date:20080720

El Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:47:46 +0200
Marc Aymerich [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Se me ocurre que la solución podria estar en las opciones que se
 escojieron en el momento de compilar el php4-cgi. ¿como podria verlas?
 
 

La manera ortodoxa es llamar a phpinfo() en un fichero que vaya a ser
interpretado por php. Claro que esto necesita que php funcione
correctamente.

Una manera meno elegante puede ser

  /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php4 -i 2/dev/null  info.html

Esto te generará un fichero en html que puedes visualizar fácilmente.

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Re: Expediente X con apache2 + php4-cgi

2008-07-20 Thread Marc Aymerich

Parece que ya he encontrado una solución :)

 Una manera meno elegante puede ser

  /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php4 -i 2/dev/null  info.html

esto me ha dado la idea de usar el binario: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php4 en
vez del que se usaba en el howto en el que me he basado para
configurar el sistema: /usr/bin/php4-cgi
Parece que con este otro binario, a pesar de ser a simple vista iguales:

ls -la /usr/bin/php4-cgi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3215128 2007-05-24 22:54 /usr/bin/php4-cgi

ls -la /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php4
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3215128 2007-05-24 22:54 /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php4

Funciona :). Insisto de nuevo en que usando el /usr/bin/php5-cgi
siempre me ha  funcionado perfectamente :S, esto no tiene ningún
sentido.

saludos y gracias!!
Marc.


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Re: Expediente X con apache2 + php4-cgi

El Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:51:19 +0200
Marc Aymerich [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Parece que con este otro binario, a pesar de ser a simple vista
 iguales:
 
 ls -la /usr/bin/php4-cgi
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3215128 2007-05-24 22:54 /usr/bin/php4-cgi
 
 ls -la /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php4
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3215128 2007-05-24 22:54 /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php4
 
 Funciona :)

Parece que son exactamente iguales, que se usan en situaciones
diferentes. Puedes verlo en los dos primeros párrafos de esta página de
Debian:

http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/php4-cgi

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Re: Postfix + Gmail

2008-07-20 Thread Daniel Bareiro

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El domingo 20 de julio del 2008 a las 01:23:26 -0300,
Carlos Marcelo Cabrera escribió:

 Si bien todo parece funcionar bien autentific=C3=A1ndose via TLS son
 el servidor de Google, parecer=C3=ADa ser que la direcci=C3=B3n que
 escribe = mi cliente de correo Mutt termina modific=C3=A1ndose
 quedando al final la direcci=C3=B3n de correo con la cual se
 autentica mi Postfix con Google, = lo cual puede ser un problema
 especialmente en los casos en que a prop=C3=B3sito configur=C3=A9 mi
 cliente de correo para que cambie el Fro= m de acuerdo al destino del
 correo (por ejemplo, las listas de correo, que por cierto, no
 necesariamente en ellas uso cuentas de Google).
=20
 =C2=BFAlguien tuvo este mismo problema y lo pudo solucionar de alguna
 manera?

 Yo tuve el mismo problema y no lo pude resolver. No creo que se pueda
 resolver sin ya que es pol=C3=ADtica de gmail usar solo los remitentes que
 tienes autenticados como tuyos (puedes agregarlos en la configuraci=C3=B3n
 de tu cuenta de usuario), pero eso no serv=C3=ADa para mi caso donde uso
 muchas direcciones de remitentes y muchas de ellas se crean al vuelo
 por lo que ahora uso el smtp de mi isp.

Parece que se rompió «un poco» lo que me escribiste. Estimo que será
porque como estoy leyendo esto via grupos de noticias, el lector no se
lleva muy bien con los adjuntos :-S Igualmente creo puede ser una buena
práctica, teniendo en cuenta que esta lista se distribuye también a
través de esa manera, firmar los mensajes usando el esquema inline
tradicional.

De todas maneras creo que te entendí. La verdad que es un «problema» la
reescritura del From: que hace Google. Por suerte encontré ya la forma
de hacer mis envios también autenticados por TLS a través del servidor
de correo de GMX y parece funcionar perfectamente sin reescrituras de la
dirección del remitente.

Lo que me está costando es lograr hacer una reescritura de los mensajes
salientes usando expresiones regulares en el sender_canonical de manera
tal que si mandara algún correo desde mi red interna por consola, por
ejemplo,---lo cual me sería especialmente útil para que el daemon
apcupsd me mande las notificaciones de los eventos a una dirección
externa--- salieran usando la dirección válida de GMX. Probé algo así
como:

@*.midomoniointerno [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pero no anduvo. ¿Alguna idea de cúal sería la forma correcta?

Gracias por responder.

Saludos,
Daniel

Saludos,
Daniel

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driver fglrx, cuelgue al cargar el módulo en lenny: 2.6.24-1-686 (caso curioso)

2008-07-20 Thread nx





Buenas, tengo un problema curioso.
Resulta que tengo una ati Mobility Radeon X1400 256 MB y corriendo en
un sistema Debian Lenny con kernel: 2.6.24-1-686.
Tengo instalados los siguientes paquetes

ii fglrx-atieventsd
1:8-6-2 external events daemon for the
non-free AMD/
ii fglrx-driver
1:8-6-2 non-free AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display
driver
ii fglrx-glx
1:8-6-2 proprietary libGL for the non-free
AMD/ATI r
ii fglrx-kernel-src
1:8-6-2 kernel module source for the non-free
AMD/AT
ii fglrx-source
1:8-6-2 kernel module source for the non-free
AMD/AT

y el modulo fglrx compilado por mi a travs del paquete:
fglrx-kernel-src, sin usar module assitant.
La configuracin de Xorg es: (os pongo solo las secciones relevantes)

Section "Module"
 Load "dbe"
 Load "i2c"
 Load "bitmap"
 Load "ddc"
 Load "dri"
 Load "extmod"
 Load "freetype"
 Load "glx"
 Load "int10"
 Load "vbe"
 Load "ati"
EndSection

Section "Device"
 Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]"
 Driver "fglrx"
 VideoRam 262144
 Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
 Option "OpenGLOverlay" "on"
 Option "AGPMode" "8"
 Option "GARTSize" "256"
 Option "EnablePageFlip" "true"
 Option "ColorTiling" "true"
 Option "EnableDepthMoves" "true"
 Option "BackingStore" "true"
 Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
 Option "AccelIDFS" "true"
 Option "UseFBDev" "true"
 Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
 Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
 #Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True"
 Option "AddARGBVisuals" "True"
 BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection


el caso es que es curioso porque cuando est todo bien instalado con
el modulo cargado y todo, al reiniciar las X se me queda congelado,
osea que no vuelve a iniciar GDM, ni me da error de X, ni nada,
simplemente tengo que reiniciar y descargar el mdulo y ya funciona.
Lo que me parece curioso es que en Xorg:
Driver "fglrx"
carga el mdulo fglrx pero no lo tengo cargado, y en ocasiones ha
estado borrado y todo
He estado leyendo documentacin y no encuentro nada al respecto, he
bajado los ltimos drivers en la pagina oficial de ati y los he
instalado siguiendo diversos manuales y siempre obtengo el mismo
resultado.
Haber si me podeis dar solucin porque ya no se que mas hacer.
Un saludo y muchas gracias.







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Re: Duda con k3b

2008-07-20 Thread Cuenta de publicidad

Graba en modo SAO y especifica configuración de codificación DOS


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Agregar squid

2008-07-20 Thread Julián Esteban Perconti

Hola listeros tengo en un lan una pc viejita con debian etch kernel 
2.6.18 haciendo de router con iptables, dhcp y bind.
Mi idea es agregar un squid, pero no en esta maquina si no en otra que 
tiene el mismo debian, antes que nada quiero decirles que no hay 
necesidad es solo para tratar de ampliar un poco mis conocimientos.
Bueno la pc-router, actualmente tiene 2 nics eth0 esta conectada al 
modem adsl, y eth1 a la lan, bien mi idea es conectar eth0 de la futura 
pc-webcache en eth1 de la pc-router y de eth1 pc-webcahce a la lan. 
Anoche hice esto mismo que les cuento con un cable utp cruzado, le 
asigne ips a las nics de pc-webcache, etc, hice un masquerade y active 
el forwarding de la pc webcache pero en vez de -o ppp0 fue -o eth0 y 
bueno las pc's clientes nada, no podian navegar, no obtenian ip del 
dhcp, etc.


Lo que no estoy teniendo bien claro es la configuracion ip de ambas, yo 
lo hice asi:


pc 1 router:
eth0 manual (pppoeconf, el ifconfig dice que no tiene ip, en 
/etc/network/interfaces esta: iface eth0 inet manual
eth1 static (conectado actualmente a la lan, ip 192.168.0.1, 
255.255.255.240 netmask, 192.168.0.14 bcast, etc)


pc 2 webcache:

eth0 dhcp 192.168.0.7
eth1 static 192.168.0.10.

y nada funciona, creo que mi problema viene por la configuracion de eth1 
pc 1 y eth0 pc 2, no se como deberia ser la configuracion, o asi esta bien?
Bueno espero haberme explicado bien, cualquier ayudita, o sugerencia es 
bienvenida, gracias de antemano a todos.

Saludos.


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Re: Remover evolution sin que afecte a gnome

2008-07-20 Thread Cosme Domínguez Díaz

La solución es muy simple:

Usa *apt-get remove* en vez de *aptitude remove*

Y si quieres eliminar los archivos de configuración usa *apt-get purge* en
vez de *aptitude purge*

De todas formas siempre puedes recurrir a *man apt-get* y *man aptitude*

Re: Iceweasel siempre inicia sin conexión

2008-07-20 Thread David Francos (XayOn)

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Carlos Eduardo Velásquez Chaves wrote:
 dayer escribió:
 2008/7/16 Carlos Eduardo Velásquez Chaves
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Estoy usando Debian testing con Iceweasel 3.0 Y tengo un
 pequeño problema: Cada vez que abro el navegador, inicia pero
 activada la casilla Trabajar sin conexión Tengo que ir a Menu
 Archivo y desmarcar la casilla, a alguno le ha pasado? Saben
 como corregir esto?

 Saludos...


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 Hola! A mi me pasó eso los otros días con el portátil. En
 esDebian leí que dicen que es culpa del Network Manager, ese
 applet que es posible que tengas que trata de establecer conexión
 con la interfaz que le digas, que cuando está desactivada la red
 en él, porque por ejemplo te hayas hartado de que te configure
 automáticamente la red, es cuando abres Iceweasel y se marca lo
 de trabajar sin conexión. Yo lo veo como una imitación de la mala
 costumbre de los Windows de estropar todas las conexiones
 pendientes cuando se cae la red a la que estás conectado.

 Puedes probar la solución que dan en esDebian:
 http://www.esdebian.org/foro/25003/iceweasel-se-abre-trabajar-sin-conexion



 A ver si hay suerte

 Gracias Gayer,

 De hecho tengo una ip stática, tengo dos tarjetas de red pero solo
 una conectada a la red, y el network-manager me dice Sin conexión
 a red Pero si tengo conexión por medio de la eth1 la eth0 no está
 configurada. Creo que la cosa anda por ahí, ahora bien como hago
 para cambiar esta situación?

Yo odio network-manager, asi que simplemente desactive el applet de la
barra de tareas de gnome, y borre network-manager y
network-manager-dispatcher del inicio
update-rc.d -f network-manager remove
update-rc.d -f network-manager-dispatcher remove

Creo que no me dejo nada (Puede que el applet este puesto en las
sesiones de gnome para comenzar al inicio )

Ten en cuenta que tendras que configurar la red a mano, pero contando
que tienes ip estática ¿Para que te sirve no hacerlo? ;)
(network-manager hace un buen trabajo con /etc/network/interfaces )

Yo soluccione todos los problemas derivados de gnome usando ion3 en el
portatil, es ideal, completamente funcional y manejable desde teclado,
asi no andas con el touchpad y puedes utilizarlo en cualquier
situacion :) (Y va muy muy lijero)
 Saludos...
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Apache2 'worker' y soporte mysql para php

2008-07-20 Thread Marc Aymerich

Buenas compañeros,
me encuentro con que no soy capaz de dar soporte mysql al php 4 y 5
que tengo instalados como cgi's. El entorno esta compuesto por un
apache2-mpm ' worker', fastcgi, suexec, php4, php5 y MySQL5. La
complicación está en que no puedo instalar el clasico 'php4-mysql' ya
que al hacerlo apt-get me quiere borrar todo el entorno que os he
comentado, me imagino que php4-mysql solo es compatible cuando usas el
php como modulo del apache. Mirad :P

apt-get install php4-mysql
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libio-compress-base-perl pwgen php-net-url ttf-dejavu-extra
smbclient ttf-dejavu-core rrdtool php-net-smtp php-net-dime
  php-mail libarchive-zip-perl libapr1 librrd2 php-net-socket
php-cache libjs-prototype php-services-weather php5-gd
  libfreetype6 libc-client2007 php-mail-mime php-xml-serializer
libmcrypt4 samba-common php-pear tinymce2 php-db libt1-5
  libjs-scriptaculous perl-suid libcompress-zlib-perl
fontconfig-config mlock libfile-rsyncp-perl libxpm4
  libcompress-raw-zlib-perl php-log libgd2-xpm php5-mcrypt ttf-dejavu
php5-imap wwwconfig-common php-xml-parser php-date
  php-soap libio-compress-zlib-perl php-xml-util libpq5 python-support
libart-2.0-2 libfontconfig1 php5-mysql php5-cli
  php-net-ftp defoma php-mail-mimedecode javascript-common php-file
libltdl3 php-http-request
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  apache2-mpm-worker apache2-suexec-custom apache2-utils
apache2.2-common backuppc fckeditor horde3 imp4
  libapache2-mod-auth-pam libapache2-mod-fcgid libaprutil1 mailman
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  php4-mysql
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 12 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/20.6kB of archives.
After this operation, 94.9MB disk space will be freed.


¿que puedo hacer? ¿instalo el php4-mysql y el php5-mysql y luego
reinstalo todos los paquetes que apt-get me ha borrado?

saludos,
marc.


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Re: Apache2 'worker' y soporte mysql para php

El Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:09:29 +0200
Marc Aymerich [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Buenas compañeros,
 me encuentro con que no soy capaz de dar soporte mysql al php 4 y 5
 que tengo instalados como cgi's. El entorno esta compuesto por un
 apache2-mpm ' worker', fastcgi, suexec, php4, php5 y MySQL5. La
 complicación está en que no puedo instalar el clasico 'php4-mysql' ya
 que al hacerlo apt-get me quiere borrar todo el entorno que os he
 comentado, me imagino que php4-mysql solo es compatible cuando usas el
 php como modulo del apache.

No, no es ese el problema.

 Mirad :P
 
 apt-get install php4-mysql
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
 required: libio-compress-base-perl pwgen php-net-url ttf-dejavu-extra
 smbclient ttf-dejavu-core rrdtool php-net-smtp php-net-dime
   php-mail libarchive-zip-perl libapr1 librrd2 php-net-socket
 php-cache libjs-prototype php-services-weather php5-gd
   libfreetype6 libc-client2007 php-mail-mime php-xml-serializer
 libmcrypt4 samba-common php-pear tinymce2 php-db libt1-5
   libjs-scriptaculous perl-suid libcompress-zlib-perl
 fontconfig-config mlock libfile-rsyncp-perl libxpm4
   libcompress-raw-zlib-perl php-log libgd2-xpm php5-mcrypt ttf-dejavu
 php5-imap wwwconfig-common php-xml-parser php-date
   php-soap libio-compress-zlib-perl php-xml-util libpq5 python-support
 libart-2.0-2 libfontconfig1 php5-mysql php5-cli
   php-net-ftp defoma php-mail-mimedecode javascript-common php-file
 libltdl3 php-http-request
 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   apache2-mpm-worker apache2-suexec-custom apache2-utils
 apache2.2-common backuppc fckeditor horde3 imp4
   libapache2-mod-auth-pam libapache2-mod-fcgid libaprutil1 mailman
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
   php4-mysql
 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 12 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0B/20.6kB of archives.
 After this operation, 94.9MB disk space will be freed.
 
 
 ¿que puedo hacer? ¿instalo el php4-mysql y el php5-mysql y luego
 reinstalo todos los paquetes que apt-get me ha borrado?
 

No creo que te funcione: acabas de encontrar un problema de
dependencias. php4-mysql no es compatible con la versión actual de
libaprutil1 en testing (y tal vez con otros), que a su vez es
necesario, directa o indirectamente, para tener instalado todos aquellos
que apt-get te pretende borrar. Esto se considera un error serio en
Debian y lo correcto sería enviar un informe de fallo sobre el paquete:

http://bugs.debian.org


 saludos,
 marc.
 
 

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Re: Apache2 'worker' y soporte mysql para php

El Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:37:28 +0200
Manolo Díaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Esto se considera un error
 serio en Debian y lo correcto sería enviar un informe de fallo sobre
 el paquete

Disculpad, me he dado cuenta tarde de la tontería que he escrito :( .
Esto no es un error serio en Debian; el sistema de dependencia se porta
como debe: si dos paquetes son incompatibles (en este caso por el
número de versión) impide que se instalen a la vez.

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Re: Duda con k3b

2008-07-20 Thread publix

Un amigo tuvo problemas con k3b y un reproductor CD/MP3 marca Alpine. 
Claro que usaba la versión ubuntu y no puedo decirte detalladamente como lo 
configuré, pues yo tengo etch, pero te recomiendo:

grabar en Modo1, nivel ISO 1, sin multisesión y DAO si es que no puedes usar 
SAO; evita nombres largos o raros y cosas como joilet; si te da la opción de 
especificar codificación del sistema destino dile que DOS, etc. Más que nada 
escoger las opciones más básicas.

Saludos.


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Re: Iceweasel siempre inicia sin conexión

2008-07-20 Thread andres felipe uran cano

El día 17 de julio de 2008 1:16, Cosme Domínguez Díaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:

 andres felipe uran cano - consulta esto:
 http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/sistemas-mixtos


gracias :P muy util

pero  esto no afectara mi sistema ps lo ara inestable o vulnerable??
gracias de nuevo

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[Fwd: Re: Compilando kernel.]

2008-07-20 Thread Darwin Medina


Disculpa toma tarde el hilo de la conversacion...

Porque deses compilar el kernel...

---BeginMessage---
Por ahora lo màs importante (no he encontrado la respuesta), es que no
se si mi pentium es pentium I type, MMX o Pro.
Alguien sabe como saber esto?
Es una pentium 233, pero no sè màs que eso.
Saludos!

El 18/07/08, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 Siguiendo el consejo de esta misma lista (y apelando a su culpa en
 esta frase) me he puesto a compilar el kernel. Luego de algunos
 problemas que he logrado solucionar en la noche de ayer, encuentro que
 corriendo el make menuconfig tengo un montón de opciones que no tengo
 ni la màs mìnima idea de qué signican.
 Pego acá de que se trata mi hardware para ver si alguien me ayuda.
 Lo que necsito:
 Correr ssh, samba, alsa y un x. Tengo un teclado ps/2, un mosue igual,
 una grabadora de cd, disco ATA 100, disquetera 3 1/2 y un PI 233.

 También

 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 430HX - 82439HX TXC [Triton II]
 (rev 03)
 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 ISA [Natoma/Triton
 II] (rev 01)
 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 IDE
 [Natoma/Triton II]00:09.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies
 Inc 264VT [Mach64 VT] (rev 40)
 00:13.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06)
 00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)

 Proximamente también pondrè una placa usb y una impresora en el puerto
 paralelo.

 Desde ya muchas gracias.
 Saludos!




 Las imagenes de kernel por defecto en Debian funcionan bastante bien y
 si de verdad no sabes bien qué hacer con lo que te sale con menu_config
 entonces es mejor que no te compiles tu solo el kernel, ¿por qué? porque
 lo mismo te quedas con un sistema sin que arranque.

 De todos modos si te interesa aprender como hacerlo hay guias que te
 enseñan a hacerlo paso a paso pero es necesario que conozcas bien tu
 hardware.

 La verdad es que antes configurar el kernel a gusto de cada uno era más
 facil con la rama 2.2. y la 2.4... Ahora hay tanto hardware soportado y
 tantas opciones que para alguien que nunca lo ha visto es un mundo.

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duda con intel centrino dUO

2008-07-20 Thread Felix Perez

Hola amigos, me asalta la siguiente duda ¿que kernel debo ponerle a un
intel centrino duo t2400 de 1,83 ghz?

he probado con el 2.6.24...i686 y 2.6.25i686, y me muestra las dos
cpus, pero la verdad es que el sistema no muy bien, tengo problemas
con virtualbox ose, con qemu, estos programas cargan muy lento y no
los hace funcionales, al revisar con htop me muestra que una cpu esta
al 100% casi todo el tiempo.
Cambie por un kernel 2.6.24i486 y el resultado fue el mismo, solo
que me mostraba una sola cpu al 100%.  Uso testing.

Estoy por pensar que es un problema de la maquina, un notebook
hp-compaq nc6400 con 1gb de ram.

Como referencia en otro notebook un dell inspiron 1300 con celeron 1,4
ghz, 1,25gb de ram y mi debian testing anda muy bien con el kernel
2.6.24...i686

De antemano gracias.
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Re: Installation i Uppsala

2008-07-20 Thread Helgi Örn

Den den 20 juli 2008 02:20 skrev Björn Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Jag bor inte heller i Uppsala och har ej möjlighet att pendla dit i
 dagsläget, men för att kunna hjälpa till litegrann på traven här så kan jag
 rekommendera Ubuntus forum som har snabb och bra support, faktiskt! Hittas
 här:  http://ubuntuforums.org/

 Dom kanske kan hjälpa honom via distans på nåt sätt?

 Väljer han Debian så finns det ju en Debian Wiki som också erbjuder mycket
 bra dokumentation:  http://wiki.debian.org/

 Hur pass datorkunnig är den här mannen? Klarar han av att bränna skivor och
 tanka ner ISO image filer?

 /Björn, Debian användare(och buggtestare periodvis) sedan -99

Han behöver hjälp på plats pga att han inte har någon som helst
kunskap om det som behöver göras. Hans nuvarande system är ingen
standard installation heller så det kräver en del kunskaper bygga om
det hela.

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Re: Installation i Uppsala

2008-07-20 Thread Karl Hammar

Björn:
 Tore Ericsson wrote:
  torsdag 17 juli 2008 00.51.37 skrev Helgi Örn Helgason:
...
  En man i Uppsala har kontaktat mig för hjälp med installation av linux.
...
  Har själv introducerat Kubuntu på laptop till en vanlig användare, se 
  http://www.tores.se/toretank/ubuntu-foer-en-vanlig-anvaendare 
...
 Jag bor inte heller i Uppsala och har ej möjlighet att pendla dit i 
 dagsläget, men för att kunna hjälpa till litegrann på traven här så kan 
 jag rekommendera Ubuntus forum som har snabb och bra support, faktiskt! 
 Hittas här:  http://ubuntuforums.org/
 
 Dom kanske kan hjälpa honom via distans på nåt sätt?
 
 Väljer han Debian så finns det ju en Debian Wiki som också erbjuder 
 mycket bra dokumentation:  http://wiki.debian.org/

Jag håller till i Uppsala, förmedlar info till honom.

Hälsningar,
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Só um usuário do Gnome tem som

Olá,

São quatro os usuários em uma máquina, mas apenas um tem som no Gnome.

Exemplificando:

Usuário (1) - com som
(2) - sem
(3) - sem
(4) - sem

Uso o Gnome como usuário (2), abro um terminal como root e executo
alsaconf, alsamixer, alsactl store. Este usuário passa a ter som.

Saio do usuário (2) e entro como usuário (1) e percebo que este não
mais consegue usar o som que ele conseguia antes.

Saio do (1) e entro no (2) e este não mais consegue usar o som.


Alguma luz, para este irritante problema?

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Velox com conexão ruim depois do Amule

Olá,

Instalei o Amule. Quando funcionava com LowID a internet estava a mil
maravilhas. Para ser classificado como HighID, abri as portas do modem
Velox e do roteador. A partir de então a conexão ficou uma droga.

É possível ser HighID e a conexão ficar pelo menos ruim? Do jeito que
está não é possível mandar uma mensagem com um anexo de 2Mb!

P.S. a conexão tem velocidade de 4 megas.

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Re: [Erro Conhecido GTK] Gadmin-Proftpd falha a guardar definições

2008-07-20 Thread debiminho debiminho

Obrigado Wilson,

Pelo log apenas me mostra que ele corre como root, já que o tenho de chamar com
o sudo...

Até já
Silvino

2008/7/20 Wilson Felipe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Pode ser. Você viu o os logs já??
 Executa ele, e abre outro terminal e dá o comando: tail -f /var/log/syslog
 Dae na hora que da esse erro, você vê no outro terminal qual o erro que vai
 acusar.


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 Assunto: [Erro Conhecido GTK] Gadmin-Proftpd falha a guardar definições

 Olá,

 Peço desculpas pelo antigo post pois pensava que o erro era devido ao
 GTK devido
 ao output gerado na consola quando corria sudo gadmin-proftpd.
 Verfirifiquei que o
 problema não o era pois o Gadmin-Samba funciona sem problemas.

 O Gadmin-Proftpd funciona até ao momento em que eu aceite:
 Do you want to overwrite proftpd.conf with GADMIN-PROFTPD's
 default configuration ?

 Depois disto deixa de funcionar. Se eu não responder e apenas fechar a
 janela com
 a mensagem deixa que eu explore a interface gráfica mas não me deixa
 guardar
 qualquer alteração que eu faça apartir dela, saindo e nunca mais funciona.

 Penso que o problema poderá estar nas permissões de utilizador, será ?

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Re: Só um usuário do Gnome tem som

2008-07-20 Thread debiminho debiminho

2008/7/20 Sávio Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Olá,

 São quatro os usuários em uma máquina, mas apenas um tem som no Gnome.

 Exemplificando:

 Usuário (1) - com som
(2) - sem
(3) - sem
(4) - sem

 Uso o Gnome como usuário (2), abro um terminal como root e executo
 alsaconf, alsamixer, alsactl store. Este usuário passa a ter som.

 Saio do usuário (2) e entro como usuário (1) e percebo que este não
 mais consegue usar o som que ele conseguia antes.

 Saio do (1) e entro no (2) e este não mais consegue usar o som.


 Alguma luz, para este irritante problema?

 Grato.
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Olá,

O problema deve ter a ver com as permissões dos utilizadores em utilizar os
dispositivos de áudio. Para verificar vá até ao menu superior do gnome,

Sistema » Administração » Utilizadores e Grupos

Seleccione uma conta de cada vez de todos aqueles que não tem som e em seguida
clique no separador Privilégios do Utilizador e seleccione a opção
Utilizar dispositivos
de áudio.

Abraço
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Re: Só um usuário do Gnome tem som

2008-07-20 Thread Gustavo Goulart

vc tem que adicionar todos os usuarios no grupo audio /etc/group...

audio:x:29:usuario1,usuario2,...

##
# Gustavo V. Goulart #
# Linux Debian Sarge #
##


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 De: Sávio Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Assunto: Só um usuário do Gnome tem som
 Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Data: Domingo, 20 de Julho de 2008, 8:05
 Olá,
 
 São quatro os usuários em uma máquina, mas apenas um tem
 som no Gnome.
 
 Exemplificando:
 
 Usuário   (1) - com som
   (2) - sem
   (3) - sem
   (4) - sem
 
 Uso o Gnome como usuário (2), abro um terminal como root e
 executo
 alsaconf, alsamixer, alsactl store. Este usuário passa a
 ter som.
 
 Saio do usuário (2) e entro como usuário (1) e percebo
 que este não
 mais consegue usar o som que ele conseguia antes.
 
 Saio do (1) e entro no (2) e este não mais consegue usar o
 som.
 
 
 Alguma luz, para este irritante problema?
 
 Grato.
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Re: Só um usuário do Gnome tem som

Em Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:57:46 +0100
debiminho debiminho [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Seleccione uma conta de cada vez de todos aqueles que não tem som e
 em seguida clique no separador Privilégios do Utilizador e seleccione
 a opção Utilizar dispositivos
 de áudio.

Isto já estava selecionado quando relatei o problema.

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mutt + fetchmail + exim4

2008-07-20 Thread caio abreu ferreira

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Por acaso alguém teria um texto ou link sobre a configuraćão dos 
softwares
mutt + fetchmail + exim4?

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Re: Só um usuário do Gnome tem som

2008-07-20 Thread hamacker

Existe um bug com o gdm, quando voce coloca sons em alguns eventos e poe
também eventos no GNOME o som simplesmente deixa de funcionar, para
verificar se é isso vá num usuario que nao tem som e depois em
preferencias-som e desabilite a opção habilitar mixagem por software
(ESD).

Apenas como teste.

2008/7/20 Sávio Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Em Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:57:46 +0100
 debiminho debiminho [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  Seleccione uma conta de cada vez de todos aqueles que não tem som e
  em seguida clique no separador Privilégios do Utilizador e seleccione
  a opção Utilizar dispositivos
  de áudio.

 Isto já estava selecionado quando relatei o problema.

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Re: Velox com conexão ruim depois do Amule

2008-07-20 Thread Guilherme Rocha

Oi Sávio,

eu não sou especialista em aMule, mas recomendo que vc limite a
velocidade de upload nas preferências do sistema, deixando algo tipo
5k, bem baixo mesmo, para n comprometer a sua conexão.

O mesmo serviria para os downloads, mas este fica a seu critério.


abs,


Guilherme


2008/7/20 Sávio Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Olá,

 Instalei o Amule. Quando funcionava com LowID a internet estava a mil
 maravilhas. Para ser classificado como HighID, abri as portas do modem
 Velox e do roteador. A partir de então a conexão ficou uma droga.

 É possível ser HighID e a conexão ficar pelo menos ruim? Do jeito que
 está não é possível mandar uma mensagem com um anexo de 2Mb!

 P.S. a conexão tem velocidade de 4 megas.

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Re: Só um usuário do Gnome tem som

Em Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:01:26 -0300
hamacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Existe um bug com o gdm, quando voce coloca sons em alguns eventos e
 poe também eventos no GNOME o som simplesmente deixa de funcionar,
 para verificar se é isso vá num usuario que nao tem som e depois em
 preferencias-som e desabilite a opção habilitar mixagem por software
 (ESD).

Funcionou.

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Re: Velox com conexão ruim depois do Amule

2008-07-20 Thread Frederico Martins

o meu além de não consegui navegar direito o sistema fica lento , com
torrent fica normal.




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Re: Só um usuário do Gnome tem som

2008-07-20 Thread hamacker

OK.
Apenas o evento tela de inicio de sessão do GDM pode ser configurada para
tocar algum som, para tocar os demais voce não pode estar usando eventos de
som do gnome que tenha a ver com inicio/termino de sessão senão dá o bug
ocorrido;

Se voce puder ratificar o bug em :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/245833

encorajaria o pessoal corrigir este bug chato.

2008/7/20 Sávio Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Em Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:01:26 -0300
 hamacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  Existe um bug com o gdm, quando voce coloca sons em alguns eventos e
  poe também eventos no GNOME o som simplesmente deixa de funcionar,
  para verificar se é isso vá num usuario que nao tem som e depois em
  preferencias-som e desabilite a opção habilitar mixagem por software
  (ESD).

 Funcionou.

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Re: Só um usuário do Gnome tem som

2008-07-20 Thread Thiago Silveira Alexandre

eu tive problemas com som no meu gnome e resolveu com uma dica colocada por
alguem em um dos e-mails acima, de que era soh colocar o usuario no grupo
audio

2008/7/20 hamacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 OK.
 Apenas o evento tela de inicio de sessão do GDM pode ser configurada para
 tocar algum som, para tocar os demais voce não pode estar usando eventos de
 som do gnome que tenha a ver com inicio/termino de sessão senão dá o bug
 ocorrido;

 Se voce puder ratificar o bug em :
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/245833

 encorajaria o pessoal corrigir este bug chato.

 2008/7/20 Sávio Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Em Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:01:26 -0300

 hamacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  Existe um bug com o gdm, quando voce coloca sons em alguns eventos e
  poe também eventos no GNOME o som simplesmente deixa de funcionar,
  para verificar se é isso vá num usuario que nao tem som e depois em
  preferencias-som e desabilite a opção habilitar mixagem por software
  (ESD).

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[not about debian] Could someone give me a clue about making a window manager?

2008-07-20 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds


I want to make a simple WM, but do not know where to start.

Thanks.


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Re: Help filing bug report; can't use automated tool, does this report look OK?

2008-07-20 Thread Celejar

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:57:52 +0300
Arthur A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...

 Briefly, what happens is the 'X' randomly crashes without warning, and it is 
 irrecoverable. Any open work is lost. A reboot is required. There is an error 
 in 
 the xorg.log about rng expecting one number, getting another, then fatal 
 server 
 error.
 
 Here is the bug report I want to file, you comments are appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 AA
 =
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: xserver-xorg-video-intel causes X to crash irrecoverably and without 
 warning (fatal server error: lockup)
 Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel
 Version: 2:2.3.2-2
 Severity: important
 
 Seemingly at random, and infrequently, X will crash and I will often lose all 
 open work. After a number of attempts to automatically restart I will be 
 given a 
 message saying that X has crashed and cannot be restarted. Switching to a 
 different terminal killing all Xsessions and GDM and attempting to restart 
 them 
 does not work. A reboot is seemingly required.
 
 Adding the option NoDRI to xorg.conf appears to prevent this from 
 happening? 
 This is not a good option for me as suspend/resume does not work with this 
 option enabled.
 
 It occurs infrequently, perhaps once every 30 or 40 hours of use, and I have 
 been unable to find any pattern. I believe iceweasel has been open for all 
 crashes, though this has occured over an upgrade to version 3.0, and has also 
 persisted over recent updates to xorg and the intel driver.
 
 The xorg.log seems to contain a relevant and hopefully useful error at the 
 end 
 of the log.
 
 I set the severity to important because it currently causes a loss of data.
 
 Please advise if I can provide more information. Reportbug was not working 
 for 
 me and I have filed this manually.
 
 Below you will find my xorg.log, xorg.conf, kernel version, libc version. I 
 am 
 running Lenny.
 
 Regards,
 AA
 
 # 
 # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
 # 

...

[This is where the reports related to the bug begin.]

 Error in I830WaitLpRing(), timeout for 2 seconds
 pgetbl_ctl: 0x3ffc0001 getbl_err: 0x0003
 ipeir: 0x iphdr: 0x7d06
 LP ring tail: 0xe490 head: 0xe49c len: 0x0001f001 start 0x
 eir: 0x esr: 0x0010 emr: 0x
 instdone: 0xfa41 instpm: 0x
 memmode: 0x010f instps: 0x800f04c4
 hwstam: 0xfffe ier: 0x0002 imr: 0x iir: 0x0070
 Ring at virtual 0xa782f000 head 0xe49c tail 0xe490 count 32765

...

 Ring end
 space: 4 wanted 32
 (II) intel(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
 (II) intel(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xf8d41000 at 0xb7ef3000
 (II) intel(0): [drm] Closed DRM master.
 
 Fatal server error:
 lockup

...

I have reported a version of this to upstream (as per a request by one of the 
DDs in a similar bug log:

http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16262

See also:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=465694
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432110

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Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-20 Thread Bob Cox

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:34:56 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 

 On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
  On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
  Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
  wrote: 
 
  Name names!  I bet other people would like to use that ISP.
  Well, I thought you would have worked it out from the headers ;-)
 
  I use Zen Internet www.zen.co.uk  - although there several other UK ISPs
  offering static IP, rDNS etc - http://aaisp.net/ and
  http://www.ukfsn.org spring to mind.
  
  I'm confused; neither this message nor your previous one in this thread
  contains any header mentioning zen.
 
 That's right.  Straight from gaia.bobcox.net to liszt.debian.org.

I'm sorry!  But I thought you guys were geeks and could do the detective
work ;-)

You found the right line:

Received: from gaia.bobcox.net (gaia.bobcox.net [82.71.52.122])
by liszt.debian.org

gaia.bobcox.net [82.71.52.122] is me.  82.71.52.122 is my static IP,
provided by the good people at Zen.

$ whois 82.71.52.122  should give you the information.

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Re: [not about debian] Could someone give me a clue about making a window manager?

On Sunday 20 July 2008 09:04, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
 I want to make a simple WM, but do not know where to start.

Look at the dependencies of the x-window-manager virtual package. Look at the 
sources of the simple ones.


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Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Jim McCloskey


An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me
Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is
just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in
the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scrolling through:

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/thrd4.html

is like wading through thick, thick mud. When one moves from screen to
screen, iceweasel/firefox takes about 7 or 8 seconds to redraw its
window. It's really unusable.

Is anyone else seeing this?

Epiphany behaves similarly, but Konqueror and Mozilla are wonderfully
fast, suggesting that the problem (whatever it is) lies with Gecko.

This last suspicion was confirmed when I installed epiphany-webkit and
called it explicitly. It was just as fast as Konqueror and Mozilla.

Upgrading to 3.0.1 in unstable makes matters, if anything, worse.

Downgrading to version 2.0 in stable restores normal speed and usability.

The problem is the same in the binary version available directly from 
mozilla.org.

sigh

Jim


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Which graph tool is used for the release-critical bugs graph?

2008-07-20 Thread Gerhard Horecky

Dear *,

I want to produce charts from time series like the rc bug graph in
http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/.
I think the same tool is used for the popcon graphics.

Can anybody give me please a hint which debian package is used for that?

Many thanks in advance
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Re: Which graph tool is used for the release-critical bugs graph?

2008-07-20 Thread Jochen Schulz

Gerhard Horecky:
 
 I want to produce charts from time series like the rc bug graph in
 http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/.
 I think the same tool is used for the popcon graphics.
 
 Can anybody give me please a hint which debian package is used for that?

It's most probably gnuplot.

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Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread andy


Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

andy wrote:

Greetings

The following is one of a number of sites (including, for example, 
parts of the NASA site) where I am told that my version of Flash 
Player is outdated: You need the latest Flash Player plugin to view 
the multimedia content of this site.
http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/environment/global-warming/gw-impacts-interactive.html 



I thought that I actually had the latest, but apparently not.

Has anyone else had this problem and what is the optimal fix, because 
I seem to remember that there was a clash between versions I used to 
have.




WFM: flashplayer-mozilla 9.0.124.0-0.0 + Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 
i686; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008062910 Iceweasel/3.0 (Debian-3.0~rc2-2)


Hugo


I have the latest version of Lenny's flashplayer-mozilla installed and, 
following Nuno's suggestion, closed IW and ran dpkg-reconfigure 
iceweasel. This still hasn't worked however.


I wonder if this conflicts with having gone to the flash site and 
downloaded the flash-player 9 installer, and installed it using dpkg?


Andy

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debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Bruno Voigt

I'm currently not able to start iceweasel

ii  iceweasel   
3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
ii  iceweasel-gnome-support 
3.0.1-1 Support for GNOME in Iceweasel

Same result as with 3.0~rc2-2 0:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel
Segmentation fault

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel -safe
Segmentation fault

System ist debian/unstable uptodate.

On other debian/unstable systems it still works.

Could it be caused by other packages/plugin?

How to debug the cause?

TIA + WR,
Bruno






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Image created by simple-cdd work in qemu but not in real life

2008-07-20 Thread Jabka Atu

Howdy,...

I created an image using simple-cdd and tested in qemu.
It worked fine (all went as it should).

When i burn it on a cd and reboot from it :
the image stuck saying :
Uncompressing Linux... OK,booting the kernel

if i press alt+f4 i can see the logs (but can't see any errors).
alt+f2/f3 allow shell (ash)

i also tried manualy starting d-i but i don't know yet how to use simple-cdd
configurations :
so it will use presed postinst etc from /cdrom/simple-cdd

What am i doing wrong ?

Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Alex Samad

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:40:32AM +0200, Bruno Voigt wrote:
 I'm currently not able to start iceweasel
 
 ii  iceweasel   
 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
 ii  iceweasel-gnome-support 
 3.0.1-1 Support for GNOME in Iceweasel
 
 Same result as with 3.0~rc2-2 0:
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel
 Segmentation fault
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel -safe
 Segmentation fault
 
 System ist debian/unstable uptodate.
 
 On other debian/unstable systems it still works.
 
 Could it be caused by other packages/plugin?
 
 How to debug the cause?

i used to get a lot of these
/var/log/syslog.1.gz:Jul 18 18:10:56 hufpuf kernel: [177553.451240]
firefox-bin[12653]: segfault at 7fffa6db3b58 ip 7f029e9676a3 sp
7fffa6db3b60 error 6 in libc-2.7.so[7f029e929000+14a000]

till i upgraded to
3.0.1-1


 
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Module compilation

2008-07-20 Thread Rodolfo Medina

I'm following this guide:

 
http://www.debianclan.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=154Itemid=38

.  At the step where I do:

 # make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd`

, the system complains that the above path is not found: in fact no file or
directory `/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build' exists.  Please can anybody suggest
the right procedure?

Many thanks in advance ofr any help
Rodolfo


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[FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread andy

andy wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

andy wrote:

Greetings

The following is one of a number of sites (including, for example,
parts of the NASA site) where I am told that my version of Flash
Player is outdated: You need the latest Flash Player plugin to view
the multimedia content of this site.
http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/environment/global-warming/gw-impacts-interactive.html

I thought that I actually had the latest, but apparently not.

Has anyone else had this problem and what is the optimal fix,
because I seem to remember that there was a clash between versions I
used to have.

WFM: flashplayer-mozilla 9.0.124.0-0.0 + Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux
i686; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008062910 Iceweasel/3.0 (Debian-3.0~rc2-2)

Hugo

I have the latest version of Lenny's flashplayer-mozilla installed
and, following Nuno's suggestion, closed IW and ran dpkg-reconfigure
iceweasel. This still hasn't worked however.

I wonder if this conflicts with having gone to the flash site and
downloaded the flash-player 9 installer, and installed it using dpkg?

Andy

I needed to uninstall the earlier version of flashplayer, which I have
now done, and then ran the flashplayer-installer from the Adobe website.
Iceweasel is currently running Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124, and I no longer
get the error message when going to the NG website link.

All's well, I think.

Thanks for the help/ comments.

Andy

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answers. - Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow

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Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:40:32 +0200
Bruno Voigt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm currently not able to start iceweasel
 
 ii  iceweasel   
 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on
 Mozilla ii  iceweasel-gnome-support 
 3.0.1-1 Support for GNOME in Iceweasel
 
 Same result as with 3.0~rc2-2 0:
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel
 Segmentation fault
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel -safe
 Segmentation fault
 
 System ist debian/unstable uptodate.
 
 On other debian/unstable systems it still works.
 
 Could it be caused by other packages/plugin?
 
 How to debug the cause?
 
 TIA + WR,
 Bruno
 
 

The first thing to try is mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old.

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Re: Re: Switch-off problem

2008-07-20 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel

Ron Johnson wrote:

 On 07/19/08 04:46, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:[..]

 Now my theory is that the switch-off problem occurs after the
  following events:
 
 1 - I mount the remote usb drive.
 2 - my wife switches off her computer.
 3 - I try to umount the remote usb drive -- this cannot be
 done.
 
 I suppose the shutdown program also tries to umount nfs 
 mounts, but fails, and then instead of skipping this step, 
 just hangs. Does this make sense? If so, is there a way to 
 solve this problem?
 
 Manually umount -l the remote drive before you shutdown?

This does not work. Manually umounting the nfs drive (after the
computer which hosts the nfs drive is switched off) just leads to
a hang, whether the lazy switch is applied or not. In fact I
cannot even type the umount command entirely: the system hangs
immediately after typing the first 3 characters (including the
leading /) of the mount point.

Anyway it seems (from /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh) that the -l
switch, as well as the -f switch, is already applied by default.
Running Sid; kernel is a stock Debian one:

2.6.25-2-686 #1 SMP Wed May 14 16:42:03 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

It seems that nfs on the remote computer fails to send a command
(before shutting itself down) to the computers to which it
exports, telling them to umount. This may be a bug, or, much more
likely, a failure on my part to understand the nfs export system.
Anyway, I never had this trouble while samba was used for sharing,
rather than nfs.

Regards, Jan


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Re: TV tuner/capture cards?

2008-07-20 Thread Nate Bargmann

* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Jul 20 00:25 -0500]:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On 07/19/08 21:57, Nate Bargmann wrote:
  * Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Jul 19 19:46 -0500]:
  I use the pvr 500 using the ivtv driver and play using mplayer. Works 
  just fine, native debian.
  
  I getting ready to jump into MythTV using Mythbuntu.  I'm collecting
  hardware and the PVR-150 is on my list.  One thing of note in my
  research is that using the PVR-150 and friends on a VIA chipset seems
  to have a lot of DMA issues.  So I'm building this on an Intel chipset
  box.
 
 The new Atom?

No.  I'm sure it's just a reassembled collection of old atoms that have
been around since the Big Bang.  ;-)

Actually, I bought a Thinkcentre M50 tower off eBay for this project.

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Re: Installing nVidia drivers [WAS: Using apt to install only one package]

2008-07-20 Thread andy


andy wrote:

Damon L. Chesser wrote:

On Monday 14 July 2008 04:10:57 pm andy wrote:
  

Stackpole, Chris wrote:


snip

Well I can't guarantee that it will all be smooth sailing when using Sid
packages. It should work, but obviously mileage varies. You do not want
to do an apt-get upgrade or anything like that but just a simple
'apt-get install package' may work for you. I do not foresee a reason
why you would need to change your kernel or to change anything but the
dependencies required by the package being upgraded by apt-get.

I wish you the best.

Have fun!
Chris Stackpole
  

Chris - no worries about a guarantee! I can fully appreciate that and
have, over a number of years of using GNU/Linux now, come to expect that
if something can go wrong, it probably will! The result inevitably has
been that I get dragged kicking and screaming into Computer-World with
all its arcane incantations and nuanced temperaments :-) until I can
figure out a fix that works and stays working and almost certainly due
to the help of many people along the way.

So, learning from past experiences, I now need to change my question
from one about controlling apt-get to the methodology of installing a
nVidia driver (and associated libraries, etc.) so that whenever the
kernel headers are upgraded, it doesn't deep-six my xorg, which is what
happened today!

Therefore ...

What is the correct/best/least error-prone method for installing an
nVidia driver from the Debian repositories, on a Lenny machine, so that
whenever the kernel headers are upgraded, the xorg continues to work?

I have done some searching on this, and to be honest some of the docs
seem quite out of date, and some even contradict each other. But so far
I have established that I do the following (I think!):

1. identify the kernel I am running (uname -r)
2. change my apt/sources.list to enable the latest drivers from Sid
3. download nVidia-driver and nVidia-glx and nVidia-settings (?) from
the Sid repos
4. download module-assistant
5. run m-a prepare  m-a a-i nvidia
6. check it's okay: grep -q ^nvidia /etc/modules || echo nvidia 
/etc/modules
7. install the additionals: apt-get install nvidia-glx/Sid
8. restart the *DM /etc/init.d/gdm restart

Do I have this correct? If not, an informed steer would be welcomed.
What are the gotchas and any tips for troubleshooting?

Thanks

Andy



see this:  http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers  In short, if you 
change kernels, you will have issues.  Even if you use the Nvidia installer.  
You will have to re-install against your running kernel either through the 
Nvidia installer sh or through using modual assistant.


The easy answer is find the kernel you want and lock it in place (you can do 
that with synaptic), or compile your own kernel, then lock that in place so 
Debian will not update it.


The slightly harder answer is to update your kernel, make sure your headers 
are updated, make sure nvidia-glx, and nvidia-kernel have the same version 
numbers (if they do not, you will not be able to compile the new module), 
reboot into init 1 (single user mode) run the steps listed in 3. Methods 
above, exit into init 5.


Or:  install the Nvidia installer, run the nvidia_installer.sh as root from 
the cli (remove all nvidia-packages first).  Make sure you have a dev 
environment (install kernel-package should work) or it will fail.  You 
will/might get warnings about your kernel not matching your gcc, I ignore it.  
When you update the kernel, make sure the headers are updated as well, reboot 
into init 1 and re-run the Nvidia_installer.sh.


In short, make sure you know you will have to re-install every kernel update.  
If all else fails, keep a copy of xorg.conf in /root and just replace nvidia 
with nv and it should start.


HTH



  

Damon

Thanks for the very detailed response and guide. For the digitally 
dubious such as myself, this looks about the bite (byte?) sized pieces 
I can handle. I have copied this into a text document to print off and 
to use as a guide for when I tackle this issue over the weekend.


I appreciate your comments and suggestions.

Cheers

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Hi all

OK I attempted to update my nVidia driver this weekend as I said I would 
earlier this last week.


First, I downloaded the latest nVidia installer for my card, which is a 
nVidia GeForce 8500 GT. The latest version is 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run. I then made it executable (chmod +x).


Second, I rebooted into single user mode, loading the 2.6.25-2-686 
kernel and then ran the installer: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run


Third, after going through the various agreements, etc. and ignoring the 
mismatch between compilers, the installation through back an error 
message to the effect that the kernel I was running was a Xen kernel and 
that the NVIDIA driver does not currently work

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:24:33 -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote:
 
 An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me
 Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is
 just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in
 the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scrolling through:
 
   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/thrd4.html
 
 is like wading through thick, thick mud. When one moves from screen to
 screen, iceweasel/firefox takes about 7 or 8 seconds to redraw its
 window. It's really unusable.
 
 Is anyone else seeing this?
 
 Epiphany behaves similarly, but Konqueror and Mozilla are wonderfully
 fast, suggesting that the problem (whatever it is) lies with Gecko.
 
 This last suspicion was confirmed when I installed epiphany-webkit and
 called it explicitly. It was just as fast as Konqueror and Mozilla.
 
 Upgrading to 3.0.1 in unstable makes matters, if anything, worse.
 
 Downgrading to version 2.0 in stable restores normal speed and usability.
 
 The problem is the same in the binary version available directly from 
 mozilla.org.

I suspect that this might have something to do with your video driver
and the acceleration method that is used. Please post the output of
these two commands:

grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

grep 'Accel\|XAA\|EXA' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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Re: [not about debian] Could someone give me a clue about making a window manager?

2008-07-20 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds


Any suggestions about which one? DWM? I do not know.

Thanks.

Shachar Or wrote:

On Sunday 20 July 2008 09:04, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
  

I want to make a simple WM, but do not know where to start.



Look at the dependencies of the x-window-manager virtual package. Look at the 
sources of the simple ones.


  

Thanks.



  



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Re: Module compilation

2008-07-20 Thread Robin

2008/7/20 Rodolfo Medina [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm following this guide:

  
 http://www.debianclan.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=154Itemid=38

 .  At the step where I do:

  # make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd`

 , the system complains that the above path is not found: in fact no file or
 directory `/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build' exists.  Please can anybody suggest
 the right procedure?

 Many thanks in advance ofr any help
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Have you got the matching linux-headers-versionnumber package for you
installed kernel?

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Re: [not about debian] Could someone give me a clue about making a window manager?

On Sunday 20 July 2008 14:32, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
 Any suggestions about which one? DWM? I do not know.

You may want to go with those that do not depend on extra libraries to keep 
things simple; not the ones that are part of a desktop environment for the 
same reason.

On a different note, if I were to try out a new WM now, It'd be 'awesome' 
which is in backports now.

Good week!

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Re: Help filing bug report; can't use automated tool, does this report look OK?

2008-07-20 Thread Arthur A


Celejar wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:57:52 +0300
Arthur A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...

Briefly, what happens is the 'X' randomly crashes without warning, and it is 
irrecoverable. Any open work is lost. A reboot is required. There is an error in 
the xorg.log about rng expecting one number, getting another, then fatal server 
error.


Here is the bug report I want to file, you comments are appreciated.

Regards,
AA
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To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xserver-xorg-video-intel causes X to crash irrecoverably and without 
warning (fatal server error: lockup)

Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel
Version: 2:2.3.2-2
Severity: important

Seemingly at random, and infrequently, X will crash and I will often lose all 
open work. After a number of attempts to automatically restart I will be given a 
message saying that X has crashed and cannot be restarted. Switching to a 
different terminal killing all Xsessions and GDM and attempting to restart them 
does not work. A reboot is seemingly required.


Adding the option NoDRI to xorg.conf appears to prevent this from happening? 
This is not a good option for me as suspend/resume does not work with this 
option enabled.


It occurs infrequently, perhaps once every 30 or 40 hours of use, and I have 
been unable to find any pattern. I believe iceweasel has been open for all 
crashes, though this has occured over an upgrade to version 3.0, and has also 
persisted over recent updates to xorg and the intel driver.


The xorg.log seems to contain a relevant and hopefully useful error at the end 
of the log.


I set the severity to important because it currently causes a loss of data.

Please advise if I can provide more information. Reportbug was not working for 
me and I have filed this manually.


Below you will find my xorg.log, xorg.conf, kernel version, libc version. I am 
running Lenny.


Regards,
AA

# 
# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
# 


...

[This is where the reports related to the bug begin.]


Error in I830WaitLpRing(), timeout for 2 seconds
pgetbl_ctl: 0x3ffc0001 getbl_err: 0x0003
ipeir: 0x iphdr: 0x7d06
LP ring tail: 0xe490 head: 0xe49c len: 0x0001f001 start 0x
eir: 0x esr: 0x0010 emr: 0x
instdone: 0xfa41 instpm: 0x
memmode: 0x010f instps: 0x800f04c4
hwstam: 0xfffe ier: 0x0002 imr: 0x iir: 0x0070
Ring at virtual 0xa782f000 head 0xe49c tail 0xe490 count 32765


...


Ring end
space: 4 wanted 32
(II) intel(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) intel(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xf8d41000 at 0xb7ef3000
(II) intel(0): [drm] Closed DRM master.

Fatal server error:
lockup


...

I have reported a version of this to upstream (as per a request by one of the 
DDs in a similar bug log:

http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16262

See also:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=465694
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432110

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I took at look at those bugs, thanks for the info. It's difficult to say much, 
given how vaguely we're able to describe the problem. Although, I too wondered 
whether or not a suspend/resume cycle was required.


I can tell you that the noexacomposite option made things much worse. Crashed 
four times in one day.


Since then I've removed that line from xorg.conf and removed the libflash.so 
plugin (I'd be using 10 beta). I've installed gnash, but really, I'm just doing 
without flash. I've no reason to suspect flash is at fault, it's just something 
I can try while I wait to here more or get asked to try other things.


Regards,


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Re: Installing nVidia drivers [WAS: Using apt to install only one package]

2008-07-20 Thread Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:13:50PM +0100, andy wrote:

 On the GRUB menu, several kernels are now listed - the current one and  
 then the 2.6.25-x kernel. Because the /boot/grub/menu.lst will  
 automatically load after about 5 seconds, how would I go about *safely*  
 removing the other kernel options since these don't work for me?

You edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. See [1] for more info.

HTH

Oli

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/GrubConfiguration


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Re: Signing local repositories

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Kemp

On Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 20:59:18 +0300, Shachar Or wrote:

 I don't know how to sign the repository. I've never used signatures, gnupg or 
 any of these terms. Can anyone give me a run-down of how to do this?

  Create a gpg-key, call it somethign like [EMAIL PROTECTED].  Then
 in your reprepro configuration file add:

 Sign-With: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Now rebuild your repository and that'll do it.  If you like take a 
 look at this tool too:


http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/rapt/
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Re: [Mostly Solved] Re: Blurry fonts in printed invoices

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 23:51:32 -0400, Celejar wrote:

[...]

 I've been printing from IW using the virtual CUPS-PDF printer.  I just
 tried printing to file (direct to PDF, not to ps), and I now get the
 same pdffonts output that you do, nice font names but all 'no's in the
 sub column.

Ah, so that is the difference: The cups-pdf virtual printer probably
uses ghostscript directly, including its ugly font naming scheme,
while the print-to-file function of iceweasel seems to work via
libcairo, resulting in nicer names but wasteful embedding  of whole
character sets.

 OTOH, I find that the file sizes are 10 - 20 percent
 *smaller* for pages printed directly to file from IW!  I have tried
 three different pages: a blog post, a sales invoice and an AP news
 article.

Hmm, maybe cups-pdf works like more a printer driver, embedding
character subsets for each page separately, which could lead to a
certain amount of wasteful overlap. I would then expect to see a
different name for the same font on different pages, though.

Another possible explanation is that libcairo uses a better compression
algorithm for the embedded font data, or that the size of the full
character set of a given font varies with the encoding.

 Your test page, OTOH, is about 4 to 5 times *larger* when
 printed directly to file.  Perhaps the reason is that your page uses
 relatively few characters per font, while more typical pages tend to
 use much larger subsets, which limits the savings realized by only
 including subsets of the fonts in the file?

Yes, indeed, that might also explain why the print-to-file function does
not bother to figure out the minimum necessary character subset to
embed: It does not matter all that much unless somebody puts up a font
test page with many different fonts and only a few characters for each
individual font.

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Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West


Bruno Voigt wrote:

I'm currently not able to start iceweasel

ii  iceweasel   
3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
ii  iceweasel-gnome-support 
3.0.1-1 Support for GNOME in Iceweasel


Same result as with 3.0~rc2-2 0:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel

Segmentation fault

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel -safe
Segmentation fault

System ist debian/unstable uptodate.

On other debian/unstable systems it still works.

  


I just updated a box yesterday and am seeing the same problem. I haven't 
had time to debug it yet, but one thing I noticed is that when I run ldd 
against /usr/bin/iceweasel, it dies also. This leads me to believe the 
problem is deeper than a mere iceweasel problem.



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Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Bruno Voigt

Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:40:32 +0200
 Bruno Voigt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I'm currently not able to start iceweasel

 ii  iceweasel   
 3.0.1-1 lightweight web browser based on
 Mozilla ii  iceweasel-gnome-support 
 3.0.1-1 Support for GNOME in Iceweasel

 Same result as with 3.0~rc2-2 0:
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel
 Segmentation fault

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel -safe
 Segmentation fault

 System ist debian/unstable uptodate.

 On other debian/unstable systems it still works.

 Could it be caused by other packages/plugin?

 How to debug the cause?

 TIA + WR,
 Bruno
 

 The first thing to try is mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old.
   

Sure, I tried it with a fresh user account,
so I believe it must be some global cause.

WR,
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no cd/dvd devices detected after kernel change

2008-07-20 Thread Joe Hickey

Hello,

Using 2.6.24-1-686, my two IDE-connected cd/dvd drives are detected as
/dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1, symlinked to cdrom0 and cdrom1, and work
perfectly. When I boot 2.6.25-2-686-bigmem, no entries for these
devices appear in /dev.

With the working kernel, the relevant part of dmesg is:

scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usb-storage: device found at 2
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
ata5.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GSA-H55L, 1.05, max UDMA/66
ata5.01: ATAPI: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR-H30N, 1.00, max UDMA/33
usb 7-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
ata5.00: configured for UDMA/66
usb 7-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
ata5.01: configured for UDMA/33
BAR5:00:02 01:7F 02:22 03:CA 04:00 05:00 06:00 07:00 08:00 09:00 0A:00
0B:00 0C:07 0D:00 0E:00 0F:00 

With the bigmem kernel, what looks like the corresponding part of
dmesg:

[0.812202] PCI: Setting latency timer of device :03:00.0 to 64
[0.812281] scsi5 : ahci
[0.812455] scsi6 : ahci
[0.812583] scsi7 : ahci
[0.812645] ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 abar [EMAIL PROTECTED] port
0xfeaffd00 irq 16
[0.812705] ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 abar [EMAIL PROTECTED] port
0xfeaffd80 irq 16
[0.812765] ata7: DUMMY
[0.874732] usb 7-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[0.875046] scsi8 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[0.875218] usb 7-1: New USB device found, idVendor=04b4,
idProduct=6830

There are no error messages referring to the DVD drives elsewhere in
dmesg.

There's a slight difference in the output of lsmod | grep ide between
the two kernels. For the working kernel:

ide_cd 36224  0 
cdrom  32512  2 ide_cd,sr_mod
ide_core  108292  2 ide_cd,generic

For the bigmem kernel that doesn't detect the drives:

ide_cd_mod 33632  0 
cdrom  32640  2 sr_mod,ide_cd_mod
ide_pci_generic 4996  0 [permanent]
ide_core  101624  2 ide_cd_mod,ide_pci_generic

I have ide-core, ide-cd, cdrom and sr_mod listed in /etc/modules to
try to ensure relevant stuff gets loaded at boot.

I'd appreciate any advice about next steps for tracking down the
problem.

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Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote:
 Bruno Voigt wrote:
 I'm currently not able to start iceweasel

 ii  iceweasel   3.0.1-1 
 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
 ii  iceweasel-gnome-support 3.0.1-1 
 Support for GNOME in Iceweasel

 Same result as with 3.0~rc2-2 0:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel
 Segmentation fault

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel -safe
 Segmentation fault

 System ist debian/unstable uptodate.

 On other debian/unstable systems it still works.
   

 I just updated a box yesterday and am seeing the same problem. I haven't  
 had time to debug it yet, but one thing I noticed is that when I run ldd  
 against /usr/bin/iceweasel, it dies also. This leads me to believe the  
 problem is deeper than a mere iceweasel problem.

If you run

ldconfig -pNX | grep local

, what do you see? Does that crash, too?

Also try

strace -f iceweasel --safe-mode

and post the last 10-20 lines of the output. (You have to install the
package strace if it is not on your system already.)

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Re: Contributing to the Debian website - easier than some think

2008-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom


Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:23:55AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

[breaking the thread on purpose because this is totally unrelated]

On Thu,17.Jul.08, 15:28:09, Chris Bannister wrote:

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:27:25PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
You should contact debian-www about that. I think I recall a discussion 
about the children-distros page being outdated, but I guess manpower is 
missing again. I you would be willing to supply patches against the CVS 
source I'm sure they will be at least looked over. Or maybe that page 

Yeah, but you have to download the **WHOLE** website so you can submit
patches. :-( Makes you think twice about helping. Although, hopefully,
if you mention it on the debian-www mailing list someone will do the
necessary without being an [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I wonder where you got the info that you need to download the whole 
website, it should be corrected.

It was in a post on the debian-www mailing list in a thread talking
about whether two  spaces after a full stop was acceptable English by
M.J Ray, I think.


so long as they paint the bike shed red, I don't care how many spaces
they use...



is that bike-shed or shed-red?

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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom


Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:24:33 -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote:

An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me
Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is
just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in
the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scrolling through:

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/thrd4.html

is like wading through thick, thick mud. When one moves from screen to
screen, iceweasel/firefox takes about 7 or 8 seconds to redraw its
window. It's really unusable.

Is anyone else seeing this?

Epiphany behaves similarly, but Konqueror and Mozilla are wonderfully
fast, suggesting that the problem (whatever it is) lies with Gecko.

This last suspicion was confirmed when I installed epiphany-webkit and
called it explicitly. It was just as fast as Konqueror and Mozilla.

Upgrading to 3.0.1 in unstable makes matters, if anything, worse.

Downgrading to version 2.0 in stable restores normal speed and usability.

The problem is the same in the binary version available directly from 
mozilla.org.


I suspect that this might have something to do with your video driver
and the acceleration method that is used. Please post the output of
these two commands:

grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

grep 'Accel\|XAA\|EXA' /var/log/Xorg.0.log



Very good point:

/home/hugoSun Jul 20-09:43:32SDB5# grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/' 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log

(II) LoadModule: nvidia
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
(II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) LoadModule: evdev
/home/hugoSun Jul 20-09:43:38SDB5# grep 'Accel\|XAA\|EXA' 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log

(**) NVIDIA(0): Option RenderAccel True
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
/home/hugoSun Jul 20-09:44:17SDB5#

I see no performance problems with latest Sid IW.

Hugo


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Re: Installing nVidia drivers [WAS: Using apt to install only one package]

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson

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On 07/20/08 06:13, andy wrote:
[snip]
 
 OK I attempted to update my nVidia driver this weekend as I said I would
 earlier this last week.

Good for you!

 First, I downloaded the latest nVidia installer for my card, which is a
 nVidia GeForce 8500 GT. The latest version is
 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run. I then made it executable (chmod +x).

That works, but is not necessary.  Just do:
# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run

 Second, I rebooted into single user mode, loading the 2.6.25-2-686
 kernel and then ran the installer: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run

You don't need to be in single-user mode.  Unless, I guess, you boot
into [xgk]dm.

 Third, after going through the various agreements, etc. and ignoring the
 mismatch between compilers, the installation through back an error
 message to the effect that the kernel I was running was a Xen kernel and
 that the NVIDIA driver does not currently work on Xen kernels.
 
 After that, there was no way forward except for me to reboot into the
 current kernel which is 2.6.24-1-686.
 
 I didn't know that I had obtained a Xen kernel from the automatic
 updates, nor do I understand why this would be a problem. Although,

Ah, bummer.  Maybe Xen is now built into the Debian kernel image?

Try:
$ ls -aFl /boot/config*

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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson

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On 07/20/08 09:46, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote:
[snip]

 I suspect that this might have something to do with your video driver
 and the acceleration method that is used. Please post the output of
 these two commands:

 grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

 grep 'Accel\|XAA\|EXA' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

 
 Very good point:
 
 /home/hugoSun Jul 20-09:43:32SDB5# grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/'
 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 (II) LoadModule: nvidia
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
 (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
 compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
 Module class: X.Org Video Driver
 (II) LoadModule: evdev
 /home/hugoSun Jul 20-09:43:38SDB5# grep 'Accel\|XAA\|EXA'
 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 (**) NVIDIA(0): Option RenderAccel True
 (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
 /home/hugoSun Jul 20-09:44:17SDB5#
 
 I see no performance problems with latest Sid IW.

I also see good video performance.

$ grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) LoadModule: nvidia
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
(II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) LoadModule: kbd


$ grep 'Accel\|XAA\|EXA' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps is not used

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Changing locale for X session

Hello!

How do I set the locale for a user to something other than the one set by 
debconf in the locales package?

This should be the user's default in X sessions.

I was told that gdm has a feature for this but I'm using kdm.

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Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin

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Re: Changing locale for X session

On Sunday 20 July 2008 18:55, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
  Hello!
 =20
  How do I set the locale for a user to something other than the one set =

 by=20

  debconf in the locales package?
 =20
  This should be the user's default in X sessions.
 =20
  I was told that gdm has a feature for this but I'm using kdm.
 =20
  Cheers!

 export LC_ALL=3Dlocale in ~/.Xinitrc ?
What is the 3D for?


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Re: Changing locale for X session

On Sunday 20 July 2008 18:55, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
 export LC_ALL=3Dlocale in ~/.Xinitrc ?
When I open up a terminal as that user and type 'echo $L' and press tab i 
can see that there's no such variable.

I've tried to set the $LANG variable via this file and it didn't change it 
also.

I think that this isn't the correct file.
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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Bill Wohler

Jim McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me
 Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is
 just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in
 the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scrolling through:

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/thrd4.html

 is like wading through thick, thick mud. When one moves from screen to
 screen, iceweasel/firefox takes about 7 or 8 seconds to redraw its
 window. It's really unusable.

 Is anyone else seeing this?

Nope.

$ grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) LoadModule: radeon
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so
(II) Module radeon: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 4.3.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
$ grep 'Accel\|XAA\|EXA' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(==) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture
(II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
(II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled

It sounds like others are OK too. The good news is that once you get
your X drivers straightened out, your entire UI experience will
probably improve dramatically.

Florian, thanks for the grep examples. I didn't know about the -B and
-A flags, and they are bound to be handy!

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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Carl Fink

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:24:33AM -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote:
 
 An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me
 Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is
 just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in
 the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scrolling through:
 
   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/thrd4.html
 
 is like wading through thick, thick mud. When one moves from screen to
 screen, iceweasel/firefox takes about 7 or 8 seconds to redraw its
 window. It's really unusable.
 
 Is anyone else seeing this?
 
 Epiphany behaves similarly, but Konqueror and Mozilla are wonderfully
 fast, suggesting that the problem (whatever it is) lies with Gecko.
 
 This last suspicion was confirmed when I installed epiphany-webkit and
 called it explicitly. It was just as fast as Konqueror and Mozilla.
 
 Upgrading to 3.0.1 in unstable makes matters, if anything, worse.
 
 Downgrading to version 2.0 in stable restores normal speed and usability.
 
 The problem is the same in the binary version available directly from 
 mozilla.org.

In my case, a reboot was required to load the new versions of about a dozen
libraries.  (Killing and restarting X did not do it.)  Once I did that,
weird rendering problems in Gecko went away.  It can't hurt.
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Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-20 Thread Andrei Popescu

On Sat,19.Jul.08, 18:43:32, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/19/08 17:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
 [snip]
  Decrease the frequency at which you check your mail?
  
  I just did (from 5 to 15 min). Let's see if this helps.
 
 If that helps, then you didn't cure the problem, only mask it.  I
 say that because I've been doing 5 minute fetchmail pulls for 4
 years, and it works like a charm.
 
In the last reject there was this link:

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257

My getmailrc also didn't use the full email as username (which is also 
mentioned there).  I'll wait for about a week and then put gmail back on 
5 min., because I retrieve mail using a small self-backed script which 
ensures I don't have two instances at a time.

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Re: Contributing to the Debian website - easier than some think

2008-07-20 Thread Andrei Popescu

On Sun,20.Jul.08, 11:23:08, Chris Bannister wrote:
 
  I wonder where you got the info that you need to download the whole 
  website, it should be corrected.
 
 It was in a post on the debian-www mailing list in a thread talking
 about whether two  spaces after a full stop was acceptable English by
 M.J Ray, I think.
 
Ah, I understand, let me explain:

The Debian website has a system for tracking old translations. Each 
translated page has a special header which tells what English CVS 
version it refers to.

Now, consider somebody is making cosmetic changes to the English version 
(ex. changing  to q), this would mark all translations outdated! In 
order to prevent this a perl script was written (smartchange.pl) which 
also takes care about the translations. Of course, in order for it to 
work it must have access to all translations of the page to be changed, 
hence the requirement to have a full checkout.

I hope I was able to explain it simply enough, as I'm not sure I 
understand it very well ;) (see my .sig).

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Re: Changing locale for X session

2008-07-20 Thread Thilo Six

Shachar Or wrote the following on 20.07.2008 17:47

 Hello!
 
 How do I set the locale for a user to something other than the one set by 
 debconf in the locales package?
 
 This should be the user's default in X sessions.
 
 I was told that gdm has a feature for this but I'm using kdm.
 
 Cheers!

kde or gnome?
etch or lenny?

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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson

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On 07/20/08 11:44, Carl Fink wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:24:33AM -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote:
 An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me
 Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is
 just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in
 the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scrolling through:

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/thrd4.html

 is like wading through thick, thick mud. When one moves from screen to
 screen, iceweasel/firefox takes about 7 or 8 seconds to redraw its
 window. It's really unusable.

 Is anyone else seeing this?

 Epiphany behaves similarly, but Konqueror and Mozilla are wonderfully
 fast, suggesting that the problem (whatever it is) lies with Gecko.

 This last suspicion was confirmed when I installed epiphany-webkit and
 called it explicitly. It was just as fast as Konqueror and Mozilla.

 Upgrading to 3.0.1 in unstable makes matters, if anything, worse.

 Downgrading to version 2.0 in stable restores normal speed and usability.

 The problem is the same in the binary version available directly from 
 mozilla.org.
 
 In my case, a reboot was required to load the new versions of about a dozen
 libraries.  (Killing and restarting X did not do it.)  Once I did that,
 weird rendering problems in Gecko went away.  It can't hurt.

Most of you will yawn, and think, there he goes again, but this
why I don't like display managers.

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Re: Changing locale for X session

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Shachar Or [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 20 July 2008 18:55, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
 export LC_ALL=3Dlocale in ~/.Xinitrc ?
 When I open up a terminal as that user and type 'echo $L' and press tab i
 can see that there's no such variable.

 I've tried to set the $LANG variable via this file and it didn't change it
 also.

 I think that this isn't the correct file.


I do not know where that 3D came from, but it isn't valid.

Try setting LC_ALL= and LANG= in ~/.xsession

Make sure the locale is correct, e.g. mine would be:
export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
export LANG=en_US.UTF-8

Capitalization and punctuation of the locale is important.

Generally:
language_LOCATION.ENCODING


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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Jim McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me
 Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is
 just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in
 the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scrolling through:

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/thrd4.html

 is like wading through thick, thick mud. When one moves from screen to
 screen, iceweasel/firefox takes about 7 or 8 seconds to redraw its
 window. It's really unusable.

 Is anyone else seeing this?

I have not seen this.


 Epiphany behaves similarly, but Konqueror and Mozilla are wonderfully
 fast, suggesting that the problem (whatever it is) lies with Gecko.

If Mozilla is fast then the problem is in your FF installation, not in Gecko.


 This last suspicion was confirmed when I installed epiphany-webkit and
 called it explicitly. It was just as fast as Konqueror and Mozilla.

 Upgrading to 3.0.1 in unstable makes matters, if anything, worse.

 Downgrading to version 2.0 in stable restores normal speed and usability.

 The problem is the same in the binary version available directly from 
 mozilla.org.

Have you tried cleaning your profile or tried a new profile? And as some others
said, restarting can sometimes fix issues with old libraries being
used, although
theoretically it shouldn't be needed.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:59:22 -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
 Jim McCloskey writes:
 
  An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me
  Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is
  just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in
  the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scrolling through:
 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/thrd4.html
 
  is like wading through thick, thick mud. When one moves from screen to
  screen, iceweasel/firefox takes about 7 or 8 seconds to redraw its
  window. It's really unusable.
 
  Is anyone else seeing this?
 
 Nope.
 
 $ grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 (II) LoadModule: radeon

[...]

 (==) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture
 (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
 (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled
 
 It sounds like others are OK too. The good news is that once you get
 your X drivers straightened out, your entire UI experience will
 probably improve dramatically.

OK, our mini-survey so far:

nvidia driver using nvidia's RenderAccel: fine (Hugo, Ron)
radeon driver with XAA: fine (Bill)

My experience with Intel 82Q963/Q965 and the Xorg intel driver:

with EXA: not as bad as what Jim describes, but slow enough to seriously
  deteriorate the browsing experience

with XAA: generally quite fast, only web sites with excessive use of
  background images slow it down noticeably, but not unbearably

Jim, if you have an intel card and use EXA (the default these days) then
a switch to XAA will improve your browsing experience significantly.

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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Florian Kulzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, our mini-survey so far:

 nvidia driver using nvidia's RenderAccel: fine (Hugo, Ron)
 radeon driver with XAA: fine (Bill)

 My experience with Intel 82Q963/Q965 and the Xorg intel driver:

 with EXA: not as bad as what Jim describes, but slow enough to seriously
  deteriorate the browsing experience

 with XAA: generally quite fast, only web sites with excessive use of
  background images slow it down noticeably, but not unbearably

 Jim, if you have an intel card and use EXA (the default these days) then
 a switch to XAA will improve your browsing experience significantly.

I  have found EXA to work very well with the Radeon drivers (r300/r400).


Cheers,
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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail

2008-07-20 Thread Nick Lidakis


Ron Johnson wrote:



Most of you will yawn, and think, there he goes again, but this
why I don't like display managers.


Can you elaborate? With a display manager one cannot kill X to make new 
changes, like the aforementioned libraries, to take effect?



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Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Kent West


Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote:
  

Bruno Voigt wrote:


I'm currently not able to start iceweasel

ii  iceweasel   3.0.1-1 
lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
ii  iceweasel-gnome-support 3.0.1-1 
Support for GNOME in Iceweasel


Same result as with 3.0~rc2-2 0:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel
Segmentation fault

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel -safe
Segmentation fault

System ist debian/unstable uptodate.

On other debian/unstable systems it still works.
  
  
I just updated a box yesterday and am seeing the same problem. I haven't  
had time to debug it yet, but one thing I noticed is that when I run ldd  
against /usr/bin/iceweasel, it dies also. This leads me to believe the  
problem is deeper than a mere iceweasel problem.



If you run

ldconfig -pNX | grep local

, what do you see? Does that crash, too?
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ldconfig -pNX | grep local
bash: ldconfig: command not found

I'm currently doing an aptitude dist-upgrade, hoping that'll fix the 
problems, but it's a slow process. Once that's finished, if ldconfig is 
not installed at that point, I'll see if I can't get it installed.



Also try

strace -f iceweasel --safe-mode

and post the last 10-20 lines of the output. (You have to install the
package strace if it is not on your system already.)

  


open(/usr/lib/iceweasel/libgcc_s.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)
open(/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libgcc_s.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)
access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)

open(/lib/libgcc_s.so.1, O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, 
\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220\34\0\0004\0\0\0\264..., 
512) = 512

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=49644, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 52776, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) 
= 0xb7cc7000
mmap2(0xb7cd3000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xb) = 0xb7cd3000

close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/iceweasel/libm.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)
open(/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libm.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)

open(/lib/i686/cmov/libm.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]..., 
512) = 512

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=149328, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 151680, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 
0) = 0xb7ca1000
mmap2(0xb7cc5000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x23) = 0xb7cc5000

close(3)= 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 
0) = 0xb7ca
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 
0) = 0xb7c9f000
set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 - 6, base_addr:0xb7c9f6c0, 
limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, 
limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0

mprotect(0xb7e42000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
mprotect(0xb7f2c000, 12288, PROT_READ)  = 0
munmap(0xb7f3b000, 76295)   = 0
set_tid_address(0xb7c9f708) = 27003
set_robust_list(0xb7c9f710, 0xc)= 0
futex(0xbff75c50, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = -1 ENOSYS (Function not 
implemented)

rt_sigaction(SIGRTMIN, {0xb7cd82e0, [], SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGRT_1, {0xb7cd8720, [], SA_RESTART|SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [RTMIN RT_1], NULL, 8) = 0
getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, {rlim_cur=8192*1024, rlim_max=RLIM_INFINITY}) = 0
uname({sys=Linux, node=enjae, ...}) = 0
lstat64(/usr, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
lstat64(/usr/lib, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=53248, ...}) = 0
lstat64(/usr/lib/iceweasel, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
futex(0xb7f3a070, FUTEX_WAKE, 2147483647) = 0
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++


I'm guessing this means some libgcc piece is broken/missing. Once my 
dist-upgrade is finished, I may try tracking down that piece of the puzzle.


Thanks!


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Re: debian/unstable: iceweasel segmentation fault

2008-07-20 Thread Bruno Voigt

Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:22:38 -0500, Kent West wrote:
   
 Bruno Voigt wrote:
 
 I'm currently not able to start iceweasel

 ii  iceweasel   3.0.1-1 
 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
 ii  iceweasel-gnome-support 3.0.1-1 
 Support for GNOME in Iceweasel

 Same result as with 3.0~rc2-2 0:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel
 Segmentation fault

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ iceweasel -safe
 Segmentation fault

 System ist debian/unstable uptodate.

 On other debian/unstable systems it still works.
   
   
 I just updated a box yesterday and am seeing the same problem. I haven't  
 had time to debug it yet, but one thing I noticed is that when I run ldd  
 against /usr/bin/iceweasel, it dies also. This leads me to believe the  
 problem is deeper than a mere iceweasel problem.
 

 If you run

 ldconfig -pNX | grep local

 , what do you see? Does that crash, too?
   

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ldconfig -pNX | grep local
libsvn_ra_local-1.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libsvn_ra_local-1.so.1
libspandsp.so.0 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libspandsp.so.0
libspandsp.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libspandsp.so
libiax.so.0 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libiax.so.0
libiax.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libiax.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

 Also try

 strace -f iceweasel --safe-mode

 and post the last 10-20 lines of the output. (You have to install the
 package strace if it is not on your system already.)

   
open(/usr/lib/iceweasel/libgcc_s.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open(/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libgcc_s.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libgcc_s.so.1, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open(/lib/libgcc_s.so.1, O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3,
\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220\34\0\0004\0\0\0\264...,
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=49644, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0xb7ce2000
mmap2(NULL, 52776, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0)
= 0xb7cd5000
mmap2(0xb7ce1000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xb) = 0xb7ce1000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/iceweasel/libm.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
open(/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libm.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libm.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open(/lib/libm.so.6, O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...,
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=149328, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 151680, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3,
0) = 0xb7caf000
mmap2(0xb7cd3000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x23) = 0xb7cd3000
close(3)= 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0xb7cae000
set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 - 6, base_addr:0xb7cae8e0,
limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0,
limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0
mprotect(0xb7e33000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
mprotect(0xb7f1c000, 12288, PROT_READ)  = 0
munmap(0xb7f2b000, 158926)  = 0
set_tid_address(0xb7cae928) = 19982
set_robust_list(0xb7cae930, 0xc)= 0
futex(0xbfe2aa10, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGRTMIN, {0xb7ce7280, [], SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGRT_1, {0xb7ce7680, [], SA_RESTART|SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [RTMIN RT_1], NULL, 8) = 0
getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, {rlim_cur=8192*1024, rlim_max=RLIM_INFINITY}) = 0
uname({sys=Linux, node=wks.voigt.tv, ...}) = 0
lstat64(/usr, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
lstat64(/usr/lib, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=233472, ...}) = 0
lstat64(/usr/lib/iceweasel, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
futex(0xb7f2a070, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 2147483647) = 0
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

I do not know if it is relevant,
I'm using a custom kernel configuration.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/$ uname -a
Linux wks.voigt.tv 2.6.24.4-wks.voigt.tv #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon May 26
23:57:30 CEST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

Iceweasel 3.0~rc2 worked on it until some unstable update about 14-20
days ago.

WR,
Bruno


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Re: Contributing to the Debian website - easier than some think

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:39:52AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:23:55AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 [breaking the thread on purpose because this is totally unrelated]

 On Thu,17.Jul.08, 15:28:09, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:27:25PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 You should contact debian-www about that. I think I recall a 
 discussion about the children-distros page being outdated, but 
 I guess manpower is missing again. I you would be willing to 
 supply patches against the CVS source I'm sure they will be at 
 least looked over. Or maybe that page 
 Yeah, but you have to download the **WHOLE** website so you can submit
 patches. :-( Makes you think twice about helping. Although, hopefully,
 if you mention it on the debian-www mailing list someone will do the
 necessary without being an [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I wonder where you got the info that you need to download the 
 whole website, it should be corrected.
 It was in a post on the debian-www mailing list in a thread talking
 about whether two  spaces after a full stop was acceptable English by
 M.J Ray, I think.

 so long as they paint the bike shed red, I don't care how many spaces
 they use...


 is that bike-shed or shed-red?

maybe it should be both? though really it would be barn-red, I
think. That particular color that all barns seem to be painted for no
particular reason I know.

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Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:30:31AM +0100, andy wrote:
andy wrote:
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
andy wrote:
Greetings

http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/environment/global-warming/gw-impacts-interactive.html

...

WFM: flashplayer-mozilla 9.0.124.0-0.0 + Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux
i686; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008062910 Iceweasel/3.0
(Debian-3.0~rc2-2)
...

I have the latest version of Lenny's flashplayer-mozilla installed
and, following Nuno's suggestion, closed IW and ran dpkg-reconfigure
iceweasel. This still hasn't worked however.

I wonder if this conflicts with having gone to the flash site and
downloaded the flash-player 9 installer, and installed it using dpkg?
...

All's well, I think.

well, you still aren't running the debian version, but instead running
the adobe installed version. There's nothing inherently wrong with
that except that your package manager doesn't have control of the
situation anymore, so you may run into trouble later.

I would recommend that you try completely removing the adobe version
and reinstalling the debian version. It is likely, I think, that
trying to run two versions simultaneously was the problem.

In my opinion, it is preferable to run the debian packages instead of
the adobe install.

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Re: [not about debian] Could someone give me a clue about making a window manager?

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 03:25:44PM +0300, Shachar Or wrote:
 On Sunday 20 July 2008 14:32, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
  Any suggestions about which one? DWM? I do not know.
 
 You may want to go with those that do not depend on extra libraries to keep 
 things simple; not the ones that are part of a desktop environment for the 
 same reason.

I'd second that. keep it simple. If you can grok haskell, then look at
xmonad. It's a basic tiling window manager in just a few hundred lines
of code. Otherwise, look at the other small ones: awesome, as
mentioned; maybe wmii, they recently redid the whole thing, so it's
likely that the code is fairly clean, others? 

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Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0