Re: grub et preference
Le samedi 27 février 2010 08:46:16, philippe L a écrit : Bonjour, Hello. Je voudrais modifier l'os par defaut dans grub comme faire ? ( je ne trouve pas le fichier grub.cfg, suis je sur la bonne piste ? ) [Parodie]Un peu de saine lecture ne fait pas de mal dans l'avancée vers le chemin salutaire de la Connaissance[/Parodie] : http://www.linuxpedia.fr/doku.php/expert/grub2 Sinon, je crois me rappeler qu'il y a un paquet grub-choose-default qui permet de ne pas trop se casser la tête. Guillaume -- Les 7 péchés capitaux de Microsoft http://fr.windows7sins.org/ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002270908.57960.bou@laposte.net
Re: grub et preference
Bonjour, le dmesg dit : Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 (Debian 2.6.26-21lenny3) ( da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) je crois que c'est stable ! ( je n'ai pas de fichiers grub-pc ni grub-legacy ) merci -- ptilou Le 27 février 2010 08:56, Jean-Christophe Dubacq jcduba...@free.fr a écrit : On 27/02/2010 08:46, philippe L wrote: Bonjour, Je voudrais modifier l'os par defaut dans grub comme faire ? ( je ne trouve pas le fichier grub.cfg, suis je sur la bonne piste ? ) debian stable, ou debian testing ? Dans le deuxième cas, grub-pc ou grub-legacy ? -- Jean-Christophe Dubacq -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b88d030.8000...@free.fr
completement HS, mais c' est Samedi!- Methode post
Salut, Bon, si vous trouvez que c' est trop HS, ça risque de faire la discussion du WE! Voilà, je cherche la limite maximum des données que l'on peut transmettre avec la methode POST dans un formulaire. Merci Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002270922.11868.tchate...@free.fr
Re: completement HS, mais c' est Samedi!- Methode post
Thierry Chatelet wrote:
Salut,
Bon, si vous trouvez que c' est trop HS, ça risque de faire la discussion du
WE!
Voilà, je cherche la limite maximum des données que l'on peut transmettre avec
la methode POST dans un formulaire.
Il me semble qu'en théorie il n'y en aurait pas (sauf bien sur 2^32 çàd
4Go sur les machines 32 bits).
Mais en pratique il y en a évidemment une bien plus basse: la patience
de l'utilisateur. Il faut transmettre (par exemple sur un ADSL montant à
1Mbits/sec) les données, et l'utilisateur (et peut-être son navigateur)
n'est pas indéfiniement patient.
Concrètement, j'aurais tendance à suggérer de limiter à quelques
[dizaines de] mégaoctets, ce qui n'est pas mal, si possible. Bien sûr la
limite pratique dépend de la bande passante.
Avec un utilisateur néophyte (et une page web assez simple), la
difficulté pourrait être l'absence de réponse (sur son navigateur)
pendant un temps assez long (plusieurs minutes). Ok, on pourrait
peut-être faire du Flash, de l'AJAX ou autre qui affiche le temps restant.
Personnellement, j'ai déjà uploadé plusieurs dizaines de mégaoctets dans
une forme en POST, (donc input type='file'). Mais pendant
plusieurs minutes, le navigateur était gelé par le transfert, et il
ne faut pas y toucher. Un utilisateur néophyte s'impatienterait.
D'ailleurs, c'est le moyen le plus simple de me transferer un gros
fichier (10 à 100Mo) qui ne passerait pas par le mél. Si besoin,
j'indique à mon interlocuteur une URL /upload-for-me.cgi/
Je suis un peu surpris de la question.
Cordialement
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Re: problème d'exécution d'un script bash en cron ou via bacula
l3w0rM webmas...@worm-fr.com à écrit le Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:57:37 +0100 Bonjour à tous j'ai un script bash qui fonctionne bien quand je le lance à la main : ./BeforeJobs.sh quand ce dernier est appelé par bacula j'ai l'erreur : ClientRunBeforeJob: /etc/scripts/bacula/BeforeJob.sh: 15: Syntax error: ( unexpected Pour vérifier le problème j'ai mis mon script dans cron j'ai la même erreur : /etc/scripts/bacula/BeforeJob.sh: 15: Syntax error: ( unexpected voici mon script # # # #!/bin/sh set | grep -i shell= tu remplace /bin/sh par la réponse de la commande ci-dessus -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227100720.6ec14...@morpheusold.bulot-fr.com
Re: completement HS, mais c' est Samedi!- Methode post
On Saturday 27 February 2010 09:44:05 Basile Starynkevitch wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: Salut, Voilà, je cherche la limite maximum des données que l'on peut transmettre avec la methode POST dans un formulaire. Il me semble qu'en théorie il n'y en aurait pas (sauf bien sur 2^32 çàd 4Go sur les machines 32 bits). SNIP Je suis un peu surpris de la question. Cordialement Voilà, j' ai un formulaire qui fait une itération et liste les article en commande par N° de commande. Pour chaque article, on envoie la quantité réceptionnée et le prix de vente plus un index. Quand la liste est 'courte' (40/50 articles) tout marche bien. Quand la liste est plus longue (300/400 articles) rien n' est envoyé au serveur! D' ou ma question. Merci de ta réponse. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002271008.50177.tchate...@free.fr
Re: completement HS, mais c' est Samedi!- Methode post
Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr à écrit le Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:22:11 +0100 Salut, Bon, si vous trouvez que c' est trop HS, ça risque de faire la discussion du WE! Voilà, je cherche la limite maximum des données que l'on peut transmettre avec la methode POST dans un formulaire. Merci Thierry Je suppose - Lenny à jour avec les paquets de lenny (sans backport et autres subtilités) - php avec apache2 (sans passage par cli) $ grep post_max_size /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini post_max_size = 8M -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227101206.29756...@morpheusold.bulot-fr.com
Re: completement HS, mais c' est Samedi!- Methode post
On Saturday 27 February 2010 10:12:06 Grégory Bulot wrote: Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr à écrit le Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:22:11 +0100 Salut, Bon, si vous trouvez que c' est trop HS, ça risque de faire la discussion du WE! Voilà, je cherche la limite maximum des données que l'on peut transmettre avec la methode POST dans un formulaire. Merci Thierry Salut Grégory T' aurais fait la fête hier soir? Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002271022.50462.tchate...@free.fr
Re: problème d'exécution d'un script bas h en cron ou via bacula
Le 27/02/2010 10:07, Grégory Bulot a écrit : set | grep -i shell= j ai remplacé et j'obtient la meme chose : #!/bin/bash j'ai toujours l'erreur dans le même ordre d'idée j ai regarder les variables d'environement elle sont les memes UTF8 / LATIN1 j'ai toujours l'erreur merci philippe -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b88e840.7000...@worm-fr.com
Re: problème d'exécution d'un script bash en cron ou via bacula
Pardon, je débarque en plein milieu, mais quelle est l'erreur et/ou le message d'erreur? Merci --Message d'origine-- De : l3w0rM À : Grégory Bulot Cc : Debian list Objet : Re: problème d'exécution d'un script bash en cron ou via bacula Envoyé : 27 fév, 2010 10:39 Le 27/02/2010 10:07, Grégory Bulot a écrit : set | grep -i shell= j ai remplacé et j'obtient la meme chose : #!/bin/bash j'ai toujours l'erreur dans le même ordre d'idée j ai regarder les variables d'environement elle sont les memes UTF8 / LATIN1 j'ai toujours l'erreur merci philippe -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b88e840.7000...@worm-fr.com
Déplacer ma debian de partition
Bonjour, je voudrais déplacer ma debian de partition En gros pour l'instant (squeeze), le / - /dev/sda9 le /home - /dev/sda5 Le but : Faire une image de ma distribution actuelle (squeeze) sur /dev/sda2 (finalité : upgrader la distrib actuelle en SID (sera sur sda9) et garder une copie pour les jours où SID est cassée (sera sur sda2) et le tout avec un home commun sda5) Donc je présume qu'il faut procéder par 1/ Copier le système actuel de sda9 à sda2 (sans doute avec dd) 2/ Mettre à jour le fstab du système copier (mettre à jour la section / ) 3/ Mettre à jour son grub pour l'installer sur le / du sda2 4/ Mettre à jour le grub de la SID afin de le chainloader sur le sda2 Le problème : je sais (pense savoir) faire le 1, 2 et 4. Par contre je ne sais pas trop comment mettre à jour l'emplacement du grub de la distribution copiée. Des conseils ou avis ? D'avance merci, cyrille -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227112730.b8c3d7d5.cyri...@cbiot.fr
Re: Désolé pour le bruit
C' était une erreur d' index!!! Merci à Basile de ça surprise. Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002271155.20816.tchate...@free.fr
Re: grub et preference
On 27/02/2010 09:20, philippe L wrote: Bonjour, le dmesg dit : Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 (Debian 2.6.26-21lenny3) (da...@debian.org mailto:da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) je crois que c'est stable ! ( je n'ai pas de fichiers grub-pc ni grub-legacy ) merci Dans /boot/grub/menu.lst, changer la valeur default 0 en le numéro de la ligne qui va bien. -- Jean-Christophe Dubacq -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b890fbe.90...@free.fr
Re: Déplacer ma debian de partition
Le samedi 27 février 2010 10:27:30, Cyrille a écrit : Bonjour, je voudrais déplacer ma debian de partition En gros pour l'instant (squeeze), le / - /dev/sda9 le /home - /dev/sda5 Le but : Faire une image de ma distribution actuelle (squeeze) sur /dev/sda2 (finalité : upgrader la distrib actuelle en SID (sera sur sda9) et garder une copie pour les jours où SID est cassée (sera sur sda2) et le tout avec un home commun sda5) Donc je présume qu'il faut procéder par 1/ Copier le système actuel de sda9 à sda2 (sans doute avec dd) 2/ Mettre à jour le fstab du système copier (mettre à jour la section / ) 3/ Mettre à jour son grub pour l'installer sur le / du sda2 4/ Mettre à jour le grub de la SID afin de le chainloader sur le sda2 Le problème : je sais (pense savoir) faire le 1, 2 et 4. Par contre je ne sais pas trop comment mettre à jour l'emplacement du grub de la distribution copiée. Des conseils ou avis ? D'avance merci, cyrille Bonjour Cyrille, J'ai déjà procédé à cette manipulation (mais avec Lenny) et voici les remarques que j'ai à faire. - Il n'est pas n'est pas nécessaire d'utiliser dd pour copier les fichiers d'une partition à l'autre, ça prendra plus de temps pour rien. Il suffit juste de copier les fichiers en gardant les attributs (droits, utilisateurs, groupes, etc), il existe une option de la commande cp pour ça (mais je ne me souviens plus laquelle). N'hésite pas à créer un fichier texte qui va répertorier les droits sur tous tes fichiers avec la commande ls -Rl / droits.txt Moi j'avais fait l'erreur de faire une copie sans garder les droits sur les fichiers et certaines applications avaient des problèmes. Je n'arrivais par exemple plus à ouvrir une session kde parce que kdm n'arrivait plus à accéder un fichier qui avait changer d'utilisateur lors de la copie. - Lors de la copie ne copie pas les repertoires /dev, /home, /proc, /sys, /mnt, /media et /lost+found. Contente toi juste de créer ces dossiers sans copier leur contenu. Dans le cas de /mnt et /media, il faudra aussi créer les repertoires qu'ils contiennent (/media/cdrom, /mnt/windows, ...) - Je ne peux malheureusement pas te dire comment mettre à jour l'emplacement de grub sous Squeeze vu qu'il utilise grub 2 (si je ne me trompe). Je ne sais utiliser que le Grub de Lenny. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002271328.05830.yasa...@yahoo.fr
Re: Est-ce très utile comme réponse ? ( était Re: Retrouver Grub après m aj Windows)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 24/02/2010 11:13, Guillaume a écrit : Le mercredi 24 février 2010, à 11:04:33, Fabrice a écrit : 'lut, Hello et merci de la réponse. Bonjour, au hasard: http://www.google.fr/webhp#num=100hl=frq=live+cd+r%C3%A9installer+grub+de bianmeta=aq=oq=live+cd+r%C3%A9installer+grub+debianfp=72664ed443768a09 Je suis dubitatif quant à l'intérêt d'une réponse comme celle-là. Elle est pourtant autrement plus pertinente que les cinq réponses que tu as faites sur ce fil de discussion que tu as initié il y a trois jours (je suis surpris que tu n'ai d'ailleurs pas encore suivi un des liens proposés sur cette page). Je crois qu'on est tous capable sur cette liste de chercher sur Google. Il semblerai que tu incarnes la preuve du contraire. Il me semblait que, au contraire d'un catalogue dans lequel on peut lire tout et n'importe quoi, une liste comme celle-là est que ceux qui connaissent une procédure efficace en réponse à une question la proposent. Ajoute « site:http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french » dans le champs de ta recherche alors. Il ne s'agit pas d'avoir une attitude purement consommatrice en disant Allez, les gars, j'ai la flemme de chercher alors filez-moi une réponse, je ne vais pas me faire chier alors que certains peuvent le faire à ma place. Ça y ressemble pourtant beaucoup, merci de laisser tranquille le troll qui sommeille en toi. Le RTFM a au moins un intérêt, c'est de limiter à UN manuel. Là, si c'est pour se fader 15 liens avant de trouver une solution, je préfère encore me reader le fucking manual. Comme tu préfères, mais tu passeras à côté d'une quinzaine de solutions différentes et néanmoins pertinentes : comme en Perl, il y a plusieurs façons de faire, quand tu recherches par toi-même, tu as plus de chance de trouver une réponse qui te convienne (à toi, j'insiste). Je me demande bien quel est le manuel auquel tu fais référence au passage (parce que le manuel qui a réponse à tout, je veux bien me le lire aussi ;) Si tu ne t'en sors pas des méthodes que tu testes, et que tu tombes sur un problème spécifique, peut-être seras-tu capable d'exposer cette situation particulière et de générer l'envie de se pencher sur ton problème, mais un peu de lecture [0] te permettra sans doute de formuler ta question de façon plus pertinente. [0]http://www.linux-france.org/article/these/smart-questions/smart-questions-fr.html Amicalement David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuJKKQACgkQ18/WetbTC/o6kACgm8nujrzIKkYnlDWUKNADTVYS f3wAn2zce402uLYzdBg72vcICltCzN4s =APvA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hmb9b5$7n...@dough.gmane.org
Re: completement HS, mais c' est Samedi!- Methode post
Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr à écrit le Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:22:50 +0100 Salut Grégory T' aurais fait la fête hier soir? Thierry Visiblement, vu la réponse de 11h55 j'étais pas tout seul, mais admettez qu'avec les infos disponibles, je n'étais pas hors sujet. -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227151539.7e3cb...@morpheusold.bulot-fr.com
Re: Déplacer ma debian de partition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 27/02/2010 09:28, YOUNOUSS Abba Soungui a écrit : - Il n'est pas n'est pas nécessaire d'utiliser dd pour copier les fichiers d'une partition à l'autre, ça prendra plus de temps pour rien. Il suffit juste de copier les fichiers en gardant les attributs (droits, utilisateurs, groupes, etc), il existe une option de la commande cp pour ça $ man cp [...] -a, --archive identique à -dR --preserve=all Opération à faire de préférence depuis un live CD ou une autre distribution installée : certains répertoires sont « dynamiques » (/dev et /proc par exemple), et des fichiers sont en cours d'écriture au moins dans /var). J'ai fait ça il y a peu de temps, et avait utilisé rsync pour commencer la copie pendant que j'utilisais le système (en temps masqué) puis ai fini la copie ensuite depuis le une autre Debian : sudo nice -n 19 rsync -av --delete --exclude=lost+found \ --exclude=/dev/* --exclude=/lib/init/rw/* --exclude=/proc/* \ --exclude=/sys/* --exclude=/tmp/* --exclude=/home/* \ --exclude=/mnt/*/* --exclude=$repertoire_de_destination \ / $repertoire_de_destination Le rsync final (pas depuis le système en fonctionnement) avec les exclude en moins, et en changeant le répertoire racine par son point de montage ;). - Je ne peux malheureusement pas te dire comment mettre à jour l'emplacement de grub sous Squeeze vu qu'il utilise grub 2 (si je ne me trompe). Je ne sais utiliser que le Grub de Lenny. dpkg-reconfigure grub (ou grub-pc) depuis le nouveau système a ma préférence (dans un chroot avec /dev /proc et devpts monté en « bind », ou simplement depuis le CD d'installation en mode recup par exemple). Amicalement David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuJL28ACgkQ18/WetbTC/r+6gCfdehbWcN9d5rHT0YEt+umPRu3 9PYAn0PpeR3xMnwR5wveEg2ok6VYZC3k =rLJp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hmbb1m$do...@dough.gmane.org
[HS] téléphonie SIP via free et debian
Bonjour, Je débute dans le SIP. J'aimerai savoir ce que vous me conseillerai comme application simple pour utiliser le SIP de free ! Merci Mourad -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b8946eb.2080...@nativobject.net
Re: [HS] téléphonie SIP via free et debian
2010/2/27 Mourad Jaber m...@nativobject.net: Bonjour, Je débute dans le SIP. J'aimerai savoir ce que vous me conseillerai comme application simple pour utiliser le SIP de free ! Personnellement, j'utilise twinkle. twinkle - Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) SIP Phone Amicalement, Ignace M -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/b10d7e9c1002270825r1d10294bl2fe7faaac3925...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [HS] téléphonie SIP via free et debia n
Mourad Jaber a écrit : Bonjour, Je débute dans le SIP. J'aimerai savoir ce que vous me conseillerai comme application simple pour utiliser le SIP de free ! Merci Mourad salut, j'ai utilisé linphone pendant un moment. ça a très bien marché. mais il y a qqs temps en SID j'avais des problèmes de connection. Je n'ai jamais su si ça venait de linphone ou alors des site de voip. c'est du graphique gtk. Bye GiGGz -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hmbh88$s...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Est-ce très utile comme réponse ? ( était Re: Retrouver Grub après maj Windows)
Le samedi 27 février 2010, à 15:13:57, David a écrit : Bonjour, Hello et merci de la réponse. Elle est pourtant autrement plus pertinente que les cinq réponses que tu as faites sur ce fil de discussion que tu as initié il y a trois jours (je suis surpris que tu n'ai d'ailleurs pas encore suivi un des liens proposés sur cette page). Je ne suis pas surpris de mon côté puisque j'attends d'avoir une solution compréhensible et, apparemment sécurisée, pour tenter la manip sur un portable qui, je le rappelle, n'est pas le mien. Il semblerai que tu incarnes la preuve du contraire. C'est justement parce que j'ai obtenu une liste similaire, remplie de tout et de n'importe quoi, que j'ai commis le sacrilège de poser la question, de façon d'une part à ne pas avoir à me tartiner (vraiment pas le temps) toutes les réponses et, d'autre part, à ne pas risquer de planter un portable qui n'est pas le mien. Sur le mien, j'y ai mis assez le bin's en jouant les apprentis sorciers pour ne pas avoir peur de chercher, de faire des bourdes et d'essayer de les réparer. En revanche, et c'est quand même ce qui, à mon sens, fait une sacrée différence, sur un portable qui ne m'appartient pas, je n'ai ni le temps ni l'envie de tout foutre en l'air. Est-ce si difficile à comprendre ? Ça y ressemble pourtant beaucoup, merci de laisser tranquille le troll qui sommeille en toi. Peut-être faudrait-il savoir faire cette différence ? Comme tu préfères, mais tu passeras à côté d'une quinzaine de solutions différentes et néanmoins pertinentes : comme en Perl, il y a plusieurs façons de faire, quand tu recherches par toi-même, tu as plus de chance de trouver une réponse qui te convienne (à toi, j'insiste). Je me demande bien quel est le manuel auquel tu fais référence au passage (parce que le manuel qui a réponse à tout, je veux bien me le lire aussi ;) Au manuel conseillé par le RTFM qui était remplacé avec ironie par la liste des liens. Si tu ne t'en sors pas des méthodes que tu testes, et que tu tombes sur un problème spécifique, peut-être seras-tu capable d'exposer cette situation particulière et de générer l'envie de se pencher sur ton problème, mais un peu de lecture [0] te permettra sans doute de formuler ta question de façon plus pertinente. Sauf que, dans le cas présent, il n'y a pas encore de pb suite à une manip, mais une question justement formulée pour éviter qu'il y en ait. Guillaume -- Les 7 péchés capitaux de Microsoft http://fr.windows7sins.org/ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002271749.35846.bou@laposte.net
Re: [HS] téléphonie SIP via free et debia n
Bonsoir Twinkle aussi, via un bureau Gnome -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b8975cd.8020...@free.fr
Debian et capteur biométrique
Bonjour, Existe-t-il des solutions pour gérer un capteur biométrique (lecteur empreinte sur un portable) sous Debian ? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100228020928.0d3fd6a4.gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr
Re: Debian et capteur biométrique
Le dimanche 28 février 2010 02:09:28, Gaëtan a écrit : Bonjour, Hello. Existe-t-il des solutions pour gérer un capteur biométrique (lecteur empreinte sur un portable) sous Debian ? Des pistes ici : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/thinkfinger Guillaume -- Les 7 péchés capitaux de Microsoft http://fr.windows7sins.org/ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002280731.48642.bou@laposte.net
[HS]Debian et capteur biométrique
Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr à écrit le Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:09:28 +0100 Bonjour, Existe-t-il des solutions pour gérer un capteur biométrique (lecteur empreinte sur un portable) sous Debian ? N'ayant pas pratiqué sous Linux avec capteur d'empreinte, je te conseillerais, s'il est auto alimenté par le port USB, d'utiliser un port de la carte mère Ou Si carte d'extension ne brancher que cet appareil sur cette carte J'en ai installé pas mal l'année dernière, tout autre solution donne un fonctionnement erratique de l'appareil (je te vois, je te vois plus ...) -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100228083920.1264d...@morpheusold.bulot-fr.com
Problemas al iniciar daemon de Fetchmail (Era: logs de fetchmail)
El Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:26:58 -0500, Leonel Hernández Grandela escribió: El 23/02/2010 13:21, Camaleón escribió: Hum... creo que he encontrado algo. [fetchmail-users] Rotating Fetchmail log https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/fetchmail-users/2009- November/002142.html Me parece que vas a tener que añadir un comando de reinicio del servicio en el script del logrotate: (...) saludos y buen día colegas!! . resulta que me he leído lo que me ha mandado Camleón y de hecho parece que eso es lo que tendré que hacer matar el proceso y levantarlo de nuevo junto con el reseteo de logs diarios .. Ya contarás si funciona :-) pero me pasa algo ahora explico .. yo por mis endiabladas cosas como dice Camaleon :-P .. puse el fetchmailrc dentro de /etc/postfix/fetchmailrc .. entonces cuando le invoco .. /etc/init.d/fetchmail restart obvio me dice que el configfile no existe en /etc/ .. enseguida me fui hasta /etc/init.d/fetchmail y le he cambiado el parámetro donde se le informa al init.d donde va a estar la configfile de fetchmail, hasta ahí bien CONFFILE=/etc/postfix/fetchmailrc esa es la línea que he cambiado para decirle donde esta el fetchmailrc .. anja .. entonces cuando ejecuto . /etc/init.d/fetchmail start me dice que no se puede poner como background el proceso algo así .. ya hice lo mismo poniendo el fetchmailrc dentro de /ect directamente y sale el mismo error .. alguna sugerencia!!! muchas gracias a todos ... hasta la próxima .. Bueno, a ver... en el /etc/init.d/fetchmail te indica (al inicio del archivo) que el script no servirá para iniciar o detener el daemon de fetchmail si el archivo de configuración no existe en /etc/fetchmailrc así que tendrás que ponerlo donde estaba y volver a cambiar el CONFFILE. Si lo has vuelto a dejar dónde y cómo estaba, y al iniciarlo te da error, copia/pega el mensaje exacto que te saca y revisa los registros. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.02.27.09.45...@gmail.com
¡Ven y únete a Tu Trader!
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Impresora Epson FX 890 USB Como?????
Hola lista necesito instalar mi impresora en debian lenny 5 y no se como hacer es USB y debian no me lo autodetecta -- Infomed - Red de Salud de Cuba http://www.sld.cu/ -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267311165.4b89a23d9c...@webmail.sld.cu
Re: Impresora Epson FX 890 USB Como?????
El Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:52:45 -0400, padovani escribió: Hola lista necesito instalar mi impresora en debian lenny 5 y no se como hacer es USB y debian no me lo autodetecta Ejecuta lsusb para ver si es detectada. Luego, intenta configurarla desde la interfaz web de Cups (http:// localhost:631) usando el driver Generic ESC/P Dot Matrix Printer o alguno genérico para impresoras de impacto de 9 pines. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.02.27.23.20...@gmail.com
Sobre un problema con la red
Buenas noches, he estado viendo las listas de correos, pero no encuentro el problema, les comento que uso Debian Testing desde hace tiempo y no me hab'ia sucedido esto antes. Yo utilizo un cable modem de Telmex, y todo bien, hasta hace un par de dias donde se volo un fusible de la linea de telefono y me quede sin telefono e internet, me lo han restaurado pero el internet en mi debian no entra mas. He probado con Knopppix para revisar los parametros que son: ip 192.168.1.101 gw 192.168.0.254 bcast 192.168.1.255 dhcp 192.168.1.254 uso los DNS de google 8.8.8.8 y 8.8.4.4 es la misma configuracion que uso en el Squeeze como en el knoppix, en este ultimo todo anda perfecto, aun con el ruindos jala (aclaro que tengo el Ruindos por los demas usuarios de la maquina). Pero en el Debian obtengo la ip del DHCP y los parametros son identicos y no me deja salir, temo que se haya corrompido algun archivo, requiero ayuda pues la info de la maquina es sensible y ademas no quisiera tener que reinstalar nada he visitado el google y visto algunos consejos sin buenos resultados reiniciando el superservidor de internet desde ya, gracias y es un placer andar de vuela, aunque sea para dar lata saludos J -- Global Labs México Electronics Computing Department Project Manager The Business of Science: building a better world México 2010. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8825cc5b1002272019k19103943y97f49610f5696...@mail.gmail.com
problemas em abrir lixeira, rede, computador
Olá, Utilizo Ubuntu 9.04 e estou com o seguinte problema: ao clicar sobre a lixeira, ou no menu do Gnome em Locais/Computador ou Locais/Rede a janela abre e fecha rapidamente. Isto não acontecia há algum tempo atrás. Com o autoscan-network consigo localizar todos os computadores da rede do trabalho e navego na internet normalmente, ou seja, a rede está OK. Outras janelas como pasta pessoal abrem normalmente. O curioso é que este problema acontece com as máquinas de casa e do trabalho, que são completamente diferentes. O problema acontece com todos os usuários. Tentei instalar o 9.10 no micro do trabalho mas só entra no modo gráfico de segurança. No modo normal roda um pouco e trava. Fiquei com medo de instala-lo. Alguém como resolver o problema de abrir a lixeira, rede, computador? Obrigado, Antônio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b890d08.8060...@bignet.com.br
Re: problemas em abrir lixeira, rede, computador
Antonio Olinto escreveu: Olá, Utilizo Ubuntu 9.04 e estou com o seguinte problema: ao clicar sobre a lixeira, ou no menu do Gnome em Locais/Computador ou Locais/Rede a janela abre e fecha rapidamente. Isto não acontecia há algum tempo atrás. Com o autoscan-network consigo localizar todos os computadores da rede do trabalho e navego na internet normalmente, ou seja, a rede está OK. Outras janelas como pasta pessoal abrem normalmente. O curioso é que este problema acontece com as máquinas de casa e do trabalho, que são completamente diferentes. O problema acontece com todos os usuários. Tentei instalar o 9.10 no micro do trabalho mas só entra no modo gráfico de segurança. No modo normal roda um pouco e trava. Fiquei com medo de instala-lo. Alguém como resolver o problema de abrir a lixeira, rede, computador? Obrigado, Antônio Olá, Antônio. Já tentou https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br Sérgio -- Soluções em Automação e Controle Integrador Autorizado: Metaltex - Atos - Dexter - AllConverge - Dakol - Elipse - Conversoft Linux User #426387 / Ubuntu User #13964 Linux: A liberdade da escolha. A escolha da liberdade. The freedom of choice. The choice of freedom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF9vhuJ+YDTomMwA8RAvSAAJoDwkzHJK3P98vEDx5pJxeyT3xyzgCg22/u W/MTldaxqdeNLjlWF49wpig= =MVB7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b891dcb.1050...@sein.com.br
Re: problemas em abrir lixeira, rede, computador
Você está usando stable, testing ou unstable? Aqui no meu gnome da stable+testing-backports tá funiconando legal. Em 27 de fevereiro de 2010 09:16, Antonio Olinto aolinto_li...@bignet.com.br escreveu: Olá, Utilizo Ubuntu 9.04 e estou com o seguinte problema: ao clicar sobre a lixeira, ou no menu do Gnome em Locais/Computador ou Locais/Rede a janela abre e fecha rapidamente. Isto não acontecia há algum tempo atrás. Com o autoscan-network consigo localizar todos os computadores da rede do trabalho e navego na internet normalmente, ou seja, a rede está OK. Outras janelas como pasta pessoal abrem normalmente. O curioso é que este problema acontece com as máquinas de casa e do trabalho, que são completamente diferentes. O problema acontece com todos os usuários. Tentei instalar o 9.10 no micro do trabalho mas só entra no modo gráfico de segurança. No modo normal roda um pouco e trava. Fiquei com medo de instala-lo. Alguém como resolver o problema de abrir a lixeira, rede, computador? Obrigado, Antônio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b890d08.8060...@bignet.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/c647e93f1002271436ob5af295wcd51b9a3c3eeb...@mail.gmail.com
Amavis-new ou Mailscanner?
Galera, gostaria da opinião sobre qual desses scanners apresentam melhores resultados. Christiano. _ Você sabia que o Windows 7 inicia e desliga mais rápido? Clique e conheça mais. http://www.microsoft.com/brasil/windows7/default.html?WT.mc_id=1539
Re: debian squeeze tmp directory no space left
Johan Grönqvist put forth on 2/27/2010 1:05 AM: I believe the installer allows and recommends reserving some space for the root user on partitions. The intention is that a user should not be able to make the system unbootable by filling the disk. It's not the installer that dose this. It's the default operating mode of mke2fs. When creating an ext2/3 filesystem, the default space reserved for the super user is 5% of the filesystem blocks. It can be overridden with the -m switch: -m reserved-blocks-percentage Specify the percentage of the filesystem blocks reserved for the super-user. This avoids fragmentation, and allows root-owned daemons, such as syslogd(8), to continue to function correctly after non-privileged processes are prevented from writing to the filesystem. The default percentage is 5%. This is why the OP is able to write as root but not as a regular user. Your symptoms are what I would expect if the device has filled the non-reserved space, and only the root-reserved space is left. This does sound like the problem. However, attempting to identify the remaining filesystem space available to the super user is pointless. This is painfully obvious. The solution to this problem, as I stated in my first response to this thread, is to identify what application/daemon/bug/etc is filling this filesystem to capacity in the first place. No offense intended, but it sounds like some basic sysadmin skills are lacking. Unneeded old log files should be deleted, as well as any junk left in /tmp. User home directories should be pruned of unneeded excess files. Acting as a PTP service node can fill up a partition pretty quickly, no? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b88d13c.8030...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: stop automatic checkdisk on boot
On Sat,27.Feb.10, 13:32:15, Daniel Dalton wrote: Ah great, thank you. I think it was still set to check after 27 mounts or something. I had a read of the man page, and I think I have enabled what I want now. It would be wise to do your own regular checks though. The simplest way is to 'touch /forcefsck' and reboot. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wireless from the command line
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 08:43:53PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri,26.Feb.10, 08:47:46, Rob Owens wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:24:39AM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: Hi, I've had a good look around and still can't work this one out. Does anyone know how to configure wifi from the command line? I'm currently using wicd, so all my hardware is supported, however, as I rarely start X I would prefer to manage wifi connections through the cli. There is the wicd-curses interface. I have never tried it, though. I have. The UI is not the best, but it works. Funny. I would have called it the best. But it is best run automatically from a .screenrc line, in its own window in screen. -- Kind Regards, Freeman http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227170348.ga24...@europa.office
Recovered!! (was Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer))
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:01:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:41:26AM -0800, Freeman wrote: My ego may be the more delicately balanced but my system is the more precious. :) This squeeze testing cycle has been rough because of major transitions. My recent upgrade in one of the multiboot setup from stable to unstable caused unbootable system. Yep. I've never lost a file-system in 7 years of Debian until the xserver-xorg/mesa upgrade. Wait... you did not loose file system. I am writig from ex-unbootable system :-) This is typical unstable situation. Data are there. Just a broken boot system. You just need to boot system with another partition or from live CD and chroot into unbootable system after fixing obvious problem like broken /etc/resolv.conf. Then update system with good deb via aptitude in chroot. I have had several broken grub/lilo previously, too. These are easyones to fix. Sorry! Delayed by illness. Maybe I used the term unbootable too loosely. Following the big xserver-org/mesa seg-fault/crash I was at grub playing space invaders. 1.) I could reach the diversion to maintenance mode where it recommended running e2fsck on mounted partitions, which I eventually did, reluctantly. 2.) On restart I got up and running with errors flying everywhere, missing files and directories and frequent process failures. 3.) I shutdown (hard) and ran e2fsck from gparted live cd on all partitions, unmounted--about 15 minutes of fixing inodes, files and directories. 4.) On subsequent boot I could only reach a prompt that asked for a run level, to which it would reply that there are no processes left in that run level. !--But you inspired me to plug in Knoppix and and have another look.-- 5.) After about 20 minutes it dawned on me that there was no /etc directory! =8-O 6.) After restoring from a fairly close backup it is running quite well with some minor glitches that will require maybe reinstalls at worst. It seems as if the major problem throughout was the degredation, then loss, of the /etc directory. Thanks! -- Kind Regards, Freeman http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227170408.gb24...@europa.office
Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:01:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:41:26AM -0800, Freeman wrote: In which case, I pin the rolled back version to 1001. The preferences file can live on in moderation for the sake of learning. Or, just use sudo dpkg -i old-package.deb (maybe in chroot). Please read Chapter 2. Debian package management http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_rescue_with_the_dpkg_command Osamu OMG! Osamu as in Debian Reference Copyright 2007-2009 Osamu Aoki? That was an undertaking. There is a great deal of clarity in the way the reference is written. Although it provides extensive technical information, it is very accessible to the beginner becasue of the selection of background information and the carefull way it moves from general to specific. Thank you so much for that marvelous piece of work. -- Kind Regards, Freeman http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227170558.gc24...@europa.office
RE: Upgrade to Lenny?
From: b...@iguanasuicide.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Lenny? Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:03:59 -0600 In snt125-w520c423b872fb71e60d473db...@phx.gbl, Hadi Motamedi wrote: I upgraded my Debian box from Sarge to Lenny . Did you read the Release Notes? If not, you should. Also note that going directly from Sarge to Lenny isn't really supported -- it may or may not have worked completely. You should have done an intermediate upgrade to Etch. It is now running version 5.0.4 . But surprisingly I cannot connect it to Internet , as I did previously . I am trying as the followings : #ifconfig eth0 ip-address netmask netmask-bits up #route add default gw gw-address #vi /etc/resolv.conf domain domain-name nameserver dns-server I did it repeatedly when I was on my Sarge and it always got true . By I am trying for the same procedure on my new Lenny and it does not get through . Can you please let me know why ? Can you ping the gw-address? Can you ping the dns-server? Is eth0 the correct device? The output of (/sbin/ifconfig -a) might help us determine that. You should be using /etc/network/interfaces to configure your network. Then, you can use ifup and ifdown or even have the device automatically started as boot time. See (man 5 interfaces) for information about the file. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ Thank you . According to the Debian page , the current network installation iso image is 'debian-504-i386-netinst.iso' that I have tried with . I tried to define my netwirk settings according to your comment , i.e. defining them inside /etc/network/interfaces . But still the gw-address cannot be PING , nor the dns . Can you please give me a hint on this ? _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: Debian compatibility with US Robotics USR5637 external USB modem
On 2/27/2010 1:34 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mark Allums put forth on 2/26/2010 1:06 AM: On 2/25/2010 11:09 PM, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: -- partially as an emergency backup for the network, but mainly so that I can run a fax and answering machine app on the computer and get rid of my extremely low-quality answering machine. I would like to suggest another option. A router that can accept 3G cellular internet air cards. I use a Cradlepoint router and a Pantech USB modem UM175. Works astonishingly well, and you don't have to teach Debian anything. You just need a web browser with javascript. Iceweasel/Firefox, Epiphany, Konquerer, and Google Chrome all work. Can he send and receive faxes via PSTN over this 3G connection? He clearly states his main goal for the modem is fax and answering machine duty, with internet dial backup as a secondary function. Uh, no, I think. The aircards provide just internet. OP could use an internet-based fax service over the modem. Or, he might use a smartphone for the same purpose, many of the aircard routers like the Cradlepoint know about lots of phones, like Blackberries. If he had a phone that could do fax/efax, he might get away with it. Of course, my suggestion of an HP All-in-one machine is my personal preference. Printer/scanner/copier/fax in one. These are available for less than US$200.00. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b88e9b9.3060...@allums.com
Re: Two Lenny problems
On Saturday 27 February 2010 06:33:51 Cecil Knutson wrote: [snipped lengthy reply with no context] Cecil - could you possibly start interleaving or even bottom posting (after suitsble culling) your replies? This is a very busy list and I have difficulty following this thread. Thanks Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002270955.58076.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Upgrade to Lenny?
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 09:13:26AM +, Hadi Motamedi wrote: It is now running version 5.0.4 . But surprisingly I cannot connect it to Internet , as I did previously . I am trying as the followings : #ifconfig eth0 ip-address netmask netmask-bits up Herewith a correctly formatted /etc/network/interfaces for an eth0 # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.115 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 62.31.176.39 195.188.53.113 195.188.53.114 and the corresponding /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 192.168.1.1 [resolvconf was previously installed, I think - in any event, the dns-nameservers line points to my ISP's nameservers here and the single nameserver line points to my current network gateway] This also works # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.115 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 and nameserver 195.188.53.114 nameserver 195.188.53.113 nameserver 194.168.4.100 where the /etc/resolv.conf has a direct reference to three of the ISPs nameservers - if one goes, then the next one is tried: the /etc/network/interfaces no longer has the reference to dns-nameservers and /etc/resolv.conf Glad to hear that you upgraded to Lenny: use the above files as a reference if it helps, All the best, AndyC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227102853.ga15...@galactic.demon.co.uk
Re: stop automatic checkdisk on boot
On Sat February 27 2010, Andrei Popescu wrote: It would be wise to do your own regular checks though. The simplest way is to 'touch /forcefsck' and reboot. I rarely reboot, except for new kernels, or yearly vacations.. is 6 months too long? Filesystem created: Mon Sep 17 06:06:03 2007 Last mount time: Thu Jan 21 16:51:57 2010 Last write time: Thu Jan 21 16:51:57 2010 Mount count: 3 Maximum mount count: 25 Last checked: Sun Jan 17 05:18:22 2010 Check interval: 15552000 (6 months) Next check after: Fri Jul 16 06:18:22 2010 -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 http://usdebtclock.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002270542.21836@pcartwright.com
RE: Upgrade to Lenny?
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:28:53 + From: amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Lenny? On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 09:13:26AM +, Hadi Motamedi wrote: It is now running version 5.0.4 . But surprisingly I cannot connect it to Internet , as I did previously . I am trying as the followings : #ifconfig eth0 ip-address netmask netmask-bits up Herewith a correctly formatted /etc/network/interfaces for an eth0 # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.115 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 62.31.176.39 195.188.53.113 195.188.53.114 and the corresponding /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 192.168.1.1 [resolvconf was previously installed, I think - in any event, the dns-nameservers line points to my ISP's nameservers here and the single nameserver line points to my current network gateway] This also works # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.115 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 and nameserver 195.188.53.114 nameserver 195.188.53.113 nameserver 194.168.4.100 where the /etc/resolv.conf has a direct reference to three of the ISPs nameservers - if one goes, then the next one is tried: the /etc/network/interfaces no longer has the reference to dns-nameservers and /etc/resolv.conf Glad to hear that you upgraded to Lenny: use the above files as a reference if it helps, All the best, AndyC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227102853.ga15...@galactic.demon.co.uk Thank you . I modified my Lenny settings as the followings : - under /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.10.114 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.10.0 broadcast 192.168.10.255 gateway 192.168.10.2 dns-nameservers 4.2.2.4 192.9.9.3 - under /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 4.2.2.4 But still the gateway cannot be PING . Please be informed that , with respect to my low Internet bandwidth , I just installed the Base System on my Lenny . Can it be the root cause of the problem of not being able to connect my Lenny to Internet ? Please comment me . _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: Upgrade to Lenny?
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:55:12AM +, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Thank you . I modified my Lenny settings as the followings : - under /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.10.114 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.10.0 broadcast 192.168.10.255 gateway 192.168.10.2 dns-nameservers 4.2.2.4 192.9.9.3 - under /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 4.2.2.4 But still the gateway cannot be PING . Please be informed that , with respect to my low Internet bandwidth , I just installed the Base System on my Lenny . Can it be the root cause of the problem of not being able to connect my Lenny to Internet ? Please comment me . Looks reasonably OK. What happens if you do an ifup eth0? Do you get any messages in dmesg (dmesg | more will work to show you the latest contents of dmesg). Reboot - does the ethernet come up / do you get error messages? If you know that you will always use eth0, you can change the allow-hotplug eth0 to auto eth0 Base system should be enough - it's enough to allow you to get updates from the internet, for example. Do you have any other machines on your internal network? Can you ping those or other machines? If you can, please post any results / error messages. Also, you don't say what country you're in : it may be that support resources are available closer to hand :) All the best, AndyC _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227111643.ga15...@galactic.demon.co.uk
RE: Upgrade to Lenny?
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:16:43 + From: amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Lenny? On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:55:12AM +, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Thank you . I modified my Lenny settings as the followings : - under /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.10.114 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.10.0 broadcast 192.168.10.255 gateway 192.168.10.2 dns-nameservers 4.2.2.4 192.9.9.3 - under /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 4.2.2.4 But still the gateway cannot be PING . Please be informed that , with respect to my low Internet bandwidth , I just installed the Base System on my Lenny . Can it be the root cause of the problem of not being able to connect my Lenny to Internet ? Please comment me . Looks reasonably OK. What happens if you do an ifup eth0? Do you get any messages in dmesg (dmesg | more will work to show you the latest contents of dmesg). Reboot - does the ethernet come up / do you get error messages? If you know that you will always use eth0, you can change the allow-hotplug eth0 to auto eth0 Base system should be enough - it's enough to allow you to get updates from the internet, for example. Do you have any other machines on your internal network? Can you ping those or other machines? If you can, please post any results / error messages. Also, you don't say what country you're in : it may be that support resources are available closer to hand :) All the best, AndyC _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227111643.ga15...@galactic.demon.co.uk Thank you so much . At now , my Lenny has access to Internet . I wanted to install ethereal on my Lenny by trying as : #apt-get install ethereal But it cannot find it . My Lenny repository is as : deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free Can you please let me know how to modify it to have ethereal installed on my Lenny ? _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
release cycles, security supports for multiple OSes
Does anybody has a list of multiple distros/operating systems comparing e.g.: security support time for a version, or what are the release cycles, etc.? Thank you! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267278528.2365.5.ca...@ubuntu
Re: Upgrade to Lenny?
* Hadi Motamedi: Thank you so much . At now , my Lenny has access to Internet . I wanted to install ethereal on my Lenny by trying as : #apt-get install ethereal But it cannot find it . Ethereal has been renamed to Wireshark, so just install the latter. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877hpyivud@mid.deneb.enyo.de
Re: release cycles, security supports for multiple OSes
Hello, you want to visit www.debian.org Jerome Vadkan Jozsef wrote: Does anybody has a list of multiple distros/operating systems comparing e.g.: security support time for a version, or what are the release cycles, etc.? Thank you! -- Jerome BENOIT jgmbenoit-at+rezozer*dot_net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b892692.70...@rezozer.net
Re: wireless from the command line
On Sat,27.Feb.10, 09:03:48, Freeman wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 08:43:53PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: There is the wicd-curses interface. I have never tried it, though. I have. The UI is not the best, but it works. Funny. I would have called it the best. There are some usability issues. I'll file a (whishlist) bugreport... See #571720 if you're curious ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: release cycles, security supports for multiple OSes
Vadkan Jozsef wrote: Does anybody has a list of multiple distros/operating systems comparing e.g.: security support time for a version, or what are the release cycles, etc.? Something like this? http://benjamin-schweizer.de/operating-systems-lifecycle-chart.html -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b893470.7030...@runbox.no
Re: release cycles, security supports for multiple OSes
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:04:16 +0100, Odd wrote: Vadkan Jozsef wrote: Does anybody has a list of multiple distros/operating systems comparing e.g.: security support time for a version, or what are the release cycles, etc.? Something like this? http://benjamin-schweizer.de/operating-systems-lifecycle-chart.html +1 nice chart :-) It lacks openSUSE, whose EOL is 18 months and Fedora (13 months). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.02.27.15.16...@gmail.com
Re: Upgrade to Lenny?
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:00:45PM +, Hadi Motamedi wrote: If you can, please post any results / error messages. Also, you don't say what country you're in : it may be that support resources are available closer to hand :) #apt-get install ethereal But it cannot find it . My Lenny repository is as : deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free Can you please let me know how to modify it to have ethereal installed on my Lenny ? apt-get install wireshark wireshark-common tshark which will give you wireshark and the console equivalent tshark. Ethereal got renamed ?? two years ago ?? after the developer and his employer fell out. Employer owned the name, so ethereal was renamed and forked if I recall correctly. Otherwise, everything you read about ethereal should translate straight across. Hope this helps, AndyC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227153107.ga16...@galactic.demon.co.uk
Re: new mumble/apache bug
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:50:56 -0700, Chris Cannon wrote: (...) When mumble-server is installed, the apache server starts. Unless I'm just wrong about something here, I would need some help filling out an appropriate bug report. Thanks,Chris It could be related to this bug: *** php-zeroc-ice: does not depend on icecpp, results in failure to start php http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530562 *** Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.02.27.15.44...@gmail.com
Why doesn't iceweasel work with iceape
I am running Debian 5. I have iceweasel installed, and I have iceape installed. I use iceape because it allows me, on clicking on a mailto link, to open an iceape mail composer window. In trying to configure iceweasel to do the same (iceweasel defaults to opening evolution, which I understand to be much the same as microsoft outlook), I open the iceweasel Edit - Preferences - Applications - mailto option, and it displays the options Use Gmail, Use Yahoo! Mail, Always ask, and Use other, which does not give access to iceape mail composer. But, it does not display an option for Use Iceape Mail Composer, and, with iceape mail composer, in viewing the properties, and thus the launch command, the iceweaselpreferences options, do not allow for entering the command to run iceape mail composer; iceape -compose. So, iceweasel recognises proprietary email applications (gmail and yahoo mail), but, does not recognise the realted email application; iceape mail composer, and, apparently, prohibits the use of iceape mail composer, to acion mailto links. Why doesn't iceweasel work with iceape? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.1.10.1002272317350.21...@bretnewworkstation.busby.net
RE: Upgrade to Lenny?
Original Message From: motamed...@hotmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: Upgrade to Lenny? Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:00:45 + Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:16:43 + From: amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Lenny? On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:55:12AM +, Hadi Motamedi wrote: Thank you . I modified my Lenny settings as the followings : - under /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.10.114 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.10.0 broadcast 192.168.10.255 gateway 192.168.10.2 dns-nameservers 4.2.2.4 192.9.9.3 - under /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 4.2.2.4 But still the gateway cannot be PING . Please be informed that , with respect to my low Internet bandwidth , I just installed the Base System on my Lenny . Can it be the root cause of the problem of not being able to connect my Lenny to Internet ? Please comment me . Looks reasonably OK. What happens if you do an ifup eth0? Do you get any messages in dmesg (dmesg | more will work to show you the latest contents of dmesg). Reboot - does the ethernet come up / do you get error messages? If you know that you will always use eth0, you can change the allow-hotplug eth0 to auto eth0 Base system should be enough - it's enough to allow you to get updates from the internet, for example. Do you have any other machines on your internal network? Can you ping those or other machines? If you can, please post any results / error messages. Also, you don't say what country you're in : it may be that support resources are available closer to hand :) All the best, AndyC _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227111643.ga15...@galactic.demon.co.uk Thank you so much . At now , my Lenny has access to Internet . I wanted to install ethereal on my Lenny by trying as : #apt-get install ethereal But it cannot find it . My Lenny repository is as : deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free Can you please let me know how to modify it to have ethereal installed on my Lenny ? Ethereal is now called Wireshark Larry _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/380-22010262715475...@netptc.net
Re: Why doesn't iceweasel work with iceape
On Saturday 27 February 2010 16:30:08 Bret Busby wrote: I am running Debian 5. I have iceweasel installed, and I have iceape installed. I use iceape because it allows me, on clicking on a mailto link, to open an iceape mail composer window. In trying to configure iceweasel to do the same (iceweasel defaults to opening evolution, which I understand to be much the same as microsoft outlook), I open the iceweasel Edit - Preferences - Applications - mailto option, and it displays the options Use Gmail, Use Yahoo! Mail, Always ask, and Use other, which does not give access to iceape mail composer. But, it does not display an option for Use Iceape Mail Composer, and, with iceape mail composer, in viewing the properties, and thus the launch command, the iceweaselpreferences options, do not allow for entering the command to run iceape mail composer; iceape -compose. So, iceweasel recognises proprietary email applications (gmail and yahoo mail), but, does not recognise the realted email application; iceape mail composer, and, apparently, prohibits the use of iceape mail composer, to acion mailto links. Why doesn't iceweasel work with iceape? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 1. run: dpkg-reconfigure iceweasel 2. run: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser -- Jens Van Broeckhoven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002271739.27665.jens.vanbroeckho...@telenet.be
Re: Debian compatibility with US Robotics USR5637 external USB modem
Mark Allums wrote at 2010-02-26 00:06 -0700: I would like to suggest another option. A router that can accept 3G cellular internet air cards. I use a Cradlepoint router and a Pantech USB modem UM175. Works astonishingly well, and you don't have to teach Debian anything. You just need a web browser with javascript. Javascript?! I am using a cradlepoint router now and I can't imagine how Javascript is relevant. For configuring the router? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: release cycles, security supports for multiple OSes
On 27 February 2010 15:16, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:04:16 +0100, Odd wrote: Vadkan Jozsef wrote: Does anybody has a list of multiple distros/operating systems comparing e.g.: security support time for a version, or what are the release cycles, etc.? Something like this? http://benjamin-schweizer.de/operating-systems-lifecycle-chart.html +1 nice chart :-) It lacks openSUSE, whose EOL is 18 months and Fedora (13 months). Neither of which are enterprise/stable releases in the same vein at RHEL, Debian stable etc, hence not ncluded. Do Fedora even do long term support versions? kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e4f72f791002270910p3443f92et1395e81f70719...@mail.gmail.com
perl or bash question [convert strings in a txt to html links]
How can I do that in bash or perl, that I have a txt file, e.g.: $cat file.txt Hi, this is the content of the txt file, that contains links like this: http://www.somewhere.it/, and it could contain: http://somewhere.com, etc.. This is the second line, that doesn't contains links.. .. This is the XYZ line, that contains a link: http://www.somewhere.net $ ...ok.. so how could I make a regexp for this? Turning: http://website.org http://www.website.org to this: a href=http://website.orghttp://website.org/a a href=http://www.website.orghttp://www.website.org/a The solution would be: sed 'SOMEMAGIC' file.txt file.html or perl 'SOMEBIGMAGIC' file.txt file.html :D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267290722.2365.12.ca...@ubuntu
Re: release cycles, security supports for multiple OSes
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:10:56 +, Kelly Harding wrote: On 27 February 2010 15:16, Camaleón wrote: Something like this? http://benjamin-schweizer.de/operating-systems-lifecycle-chart.html +1 nice chart :-) It lacks openSUSE, whose EOL is 18 months and Fedora (13 months). Neither of which are enterprise/stable releases in the same vein at RHEL, Debian stable etc, hence not ncluded. Uh? I cannot speak for Fedora but sure openSUSE is rock-solid and has stable release cycle. I was using it in my servers and workstations for the last 6 years. Besides, the OP did mention nothing about enterprise or long term, just distros/operating systems so the table is very good but leaves many other distros (Archlinux, openSUSE, Fedora, Gentoo, openSolaris...) :-) Do Fedora even do long term support versions? I guess no. As I already said, 13 months is their EOL support cycle. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.02.27.17.26...@gmail.com
Screen shifted to left for console and X for Acer AL2016W
I have a new computer with an Intel DH55TC Motherboard. Attempts to install the i386 stable distribution failed because the installer could not find the DVD reader. I was able to install i386 testing. I have an Acer AL2106W monitor with a length/width of 1.6. When I boot the system, KDE and the _console_ are not centered on the monitor. They are too large in the vertical direction by about 1/2 cm (1/3 in). The display is shifted to the left by about 6 cm (2.5 in) so the left part of the screen in invisible and there is a black area on the right. The fonts are poor. If I create a Xorg.conf with the largest mode being 1280x1024 instead of 1680x1050, X works but the screen is stretched. Google shows that many people have had X configuration problems with this monitor. But I am also having the same problem with the console. Where is the best place to find real expertise about this problem? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b895669.4020...@comcast.net
Re: perl or bash question [convert strings in a txt to html links]
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 09:12, Vadkan Jozsef jozsi.avad...@gmail.com wrote: How can I do that in bash or perl, that I have a txt file, e.g.: $cat file.txt Hi, this is the content of the txt file, that contains links like this: http://www.somewhere.it/, and it could contain: http://somewhere.com, etc.. This is the second line, that doesn't contains links.. .. This is the XYZ line, that contains a link: http://www.somewhere.net $ ...ok.. so how could I make a regexp for this? Turning: http://website.org http://www.website.org to this: a href=http://website.orghttp://website.org/a a href=http://www.website.orghttp://www.website.org/a The solution would be: sed 'SOMEMAGIC' file.txt file.html or perl 'SOMEBIGMAGIC' file.txt file.html You might look at the brand new Bleach python library: http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/bleach-html-sanitizer-and-auto-linker-for-django-344/ That post mentions some of the problems of using a pure regex approach... of course you may know that your text file will not have any of those problems. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1840f6971002270952g530d0427kc5f29a648db14...@mail.gmail.com
Re: perl or bash question [convert strings in a txt to html links]
On 27/02/10 17:12, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: How can I do that in bash or perl, that I have a txt file, e.g.: $cat file.txt Hi, this is the content of the txt file, that contains links like this: http://www.somewhere.it/, and it could contain: http://somewhere.com, etc.. This is the second line, that doesn't contains links.. .. This is the XYZ line, that contains a link: http://www.somewhere.net $ ...ok.. so how could I make a regexp for this? Turning: http://website.org http://www.website.org to this: a href=http://website.orghttp://website.org/a a href=http://www.website.orghttp://www.website.org/a The solution would be: sed 'SOMEMAGIC' file.txt file.html or perl 'SOMEBIGMAGIC' file.txt file.html Hmm, hardly on-topic for this list, but doubtless someone will want to show off their regex skills. Just to convince us that you're not asking us to do your homework for you, what have you tried so far, wit what results? -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b895829.3070...@vanderhoff.org
Re: Why doesn't iceweasel work with iceape
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010, Jens Van Broeckhoven wrote: On Saturday 27 February 2010 16:30:08 Bret Busby wrote: I am running Debian 5. I have iceweasel installed, and I have iceape installed. I use iceape because it allows me, on clicking on a mailto link, to open an iceape mail composer window. In trying to configure iceweasel to do the same (iceweasel defaults to opening evolution, which I understand to be much the same as microsoft outlook), I open the iceweasel Edit - Preferences - Applications - mailto option, and it displays the options Use Gmail, Use Yahoo! Mail, Always ask, and Use other, which does not give access to iceape mail composer. But, it does not display an option for Use Iceape Mail Composer, and, with iceape mail composer, in viewing the properties, and thus the launch command, the iceweaselpreferences options, do not allow for entering the command to run iceape mail composer; iceape -compose. So, iceweasel recognises proprietary email applications (gmail and yahoo mail), but, does not recognise the realted email application; iceape mail composer, and, apparently, prohibits the use of iceape mail composer, to acion mailto links. Why doesn't iceweasel work with iceape? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. 1. run: dpkg-reconfigure iceweasel 2. run: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser -- Jens Van Broeckhoven The second command above, appears to be for setting the default browser. Does an equivalent command exist, for setting the default email application? Also, as an aside (as the first of those two commands, requires restarting iceweasel), whilst, when iceweasel crashes, a user can choose to restore the crashed session, like with Opera, can a session be saved, and chosen to be restored after an orderly shutdown of iceweasel, like with Opera? Thank you in anticiaption. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.1.10.1002280158300.23...@bretnewworkstation.busby.net
Re: release cycles, security supports for multiple OSes
Neither of which are enterprise/stable releases in the same vein at RHEL, Debian stable etc, hence not ncluded. Uh? I cannot speak for Fedora but sure openSUSE is rock-solid and has stable release cycle. I was using it in my servers and workstations for the last 6 years. Besides, the OP did mention nothing about enterprise or long term, just distros/operating systems so the table is very good but leaves many other distros (Archlinux, openSUSE, Fedora, Gentoo, openSolaris...) :-) I was meaning in relation to that chart, which does state 'enterprise'. SuSE have their own offering for that, hence openSUSE isn't really valid there I guess. kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e4f72f791002271028q692f44ffxf16006326f8a6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: release cycles, security supports for multiple OSes
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:28:23 +, Kelly Harding wrote: Neither of which are enterprise/stable releases in the same vein at RHEL, Debian stable etc, hence not ncluded. Uh? I cannot speak for Fedora but sure openSUSE is rock-solid and has stable release cycle. I was using it in my servers and workstations for the last 6 years. Besides, the OP did mention nothing about enterprise or long term, just distros/operating systems so the table is very good but leaves many other distros (Archlinux, openSUSE, Fedora, Gentoo, openSolaris...) :-) I was meaning in relation to that chart, which does state 'enterprise'. SuSE have their own offering for that, hence openSUSE isn't really valid there I guess. We should first define what an enterprise OS is. Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows Vista (listed in the chart) are more far away for an enterprise OS than openSUSE, I think, or at least at the same /level/, to say something :-) Solaris/openSolaris is also missing. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.02.27.18.48...@gmail.com
Re: Recovered!! (was Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer))
On 10-02-27 12:04:08, Freeman wrote: ... Following the big xserver-org/mesa seg-fault/crash I was at grub playing space invaders. 1.) I could reach the diversion to maintenance mode where it recommended running e2fsck on mounted partitions, which I eventually did, reluctantly. I would usually either boot from a rescue CD (or an installer and choose Rescue mode), or add the kernel boot option forcefsck along with the ro option (on both Debian and Red Hat systems). 2.) On restart I got up and running with errors flying everywhere, missing files and directories and frequent process failures. ... -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267294657.51...@localhost.localdomain
2.6.32 kernel needs noapic on Acer Travelmate 430 which earlier kernels did not need
I recently upgraded the kernel on an elderly Acer laptop from 2.6.26 to 2.6.32 and found that it hung just after initialising the pcmcia socket. Looking at the dmesg output from booting 2.6.26 there seemed to be something about ACPI interrupts, so I added noapic and it now boots. The machine is running sid at the latest level. Presumably this is because of some change in the kernel, how best to find out what fix has caused this? lspci output is:- 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE Host-to-AGP Bridge (rev 03) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 02:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 80) 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 02:02.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01) 02:04.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ601/6912/711E0 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller if that helps to narrow down the culprit. The machine works happily with noapic, but really such things should not be necessary, even for an old machine like this. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002271909.38277.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Re: 2.6.32 kernel needs noapic on Acer Travelmate 430 which earlier kernels did not need
David Goodenough wrote: I recently upgraded the kernel on an elderly Acer laptop from 2.6.26 to 2.6.32 and found that it hung just after initialising the pcmcia socket. Looking at the dmesg output from booting 2.6.26 there seemed to be something about ACPI interrupts, so I added noapic and it now boots. You really need to file a bug report for this. Figure out what kernel you are using (try running 'uname -r', and then match that up with 'aptitude search ~ilinux-image' to get the package name), then run reportbug linux-image-version-from-above [This depends on you having either configured your networking so that 'reportbug' can use whatever mail server you have installed to send the message, or the proper configurations in your ~/.reportbugrc file so that 'reportbug' can send directly to the Debian BTS server.] DW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b897856.5080...@sbcglobal.net
Re: debian squeeze tmp directory no space left
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 02:01:00AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Johan Grönqvist put forth on 2/27/2010 1:05 AM: [snip] No offense intended, but it sounds like some basic sysadmin skills are lacking. Unneeded old log files should be deleted, as well as any junk left in /tmp. User home directories should be pruned of unneeded excess files. Acting as a PTP service node can fill up a partition pretty quickly, no? this is why i recommend putting /tmp /var/log on their own partitions -- Listen, Al Gore is a very tough opponent. He is the incumbent. He represents the incumbency. And a challenger is somebody who generally comes from the pack and wins, if you're going to win. And that's where I'm coming from. - George W. Bush 09/07/2000 Detroit, MI signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Need a howto on virtualbox module compilation
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 09:38:48AM +0500, surreal wrote: I have compiled a virtualbox ose 3.1.4 binary deb and I want to make a binary deb having vboxdrv and related drivers. I believe there is already a package that does that Any places where I can find the links? I have placed the binaries at this place - http://code.google.com/p/virtualboxoseforifl/ -- We had a good Cabinet meeting, talked about a lot of issues. Secretary of State and Defense brought us up to date about our desires to spread freedom and peace around the world. - George W. Bush 08/01/2003 Washington, DC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Two Lenny problems
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:33:51 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote: I get silence when trying to play a .wav file with aplay. No error messages, just says Playing WAVE 'Track1.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo Rats. I was hoping you'd get an error message that might give us a clue. The sound card is, without doubt, older than 2008. I've had the system for at least two years myself and Dell support says the system shipped in 2004. OK. It is no honor to me to have stumped you. And Florian. Another mystery with respect to Debian. I have been trying to supplant Windows since getting Debian Potato, but there is some discrepancy with every installation of Debian I have done that renders it less capable than Windows. Some really weird ones, too. All I am willing to do right now is to try another installation on a completely different system. I was going to suggest trying a different sound card on your existing system. But it's your call. I have a couple of Dell systems too. One is a Dell Optiplex GX400 running Squeeze. It has sound built-in to the motherboard. alsamixer reports the card as Intel 82801BA-ICH2 and the chip as Analog Devices AD1885. Sound works fine on it. GNOME Startup and Shutdown sounds don't work, but that's a known bug. They finally got rid of the ESD in Squeeze, but that was a major change and disabling startup and shutdown sounds is a workaround for a bug that hasn't been fixed yet. Once started, GNOME system sounds works fine, although it requires some configuration. The other system is a Dell Dimension 4400 with a separate sound card. It runs Lenny. alsamixer reports the card as SBLive! Value [CT4780] and the chip as TriTech TR28602. Sound works perfectly, including GNOME system sounds. I am not comfortable with trying Squeeze, thank you. It seems futile after getting sound out of Ubuntu 9.10, which has a good driver base and a recent kernel. You know, it could just be that something went wrong with the original installation. Remember, you had hangs in epiphany-browser and iceweasel. I've never seen that before. Do you foresee any gross problems with transferring the HD from this system to another system and repeating the installation procedure? (I do!! I just remembered that the HD in this system is SATA and all my other systems are PATA.) I guess you answered your own question there. I'm tired of wiping Windows installations for no good reason. Unless you don't have enough space on the hard disk for both, you don't need to wipe Windows. (Wipe Windows. Cute metaphor. :-) ) Most Windows installations I've seen have one big C drive which takes up the whole hard disk, leaving no room for installing anything else. But that C drive is mostly free space. During installation you can shrink down the size of that partition to make room for Linux. That's what I did on the Dell Dimension 4400. I wish I had wiped Windows now, but I didn't. The Debian installer has support for this. Run the installer in expert mode and choose manual partitioning. Select the existing partition and then select Resize partition. Not all file systems are supported by the Debian installer for resizing. But I do know that FAT16, FAT32, and NTFS are supported. I had an older Dell system on which Sarge installed with no problems whatsoever, and I was s pleased. Then the HD died and I replaced it with another, reinstalled Sarge and could never get another desktop. From just changing the HD? Give me a break, please. That is strange. It makes me wonder if you made a mistake during installation. But I guess we'll never know. It is obvious to me that I am going to have to dig into Debian just as I have done with Windows and DOS. That is unfortunate because I have gotten to the point with computers now that I just want them to work, I don't want to fix them any more. I have been repairing systems for over twenty years, and the fun is gone. Now it is just frustrating as hell to get new technology that isn't any more capable, stable nor secure (in my experience) than the old. Feces!! Many thanks, again. In that case, you might want to try buying a computer with Debian pre-installed. See http://www.debian.org/distrib/pre-installed. This list is probably not exhaustive or up-to-date but will give you a good start. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/514523314.15570471267308284095.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Limited X setup
Hello, been a while since I posted, working on setting up a partition which will run mainly console programs, however, I was interested in setting up X to run a few programs (or maybe the framebuffer) a quick search of the web yielded no help. Any suggestions on where to look. Running lenny from netinstall with some console added already but no graphics yet. Also I have no interest in a GUI for this project. jwlockhart Registered Linux User #458799 this user is penguin powered -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/209603.14074...@web57514.mail.re1.yahoo.com
-i386 to amd64
I've made a new computer my first ever and I'm very pleased with it. It uses an AMD phenon II 505 build cpu on an Ausus board with 8GB ram. I used an amd64 net-installer to create the partitions and swap file on the new and larger hard drive of the new machine. Before moving an image of the old [i686] partition to the new computer I installed the amd64 kernel. I completed the install by using gparted from a rescue disk to merge the larger new partition with the old smaller one from the image. The previously installed amd64 kernel now listed on the grub2 menu was selected to boot the new computer, and up it came, without a glitch so basically I'm happy. However, it has transpired that it wasn't that simple to change from the i686 kernel to amd64 even though my 32 packages will work under the amd64 kernel Apt and Dpkg for instance don't seem to know this has happened. I would hope someone knows a command line solution. Is there a way to safely morph the old architecture into the new, like purging the i686 kernel for instance or configuring APT or dpkg to upgrade with amd64 versions. Thanks for reading. -- C -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227174446.73249...@mondo
Re: Best Video Capture Device for Debian?
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 08:08 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: I purchased a Canon DC410 camcorder and recorded on several mini cd's during a trip to Europe. Most of the mini cd's I can mount and edit the foo.vob files with avidemux. Mount fails for one of the mini cd's and my dvd player can't read it either but the camcorder can still play back the recordings. I don't want to lose these shots. The camcorder has composite output so I need to purchase a video capture card which will work with my Debian Squeeze 64 bit system. Any recommendations or experience with this problem? I realise I'm a bit late ... but this camera also seems to have an SD card slot? Can you copy the video from the DVD to the card and get it off that way? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267314547.5752.1.ca...@topaz.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz
Re: -i386 to amd64
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 05:44:46PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: [...] Before moving an image of the old [i686] partition to the new computer I installed the amd64 kernel. I completed the install by using gparted from a rescue disk to merge the larger new partition with the old smaller one from the image. The previously installed amd64 kernel now listed on the grub2 menu was selected to boot the new computer, and up it came, without a glitch so basically I'm happy. However, it has transpired that it wasn't that simple to change from the i686 kernel to amd64 even though my 32 packages will work under the amd64 kernel Apt and Dpkg for instance don't seem to know this has happened. I would hope someone knows a command line solution. Is there a way to safely morph the old architecture into the new, like purging the i686 kernel for instance or configuring APT or dpkg to upgrade with amd64 versions. It's been a while, but as I understand it, there is an -amd64 kernel available in the -i686 repos, but that doesn't mean you're running in the 64 bit architecture. That requires a number of other things to happen, including changing to a 64-bit libc and so forth. I have done the migration in place, but it's tedious and no fun. I don't remember the specifics, but it required multiple reboots and quite a bit of hackery. In other words, with the installers being so good these days, I don't think it's worth the effort. Just backup your data, export your apt selections and reinstall into a 64-bit architecture and restore your stuff. very much my .02 A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Limited X setup
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 02:24:05PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: Hello, been a while since I posted, Hi Joe! working on setting up a partition which will run mainly console programs, however, I was interested in setting up X to run a few programs (or maybe the framebuffer) a quick search of the web yielded no help. Any suggestions on where to look. I haven't tried any of this, except #1, so salt accordingly. 1. just install only X (package xorg, or even manually pick out packages) without a DE. You don't even need a window manager, you can just run whatever program you want. I used to do this for my kids... no window manager, nothing, just an instance of gcompris for them to play with. Worked fine. 2. check out xserver-xfbdev. looks pretty minimal, uses only the framebuffer, and has pretty low dependency level. might be interesting. Its man page points to TinyX which doesn't seem to be in debian, but might be worth a look. 3. There is some thing you can do to fool the X apps into thinking they are running in X, but a really just running in the framebuffer. I don't remember the details, but maybe that will help you search. good luck. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Upgrade to Lenny?
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 07:47:05AM -0800, ow...@netptc.net wrote: [... snipped 115!! lines of unnecessary quoting ...] Can you please let me know how to modify it to have ethereal installed on my Lenny ? Ethereal is now called Wireshark Larry Please learn to trim your replies at least some. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Single root filesystem evilness decreasing in 2010? (on workstations)
Hello, Usually I never ask myself whether I should organize my disks into separate filesystems or not. I just think how? and I go with a cool layout without thinking back - LVM lets us correct them easily anyway. I should even say that I believed a single root filesystem on a system was a first sign (you know what I mean ;-). But now I'm about to try a new setup for a Squeeze/Sid *workstation*, and I somehow feel I could be a little more open-minded. I'd like some input on what I covered, and more importantly, on what I may have missed. Maybe someone can point me to some actually useful lists of advantages to partitioning? I find a lot of BS around the net, people often miss the purpose of it. So, what are the advantages I see, and why don't they matter to me anymore? * Filesystem corruption containment I use ext4, and I've read enough about it to trust its developers for my workstations. I don't think that's a risky bet. In fact, I believe this old statement dates back to when we hadn't journals, in the ext2 days. * Free space issues Since I'm the only one who uses this machine, I should know if something may go wrong and eat up my entire filesystem (which is quite big for a workstation). Yes, I still monitor them constantly. * Specific mount options According to the Lenny manpage, mount(8) --bind won't allow me to set specific options to the remounted tree, I wonder if this limitation can possibly be lifted. If not, I think a dummy virtual filesystem would do the trick, but that seems kludgy, doesn't it? Pointers? I guess I could live without it, but I would actually find this quite annoying. * System software replacement Easier to reinstall the system if it's on separate volumes than conf and data? Come on.. For a workstation, I don't need a fast system recovery mechanism, and I want to minimize my backup sizes. I'd rather save a list of selections rather than a big archive of binaries. * Fragmentation optimization One of the most obvious advantages, and usually my main motivation to separate these logs, spools, misc system variable data, temporary directories, personal data, static software and configuration files. Sometimes I think I overdo it, at least for a workstation, and it becomes hard to guess all these sizes. I hate a useless gigabyte, so I often need to make use of LVM's black magic, in the end, despite all hard work. What's funny is that the physical extents now get fragmented, there's just no way around it - and I believe that to this date, LVM2's contiguous policy doesn't allow for defragmentation when it's stuck. I'm not sure I mind that much, I just don't feel it's the purpose of LVM to worry about that. I also know the performance hit is minimal, the PE sizes can be and are typically quite big, but.. it's still there and should be avoided if possible. How? Well.. why should I trust LVM more than ext4 on the fragmentation of my data? Delayed allocation is very effective and there's an online defragmenter for ext4 I can afford to run regularly now. * Metadata (i-node) table sizes I'm not sure at all about this one, since I've never read anything about it in the context of extx filesystems, and I must admit I'm not familiar with the exact architecture of these tables, but I figure this could be true in some way: a big table can be longer to seek (depending on the methods) - splitting trees in different filesystems, and thus splitting metadata in different tables should speed up their accesses. Sorry if I mislead anyone in the case this problem is not even relevant for ext4, I just know it to be true for some filesystems. At least it was. Anyway, I don't have the time to measure the impact of this, so if anybody know of some numbers somewhere, that would be great. For now, I consider this negligible. (For the record, the volume will be quite big - +1T.) * Block/Volume level operations (dm-crypt, backup, ...) Encryption (with LUKS) in particular should beat any implementation at filesystem level. I don't have any number to back that up, however (although I remember seeing some). I guess I can spare a few more CPU cycles on what I want to encrypt; do you know of any good benchmark of the main cryptographic virtual filesystems? I suppose eCryptfs must be a bit over the other FUSE-based projects, since it works in the kernel. As said earlier, I don't need a fast backup solution. I already prefer smarter filesystem-based backup systems in general. * Special block sizes for specific trees I found a maildir with a 1k block size was more convenient than the current 4k default, for example. The solution is simple, use a database. Any recommendation for a NoSQL DB for this? I'll switch to mutt. BTW, I like the simplicity of not having to export messages explicitely, so a readable virtual filesystem interface to the DB is always great. Do I overdo? Maybe a simple
Re: Anyone Care to Critique my Apt Preferences? (was Re: apt-cacher as package rollback buffer)
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:05:58 -0800 Freeman eve...@worldwidehtml.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:01:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: ... Osamu OMG! Osamu as in Debian Reference Copyright 2007-2009 Osamu Aoki? That was an undertaking. There is a great deal of clarity in the way the reference is written. Although it provides extensive technical information, it is very accessible to the beginner becasue of the selection of background information and the carefull way it moves from general to specific. Thank you so much for that marvelous piece of work. He deserves a thank you not merely for the work itself, but also for being one of the more helpful members of this list, who often points people to the section of the D-R that answers their questions .. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227212234.362344db.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Upgrade to Lenny?
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:47:05 -0800 ow...@netptc.net wrote: [lots of quoted stuff] People, trim please! Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227212434.f778bb82.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Two Lenny problems
Stephen, I was going to suggest trying a different sound card on your existing system. But it's your call. That is a good idea. I'll look to see what I have. Am I right to assume that the installation will have to be repeated in order to get the sound card recognized and configured? You know, it could just be that something went wrong with the original installation. Remember, you had hangs in epiphany-browser and iceweasel. I've never seen that before. Yeah, but Opera has had delays, but not nearly as long as Epiphany or Iceweasel, so it is hard to tell what the problem may be. And every time I change the To from your address to the debian-user address, I get multiple syntax errors from Opera (for that message and every one sent or received afterwards) which I never got before; and I have never succeeded in downloading YouTube videos here that were no problem in Pennsylvania, so it is possible that the internet connection has something to do with it. Most Windows installations I've seen have one big C drive which takes up the whole hard disk, leaving no room for installing anything else. It has been years and years since I last had one, big C drive for a Windows installation. Mainly due to virus considerations. For about the last ten years or so my usual protocol is to divide the disk into at least three partitions (OS, Swap/Temp, Programs), but usually at least five partitions. I have been able to clear trojan virus problems by deleting the OS partition only (which saves all my personal info and driver files), and the separate Swap/Temp partition eliminates a lot of the fragmentation of the C drive. The multiple partitions of Debian is one of the features that first attracted me to the OS. Oh! and multiple partitions makes disk maintenance so much easier. That is strange. It makes me wonder if you made a mistake during installation. But I guess we'll never know. I made copious notes for every Debian installation that was done. Even to the point of recording the screen prompts and my responses on a separate laptop. And I followed my notes scrupulously during the re-installation. And it was done more than once, believe me. But each installation failed to give a suitable screen to the X server, even though I gave the same H-Freq, V-Freq, resolution, monitor data, etc. And I tried several edits of the X-server configuration file, even copying from the config file that is created by the X-server test command. In that case, you might want to try buying a computer with Debian pre-installed. See http://www.debian.org/distrib/pre-installed. This list is probably not exhaustive or up-to-date but will give you a good start. I have looked several times at ready-to-use Debian systems but I have never had money to spare for computers and I still don't. The only reason I ever got into them in the first place is because my brother, as a professional engineer, wanted a 386 machine to run AutoCAD instead of his 8088, so I bought the 8088 from him as a favor. I did pay $20 for a Mac G4 once, but that is it. All the rest have been hand-me-downs or salvaged. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.u8tkszapdo2...@dimension8400
RE: Upgrade to Lenny?
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:24:34 -0500 From: cele...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Lenny? On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:47:05 -0800 ow...@netptc.net wrote: [lots of quoted stuff] People, trim please! Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227212434.f778bb82.cele...@gmail.com Thank you very much you kind guys . At now , I have the tshark installed on my Lenny . But I want to analyze my previously captured 'output.pcap' file , by the following : #tshark output.pcap Previously , when I was on my Sarge , I modified my /etc/fstab to be eble to copy files from cdrom : /dev/cdrm /mnt/cdrm iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 And I always had the ability to deal with my cdrom . But on my new Lenny , it cannot get through and it returned as : 'wrong fs type, bad options, bad superblocks on /dev/hdc' Can you please let me know how to modify it ? _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: Why doesn't iceweasel work with iceape
In trying to configure iceweasel to do the same (iceweasel defaults to opening evolution, which I understand to be much the same as microsoft outlook), I open the iceweasel Edit - Preferences - Applications - mailto option, and it displays the options Use Gmail, Use Yahoo! Mail, Always ask, and Use other, which does not give access to iceape mail composer. Hi, I just try than on Squeeze and it works, but trick is that when you browse Use other choose iceape (/usr/bin/iceape). -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b8a0038.4080...@dobosevic.com
RE: Upgrade to Lenny?
From: motamed...@hotmail.com To: cele...@gmail.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: Upgrade to Lenny? Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:23:32 + Thank you very much you kind guys . At now , I have the tshark installed on my Lenny . But I want to analyze my previously captured 'output.pcap' file , by the following : #tshark output.pcap Previously , when I was on my Sarge , I modified my /etc/fstab to be eble to copy files from cdrom : /dev/cdrm /mnt/cdrm iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 And I always had the ability to deal with my cdrom . But on my new Lenny , it cannot get through and it returned as : 'wrong fs type, bad options, bad superblocks on /dev/hdc' Can you please let me know how to modify it ? Sorry . I found my mistake . It was '/media/cdrom' . Sorry for posting the previous message . But you guys told me that for analyzing by wireshark , I need to issue as the following : #wireshark output.pcap But as I have installed just the Base System installation on my Lenny (becuase of lack of sufficient Internet bandwidth for downloading) it is returning as : 'cannot open display' Can you please let me know how can I make use of wireshark to analyze my output.pcap file just in command line prompt ? Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: Two Lenny problems
Lisi, Sorry, again. I haven't much experience with the list, so I don't know what courtesies are expected. I hope you have seen that Stephen, Florian, and I were not able to resolve the sound problem in spite of the massive help Stephen gave. I think I will try Stephen's suggestion to swap sound cards and see what difference that makes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.u8ttm4czdo2...@dimension8400
Re: Limited X setup
Hi, On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 02:24:05PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: Hello, been a while since I posted, working on setting up a partition which will run mainly console programs, however, I was interested in setting up X to run a few programs (or maybe the framebuffer) a quick search of the web yielded no help. Any suggestions on where to look. Do not install gdm/kdm/xdm/... when you need X application, start X server from startx. I thought people suggested. (I may be wring remembering things...) Some X server runs on framebuffer, some not. A few applications are designed to run directly on framebuffer. X itself is not so heavy if you know how to use lightly. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch07.en.html (GNOME/KDE are heavy ... though) Running lenny from netinstall with some console added already but no graphics yet. Also I have no interest in a GUI for this project. You do not need GUI but X is GUI. You sound like you want graphics. I do not understand what exactly you wish FYI: You can see graphics from normal non-X console of PC using zgv: SVGAlib graphics viewer razzle: constantly changing 3D stereogram generator All these use SVGAlib. This is very specialized use case though. Osamu PS: I thought there were extensive thread. Have you read posting to mailing list? People usually reply only to the mailing list... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100228072306.ga11...@osamu.debian.net
