Re: [testing] iceweasel et plugin java

2012-01-07 Thread jean
Le Sat, 7 Jan 2012 08:05:15 +0100,
zut...@laposte.net a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 
 Je viens d'installer le package sun-jre.
 
 J'ai fait un lien:
 ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/jre/lib/amd64/libjavaplugin_jni.so
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
 
 J'ai redémarré iceweasel, et... rien. :-(
 
 Il apparaît même pas sur about:plugins
 
 J'ai aussi cherché l'option activez java, et rien dans les préférences.
 
 Pour finir, j'ai cherché sur le net, mais il est indiqué la démarche que
 j'ai déjà effectué.
 
 Si quelqu'un avait une idée.
 
 D'avance merci
 

Bonjour,
Je suis en i386 sid, j'ai installé le jre de sun. Pour moi le seul lien qui 
fonctionne est avec libnpjp2.so
Mon lien complet est: libnpjp2.so - /opt/jdk7/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

Mais je ne sais pas si c'est pareil pour amd64

Cordialement

Jean




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Re: [testing] iceweasel et plugin java

2012-01-07 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le samedi 07 janvier 2012, jean a écrit...


 Je suis en i386 sid, j'ai installé le jre de sun. Pour moi le seul lien qui 
 fonctionne est avec libnpjp2.so
 Mon lien complet est: libnpjp2.so - /opt/jdk7/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

 Mais je ne sais pas si c'est pareil pour amd64

Oui, pareil, mais j'utilise le jdk d'Oracle.

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Compréhension du fonctionnement d'Ifplugd avec eth0

2012-01-07 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

J'ai configuré Ifplugd pour gérer de manière statique eth0 (ainsi,
Network Manager me laisse tranquille).
D'autre part, j'utilise également guessnet.

Quand un câble est branché, Ifplugd fait appel à guessnet qui découvre
l'endroit et lance les scripts que je lui demande.
Si je débranche le câble, Ifplugd reprend la main et demande à guessnet
de lancer les scripts down. Là aussi, tout fonctionne bien.

La seule petite chose que je n'arrive pas à faire, c'est de lancer un
script au démarrage de la machine quand aucun câble n'est branché.
Apparemment, Ifplugd ne fait pas appel à guessnet dans ce cas-là...

Ai-je oublié quelque chose dans le fonctionnement de ce daemon ?
Est-ce possible de faire en sorte qu'un script soit lancé au démarrage
de la machine si aucun câble n'est branché ?

Merci d'avance.

David.

P.S. : j'ai bien les lignes suivantes dans /etc/network/interfaces,
mais elles ne sont pas appelées
iface cable_debranche inet manual
test missing-cable
pre-up mon_script

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Re: [testing] iceweasel et plugin java

2012-01-07 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Saturday 07 January 2012 10:18:32 Jean-Michel OLTRA wrote:
 Bonjour,
 
 
 Le samedi 07 janvier 2012, jean a écrit...
 
  Je suis en i386 sid, j'ai installé le jre de sun. Pour moi le seul lien
  qui fonctionne est avec libnpjp2.so Mon lien complet est: libnpjp2.so -
  /opt/jdk7/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
  
  Mais je ne sais pas si c'est pareil pour amd64
 
 Oui, pareil, mais j'utilise le jdk d'Oracle.

Sun a été racheté par oracle, donc c'est la même chose. Et d'après 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=646524 
sun-java n'est plus disponible dans debian et on propose de le remplacer par 
openjdk-6-{jre,jdk}

Thierry

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Re: Compréhension du fonctionnement d'Ifplugd avec eth0

2012-01-07 Thread giggzounet
Le samedi 07 janvier 2012 à 10:30 +0100, David BERCOT a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 J'ai configuré Ifplugd pour gérer de manière statique eth0 (ainsi,
 Network Manager me laisse tranquille).
 D'autre part, j'utilise également guessnet.
 
 Quand un câble est branché, Ifplugd fait appel à guessnet qui découvre
 l'endroit et lance les scripts que je lui demande.
 Si je débranche le câble, Ifplugd reprend la main et demande à guessnet
 de lancer les scripts down. Là aussi, tout fonctionne bien.
 
 La seule petite chose que je n'arrive pas à faire, c'est de lancer un
 script au démarrage de la machine quand aucun câble n'est branché.
 Apparemment, Ifplugd ne fait pas appel à guessnet dans ce cas-là...
 
 Ai-je oublié quelque chose dans le fonctionnement de ce daemon ?
 Est-ce possible de faire en sorte qu'un script soit lancé au démarrage
 de la machine si aucun câble n'est branché ?
 
 Merci d'avance.
 
 David.
 
 P.S. : j'ai bien les lignes suivantes dans /etc/network/interfaces,
 mais elles ne sont pas appelées
 iface cable_debranche inet manual
   test missing-cable
   pre-up mon_script
 

Salut,

ton script doit être lancé uniquement qd aucun réseau n'est détecté ? ou
à chaque démarrage ? On peut savoir ce que ce script fait ?

Je ne pense pas que ça soit possible avec ifplugd. Sinon demande à
l'auteur du prog. si je me souviens bien je lui avais posé des questions
il y a très longtemps et il m'a répondu rapidement.

Bye
Guillaume 


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Re: ConkyForecast

2012-01-07 Thread Frédéric Marécaille
Je n'ai pas de fichiers .xoarorc, apparemment, le site weather.com a
changé sa façon de faire. J'ai tenté une réinscription sur le site comme
la première fois mais je ne reçois pas le XOAP_PARTNER_ID ni le
XOAP_LICENCE_KEY

Je vais tenter de fouiller sur leur site

L vendredi 06 janvier 2012 à 11:09:13, Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :
 On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 22:45:59 +0100
 Frédéric Marécaille genpash...@lavabit.com wrote:
 
  
  Les erreurs en console sont 
  ERROR: error reading weather data Invalid License Key
  ERROR: Location FRXX is not in cache
  ERROR: Failed to load the location in cache
 
 A vue de nez ta clé est soit invalide, soit peut-être périmée (1
 an?); est-ce que ton ~/.xoarorc a changé?
 
 Si rien n'y fait, refais la manip pour obtenir de nouveaux ID  clé.
 
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Re: Cartes graphiques Intel intégrée au CPU et Debian

2012-01-07 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
andré, 2012-01-06 20:56+0100:
 La question que je me pose est la suivante, la configuration avancée
 avec une carte graphique intégrée au CPU, est-elle compatible avec les
 distributions deb ?

Ça ne dépend pas de la distribution mais des pilotes du noyau et
d'X.Org. À l'exception des cartes Poulsbo, toutes les cartes Intel sont
normalement impeccablement prises en charge par Linux et X.Org, Intel y
veillent eux-mêmes.

Les cartes Poulsbo étant justement une exception à cela, le mieux est de
vérifier en posant la question sur le salon IRC #intel-gfx sur Freenode.

Après, s'il s'agit d'une carte très récente, il est possible qu'elle ne
soit prise en charge que par les distributions très récentes comme la
Debian sid ou testing.

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Re: [testing] iceweasel et plugin java

2012-01-07 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
zut...@laposte.net, 2012-01-07 08:05+0100:
 Je viens d'installer le package sun-jre.

Ça n'existe pas, mais je suppose que tu as plutôt installé
sun-java6-jre. Ce qui ne suffit pas. C'est le paquet sun-java6-plugin
qu'il te faut.

En revanche, il faut que tu sache qu'Oracle ont cessé de distribuer Java
sous une licence autorisant sa redistribution par Debian, par
conséquent, à partir de la prochaine version de Debian, Wheezy, il n'y
aura plus de paquet permettant d'installer Java : il faudra utiliser
OpenJDK à la place.

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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Grégory Bulot
Bonjour, Bonsoir, 

Le Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:02:39 +0100, Pierre Bernard, vous avez écrit :

 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f0:ad:4e:00:8d:f1


 eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f0:ad:4e:00:8d:f2
   inet addr:192.168.0.19  Bcast:192.168.0.255

 uap0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:24:23:3d:a7:9e
   inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255

 On dirait que tout va bien au niveau de eth0 (?)
 pourtant impossible de voir le Dreamplug sur mon réseau local.
 Je viens donc chercher de l'aide :-)

Je ne connais pas dreamplug, mais je tente ceci :

Non cela ne va pas bien pour eth0 (interface de routage ?), elle est up
mais n'a pas d'adresse ip (cela ne signifie pas toujours un problème
surtout si eth0 sert d'interface de routage)

par contre eth1 avec 192.168.0.19 correspond à quoi ?

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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Grégory Bulot
Bonjour, Bonsoir, 

merci de répondre sur la liste

Le Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:53:43 +0100, Pierre Bernard, vous avez écrit :

 Oui, c'est bizarre, peu de temps avant eth0 avait un 192.168.0.13.
 Et eth1 correspond à l'autre prise ethernet, et, chose bizarre aussi,
 il n'y a rien branché dessus (en fait j'avais bien branché le cable
 sur eth1 précédemment et peut-etre l'adresse IP 192.168.0.19 est
 restée ?).
 
 J'ai rebranché le cable sur eth0 (et rien sur eth1) et voila ce que
 donne ifconfig sur le Dreamplug :
[...]
 Pourtant, sur un autre PC, impossible de se connecter au Dreamplug :
 
 ssh 192.168.0.13
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.13 port 22: Connection timed out
 
 Je ne comprends pas...

depuis ce boîtier (histoire d'éliminer les trucs basiques) :

netstat -peanut : le ssh n'est peut être pas sur le port 22

ping -I eth0 www.google.fr
ping -I eth0 8.8.8.8 (au cas où il n'y a pas ce qu'il faut)


Ensuite il faudrait savoir a quoi sert vraiement eth0 et eth1 : c'est
peut-être pour connecter une box xdsl dessus. du coup il est peut être
rassurant que l'ont ne puisse y rentrer en ssh depuis ces ports.
un iptables -L pourrait aider à lever ce doute.



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Re: Cartes graphiques Intel intégrée au CPU et Debian

2012-01-07 Thread andré



Merci bcp pour votre réponse, je vais suivre le conseil,
Bon W-E  à tous.
@ndré ;-)

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Re: ConkyForecast

2012-01-07 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:04:06 +0100
Frédéric Marécaille genpash...@lavabit.com wrote:

 Je n'ai pas de fichiers .xoarorc,

Ca, c'est  un PB pcq la doc dit que ton ID  ta clé doivent se
trouver dans ce fichier, sur la même ligne, séparés par une espace.

 apparemment, le site weather.com a
 changé sa façon de faire. J'ai tenté une réinscription sur le site comme
 la première fois mais je ne reçois pas le XOAP_PARTNER_ID ni le
 XOAP_LICENCE_KEY

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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Salut,

Pierre Bernard a écrit :
 
 root@tac:~# ifconfig
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f0:ad:4e:00:8d:f1
   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[...]
 On dirait que tout va bien au niveau de eth0 (?)

Non : comme déjà signalé, elle n'a pas de configuration IP mais surtout
il manque le flag RUNNING, donc l'interface n'est pas opérationnelle.
Généralement c'est un problème de pilote, de firmware ou de liaison. Les
voyants des ports aux deux extrémités du câble sont-ils bien allumés ?

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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Pierre Bernard
 merci de répondre sur la liste

Désolé.
Et merci d'être si réactif !
J'ai fait comme demandé :

netstat -peanut
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address
State   User   Inode   PID/Program name
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:897   0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  0  44942417/famd
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  0  38011884/portmap
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:53  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  0  49242542/dnsmasq
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:21  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  0  44072395/inetd
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  0  68412914/sshd
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  0  42662328/exim4
tcp0  0 192.168.1.1:22  192.168.1.103:42015
ESTABLISHED 0  71682995/sshd: pierre [
tcp0  0 192.168.0.13:22 192.168.1.103:34361
ESTABLISHED 0  69452945/sshd: pierre [
tcp6   0  0 :::6600 :::*
LISTEN  0  47832479/mpd
tcp6   0  0 :::139  :::*
LISTEN  0  45802408/smbd
tcp6   0  0 :::53   :::*
LISTEN  0  49262542/dnsmasq
tcp6   0  0 :::22   :::*
LISTEN  0  68392914/sshd
tcp6   0  0 :::445  :::*
LISTEN  0  45782408/smbd
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:14857   0.0.0.0:*
 10471972542/dnsmasq
udp0272 0.0.0.0:87150.0.0.0:*
 10472362542/dnsmasq
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:61740.0.0.0:*
 10471672542/dnsmasq
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:41763   0.0.0.0:*
 10471932542/dnsmasq
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:53  0.0.0.0:*
 0  49232542/dnsmasq
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:14402   0.0.0.0:*
 10472282542/dnsmasq
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:67  0.0.0.0:*
 0  49102537/udhcpd
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:68  0.0.0.0:*
 0  68652934/dhclient3
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:68  0.0.0.0:*
 0  37341863/dhclient3
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:80410.0.0.0:*
 10471942542/dnsmasq
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:*
 0  38001884/portmap
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:27263   0.0.0.0:*
 10472272542/dnsmasq
udp0  0 192.168.0.13:1370.0.0.0:*
 0  70072406/nmbd
udp0  0 192.168.1.1:137 0.0.0.0:*
 0  54232406/nmbd
udp0  0 192.168.0.19:1370.0.0.0:*
 0  44592406/nmbd
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:137 0.0.0.0:*
 0  44522406/nmbd
udp0  0 192.168.0.13:1380.0.0.0:*
 0  70082406/nmbd
udp0  0 192.168.1.1:138 0.0.0.0:*
 0  54242406/nmbd
udp0  0 192.168.0.19:1380.0.0.0:*
 0  44602406/nmbd
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:138 0.0.0.0:*
 0  44532406/nmbd
udp0544 0.0.0.0:39361   0.0.0.0:*
 10472352542/dnsmasq
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:25853   0.0.0.0:*
 10471962542/dnsmasq
udp6   0  0 :::53   :::*
 0  49252542/dnsmasq

 ping -I eth0 www.google.fr

Ne donne rien (disons en moins d'une minute).

 ping -I eth0 8.8.8.8 (au cas où il n'y a pas ce qu'il faut)

ping -I eth0 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) from 192.168.0.13 eth0: 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=58.7 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=46.7 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=47.7 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=47.2 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=45.6 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=6 ttl=54 time=46.9 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=7 ttl=54 time=47.4 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=8 ttl=54 time=46.4 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=9 ttl=54 time=48.1 ms
^C
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8011ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 45.672/48.361/58.757/3.743 ms

 Ensuite il faudrait savoir a quoi sert vraiement eth0 et eth1 : c'est
 peut-être pour connecter une box xdsl dessus. du coup il est peut être
 rassurant que l'ont ne puisse y rentrer en ssh depuis ces ports.
 un iptables -L pourrait aider à lever ce doute.

Je préciser que ssh a déjà 

Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Grégory Bulot
Bonjour, Bonsoir, 

Le Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:49:24 +0100, Pierre Bernard, vous avez écrit :

 netstat -peanut

 tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*
 LISTEN  0  68412914/sshd

bon ça écoute sur toutes les interfaces sur le port 22, tout va bien il
semblerait. même en ipv6, cf 3 lignes plus bas.

 tcp0  0 192.168.1.1:22  192.168.1.103:42015
 ESTABLISHED 0  71682995/sshd: pierre [
 tcp0  0 192.168.0.13:22 192.168.1.103:34361
 ESTABLISHED 0  69452945/sshd: pierre [

 tcp6   0  0 :::22   :::*
 LISTEN  0  68392914/sshd

Sauf erreur de ma part, le ssh fonctionne en wifi et sur eth0 car vous
êtes connecté en tant que pierre sur les 2 interfaces




  ping -I eth0 www.google.fr
 
 Ne donne rien (disons en moins d'une minute).

ok, c'est pas bin grave pour l'instant, mais faudra lui dire, plus tard
ouk's'est qu'il est son dns

 
  ping -I eth0 8.8.8.8 (au cas où il n'y a pas ce qu'il faut)
 
 ping -I eth0 8.8.8.8
 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) from 192.168.0.13 eth0: 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=58.7 ms

bah, je dois pas avoir les yeux en face des trous, mais pour moi tout
fonctionne correctement sur cette boite.

Faudrait depuis votre pc lui changer son adresse ip de 192.168.1.x en
192.168.0.x ça fonctionnera sûrement mieux.


  [...] ports. un iptables -L pourrait aider à lever ce doute.
 
 Je préciser que ssh a déjà fonctionné sur eth0 (j'en suis presque
 sûr). Le Dreamplug est simplement une (petite) machine normale (mais
 sans sortie vers un écran),
 qui devrait me servir de serveurs divers (impression, musique,
 sauvegarde, etc).

mode HS 
c'est quoi comme matos ? taille disque (ssd ?) ?
cat /proc/cpuinfo = j'aime bien regarder plus particulièrement les
bogomips : valeur toute relative, mais amusante :-D
/mode HS


 Ces infos vous disent-elles où est le pb ?

Vu le presque sûr je pense qu'un iptables -L (je suppose que
cela n'est plus ipchains pour cette machine) pourrait aider a voir
quelque chose (plutôt en pièce jointe, pour éviter la coupure à
80caractères dans les mails) ... si le problème est toujours d'actualité



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Re: Cartes graphiques Intel intégrée au CPU et Debian

2012-01-07 Thread Steve B

On 01/07/2012 01:12 PM, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:

andré, 2012-01-06 20:56+0100:

La question que je me pose est la suivante, la configuration avancée
avec une carte graphique intégrée au CPU, est-elle compatible avec les
distributions deb ?


Après, s'il s'agit d'une carte très récente, il est possible qu'elle ne
soit prise en charge que par les distributions très récentes comme la
Debian sid ou testing.



Bonjour,

Il me semble que les IGP des processeurs SandyBridge (i3, i5 et i7 
2XXX), ne sont supportés qu'à partir du noyau 3. Donc à voir avec les 
noyaux disponibles pour Squeeze (éventuellement en backport).
La partie CPU est supportée sans problème et fonctionnera avec une carte 
graphique séparée sinon.


Au sujet des deux configurations présentées, je ne sais pas si elles 
t'ont été proposées au même prix, mais c'est pas vraiment la même came...


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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Pierre Bernard
Je réponds toute de suite à la question sur le cable ethernet : oui il
y a des voyants allumés sur la prise,
a priori pas de probleme de ce coté là.

 Sauf erreur de ma part, le ssh fonctionne en wifi et sur eth0 car vous
 êtes connecté en tant que pierre sur les 2 interfaces

Connecté en wifi oui mais en eth0 je ne suis pas au courant !?!?
(justement, le problème c'est que je n'arrive pas à me connecter via eth0)

  ping -I eth0 8.8.8.8 (au cas où il n'y a pas ce qu'il faut)
 ping -I eth0 8.8.8.8
 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) from 192.168.0.13 eth0: 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=58.7 ms
 bah, je dois pas avoir les yeux en face des trous, mais pour moi tout
 fonctionne correctement sur cette boite.

... je ne la vois pas dans mon réseau local (où elle est supposé
être 192.168.0.13).

 Faudrait depuis votre pc lui changer son adresse ip de 192.168.1.x en
 192.168.0.x ça fonctionnera sûrement mieux.

Je ne sais pas si j'ai été très clair sur un point : je suis connecté par WIFI
au Dreamplug mais pas via le réseau local (routeur Freebox), c'est que
le Dreamplug est un access point WIFI (je dois donc déconnecter mon
autre PC du réseau local et le connecter au point d'acces du Dreamplug),
et c'est là que le Dreamplug est 192.168.1.1 (pas pour la Freebox).

  [...] ports. un iptables -L pourrait aider à lever ce doute.

Voici, c'est court :
root@tac:~# iptables -L
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
ACCEPT tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:www

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

 mode HS
 c'est quoi comme matos ? taille disque (ssd ?) ?
 cat /proc/cpuinfo = j'aime bien regarder plus particulièrement les
 bogomips : valeur toute relative, mais amusante :-D
 /mode HS

Voici :
root@tac:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor   : Feroceon 88FR131 rev 1 (v5l)
BogoMIPS: 1192.75
Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp
CPU implementer : 0x56
CPU architecture: 5TE
CPU variant : 0x2
CPU part: 0x131
CPU revision: 1
Hardware: Marvell GuruPlug Reference Board
Revision: 
Serial  : 

C'est une petite boite à 130 euros qui se branche directement sur une
prise de courant :
http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-5-dreamplugs.aspx
Consommation tres raisonnable et pas de ventilateur.

Merci d'essayer de m'aider.

PB

PS : j'ai un second Dreamplug (identique au premier) qui lui
fonctionne très bien dans le réseau local. Si ca peut aider (?).

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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Grégory Bulot a écrit :
 
 tcp0  0 192.168.1.1:22  192.168.1.103:42015
 ESTABLISHED 0  71682995/sshd: pierre [
 tcp0  0 192.168.0.13:22 192.168.1.103:34361
 ESTABLISHED 0  69452945/sshd: pierre [
[...]
 Sauf erreur de ma part, le ssh fonctionne en wifi et sur eth0 car vous
 êtes connecté en tant que pierre sur les 2 interfaces

Ah non : il est connecté sur les deux adresses, nuance.
Mais a priori par la même interface qui est celle du wifi, vu l'adresse
du client dans les deux cas.

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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:36:13 +0100
Pierre Bernard pierre.herve.bern...@gmail.com wrote:

 Revision  : 
 Serial: 

 PS : j'ai un second Dreamplug (identique au premier) qui lui
 fonctionne très bien dans le réseau local. Si ca peut aider (?).
 
Ben vérifie donc s'il a aussi ces champs à 0, ce qui paraît
relativement anormal.

Sinon, vérifie aussi, en montant un svr DHCP, si:
1- le plug envoie une telle requête,
2- ça marche et qu'il prend l'adresse IP envoyée par le svr.
(les solid state devices ont tendance à retomber sur les parms
d'origine en cas de PB; c'est le cas par ex. pour ma laserjet qui
repasse en 192.0.0.192 en cas de micro-coupure, au lieu de DHCP).

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Re: ConkyForecast

2012-01-07 Thread Frédéric Marécaille
En fait, ces informations sont enregistrées dans le fichier
conkyForecast.config.

J'ai envoyé directement un mail à l'équipe Weather.com, je serais fixé
au moins ;-))

Le samedi 07 janvier 2012 à 03:30:47, Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :
 On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:04:06 +0100
 Frédéric Marécaille genpash...@lavabit.com wrote:
 
  Je n'ai pas de fichiers .xoarorc,
 
 Ca, c'est  un PB pcq la doc dit que ton ID  ta clé doivent se
 trouver dans ce fichier, sur la même ligne, séparés par une espace.
 
  apparemment, le site weather.com a
  changé sa façon de faire. J'ai tenté une réinscription sur le site comme
  la première fois mais je ne reçois pas le XOAP_PARTNER_ID ni le
  XOAP_LICENCE_KEY
 
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Re: Générer des docs mono ou mutli-pages

2012-01-07 Thread moi-meme
Le Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:20:01 +0100, Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :

 Wai, vu; ce qui me chagrine un peu cependant, c'est la gestion auto des
 sauts de pages (fermeture du cadre sur la page 1 et
 réouverture+prolongation sur la page 2 pour avoir les totaux en pied de
 page) - c'est pô gagné.

c'est pô simple :-))

Le problème : quand on veut simple cela ne peut pas coller exactement à tes 
désirs. Il y a toujours du tuning à prévoir.

avec les mains dans le cambouis tu peux modifier pas mal de choses. Regarde
 l'onglet hints sur le site, c'est plein d'idées, en particulier sous
 LaTeX pour ajouter des packages (longtable par exemple)


PS : je ne fournis pas le savon

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Re: Générer des docs mono ou mutli-pages

2012-01-07 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
On 07 Jan 2012 21:24:01 GMT
moi-meme chie...@free.fr wrote:

 
 Le problème : quand on veut simple cela ne peut pas coller exactement à tes 
 désirs. Il y a toujours du tuning à prévoir.
 
 avec les mains dans le cambouis tu peux modifier pas mal de choses. Regarde
  l'onglet hints sur le site, c'est plein d'idées, en particulier sous
  LaTeX pour ajouter des packages (longtable par exemple)

En fait je viens de trouver une class python qui marche avec
Reportlab et qui fait déjà la moitié du boulot (la liste  sa césure
auto en hauteur), donc pour l'instant je laisse tomber Latex, parce
qu'entre installer 3.5 ou 700 MB...

 PS : je ne fournis pas le savon

Hon hon, monsieur aurait-t'il fait un séjour dans les geôles de sa
république bananière qui lui aurait laissé un souvenir cuisant? ]:-p)

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Noyaux backport [Re: Cartes graphiques Intel intégrée au CPU et Debian]

2012-01-07 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:07:53 +0100
Steve B b.st...@gmx.com a écrit:


 Bonjour,
 
 Il me semble que les IGP des processeurs SandyBridge (i3, i5 et i7 
 2XXX), ne sont supportés qu'à partir du noyau 3. Donc à voir avec les 
 noyaux disponibles pour Squeeze (éventuellement en backport).
 La partie CPU est supportée sans problème et fonctionnera avec une carte 
 graphique séparée sinon.
 

Je rebondis sur les noyaux backport pour squeeze. Comment fait-on pour les
installer vu qu'il manque tous les paquets firmware-* ?

Gaëtan

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Re: Noyaux backport [Re: Cartes graphiques Intel intégrée au CPU et Debian]

2012-01-07 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 23:29:14 +0100
Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr wrote:

 
 Je rebondis sur les noyaux

Ca doit faire mal.

 backport pour squeeze. Comment fait-on pour les
 installer vu qu'il manque tous les paquets firmware-* ?

firmware-non-free est dispo dans backports; sinon tu testes si les
packages de sid s'installent, et si ce n'est pas le cas tu extraits
les firmwares et tu les colles dans /lib/firmware

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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Pierre Bernard
 Revision      : 
 Serial        : 
 PS : j'ai un second Dreamplug (identique au premier) qui lui
 fonctionne très bien dans le réseau local. Si ca peut aider (?).
 Ben vérifie donc s'il a aussi ces champs à 0, ce qui paraît
 relativement anormal.

Oui, il a bien ces champs à 0, donc pas de probleme ici.

 Sinon, vérifie aussi, en montant un svr DHCP, si:
 1- le plug envoie une telle requête,
 2- ça marche et qu'il prend l'adresse IP envoyée par le svr.
 (les solid state devices ont tendance à retomber sur les parms
 d'origine en cas de PB; c'est le cas par ex. pour ma laserjet qui
 repasse en 192.0.0.192 en cas de micro-coupure, au lieu de DHCP).

Merci pour l'aide mais le langage est un peu trop technique (monter
un serveur DHCP)
pour le béotien que je suis :-)

PB

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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:20:55 +0100
Pierre Bernard pierre.herve.bern...@gmail.com wrote:

je le remets dans le thread.

(personne n'aurait un filtre pour claws afin qu'il privilégie
 la ML même si elle est juste en CC: et jarte le reste?)

 
 Oui, il a bien ces champs à 0, donc pas de probleme ici.  

Ok (mais ça reste zarb).
 
  Sinon, vérifie aussi, en montant un svr DHCP, si:
  1- le plug envoie une telle requête,
  2- ça marche et qu'il prend l'adresse IP envoyée par le svr.
  (les solid state devices ont tendance à retomber sur les parms
  d'origine en cas de PB; c'est le cas par ex. pour ma laserjet qui
  repasse en 192.0.0.192 en cas de micro-coupure, au lieu de DHCP).  
 
 Merci pour l'aide mais le langage est un peu trop technique (monter
 un serveur DHCP)
 pour le béotien que je suis :-)  

* Installer le package: isc-dhcp-server
* dans /etc/dhcp, créer le fichier dhcpd.conf avec le contenu
  suivant (sans ' commentaire', et sans tabulations):

ddns-update-style none;
option domain-name-servers ns1.example.org;  le nom ou l'adresse IP de ton DNS
 (ou de ta box si elle en fait 
office)
default-lease-time 3600;
max-lease-time 7200;
authoritative;
log-facility local7;

subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {   ou 192.16.0.0 si c'est ton cas
range 192.168.1.250 192.168.1.253;
option domain-name-servers hhh.ddd;  le nom de ton server: host.domain
option domain-name mondomain;  le nom de ton domain
option routers 192.168.1.1;  l'adresse IP de la box
option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;  ou 192.168.0.255 si c'est ton cas
default-lease-time 3600;
max-lease-time 7200;
}

un restart, suivi par un:

# tail /var/log/syslog -f

dans une console pour voir ce qui se passe, puis:

reboot du plug

SI il demande une adresse IP par DHCP, tu verras qq chose comme:

Jan  8 00:38:14 anubis dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:70:c1:c8:ae:60 via eth0
Jan  8 00:38:14 anubis dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.250 to 00:70:c1:c8:ae:60 
via eth0
Jan  8 00:38:14 anubis dhcpd: Dynamic and static leases present for 
192.168.1.250.
Jan  8 00:38:14 anubis dhcpd: Remove host declaration ljet or remove 
192.168.1.250
Jan  8 00:38:14 anubis dhcpd: from the dynamic address pool for 192.168.1.0/24
Jan  8 00:38:14 anubis dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.250 (192.168.1.25) from 
00:70:c1:c8:ae:60 via eth0
Jan  8 00:38:14 anubis dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.1.250 to 00:70:c1:c8:ae:60 via 
eth0

dans la console ET ton plug sera online; ne restera plus qu'à 
le reconfigurer en statique par son I/F web.


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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 12:20:55AM +0100, Pierre Bernard a écrit :
  Revision      : 
  Serial        : 
  PS : j'ai un second Dreamplug (identique au premier) qui lui
  fonctionne très bien dans le réseau local. Si ca peut aider (?).
  Ben vérifie donc s'il a aussi ces champs à 0, ce qui paraît
  relativement anormal.
 
 Oui, il a bien ces champs à 0, donc pas de probleme ici.

Pas de problème ici non plus:

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo 
Processor   : Feroceon 88FR131 rev 1 (v5l)
BogoMIPS: 1199.30
Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp 
CPU implementer : 0x56
CPU architecture: 5TE
CPU variant : 0x2
CPU part: 0x131
CPU revision: 1

Hardware: Marvell OpenRD Ultimate Board
Revision: 
Serial  : 

D'après les moteurs de recherche, les champs sont à zéro dans un grand nombre
de machines Marvell.

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Re: Dreamplug, connection ethernet

2012-01-07 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:01:03 +0900
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:

 
 $ cat /proc/cpuinfo 
 Processor : Feroceon 88FR131 rev 1 (v5l)

J'aime bien le nom du CPU:)

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Menguji Hasil Penerjemahan Website Debian.

2012-01-07 Thread Izharul Haq
Salam,

Petunjuk untuk melihat hasil terjemahan sudah saya tambahkan di
http://debian-id.alioth.debian.org/web_page_translation_manual.html?updated#SEC3

Terima kasih kepada:
1. Mahyuddin Susanto
2. Dhani Setiawan
3. Qalbi M.R
4. Samsul Maarif

atas partisipasinya dalam proyek penerjemahan ini, berikutnya siapa yang
akan bergabung? :)

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Re: Menguji Hasil Penerjemahan Website Debian.

2012-01-07 Thread Toto Yulianto
2012/1/8 Izharul Haq atoz.chev...@yahoo.com:
 Salam,

 Petunjuk untuk melihat hasil terjemahan sudah saya tambahkan di
 http://debian-id.alioth.debian.org/web_page_translation_manual.html?updated#SEC3

 Terima kasih kepada:
 1. Mahyuddin Susanto
 2. Dhani Setiawan
 3. Qalbi M.R
 4. Samsul Maarif

 atas partisipasinya dalam proyek penerjemahan ini, berikutnya siapa yang
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kalau mau ikutan gimana ya cara.na ?


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Re: Plugin para Iceweasel 3.5.16 en Squeze 2.6.32

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:04:41 -0200, ciracusa escribió:

 Tengo una netbook con Iceweasel 3.5.16 y cuando me conecto a algunas
 cámaras IP tengo el siguiente problema.
 
 Si la cámara está configurada para JPEG puedo ver el video emitido,
 ahora si la tengo configurada como MPEG me dice que el navegador no
 tiene los plugins necesarios.
 
 Y cuando le doy descargar desde el mismo navegador no me descarga ningún
 plugin.
 
 Alguien sabe que paquete debería instalar para solucionar esto?

Algún complemento te faltará por instalar.

Te indico los que tengo en mi lenny para Firefox (about:plugins) junto 
con su biblioteca asociada:

***
Shockwave Flash
Archivo: libflashplayer.so

Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_26
Archivo: libnpjp2.so

Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.22.2
Archivo: libtotem-basic-plugin.so

QuickTime Plug-in 7.2.0
Archivo: libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
 
DivX® Web Player
Archivo: libtotem-mully-plugin.so
 
Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
Archivo: libtotem-gmp-plugin.so

Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible (compatible; Totem)
Archivo: libtotem-complex-plugin.so

Shockwave Flash
Archivo: libswfdecmozilla.so

iTunes Application Detector
Archivo: librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
***

De los archivos *.mpg/*.mpeg se encarga Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.22.2

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Re: Problema en Debian Squeze 2.6.26 con OpenVZ

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:53:22 -0200, ciracusa escribió:

 En el día de la fecha tuve algunos inconvenientes para encender uno de
 los equipos y viendo el log (ya que el mismo no tenía monitor) veo lo
 que adjunto en la foto [0].
 
 [0] http://www.subirimagenes.com/fotos-dsc01577-7296408.html
 http://www.subirimagenes.com/fotos-dsc01577-7296408.html
 
 Alguna pista de lo que puede estar sucediendo?

Pues el mensaje parece claro.

Te indica que tienes un error en el sistema de archivos en la partición 
de datos sda11, que ejecutes un fsck de forma manual (porque la rutina 
automática que lo ejecuta ha fallado).

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Re: [OT] Mensajes HTML

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:28:03 +, Camaleón escribió:

Para los escépticos (que me consta que los hay), este es un ejemplo de 
cómo se leen los mensajes cuando alguien los manda con formato html.

***
html
  head

meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; 
charset=ISO-8859-1
title/title
  /head
  body bgcolor=#FF text=#00
font size=-1font face=ArialbigVeamos... este es un correo
  a modo de ejemplo, bpara ver si de una vez por todas/b la
  gente entiende coacute;mo se visualiza un correo en formato
  html desde un lector de noticias o cliente de correo ubque
  no puede interpretarlo/b/u.br
  br
  Espero que ahora quede un poco maacute;s claro.../bigbr
br
br
  /font/font
  /body
/html
***

Hala, que os aproveche :-)

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RE: [OT] Mensajes HTML

2012-01-07 Thread enodisarpiz
 -Mensaje original-
 De: Camaleón [mailto:noela...@gmail.com]
 Enviado el: sábado, 07 de enero de 2012 11:33 a.m.
 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto: Re: [OT] Mensajes HTML
 
 El Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:28:03 +, Camaleón escribió:
 
 Para los escépticos (que me consta que los hay), este es un ejemplo de cómo
 se leen los mensajes cuando alguien los manda con formato html.
 
 ***
 html
   head
 
 meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
 title/title
   /head
   body bgcolor=#FF text=#00
 font size=-1font face=ArialbigVeamos... este es un correo
   a modo de ejemplo, bpara ver si de una vez por todas/b la
   gente entiende coacute;mo se visualiza un correo en formato
   html desde un lector de noticias o cliente de correo ubque
   no puede interpretarlo/b/u.br
   br
   Espero que ahora quede un poco maacute;s claro.../bigbr
 br
 br
   /font/font
   /body
 /html
 ***
 
 Hala, que os aproveche :-)
 
 Saludos,
 
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[OT] Programando con Glade + Python

2012-01-07 Thread Juan Carlos Villegas Botero

Buenas buenas...

Para hacer corta la historia larga, quiero aprender a desarrollar 
aplicaciones para Linux usando Glade y Python.  Nunca he usado Glade y 
Python lo vi por encima en la universidad con un profesor que no sabía 
casi nada de programación.


He estado buscando manuales para esto y no he encontrado uno para 
dummies jejeje... entonces recurro a ustedes, me imagino que más de uno 
acá es programador y podrá darme una mano para empezar.


Aclaro que soy programador con varios años de experiencia, pero nunca he 
usado Python.  Entonces no duden en enviarme manuales un poco avanzado 
si creen que pueden ayudarme.


Como siempre, y de antemano, muchas gracias.

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Re: [OT] Mensajes HTML

2012-01-07 Thread Felix Perez
El día 7 de enero de 2012 11:33, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:28:03 +, Camaleón escribió:

 Para los escépticos (que me consta que los hay), este es un ejemplo de
 cómo se leen los mensajes cuando alguien los manda con formato html.

 ***
 html
  head

    meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;
 charset=ISO-8859-1
    title/title
  /head
  body bgcolor=#FF text=#00
    font size=-1font face=ArialbigVeamos... este es un correo
          a modo de ejemplo, bpara ver si de una vez por todas/b la
          gente entiende coacute;mo se visualiza un correo en formato
          html desde un lector de noticias o cliente de correo ubque
              no puede interpretarlo/b/u.br
          br
          Espero que ahora quede un poco maacute;s claro.../bigbr
        br
        br
      /font/font
  /body
 /html
 ***

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El usuario Elena te invita dar alta en el foroFeminista.

2012-01-07 Thread Feminista - foro feminino
El usuario Elena te invita dar alta en el foroFeminista.

Para dar alta hace falta seguir este enlace http://www.forofeminista.es


Saludos,
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Documentacion Servidor SVN

2012-01-07 Thread Pablo Zuñiga
Estimados,
Necesito crear un servicio SVN donde hospedar algunos proyectos perola
información que he encontrado se limita a pequeños How to que
nocontienen mucha información, esto tambien lo necesito para un
proyectoweb sobre GNU y GNU/Linux que estoy realizando.
Basicamente he leido sobre paquetes a instalar, creacion de
usuarios,configuracion de repositorios y soporte para Apache, entonces
mipregunta es ¿alguien tiene documentacion mas extensa para sacar
elmejor provecho a este servicio? automatizaciones, tunning, etc.
todoes bienvenido en especial la experiencia de ustedes montando esto.
Desde ya muchas gracias por su tiempo.
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Re: [OT] Mensajes HTML

2012-01-07 Thread Sergio Bessopeanetto

El 07/01/12 11:33, Camaleón escribió:

El Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:28:03 +, Camaleón escribió:

Para los escépticos (que me consta que los hay), este es un ejemplo de
cómo se leen los mensajes cuando alguien los manda con formato html.

***
html
   head

 meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;
charset=ISO-8859-1
 title/title
   /head
   body bgcolor=#FF text=#00
 font size=-1font face=ArialbigVeamos... este es un correo
   a modo de ejemplo,bpara ver si de una vez por todas/b  la
   gente entiende coacute;mo se visualiza un correo en formato
   html desde un lector de noticias o cliente de correoubque
   no puede interpretarlo/b/u.br
   br
   Espero que ahora quede un poco maacute;s claro.../bigbr
 br
 br
   /font/font
   /body
/html
***

Hala, que os aproveche :-)

Saludos,

Y falta decir que los mensajes en html puede traer alguna porquería a 
los usuarios cautivos de ese sistema operativo de cuyo nombre no quiero 
acordarme (diría el Quijote).


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Re: [OT] Mensajes HTML

2012-01-07 Thread Rapahel Verdugo P.


Y falta decir que los mensajes en html puede traer alguna porquería a 
los usuarios cautivos de ese sistema operativo de cuyo nombre no 
quiero acordarme (diría el Quijote).






   Deberían ser castrados o algo asi aquellas personas concientes de 
todo esto y sigan haciendolo. Al resto hay que educarlos, con la mayor 
paciencia y respeto.


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Re: [OT] Programando con Glade + Python

2012-01-07 Thread Rapahel Verdugo P.




[...].  Nunca he usado Glade y Python lo vi por encima en la 
universidad con un profesor que no sabía casi nada de programación.





 Parece ser una regla obligatoria en muchas Universidades, sí fracasas 
en el mundo real, hace clases.





He estado buscando manuales para esto y no he encontrado uno para 
dummies jejeje... entonces recurro a ustedes, me imagino que más de 
uno acá es programador y podrá darme una mano para empezar.



 Para python, este siempre me pareció didactico.
http://es.tldp.org/Presentaciones/200309hispalinux/15/15.pdf











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Re: [OT] Programando con Glade + Python

2012-01-07 Thread Rapahel Verdugo P.

On 01/07/2012 01:30 PM, Juan Carlos Villegas Botero wrote:

Buenas buenas...

Para hacer corta la historia larga, quiero aprender a desarrollar 
aplicaciones para Linux usando Glade y Python.  Nunca he usado Glade y 
Python lo vi por encima en la universidad con un profesor que no sabía 
casi nada de programación.




 Equivoque el link, este es libro completo, el otro es una presentacion 
del mismo.


http://www.uji.es/bin/publ/edicions/ippython.pdf



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Re: [OT] Mensajes HTML

2012-01-07 Thread Diego Sanchez
El mio es html y que?
Como ya dijeron, me da paja tener que cambiar la configuracion en gmail.
No les gusta? Creo que Thunderbird tenia la opcion de leer todo en texto
plano.
Sigue sin gustarles? Creen una regla para todo lo que venga en html de la
lista, lo elimine... o de una direccion en particular

Qué? No tienen por qué crear las reglas uds en su cliente? Yo no tengo por
qué andar deshabilitando o no, el formato.


Re: [OT] Mensajes HTML

2012-01-07 Thread Darío


El sáb, 07-01-2012 a las 18:19 -0300, Diego Sanchez escribió:
 El mio es html y que?
 Como ya dijeron, me da paja tener que cambiar la configuracion en
 gmail. 
 No les gusta? Creo que Thunderbird tenia la opcion de leer todo en
 texto plano.
 Sigue sin gustarles? Creen una regla para todo lo que venga en html de
 la lista, lo elimine... o de una direccion en particular
 
 
 Qué? No tienen por qué crear las reglas uds en su cliente? Yo no tengo
 por qué andar deshabilitando o no, el formato.
 
 
 
 
 
Tené cuidado que te podés quebrar el dedo por cambiar a texto plano!!!



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Re: wget y javascript

2012-01-07 Thread aldo . rivadeneira
Puedes realizarlo con perl y ciertos modulos que simulan los clicks en las 
paginas. Eso seria una solucion.

Saludos
Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

-Original Message-
From: rantis cares rantisca...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 00:49:54 
To: debian user spanish listdebian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Subject: wget y javascript

Listeros:

Espero que esten comenzando bien este año 2012.

¿Existe alguna manera de descargar archivos pdf de una web, que son
filtrados mediante javascript?.

Antecedentes:

Anteriormente entraba yo a una web en donde estaban alojados unos pdfs
(miles). Logre bajarlos con wget, sin embargo (yo creo que se dieron
cuenta de lo que hice) y cambiaron su manera de mostrar dichos
archivos. Ahora no estan a la vista y para acceder a ellos solo lo
puedo hacer mediante el explorador y dando clicks para descargarlos.

Wget ya no funciona para esto, he revisado algunos post y confirman lo
que yo temia.

¿Alguna idea para hacer descargarmelas de modo automatico?.

Gracias

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Re: SSH mediante no-ip [SOLUCIONADO]

2012-01-07 Thread rantis cares
El día 27 de diciembre de 2011 05:39, López Denazis Santiago
vampireofsen...@gmail.com escribió:
 El 12/26/2011 10:55 PM, rantis cares escribió:
 LISTEROS:

 Agradezco su atencion, gracias a sus post, he mirado el error que tenia.

 Lo solucione entrando a la configuracion de mi router, y abri el
 puerto 1320 del mismo para que escuchara las peticiones desde fuera de
 la red.

 Ahora si me puedo conectar desde culaquier parte de la siguiente manera.

 ssh -p 1320 usua...@burrito.zapto.org

 Gracias

 Rantiscares



  Pues yo veo que sigue escuchando en el 22. En todo caso, no te
 recomendaría que andes diciendo qué puerto utilizarás. Saludos.

Tienes razon, por la costumbre del puerto 22 puse el puerto 22, sin
embargo abri el puerto 1320.

Tendre mas cuidado, y ahorita mismo cambio el puerto 1320 por el 1344
(jejeje es broma, lo cambiare por otro).

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Re: [OT] Programando con Glade + Python

2012-01-07 Thread Juan Carlos Villegas Botero

On 07/01/12 16:17, Rapahel Verdugo P. wrote:

On 01/07/2012 01:30 PM, Juan Carlos Villegas Botero wrote:

Buenas buenas...

Para hacer corta la historia larga, quiero aprender a desarrollar
aplicaciones para Linux usando Glade y Python. Nunca he usado Glade y
Python lo vi por encima en la universidad con un profesor que no sabía
casi nada de programación.



Equivoque el link, este es libro completo, el otro es una presentacion
del mismo.

http://www.uji.es/bin/publ/edicions/ippython.pdf



Gracias, se ve muy bueno y completo el manual.  Ya lo descargué y ahora 
empezaré a revisarlo.


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Re: wget y javascript

2012-01-07 Thread rantis cares
El día 6 de enero de 2012 01:55, ignacio holzinger
holzingerigna...@gmail.com escribió:

 El 06/01/2012 07:50, rantis cares rantisca...@gmail.com escribió:



 Listeros:

 Espero que esten comenzando bien este año 2012.

 ¿Existe alguna manera de descargar archivos pdf de una web, que son
 filtrados mediante javascript?.

 Antecedentes:

 Anteriormente entraba yo a una web en donde estaban alojados unos pdfs
 (miles). Logre bajarlos con wget, sin embargo (yo creo que se dieron
 cuenta de lo que hice) y cambiaron su manera de mostrar dichos
 archivos. Ahora no estan a la vista y para acceder a ellos solo lo
 puedo hacer mediante el explorador y dando clicks para descargarlos.

 Wget ya no funciona para esto, he revisado algunos post y confirman lo
 que yo temia.

 ¿Alguna idea para hacer descargarmelas de modo automatico?.

 Gracias


 Pega aquí la dirección de la página.

http://www.finalemusic.com/showcase/display.aspx?s=beatles

no son pdfs (correccion) son archivos .mus


 A veces viendo el código se puede arreglar.
 Mucho me cabrea las páginas en que no hay una p... Uri bien formada. Si
 algún día os aburris podriais echar un vistazo a www.sergas.es la pagina del
 servicio de salud gallego. Horrendo. Estan mas preocupados por ver quien usa
 que, y menos preocupados por la usabilidad.

 Perdon por el html que incluya el gmail este y el pesimo corrector
 ortografico.
 Saludos.
 Ignacio.



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sobre apagar pc con debian 6

2012-01-07 Thread linux
Saludos lista, que debo hacer para cuando presione el boton de encendido 
de mi server, el cual tiene instalado debian 6 de apague 
automaticamente, en el caso de debian 5 lo trae predefinido pero en 
debian 6 no, alguie sabe como puedo configurar esta opcion, saludos 
espero su respuesta.


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sobre redireccion de paginas locales

2012-01-07 Thread linux
Saludos lista como puedo redireccionar paginas que se encuentran 
hosteadas en mi servidor web local, es decir cuando un usuario pida 
webmail.x.x se redireccione a www.x.x, antes lo podia hacer con los 
virtualhost de apache, pero ahora, cambie mi webmail a iredmail y cuando 
llamo a webamil.x.x resuelve a traves de mi dns y siempre apunta a 
webmail, quisiera que cuando pidiera webmail.x.x levantara el www.x.x, 
se preguntan para que nesecito esto, bueno en caso de que nesecite 
realizar tareas de mantenimiento en mi webmail o en cualquier otro 
servicio web quisiera que en ves de poner que el servicio se encuentra 
en mantenimiento me redireccione a www.x.x


saludos

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Instalações elétricas

2012-01-07 Thread Marcos Peppeler
Peppeler instalações elétricas

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Som dos navegadores sumiu.

2012-01-07 Thread Cleber Ianes

Saudações.
Outro dia minha esposa usava o computador, com o usuário dela e via um 
vídeo. Sem qualquer ação diferente o som simplesmente sumiu, naquele 
momento achei que ela havia feito alguma coisas errada e disse que qndo 
reiniciasse o computador deveria voltar o som.

O pior é que não voltou.
Não funciona o som em nenhum dos 3 navegadores (Opera, Chrome e firefox) 
em nenhum usuários.

Já reinstalei o flashplayer, já reinstalei o Chrome e não adiantou nada.
Já verifiquei os volumes no alsamixer e estão todos ok.
Alguém tem alguma sugestão
Obrigado.

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Re: Som dos navegadores sumiu.

2012-01-07 Thread Cleber Ianes

  
  
Não tenho o gnash, está instalado o flashplugin-nonfree
Obrigado.



Em 08-01-2012 02:13, Bruno Gonsalves escreveu:
Prezado,
  
  desinste o pacote gnash e instale o pacote flashplugin-nonfree.
  
  
  Até!
  
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  Graduado em Pedagogia FACED-UFBA
  
  
  
  
  Em 8 de janeiro de 2012 01:59, Cleber
Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
escreveu:

  Saudações.
  Outro dia minha esposa usava o computador, com o usuário dela
  e via um vídeo. Sem qualquer ação diferente o som simplesmente
  sumiu, naquele momento achei que ela havia feito alguma coisas
  errada e disse que qndo reiniciasse o computador deveria
  voltar o som.
  O pior é que não voltou.
  Não funciona o som em nenhum dos 3 navegadores (Opera, Chrome
  e firefox) em nenhum usuários.
  Já reinstalei o flashplayer, já reinstalei o Chrome e não
  adiantou nada.
  Já verifiquei os volumes no alsamixer e estão todos ok.
  Alguém tem alguma sugestão
  Obrigado.
  
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Re: parçalama arızası

2012-01-07 Thread Recai Oktaş
* Muhammet Erhan Sahin [2012-01-06 23:35:46-0800]
 Mert Dirik wrote:
  
  Selim T. Erdogan yazmış:
[...]
  iceweasel değil ancak griffith ,
  programında ben böyle bir problem yaşadım,
 
  LANG=C
 
  ile kodu çalştırmam yetti yalnız açılan bu programı
  türkçe kullanmak için ne yapmalıyım.

Sadece iletileri Türkçe görmek için şöyle bir şey yeterli olur:

LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=tr_TR.UTF-8 griffith

- Örneğin zaman yereli de Türkçe olsun isterseniz:

LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=tr_TR.UTF-8 LC_TIME=tr_TR.UTF-8 griffith

  Ayrıntılı yerel listesi için locale(1) kılavuzuna bakın.

- Bunu bir Bash alias yapmakta yarar var (sorun çözülünceye kadar, tabii 
  raporlamanız lazım):

alias griffith='LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=tr_TR.UTF-8 
LC_TIME=tr_TR.UTF-8 griffith'

- C yereli yerine en_US.UTF-8 kullanın.  En azından UTF-8 desteği 
  korunmuş olur (C yereli ASCII'dir).  Doğal olarak en_US.UTF-8 
  yerelinin kurulu olması gerekir.  Debian'da şöyle bir şey:

$ sudo sh -c 'echo en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 /etc/locale.gen'
$ sudo locale-gen

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Re: Ufter upgrade Debian SID something wrong with sound - PulseAudio

2012-01-07 Thread Balint Szigeti

On 06/01/2012 20:28, Csanyi Pal wrote:

Hi,

I upgraded my Debian SID yesterday and since then something is wrong
with my sound.

I have installed GNOME and Window Maker X Window environments, and my
favorite is WM.

I'm using IRSSI and after upgrade I can't heare anymore the beep sound
when someone send me a message.

Evolution doesn't beep when mails arrived.

I'm using Skype too and can't heare it's sounds.
Skype says:
It appears your system has PulseAudio running: to change sound settings
you need to use your Desktop Manager volume control or PulseAudio volume
control.

When I try to make a test sound with Skype I can see on my WMMixer that
that the volume suddenly come to zero and afte ra while it come back to
the normal volume but during that I can't heare any sound.

I'm using Rhytmbox and I can heare music and voice from it.

So one application works and another doesn't work.

When I run Gnome-control-center I can't setup there any PulseAudio
thing.

How can I solve this problem?


hello

I had same problem few years ago. Try this:
http://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ or
http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA or
http://www.phocean.net/2007/11/11/pulseaudio-on-debian-testing.html or
http://wiki.debian.org/SoundConfiguration
and
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/alsamixergui

Maybe it's happened that your sound card is turned down when PulseAudio 
wants to use. I had to always trun up manually. It sound like a bug, but 
that was my case.


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Re: Screen resolution

2012-01-07 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 06 ian 12, 23:28:07, Brian wrote:
 
 I'll not bore you with why it happens but the EDID data are not passed to
 X on a couple of my machines, My xorg.conf is usually non-existent but
 in this case I have:
 
Section Monitor
Identifier   1905FP
Modeline 1280x1024  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 
 -hsync +vsync
HorizSync 30-81
VertRefresh   56-76
EndSection
 
Section Screen
IdentifierDefault Screen
Monitor   1905FP
DefaultDepth   16
SubSection Display
Depth  16
Modes 1280x1024
EndSubSection
EndSection
 
 Modeline is computed using 'cvt 1280 1024'.

Did you try without the Modeline? As far as I know X should be able to 
compute it based on HorizSync, VertRefresh and Modes.
Also, it might be interesting to pass DisplaySize so that DPI is 
correct.

Kind regards,
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Re: bc4318 netinstall

2012-01-07 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 07 ian 12, 00:47:13, Nikolas Slivka wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I have 2 machines. One old P4 config with bloatware BC4318 wireless 
 connection only and one netbook, both with Windows XP.
 I tried intall to PC Debian Squeeze from netinstall image, but network 
 can't configured because missing firmware for BC4310 network card.
 How I can install debian from netinstall on this machine(old P4 
 config)?

There is a step during the installation where you are asked for 
firmware.

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

2012-01-07 Thread Joe
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:45:25 -0500
Tony Baldwin tonybald...@gmx.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 01:46:38PM -0800, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
  
  The official upgrade process for Lenny to Squeeze was not as easy
  as a simple dist-upgrade, and I wonder if Lenny-to-Wheezy would be
  too
 
 It really amazes me to see anybody say(write) this.
 Having used several distributions (as mentioned), 
 I found the Lenny-Squeeze (my first Debian upgrade) to be amazingly
 easy. Like falling off a log.
 

Come back and tell us when you've done a dozen servers. Everything in
life is easy and works first time. except when it doesn't.

Take a brand new clean and basic Debian installation, do an upgrade and
it really should Just Work every time. Take a server which was
originally, say, sarge, and upgrade it, and you roll the dice. It has
had so many configuration changes made, so many extra scripts added, a
few outright bodges, and you really can't be confident that everything
will come through OK. A server upgrade is traumatic, and to be avoided
where possible. The only thing worse is a clean installation, which you
then have to spend a few days fiddling with to get everything working
the way you want.

I'm down to looking after my own server and one for a client, and my
own lenny-to-squeeze upgrade went easily. But I had spent some time
studying the upgrade notes, and I could see significant work there if I
was doing certain things differently. As it was, I was worried about the
FreeRADIUS server, which I had compiled myself, an experience I had no
wish to repeat. The squeeze FreeRADIUS now had SSL support built-in, so
would my hand-compiled version upgrade smoothly? It did, but there was
no way to predict that, and there were still minor quibbles about
switching to a dpkg-registered package from an independent one.

Generally an upgrade *will* break a few things, usually when software
is withdrawn from Debian, though sometimes when there is a major
software version change. My previous upgrade from etch to lenny broke my
mail server, and it took me a few hours and some determined use of dpkg
to get it running again. The problem wasn't the software itself, but
the heavily-modified configuration file, which left aptitude stuck
with a partly-installed package which could neither go further nor be
removed.

I have no argument about Debian having a relatively smooth and
well-researched upgrade path. The upgrade can also normally be done with
only one reboot (possibly more after certain preparations, if they were
necessary) with minimal disturbance to users. That's why so many
Internet servers use it. Most recent Windows versions cannot be
upgraded at all, Microsoft being reduced to producing scripts to ease
the migration of users and data to a completely different machine.
While I have dabbled with other Linux distributions in the past, it has
always been easier to clean install a newer version and just copy data.
It's only when a few years' worth of customisation is added that an easy
upgrade becomes really important.

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Re: Screen resolution

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:37:01 +, Andrew Wood wrote:

 On 06/01/12 18:21, Camaleón wrote:
 Yup, you have to add the unexistant mode before you can use it :-)
 Steps are detailed at Adding undetected resolutions section.
 Greetings,
 
 OK, in an ideal world though shouldnt the board 'announce' that it
 supports that mode when probed?

Sure, Xorg has to handle this automatically. But of course something went 
wrong within your setup (monitor, VGA card, intel driver...) and it 
failed so you have to manually solve the issue. 

Afterwards, you can go to Debian BTS and report it to find out the 
culprit.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:51:39 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:37:16PM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
 That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the
 one printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap
 in your head and type without looking at the keyboard.
 
 That's why I suggested a blank as it won't confuse you or swap the keys.
 It's not really that hard to memorise the full keyboard layout and learn
 to touch type.

I'm sure memorizing the keys or using a blank keyboard is an easy task 
for professional typists :-)

Anyway, I first thought the user was looking for a confortable dvorak 
keyboard device and the answer is the same regardless the layout. I agree 
with your suggestion of Cherry keyboards, I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold 
contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if 
Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 13:46:38 -0800, Steven Rosenberg wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:10:19 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

(...)

 You probably missed
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00010.html

 ,
 | In the light of these goals and also in consideration of the Debian
 | community's feedback to the release team's initial announcement
 during | the keynote of this year's DebConf in Caceres, Spain, the
 Release Team | has additionally decided to revisit its decision on
 December 2009 as the | proposed freeze date. A new timeline will be
 announced by the Debian | Release Team in early September.
 `

 Yup, I did read it, but it does not say a word about the possibility of
 a direct jump (lenny → wheezy) nor if the first decission was going to
 be retired.
 
 The official upgrade process for Lenny to Squeeze was not as easy as a
 simple dist-upgrade, and I wonder if Lenny-to-Wheezy would be too
 difficult to work out. I can't imagine that those with Lenny aren't
 encouraged to go Lenny-Squeeze-Wheezy.
 
 Truth be told, I'd just do a reinstall of Wheezy when the time comes.

When I said a direct jump I was thinking on security patches support 
lifecycle, that is, in having lenny patches delivered until wheezy is 
released, not in running a direct upgrade. In fact I never do in place 
upgrades (which overwrites the last running system), I always install a 
new linux release in pararel, on a separate partition. With todays hard 
disks capacities space is not a constraint.

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:33:42 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 04:36:49PM +0100, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

  Why can't you use squeeze?
  --
  Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
 
 Indeed, I do can, but I prefer to accomodate the span-life of the next
 installation round to match the longest support cycle possible with the
 less disturbances for me (admin) and my users :-)
 
 
 disturbances?
 Have you upgraded a Debian from old-new stable before?

(...)

Nope, never ever. In Spanish I would say jamás de los jamases :-)

In do run in place upgrades on my testing computers that now runs on a 
perpetual Debian testing but on production systems I would never do a 
distribution upgrade and not because is not going to work (I know Debian 
has one of the best in site upgrades available in linux with the plus of 
release notes which help a lot to minimize the risks) but I'm a very 
conservative sysadmin and one of my mottos is always keep a running 
system so overwriting something that is working is something that the 
mere thought gives me gooseflesh.

Of course, I can do this way because I don't have thousand machines to 
administer not have to remotely access to them, in such case I would 
reconsider the in place upgrade path :-)

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 10:52:53AM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
 I'm sure memorizing the keys or using a blank keyboard is an easy task 
 for professional typists :-)

I disagree, you don't have to be a professional typist to memorise the
keys on your keyboard. As long as you use a keyboard daily there's
nothing stopping you. First step, without which you'll never succeed, is
learning how to touch type. After you're comfortable with that switch to
a blank keyboard, it will be awkward at first but you'll get used to it.
You don't have to be a master touch typist, as long as you know how the
keys relate to each other you can figure it out. Practice and it'll
eventually come naturally.

 Anyway, I first thought the user was looking for a confortable dvorak 
 keyboard device and the answer is the same regardless the layout. I agree 
 with your suggestion of Cherry keyboards, I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold 
 contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if 
 Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?

Also using Cherry both at work and home.
Not sure but what you can do is to get Model M, Cherry or Das Keyboard,
re-arrange the keys and change the keyboard layout.

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Re: Installing 32bit Printer Drivers on Debian Stable amd64

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:09:00 -1100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:

 On 2012-01-06 11:34:14 + Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  For this there are some hints over Internet:
  
 canon ip4700 printer/driver problem on 64bit karmic
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1408300
  
 That method will sucedded depending on the packaging. If Canon
 packagers did count on the possibility of installing the required
 32-bits libraries so the driver could be installed over 64-bits
 systems, then the installer will ask for any dependency. I'm not sure
 this is an option for Canon drivers, though.
  
 I would try (and then buy should they work) the Turboprint drivers
 which seems to support your printer model (although just the printing
 function):
  
 http://www.zedonet.com/en_p_turboprint_driver.phtml?
printer=Canon_PIXMA_iP4700
  
 Nex time, buy an HP multifunction (or another branded linux compatible)
 device and ensure it is supported directly by manufacturer's driver :-P
 
 
 Ok first I forced the driver installation:
 
   dpkg -i --force-architecture package
 
 It installed but I was still not able to print after successfully
 setting it up from within the cups admin webpage. I installed the
 ia32-libs package and it worked. So for the benefit of the archives I
 thought I would share that.

Good to know. Canon is one of the printer manufacturers I have in my 
blacklist, they seem to make good products but most of them targeted to 
windows users.

Anyway thanks for sharing. Other users with the same printer model (or 
similar) will benefit from your findings :-)
 
 I'm wondering about printing from the command line though. lp(1) just
 shows a no destination to printer message. I think I might need the
 cups-bsd package but I can't see why I shouldn't be able to print from
 the command line with the normal cups packages.

I see you already solved this. lp needs the printer's name, something 
like:

lp -d printer_name /path/to/file

Otherwise selects the default printer, so if none is set it will fail.

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Re: rootdelay=9 kernal option - why?

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:23:03 -0400, francis picabia wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:12:03 -0400, francis picabia wrote:

 On most of my older systems, I've needed to add the option rootdelay=9
 to make the system boot when upgrading to the kernel and such for
 squeeze. Without it, the root file system is not found and it drops
 you into the initramfs prompt.

 Mmm, yes, it is documented:

 4.6.3. Boot timing issues
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#boot-timing
 
 Thanks for the link...
 
 This type of documentation can always be found if you already know the
 problem and solution, but it is invisible if you only have a symptom.  

Sure! :-)

I wonder how did you finally reached the conclusion for the rootdelay, 
I wouldn't either have imagined so after finding any clue over Internet, 
forums and mailing lists... even after reading the Relase Notes, you still 
have to connect the points to identify your booting problem with the solution 
showed there.

 I was already expecting it this time, but the first time I encountered
 it I took some time to find the problem.  The better way to describe it
 is to include details on what kind of failure you will see, with some
 parts of the text as it appears on the screen.  I would not call it
 boot timing issues, but rather No root file system on boot, drops to
 initramfs prompt. Calling it merely a debug shell is too vague and
 does not match google searches.  People discussing it in forums and
 mailing lists match the search terms, while the Debian release notes do
 not.

I agree, but this is something that comes with the years and experience. 
Old dogs have developed a sixth sense for identifying such issues :-)

 I generally print out the release notes prior to upgrade.  In
 particular, it might help to place this in chapter 5 rather than 4. 
 Chapter 5 is Issues to be aware of for squeeze.  As this didn't happen
 in Debian 5, I would think it belongs there.
 
 There has been some improvement on the errors shown on the screen
 lately, with at least 3 potential problems listed when this goes sour,
 and one of them is the rootdelay option.

It is still unclear why you're seeing the error, unless you're at any of 
the mentioned scenarios (using USB disks, RAID or LILO) the timing 
problem should not bit you.

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[OT] Typing stuff (was: Dvorak Keyboards.)

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:26:31 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 10:52:53AM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
 I'm sure memorizing the keys or using a blank keyboard is an easy task
 for professional typists :-)
 
 I disagree, you don't have to be a professional typist to memorise the
 keys on your keyboard. As long as you use a keyboard daily there's
 nothing stopping you. First step, without which you'll never succeed, is
 learning how to touch type. After you're comfortable with that switch to
 a blank keyboard, it will be awkward at first but you'll get used to it.
 You don't have to be a master touch typist, as long as you know how the
 keys relate to each other you can figure it out. Practice and it'll
 eventually come naturally.

Needless to say I never made any specific training for typing but by 
reading your words I must be a slowpoke person :-)

I've been intensively typing for over the last 11 years (and also before 
but not daily and mostly for playing) but I haven't developed such typing 
skills though I would have loved to. I have to constantly look at the 
keyboard or I can royally fail ~90% of the clicked keys.

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Re: rootdelay=9 kernal option - why?

2012-01-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello,

Camaleón a écrit :
 
 I wonder how did you finally reached the conclusion for the rootdelay, 
 I wouldn't either have imagined so after finding any clue over Internet, 
 forums and mailing lists... even after reading the Relase Notes, you still 
 have to connect the points to identify your booting problem with the solution 
 showed there.

OP : Without it, the root file system is not found and it drops you
into the initramfs prompt.

Release notes : The usual symptoms are that the boot will fail because
the root file system cannot be mounted and you are dropped into a debug
shell.

Quite similar, isn't it ?

 It is still unclear why you're seeing the error, unless you're at any of 
 the mentioned scenarios (using USB disks, RAID or LILO) the timing 
 problem should not bit you.

OP :  We typically have mdadm style software raid on all boot systems,
using /dev/md0 typically as root file system.

To the OP :
This is not specific to Squeeze, the issue was already reported in Etch
and Lenny release notes. And it is not a kernel issue but an initramfs
issue.


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Re: Which development and image libraries needed to build emacs-24

2012-01-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk writes:

 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 When I run this configure command:
 ./configure --with-xft --with-x-toolkit=lucid \
   --prefix=/usr/local/src/vcs/bzr/test/

 I get this final error:

 | configure: error: You seem to be running X, but no X development libraries
 | were found.

 Google debian install X development libraries suggests xorg-dev as
 the metapackage for ... X Window System development libraries.


 | and for the toolkit you want, such as Gtk+, Lesstif or Motif

 Google debian install gtk development libraries seems to provide some
 good suggestions


I guess you are joking?  When I do either of those searches I get
exactly 1 hit... and it is the reply message of yours that I quote
here. 

However xorg-dev appears to be the main source of trouble.

 | sure you have development files for image handling, i.e.
 | tiff, gif, jpeg, png and xpm.

 It didn't seem to be particularly hard to follow the motif and find
 development package suggestions for at least some of these.

I don't understand you here either ...  motif?

But with the xorg-dev pkg installed ./configure ends in another error
of a different kind.  I'm not sure if it something that must be fixed
before trying to build or not.

,
| [...]
| creating src/epaths.h
| make[1]: Entering directory `/anex/usr_local/src/vcs/bzr/emacs/trunk'
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/anex/usr_local/src/vcs/bzr/emacs/trunk'
| config.status: executing gdbinit commands
| config.status: executing gdbinit commands
| ./config.status: line 2071: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
| ./config.status: line 2071: `;'
`


Looking at that area of the file, I don't really see which `;' is out
of place.


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(Solved) Re: Wheezy: module unix not found in modules.dep

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:19:49 +, Brian wrote:

 On Fri 06 Jan 2012 at 17:08:46 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Since one of the latest kernel upgrades I started seeing this message
 when booting:
 
 module unix not found in modules.dep

(...)

 There are no side effects, all works fine but what's missing and how to
 to get rid of it?
 
 Comment out the line 'force_load unix' in /initramfs-tools/hooks/udev
 and run
 
update-initramfs -u

Yup, that worked like a charm, thanks :-)

(the file is located under /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/udev)

 Personally I wouldn't bother. As you say, it does no harm and when in
 time it disappears you will know the bug is gone.

Agree. For that reason I did the changes on a virtualized wheezy and left 
as is my netbook which also runs wheezy. Let's monitor how time it 
takes to solve this ;-)

(and sorry for the delay in replying, I had to deal with a semi-broken VM 
wheezy system after I updated a gibibyte of data. Wow, how bad is not 
doing regular updates... thanks aptitude I could recover the system 
nicely)

 A little off the topic of your mail (and rhetorical) I wonder what your
 reaction will be when testing gets the new sysvinit?

What new sysvinit? You mean systemd? :-?

I've only read about problems and headaches coming from users and admins 
for systemd which is currently the default init system for another 
distributions so let's see how Debian handles this. My first impression 
is that distributions made the transtition too soon... these things need 
time to:

a) Get users and admins accustomed to the new system

b) Solving the highest number of problems/bugs before it reaches the 
streets

c) Write down detailed documentation for users migrating from sysvinit 
and newcomers

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Re: rootdelay=9 kernal option - why?

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 15:11:54 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Camaleón a écrit :
 
 I wonder how did you finally reached the conclusion for the
 rootdelay, I wouldn't either have imagined so after finding any clue
 over Internet, forums and mailing lists... even after reading the
 Relase Notes, you still have to connect the points to identify your
 booting problem with the solution showed there.
 
 OP : Without it, the root file system is not found and it drops you
 into the initramfs prompt.
 
 Release notes : The usual symptoms are that the boot will fail because
 the root file system cannot be mounted and you are dropped into a debug
 shell.
 
 Quite similar, isn't it ?

For the old guard, yes. For average users, not that similar :-)

 It is still unclear why you're seeing the error, unless you're at any
 of the mentioned scenarios (using USB disks, RAID or LILO) the timing
 problem should not bit you.
 
 OP :  We typically have mdadm style software raid on all boot systems,
 using /dev/md0 typically as root file system.
 
 To the OP :
 This is not specific to Squeeze, the issue was already reported in Etch
 and Lenny release notes. And it is not a kernel issue but an initramfs
 issue.

Uh? I did miss that message... ah, okay, it was said on a reply to Alexey.

OTOH, Release Notes do not specifiy what kind of RAID triggers the 
problem (hardware raid, linux raid, fakeraid...). For instance, I have  
adaptec hardware RAID controllers and didn't notice this on my Lenny 
installs.

I agree with Francis this is not normal or something expected. At least 
is not something I have experienced before.

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dhclient renewal

2012-01-07 Thread hvw59601

Hi,

The 2wire router from ISP Telmex Infinitum (Mexico) went on the blink so 
they gave a new one. It's a Thomson TG585V8.


One thing that I noticed is that the external IP now changes about every 
hour or so, when the internet goes offline and after a minute or so 
comes online again.


The other thing is now I see:

Jan 7 10:09:08 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190—renewal in 55 seconds.

While previously I saw:

Dec 31 08:01:13 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190—renewal in 40438 
seconds.


Why the difference?

That router has 2 systems connected to it, both with ethernet cable, a 
laptop running Squeeze and a desktop running Sid.


Hugo


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trash directory path for KDE applications

2012-01-07 Thread Maksym Tiurin
Hello everyone,

I use digikam 1.2.0-7 and store my photos in the separate FS mounted to
the /home/photo

$ mount -l | grep
home
 

/dev/mapper/Home--Data-home on /home type jfs
(rw,nosuid,nodev,iocharset=utf8,usrquota,grpquota) [/home]
/dev/mapper/Home--Data-home_music on /home/Music type ext3
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,data=journal) [/home/Music]
/dev/mapper/Home--Data-home_photo on /home/photo type ext3
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,data=journal) [/home/photo]

After last dist-upgrade digikam move deleted photos to 
~/.local/share/Trash. Moving files to another file system takes a long
time.

How I can restore the old behavior when files are deleted in the
.Trash-UID directory at the root of the filesystem?

Thank you in advance.


P.S.
I use Debian Squeeze 6.0.3 and run digikam from Fvwm.

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[OT] Mutt: how to add customized headers

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
Hello Mutt lovers :-)

I wonder if it is possible to add a customized header field with semi-
faked data on it... 

(yup, it sounds a bit weird...)

... Mmmm, nope, don't get me wrong, I don't want to send spam nor getting 
into forbidden systems ;-)

I'm asking this becasue I usually use Pan newsreader for posting to 
mailing lists but from time to time I need to use Mutt (i.e., when I have 
to attach a file to a message, because Pan cannot handle attachments). In 
such cases (mostly replies), Mutt misses the References: header 
(that's normal because Mutt knows nothing about the message I posted from 
Pan) and I would like to keep the messages threaded.

So, in brief, I would like to see a way for adding a custom References: 
for the outgoing messages.

I have read Mutt's doc:

3.12 User defined headers
http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#ss3.12

But on-the-fly header edit (Shift+E) does not work as I expected. For 
instance, if I add:

***
References: pan.2012.01.06.17.08...@gmail.com
***

And send the message, the e-mail is received with no References field 
at all.

So, questions:

1/ Is it possible to add such customized header field or is something 
that goes against any RFC? O:-)

2/ Should possible, how could be done?

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Re: (Solved) Re: Wheezy: module unix not found in modules.dep

2012-01-07 Thread hvw59601

Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:19:49 +, Brian wrote:


On Fri 06 Jan 2012 at 17:08:46 +, Camaleón wrote:


Since one of the latest kernel upgrades I started seeing this message
when booting:

module unix not found in modules.dep


(...)


There are no side effects, all works fine but what's missing and how to
to get rid of it?

Comment out the line 'force_load unix' in /initramfs-tools/hooks/udev
and run

   update-initramfs -u


Yup, that worked like a charm, thanks :-)

(the file is located under /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/udev)


Personally I wouldn't bother. As you say, it does no harm and when in
time it disappears you will know the bug is gone.


Agree. For that reason I did the changes on a virtualized wheezy and left 
as is my netbook which also runs wheezy. Let's monitor how time it 
takes to solve this ;-)


(and sorry for the delay in replying, I had to deal with a semi-broken VM 
wheezy system after I updated a gibibyte of data. Wow, how bad is not 
doing regular updates... thanks aptitude I could recover the system 
nicely)



A little off the topic of your mail (and rhetorical) I wonder what your
reaction will be when testing gets the new sysvinit?


What new sysvinit? You mean systemd? :-?

I've only read about problems and headaches coming from users and admins 
for systemd which is currently the default init system for another 
distributions so let's see how Debian handles this. My first impression 
is that distributions made the transtition too soon... these things need 
time to:


a) Get users and admins accustomed to the new system

b) Solving the highest number of problems/bugs before it reaches the 
streets


c) Write down detailed documentation for users migrating from sysvinit 
and newcomers




That package (systemd) is in Sid. What determines that it must be used? 
Deactivation of sysv-rc?


Hugo



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Re: SIP programs on PowerPC

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 03:05:22 +0200, Dima Sorkin wrote:

 Hi.
   I have Debian/SID on iBook G4 (powerpc), updated on a weekly basis.
 
 Of the SIP programs I tried, only Twinkle succeeded to produce sound.
 
 Ekiga and LinPhone connect to 500 at ekiga-dot-net (test call), with no
 sound. Ekiga shows that no sound input stream is received from the ekiga
 server (but video is ok).

Ekiga is what I use and works fine. However, you have to ensure your 
input sound device is compatible. What kind of device are you using 
(embedded microphone line with standard jack input and separate speakers, 
a dedicated all-in-one headphone...)?

 Blink (built from source) could not be installed because of
 dependencies.
 
 QuteCom does not provide a GUI option to register to a SIP account.

Wikipedia has an extensive list of softphones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software

(I have in my radar -though still not tested- Jitsi (a.k.a SIP 
Communicator), because it is written in Java and can be run on any OS 
which supports it).

 I wonder whether those issues are laptop specific, or powerpc specific
 (big endian etc)?

I don't think so (SIP applications use their own methods for getting 
sound in/out). Anyway, does recording/playing work outside SIP programs? 
For instance, using arecord/aplay or GNOME sound recorder.

 Thanks,
   Dima.
 
 P.S.
   Please CC me, I am not registered to the list.

Sorry, I can't :-(

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Re: [OT] Mutt: how to add customized headers

2012-01-07 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2012-01-07T16:28:55Z * Camaleón wrote:

 So, in brief, I would like to see a way for adding a custom References: 
 for the outgoing messages.

I think you want In-Reply-To header. Anyway, put this to ~/.muttrc

set edit_headers=yes

and you can edit headers in your text editor when composing a mail
message.


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Re: dhclient renewal

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:19:58 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:

 The 2wire router from ISP Telmex Infinitum (Mexico) went on the blink so
 they gave a new one. It's a Thomson TG585V8.

Hey, we've got a bunch of TG585v7 (for ISDN lines) :-)

 One thing that I noticed is that the external IP now changes about every
 hour or so, when the internet goes offline and after a minute or so
 comes online again.

External (routeable) or internal (local network) IP?
 
 The other thing is now I see:
 
 Jan 7 10:09:08 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190—renewal in 55
 seconds.
 
 While previously I saw:
 
 Dec 31 08:01:13 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190—renewal in 40438
 seconds.
 
 Why the difference?

(...)

Maybe the time for the leasing has decreased with the new device, but I 
guess this can be tweakable from the router's web interface (or by means 
of telnet) :-?

Look, this is from the router's configuration page:

***
Home  Home Network  Interfaces  LocalNetwork [ Configure ]

DHCP Lease Time:1 day, 0:00:00
***

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Sysvinit replacement (was: (Solved) Re: Wheezy: module unix not found in modules.dep)

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:54:52 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:
 On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:19:49 +, Brian wrote:

(...)

 A little off the topic of your mail (and rhetorical) I wonder what
 your reaction will be when testing gets the new sysvinit?
 
 What new sysvinit? You mean systemd? :-?
 
 I've only read about problems and headaches coming from users and
 admins for systemd which is currently the default init system for
 another distributions so let's see how Debian handles this. My first
 impression is that distributions made the transtition too soon... these
 things need time to:
 
 a) Get users and admins accustomed to the new system
 
 b) Solving the highest number of problems/bugs before it reaches the
 streets
 
 c) Write down detailed documentation for users migrating from sysvinit
 and newcomers
 
 
 That package (systemd) is in Sid. What determines that it must be used?
 Deactivation of sysv-rc?

Mmm, AFAIK sysvinit and systemd can coexist, but I don't know how to 
give preference to one of them. Maybe by some sort of variable in /etc/
default/*? :-?

Let me read the docs... okay, it is documented at /usr/share/doc/systemd/
README.Debian

***
systemd for Debian
==

systemd can be installed alongside sysvinit and will not change the
behaviour of the system out of the box.  This is intentional.  To test
systemd, add:

init=/bin/systemd

to the kernel command line and then rebooting, or install the
systemd-sysv package.
***

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casablanca

2012-01-07 Thread steef

hi all!

maybe this question does not belong on this maybe it does: however... as a 
long time debian user i give it a try in the hope a kind soul can be of some help


a friend of mine is a birdwatcher and makes movies of woodpeckers with youngs 
in their nest; a tedious job of weeks of observation etc. with three cameras 
in our sometime horrible dutch climate.


he tried to put the images of these three cameras together with a piece of 
german hardware called casablanca running on opensource software (guess what!) 
called bogart. the hd-capacity of the hardware is 500 GB. type 2000S. software 
type unknown. he put the output-images (raw) an enormous quantity of a couple 
of terabytes on 4 external hd's. he could not open any of the images 
(collected in projects) anymore so he came to me. with mplayer and some 
experiments in /etc/fstab and /mnt, gparted and mkfs.ext3 i could mount some 
parts of one of the hdś and make the images visible again on a partition in 
one of my machines, however, without sound.


sorry for this long introduction.

my question: is there somebody out there who knows more of the casablanca 
2000S and the software called bogart?


thank you,

regards,

steef



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Re: linux-source-3.2.0-rc7

2012-01-07 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 01:32:32 -0500 (EST), lina wrote:
 On Friday 06,January,2012 10:42 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
 
 I'm also curious as to why you need, or think you need, to build a custom
 kernel in the first place.
 
 The wireless is not supported, bcm4331.
 so ...

If the issue is that your current stock kernel does not support your wireless
chips, but a 3.2.0 kernel does, you can obtain binary stock kernel images from
experimental that may meet your needs without having to build a custom
kernel from source.  For example,

  linux-image-3.2.0-rc7-686-pae

or

  linux-image-3.2.0-rc7-amd64

depending on whether you want a 32-bit or 64-bit kernel.
You shouldn't need a headers package unless you need to install
an out-of-kernel-source-tree kernel module image from source with
module-assistant or dkms.  If you do need a headers package, the
corresponding headers packages to the above two kernels are

  linux-headers-3.2.0-rc7-686-pae

or

  linux-headers-3.2.0-rc7-all-amd64

respectively.

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Re: [OT] Mutt: how to add customized headers

2012-01-07 Thread André Berger
* Camaleón (2012-01-07):
 Hello Mutt lovers :-)
[...]
 So, in brief, I would like to see a way for adding a custom References: 
 for the outgoing messages.

Shouldn't that read

  In-Reply-To: pan.2012.01.06.17.08...@gmail.com

-André

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Re: packaging and archive management

2012-01-07 Thread andy baxter

On 27/12/11 15:34, andy baxter wrote:

Hello,

I have volunteered to do a bit of work for a small free software 
project (https://buddycloud.org), packaging the different parts of 
their system. This will initially be for debian but possibly for other 
distros as well at some point.




I have some further questions about this, but I'm wondering if this is 
the right place to ask? If not, could somebody point me to the right 
list? I've looked at lists.debian.org and not found anything obvious.


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Re: [OT] Mutt: how to add customized headers

2012-01-07 Thread Greg Donoghue
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 04:28:55PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 So, in brief, I would like to see a way for adding a custom References: 
 for the outgoing messages.

Is this of any help?
From the manual:

6.2.4. In-Reply-To: Header

When replying to messages, the In-Reply-To: header contains the
Message-Id of the message(s) you reply to. If you remove or modify
its value, Mutt will not generate a References: field, which allows
you to create a new message thread, for example to create a new
message to a mailing list without having to enter the mailing
list's address.

It seems that the References: header must be generated by mutt.


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(Solved) Re: [OT] Mutt: how to add customized headers

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:44:54 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:

 * 2012-01-07T16:28:55Z * Camaleón wrote:
 
 So, in brief, I would like to see a way for adding a custom
 References: for the outgoing messages.
 
 I think you want In-Reply-To header. 

And References not? I think my messages lack that field :-?

Okay, let me try it (...). Mmm, perfect, it works.

 Anyway, put this to ~/.muttrc
 
 set edit_headers=yes
 
 and you can edit headers in your text editor when composing a mail
 message.

That's the same effect than Shift+E (which BTW also works when using 
In-Reply-To), so it seems that References is the one that fails 
because other e-mail headers are also retained (e.g., Message-ID).

Thanks a bunch, this will keep my messages ordered in the same thread 
regardless the MUA :-D

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Re: Ufter upgrade Debian SID something wrong with sound - PulseAudio

2012-01-07 Thread Csanyi Pal
Hi Scott,

Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes:

 On 07/01/12 07:28, Csanyi Pal wrote:

 As I don't run WM, Gnome or SID what works for my might not be useful to
 you.

 I have found the first link below very useful, the second[*1] might be
 of interest to you also:-
 http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup

I have these setup in my ~/.asoundrc
pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}

ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}

pcm.!default {
type pulse
}

ctl.!default {
type pulse
}

 As a general test:-
 aplay /usr/share/skype/sounds/SkypeLogout.wav (because I once spent
 hours discovering I didn't have the headset speaker plugged in)

aplay /usr/share/skype/sounds/SkypeLogout.wav
gives me the sound that I can hear.

But when start Skype then this sound is so quiet that I can hear it
barely. 

So I increase the PulseAudio volume to heare it regularly then one of
the WMaker's application, the fookb-wmaker - An Xkb state indicator --
WindowMaker version

become so loud that it's unendurable;
When I switch to another keyboard layout it play a sound with:

aplay /usr/share/fookb/beep_spring.au 
Playing Sparc Audio '/usr/share/fookb/beep_spring.au' : Mu-Law, Rate
8000 Hz, Mono 

I have one more problem related to sound.
When I play a sound with the command:

aplay /debian-adatok-1/Hangok/Szervusz/Szervusz.ogg 
Playing raw data '/debian-adatok-1/Hangok/Szervusz/Szervusz.ogg' :
Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono 

then I heare not the sound but a noise.
But when I play the sound with:

aplay /debian-adatok-1/Hangok/Szervusz/Szervusz.wav 
Playing WAVE '/debian-adatok-1/Hangok/Szervusz/Szervusz.wav' : Signed 16
bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo 

then I can hear the sound properly.

What are these problems and how can I solve those?

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Vodafone Mobile Internet modem

2012-01-07 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis

Hi!

I am running a mix of GNewSense (which is based on Squeeze) and Squeeze 
on a Lemote YeeLoong netbook.


To access the internet I have paid for a Vodafone Mobile Internet 
Contract. However the provided Huawei usb modem has been nothing but 
trouble.


Can you suggest a GNU\Linux compatible modem (usb I assume) that will 
work without hassle?


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Re: dhclient renewal

2012-01-07 Thread hvw59601

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:19:58 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:


The 2wire router from ISP Telmex Infinitum (Mexico) went on the blink so
they gave a new one. It's a Thomson TG585V8.


Hey, we've got a bunch of TG585v7 (for ISDN lines) :-)


One thing that I noticed is that the external IP now changes about every
hour or so, when the internet goes offline and after a minute or so
comes online again.


External (routeable) or internal (local network) IP?
 


External IP



The other thing is now I see:

Jan 7 10:09:08 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190—renewal in 55
seconds.

While previously I saw:

Dec 31 08:01:13 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190—renewal in 40438
seconds.

Why the difference?


(...)

Maybe the time for the leasing has decreased with the new device, but I 
guess this can be tweakable from the router's web interface (or by means 
of telnet) :-?


Look, this is from the router's configuration page:

***
Home  Home Network  Interfaces  LocalNetwork [ Configure ]

DHCP Lease Time:1 day, 0:00:00
***



I see this:

DHCP Lease Time:0 days, 23:59:49

but it is not configurable. And then I still see in syslog:

Jan  7 12:10:48 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190 -- renewal in 59 
seconds.


Hugo



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Re: Sysvinit replacement

2012-01-07 Thread hvw59601

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:54:52 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:19:49 +, Brian wrote:


(...)


A little off the topic of your mail (and rhetorical) I wonder what
your reaction will be when testing gets the new sysvinit?

What new sysvinit? You mean systemd? :-?

I've only read about problems and headaches coming from users and
admins for systemd which is currently the default init system for
another distributions so let's see how Debian handles this. My first
impression is that distributions made the transtition too soon... these
things need time to:

a) Get users and admins accustomed to the new system

b) Solving the highest number of problems/bugs before it reaches the
streets

c) Write down detailed documentation for users migrating from sysvinit
and newcomers



That package (systemd) is in Sid. What determines that it must be used?
Deactivation of sysv-rc?


Mmm, AFAIK sysvinit and systemd can coexist, but I don't know how to 
give preference to one of them. Maybe by some sort of variable in /etc/

default/*? :-?

Let me read the docs... okay, it is documented at /usr/share/doc/systemd/
README.Debian

***
systemd for Debian
==

systemd can be installed alongside sysvinit and will not change the
behaviour of the system out of the box.  This is intentional.  To test
systemd, add:

init=/bin/systemd

to the kernel command line and then rebooting, or install the
systemd-sysv package.
***


Does that mean systemd will be voluntary for the foreseeable future?
(And how did you read the docs of systemd, you installed it?)

Hugo


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Re: dhclient renewal

2012-01-07 Thread hvw59601

hvw59601 wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:19:58 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:


The 2wire router from ISP Telmex Infinitum (Mexico) went on the blink so
they gave a new one. It's a Thomson TG585V8.


Hey, we've got a bunch of TG585v7 (for ISDN lines) :-)


One thing that I noticed is that the external IP now changes about every
hour or so, when the internet goes offline and after a minute or so
comes online again.


External (routeable) or internal (local network) IP?
 


External IP



The other thing is now I see:

Jan 7 10:09:08 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190—renewal in 55
seconds.

While previously I saw:

Dec 31 08:01:13 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190—renewal in 40438
seconds.

Why the difference?


(...)

Maybe the time for the leasing has decreased with the new device, but 
I guess this can be tweakable from the router's web interface (or by 
means of telnet) :-?


Look, this is from the router's configuration page:

***
Home  Home Network  Interfaces  LocalNetwork [ Configure ]

DHCP Lease Time:1 day, 0:00:00
***



I see this:

DHCP Lease Time:0 days, 23:59:49

but it is not configurable. And then I still see in syslog:



I take that back, it *is* configurable, but 23 hours is fine with me, 1 
minute is not. Change it to 12 hours maybe? Would I mess things up? I 
hate to talk to Telmex because then you have to hide the fact that you 
are running Linux and pretend you are Window$ :-(


Hugo


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Re: Sysvinit replacement

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:14:48 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 That package (systemd) is in Sid. What determines that it must be
 used? Deactivation of sysv-rc?
 
 Mmm, AFAIK sysvinit and systemd can coexist, but I don't know how to
 give preference to one of them. Maybe by some sort of variable in
 /etc/ default/*? :-?
 
 Let me read the docs... okay, it is documented at
 /usr/share/doc/systemd/ README.Debian
 
 ***
 systemd for Debian
 ==
 
 systemd can be installed alongside sysvinit and will not change the
 behaviour of the system out of the box.  This is intentional.  To test
 systemd, add:
 
 init=/bin/systemd
 
 to the kernel command line and then rebooting, or install the
 systemd-sysv package.
 ***
 
 Does that mean systemd will be voluntary for the foreseeable future?
 (And how did you read the docs of systemd, you installed it?)

There is also upstart as a possible replacement, so I hope whatever 
decission is finally reached by Debian team it allows users to select 
their desired init system regardless the choosen default.

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Re: Removing debian from hdd

2012-01-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Camaleón wrote:
 Guido Martínez wrote:
  I recently borrowed a hard drive and installed debian on it, alongside
  windows. I used it for a couple of weeks.
  
  Later, I tried to remove debian by deleting the partitions I had
  installed it on, but that caused grub to fail horribly, and I had to
  reinstall debian. How can I remove debian? Can I make grub ignore that
  partition and then delete it?
 
 I don't understand what's your final goal, let's see...

Guido says his goal is to remove Debian from the computer and enable
it to boot without it.

 You have a hard disk with windows and debian installed on different 
 partitions. Fine.
 
 GRUB is the default bootloader which allows you to boot into Debian or 
 windows. Fine.
 
 You have deleted/formatted your Debian partitions. Fine. Then you 
 reinstalled it (? - this was not needed at all).

Incorrect.  It was needed.  Grub's MBR will look for (names depending
upon the version of grub) the next stage loaders and look for its
configuration file in /boot/grub/ and will fail if that partition is
not available.  Once Guido removed that partition then it was no
longer available and grub would not be able to boot any system.

The solution for Guido was to install Debian again so that a new
install of grub would then have all files present.  Then using it he
could boot both the newly re-installed Debian and the existing Windows.

 Now what do you want to do? What do you want to get? Do you want to keep 
 your Windows install and use the windows bootloader? If yes, there is a 
 fixmbr command you can run from within windows recovery console to 
 restore windows NT loader.

Unfortunately MS has chosen not to include that command on at least
Vista Home for example.  After hitting a very similar problem myself I
found that MS did not include the tools necessary to repair the MBR on
a Vista Home installation and I believe not on other Home versions.
Or at least the Acer factory installation of Vista Home on the machine
I was working with did not include the necessary tools.  The only
solution I found was to boot 3rd party rescue disks and then use tools
from them to repair the mbr.  See my posting for the full details.

 Hint: next time, instead installing GRUB into the MBR you can leave it on 
 the first sector of a partition and mark the GRUB's partition with the 
 bootable flag, this way you keep your windows bootloader intact if you 
 decide to remove linux afterwards.

That is good advice.  In my case I did not plan to ever restore the
windows boot loader.  But over time the plan changed.

Bob


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Re: dhclient renewal

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:22:55 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:

 hvw59601 wrote:
 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:19:58 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:

 The 2wire router from ISP Telmex Infinitum (Mexico) went on the blink
 so they gave a new one. It's a Thomson TG585V8.

 Hey, we've got a bunch of TG585v7 (for ISDN lines) :-)

 One thing that I noticed is that the external IP now changes about
 every hour or so, when the internet goes offline and after a minute
 or so comes online again.

 External (routeable) or internal (local network) IP?
  
  
 External IP

Mmm, since when 192.168.1.x is an external IP? :-)

(...)

 I see this:
 
 DHCP Lease Time:0 days, 23:59:49
 
 but it is not configurable. And then I still see in syslog:
 
 
 I take that back, it *is* configurable, 

Sure it is, rembember that I'm seeing the same as you :-P

 but 23 hours is fine with me, 1 minute is not. 

Let me check my logs... okay, my dhcp client renews the lease every 9 
hours although I also have a 24 hours setup in the router. Weird.

 Change it to 12 hours maybe? Would I mess things up? I hate to talk to
 Telmex because then you have to hide the fact that you are running
 Linux and pretend you are Window$ :-(

Your dhcp server (the router) is configured right (it keeps the lease for 
almost one day), so maybe is your dhcp client which requests for a lease? 
Look at /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf file and search for any lease 
stanza. If it is commented, edit accordingly to enable you can define 
there your client settings.

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Re: Removing debian from hdd

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:44:20 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:
 Guido Martínez wrote:
  I recently borrowed a hard drive and installed debian on it,
  alongside windows. I used it for a couple of weeks.
  
  Later, I tried to remove debian by deleting the partitions I had
  installed it on, but that caused grub to fail horribly, and I had to
  reinstall debian. How can I remove debian? Can I make grub ignore
  that partition and then delete it?
 
 I don't understand what's your final goal, let's see...
 
 Guido says his goal is to remove Debian from the computer and enable it
 to boot without it.

That's what I thought but I prefer to have a confirmation for this point.

 You have a hard disk with windows and debian installed on different
 partitions. Fine.
 
 GRUB is the default bootloader which allows you to boot into Debian or
 windows. Fine.
 
 You have deleted/formatted your Debian partitions. Fine. Then you
 reinstalled it (? - this was not needed at all).
 
 Incorrect.  It was needed.  

(...)

Not at all. You can do many things to get GRUB removed (fixmbr) or 
windows booted (using SDG) without needing to install Debian again.

 Now what do you want to do? What do you want to get? Do you want to
 keep your Windows install and use the windows bootloader? If yes, there
 is a fixmbr command you can run from within windows recovery console
 to restore windows NT loader.
 
 Unfortunately MS has chosen not to include that command on at least
 Vista Home for example.  

(...)

There are still options for repairing it. I recently had to use Hiren's 
Boot CD for updating the BIOS of my netbook which only had wheezy 
installed on it and forced me to use an .exe file for updating, but 
there is also Ultimate Boot CD and other third-party tools for doing 
the job. Anyway, IIRC, windows bootloader can be restored even from a 
linux LiveCD and ms-sys package.

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Re: dhclient renewal

2012-01-07 Thread hvw59601

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:22:55 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:


hvw59601 wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:19:58 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:


The 2wire router from ISP Telmex Infinitum (Mexico) went on the blink
so they gave a new one. It's a Thomson TG585V8.

Hey, we've got a bunch of TG585v7 (for ISDN lines) :-)


One thing that I noticed is that the external IP now changes about
every hour or so, when the internet goes offline and after a minute
or so comes online again.

External (routeable) or internal (local network) IP?
 
 

External IP


Mmm, since when 192.168.1.x is an external IP? :-)



No, that is internal. My external IP is changed every hour or so:

Jan  7 09:18:41 HDBB ddclient[1730]: SUCCESS:  updating 
esquipulas-index.dyndns.org: good: IP address set to 189.188.156.182
Jan  7 09:44:10 HDBB ddclient[1730]: SUCCESS:  updating 
esquipulas-index.dyndns.org: good: IP address set to 189.188.159.254
Jan  7 10:59:15 HDBB ddclient[1730]: SUCCESS:  updating 
esquipulas-index.dyndns.org: good: IP address set to 187.136.115.174
Jan  7 11:54:28 HDBB ddclient[1730]: SUCCESS:  updating 
esquipulas-index.dyndns.org: good: IP address set to 187.136.114.47


Since I got on around 8AM, it is now 1PM, 5 hours, 4 changes.





I see this:

DHCP Lease Time:0 days, 23:59:49

but it is not configurable. And then I still see in syslog:


I take that back, it *is* configurable, 


Sure it is, rembember that I'm seeing the same as you :-P

but 23 hours is fine with me, 1 minute is not. 


Let me check my logs... okay, my dhcp client renews the lease every 9 
hours although I also have a 24 hours setup in the router. Weird.



Change it to 12 hours maybe? Would I mess things up? I hate to talk to
Telmex because then you have to hide the fact that you are running
Linux and pretend you are Window$ :-(


Your dhcp server (the router) is configured right (it keeps the lease for 
almost one day), so maybe is your dhcp client which requests for a lease? 
Look at /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf file and search for any lease 
stanza. If it is commented, edit accordingly to enable you can define 
there your client settings.




That's all commented out. Let me play with it. My feeling is that the 
short lease times for both devices have to do with the external IP changes.


Hugo


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install GNOME 3 in debian 6.0.3

2012-01-07 Thread hamed hosseini
*hi

how can i install GNOME 3 in Debian 6.0.3?

is GNOME 3 safe and stable for Debian 6.0.3?*


Re: dhclient renewal

2012-01-07 Thread hvw59601

hvw59601 wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:22:55 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:


hvw59601 wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:19:58 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:


The 2wire router from ISP Telmex Infinitum (Mexico) went on the blink
so they gave a new one. It's a Thomson TG585V8.

Hey, we've got a bunch of TG585v7 (for ISDN lines) :-)


One thing that I noticed is that the external IP now changes about
every hour or so, when the internet goes offline and after a minute
or so comes online again.

External (routeable) or internal (local network) IP?
 
 

External IP


Mmm, since when 192.168.1.x is an external IP? :-)



No, that is internal. My external IP is changed every hour or so:

Jan  7 09:18:41 HDBB ddclient[1730]: SUCCESS:  updating 
esquipulas-index.dyndns.org: good: IP address set to 189.188.156.182
Jan  7 09:44:10 HDBB ddclient[1730]: SUCCESS:  updating 
esquipulas-index.dyndns.org: good: IP address set to 189.188.159.254
Jan  7 10:59:15 HDBB ddclient[1730]: SUCCESS:  updating 
esquipulas-index.dyndns.org: good: IP address set to 187.136.115.174
Jan  7 11:54:28 HDBB ddclient[1730]: SUCCESS:  updating 
esquipulas-index.dyndns.org: good: IP address set to 187.136.114.47


Since I got on around 8AM, it is now 1PM, 5 hours, 4 changes.





I see this:

DHCP Lease Time:0 days, 23:59:49

but it is not configurable. And then I still see in syslog:


I take that back, it *is* configurable, 


Sure it is, rembember that I'm seeing the same as you :-P

but 23 hours is fine with me, 1 minute is not. 


Let me check my logs... okay, my dhcp client renews the lease every 9 
hours although I also have a 24 hours setup in the router. Weird.



Change it to 12 hours maybe? Would I mess things up? I hate to talk to
Telmex because then you have to hide the fact that you are running
Linux and pretend you are Window$ :-(


Your dhcp server (the router) is configured right (it keeps the lease 
for almost one day), so maybe is your dhcp client which requests for a 
lease? Look at /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf file and search for any 
lease stanza. If it is commented, edit accordingly to enable you can 
define there your client settings.




That's all commented out. Let me play with it. My feeling is that the 
short lease times for both devices have to do with the external IP changes.




And also the changes in leasetime occurred when the router changed, so 
IMO it is hardware related :-)


Hugo


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Re: Vodafone Mobile Internet modem

2012-01-07 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 07 ian 12, 20:07:29, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
 
 To access the internet I have paid for a Vodafone Mobile Internet
 Contract. However the provided Huawei usb modem has been nothing but
 trouble.

Can you provide some more details? I've used two different Huawei modems 
on squeeze without problems.

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Re: Removing debian from hdd

2012-01-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Camaleón wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  Camaleón wrote:
  Guido Martínez wrote:
   I recently borrowed a hard drive and installed debian on it,
   alongside windows. I used it for a couple of weeks.
   
   Later, I tried to remove debian by deleting the partitions I had
   installed it on, but that caused grub to fail horribly, and I had to
   reinstall debian. How can I remove debian? Can I make grub ignore
   that partition and then delete it?
  
  I don't understand what's your final goal, let's see...
  
  Guido says his goal is to remove Debian from the computer and enable it
  to boot without it.
 
 That's what I thought but I prefer to have a confirmation for this point.

Guido's words are quite clear.

  You have a hard disk with windows and debian installed on different
  partitions. Fine.
  
  GRUB is the default bootloader which allows you to boot into Debian or
  windows. Fine.
  
  You have deleted/formatted your Debian partitions. Fine. Then you
  reinstalled it (? - this was not needed at all).
  
  Incorrect.  It was needed.  
 
 (...)
 
 Not at all. You can do many things to get GRUB removed (fixmbr) or 
 windows booted (using SDG) without needing to install Debian again.

Incorrect.  For one at least some MS machines, and I daresay many of
them, do not include the necessary tools to repair themselves.  In
which case it is not possible to find a working fixmbr program by
booting the windows system even if you use a 3rd party boot media such
as SuperGrubDisk or Debian to boot it.

Secondly the problem was that the windows system would not boot
without some 3rd party boot media.  If you can't use the system then
you can't use the system to find out that even if you can boot it that
the tools needed (fixmbr, bootrec, others) are not included there.
Using Debian was just one of many possible 3rd party boot media
options.  But it was an available one.

Of course there are other options to reinstalling Debian.  But if you
have no other boot media in your hand but do have a Debian install
disk in your hand then installing Debian again seems a very obvious
course of action.  It often works out well as a rescue disk.  You
might wish you had another more appropriate to the task boot media
available but if you don't then it doesn't matter.  You end up using
what you have available.  It is just another 3rd party boot disk at
that point.

Were there other options available?  Of course there were.  The
universe is filled with a very large number of possibilities.

I think what Guido did was perfectly reasonable given the
circumstances.

Bob

P.S.  I think you meant to say SuperGrubDisk there instead of SDG.  Or
perhaps I mean to say that I have no idea what SDG might be otherwise.


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Re: Which development and image libraries needed to build emacs-24

2012-01-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Harry Putnam wrote:
 Which development and image libraries needed to build emacs-24
 Can anyone offer a suggestion of what pkgs might be missing.

A good place to start is with the build dependencies for emacs23.

  # apt-get install build-dep emacs23

Installing the build dependencies for emacs23 may not be sufficient
for building emacs24.  But it should get you quite far along the way
to it.  Try that first.

Bob


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Re: install GNOME 3 in debian 6.0.3

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Biebl
On 07.01.2012 19:57, hamed hosseini wrote:
 *hi
 
 how can i install GNOME 3 in Debian 6.0.3?
 
 is GNOME 3 safe and stable for Debian 6.0.3?*

No, that is not supported and easily possible.

If you want GNOME 3, upgrade to testing or unstable.

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