Nouveau!

2012-04-30 Thread David Baron
This has the "gallium" hardware acceleration code now and this is fantastic.My 
usual tests (using 3.1 kernel version):

Chromium-BSU space invadors runs flawlessly

Peguin racer would seem to run fine but has large artifacts, at least on my 
PCI express card which will run off latest and greatest nvidia on Sid. Thought 
painting background graphics was the problem but disabling this did not help, 
just that the artifact is blank instead of mountain.

Flightgear most likely will not run if penguin racer will not.

Might major complaint about the nvidia drivers is the thrashing of the console 
by some douibling of the lines or interlacing. Nouveau does not have this 
problem but switches to a much smaller font. This is just fine. However, every 
font on KDE looks substantually smaller as well.


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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-04-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 19:50 -0500, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
> > > George Orwell (1984)
> >
> > 1. Take care about /etc/default/rcS, there's an entry
> UTC=yes or UTC=no.
> > It should fit to the way you handle the clock.
> > 2. Install and run ntpdate as superuser: ntpdate -u
> ntp.favey.ch
> 
> 
> That did the trick!
> 
> Kjetil

Out of interest: Was it the UTC issue?



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Re: Network Manager forgets WPA2 password.

2012-04-30 Thread Christian
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:40:49 -0500, Indulekha   
wrote:



I'm running Debian Wheezy with Gnome 3.2


If you can, the best solution is to use wpa_supplicant to identify your
networks and provide appropriate authentication. It just takes a little
editing of the wpa_supplicant.conf. There's also a gui for it if you  
prefer,

archwiki has the best howto for it here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant#Dynamic_method:_.27wpa_gui.27.2C_.27wpa_cli.27


Thanks, I will look into that.

NM is not the most reliable piece of software, and wicd only allows one  
network

interface to be used at a time last I tried it.


I've been pretty happy with Network Manager over the last couple of years.  
Before that it was wicd, but I was under the impression that wicd was  
lagging development wise and not all up to date.


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Re: Network Manager forgets WPA2 password.

2012-04-30 Thread Christian
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:21:26 -0500, Adrian Fita   
wrote:



On 01/05/12 02:11, Christian wrote:

Hi,

When I log into Gnome-Shell my WPA2 password is remembered between
sessions in Network Manager. But when I log into my default desktop
(Pekwm/Tint2) which also uses Network Manager I have to enter the
password every time. What can I do to get Network Manager remember
the password outside of Gnome?

I'm running Debian Wheezy with Gnome 3.2


I think you don't have gnome-keyring-daemon running in Pekwm. This is a
common problem with window managers; you have to configure/start the
Gnome daemons that give the nice functionality by hand.


That's probably it.


What does it look like when running 'ps aux | grep gnome-keyring-daemon'
in a terminal? On my machine it gives the following:

ps aux | grep gnome-keyring-daemon
adrian2964  0.0  0.0   4052   760 pts/2S+   03:15   0:00 grep
gnome-keyring-daemon
adrian3816  0.0  0.1  58308  3696 ?SLl  01:30   0:00  
/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login


On mine:

1000 17180  0.0  0.0   7792   876 pts/0S+   23:41   0:00 grep  
gnome-keyring-daemon




I'm not sure how gnome-keyring-daemon is started, there is gnome-keyring  
stuff in /etc/xdg/autostart which gets started at login and also there  
is /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.keyring.service (but neither  
starts gnome-keyring-daemon with '--daemonize --login'). I myself am  
running Openbox, but thank god, I didn't have problems with this.


In Pekwm the startup "manage" is a text file called 'start'. I already  
have a few things started from there, so I will look into having  
gnome-keyring-daemon start also.


Thanks!


HTH.



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Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

2012-04-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
On 01/05/2012, Indulekha  wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 01:16:54AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>> On 30/04/2012, Sharon Kimble  wrote:
>> > On 30/04/2012, keith  wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:11 +0100
>> >> Sharon Kimble  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd
>> >>> for backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting
>> >>> disc I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of
>> >>> its title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
>> >>> obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.
>> >>>
>> >>> The command to genisoimage is . genisoimage -o
>> >>> ~/irishceltic.iso /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\
>> >>> Version\ 2/ .. which creates the file irishceltic.iso .
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Try it with:-
>> >>
>> >> genisoimage -o irishceltic.iso -R -J -l -v -V "Irish Celtic"
>> >> -hide-rr-moved
>> >> .
>> >>
>> >>
>> > When I run the above command this is the result  File
>> > ./irishceltic.iso is larger than 4GiB-1.
>> > -allow-limited-size was not specified. There is no way do represent
>> > this file size. Aborting.
>> >
>> > irishceltic.iso is 18.9gb in size
>> >
>> I've just completed a blog posting about all of this, where you can
>> see what I've done and in what order too.
>>
>> However, my final act was to burn the xaa.iso file to a dvd using k3b.
>> Looking at the finished dvd I see that every file name is truncated to
>> the first 12 characters, something which I think k3b is doing. Is
>> there any way round this that folks know please? It seems a pity to
>> spoil all the work done at the final step!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharon.
>> --

>>
>
> Why don't you just rename your files, replacing the spaces with
> underscores?
> It's easy enough to do and to reverse...
>
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Thats exactly what i've just done using a script that’s been given me
which replaces the spaces with underscores, it did the whole shebang
in less time than it takes me to brew a cup o f tea!

Thanks
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Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Hitt
Thanks Indulekha and Johan for the suggestions.

Indulekha, making a package is an intriguing idea, but
probably too ambitious for me at the moment.

Johan, your net is much more suggestive than mine :)
I did google around but didn't see that method.

There's also apparently yet another way, which is
not as systematic as the ones suggested by Indulekha and Johan,
and sort of similar to the ~/.xsession, but to do it in ~/.xinitrc.

That is from Pierre-Philipp Braun:
http://pbraun.nethence.com/doc/wm/windowmaker.html

I appreciate everybody's help in setting up my debian system.

dan

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Indulekha  wrote:
> Dan Hitt > This is a sort of subquery to the question of how to change window
>> managers.  (And thanks again Johan, Camaleón, and Indulekha for your
>> earlier help.)
>>
>> So the question is: supposing you compile a window manager yourself,
>> so that it does not come from the packaging system.
>>
>> What is the standard best way of setting this new window manager as yours?
>>
>> It certainly won't exist in any of the lists on the login page, since
>> debian could not know about it.
>>
>> So, i googled around, and there's this page
>>     http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/doc/debian/ch-X.html
>> which recommends just making an executable file
>>     /home/USER/.xsession
>> and putting in a sequence of commands there---which
>> could just be the path to your window manager.
>>
>> I tried this, and . . . . it works.
>>
>> But i feel a little uneasy about this, like this is not a best practice,
>> or some newer release of debian may break it.
>>
>> (Note that the window manager i built is WindowMaker 0.95.2 which
>> is a few revisions ahead of the squeeze version.  And although it
>> certainly works, and i can launch applications, it doesn't look at all
>> like the squeeze version.  For example, it has a solid light purple
>> background, instead of the debian swirls.)
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any info.
>>
>
> The best way is to make a debian package of it, then install it with
> dpkg. Check this out: http://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian
> Have fun!
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http://cdimage.debian.org/*-update-*.jigdo images?

2012-04-30 Thread David Christensen

debian-user:

I use jigdo to obtain Debian ISO images.  Tonight, I'm getting:

debian-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.jigdo
debian-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.template

Plus the four checksum and four signature files at:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/amd64/jigdo-cd/


I've also noticed "*-update-*" files in the same directory:

debian-update-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.jigdo
debian-update-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.template
...
debian-update-6.0.4-amd64-CD-11.template


I've STFW and have some guesses (mount the ISO's via /etc/fstab and 
loopback, add entries to /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get update, 
etc.), but is there anything I can RTFM?  Should I get all 11 images, or 
just #11?



TIA,

David


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Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

2012-04-30 Thread John L. Cunningham
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 01:16:54AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> I've just completed a blog posting about all of this, where you can
> see what I've done and in what order too.
> 
> However, my final act was to burn the xaa.iso file to a dvd using k3b.
> Looking at the finished dvd I see that every file name is truncated to
> the first 12 characters, something which I think k3b is doing. Is
> there any way round this that folks know please? It seems a pity to
> spoil all the work done at the final step!
> 
> Thanks
> Sharon.

Eight-dot-three is technically 12 characters. I wouldn't be surprised if the
culprit is genisoimage and not k3b. It looks like the default filesystem is
ISO9660. The man page doesn't say which level, but Level 1 can't handle long
filenames.  If the filename length matters, I use the "-l" switch to enable
full 31-characters. There are other options that enable longer filenames. "man 
genisoimage" is your friend.

I find it amazing that splitting an iso file results in something a DVD player 
can read. Actually, this could be the problem too, depending on how the meta 
information about the filesystem is stored.

As others have said, it's probably best if you create multiple DVD-sized iso 
files rather than chopping up one giant file. It sure seems like there would be 
some script out there that handles disk spanning, but nothing came up with my 
initial google search. Maybe because everyone else does what I do, which is 
fire up Brasero and select the files by hand?

John 


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

2012-04-30 Thread Eric Rodriguez
running "udevadm trigger" as root made keyboard/touchpad responsive for me.

until there's a fix, I just added that to the end of /etc/init.d/gdm


Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 01:16:54AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> On 30/04/2012, Sharon Kimble  wrote:
> > On 30/04/2012, keith  wrote:
> >> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:11 +0100
> >> Sharon Kimble  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd
> >>> for backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting
> >>> disc I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of
> >>> its title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
> >>> obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.
> >>>
> >>> The command to genisoimage is . genisoimage -o
> >>> ~/irishceltic.iso /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\
> >>> Version\ 2/ .. which creates the file irishceltic.iso .
> >>>
> >>
> >> Try it with:-
> >>
> >> genisoimage -o irishceltic.iso -R -J -l -v -V "Irish Celtic"
> >> -hide-rr-moved
> >> .
> >>
> >>
> > When I run the above command this is the result  File
> > ./irishceltic.iso is larger than 4GiB-1.
> > -allow-limited-size was not specified. There is no way do represent
> > this file size. Aborting.
> >
> > irishceltic.iso is 18.9gb in size
> >
> I've just completed a blog posting about all of this, where you can
> see what I've done and in what order too.
> 
> However, my final act was to burn the xaa.iso file to a dvd using k3b.
> Looking at the finished dvd I see that every file name is truncated to
> the first 12 characters, something which I think k3b is doing. Is
> there any way round this that folks know please? It seems a pity to
> spoil all the work done at the final step!
> 
> Thanks
> Sharon.
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Why don't you just rename your files, replacing the spaces with underscores?
It's easy enough to do and to reverse...

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Re: Network Manager forgets WPA2 password.

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 06:11:55PM -0500, Christian wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When I log into Gnome-Shell my WPA2 password is remembered between
> sessions in Network Manager. But when I log into my default desktop
> (Pekwm/Tint2) which also uses Network Manager I have to enter the
> password every time. What can I do to get Network Manager remember
> the password outside of Gnome?
> 
> I'm running Debian Wheezy with Gnome 3.2
> 

If you can, the best solution is to use wpa_supplicant to identify your 
networks and provide appropriate authentication. It just takes a little 
editing of the wpa_supplicant.conf. There's also a gui for it if you prefer, 
archwiki has the best howto for it here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant#Dynamic_method:_.27wpa_gui.27.2C_.27wpa_cli.27

NM is not the most reliable piece of software, and wicd only allows one network 
interface to be used at a time last I tried it.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 05:06:51PM -0500, Indulekha wrote:
> 
> [caution: rant ahead]
> 
> Argh -- I already *have* usenet access through NiN, and a very nicely detailed
> slrn config -- debian's list people should use a more competent mail2news 
> gateway
> that doesn't suck and break threading, period full stop. This annoys the 
> bejeepers 
> out of me. To use gmane I have to figure out how to run 2 nntpervers, what a 
> royal 
> PITA. Why do they bother with creating the usenet group linux.deian.user and 
> then  
> break interoperability with the list from which the group is derived?! 
> 
> [/rant]
> 
> Bah, I'll go have a cup of tea then maybe I'll face up to implementing this
> silly "gmane" kludge that absolutely should not be necessary. Damned 
> frustrating.
> Or mMaybe I'll just subscribe the normal way and spend ridiculously long 
> times 
> loading my mail across this pitiful dialup connection. I'll have to think on 
> it.
> 
> Anyway, thanks Camaleón for pointing me at that website (which absolutely 
> should
> not be necessary).
>

Ok, so I subscribed the "normal" way, and I'll just periodically purge the 
mails to avoid waiting for 857,000 emails to load over dialup.
I don't like it though, and it really strikes me as incredibly obvious that 
there's just no excuse for the silliness of no header interoperability between 
the mailing list and the usenet group. Apparently for the sake of someone's ego 
being tickled by having "bofh" in their custom headers. Flippin' weenie...

Glad I got that off my chest, I feel better now. :)

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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Tom H a écrit :
> 
> Googling through Debian lists, I see that you've disliked
> "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/" since its inception; and rightly so.

I don't know what you've found, but you misunderstood : I do not dislike
/etc/network/if-*.d/.

> But disliking the use of "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/" for iptables
> doesn't mean that Debian isn't committed to it and that it isn't that
> way that we're expected to run iptables;

Again, you misunderstood whatever I wrote.


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Re: Network Manager forgets WPA2 password.

2012-04-30 Thread Adrian Fita

On 01/05/12 02:11, Christian wrote:

Hi,

When I log into Gnome-Shell my WPA2 password is remembered between
sessions in Network Manager. But when I log into my default desktop
(Pekwm/Tint2) which also uses Network Manager I have to enter the
password every time. What can I do to get Network Manager remember
the password outside of Gnome?

I'm running Debian Wheezy with Gnome 3.2


I think you don't have gnome-keyring-daemon running in Pekwm. This is a
common problem with window managers; you have to configure/start the
Gnome daemons that give the nice functionality by hand.

What does it look like when running 'ps aux | grep gnome-keyring-daemon'
in a terminal? On my machine it gives the following:

ps aux | grep gnome-keyring-daemon
adrian2964  0.0  0.0   4052   760 pts/2S+   03:15   0:00 grep
gnome-keyring-daemon
adrian3816  0.0  0.1  58308  3696 ?SLl  01:30   0:00 
/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login


I'm not sure how gnome-keyring-daemon is started, there is gnome-keyring 
stuff in /etc/xdg/autostart which gets started at login and also there 
is /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.keyring.service (but neither 
starts gnome-keyring-daemon with '--daemonize --login'). I myself am 
running Openbox, but thank god, I didn't have problems with this.


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Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

2012-04-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
On 30/04/2012, Sharon Kimble  wrote:
> On 30/04/2012, keith  wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:11 +0100
>> Sharon Kimble  wrote:
>>
>>> I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd
>>> for backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting
>>> disc I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of
>>> its title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
>>> obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.
>>>
>>> The command to genisoimage is . genisoimage -o
>>> ~/irishceltic.iso /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\
>>> Version\ 2/ .. which creates the file irishceltic.iso .
>>>
>>
>> Try it with:-
>>
>> genisoimage -o irishceltic.iso -R -J -l -v -V "Irish Celtic"
>> -hide-rr-moved
>> .
>>
>>
> When I run the above command this is the result  File
> ./irishceltic.iso is larger than 4GiB-1.
> -allow-limited-size was not specified. There is no way do represent
> this file size. Aborting.
>
> irishceltic.iso is 18.9gb in size
>
I've just completed a blog posting about all of this, where you can
see what I've done and in what order too.

However, my final act was to burn the xaa.iso file to a dvd using k3b.
Looking at the finished dvd I see that every file name is truncated to
the first 12 characters, something which I think k3b is doing. Is
there any way round this that folks know please? It seems a pity to
spoil all the work done at the final step!

Thanks
Sharon.
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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-04-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 01:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 23:18 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:33:53PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 12:39 -0500, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
> > > > Hola!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I am using debian wheezy (amd-64), with LXDE.
> > > > 
> > > > My problem is that the computer clock is WRONG. Which program should I
> > > > install so that I
> > > > can fix time (definig tz, etc), with LXDE?
> > > > 
> > > > Kjetil
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > "If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the
> > > > human face - forever." 
> > > > 
> > > > George Orwell (1984)
> > > 
> > > 1. Take care about /etc/default/rcS, there's an entry UTC=yes or UTC=no.
> > > It should fit to the way you handle the clock.
> > 
> > This is correct.  However, it will hopefully be removed soon, at
> > which point it will be stored directly in hwclock's conffile, and
> > you can then change the setting using --utc or --localtime as
> > documented in the hwclock manpage.
> > 
> > Note this hasn't happened yet, but is pending upload.
> 
> Hopefully FS checks some day will stop to announce, that a FS was last
> time booted in the future :D.
> 
> Anyway, issues regarding to the time usually are caused by an empty
> battery or by the entry in /etc/default/rcS. Timezone and ntp (sntp)
> usually are ok ;).
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf

PS:

For my usage the time isn't much important. I need complete independent
backups, instead of syncs and I mount partitions with noatime, but for
some usages the time can be very, very, very important.


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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-04-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 23:18 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:33:53PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 12:39 -0500, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
> > > Hola!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am using debian wheezy (amd-64), with LXDE.
> > > 
> > > My problem is that the computer clock is WRONG. Which program should I
> > > install so that I
> > > can fix time (definig tz, etc), with LXDE?
> > > 
> > > Kjetil
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > "If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the
> > > human face - forever." 
> > > 
> > > George Orwell (1984)
> > 
> > 1. Take care about /etc/default/rcS, there's an entry UTC=yes or UTC=no.
> > It should fit to the way you handle the clock.
> 
> This is correct.  However, it will hopefully be removed soon, at
> which point it will be stored directly in hwclock's conffile, and
> you can then change the setting using --utc or --localtime as
> documented in the hwclock manpage.
> 
> Note this hasn't happened yet, but is pending upload.

Hopefully FS checks some day will stop to announce, that a FS was last
time booted in the future :D.

Anyway, issues regarding to the time usually are caused by an empty
battery or by the entry in /etc/default/rcS. Timezone and ntp (sntp)
usually are ok ;).

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

2012-04-30 Thread Charles Kroeger

> That you can provide such detail and yet not use the tool yourself.
> 
> Hugo

> >> Do you run shorewall?
> > 
> > Not at all.


Hugo, despite being complex in appearance shorewall is 'easy' to set up for a 
strong
firewall with example files provided with the installation. The installation 
can be
a work in progress if you're curious, without starting it until you're ready. 
Don't
forget that /etc/default/shorewall directory unless you like starting shorewall
manually at every boot.

I used to use the arno-iptables-firewall an even simpler installation for a 
strong
firewall but the script that runs arno-iptables-firewall can be adjusted to do
whatever exotic requirements you may need just like shorewall.

Hugo, what would be really impressive is if 'you' started using mutt as your 
email
client. I would be impressed at least.

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Re: Network Manager forgets WPA2 password.

2012-04-30 Thread Wayne Topa

On 04/30/2012 07:11 PM, Christian wrote:

Hi,

When I log into Gnome-Shell my WPA2 password is remembered between
sessions in Network Manager. But when I log into my default desktop
(Pekwm/Tint2) which also uses Network Manager I have to enter the
password every time. What can I do to get Network Manager remember the
password outside of Gnome?

I'm running Debian Wheezy with Gnome 3.2


I do not use gnome. But this is the way I do it.

less /etc/network/interfaces

# Netgear wg111v2 rtl8187 module
#
# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug wlan1
iface wlan1 inet dhcp
modprobe rtl8187
wpa-ssid Verizon MiFi2200 C4B5 Secure
wpa-psk  xxx

That is NOT the user password, it is the password to
connect to my Wireless provider.

Regards
Wayne


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Network Manager forgets WPA2 password.

2012-04-30 Thread Christian

Hi,

When I log into Gnome-Shell my WPA2 password is remembered between  
sessions in Network Manager. But when I log into my default desktop  
(Pekwm/Tint2) which also uses Network Manager I have to enter the password  
every time. What can I do to get Network Manager remember the password  
outside of Gnome?


I'm running Debian Wheezy with Gnome 3.2

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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-30 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 04:47:30PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:25:47AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> > Well, it didn't take long to find the answer on the internet.  Get your
> > firewall set up and then:
> > 
> > iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules
> > 
> > I tested it and it works!
> 
> What version of the package? It would appear the file should be rules.v4 or
> rules.v6 (for ipv4 and ipv6 respectively), according to the README[1], at 
> least
> for later releases.
> 
I'm on Squeeze, using iptables-persistent 0.0.20100801

-Rob


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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

2012-04-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Ellwood Blues:
> 2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald :
> > Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister:
> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> >> > Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to the
> >> > OS they have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those should
> >> > work. But with 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit when you
> >> > use MBR partitioning.
> >> > 
> >> > 3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and software
> >> > (logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new enough.
> >> > 
> >> > On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage).
> >> 
> >> Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your post)
> >> which command requires the additional options: -cu. Which manpage?
> > 
> > fdisk. Sorry if I didn´t mention it anywhere in my post.
> 
> Thanks, I've tried everything but not success. The problem is that the
> disk is already half full and aligned with WD tools. I am just waiting
> for linux to be able to read it and write it as efficiently as Windows
> does it, at the moment I am not able to read it, which is very
> frustrating.

I would like to see some information from the disk, like 

- relevant stuff from hdparm -I /dev/yourdisk (feel free to skip serial 
number if you do not want to post it here)
- fdisk -cul /dev/yourdisk
- tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog / dmesg when the kernel detects the disk

for starters.

You need to use GPT if the disk reports 512 byte sectors to the OS. Thats 
no problem, when its just a data disk. Try gdisk on the disk.

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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-04-30 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:33:53PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 12:39 -0500, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
> > Hola!
> > 
> > 
> > I am using debian wheezy (amd-64), with LXDE.
> > 
> > My problem is that the computer clock is WRONG. Which program should I
> > install so that I
> > can fix time (definig tz, etc), with LXDE?
> > 
> > Kjetil
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > "If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the
> > human face - forever." 
> > 
> > George Orwell (1984)
> 
> 1. Take care about /etc/default/rcS, there's an entry UTC=yes or UTC=no.
> It should fit to the way you handle the clock.

This is correct.  However, it will hopefully be removed soon, at
which point it will be stored directly in hwclock's conffile, and
you can then change the setting using --utc or --localtime as
documented in the hwclock manpage.

Note this hasn't happened yet, but is pending upload.


Regards,
Roger

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Re: Desktop use (xfce) and system groups

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 23:16:03 +0300, Touko Korpela wrote:

> Hi.
> I'm running wheezy. Can someone give a list of groups, that desktop users
> should belong that video/audio playback (pulseaudio) work smoothly and they
> can for example shutdown/reboot system and use removable media without root
> password?

An Xfce install can implement all those actions. It would be better if
you could describe what it is you cannot do or what you want to achieve.

> Here is group listing from installed system.

[List of groups snipped]

Looks ok.


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
>
> I use Gmane and post/read to mailing lists by using a newsreader client:
>
> http://gmane.org/
>

[caution: rant ahead]

Argh -- I already *have* usenet access through NiN, and a very nicely detailed
slrn config -- debian's list people should use a more competent mail2news 
gateway
that doesn't suck and break threading, period full stop. This annoys the 
bejeepers 
out of me. To use gmane I have to figure out how to run 2 nntpervers, what a 
royal 
PITA. Why do they bother with creating the usenet group linux.deian.user and 
then  
break interoperability with the list from which the group is derived?! 

[/rant]

Bah, I'll go have a cup of tea then maybe I'll face up to implementing this
silly "gmane" kludge that absolutely should not be necessary. Damned 
frustrating.
Or mMaybe I'll just subscribe the normal way and spend ridiculously long times 
loading my mail across this pitiful dialup connection. I'll have to think on it.

Anyway, thanks Camaleón for pointing me at that website (which absolutely should
not be necessary).

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 20:28:24 +, Camaleón wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:28:30 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> 
> > Well, side-stepped, or buried, not really solved.   :-)
> 
> Yup, but what could I do? The annoying posts are not reaching the list 
> neither Gmane's archive so... what do you suggest? I'm all ears O:-)

A first step is to determine where the mails originate from. It's the
only data you have.

> > Finally, FWIW, I didn't see anything from joe1 after my last post.  Of
> > course, it could have been caught by a server-side spamtrap.  Normally
> > though, emails of that type arrive and end up in the "unsure" pile that
> > bogofilter generates during mail import.
> 
> You can try to reply to this thread ("grub2 loop back is not working") 
> which is one of those that seem to trigger the annoying e-mail.

No it doesn't. Not for me, anyway. For you, maybe. And it could involve
replying to certain posters only.


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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-30 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Rob Owens  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:14:36AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
>>
>> In the meantime, I'm trying out iptables-persistent.  I have it installed 
>> now,
>> but there is no manpage and nothing useful in /usr/share/doc.  Time to
>> do some research...
>>
> Well, it didn't take long to find the answer on the internet.  Get your
> firewall set up and then:
>
> iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules
>
> I tested it and it works!

:)

You must be using Squeeze because on Sid it's "rules.v4" and "rules.v6".


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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-30 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Rob Owens  wrote:


> I have tried to use /etc/network/if-pre-up.d on my laptop (which uses
> NetworkManager) and it does not load my iptables rules.  But if I call
> my script manually, it will load properly.  Is NetworkManager
> incompatible with /etc/network/if-pre-up.d?

"/etc/network/if-pre-up.d" applies to ifup not to NM. The NM
equivalent is "/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d".


> In the meantime, I'm trying out iptables-persistent.  I have it installed now,
> but there is no manpage and nothing useful in /usr/share/doc.  Time to
> do some research...

Take a look at the init script. It loads firewall rules from "/etc/iptables".


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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-30 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Jon Dowland  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 05:38:45AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> …or using something more or less non-standard like the
>> apf-firewall or arno-iptables-firewall packages (or any other iptables
>> frontend; these are the two that I know of).
>
> ufw is another which is quite simple for basic firewall needs.

Thanks for pointing this out. I should've remembered it since I've had
to use it in production but have only tested the other two.

ufw's different from apf and arno because it's a command-line frontend
to iptables whereas with apf and arno there's just some config files
to edit.


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Wayne Topa

On 04/30/2012 12:11 PM, Camaleón wrote:

Hello,

Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain
messages of this mailing list?

I'm now getting this which pretends to be from myself so I guess the
other posts I received were also faked in the same way.



Yes, I received 2-3 but someone must have marked then as Spam on gmail.

They have stopped now for me.

Wayne


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Re: Script request for files truncating with genisoimage

2012-04-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
On 30/04/2012, Jon Dowland  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 07:09:02PM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>> i am using genisoimage on this folder ./home/boztu/Music/Irish Celtic
>> Music Collection Version 2  which contains 2976 mp3s, but it is
>> truncating
>> the file names after the first word of their title. It appears to be doing
>> this
>> at the first space that it encounters, so I'm hoping someone can help me
>> by
>> suggesting a script that I can run that will remove all spaces in the
>> file
>> names, before .mp3, to enable genisoimage to run properly. The iso it
>> creates
>> is 18.9gbs in size and I then run split to make it into 4gb sized files to
>> be
>> burnt to dvds.
>>
>> Can you help me please? I realise that I'm asking a lot but script
>> writing is not something that I'm very good at and dont know where to
>> start.
>
> You're doing it wrong :-)
>
> Figure out how to use datapacker.  Please provide more info about how you've
> tried
> it so we can help you solve why it isn't working for you. (either in this
> thread
> or in the other.)
>
> Then, generate *multiple* ISOs, one for each disc you're going to burn, and
> use
> -r and -J arguments to genisoimage when you create these ISOs. The
> individual
> DVD images (which will be no larger than about 4.3G if you use datapacker
> correctly) will have the filenames correct.

But thats what I'm already doing except for using datapacker!
>
> Burn each of these ISOs individually.
>
> The approach you are using is doomed to failure. You're creating a gigantic
> ISO, which can't use Rock Ridge and/or Joliet due to the size, and so your
> filenames are limited to a max of I think 8 characters without spaces,
> which
> will make distinguishing *any* 2,976 files hard, even if you remove spaces
> and
> rename files to try and help. You're then splitting the ISO image up -
> which
> cannot be used again until recombined - and burning each bit individually,
> *as
> a file within another ISO image, one per disc*!  The net result is going to
> be
> five ISO filesystems on DVD-Rs, each containing a single file which is a
> chunk
> of a larger ISO filesystem, with the majority of the file metadata (their
> long
> file names) missing.
>
The big iso is split with 'split' to chuncks of 3.9gbs which are
playable, after being burned to dvd,  very easily using rhythmbox and
you have no way of knowing that you're hearing music off the dvd
drive.

Thanks
Sharon.
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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:28:24 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:

Hello Camaleón,

> Ah.. are you also using a news server?

No, I sub to the ML directly.

> It happens "automatically" (with no other interaction from my part
> other than replying to a message) and at a "random" basis (it does not
> happen for all of my replies, only when I reply to specific threads).
> Hope it's more clear now :-)

Yes it is, thanks.

> > Well, side-stepped, or buried, not really solved.   :-)
> Yup, but what could I do? The annoying posts are not reaching the list 
> neither Gmane's archive so... what do you suggest? I'm all ears O:-)

I wish I had something more helpful to suggest, but unfortunately, I
don't.   :-(

> You can try to reply to this thread ("grub2 loop back is not working") 
> which is one of those that seem to trigger the annoying e-mail.

If I can, I will;  No point in posting a message to that thread unless
I've got something to useful to say.  Anything else is just noise.

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Re: Flashbench

2012-04-30 Thread Touko Korpela
These links have more information about optimizing linux with flash drives
and flashbench backround (I had this in my bookmarks)
https://lwn.net/Articles/428584/
https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/KernelConsolidation/Projects/FlashCardSurvey


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:28:30 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:52:05 + (UTC) Camaleón 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Camaleón,
> 
>> That could be the common link for those who receive these messages
>> (Indulekha is also using an external gateway and also gets them).
> 
> Indeed, but I hadn't noticed that at the time I replied.

Ah.. are you also using a news server?

>> But I still fail to see what can cause this which OTOH, only happens
> 
> No idea, TBH.  Does such a message arrive for each post you make to the
> list, or just some of them?  You wrote in another message it happens
> "automatically and randomly" which seems almost contradictory.
> Automatically might imply it always happens, randomly indicates
> otherwise.

It happens "automatically" (with no other interaction from my part other 
than replying to a message) and at a "random" basis (it does not happen 
for all of my replies, only when I reply to specific threads). Hope it's 
more clear now :-)

>> Okay... I will add a rule to Gmail and problem solved. Thanks all for
> 
> Well, side-stepped, or buried, not really solved.   :-)

Yup, but what could I do? The annoying posts are not reaching the list 
neither Gmane's archive so... what do you suggest? I'm all ears O:-)

>> your input.
> 
> YW.
> 
> Finally, FWIW, I didn't see anything from joe1 after my last post.  Of
> course, it could have been caught by a server-side spamtrap.  Normally
> though, emails of that type arrive and end up in the "unsure" pile that
> bogofilter generates during mail import.

You can try to reply to this thread ("grub2 loop back is not working") 
which is one of those that seem to trigger the annoying e-mail.

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dhclient

2012-04-30 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,

I have a server with several NICs, most of them have fixes addresses. One has 
an address assigned via DHCP as is it the cable internet connection.
I now have a problem with that connection and want to reconnect by forcing a 
DHCP renewal, but... how?

As on this server there is only one NIC with a DHCP assigned address I might 
get away with just a restart of the dhclient service but, is there a way to 
just request it for one nic?
I was unable to find it in the docs.

Bonno


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Desktop use (xfce) and system groups

2012-04-30 Thread Touko Korpela
Hi.
I'm running wheezy. Can someone give a list of groups, that desktop users
should belong that video/audio playback (pulseaudio) work smoothly and they
can for example shutdown/reboot system and use removable media without root
password?

Here is group listing from installed system.

root
daemon
bin
sys
adm
tty
disk
lp
mail
news
uucp
man
proxy
kmem
dialout
fax
voice
cdrom
floppy
tape
sudo
audio
dip
www-data
backup
operator
list
irc
src
gnats
shadow
utmp
video
sasl
plugdev
staff
games
users
nogroup
libuuid
crontab
fuse
scanner
messagebus
Debian-exim
mlocate
ssh
avahi-autoipd
avahi
netdev
bluetooth
lpadmin
ssl-cert
utempter
saned
lightdm
ntp
colord
vlock
pulse
pulse-access
rtkit


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Re: Script request for files truncating with genisoimage

2012-04-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 07:09:02PM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> i am using genisoimage on this folder ./home/boztu/Music/Irish Celtic
> Music Collection Version 2  which contains 2976 mp3s, but it is truncating
> the file names after the first word of their title. It appears to be doing 
> this
> at the first space that it encounters, so I'm hoping someone can help me by
> suggesting a script that I can run that will remove all spaces in the file
> names, before .mp3, to enable genisoimage to run properly. The iso it creates
> is 18.9gbs in size and I then run split to make it into 4gb sized files to be
> burnt to dvds.
> 
> Can you help me please? I realise that I'm asking a lot but script
> writing is not something that I'm very good at and dont know where to
> start.

You're doing it wrong :-)

Figure out how to use datapacker.  Please provide more info about how you've 
tried
it so we can help you solve why it isn't working for you. (either in this thread
or in the other.)

Then, generate *multiple* ISOs, one for each disc you're going to burn, and use
-r and -J arguments to genisoimage when you create these ISOs. The individual
DVD images (which will be no larger than about 4.3G if you use datapacker
correctly) will have the filenames correct.

Burn each of these ISOs individually.

The approach you are using is doomed to failure. You're creating a gigantic
ISO, which can't use Rock Ridge and/or Joliet due to the size, and so your
filenames are limited to a max of I think 8 characters without spaces, which
will make distinguishing *any* 2,976 files hard, even if you remove spaces and
rename files to try and help. You're then splitting the ISO image up - which
cannot be used again until recombined - and burning each bit individually, *as 
a file within another ISO image, one per disc*!  The net result is going to be
five ISO filesystems on DVD-Rs, each containing a single file which is a chunk
of a larger ISO filesystem, with the majority of the file metadata (their long
file names) missing.


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Re: using LVM on a cluster

2012-04-30 Thread David Sastre Medina
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 02:20:31PM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I am in the process of setting up a small 2-node HA cluster (for NFS,
> active/passive) with a shared disk for storage. Because Corosync and
> pacemaker look nice and good, I am trying to make it work with this
> combination instead of cman, which is what clvm is compiled for in Debian.
> 
> There are a couple of howto's on the web on recompiling the lvm package
> with Openais or Corosync , so that's what I did. However, I'm still
> confused about the relationship between the cluster manager and the lock
> manager. If I understood right, this is the correct order in which
> things will be started:
> 
> * start Corosync (or openais, if clvm is compiled with openais support
> instead)
> * you need to run some kind of resource manager
> * the resource manager (pacemaker) must have a resource defined that is
> the dlm controld - I tried starting dlm_controld at the command line,
> this seems to make clvm happy but unfortunately that command has no man
> page.
> * then, a bunch of files appear in /sys/kernel/config/dlm
> 
> Actually, that controld should be started by the cluster resource
> manager is also something I just read on the web, and it sounds kinda
> odd to me. After all, you need to run an instance on every cluster node
> that accesses shared storage, right?
> 
> 
> [[I also tried the same thing but with a clvm compiled for openais, I
> read it uses another lock manager ("Lck") but I'm not sure if and how
> this one is actually cluster-aware since it doesn't seem to rely on a
> resource defined in the cluster.]]
> 
> [[Another thing that I find rather strange is that corosync is started
> wy at the end of the boot process, and clvm is started at the
> beginning, even if I changed the dependency of 'cman' to 'corosync' in
> clvm's init script. (clvm is started in rcS.d). But that's got more to
> do with lsb init scripting than with clustering, I suppose.]]
> 
> 
> If anyone could make me wiser or more educated about any of this, I'd be
> grateful :-)

Hello,

IIRC a distributed lock manager (DLM for short) is needed whenever an
active/active resource is used, e.g. a shared filesystem. OCFS2 and
GFS2 implement their own DLMs.
For an active/passive cluster, you'd need to define your resources and
a floating IP with stickyness WRT to those resources.
A DRBD in master/slave would be more appropriate IMHO.

Others might have other experiences/opinions or corrections.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 20:57:10 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

[Mutt snipped most of the dross, I got rid of the rest of it.]

> 30.04.2012 20:54, Jon Dowland kirjoitti:
> > How would that prevent or otherwise help solve this problem?
> 
> It wouldn't, . . . .

You were on a winner and should have stopped writing here because
this

> . . . . but it would give people a hint that message is faked if
> it's missing signature and that person usually signs everything.

is irrelevant if the message being received is not from you, which
appears to be the case here.


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:15:02 -0500, Indulekha wrote:

> Camaleón  wrote:
>>
>> But I still fail to see what can cause this which OTOH, only happens in
>> this mailing list (I follow -read/post- another Debian mailing lists
>> via Gmane but I don't get this kind of replies :-?).
>>
>>
> Can you actually post via usenet, and if so, how? I tried that a few
> times, but my posts never showed up, so I got the impression the
> mail2news thingie was strictly one way.

I use Gmane and post/read to mailing lists by using a newsreader client:

http://gmane.org/

Should you are interested in setting up this or find any problem with its 
configuration just drop me a line off-list.

> Also, not so long ago someone emailed me to complain that I was breaking
> threads. Am I? It looks just fine to me on usenet...

Well, I'm afraid that "kind of" :-)

You can see it by yourself, your posts are not properly threaded:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/thrd4.html#01943

And if you look into your messages "References" header field they seem to 
be pointing always to these (your own?) posts:

References: 
 
 

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 14:27:27 -0500, Indulekha wrote:

> I suppose you don't want to hear about the results of my scrying 
> in the pond under the full moon then, either? Jeesh! Some people 
> are just so closed-minded...
> ;)

I could just about stand that but, if it is a cold night, please don't
mention phlogiston. It makes my skin go all tingly.


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:37:26 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

> 30.04.2012 20:16, Camaleón kirjoitti:

(...)

>>> By the way, this looks like a reason to GPG sign everything, like I am
>>> doing. There is sometimes arguing at gnupg-user and enigmail user
>>> about should messages to mailing lists be signed or not. I think that
>>> there was once such arguement here too in some of those multiple [OT]
>>> Posting styles threads.
>> 
>> I would be against forcing the usage of signed e-mails for mailing
>> lists which, by the way, can be also automated and used to send spam or
>> "faked" messages: you don't solve a problem like this with just
>> GPG/PGP, you need to apply additional counter-measures.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> You misunderstood me. I only said that it's a reason to use GPG, not
> that it should be forced.

But Mika, if you don't enforce a policy then is the same that not using 
it, don't you think? :-) 

If anyone can decide whether to use or not signatures for their posts, 
where is the gain? I can decide to go that path but in what way that will 
change anything?

> If GPG signatures would be forced, amount of posts on this list would
> drop and there wouldn't be so many people on this list.

Of course. For instance, it will prevent me from posting.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 13:33:43 -0500, Indulekha wrote:
>
>> Brian  wrote:
>> >
>> > Do you have anything specific in mind or is this just a feeling you
>> > have in your waters?
>> 
>> Naw, I just feel the vibration in the aether, LOL. :)
>
> This is a technically based mailing list; can we stick to observable
> phenomena? The aether is old hat. :)

I suppose you don't want to hear about the results of my scrying 
in the pond under the full moon then, either? Jeesh! Some people 
are just so closed-minded...
;)
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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 13:15:02 -0500, Indulekha wrote:
>
> [Snip]
>
>> Also, not so long ago someone emailed me to complain that I 
>> was breaking threads. Am I? It looks just fine to me on usenet...
>
> You've broken every thread and sub-thread I've seen you take part in.
> This is not a complaint - but you did ask. :)
>
> How avoidable it is I do not know, so I am unable to help you.
>

It's either something to do with the References header the mail2news 
gateway software makes being incompatible with the mailing list's 
headers, or it's that certain MUAs drop the ball on threading 
under some circumstances. But it does look just fine to me on 
usenet, so it must be either addressable or perhaps an MUA-related
issue some folks have. Being way out in the middle of nowhere on a 
s-l-o-w dialup connection means I'm not willing to receive all that 
mail from the list, sorry.

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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 20:24:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> The mouse does work with old Debian and other Linuxes. Please let us
> stop talking about my mouse. I guess the OP will get his mouse working.

Isn't conversation about your mouse better being in the open. We'll
only talk about it behind your back otherwise. :)


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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-30 Thread Ellwood Blues
2012/4/29 Camaleón :
 the
> final decision on what to use and how to use it is always on the user's
> side.
>
> Greetings,

I agree with that.

Cheers.


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 13:33:43 -0500, Indulekha wrote:

> Brian  wrote:
> >
> > Do you have anything specific in mind or is this just a feeling you
> > have in your waters?
> 
> Naw, I just feel the vibration in the aether, LOL. :)

This is a technically based mailing list; can we stick to observable
phenomena? The aether is old hat. :)


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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-30 Thread Ellwood Blues
Please post on the list, if you prefer so.

Wait for Mate 1.2.3 because there is a bug with a library that blocks
partially the upgrades on Wheezy, at the moment I am on Wheezy with
Mate 1.2.0 and I've read  that it the bug is fixed on 1.2.3 version.
After that it should be smooth and easy. Anyway everything is working
OK on my system apart from the upgrades.

http://mate-desktop.org/install/#debian


2012/4/30 James Allsopp :
> Hi,
> Sorry for the delay, I was OP on this but was away for the weekend.
>
> I run LXDE and XFCE on my other linux machines, but whilst good they seem to
> lack the polish of Gnome 2. I also tried KDE4 but seemed to run very slowly
> on my Core2duo. I'd used gnome for about  nine years and did all of my
> research using it, so I'm very disappointed with what I've heard about gnome
> 3. It doesn't even seem like Gnome 3 has been finished yet to release
> standards from what I have read.
>
> I seems like Mate is the best option, so if anyone knows a good guide for
> getting this set up on Wheezy, I'd be grateful.
>
> Also does anyone know anything about cinnamon on Debian?
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
>
> On 28/04/12 19:47, Ellwood Blues wrote:
>>>
>>> So thanks but no, I will be be loyal to GNOME until they decide to take a
>>> radical path I can't deal with (like it happened when I moved from KDE 3
>>> to GNOME 2 because of the poor state of KDE 4.0).
>>
>>
>>
>> So you will be loyal but Gnome won't?
>>
>> I think that that mentality will kill linux.
>>
>> As Jono Bacon said recently «Canonical used to be a project but now is
>> a product.»
>>
>> I am sorry but I prefer on linux the project mentality. Products are
>> Windows and Apple and Android and Unity, etc.
>>
>> Happy that Debian is still there.
>>
>>
>


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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-04-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 20:33 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 12:39 -0500, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
> > Hola!
> > 
> > 
> > I am using debian wheezy (amd-64), with LXDE.
> > 
> > My problem is that the computer clock is WRONG. Which program should I
> > install so that I
> > can fix time (definig tz, etc), with LXDE?
> > 
> > Kjetil
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > "If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the
> > human face - forever." 
> > 
> > George Orwell (1984)
> 
> 1. Take care about /etc/default/rcS, there's an entry UTC=yes or UTC=no.
> It should fit to the way you handle the clock.
> 2. Install and run ntpdate as superuser: ntpdate -u ntp.favey.ch
> It automatically will set time and date.
> 
> Hth,
> Ralf

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
Brian  wrote:
> On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 12:06:40 -0500, Indulekha wrote:
>
>> I keep waiting for Ubuntu to get hit with malware, surprising it 
>> hasn't happened yet (though it almost certainly will).
>
> Do you have anything specific in mind or is this just a feeling you
> have in your waters?
>

Naw, I just feel the vibration in the aether, LOL. :)

No actually -- it's because they're following a path 
(not unlike Apple) of starting with a secure, unix-like 
system and then "dumbing it down" for non-technically-inclined 
users. This always seems to create vulnerabilities, sooner or 
later... 

And also because they're becoming a fairly large target.
Mind you, I don't *like* the idea of malware for Ubuntu one bit 
-- I have converted a number of non-techie friends and family to 
using Ubuntu and Mint. When it does happen it may not be so bad, 
because they do have a good autoupdate system.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 13:15:02 -0500, Indulekha wrote:

[Snip]

> Also, not so long ago someone emailed me to complain that I 
> was breaking threads. Am I? It looks just fine to me on usenet...

You've broken every thread and sub-thread I've seen you take part in.
This is not a complaint - but you did ask. :)

How avoidable it is I do not know, so I am unable to help you.


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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-04-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 12:39 -0500, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
> Hola!
> 
> 
> I am using debian wheezy (amd-64), with LXDE.
> 
> My problem is that the computer clock is WRONG. Which program should I
> install so that I
> can fix time (definig tz, etc), with LXDE?
> 
> Kjetil
> 
> 
> -- 
> "If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the
> human face - forever." 
> 
> George Orwell (1984)

1. Take care about /etc/default/rcS, there's an entry UTC=yes or UTC=no.
It should fit to the way you handle the clock.
2. Install and run ntpdate as superuser: ntpdate -u ntp.favey.ch
It automatically will set time and date.

Hth,
Ralf


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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

2012-04-30 Thread Ellwood Blues
2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald :
> Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister:
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>> > Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to the OS
>> > they have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those should work.
>> > But with 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit when you use MBR
>> > partitioning.
>> >
>> > 3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and software
>> > (logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new enough.
>> >
>> > On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage).
>>
>> Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your post)
>> which command requires the additional options: -cu. Which manpage?
>
> fdisk. Sorry if I didn´t mention it anywhere in my post.

Thanks, I've tried everything but not success. The problem is that the
disk is already half full and aligned with WD tools. I am just waiting
for linux to be able to read it and write it as efficiently as Windows
does it, at the moment I am not able to read it, which is very
frustrating.


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Re: Script request for files truncating with genisoimage

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 19:09:02 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:

> i am using genisoimage on this folder ./home/boztu/Music/Irish Celtic
> Music Collection Version 2  which contains 2976 mp3s, but it is truncating
> the file names after the first word of their title. It appears to be doing 
> this
> at the first space that it encounters, so I'm hoping someone can help me by
> suggesting a script that I can run that will remove all spaces in the file
> names, before .mp3, to enable genisoimage to run properly. The iso it creates
> is 18.9gbs in size and I then run split to make it into 4gb sized files to be
> burnt to dvds.

You should have the program 'rename' already on your system. so

rename 'y/ /_/' *

will replace a space with a _. Test first with a small number of files
copied to a testing directory.


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Re: SOLVED Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.

2012-04-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
On 30/04/2012, Indulekha  wrote:
> Sharon Kimble  wrote:
>>>
>> I installed datapacker from the repo but do not understand how to use
>> it. It does not appear to be able to be directed to a specific
>> directory where the mp3 files are without checking other directories.
>> I've read http://jgoerzen.github.com/datapacker/datapacker.html but
>> still fail to understand how to use it.
>>
>
> I don't have time to look into it right now, but a quick glance at
> "man datapacker" does show there are quite a few options, and so
> it may not not particularly simple to use for the first time.
> Nowadays I usually just put things on USB sticks or external hard
> drives, so there's rarely a reason for me to write to optical media.
> IDK why none of the GUI disk writing programs can do it automatically,
> though -- I do know windos media player can do this automatically
> because I did it once for a friend. It's about the only thing I was
> ever really impressed by in windos, LOL. I dragged and dropped 77 GB
> of music into wmp's burning screen (whatever they call it) and it
> immediately proposed a solution. I accepted, and it worked great.
> Wish we had something like that!
> (minus the DRM-encrusted garbage that makes up much of wmp, of course)
>
>> Yes, I check the dvds when i've burnt them that they are readable by
>> me and the computer itself.
>>
>
> That's rather peculiar.  I have the distinct impression that the best
> one can do with "split" is to end up with mere *fragments* of the
> original iso, which must then be reassembled to be useful.
> Has this changed? Or perhaps I misunderstood what your goal was?
> I though you were looking to play music files directly from the
> resulting dvds...
>
Yes, I'm listening to a dvd that I've already burnt using genisoimage
and split containing 1199 mp3s with no difficulty.

Split works by carving chunks out of the original file and renaming
them as xaa, xab, xac and so on till it reaches the end of the source
file. These can then be renamed as iso, or txt, or whatever the
original source was, and proceed as you want. I've found that its a
very useful little program.

Thanks
Sharon.
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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:52:05 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:

Hello Camaleón,

> That could be the common link for those who receive these messages 
> (Indulekha is also using an external gateway and also gets them).

Indeed, but I hadn't noticed that at the time I replied.

> But I still fail to see what can cause this which OTOH, only happens

No idea, TBH.  Does such a message arrive for each post you make to the
list, or just some of them?  You wrote in another message it happens
"automatically and randomly" which seems almost contradictory.
Automatically might imply it always happens, randomly indicates
otherwise.

> Okay... I will add a rule to Gmail and problem solved. Thanks all for 

Well, side-stepped, or buried, not really solved.   :-)

> your input.

YW.

Finally, FWIW, I didn't see anything from joe1 after my last post.  Of
course, it could have been caught by a server-side spamtrap.  Normally
though, emails of that type arrive and end up in the "unsure" pile that
bogofilter generates during mail import.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
Camaleón  wrote:
>
> But I still fail to see what can cause this which OTOH, only happens in 
> this mailing list (I follow -read/post- another Debian mailing lists via 
> Gmane but I don't get this kind of replies :-?).
>

Can you actually post via usenet, and if so, how?
I tried that a few times, but my posts never showed up, 
so I got the impression the mail2news thingie was strictly 
one way.

Also, not so long ago someone emailed me to complain that I 
was breaking threads. Am I? It looks just fine to me on usenet...

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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

2012-04-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 14:24 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Monday 30 April 2012 12:17:50 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > I don't waste time with the mouse, I need the time to set up much more
> > important things.
> >
> > IMO Linux is the best choice for my needs, but it cause a lot of
> > problems regarding to basics like the graphics and other hardware, e.g.
> > a simple old faithful mouse.
> >
> > - Ralf
> 
> You seem to be continuing to discount completely the possibility that the 
> mouse is faulty.  This is especially likely if it is old.
> 
> You really have no evidence at all, so far as I can see, for the FUD about 
> Debian that you were disseminating.
> 
> Lisi

The mouse does work with old Debian and other Linuxes. Please let us
stop talking about my mouse. I guess the OP will get his mouse working.

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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen  wrote:
>
> Hola!
>
>
> I am using debian wheezy (amd-64), with LXDE.
>
> My problem is that the computer clock is WRONG. Which program should I
> install so that I
> can fix time (definig tz, etc), with LXDE?
>

There are two things to consider -- hardware clock and timezone.
The hardware clock is usually set in your bios, timezone is done 
by copying the appropriate file from /usr/share/zoneinfo to 
/etc/localtime. If you have to dual-boot with windows you probably 
need to set your hw clock to localtime, otherwise it's best to set 
it to GMT.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 12:06:40 -0500, Indulekha wrote:

> I keep waiting for Ubuntu to get hit with malware, surprising it 
> hasn't happened yet (though it almost certainly will).

Do you have anything specific in mind or is this just a feeling you
have in your waters?


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Script request for files truncating with genisoimage

2012-04-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
i am using genisoimage on this folder ./home/boztu/Music/Irish Celtic
Music Collection Version 2  which contains 2976 mp3s, but it is truncating
the file names after the first word of their title. It appears to be doing this
at the first space that it encounters, so I'm hoping someone can help me by
suggesting a script that I can run that will remove all spaces in the file
names, before .mp3, to enable genisoimage to run properly. The iso it creates
is 18.9gbs in size and I then run split to make it into 4gb sized files to be
burnt to dvds.

Can you help me please? I realise that I'm asking a lot but script
writing is not something that I'm very good at and dont know where to
start.

Thank
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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 16:11:37 +, Camaleón wrote:

> Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain 
> messages of this mailing list?

I'm not. Not unless my anti-spam measures have evolved without my
knowing!

> I'm now getting this which pretends to be from myself so I guess the 
> other posts I received were also faked in the same way.

The envelope To cannot be faked, otherwise you would not have got the
mail. Seeing the Received: headers, or some of them, for this and other
mails might be useful. Reading from the bottom it will be the first
three or four which will be of interest.


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
30.04.2012 20:54, Jon Dowland kirjoitti:
> How would that prevent or otherwise help solve this problem?

It wouldn't, but it would give people a hint that message is faked if
it's missing signature and that person usually signs everything.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:04:38PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> By the way, this looks like a reason to GPG sign everything, like I am
> doing. There is sometimes arguing at gnupg-user and enigmail user about
> should messages to mailing lists be signed or not. I think that there
> was once such arguement here too in some of those multiple [OT] Posting
> styles threads.

How would that prevent or otherwise help solve this problem?


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:25:05 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:11:37 + (UTC) Camaleón 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Camaleón,
> 
>> Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain
>> messages of this mailing list?
> 
> Not had any, but I'm an infrequent writer here.  Could it be that,
> because you're posting via the newsgroup rather than direct to the ML,
> someone/something on that route is causing the problem, perhaps?

That could be the common link for those who receive these messages 
(Indulekha is also using an external gateway and also gets them).

But I still fail to see what can cause this which OTOH, only happens in 
this mailing list (I follow -read/post- another Debian mailing lists via 
Gmane but I don't get this kind of replies :-?).

Okay... I will add a rule to Gmail and problem solved. Thanks all for 
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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-04-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
Hi,

30.04.2012 20:39, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen kirjoitti:
> Hola!
> 
> 
> I am using debian wheezy (amd-64), with LXDE.
> 
> My problem is that the computer clock is WRONG. Which program should I
> install so that I
> can fix time (definig tz, etc), with LXDE?
> 
> Kjetil
> 
> 
> -- 
> "If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the
> human face - forever."
> 
> George Orwell (1984)
> 
> 
> 

Try running "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" as root. It should ask you which
TZ you are on. The package "tzdata" has priority "required", so I think
that you should have it installed already.

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Re: SOLVED Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
Sharon Kimble  wrote:
>>
> I installed datapacker from the repo but do not understand how to use
> it. It does not appear to be able to be directed to a specific
> directory where the mp3 files are without checking other directories.
> I've read http://jgoerzen.github.com/datapacker/datapacker.html but
> still fail to understand how to use it.
>

I don't have time to look into it right now, but a quick glance at 
"man datapacker" does show there are quite a few options, and so 
it may not not particularly simple to use for the first time.
Nowadays I usually just put things on USB sticks or external hard 
drives, so there's rarely a reason for me to write to optical media.
IDK why none of the GUI disk writing programs can do it automatically, 
though -- I do know windos media player can do this automatically 
because I did it once for a friend. It's about the only thing I was 
ever really impressed by in windos, LOL. I dragged and dropped 77 GB 
of music into wmp's burning screen (whatever they call it) and it 
immediately proposed a solution. I accepted, and it worked great. 
Wish we had something like that! 
(minus the DRM-encrusted garbage that makes up much of wmp, of course)

> Yes, I check the dvds when i've burnt them that they are readable by
> me and the computer itself.
>

That's rather peculiar.  I have the distinct impression that the best 
one can do with "split" is to end up with mere *fragments* of the 
original iso, which must then be reassembled to be useful. 
Has this changed? Or perhaps I misunderstood what your goal was?
I though you were looking to play music files directly from the 
resulting dvds...

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
30.04.2012 20:16, Camaleón kirjoitti:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:04:38 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> 
>> 30.04.2012 19:11, Camaleón kirjoitti:
> 
>>> Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain
>>> messages of this mailing list?
>>>
>>> I'm now getting this which pretends to be from myself so I guess the
>>> other posts I received were also faked in the same way.
> 
> (...)
>  
>>> These messages seem to be related with this site:
>>>
>>> http://portal.joegiglio.org
>>>
>>> Anyone knows what's this?
>>>
>>>
>> I am not receiving anything like that. Have you happened to post about
>> this issue earlier to this list or am I just imagining it?
> 
> Yes, I first (and wrongly) thought this could be a misconfigured auto-
> responder, a bad gateway configuration or something like that but now I 
> see this is something that is done automatically and randomly.
> 
>> By the way, this looks like a reason to GPG sign everything, like I am
>> doing. There is sometimes arguing at gnupg-user and enigmail user about
>> should messages to mailing lists be signed or not. I think that there
>> was once such arguement here too in some of those multiple [OT] Posting
>> styles threads.
> 
> I would be against forcing the usage of signed e-mails for mailing lists 
> which, by the way, can be also automated and used to send spam or "faked" 
> messages: you don't solve a problem like this with just GPG/PGP, you need 
> to apply additional counter-measures.
> 
> Greetings,
> 

You misunderstood me. I only said that it's a reason to use GPG, not
that it should be forced.
If GPG signatures would be forced, amount of posts on this list would
drop and there wouldn't be so many people on this list.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:11:37 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:

Hello Camaleón,

> Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain 
> messages of this mailing list?

Not had any, but I'm an infrequent writer here.  Could it be that,
because you're posting via the newsgroup rather than direct to the ML,
someone/something on that route is causing the problem, perhaps?

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain 
> messages of this mailing list?
>

I've received a few as well, and I'm not even subscribed (I read 
the list on usenet instead). It's probably due to someone using an 
infected machine (windos, android, or mac are all likely culprits). 
Sadly very common on mailing lists for years now...
I keep waiting for Ubuntu to get hit with malware, surprising it 
hasn't happened yet (though it almost certainly will).

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:04:38 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

> 30.04.2012 19:11, Camaleón kirjoitti:

>> Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain
>> messages of this mailing list?
>> 
>> I'm now getting this which pretends to be from myself so I guess the
>> other posts I received were also faked in the same way.

(...)
 
>> These messages seem to be related with this site:
>> 
>> http://portal.joegiglio.org
>> 
>> Anyone knows what's this?
>> 
>> 
> I am not receiving anything like that. Have you happened to post about
> this issue earlier to this list or am I just imagining it?

Yes, I first (and wrongly) thought this could be a misconfigured auto-
responder, a bad gateway configuration or something like that but now I 
see this is something that is done automatically and randomly.

> By the way, this looks like a reason to GPG sign everything, like I am
> doing. There is sometimes arguing at gnupg-user and enigmail user about
> should messages to mailing lists be signed or not. I think that there
> was once such arguement here too in some of those multiple [OT] Posting
> styles threads.

I would be against forcing the usage of signed e-mails for mailing lists 
which, by the way, can be also automated and used to send spam or "faked" 
messages: you don't solve a problem like this with just GPG/PGP, you need 
to apply additional counter-measures.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
30.04.2012 19:11, Camaleón kirjoitti:
> Hello,
> 
> Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain 
> messages of this mailing list?
> 
> I'm now getting this which pretends to be from myself so I guess the 
> other posts I received were also faked in the same way.
> 
> ***
> Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up
> 
> 1QA4xxx2a | Apr 30, 2012 02:54PM UTC
> 
> Thank you for submitting your request. We have received your request and 
> are working on responding to you as soon as possible. If you have any 
> additional information to add to this case, please reply to this email.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your patience and support.
> 
> 
> This message was sent to noela...@gmail.com in reference to Case #79920.
> 
> ***
> 
> These messages seem to be related with this site:
> 
> http://portal.joegiglio.org
> 
> Anyone knows what's this?
> 
> Greetings,
> 

I am not receiving anything like that. Have you happened to post about
this issue earlier to this list or am I just imagining it?

By the way, this looks like a reason to GPG sign everything, like I am
doing. There is sometimes arguing at gnupg-user and enigmail user about
should messages to mailing lists be signed or not. I think that there
was once such arguement here too in some of those multiple [OT] Posting
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Re: SOLVED Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.

2012-04-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
On 30/04/2012, Indulekha  wrote:
> Sharon Kimble  wrote:
>> On 29/04/2012, Camaleón  wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:13:37 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>>>
 i have just created an iso of some of my music collection so that i can
 play them off the DVD, delete them off the hard drive and free up more
 space for new music, that’s the plan anyhow.

 The command i used was . genisoimage -o ~/irishceltic.iso
 /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\ Version\ 2/
 
 and it created irishceltic.iso which is 18.4 gbs big.

 I now want to burn this to DVD's but brassero wont do multiple DVD from
 one source, and so far, i havne't been able to do it from k3b.

 How do I do it in either brassero or k3b please? Or can it be done from
 the command line please?
>>>
>>> I don't know about the burning program features but I bet you can use
>>> "split" command (to make chunks of data that fit in one DVD) and
>>> "cat" (if you want to restore the full image afterwards) for the task.
>>>
>>> Greeting
>>>
>> Split was indeed the answer, using it as ... split -b 4000m
>> /home/boztu/irishceltic.iso .. and it splits the 18.9 gb file into
>> 3.9 gb files which just need to be renamed as xaa.iso, or
>> xab.iso/xac.iso, and then the  image is burnt using k3b.
>>
>
> As others have pointed out, your issue is not likely solved by using
> split to create pieces of the original iso -- you need complete iso
> images sized to fit your media, otherwise you have to copy the contents
> of all the disks to your hard drive and reassemble the original image
> before any of it becomes usable.
>
> I was just reading somewhere about a package called datapacker, which
> might do the trick. I've never tested it though. If you try it, please
> let us know if it worked for you. And please confirm by using the disks
> you burned first. Burning is really only part of the solution. :)
> http://software.complete.org/datapacker
>
I installed datapacker from the repo but do not understand how to use
it. It does not appear to be able to be directed to a specific
directory where the mp3 files are without checking other directories.
I've read http://jgoerzen.github.com/datapacker/datapacker.html but
still fail to understand how to use it.

Yes, I check the dvds when i've burnt them that they are readable by
me and the computer itself.

Thanks
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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:13:10 -0500, hvw59601 wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:

 Mmm, this is done from "/etc/default/shorewall" by editing the
 "startup" variable, that you have to set to "1" as it says.


>>> Impresive.
>> 
>> What's what you find "impressive"?
>> 
>> 
> That you can provide such detail and yet not use the tool yourself.

For long time Debian users the impressive is not looking into there in 
first place ;-). And I have to say this is something I used to forget 
once I migrated to Debian: my fingers always lead me to "/etc/sysconfig/
*" instead (too much time using openSUSE).

Anyway, as I said in an recent post, this is something documented, no 
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Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

2012-04-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
On 30/04/2012, keith  wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:11 +0100
> Sharon Kimble  wrote:
>
>> I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd
>> for backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting
>> disc I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of
>> its title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
>> obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.
>>
>> The command to genisoimage is . genisoimage -o
>> ~/irishceltic.iso /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\
>> Version\ 2/ .. which creates the file irishceltic.iso .
>>
>
> Try it with:-
>
> genisoimage -o irishceltic.iso -R -J -l -v -V "Irish Celtic" -hide-rr-moved
> .
>
>
When I run the above command this is the result  File
./irishceltic.iso is larger than 4GiB-1.
-allow-limited-size was not specified. There is no way do represent
this file size. Aborting.

irishceltic.iso is 18.9gb in size

Thanks
Sharon.
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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:43:53 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Du, 29 apr 12, 18:53:11, Charles Kroeger wrote:
>> 
>> In /doc/shorewall-core there's nothing about this In
>> /doc/shorewall-doc/ there are subfolders of HTML and HTML/images and
>> manpages in great abundance but no README. In /usr/share/shorewall
>> there are subfolders of Shorewall and config files but even there alas
>> no README or mention of the etc/default/shorewall file. I might add
>> that I also use shorewall-init and the /doc/shorewall-init of which
>> resides no mention of this necessary file, /etc/default/shorewall.
> 
> /etc/default/ is Debian specific most of the times, which is why
> it won't be mentioned in upstream documentation.

(...)

But it is (at least in their online docs):

http://www.shorewall.net/Install.htm#Debian

***
Install the .deb

(...)

Once you have completed configuring Shorewall, you can enable startup at 
boot time by setting startup=1 in /etc/default/shorewall.
***

In fact, being me a "book worm" that tends to read all the documentation 
in first place, I got this from there ;-)

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Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

2012-04-30 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, Chris.

You worte:

> > I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd
> > for backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting
> > disc I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of
> > its title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
> > obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.
 
> It probably doesn't like spaces in filenames.
> I'd convert all the files to names without spaces. 
> I'd also remove any single or double quotes in them.
 
> I, myself, would be interested in a better way of doing this.

For this time I have no idea which exactly options for the .iso making
program parameters but I can assure You that it is possible - I did
that many times years ago (I did it w/ k3b) and there was no need to
change any how dir./file -names - all looked well.

Just play w/ diver options, using just single file - to make Your tests
faster.


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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

2012-04-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to the OS
> > they have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those should work.
> > But with 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit when you use MBR
> > partitioning.
> > 
> > 3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and software
> > (logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new enough.
> > 
> > On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage).
> 
> Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your post)
> which command requires the additional options: -cu. Which manpage?

fdisk. Sorry if I didn´t mention it anywhere in my post.

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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

2012-04-30 Thread hvw59601

Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:13:36 -0500, hvw59601 wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:48:58 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:


After the recent Shorewall upgrade that replaced the previous
configuration files, Shorewall now only starts 'manually' at the
command line: e.g. #shorewall start.

I can't find where this problem can be corrected in the
etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf

What changed in the upgrade that now prevents Shorewall from starting
itself during the boot-up?

Mmm, this is done from "/etc/default/shorewall" by editing the
"startup" variable, that you have to set to "1" as it says.


Impresive. 


What's what you find "impressive"?



That you can provide such detail and yet not use the tool yourself.

Hugo



Do you run shorewall?


Not at all.




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[OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com"

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
Hello,

Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain 
messages of this mailing list?

I'm now getting this which pretends to be from myself so I guess the 
other posts I received were also faked in the same way.

***
Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

1QA4xxx2a | Apr 30, 2012 02:54PM UTC

Thank you for submitting your request. We have received your request and 
are working on responding to you as soon as possible. If you have any 
additional information to add to this case, please reply to this email.

Thanks in advance for your patience and support.


This message was sent to noela...@gmail.com in reference to Case #79920.

***

These messages seem to be related with this site:

http://portal.joegiglio.org

Anyone knows what's this?

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Re: SOLVED Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.

2012-04-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 03:44:54PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> For archiving purposes (like yours) that's the fastest and easiest way to 
> put big ISO files into DVDs. I maybe also add to the archive a md5sum 
> file to check the ISO integrity after restoring ;-)

Aside from this case (misunderstanding when creating the ISO image), how
often else will people end up in a situation where they need to split ISO
files? Backing up dual-layer DVD images to single layer DVDs? Or Blu-Ray
images?  It seems like a very niche problem.  With data images (as oppose
to DVD Video images or others where the specific filesystem layout can be
important), repacking is almost always going to be a wiser choice,
especially if you choose an archive format that handles splitting natively
(e.g. zip, or non-free rar) and in-archive checksumming (again zip, rar…)

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Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

2012-04-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 03:48:59PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> There's something about geniso and long filenames here:
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/genisoimage
> 
> Check if that's enough for you.

That page offers nothing more than a subset of the manpage, and nothing more
than the other posts to this thread have already covered.


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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

2012-04-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 02:53:46PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> I haven't had experienced any of that issues in any of my systems so I still
> find ReaiserFS the most suitable filesystem for me.

As long as you don't have any VM images using reiserfs v3 on top of a reiserfs
3 filesystem, you're probably OK.

> OTOH, I don't know about the current status of ReiserFS v4, I have not heard
> any news since many years :-?

It's essentially dead, unfortunately.  Once the main author was convicted of
murder, another maintainer took over, but nobody is interested enough to keep
it maintained as part of the main kernel.


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Re: SOLVED Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:17:28 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:

> On 29/04/2012, Camaleón  wrote:

>> I don't know about the burning program features but I bet you can use
>> "split" command (to make chunks of data that fit in one DVD) and "cat"
>> (if you want to restore the full image afterwards) for the task.
>>
> Split was indeed the answer, using it as ... split -b 4000m
> /home/boztu/irishceltic.iso .. and it splits the 18.9 gb file into
> 3.9 gb files which just need to be renamed as xaa.iso, or
> xab.iso/xac.iso, and then the  image is burnt using k3b.
> 
> Thanks to all

You're welcome.

For archiving purposes (like yours) that's the fastest and easiest way to 
put big ISO files into DVDs. I maybe also add to the archive a md5sum 
file to check the ISO integrity after restoring ;-)

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Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:11 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:

> I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd for
> backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting disc
> I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of its
> title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
> obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.
> 
> The command to genisoimage is . genisoimage -o ~/irishceltic.iso
> /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\ Version\ 2/
> .. which creates the file irishceltic.iso .
> 
> I cant see anything in man genisoimage or its help file of any use for
> this problem, and would welcome any help that people can give.

There's something about geniso and long filenames here:

http://wiki.debian.org/genisoimage

Check if that's enough for you.

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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:25:47AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> Well, it didn't take long to find the answer on the internet.  Get your
> firewall set up and then:
> 
> iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules
> 
> I tested it and it works!

What version of the package? It would appear the file should be rules.v4 or
rules.v6 (for ipv4 and ipv6 respectively), according to the README[1], at least
for later releases.

[1] 
http://robin.powdarrmonkey.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=iptables-persistent;a=blob;f=debian/README;h=fc62b23ebf2b2720f9e67821cb7d2bcf012e132e;hb=HEAD


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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:14:36AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> I have tried to use /etc/network/if-pre-up.d on my laptop (which uses
> NetworkManager) and it does not load my iptables rules.  But if I call
> my script manually, it will load properly.  Is NetworkManager
> incompatible with /etc/network/if-pre-up.d?

Yes. If you are using NetworkManager then ifupdown (which uses if-pre-up.d)
is not handling your network connections.

> In the meantime, I'm trying out iptables-persistent.  I have it installed 
> now, 
> but there is no manpage and nothing useful in /usr/share/doc.  Time to
> do some research...

Good luck!


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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:58:35 +0900, Han Soo Chang wrote:

> I recently installed debian squeeze, but I can't see youtube videos on
> iceweasel.
> 
> $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
> 
> Above command ends with a following error message. (My sources.list has
> non-free included)
> 
> ERROR: wget failed to download
> http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
> More information might be available at:
>   http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
> 
> I consulted the webpage, and googled, but could not get useful
> information.
> 
> I appreciate any help.

You can get the ".so" flash plugin directly from Adobe's site:

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/

You select your linux arch (32 or 64 bits) and then choose the 
"*.tar.gz", extract the "*.so" library into the Iceweasel plugins 
directory and you're done.

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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-04-30 Thread Curt
On 2012-04-25, Matthias Guentert  wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> Lately I changed from Fedora to Debian squeeze on amd64. A few days
> later my system started to freeze randomly. I first noticed this
> behaviour while I was copying files from my system disk to my USB
> disk, but don't think this is the culprit. After having searched high
> and low on my system I am running out of ideas. Please find bellow the
> details of my researches.

Well, I've been bitten a few times by the logical fallacy referred to by
the Latin phrase _post hoc ergo propter hoc_, so I'm dubious concerning
the usb trail, although I'm as ignorant as I am dubious.

For every system freeze I have ever experienced, the guilty party was my
graphics card/driver combination, notably, my nvidia card with the
closed-source driver.  As it appears you have an nvidia video card, you may
wish to explore this possibility, if you haven't already.


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Re: Apache2 Not starting on reboot

2012-04-30 Thread John W. Foster
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 09:18 -0500, John W. Foster wrote: 
> On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 07:11 -0500, John W. Foster wrote: 
> > My last upgrade of Debian stable on my production server produced an
> > error that is causing issues. Apache2 is not automatically restarting as
> > it should when the system is rebooted. This is a nightly occurrence and
> > is required for hardware testing reasons. Anyone have any ideas as to
> > what might be happening? I have checked the error log & see nothing that
> > looks suspect. Webmin shows that the Apache server is setup to start on
> > bootup. It seems to run fine after I manually restart the server after
> > the reboot.
> > thanks!
> > frosty
> 
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions. I tried them all & none worked. Sorry...
> However I did some research outside this list & arrived at a solution
> that was posted by another user on another list. I'm putting it up here
> just so it will appear in our archives.
> 
> 
> > Thanks to investigation done by Faheem Mitha and discussion on the
> > comments below, a full answer to this question has worked out.
> > 
> > Read Faheem's answer for full details
> > http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12597/missing-init-d-apache2-file/12748#12748
> > 
> > For humor value, here are the cliff notes:
> > 
> > The short version is that init scripts are considered conf files, and
> > apt-get is too polite to touch conf files that have been user-modified
> > in any way, even to restore deleted on reinstall after a uninstall.
> > Before you say "duh of course", check out the gymnastics you have to
> > do. I quote:
> > 
> > After asking the dpkg list (and being told off for it) +
> > further fiddling, the following works. Be careful with this.
> > It will replace all your modified config files with the
> > version from the package. 
> > 
> > apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confnew" -o
> > Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask" install --reinstall
> > apache2.2-common
> > 
> > I don't know why you needed me to tell you this. It's the
> > first thing you should have thought of. :-) – Faheem Mitha
> > 
> 
> 

Only problem is: now none of my websites work. Only the "localhost"
basic is working. I will get it squared away but beware of the solution
above.
Thanks!
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Re: [Solved] Re: Problem with resolution on Radeon HD 7450 card (Squeeze)

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:01:46 +0900, Han Soo Chang wrote:

> Thank you guys!
> 
> It seems that the problem is now solved.

Hey, that sounds good! :-)

> I purged my dkms package, and re-installed dkms from squeeze backports I
> purged fglrx-driver, fglrx-control packages, and re-installed them from
> squeeze-backports.
> Then, the fglrx.ko was successfully generated. I rebooted the system,
> and the window is working fine. Maybe I messed up the installation
> procedure somehow. I probably needed to install dkms from the
> squeeze-backports before installing fglrx-driver.
> 
> I put below my current xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for reference.
> I am not sure if I needed the tweak on chipID on my xorg.conf. I will
> experimet later.
> 
> Again, thank you very much folks!  I apprecieate your helps very much.

(...)

I just have read your last post where you said the kernel module was 
indeed not present in your system. Wow... that sounded like a corner 
situation (that usually happens when you compile the fglrx driver by 
yourself but not when using precompiled packages) but glad you could 
finally solved it.

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Re: SOLVED Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
Sharon Kimble  wrote:
> On 29/04/2012, Camaleón  wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:13:37 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>>
>>> i have just created an iso of some of my music collection so that i can
>>> play them off the DVD, delete them off the hard drive and free up more
>>> space for new music, that’s the plan anyhow.
>>>
>>> The command i used was . genisoimage -o ~/irishceltic.iso
>>> /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\ Version\ 2/ 
>>> and it created irishceltic.iso which is 18.4 gbs big.
>>>
>>> I now want to burn this to DVD's but brassero wont do multiple DVD from
>>> one source, and so far, i havne't been able to do it from k3b.
>>>
>>> How do I do it in either brassero or k3b please? Or can it be done from
>>> the command line please?
>>
>> I don't know about the burning program features but I bet you can use
>> "split" command (to make chunks of data that fit in one DVD) and
>> "cat" (if you want to restore the full image afterwards) for the task.
>>
>> Greeting
>>
> Split was indeed the answer, using it as ... split -b 4000m
> /home/boztu/irishceltic.iso .. and it splits the 18.9 gb file into
> 3.9 gb files which just need to be renamed as xaa.iso, or
> xab.iso/xac.iso, and then the  image is burnt using k3b.
>

As others have pointed out, your issue is not likely solved by using 
split to create pieces of the original iso -- you need complete iso 
images sized to fit your media, otherwise you have to copy the contents 
of all the disks to your hard drive and reassemble the original image 
before any of it becomes usable.

I was just reading somewhere about a package called datapacker, which 
might do the trick. I've never tested it though. If you try it, please 
let us know if it worked for you. And please confirm by using the disks 
you burned first. Burning is really only part of the solution. :)  
http://software.complete.org/datapacker

HTH!
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Re: Apache2 Not starting on reboot

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:18:42 -0500, John W. Foster wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions. I tried them all & none worked. Sorry...
> However I did some research outside this list & arrived at a solution
> that was posted by another user on another list. I'm putting it up here
> just so it will appear in our archives.
> 
> 
>> Thanks to investigation done by Faheem Mitha and discussion on the
>> comments below, a full answer to this question has worked out.
>> 
>> Read Faheem's answer for full details
>> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12597/missing-init-d-apache2-file/12748#12748

(...)

Mmm... so you mean the init script for apache2 was missed in your case 
and thus making apache not to boot?

If that was the problem, I wonder if by reinjecting the service with 
"insserv apache2" could have also made the job :-?

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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-30 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:14:36AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 01:15:52PM -0400, Tom H wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Pascal Hambourg  
> > wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > Tom H a écrit :
> > >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Pascal Hambourg 
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>> Tom H a écrit :
> >  It's best to run an iptables script from "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/".
> > >>> Only for the rules which are related to a specific interface. Ruleset
> > >>> initialization should not be done from there.
> > >>
> > >> Why not?
> > >
> I have tried to use /etc/network/if-pre-up.d on my laptop (which uses
> NetworkManager) and it does not load my iptables rules.  But if I call
> my script manually, it will load properly.  Is NetworkManager
> incompatible with /etc/network/if-pre-up.d?
> 
> In the meantime, I'm trying out iptables-persistent.  I have it installed 
> now, 
> but there is no manpage and nothing useful in /usr/share/doc.  Time to
> do some research...
> 
Well, it didn't take long to find the answer on the internet.  Get your
firewall set up and then:

iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules

I tested it and it works!

-Rob


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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:13:36 -0500, hvw59601 wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:48:58 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
>> 
>>> After the recent Shorewall upgrade that replaced the previous
>>> configuration files, Shorewall now only starts 'manually' at the
>>> command line: e.g. #shorewall start.
>>>
>>> I can't find where this problem can be corrected in the
>>> etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf
>>>
>>> What changed in the upgrade that now prevents Shorewall from starting
>>> itself during the boot-up?
>> 
>> Mmm, this is done from "/etc/default/shorewall" by editing the
>> "startup" variable, that you have to set to "1" as it says.
>> 
>> 
> Impresive. 

What's what you find "impressive"?

> Do you run shorewall?

Not at all.

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Re: Bug in logwatch? (not all archives are checked and --logdir is partially ignored).

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:12:43 +0200, Maarten Derickx wrote:

> 2012/4/29 Maarten Derickx 
> 
> 
>> A closer inspection of the logfiles I cared about revealed that there
>> where also related errors. I made a patch with all the changes and
>> posted it at http://pastebin.com/6vALKDYN . What is the procedure for
>> getting these fixes in debian?
>>
>>
>>
> I filed the bugs and they have numbers: #670877 and #670880
> respectively.

I was going to suggest exactly that... Well done! :-)

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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-30 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 01:15:52PM -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Pascal Hambourg  
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Tom H a écrit :
> >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Pascal Hambourg  
> >> wrote:
> >>> Tom H a écrit :
>  It's best to run an iptables script from "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/".
> >>> Only for the rules which are related to a specific interface. Ruleset
> >>> initialization should not be done from there.
> >>
> >> Why not?
> >
I have tried to use /etc/network/if-pre-up.d on my laptop (which uses
NetworkManager) and it does not load my iptables rules.  But if I call
my script manually, it will load properly.  Is NetworkManager
incompatible with /etc/network/if-pre-up.d?

In the meantime, I'm trying out iptables-persistent.  I have it installed now, 
but there is no manpage and nothing useful in /usr/share/doc.  Time to
do some research...

-Rob


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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:21:52 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 24. April 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
>> > While I wait for the new 2 TB HDD, I am copying data across my home
>> > LAN to my laptop which has a 120 GB HDD. I was using the WiFi network
>> > provided by the computer consultants downstairs: it gave me 1.2 MB/s
>> > transfer rate. When I succeeded in getting the Ethernet working, I
>> > got 9 MB/s. I've now checked the ethernet NICs at both ends and they
>> > are both Gigabit devices. So I've ordered a 5m Cat5e ethernet cable
>> > from Amazon which should give me 120 MB/s transfer rate. That would
>> > certainly make it convenient for security backups.
>> 
>> Yes, and that's why my primary backup is directly attached to one of
>> the  SATA ports of the motherboard: speed between SATA buses is good
>> enough when using a powerful system. The average size of my /home
>> backup is now at ~10 GiB and I always do full (not incremental nor
>> differential) backups becasue 10 GiB is still a manageable size
>> (although for servers and workstations I do differential backups).
> 
> I use esata disks for my laptop backups. Together with
> Cardbus-/Expresscard esata controllers, even for the ThinkPad T520 cause
> its Intel only version didn´t sport an esata connector.
> 
> SATA flies. A bus where practically possible speeds come quite close to
> the theoretic maximum. Unlike USB 2 and currently it seems also USB 3.

That's another option but again, you need to rely on the ExpressCard 
capabilities (v1.2 or v2.0?) and its performance that can slim the whole 
throughout.

> Initial rsync based backup of 300 GB Intel SSD 320 to new 2 TB Hitachi
> harddisk has been 1 hour. For about 200 GiB of data, at least one
> million inodes, including a virtual server on the internet and the
> Debian on the USB-Stick in my ASUS WL-500g Premium DSL router.
> 
> Current times are usually less than 10 minutes for differential backups.

Well, yes, differential backups shorten the backup process time (though 
incremental copies are even faster).

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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

2012-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:16:58 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 24. April 2012 schrieb Camaleón:

(...)
 
>> As an aside note, I've been using ReiserFS in all of my linux boxes (in
>> both, servers and workstations) for the "/" partition and I never had
>> to face the long waits at booting till the fsck ends. I know that
>> ReiserFS (v3) is not actively developed (just security patches) and
>> performs better for small files but I'm considering in moving ext3 to
>> XFS or another mature file system (JFS) because the annoying and
>> absurdly long time fsck takes.
> 
> Reiserfs has some more drawbacks:
> 
> - long mount times on large volumes
> 
> - doesn´t distinguish between different filesystems on fsck like
>   - loopback file with reiserfs on reiserfs 
>   - vm image file with reiserfs on reiserfs
> 
> Especially the latter is a no-go for me, cause an fsck would mix up the
> several reiserfs filesstems.

I haven't had experienced any of that issues in any of my systems so I 
still find ReaiserFS the most suitable filesystem for me.

The only big drawback I see for ReiserFS v3 is that it does not receive 
more enhancements nor features just patches, which can leave your 
installation in a very delicated state if something goes wrong. OTOH, I 
don't know about the current status of ReiserFS v4, I have not heard any 
news since many years :-?

> XFS might also have long file check times.

I still have not tried this so I can't really tell but what I've heard on 
XFS is not comparable to ext3, I mean, in regards with the time it takes 
to perform a filesystem check.

> fsck times depend more on the number of inodes than on the size of the
> filesystem. They also depend on the version of the check tool.
> 
> XFS develovers tuned xfs_repair heavily regarding speed and memory
> usage. And I seem to recall some optimizations for Ext4 as well, like
> unitialized block groups (bguninit or something lile that in tunefs -l).
> 
> My Ext4 fsck times on large volumes are quite good. A few minutes
> usually. Even on the backup drive which holds at least 1 million inodes
> in one logical volume.

My experience with ext3 and fsck times also varies depending of the 
volume file size: my 500 GiB hard disk can delay up to 5 min. but the 
server's 1.2 TiB volume do take longer...

>> > Its very convenient to have a large sack to toss the stuff, but it
>> > has its own set of drawbacks :)
>> 
>> Yes, and I'm against partitioning too much but considering the big
>> sizes of the actual hard disks it has become a must, also to minimize a
>> filesystem corruption in a partition that can affect the whole data.
> 
> I use LVM quite a lot, but I am a bit annoyed by having to vgchange -ay
> after inserting and vgchange -an before removal. I like to see a
> removable flag for LVs that lessens the locking restrictions that are
> important in certain enterprise setups, so that I can have an LVM be
> scanned automatically and do not need to run vgchange.

I wish hard disk partitioning becomes more handly and flexible and it 
gets implemented on the filesystem "natively" without having to deal with 
external tools, such as LVM. 

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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-04-30 Thread Johan Grönqvist

2012-04-30 07:46, Han Soo Chang skrev:

If you try fetching it with wget:
"wget
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc";
does it produce an error message?


This is the message I get.
I am inside a corporate LAN with a proxy server whose address is ns14:8080.


Cannot write to `fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc' (Permission denied).



As Curt wrote, it seems that you can not write the output file.

To verify that it is not network related:

"wget 
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc"; 
tries tio fetch and write to file, which does not work, as you tried before.


"wget 
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc 
-O -" will try to fetch the file and print it to standard output, so 
that you see it on screen. I expect that to work without problems.


Is this a special setup with special write permissions?

My interpretation is that the installation scripts fails to write a file 
that it wants to save to disc for later use.


Regards

Johan


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