno espero que te sirva y sobretodo que te llegue, porque no estoy seguro de que lleguen mis mensajes a la lista. Un saludo, Manuel.
Re: Monitor antivirus?
tambien puedes programarte un escaneador pop3 con reglas.yo mestoy kurrando 1 pa linux con las libtcp4u y otro pa win32 con el winsocks 2. en fin --- Linux User Num# 98528 http://counter.li.org - Original Message - From: RLNIETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Javier Fafián Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Monitor antivirus? Yo no he llegado a instalarlo, pero Trend Micro tiene un producto (Virus Wall) que hace exactamente eso (de pago, eso sí) - Mensaje Original - De: Javier Fafián Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Martes, Julio 24, 2001 8:40 am Asunto: Re: Monitor antivirus? On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:19:43PM -0300, Roberto Meyer wrote: Hola, Me gustaria saber si existe algun producto en el mercado que escanee el correo de los usuarios antes de entregarlo al mbox. Imagino que luego de recibirlo exim? Estamos teniendo infinidad de problemas con los gusanos para m$outlook aparecidos estos 2 ultimos dias y se me ocurre que puede ser la manera mas sencilla de eliminar el spam troyano. Existe un ejecutable para linux en avp.com ( o alog así ) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe debian-user-spanish- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ___ Consigue tu e-mail gratuito TERRA.ES Haz clic en http://www.terra.es/correo/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: consulta-mount-nfs
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Fabian wrote: Hola a todos, Alguien sabria decirme donde se puede conseguir info detallada sobre nfs, quiero compartir recursos entre pc's linux; como se montan los recursos en nfs, etc., por que pongo: (estoy usando el nfs-kernel-server) mount server:/pub /pub y me dice mount: RPC: Programa no registrado si debo declarar el mount, donde se hace? Otra: que es mejor el nfs-kernel-server ó el nfs-server, hay otro metodo mejor que se utilise comunmente para compartir recursos? NFS HOWTO Xavier
Re: NVidia GForce 2 alguien la tiene andando?
Santiago Pastorino wrote: Quisiera saber si alguien tiene una GForce2, para que me cuente que tal anda, si le costo mucho configurarla, etc, etc, porque un amigo se va a comprar una y me pregunto que tal van con linux. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Yo tengo una Geforce 256 DDR, uso las XFree 4.0.3 con los Detonator 3 y me tira perfecto, eso sí los drivers los he pillao de la página no seguía la instalación de los paquetes de debian. Saludos
Re: Multihead con AGP PCI
Dr. Aldo Medina wrote: Antoni Bella Perez wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A Dilluns 23 Juliol 2001 23:28, Lluis Vilanova va escriure: Hola, probe a hacer multihead con dos tarjetas de video PCI sin problemas, activando la mas mala solo cuando lo necesitaba y en el monitor 'cutre', pero ahora que tengo una AGP, que es la que quiero utilizar principalmente, si conecto la PCI, la salida se va por defecto a la PCI, cuando yo quisiera que la tarjeta por defecto fuese la AGP. Es que lo que quiero no es posible? tengo que tocar algo? jumpers? La PCI es una S3 Virge/DX La AGP es una GeForce 2 MX Gracias por adelantado Si no recuerdo mal esto se especifica en el fichero de configuracion de las Xfree. - -- No se escoje en el BIOS? Que yo sepa no, en las X puedes configurar varias tarjetas, cada una le dices en que bus PCI esta y le asignas un identificador, luego tendrás que abrir sesiones en carios displays, cada uno a screens diferentes, mira: man X man XF86Config
Re: Problema con eth0 [SOLUCIONADO]
El 25 Jul 2001 a las 11:12PM +0200, heissu escribio: Tengo una tarjeta de red bastante común para linux, una 3Com (no es nada novedosa). Estoy intentando configurarla mediante ifconfig, pero no hay forma. El kernel ya está compilado (creo que bien, aunque si hay sugerencias al respecto las agradeceré...). Pero al ejecutar el comando ifconfig de la forma: # ifconfig eth0 numIP netmask numNETMASK up el shell me responde con lo siguiente: SIOCSIFADDR: No existe tal dispositivo eth0: unknown interface: No existe tal dispositivo SIOCSIFNETMASK: No existe tal dispositivo eth0: unknown interface: No existe tal dispositivo Por lo que no se configura bien el interface eth0... Muchas gracias... Ya encontré el error. Era cuestión de los módulos (no cargados). Muchas gracias por vuestra ayuda...
Re: consulta-mount-nfs
El vie, día 27 de jul de 2001, a las 12:16:28 -0300, Fabian decía: Hola a todos, Alguien sabria decirme donde se puede conseguir info detallada sobre nfs, quiero compartir recursos entre pc's linux; como se montan los recursos en nfs, etc., por que pongo: (estoy usando el nfs-kernel-server) La GARL tampoco está mal, y está traducida al castellano. La puedes encontrar en http://lucas.hispalinux.es (gracias BJ ;) Un saludo -- Fermín Manzanedo | Badajoz - Spain http://www.astrored.net/elsol | Usuario Linux #184967 Desde Toshiba2140CDS | Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 mail -s gpg public key [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpJ0eQCN7snD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Grabar CD audio
Muchas gracias, con gcdmaster no lo he conseguido (torpeza mia al configurarlo), pero usando cdrdao a pelo he conseguido por fin grabar un CD de musica. Un saludo. On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 06:05:31PM +0200, Manuel Clos wrote: Si es para audio, prueba cdrdao (y gcdmaster) http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/ http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/gcdmaster/ -- Manuel Clos [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Si no puedes hacerlo bien, hazlo bonito (Bill Gates) * If you can't do it well, do it nice (Bill Gates) -- El mundo era tan reciente, que muchas cosas carecían de nombre, y para mencionarlas había que señalarlas con el dedo. Gabriel García Márquez
Re: NVidia GForce 2 alguien la tiene andando?
El jue, 26 de jul de 2001, a las 09:48:22 +0200, Oscar González dijo: Santiago Pastorino wrote: Quisiera saber si alguien tiene una GForce2, para que me cuente que tal anda, si le costo mucho configurarla, etc, etc, porque un amigo se va a comprar una y me pregunto que tal van con linux. Hola: Tengo una Geforce2 MX de 32 Megas y va perfectamente. Para configurarla estuve buscando en : http://www.escomposlinux.org/hardware/ y de allí fuí a: http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/00q3/000811/index.html Siguiendo las instruciones de esta última página punto por punto conseguí que funcionara perfectamente. Que haya suerte. Si no das con ello, escríbeme al correo (ultimamente paro poco por aquí) e intentaré ayudarte. Saludos para tí y para el grupo. Oscar González Solo con mirar en www.nvidia.com ya tienes los ultimso drivers que han sacado (XFree =4.0.x) y tienen un README donde esta todo explicado (lo poco que hay que hacer) es realmente facil (eso si, hay que recompilar kernel con un par de opciones mas). Una pregunta, quiero usar el SVGATextMode, pero necesito la linea de Clocks para dicha tarjeta, de donde lo obtengo si no sale entre los que hay en el archivo?? Y como Chipset le pongo VGA o la estoy desaprovechando,... es que como no sale nada sobre esta tarjeta no me atrevo a probar mucho... Nos leemos --
¿Qué pasa con el euro?
Buenas hace unos días alguien preguntó lo mismo, pero o bien yo no recibí las contestaciones o es que no se contestó. Lo dicho, ¿tenemos euro? (la moneda, no el servidor) o no. En mi teclado aparece un flamante (más que la moneda en sí, pero esto es de otra lista) símbolo de euro en la tecla de la E, para pulsarlo con ALTGR, pero si pulso ALTGR+E, ni flores, tanto en consola como en X. ¿Hay forma de sacar el dichoso simbolito?. Saludos -- Fermín Manzanedo | Badajoz - Spain http://www.astrored.net/elsol | Usuario Linux #184967 Desde Toshiba2140CDS | Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 mail -s gpg public key [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpRq7Di2R4yd.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] la puta mania de dar las cosas por hechas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hay veces que no se entiende la pregunta, es rigurosamente cierto que puede no entenderse la respuesta, pero yo lo que no entiendo es el porque? tiene que ser un galimatias. sin darle mayor importancia, a mi no me importaria enterarme de lo que se envia a la lista, francamente yo, no estoy al cabo de la calle, y si me ahorro u os ahorro, una pregunta, pues eso que me y os encontrais, son dos lineas mas, o un poco mas de interes, ni que decir tiene, que ya le pusieramos el capital, seria la leche. no estoy contestando a uno en concreto, estoy diciendo, que, a mi no me importaria que las contestaciones, asi como las preguntas, fueran amplias, generosas y hasta (que no de toro) catequizante. los que leemos os saludan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7YiuOCVa0P72y9qYRAlZRAKCroktjlf5vuFyX5VfZ89itRycvLACdFff8 OFPnDvXTQthAjHyK6ZSPGNo= =7eC9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Apelo aos admins para padronizar a linha de assunto da lista debian-br
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 01:35:36PM +, hzi wrote: Oi- Serei breve: Fui classificar minhas msgs gravadas no HD, da debian-user-portuguese e constatei que ocorre um certo problema com isso. Pelo menos com o StarOffice. Deconfio que ocorre com o Mozilla, Balsa, etc. Não sei se ocorre com o procmail, gostaria de saber, até. Sua afirmação não procede. Vide meu ~/.procmailrc: DEBIAN=debian/ # Directory for debian mailing lists :0: * ^X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ^X-Mailing-List: debian-\/[-a-zA-Z0-9]+ $DEBIAN/$MATCH/ Como se pode deduzir, cada lista fica em seu diretório separado, dentro do meu diretório de mail (~/Mail), num diretório 'debian'. Não culpe o seu problema de filtros nas pessoas. Existe um header específico pra isso nas listas de discussão da Debian, e na maioria das outras. -- _ _ _| _ _ | _ . _ | _ http://laviola.org Debian-BR Project (_(_|| |(_)_) |(_|\/|(_)|(_| uin#: 981913 (icq) debian-br.sf.net Linux: the choice of a GNU generation - Registered Linux User #103594
Re: Apelo aos admins para padronizar a linha de assunto da lista debian-br
Mensagem anterior No dia 27/07/01, 01:22:53, Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu o seguinte sobre o tema Re: Apelo aos admins para padronizar a linha de assunto da lista debian-br: On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 01:35:36PM +, hzi wrote: Oi- Serei breve: Fui classificar minhas msgs gravadas no HD, da debian-user-portuguese e constatei que ocorre um certo problema com isso. Pelo menos com o StarOffice. Deconfio que ocorre com o Mozilla, Balsa, etc. Não sei se ocorre com o procmail, gostaria de saber, até. Sua afirmação não procede. Vide meu ~/.procmailrc: DEBIAN=debian/# Directory for debian mailing lists :0: * ^X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ^X-Mailing-List: debian-\/[-a-zA-Z0-9]+ $DEBIAN/$MATCH/ Como se pode deduzir, cada lista fica em seu diretório separado, dentro do meu diretório de mail (~/Mail), num diretório 'debian'. Não culpe o seu problema de filtros nas pessoas. Existe um header específico pra isso nas listas de discussão da Debian, e na maioria das outras. Oi- 1) O que não procede? Que as pessoas estão sendo idiossíncráticas na escolhas de nomes da lista, e que isso afeta a classificação por um MUA como o StarOffice? É a pura verdade, garanto. 2) Eu não culpo o me problema de filtro nas pessoas. Eu disse que até queria saber se como isso era feito no procmail. Claramente, o procmail é superior no sorting das mensagens, com as suas expressões regulares. Eu disse que uma coisa tipo [d-u-p] resolveria o problemas de lamers como eu :-) Mas tudo bem, um dia eu chego no procmail... [ ]s Henry
Re: Apelo aos admins para padronizar a linha de assunto da lista debian-br
Em Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:06:30 GMT hzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: 2) Eu não culpo o me problema de filtro nas pessoas. Eu disse que até queria saber se como isso era feito no procmail. Claramente, o procmail é superior no sorting das mensagens, com as suas expressões regulares. Eu disse que uma coisa tipo [d-u-p] resolveria o problemas de lamers como eu :-) Mas tudo bem, um dia eu chego no procmail... eu não cheguei no procmail mas estou satisfeito sorteando mensagens pelo endereço delas nos headers to: e cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org nunca muda... []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | **
Re: configuracao gnome
soh que enquanto nao consigo configurar o modem tenho que usar o outlook, a nao ser que exista outro forma Gustavo escreveu: alô, deixe-me pedir de novo.. .não mande email em html... duplica o tamanho das mensagens e atrapalha todo mundo da lista... sera que eh por que estou usando o outlook ? sim... ele usa email em html como padrão heheh =) []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lexmark Z11 so esta funcionando com catucho colorido
Eu tenho uma impressora Lexmark Z11 funcionando perfeitamente no meu Debian 2.2r3 com cartucho colorido. Na primeira instalacao (cartucho colorido) eu usei o driver cZ11 e o script de configuracao install_filter. Tudo OK. Agora quero mudar o meu cartucho para preto, minhas paginas sao impressas com linhas repetidas, como se estivesse fora de foco. Ja tentei instalar o install_filter_bw mas continuou. Ela funciona como se estivesse utilizando o cartucho colorido, imprime tres linhas como se estivesse compor o preto imprimindo com outras cores! Sei que o problema e o filtro de instalacao mas quando rodo o script install_filter_bw nao faz diferenca.. Ferramentas utilizadas para instalacao: magicfilter, driver cZ11, install_filter, lpr. ___ http://www.zipmail.com.br O e-mail que vai aonde você está.
configuracao gnome ok falta modem e som
se seu mouse estiver configurado certo tttS(correto), pode ser por causa do gpm, tente dar um gpm -k no console, volte para o X e veja se funciona falou valeu pessoal, consegui colocar para rodar gnome, tive que reconfigurar xf86config colocando mouse 2 botoes apesar que nao entendi pois meu mouse eh de 3 botoes e usei o comando gpm -k. pergunto como faco para desativar o gpm e inicializar o gnome automaticamente e colocar o som (placa ) para funcionar.. nao consegui instalar meu modem pois no www.linmodem.org nao ah driver para minha placa que eh um tal de motorola HSP 56 speakfone tem soh para familia Rwindow$, para linux soh tem para HSP 56 fax/modem. alguem pode me dar mais alguma dica, bom dia, Carlucio
OFFTOPIC: Configuração Outlook (Era: configuracao gnome)
Antes de enviar a mensagem, clique em Formatar/Texto Simples. Eu também uso o Outlook e não mando nenhuma mensagem em HTML. Existe uma opção também para que mensagens em Texto Simples sejam padrão. Isso depende de quual versão você está utilizando -Mensagem original- De: tropical colchoes ltda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: Sexta-feira, 27 de Julho de 2001 08:54 Para: Gustavo Noronha Silva; debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Assunto: Re: configuracao gnome soh que enquanto nao consigo configurar o modem tenho que usar o outlook, a nao ser que exista outro forma
exim
Alguem pode me dizer como eu uso e configuro o exim? ou ond encotrar essa informação?? tentei configurar com o eximconfig.mas sinceramente n entendi aquele script ... tipo respondi as perguntas ... mas n sei como enviar email. se alguem poder me ajudar eu agradeço...:) ah eu uso mutt para receber email .
Re: configuracao gnome ok falta modem e som
consegui colocar para rodar gnome, tive que reconfigurar xf86config colocando mouse 2 botoes Tente configurar o GPM de uma das seguintes formas: 1) Se seu mouse for serial: gpm -t ms -3 -R 2) Se seu mouse for PS/2: gpm -t psaux -3 -R No seu XF86Config, use o dispositivo /dev/gpmdata, e o tipo MouseSystems. Explicacao: O que o opcao -R faz eh criar um repetidor de mouse, ou seja, o GPM repete a interface do mouse em outro dispositivo. Isto eh util justamente para o caso de servidores X que conflitam com o GPM. Usando a opcao -R, voce nao precisa parar o GPM antes de iniciar o X. pergunto como faco para desativar o gpm e inicializar o gnome automaticamente e colocar o som (placa ) para funcionar.. Pra iniciar o gnome automaticamente instale o pacote gdm (apt-get install gdm) nao consegui instalar meu modem pois no www.linmodem.org nao ah driver para minha placa que eh um tal de motorola HSP 56 speakfone tem soh para familia Rwindow$, para linux soh tem para HSP 56 fax/modem. HSP nao eh nome de fabricante, e uma denominacao geral para modems que nao fazem processamento de sinal (HSP = Host Signal Processing), ou seja, a maioria dos winmodems. Tente descobrir o faricante do seu modem. Se for PCTEL, ou algum derivado dele (Zoltrix, por exemplo), tem uma chance de que funcione. -- Pazu
Dica-L de hoje: 27/07/2001
Debian-BR: Ajudando na Universalização do Debian Muito bem, Kov!. e demais... Valeu... []'s -- __ ___ _ __ / |/ /__ _(_)__ / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / _ `/ __/ / -_) / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/ /_/\_,_/\__/_/\__/_/ ICQ 44570007.
Re: Dicas-L de hoje: 27/07/2001
Só uma pequena correção: Dicas-L. On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:39:28 -0300 Francisco Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian-BR: Ajudando na Universalização do Debian Muito bem, Kov!. e demais... Valeu... []'s -- __ ___ _ __ / |/ /__ _(_)__ / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / _ `/ __/ / -_) / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/ /_/\_,_/\__/_/\__/_/ ICQ 44570007. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ ___ _ __ / |/ /__ _(_)__ / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / _ `/ __/ / -_) / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/ /_/\_,_/\__/_/\__/_/ ICQ 44570007. Linux user 196694 - Debian GNU/Linux
Configuração de Modem Motorola (era Re: configuracao gnome)
Em Fri, 27 Jul 2001 08:54:05 -0300 tropical colchoes ltda [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: soh que enquanto nao consigo configurar o modem tenho que usar o outlook, a nao ser que exista outro forma perfeito... seus emails não estão vindo em html mais, pode continuar usando outlook... mas vamos ao modem... qual o problema? olhou o site que te passei? []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | **
Re: Dica-L de hoje: 27/07/2001
Em Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:39:28 -0300 Francisco Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Debian-BR: Ajudando na Universalização do Debian Muito bem, Kov!. e demais... kov? Muito bem Debian-BR! por que eu? =) agora é hora de trabalhar mais e mais... no próximo texto sobre o progresso do Debian-BR espero colocar o Guia para Desktop =) e se preparem pra receber mais gente na lista ;) valeu! []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | **
Re: Dicas-l de hoje: 27/07/2001
Olá, Realmente achei interessante a publicação na Dicas-l foi através dela que conheci a Debian-BR e me inscrevi na lista hoje...já uso o Debian a algum tempo e espero contribuir o maximo possivel. []'s Tiago. agora é hora de trabalhar mais e mais... no próximo texto sobre o progresso do Debian-BR espero colocar o Guia para Desktop =) e se preparem pra receber mais gente na lista ;) valeu! []s!
Re: Configuração de Modem Motorola (era Re: configur acao gnome)
Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov escreveu: ((perfeito... seus emails não estão vindo em html mais, pode continuar usando outlook... mas vamos ao modem... qual o problema? olhou o site que te passei?)) Sim mas o meu modem eh motorola HSP 56 spkeaphone e nao encontrei encontrei o drive no site, pode ser que estou equivocado, sds Carlucio
Re: Temas do Blackbox
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 17:52:51 -0300 (EST) Rodrigo Morais Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Francisco Maciel wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 00:50:43 -0300 (EST) Rodrigo Morais Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá lista, essa é para os fans do blackbox: Por nescessidade (realmente não estou acostumado a usar máquinas mais antigas) passei a usar o blackbox, mas terminei me engraçando com o também sou adepto dele!. bichinho. Depois disso tentei botar uns temas nele, fui no bb.themes.org e achei uns temas bem bonitos, briguei um bocado para que aparecerem no meu menu mas consegui, a partir dai que não consegui ir muito longe, os temas que tem imagem de fundo não funcionam (a imagem de fundo), alguem já passou por isso? é comun nos temas para Blackbox, com wallpapers, a última linha do arquivo constar o local da imagem.jpg(por exemplo), confira se está correto!... Já tinha notado isso, mas ainda não é esse o problema. Já notei também que o problema é que não tenho os aplicativos que eles usam para setar o background, tipo xv, Esetroot, que já fiz de tudo para achar onde ficam eses danados e não encontrei até agora!!! Em quais pacotes encontro esses programas? Tente editar o tema geralmente na última(s) linha(s) esta setado o Papel de Parede, dê uma olhada se você tem o software que os seta se não tiver use o 'bsetbg' que pelo oquê eu acho vem com o Blackbox. Use-o assim: rootCommand:bsetbg -f /dir/img.ext Isso no arquivo principal do tema que geralmente fica em .../Styles/tema Até. ps.: Cadê o pessoal de pernambuco? Ainda existe usuários debian aqui? []'s --==: Rodrigo Morais Araujo :==-- --==: :==-- --==:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:==-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ ___ _ __ / |/ /__ _(_)__ / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / _ `/ __/ / -_) / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/ /_/\_,_/\__/_/\__/_/ ICQ 44570007. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==: Rodrigo Morais Araujo :==-- --==: :==-- --==:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:==-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ricardo Sandrin a.k.a strange http://mentalmisery.cjb.net *--* | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| (___) | | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | o o | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | \ ^ / | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | () | *--*
Re: Dicas-l de hoje: 27/07/2001
Em Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:19:34 -0300 Tiago de Lima Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Olá, Realmente achei interessante a publicação na Dicas-l foi através dela que conheci a Debian-BR e me inscrevi na lista hoje...já uso o Debian a algum tempo e espero contribuir o maximo possivel. seja muito bem-vindo =) nós tinhamos consciência de que havia muitos usuários Debian aqui que ainda não tinham conhecimento do nosso projeto, temíamos que aparesse duplicação de esforços também e um esforço único por um propósito único daria mais certo para todos por isso tivemos a idéia de publicar um documento falando do que já tinhamos feito, como forma de tornar conhecido nosso projeto pelas pessoas que possivelmente teriam interesse nele então vamos ao trabalho que há muito ainda que deve ser feito para conseguirmos salvar o mundo (né não edrx? =)) may the source be with you! =) []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.sourceforge.net | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | **
interface para dselect
ola pessoal, este eh meu primeiro e-mail na lista... e vou perguntar sobre algo que talvez seja muito basico... se sim, me desculpem, eh que eu ainda estou comecando no mundo debian... :-) seguinte, instalei o debian 2.2r3 (potato) que comprei numa revista do linux - a instalacao foi simples e facil, *exceto* por alguns pontos e o principal eh: deselect. caramba! o dselect eh realmente uma ferramenta poderosa, mas... complicada! pelo menos para quem nunca o viu antes... tipo, nao ha um front-end para o dselect? ou outra forma de configurar os pacotes do debian? ate agora nao sei exatamente que programas estao no meu sistema... :-) p.ex., procurei os sources do kernel em /usr/src, /usr/local/src, e nada... ai pretendia colocar os sources para poder recompilar o kernel... e ai parei no dselect!... nao ha nada como uma selecao por categorias, semelhante ao slackware, p.ex.? alguem ai me de uma forca, por favor... :-) obrigado pela atencao e espero em breve poder colaborar com outros iniciantes incautos... :-) marcio kuchma
interface para dselect
ola pessoal, este eh meu primeiro e-mail na lista... e vou perguntar sobre algo que talvez seja muito basico... se sim, me desculpem, eh que eu ainda estou comecando no mundo debian... :-) seguinte, instalei o debian 2.2r3 (potato) que comprei numa revista do linux - a instalacao foi simples e facil, *exceto* por alguns pontos e o principal eh: dselect. caramba! o dselect eh realmente uma ferramenta poderosa, mas... complicada! pelo menos para quem nunca o viu antes... tipo, nao ha um front-end para o dselect? ou outra forma de configurar os pacotes do debian? ate agora nao sei exatamente que programas estao no meu sistema, p.ex :-) p.ex., procurei os sources do kernel em /usr/src, /usr/local/src, e nada... ai pretendia colocar os sources para poder recompilar o kernel... e ai parei no dselect!... nao ha nada como uma selecao por categorias, semelhante ao slackware, p.ex.? alguem ai me de uma forca, por favor... :-) obrigado pela atencao e espero em breve poder colaborar com outros iniciantes incautos... :-) marcio kuchma
eh... bom... estranho...
pode parecer meio chato uma mensagem logo em seguida de outra, mas... mandei um e-mail com remetente errado... e quando pensei que iria retornar uma mensagem de erro, a mensagem foi para a lista!... eh isso mesmo - qualquer um pode mandar mensagem para a lista, mesmo sem estar inscrito? obrigado pela atencao, marcio kuchma
Re: Configuração de Modem Motorola
Existe um driver para GNU/Linux do Motorola SM56 HSP, ele esta apenas no formato RPM 4 e soh roda em kernels 2.4.x http://e-www.motorola.com/products/softmodem/support/sm56_5.1_i386.rpm Voce devera converter o rpm para deb, ou extrair os binarios do rpm: /usr/local/sm56/sm56.lib /usr/sbin/sm56setup /usr/share/man/man4/sm56.4 O binario 'sm56setup' instala e configura o modulo, criando o /dev/modem Nao da pra converter esse rpm para deb no potato, pois a versao do RPM do potato eh a 3. Ha imcompatibilidade entre o RPM_4 e o RPM_3. A dist woody tem o RPM 4. Antes de tentar instalar esse driver, leia as informacoes da URL: http://e-www.motorola.com/products/softmodem/support/linux.htm No site http://www.gazetadopinguim.hpg.com.br/ tem um howto em pt_BR explicando a instalacao desse modem, mas o site esta em manutencao... Eu tenho uma copia desse tutorial aqui em html, se vc quiser, te mando em pvt. obs: Eu troquei meu Motorola HSP por um Lucent DSP, que é muito melhor... []s Daniel _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
apt-spy
Depois de ler aqui na lista, tentei usar o apt-spy:
apt-spy -d TESTING -l teste.apt
Obtive apenas :
::: [*] Connect timed out...
::: Unrecoverable Error [1]: Could not retrieve list from DEBIAN.ORG
estranho o Connect timed out: levou três segundos para apresentar isto..
Alguma pista?? Olhando pelo strace, ele conseguiu conectar no site:
read(4, 220 ike.egr.msu.edu FTP server (..., 4096) = 89
write(4, USER anonymous\r\n, 16) = 16
read(4, 331 Guest login ok, send your co..., 4096) = 68
write(4, PASS [EMAIL PROTECTED], 19) = 19
read(4, 230-Welcome, archive user anonym..., 4096) = 54
read(4, 230-The local time is: Fri Jul 2..., 4096) = 762
read(4, 230-ftp ftp://ftp.eg;..., 4096) = 371
write(4, TYPE I\r\n, 8) = 8
read(4, 200 Type set to I.\r\n, 4096) = 20
write(4, PASV\r\n, 6) = 6
read(4, 227 Entering Passive Mode (35,9,..., 4096) = 49
::: [|) = 523ng passive mode .
::: [/] Parsing address and port for transfer ...) = 50
::: [-] Resolving host ...) = 102
::: [\] Creating socket ...) = 28ket ..., 28
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 5
::: [|] Connecting to socket ...) = 33et ., 33
ioctl(5, FIONBIO, [1]) = 0
connect(5, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(41687),
sin_addr=inet_addr(35.9.37.225)}}, 16) = -1 EINPROGRESS (Operation now
in progress)
::: [/] Selecting socket ... ) = 34. ..., 34
select(6, NULL, [5], NULL, {5, 0}) = 0 (Timeout)
::: [*] Connect timed out) = 26ed out, 26
close(0)= 0
::: [*1, \r::: [*\n, 8
) = 8
close(4)= 0
munmap(0x40021000, 4096)= 0
close(4)= -1 EBADF (Bad file descriptor)
::: Unrecoverable Error [1]: Could not retrieve list from DEBIAN.ORG
___ _ .''`.
| |_ _. _| _ |_) _ ._ ._ _. : :' :
| | |(_|(_|(/_|_| | (/_| || |(_| `. `'`
Linux User #50500`-
Prof.Adjunto - Instituto de Física Debian-
Universidade Federal Fluminense Alpha/K6/K7
Re: interface para dselect
O dselect é o front-end do dpkg! existe um tutorial sobre o dselect no site do Debian-br (http://debian-br.sourceforge.net) na seção documentação. Nesse local você ainda pode encontrar o guia prático escrito pelo KoV, que te dará mais informações interessantes, como: descobrir exatamente o que está instalado em seu computador, como compilar o kernel etc. Existe ainda um tutorial sobre apt. Há também uma interface gráfica para o dselect, que é o gapt do gnome, contudo, se ele não tiver instalado, vc terá que instalá-lo pelos comandos apt, dpkg ou pelo dselect :). Abraço. João Alberto. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 8:01 PM Subject: interface para dselect ola pessoal, este eh meu primeiro e-mail na lista... e vou perguntar sobre algo que talvez seja muito basico... se sim, me desculpem, eh que eu ainda estou comecando no mundo debian... :-) seguinte, instalei o debian 2.2r3 (potato) que comprei numa revista do linux - a instalacao foi simples e facil, *exceto* por alguns pontos e o principal eh: dselect. caramba! o dselect eh realmente uma ferramenta poderosa, mas... complicada! pelo menos para quem nunca o viu antes... tipo, nao ha um front-end para o dselect? ou outra forma de configurar os pacotes do debian? ate agora nao sei exatamente que programas estao no meu sistema, p.ex :-) p.ex., procurei os sources do kernel em /usr/src, /usr/local/src, e nada... ai pretendia colocar os sources para poder recompilar o kernel... e ai parei no dselect!... nao ha nada como uma selecao por categorias, semelhante ao slackware, p.ex.? alguem ai me de uma forca, por favor... :-) obrigado pela atencao e espero em breve poder colaborar com outros iniciantes incautos... :-) marcio kuchma
DVD_ROM and CD_RW
hi all debian users, Can some recommend me a good DVD_ROM and CD_RW currectly supported under latest kernel_2.4.7 or lower.I cant find any good information on googles especially the DVD_ROM.Thanks all. CaT. -- (o_ .--. //\ | JC Wong,Singapore | http://www.polaroids.org | V_/_ | ICQ: 19663610 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ^^ ^^ `--`
Re: ipchains for the firewall challenged
On 07/26/01 20:20:05 -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
I notice you've already applied another solution, but I hope I can
provide some direction should you (or anyone else) decide they'd like
to do it yourself:
I have found that the most useful thing in setting up ipchains or
iptables is to see and understand the diagrams representing packet
flow in the kernel code. Maybe that's not for everyone, and I'm more
of a visual learner (or something). Anyway, for ipchains, it looks
like this:
Diagram snipped
It's a little burly for your purposes. All you're talking about is a
packet filter, with no forwarding (and hence no masquerading, etc.) So
let's take out what's unimportant and reduce it to this:
Yeah, I had read through the IPChains Howto, and I think I got some of
the fundamentals down. I tend to learn by example, so as a newbie, I
had some trouble applying what was going on with the real world
example given in the howto to my own needs.
---
|ACCEPT/ lo interface |
v REDIRECT |
-- C -- S -- __ -- -- ___ --
h a|input |{Routing } |output |ACCEPT
e n|Chain |{Decision} ---|Chain |
c i|__| | |___|
k t | | | |
s y | | | |
u | v v | v
m | DENY/ Local Process | DENY/
| vREJECT | |REJECT
| DENY -
v
DENY
That's a bit more manageable, no? All you need to worry about are the
input and output chains. I'm going to recommend a very simple ruleset
for you; no need to mess around with all kinds of user-defined chains.
You might want (after reading some more and getting the hang of what's
going on here) to add some logging capabilities to the setup, but for
now, let's just roll a simple script:
Ah, yes. That was one of the problems I had. The example revolved
around forwarding packets, which then quickly got out of hand for me
when trying to figure out what I needed to do. I think I understood
most of what was being discussed, and when I do get around to setting
up a gateway machine for my home network (coming soon), I'll draw from
it. I think I'll go back and re-read it and focus on what each was
trying to be accomplished.
(I've been (happily) immersed in the iptables world and haven't used
ipchains in a while (and don't have a machine to test it on, either),
so if it has a couple of syntactical glitches in it, please bear with
me.)
No problem, just a great big thank you for taking the time to
explain this to me and others.
firewall script snipped
Thanks again, I've already added your message to my Saved folder!
--
Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help me!
On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 03:23:43AM +, Zenon Braga F. wrote: | I'm trying with no sucess to download the CD's for powerpc, here | what i'm doing: | | ./make-pseudo-image binary-powerpc-1.list ftp://ftp.inf.ufpr.br/debian | | and what i'm getting: | | ./make-pseudo-image: let: not found | Generating file list... | ./make-pseudo-image: ncftp2: not found | Processing: /README.non-US | Getting... | ./make-pseudo-image: teste: argument expected What system are you using make-psuedo-package on? If you have an rsync client available, you can cheat and go directly to the rsync server (ie without a close-but-not-quite iso already on disk). There are also pre-made CDs available for a few bucks from many sites. If you want to pay for the discs and shipping I am willing to make some for you. -D
partition table woes
I screwed up my partition table today and, like an idiot, I don't have a record of it. Are there any tools I can use to determine where my partitions were? I have a 10GB IDE disk, hda. I had hda1 as /, hda2 as swap and hda3 as /home. The space was approximately evenly divided between / and /home and 256MB swap. Obviously / starts at sector 1. I determined, through trial-and-error, that / ends not before sector 748, but fsck doesn't complain if I make the partition too big. I don't think I have the size quite right because when I add 256MB to that and allocate /home I get errors about an invalid superblock. I can run debugfs on / and see all the data in that superblock. There must be some way (even looking at the raw bits on the disk) to determine where the partitions started prior to my screw up. It is (was) a woody system and I have potato CDs (ie rescue disk). Thanks for any pointers and suggestions. -D
Re: A NEWBIE inquiry......
On 07/26/01 22:40:52 -0500, d wrote: I am running Windows SE 98+! V4.10.a on a PCChips PC100 MBD/w AMD K6 II 3D 400meg, 163.48meg RAM, USR 56k INT MDM plus a PCTEL WinModem (that is NOT being used at this time), two 8.4 gig IDE H/D's. One is setup to run WinBlows 98 the other I have set to 7 partitions, three for Debian v2.1 and three for Mandrake v7.0, there are 6 of them the other is just FREE SPACE. Hope to be able to access that from which ever one needs added space. Now my question is what would I have to do to set these up so I can access one from the other? I can now access the WinBlows from Mandrake, have NOT set things so I can do that from Deb just yet. The other is how can I get both of them to acknowledge my USR MDM, neither one will recognize it and MD never has even from my first install? I know there are HOWTO's and many other MAN pages and various other thingys, I spend most of a day just attempting to keep up with these messages. THE END. This has gone on far enough, I am going to give you the chance to do what most people DREAM of being able to do, TELL ME WHERE TO GO to reach my END. I can't help with your modem, but for accessing your other partitions I think what you might want to look at is the mount command and also the /etc/fstab file. The mount command is use for er, mounting partitions. The /etc/fstab file makes mounting filesystems much easier. check out the man page for mount. You might want to post some more info about how you have your Linux installations set up. One way to do this is to run the df command whick will give you output like this: mwagnon @ mordor:~/files/latex $ df Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 198313 27166160893 14% / /dev/hda5 1007960 53996902760 6% /var /dev/hda6 495876 919469356 0% /tmp /dev/hda8 27201348961324 24858260 4% /usr /dev/hda3 5039592370716 4412872 8% /usr/local /dev/hda4 4911728249828 4412396 5% /home Try not to laugh too much at my partition scheme, I was just messing around and not too sure how to allocate all the space on this monster sized drive 8^) ONE more for the ROAD, please.where is a GOOD place for a NEWBIE that is NOT a programmer nor very familiar with UNIX or Linux to learn how to get started. I Know READ, READ, READ, etcetera, at 61 I do NOT have that much time left to do all of that. I don't think you're going to be able to get away from reading. I sounds like you already have an intro book, but Running Linux published by O'Reilly is a good book for getting a handle on the basics. You might take a look at local community colleges in your area. I took a UNIX class that was taught using Red Hat. It was a good intro to some of the basics and let me see what some of Linux's capabilities are. You might also look for any Linux User's Groups in your area. Check out http://noframes.linuxjournal.com:8080/glue/ for starters. I just found a LUG in San Antonio. Web site at: http://www.satlug.org/ Good luck, and hey, you've already tapped one of the best sources of info--this list! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: huge tree of package descriptions in /var/tmp
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 08:13:18PM -0400, Andrew Pimlott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I fear this question will have an embarassing answer, but I just found a large file tree in /var/tmp/filexQ70qA on my Debian Woody system. The contents seem to be some form of the Debian packages database. filexQ70qA/ contains a huge number of directiories (~ 5000--BTW, that takes a while to list in ext2 ;) ), each named after a Debian package. Each of those directories contains a single file of the same name, whose contents is the packages entry for that package (eg, libapache-request-perl/libapache-request-perl contains Package: libapache-request-perl\n...). The whole tree takes up about 50 megs. I found same, dated sometime in May. ~ May 8, IIRC. Was out of space on /var, deleted same last night. No adverse [EMAIL PROTECTED]*(...lost carrier -- I also recently found this and I do NOT have any idea what it is. Any Debian package maintainers know what this is?? Looks like it might have something to do with dpkg-- I checked and the corresponding description was not removed when I deleted a package. Also I noticed that the dates seem to be the same on all of the descriptions. all Jun.26 16:37 or 16:38 time-stamped. John
Re: A NEWBIE inquiry......
1) You'll probably get more responses if you'll use a descriptive subject line and separate your various questions into separate posts. Usually. In this case, it probably makes more sense to do it the way you have done it. d wrote: snip re: Mandrake 7.0 Debian GNU/Linux v2.1 Windows SE 98 on the same box USR 56k INT MDM plus a PCTEL WinModem (that is NOT being used at this time), two 8.4 gig IDE H/D's. One is setup to run WinBlows 98 the other I have set to 7 partitions, three for Debian v2.1 and three for Mandrake v7.0, there are 6 of them the other is just FREE SPACE. Hope to be able to access that from which ever one needs added space. Now my question is what would I have to do to set these up so I can access one from the other? I can now access the WinBlows from Mandrake, have NOT set things so I can do that from Deb just yet. As root, mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/Win98 (see man mount for more info). This assumes Win98 is on the first partition of the first IDE drive (hda1), and that you have a directory named /mnt/Win98. Since Mandrake is already configured to see the Windows partition, you can boot into Mandrake and have a look-see in /etc/fstab; this will have a line something like: /dev/hda1 /Win98 vfatdefaults0 0 So in this case, once in Debian, you'd type mount /dev/hda1 /Win98 (you might need to specify the filesystem type, which in the above case is VFAT (FAT16/32)), so the command'd be mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /Win98. You can automate this by duplicating the line in /etc/fstab on the Debian side. Then on the next reboot into Debian the Windows partition will automatically be mounted on the /Win98 directory (make sure you create this directory first if it doesn't exist). Or, without a reboot, you can manually type the mount command, or since it's now in /etc/fstab, you can shorten the command to mount /Win98, and the mount command will figure out the rest from the definition in fstab. The command mount by itself will show you what's mounted, and mount -a will attempt to mount everything defined in fstab. If you want to share files between Mandrake and Debian, pick a partition to share (such as /dev/hda5), and make sure each distro mounts that partition. For example, if /dev/hda3 is your /home directory in Mandrake, and /dev/hda5 is your /home in Debian, you can use just one, say /dev/hda3, as your /home in both distros. Just change /etc/fstab on the Debian side to mount /home on 3 instead of on 5. (CAVEAT: I vaguely remember that there may be some sort of issue with this type of sharing, but I can't recall what it might be; other list members can perhaps confirm or deny this vague recollection.) The other is how can I get both of them to acknowledge my USR MDM, neither one will recognize it and MD never has even from my first install? Of course the first question is Is it a win-modem? (Most internal PCI modems are.) If it is, you might find it easier (and perhaps the only route) to replace it with a non-win-modem. Externals are almost always okay (what about external USB modems? anyone know if they are real for sure?). If it's not a win-modem, you can use the program minicom to do some testing (try different serial ports, try ATZ and other commands for an OK response, try dialing out); you can't do ppp stuff with it (like using a web browser), but it can give you some valuable info. Also, if it's working in Windows, look at the properties there to see what serial port, IRQ, etc, that it's using, That can be good info. I know there are HOWTO's and many other MAN pages and various other thingys, I spend most of a day just attempting to keep up with these messages. THE END. This has gone on far enough, I am going to give you the chance to do what most people DREAM of being able to do, TELL ME WHERE TO GO to reach my END. ONE more for the ROAD, please.where is a GOOD place for a NEWBIE that is NOT a programmer nor very familiar with UNIX or Linux to learn how to get started. I Know READ, READ, READ, etcetera, at 61 I do NOT have that much time left to do all of that. Your absolute best route? Repeated installs of various distros on differing types of hardware. Start with Debian, because this Debian-related list is the best tech support you'll find anywhere short of having a guru as a friend, but once you start in on the other distros, we'll tend to refer you to the other distros' tech support channels. When I started with Linux, I figured it'd take me about a year to get comfortable (of course that estimate was based on having a full-time job and life apart from learning/experimenting with Linux). In reality it took me two years before I felt comfortable, and three before I felt like I pretty much knew what I was doing. I'm not a programmer/developer; just a user/tinkerer. Nonetheless, I read lots and lots. Since you don't have much time to read, your best
Re: Open Source Statistical Packages?
Jens Scheidtmann wrote: John Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My normal occupation as a process engineer requires much DOE and SPC work. SAS and others cost tens of thousands of dollars and are not particularly user friendly. Any suggestions for open source? If not, how would I go about getting some people on a band wagon? I'm not a great programmer, but I'd be willing to help. (I'm practicing, but coding in C is not a one night learning experience :)). Look at www.r-project.org and there is a pspp project (spss) somewhere out there. Have a look at sal.kachinatech.com HTH, Jens Hi- Don't even waste your time with pspp. It has been stopped a long time ago, and it was pretty much alpha anyways. R is a very powerfull statistics package. You will be able to import your data from SAS, nothing will be lost. R is *the* prefered statistical software by staticians doing research.R implements the S language. Therefore, it is a language and environment for statistical computing. This, of course, implies a learning curve, because implies learning to program in R. This, however, gives you more flexibility and power. I used SPSS my self, but I decided that R had everything I needed, so I gave up on SPSS altogether, and I don't regret it.I'm trying to evangelize a few people about R. I can also interact with people using other software packages, so their choice doesn't affect me. R has very powerful graphics capabilities, *way* better than anything I've used (I haven't used SAS, though). R is available as a Debian package, but you will have to edit your sources files (instructions on the URL Jens gave you). Updating R is, of course, no sweat in a Debian system. The R software is developped by a very serious team of programmers, mostly staticians. One of the main developers holds a Chair of Statistics in Oxford. Don't forget to get the documentation and sign up to the R mailing list, where you can ask questions (after you read the documentation, :-) ) Best reagards Henry
RE: A good c++ mailing list
I have never programmed in C++ as part of my job or at home, but want to learn it in order to create a basis for comparison and since I feel very comfortable with C. As time permits I am reading through Thinking in C++ and doing the homework. It is a good practical book with some very good examples. As I mentioned earlier there is exercises at the end of each chapter that build on the examples given in that and earlier chapters. The writing style seems (to me any way) fairly clear and concise. Here's the info: Thinking in C++ Bruce Eckel Prentice Hall ISBN 0-13-917709-4 Copyright 1995 Cheers, -rick
Chronically broken package - bugs? In tetex-bin AND apt-get?
Hello- I'm sorry if I sound hysterical, but I have reasons for concern. In fact, I'm truly desperate: it has been over a three months that I try to tackle this problem whenever I have some time. I was never able to use TeX on my potato, because the package somehow got broken. And I mean *badly* broken. In dselect, it appear as *RI, which means that I should reinstall it. But **nothing works** Purging tetex-bin (and all it's dependencies, of course) results in nothing... apt-get remove tetex-bin - tells me that the package is in a very inconsistent state and you should consider reinstalling it before removing. But... apt-get install reinstall tetex-bin - no good and apt-get -f install tetex-bin tetex-doc tetex-lib tetex-base abd then apt-get -f install You get the same error, below siddhi:~# apt-get -f install Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: r-gnome 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 19 not upgraded. 15 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/2656kB of archives. After unpacking 225kB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 115823 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace tetex-bin 1.0.6-7 (using .../tetex-bin_1.0.6-7_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement tetex-bin ... open /var/lib/xaw-wrappers/update-wrappers-history: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado [file or directory not found] dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 2 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... open /var/lib/xaw-wrappers/update-wrappers-history: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado [file or directory not found] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-bin_1.0.6-7_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 2 open /var/lib/xaw-wrappers/update-wrappers-history: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado [file or directory not found] dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-bin_1.0.6-7_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Another approach... siddhi:~# apt-get --reinstall install tetex-bin Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 25 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/2656kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 123935 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace tetex-bin 1.0.6-7 (using .../tetex-bin_1.0.6-7_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement tetex-bin ... open /var/lib/xaw-wrappers/update-wrappers-history: No such file or directory dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 2 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... open /var/lib/xaw-wrappers/update-wrappers-history: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-bin_1.0.6-7_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 2 open /var/lib/xaw-wrappers/update-wrappers-history: No such file or directory dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-bin_1.0.6-7_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I have *no* /var/lib/xaw-wrappers/update-wrappers-history/ !! So, why the hell it keeps looking for it?! *Whatever I do*, it keeps giving me this error message!!! I've even tried moving the post-removal script in /var/lib/dpkg/info (tetex-bin.postrm), but to no avail. I have no idea...I'm desperate, I've tried everything I know. Even dpkg with the force option... With all the time and effort I put in solving this problem, I'm sttil at ground zero with this package. I am seriously considering the possibility that: 1) There is a bug in the tetex-bin package 2) There is a bug in apt-get (!) Why am I considering apt-get? Because if I try to install *anything*, apt-get simply goes crazy with stupid messages. For instance, when I apt-get install grep-dctrl: The following NEW packages will be installed: grep-dctrl 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded. 15 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/2683kB of archives. After unpacking 127kB will be used. Selecting previously deselected package tetex-bin. (Reading database ... 115771 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace tetex-bin 1.0.6-7 (using .../tetex-bin_1.0.6-7_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement tetex-bin ... open /var/lib/xaw-wrappers/update-wrappers-history: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned
Re: dselect: Package list totally Wrong
Gerd Wilhelm wrote: Hi Debianiens, the third time i have got the following Problem: I tried to install a Package vie dselect, but found out that the Dependencies where not met. One or to wrong keystrokes and dselect wants to _deinstall_ 142 Packages. Does anyone know a way I can tell dselect to adapt the its List to the true state of my system? The Key R for Go back to the state before this List does not help, because i had endet dselect. Thank You for your Help Gerd Hi Gerd- Have you been installing a great many tarballs in your system? I ask this because unless you alien -d x.tgz the packaging system will not recognize the stuff you just installed. HTH. Henry
Debian Install Problem
Hi, I'm new to the list. I'm trying to install Debian on an i386 machine, and I've gotten it working, but now when I try to reinstall after I had some problems, it keeps telling me there was a problem installing the base system, that, or the installer refuses to let me configure the base system-- just install it again. Any ideas? .. -- Deven
Re: A good c++ mailing list
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 10:52:16PM -0700, Rick Commo wrote: I have never programmed in C++ as part of my job or at home, but want to learn it in order to create a basis for comparison and since I feel very comfortable with C. As time permits I am reading through Thinking in C++ and doing the homework. It is a good practical book with some very good examples. As I mentioned earlier there is exercises at the end of each chapter that build on the examples given in that and earlier chapters. The writing style seems (to me any way) fairly clear and concise. Here's the info: Thinking in C++ Bruce Eckel Prentice Hall ISBN 0-13-917709-4 Copyright 1995 Cheers, -rick It's available online as PDF, html and MSWord (!). www.bruceeckel.com www.mindview.net/books His Thinking in Java is there as well. -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix
Re: MB suggestions?
Matti Airas wrote: Hi, I just upgraded my desktop motherboard and processor to ASUS A7A266 (ALi MaGiK 1) and Athlon 1200 MHz. However, it seems I didn't do my background research well enough - ALi MaGiK won't play together with my BT878-based Hauppauge TV tuner card. The computer hangs completely always when I try to launch XawTV. However, I probably will still be able to exchange the MB to another model. What should the new motherboard (or more specifically, the chipset) be? The criteria for me are: - supports Athlon 1200 MHz with 266 MHz FSB - supports SDR SDRAM - supports my Hauppauge WinTV PCI TV tuner card (bt878-chip) - works flawlessly with Linux (of course) - is stable - gives most bang for the buck (of course) The store I've been using seems to carry mostly VIA KT133 -based boards. Would getting one be a horrible mistake? How about the ones with an integrated Promise RAID controller? They would give a relative abundance of IDE channels, but would it be worth it? I've been eyeing on an Asus A7V133 WA or Abit KT7A-100 Raid. Would they do the job? Any advice or opinions would be welcome. Best regards, -- Matti Airas For some weeks now I have an Asus A7M266, with Athlon1200 and 512 MB DDR-SDRAM. I don't know about the onboard SCSI-components, because I'm using an IDE-only system. The onboard sound works very well for me, and the system was never unstable. The only thing is a hardware problem(?) with the GeForce 2 GTS (Asus v7700 w/64MB DDR-Ram). If the graphics aperture size in BIOS is 32 MB, system freezes (don't know why) hth joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: A good c++ mailing list
I don't know of any good C++ mailing lists, but I would suggest you take a look at Ivor Horton's Beginning Visual C++ 6 from Wrox Press. Half the book is tailored to Windows programming, but the other half is a very well-taught lesson on C++ Console Programming, useful in DOS, Unix, or anywhere else for that matter. Hope this helps, -- Deven
Re: MB suggestions?
I personally like the AOpen MK-33. It's only an Athlon 1ghz max board, but AOpen has some boards that will sport an Athlon past 1200mhz easily. It ran FreeBSD and NetBSD just fine, but I have not yet been able to get it working with my Hauppauge WinTV USB device in Windows 98 first edition. I'm going to put Debian on it and try it with the Linux driver though. Good luck, Deven AMD! AMD! Gallo In a message dated 7/27/01 2:11:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matti Airas wrote: Hi, I just upgraded my desktop motherboard and processor to ASUS A7A266 (ALi MaGiK 1) and Athlon 1200 MHz. However, it seems I didn't do my background research well enough - ALi MaGiK won't play together with my BT878-based Hauppauge TV tuner card. The computer hangs completely always when I try to launch XawTV. However, I probably will still be able to exchange the MB to another model. What should the new motherboard (or more specifically, the chipset) be? The criteria for me are: - supports Athlon 1200 MHz with 266 MHz FSB - supports SDR SDRAM - supports my Hauppauge WinTV PCI TV tuner card (bt878-chip) - works flawlessly with Linux (of course) - is stable - gives most bang for the buck (of course) The store I've been using seems to carry mostly VIA KT133 -based boards. Would getting one be a horrible mistake? How about the ones with an integrated Promise RAID controller? They would give a relative abundance of IDE channels, but would it be worth it? I've been eyeing on an Asus A7V133 WA or Abit KT7A-100 Raid. Would they do the job? Any advice or opinions would be welcome. Best regards, -- Matti Airas
Re: Link between newsgroup linux.debian.user and the debian user mailing list ?
Mensagem anterior No dia 26/07/01, 18:50:06, Yves Dessertine [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu o seguinte sobre o tema Link between newsgroup linux.debian.user and the debian user mailing list ?: Hi. I want to know it there is any link between the linux.debian.user newsgroup and the debian user mailing list. It seems to be the same messages on both. Am I right or do some people cross post in both ? I ask this stupid question because I discovered Debian, the usenet groups and this mailing list at the same time, and, because of the amount of messages, can I unsubscribe the list without loosing contact ? Congratulations to all debian maintainers, developers, coordinators, etc ... Debian is simply the best distro I've ever seen (after testing 6 distribs, I switched to debian). Bravo guys ! -- Yves Dessertine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Yves- It's not a stupid question. Here's the deal: everything you post via the mailing-list gets posted to the news server. The other way around is not so. That is, you might post via news, but it won't show on the list. At least, that's what happens with the d-u-portuguese list. SO, when I didn't know this, I wouldn't get an answer becasue it was posted via news. HTH. BR. Henry
Re: Installing Galeon on Potato
Mensagem anterior No dia 26/07/01, 13:00:13, dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu o seguinte sobre o tema Re: Installing Galeon on Potato: On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 02:03:26PM +0100, Wayne Brown wrote: | Hi, | Can anyone help me with trying to get Galeon running on my Potato system | please. | I have Mozilla from stable installed and do not have Gnome installed. | I noticed galeon is in unstable so I tried adding a line to my | /etc/apt/sources list | for unstable then did an apt-get update then an apt-get install galeon but | it could not do it. | It said that certain files that were needed were not available. | What am I doing wrong? Galeon needs GNOME. Check the dependencies list on packages.debian.org and download all the packages you need to meet those dependencies (be sure and check version numbers too). Then use 'dpkg -i *.deb' in the directory you downloaded the packages to. HTH, -D There's a problem with a library, I do't remember which one, that's no the default one used in potato. So I guess your question would be how to use __safely__ an application with another library, without screwing up the old one. Find out the library, I think it's a __real__ important one. HTH.BR. Henry
Re: balsa: orphaned?
Mensagem anterior No dia 26/07/01, 06:00:10, Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu o seguinte sobre o tema balsa: orphaned?: what's up with balsa? there's a huge number of old bugs (year or two old) including the ne that makes it uninstallable (+2 month days): Grave functionality bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available). #98110: balsa: depends on libltdl0, which has been removed Package: balsa; Severity: grave; Reported by: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 66 days old. anybody knows what's going on? Hey, Balsa is great, in that it uses Unix mbox, and you can use procmail with it. It shouldn't be orphaned, if it's tue, what a shame! Henry
Re: Chronically broken package - bugs? In tetex-bin AND apt-get?
Henry Lebowzki wrote: Hello- I'm sorry if I sound hysterical... snip A broken package can be the result of a download problem. Just try downloading the package causing problems and install it with dpkg. If this works, congratulations, you're done and run apt-get upgrade to process the rest of your packages. I don't think that the potato-tetex-package has such a serious bug, because I have used it myself and it worked ;-) hth joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: partition table woes
on Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 12:26:35AM -0400, dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I screwed up my partition table today and, like an idiot, I don't have a record of it. Are there any tools I can use to determine where my partitions were? No specific tools I'm aware of. I keep a hardcopy printout of my partition tables and mount schemes, backed up by my paritioning HOWTO (doing double-duty as another backup of my partition tables). I have a 10GB IDE disk, hda. I had hda1 as /, hda2 as swap and hda3 as /home. The space was approximately evenly divided between / and /home and 256MB swap. Obviously / starts at sector 1. I determined, through trial-and-error, that / ends not before sector 748, but fsck doesn't complain if I make the partition too big. I don't think I have the size quite right because when I add 256MB to that and allocate /home I get errors about an invalid superblock. I can run debugfs on / and see all the data in that superblock. There must be some way (even looking at the raw bits on the disk) to determine where the partitions started prior to my screw up. It is (was) a woody system and I have potato CDs (ie rescue disk). I think the following may work. I've managed to recover a partition table from memory before. If you know how you sized your partitions, you can try plugging in the appropriate values, and saving the table. Since the partition table doesn't actually modify disk data, this won't scramble your data. I'd restrict my mounts to read-only -- if you size things right, your filesystems should match up, if you don't, they should break. That's the theory. It's a bit seat-of-your-pants, and it's a last-ditch suggestion, and it's crazy, but it might just work Thanks for any pointers and suggestions. ...print your partition tables next time and shoot a copy of the file to your website. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Are these opinions my employer's? Hah! I don't believe them myself! pgpMkQAbgfo9M.pgp Description: PGP signature
sid - locales and glibc
Hi list I just ran apt-get update apt-get upgrade, just to see that locales are going to be removed. Why? because it depends on glibc, and glibc is not available. Hmm, I always thought that glibc is a rather important lib, on ehich most c-programs are based. So, what is wrong? Is glibc not needed any more? And if yes, I won't be able to use locales any more, and so apt won't never talk german to me any more :-( ? joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: sid - locales and glibc
Joerg Johannes wrote: I just ran apt-get update apt-get upgrade, just to see that locales are going to be removed. Why? because it depends on glibc, and glibc is not available. Hmm, I always thought that glibc is a rather important lib, on ehich most c-programs are based. So, what is wrong? Is glibc not needed any more? And if yes, I won't be able to use locales any more, and so apt won't never talk german to me any more :-( ? I suggest you place locales and libc6 on hold for a few days. My guess is that they're just out of sync. First locales was updated, but not libc6; now libc6 has been updated, and locales has been updated _again_, so they're still out of sync. With any luck, this will all get straightened out tomorrow... Craig
how do i find out kernel-image parameters
i have installed a debian progeny distribution. i want to know if the kernel is compiled with CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY defined. how do i do this? in general is there a way to find out what options have been set in the kernel? thanks prabhakar
Re: GUI/Wmaker system shutdown app?
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: [...] I'm aware that wdm can be used to log off the system, but this requires a two-step process: - Exit the existing WMaker session. - Log off via wdm (providing yet another password). Even if the user is permitted to log off the system (rather than restricting logoffs to root), the password needs to be entered, *after* exiting the windowmanager. Actually, that's a _true_ feature, that is: you can turn it off. In /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config, set: DisplayManager*wdmVerify: false DisplayManager*wdmRoot: false For my parents, this is excessive loop-jumping. You decide. -- Philipp Lehman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Re: how do i find out kernel-image parameters
On Friday 27 July 2001 10:12, R. Prabhakar spoke wisely: i have installed a debian progeny distribution. i want to know if the kernel is compiled with CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY defined. how do i do this? in general is there a way to find out what options have been set in the kernel? thanks prabhakar Normally there is a file in /boot/ which has the name config-kernel version and contains the kernel config parameters, if you use a precompiled kernel. Don't know if this file is exactly the same in progeny, also it is based on debian. hope it helps Daniel
Re: sid - locales and glibc
Craig Dickson wrote: Joerg Johannes wrote: I just ran apt-get update apt-get upgrade, just to see that locales are going to be removed. Why? because it depends on glibc, and glibc is not available. Hmm, I always thought that glibc is a rather important lib, on ehich most c-programs are based. So, what is wrong? Is glibc not needed any more? And if yes, I won't be able to use locales any more, and so apt won't never talk german to me any more :-( ? I suggest you place locales and libc6 on hold for a few days. My guess is that they're just out of sync. First locales was updated, but not libc6; now libc6 has been updated, and locales has been updated _again_, so they're still out of sync. With any luck, this will all get straightened out tomorrow... Craig OK, I see, so libc6 == glibc ? joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: how do i find out kernel-image parameters
R. Prabhakar wrote: i have installed a debian progeny distribution. i want to know if the kernel is compiled with CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY defined. how do i do this? in general is there a way to find out what options have been set in the kernel? thanks prabhakar There should be a file config-version in /boot Read it and you'll find out the options it was compiled with hth joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: balsa: orphaned?
Yes balsa is a great program and should not be orphaned and if nobody is interesting in packaging it, I would certainly ITP it soon. By the way, I build on a nearly daily bases debian package from cvs. You can find my packages at the following url : http://ufies.org/~christophe Christophe Le jeu, 26 jui 2001 10:58:08, Erik Steffl a écrit : what's up with balsa? there's a huge number of old bugs (year or two old) including the ne that makes it uninstallable (+2 month days): Grave functionality bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available). #98110: balsa: depends on libltdl0, which has been removed Package: balsa; Severity: grave; Reported by: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 66 days old. anybody knows what's going on? (I am looking for a MUA that supports IMAP (and SSL)) TIA erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com
Re: [OT] BibTeX style
* On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 09:37:04AM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote:
I don't know of a specific style, but I generally do:
NOTE=Avail: \url{http://foo.bar.baz/foobar.pdf};
Thanks, this works great. I thought it required something more
complicated.
Jesper
Re: how do i find out kernel-image parameters
R. Prabhakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have installed a debian progeny distribution. i want to know if the kernel is compiled with CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY defined. how do i do this? in general is there a way to find out what options have been set in the kernel? Maybe you will have a copy of the config-file in /boot. In mine there is: - $ls /boot | grep config config-2.2.16-storm config-2.4.6 $ Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. James 3:17
Re: Reading .doc files from within Mutt
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:36:19PM +0200, Alexander Steinert wrote: What is the best (simplest) way to read .doc files from within Mutt? /etc/mailcap: application/msword; /usr/bin/antiword '%s'; copiousoutput; description=Microsoft Word Text; nametemplate=%s.doc and (if you want) ~/.vimrc: auto_view application/msword Excellent. That works great and is just what I wanted. Thanks indeed. Mark.
Re: GUI/Wmaker system shutdown app?
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 09:16:50PM +0200, Philipp Lehman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Can't help with a pointer to a dedicated app, but you could at least built a poor man's confirmation in WMRooutMenu: ( Shutdown, EXEC, sure.sh %a(Shutdown,Shutdown now [y/n?]) ...where sure.sh is something like #!/bin/sh if [ $1 = y ]; then sudo shutdown -h now; fi Bingo! That does it. Hmm, you could actually parse that internally. In wmmacros, put somthing like the following: #define CONFIRM_SHUTDOWN(SURE) \ if [ SURE = y ]; then \ sudo shutdown -h now; \ fi And in your menu file: Shutdown SHEXEC CONFIRM_SHUTDOWN(%a(Shutdown,Shutdown now [y/n]?)) This is old-style syntax. Where the hell is the '%a' arguments parameter documented within WindowMaker? I was never aware that it existed. wmaker ships with a couple of menu* (old-style) and plmenu* (new-style) samples. See the sample wmmacros file as well. KDE _would_ be a great desktop, but it isn't currently available in Debian/Stable. I'm likely headed in this direction though long-term. I do think that WMaker plus GMC (for desktop icons for storage a file browser) is a pretty good, simple, desktop. [What about wmaker + kfm?] Mind, my personal preference, as a technical user, is WindowMaker. Now, are we talking about your box or the one you're setting up for your parents? It's cleaner, simpler, saner, stays out of my way. KDE is the Joe-Luser desktop IMO. Not that this is a bad thing, just not my preference. Yeah sure, everbody loves wmaker. But it's a window manager after all and window managers manage windows. They don't even make coffee. -- Philipp Lehman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open Source Statistical Packages?
on Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 12:30:10PM -0300, Henry Lebowzki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Jens Scheidtmann wrote: John Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My normal occupation as a process engineer requires much DOE and SPC work. SAS and others cost tens of thousands of dollars and are not particularly user friendly. Any suggestions for open source? If not, how would I go about getting some people on a band wagon? I'm not a great programmer, but I'd be willing to help. (I'm practicing, but coding in C is not a one night learning experience :)). Look at www.r-project.org and there is a pspp project (spss) somewhere out there. Have a look at sal.kachinatech.com HTH, Jens Hi- ... R is a very powerfull statistics package. You will be able to import your data from SAS, nothing will be lost. R is *the* prefered statistical software by staticians doing research.R implements the S language. Therefore, it is a language and environment for statistical computing. This, of course, implies a learning curve, because implies learning to program in R. This, however, gives you more flexibility and power. Bingos on this. I'm a long-time SAS user myself, if you're looking for raw stats power (think SAS/STAT, SAS/GRAPH, and SAS/IML), R is the answer. It's far more powerful and flexible to boot, though it's also a tad arcane. There's good documentation, both specific to R and for S/S-Plus, on which it's based. I'm one of the instigators behind a project to provide a vaguely SAS-like capability. It's likely to be based around Python, R, and one or more database systems (mysql, postgres, berkleydb,...). Point being largely that there are scripting languages which can add the capabilities provided by the SAS data step, for use in reporting vs. just doing raw stats. Ping me offline if you're interested in more data. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Are these opinions my employer's? Hah! I don't believe them myself! pgpuo5eXRKP3D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dselect forcing recommends?
Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael P. Soulier wrote: Is this a dselect bug? Broken by design. Obviously untrue. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quake 3
* jason pepas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-07-27 01:50): I have been tyring to get Quake3 working recently. I upgraded the kernel to 2.4.7, and included support for AGP and DRI I am running testing, so I have X 4.x I added Load glx Load dri to my X config however, glxinfo reports direct rendering: no I already have Q3 installed, but it fails to start, with the following output: [snipped output] What graphics card do you have? DRI only works with certain cards, others don't need it (like Nvidia cards). Cheers, Sean -- Sean Quinlan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
OT: getservbyname and getservbyport
If I was to change sp = getservbyname (ftp, tcp); to sp = getservbyport (21, tcp); It should work right? Because it isn't. And I need this to work for a boot stiffy I'm building. -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix
Re: Quake 3
Le Vendredi 27 Juillet 2001 02:43, jason pepas a écrit : Hey guys, I have been tyring to get Quake3 working recently. I upgraded the kernel to 2.4.7, and included support for AGP and DRI I am running testing, so I have X 4.x Me too I added Load glx Load dri to my X config Me too :-) however, glxinfo reports direct rendering: no Any ideas? Yes. I got the same problem, and I noticed I forgot the following in my config file : Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection You X server must be running in 16 or 32 bpp for hardware accel. to work (at least on my Matrox G200 graph. card. HTH Yves -- Yves Dessertine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Link between newsgroup linux.debian.user and the debian user mailing list ?
Le Vendredi 27 Juillet 2001 19:25, hzi hzi a écrit : It's not a stupid question. Here's the deal: everything you post via the mailing-list gets posted to the news server. The other way around is not so. That is, you might post via news, but it won't show on the list. At least, that's what happens with the d-u-portuguese list. SO, when I didn't know this, I wouldn't get an answer becasue it was posted via news. The problem is : When I reply to a message ni newsgroups, the person who send the original msg cannot see it if he/she doesn't read the newsgroups. Second question : Can I - Unsubscribe this mailing list (too much mail in my mbox). - Continue reading the messages vie the newsservers - Answer reply to message in THIS mailing list WITHOUT BEEING SUBSCRIBED ? Thanks. -- Yves Dessertine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with interface eth0
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:05:15 +0200 heissu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a ethernet card (3Com). I have compiled the kernel to that ethernet card. I want configure the interface whith the ifconfig command.But when I do: # ifconfig eth0 numIP netmask numNETMASK up , the shell request: SIOCSIFADDR: Unknown device eth0: unknown interface SIOCSIFNETMASK: Unknown device eth0: unknown interface Can anyone help me? Question: What model card are you using and what kernel? I had the same problems with a 3Com 905C-TX because 3Com had done some hardware upgrades and forgotten to document them clearly. This was fixed in kernel 2.2.18, so if you have a 905C-TX and a potato system (that's 2.2.17, right?) you might try upgrading your kernel. Mart -- 'Quoth the mailserver: 554!' pgpsn8Ui7HMlu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Quake 3
Yves Dessertine wrote: You X server must be running in 16 or 32 bpp for hardware accel. to work (at least on my Matrox G200 graph. card. Must be 16 for voodoo cards joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: OT: getservbyname and getservbyport
Danie Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I was to change sp = getservbyname (ftp, tcp); to sp = getservbyport (21, tcp); It should work right? Because it isn't. And I need this to work for a boot stiffy I'm building. The port number is given in network byte order. My guess is you'll need: sp = getservbyport (htonl (21), tcp); Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A NEWBIE inquiry......
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:29:55 -0500 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to share files between Mandrake and Debian, pick a partition to share (such as /dev/hda5), and make sure each distro mounts that partition. For example, if /dev/hda3 is your /home directory in Mandrake, and /dev/hda5 is your /home in Debian, you can use just one, say /dev/hda3, as your /home in both distros. Just change /etc/fstab on the Debian side to mount /home on 3 instead of on 5. (CAVEAT: I vaguely remember that there may be some sort of issue with this type of sharing, but I can't recall what it might be; other list members can perhaps confirm or deny this vague recollection.) You're right, there is one thing to look out for if you share your /home partition: both distro's must use the same numerical user-id. I seem to remember that Debian is the only distro to number them starting from 1000, and that all other distro's start from 500. If Mandrake indeed behaves this way, you're in a world of hurt, otherwise the only issue would be to keep application versions in sync, as they might not like newer config files (for example, the newest xemacs in Debian use a .xemacs directory, whereas older versions just do with a file). Mart -- 'Quoth the mailserver: 554!' pgpR83LKyuFLn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: netscape freeze, additional info
Richard Cobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lo, on Thursday, July 26, Karsten M. Self did write: ObligTelnetBashing: don't use telnet. Remove your telnet daemon. Use SSH for all remote access. Consider removing your telnet client (there's an alternative, whose name I forget, which is useful for establishing connections to various network ports for testing). netcat? Also 'socket'. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting CPU model and speed without rebooting
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 06:29:43AM -0600, Jimmy Richards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, How about trying the 'x86info' program. You should be able to get it apt-get. Then run the command 'x86info -mhz'. Here's what I get from running the command... ...um, what package you got that in? I can't find a package matching 'x86info', and apt-cache search turns up a blank on the term. The x86info package only arrived in unstable quite recently. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CGI isn't working too well
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ #ScriptAlias /~news/ /home/news/public_html/cgi-bin/ ok, maybe it's too easy, but did you try to uncomment the ScriptAlias /~news/ ... line? whith this setting, the url http://your.host/~news/script.cgi will execute /home/news/public_html/cgi-bin/script.cgi . hope it helps. pietro.
Re: A good c++ mailing list
also sprach dude (on Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:24:27PM -0400): Does anyone know of a good c++ mailing list (for beginners,) whatever, if you insist, www.accu.org has a mailing list accu-general, which has very competent people. just be sure not to get on their nerves. if you are a beginner, then don't even think about this mailing list before reading bjarne stroustup's third edition of the c++ programming language *at least* twice!!! martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- warning: dates in calendar are closer than they appear. pgpqrx8V4a7ro.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Off Topic: Mailing Agents?
also sprach Adam Bell (on Wed, 25 Jul 2001 04:04:35PM -0400): Okay, so can anyone tell me what popular (to Debian Users) MUA sends every single message as an attachment to an empty message? as others have said, it's micro$oft's inability to stick to standards --- PGP/GPG nowadays uses MIME for signed and encrypted messages, which mickysoft can't handle... martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- echo '[dO%O+38%O+PO/d00]Fi22os0CC4BA64E418CE7l0xAP'|dc
Re: dselect forcing recommends?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 09:41:42PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: So, I'm in dselect, and it says that icewm-common recommends icepref. Unfortunately, it's not just a recommendation, because it won't resolve the conflict without it selected for install. You can tell dselect not to bother with the recommeded packages, by pressing 'D' and then 'Q' in the dependency resolution screen. 'D' sets the package selections back to your direct selections. 'Q' commits the current selections without further depends checking. 'X' exits, disregarding any changes in selections. If you are confused at any place in dselect, you can always keep hitting 'X' until you are back at the main menu, and no changes will have been made effectively. 'Enter' will do what 'Q' does, but first it checks the dependencies and if there are any unresolved ones found, you are prompted with a new dependency resolution screen. This is also explained more clearly in the help screen that always pops up before the dependency resolution screen and that you can get back to at any moment by pressing the '?' and 'i' keys. Is this a dselect bug? In the sense that you are asking, no. You just need to press 'Q', not 'Enter'. It is a feature. In another sense, it is clumsy at least that this has to be done every time when there is an unresolved recommends: in the active package selections. There are some patches for this, but I don't believe they are in a dselect near you just yet (maybe soon in unstable). Cheers, Joost
Re: Link between newsgroup linux.debian.user and the debian user mailing list ?
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Yves Dessertine wrote: Le Vendredi 27 Juillet 2001 19:25, hzi hzi a écrit : It's not a stupid question. Here's the deal: everything you post via the mailing-list gets posted to the news server. The other way around is not so. That is, you might post via news, but it Hmm... tell whomever set up the damn news gateway to set it up so that replies to the newsgroups are mailed to the mailinglist OR delivered to /dev/null, and it will work in a saner way. Of course, should he screw up and cause a mail loop, the entire news gateway will most probably be forcibly removed from the Debian MLs, and blacklisted. There is very, very little tolerance for misconfigured news gateway AFAIK (due to previous episodes of breakage). - Answer reply to message in THIS mailing list WITHOUT BEEING SUBSCRIBED ? Yes. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh
Re: balsa: orphaned?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 01:58:08AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: (I am looking for a MUA that supports IMAP (and SSL)) mutt is a very good choice, unless you absolutely must have a graphical mailer. It supports most mail protocols and mailbox formats, including IMAP and SSL. -- Kalle Hasselström, [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpStceUKbu4t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie Question
Subject: Re: Newbie Question Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 07:35:10PM -0700 In reply to:Vineet Kumar Quoting Vineet Kumar([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * Wayne Topa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010724 23:11]: uninstall, or Problem is my test version Woody? ^^ woops, I did say Testing.. My bad I do know the diff :-( Dude 2nd time you recommended debfoster. You must be using 'testing' as I can't find it on my slink, potato or woody boxes. He did say he was running woody. erm, woody == testing also, debfoster is in testing (and unstable). That is the 2nd package that I checked for that 'wasn't' on testing when I posted. I had just done an update that AM too. The other was the x86info. I checked for that and also thought it was in 'sid'. Others are reporting it is in 'testing'. As of my update this morning it still isn't? I must be using the wrong sites! ftp1.us.debian http.us.debian.org non-us.debian.org They were very flaky last night so I tried to find the Mirror list at Debian.org. That wasn't much better so I quit trying at midnight. I'll look for better ones today. http://packages.debian.org/testing/admin/debfoster.html for more info. Vineet Thanks for the heads up! Wayne -- In a five year period we can get one superb programming language. Only we can't control when the five year period will begin. ___
Re: dselect question
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 09:55:38PM -0500, Lance Peterson wrote: I selected some a package with dselect and then it automatically selected a *bunch* of dependent packages. Then I decided not to install the original package, but all the other packages it thought were dependent still try and install every time I run dselect even though the original package has been deselected. Oops, you should have pressed 'R' or 'X' instead of 'Enter'. Now you've committed all the selections you made with dselect's interactive package selections management screen. Is there a file somewhere that I can purge that has all the pending for install packages so I can just wipe it out and start fresh again? How about marking the relevant packages for removal or purge in the dselect package selections list? It sounds intuitive enough to me that if you can select packages in dselect, then you can also unselect them. Admittedly, you'll have to look them up in the list, but that is not so hard, and you can play with the 'o' and 'O' keys for sort options if you like. And if you press '?', there is help at any time. When you are finished altering the selections, simply run install. Generally, walking the installed packages list in dselect once in a while and removing packages you don't see a need for, is a good thing. If you happen to try to remove something unexpectedly important, and a large list of packages is marked for subsequent removal in the dependency resolution screen, you can simply undo the removal request and all of the consequences, by pressing 'R' and 'Enter' (or 'Q' or 'X'). Try it. This way, you quickly get to know what packages are on your system for what reason. Cheers, Joost
Re: balsa: orphaned?
Yes balsa is a great program and should not be orphaned and if nobody is interesting in packaging it, I would certainly ITP it soon. Certainly doesn't look like it's been abandoned. This page, http://www.balsa.net/main.html, shows an update on the 13th of this month. It reads: 2001-07-13 - development balsa 1.1.7 released. This is most likely last 1.1.x development release, we intend to start soon preparation for 1.2.0 release. Several improvements in IMAP folder handling has been done, new command line options have been added and other UI improvements have been implemented. Regards Hall
Re: default ispell dictionary
Quoth Ivan Mour?o, Could someone tell me how to change the default ispell dictionary. I don't know if this will help you, as you haven't specified in what context you use ispell, however I have the following in my .emacs (setq ispell-dictionary british) (setq flyspell-default-dictionary british) cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I go, and it is done; the bell invites me. Hear it not, Duncan; for it is a knell That summons thee to heaven or to hell. -- Macbeth
