Nettoyage du spam: avril 2012 (et mars!)

2012-05-01 Thread Christian PERRIER
Comme nous sommes en mai 2012, il est désormais possible de traiter
les archives du mois d'avril 2012 des listes francophones.

N'oubliez bien sûr pas d'ajouter votre nom à la liste des relecteurs
pour que nous sachions où nous en sommes.

Détails du processus de nettoyage du spam sur:
[0] http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/FrenchSpamClean

NOTE: il n'y a pas eu assez de relectures pour le mois de mars (3
seulement). Il est nécessaire qu'il y en ait au grand minimum 2 de plus.




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Re: Ma libc6 à mal !

2012-05-01 Thread pmenier

Le 30/04/2012 21:11, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

Et je vois que c'est pareil pour Debian.

Bonjour

Oui sauf que chez debian ça arrive sur de la testing.
Patrick


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Debian unstable ce matin

2012-05-01 Thread valentin

Bonjour la liste,

J'ai mis à jour un peu rapidement ma Debian ce matin, et notamment 
xserver-xorg-[core|common] est passé de 1.11.4-1 à 1.12.1-1, mais aussi 
et surtout tout les server-xorg-[input|video] ont été supprimé. Je l'ai 
vu un peu tard.


Je suppose que c'est relatif à http://blog.mraw.org/2012/05/01/DXN-11/

Y a t-il un moyen relativement simple de revenir à la version d'avant 
pour retrouver mon serveur X aujourd'hui ? Je n'ai jamais vraiment 
manipulé apt-get/dpkg/aptitude dans un cas de figure comme cela et je ne 
m'en sors pas.


Merci d'avance !

Valentin

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Re: [Wheezy] Firestarter 1.0.3

2012-05-01 Thread JB
Le samedi 28 avril 2012 à 09:34 +0200, JB a écrit :
 Le vendredi 27 avril 2012 à 18:20 +0200, JB a écrit :
  Bonsoir,
  Firestarter 1.0.3,
  pour cette version, le choix Connexions actives n'affichent plus les
  valeurs
  bonne soirée
  A+
  JB1
  
  
 la version est 1.0.3.10
 A+
 JB1
 
 
bonjour,
pour debian 32 bits cela fonctionne, je viens de le mettre en oeuvre!
bonne journée
A+
JB1


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Re: Debian unstable ce matin

2012-05-01 Thread Valentin Surrel
Le mardi 01 mai 2012 à 09:55 +0200, valen...@surrel.org a écrit :
 Bonjour la liste,
 

J'ai mis ça :

Package: xserver-xorg*
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 991

et réinstallé mon serveur X. Ca a marché, mais je sais pas si c'est la
manière la plus propre... 

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Re: [Wheezy] Firestarter 1.0.3

2012-05-01 Thread JB
Le mardi 01 mai 2012 à 10:27 +0200, JB a écrit :
 Le samedi 28 avril 2012 à 09:34 +0200, JB a écrit :
  Le vendredi 27 avril 2012 à 18:20 +0200, JB a écrit :
   Bonsoir,
   Firestarter 1.0.3,
   pour cette version, le choix Connexions actives n'affichent plus les
   valeurs
   bonne soirée
   A+
   JB1
   
   
  la version est 1.0.3.10
  A+
  JB1
  
  
 bonjour,
 pour debian 32 bits cela fonctionne, je viens de le mettre en oeuvre!
 bonne journée
 A+
 JB1
 
 
rebonjour,
quelqu'un peut-il m'expliquer SVP:
open(/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/charset.alias, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
write(2, \n(firestarter:20284): Gtk-WARNIN..., 64

ceci peut-il être la cause de mes problèmes
A+
JB1

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Re: Ma libc6 à mal !

2012-05-01 Thread Jérôme
Le mardi 01 mai 2012 à 00:51 +0200, Bzzz a écrit :
 C'est à cause de trucs comme ça que j'ai laissé tomber testing pour
 unstable; au moins quand ça crash on sait (à peu près) pourquoi,
 et ce type de PB reste extrêmement rare (et en tout cas peut
 être évité juste avec listbugs). 

C'est pas faux, testing c'est pas plus proche de stable mais en cours
d'intégration pour stable, grosse nuance qui ne met pas à l'abris de
gros gag, ni de problèmes durables.

Avec Sid on a beaucoup plus de mises à jour, les problèmes possibles
sont plus fréquents mais résolus rapidement.

L'un ou l'autre est un choix, mais dans les 2 cas : Ce n'est pas une
stable. Il faut être très prudent sur les mises à jour et savoir ce
qu'on fait.

Pour les problèmes de chemins, il me semble qu'il y a déjà eu quelques
petits bugs avec la nouvelle arborescence multiarch je ne sais pas si
ça a un rapport.


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Re: Debian unstable ce matin

2012-05-01 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le mardi 1 mai 2012 à 10:28:14, Valentin Surrel a écrit :
 Le mardi 01 mai 2012 à 09:55 +0200, valen...@surrel.org a 
écrit :
  Bonjour la liste,

’jour,

 J'ai mis ça :
 
 Package: xserver-xorg*
 Pin: release a=testing
 Pin-Priority: 991
 
 et réinstallé mon serveur X. Ca a marché, mais je sais pas si
 c'est la manière la plus propre...

1. C’est simple, ça marche, c’est réversible, donc c’est 
« propre ». (Faut pas oublier de l’enlever après ;o)

2. Les autres solutions (man aptitude) :

aptitude install paquet/testing

mais c’est plus chiant quand il y a déjà des versions installées 
et qu’il y a de nombreuses dépendances parce qu’il faut indiquer 
plusieurs paquets.

  Tu peux aussi utiliser l’interfaces curses d’aptitude : dans 
la page de chaque paquet (« entrée » sur un paquet), en bas, tu 
as la liste des versions, il suffit de sélectionner celle que tu 
veux. Même problème que précédemment : les dépendances ne 
suivent pas automatiquement et il faut visiter tous les paquets…

3. Donc, c’était la meilleure solution. D’autant plus que tu 
l’as trouvée tout seul, donc tu pourras la retrouver.

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linux 3.2.0.2 i686 problème d'installation

2012-05-01 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Bonjour,
Sur une machine en testing  à jour ou la linux.3.0.-686-pae est en 
fonctionnement, j'essaye d'installer la version de linux.3.2.0.2-686-pae .
l'installation  proprement dite se passe correctement sauf qu'au reboot et 
essai de  de ce nouveau noyau je reste bloqué.
J'ai ces messages :
Filesystem types '' and '/lib/init/rw' are not supported . Skipping mount(*)
touch : cannot touch '/lib/init/rw/.ramfs' :Read -only file-system(*)
mkdir : cannot create directory '/lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d/' :File 
exists(*)
Filesystem types '' and '/proc' are not supported . Skipping mount(*)
Filesystem types '' and '/sys' are not supported . Skipping mount(*)
Filesystem types '' and '/var/lock' are not supported . Skipping mount(*)
Filesystem types 'usbdevfs' and '/proc/bus/usb' are not supported . Skipping 
mount(*)
udev requires a mounted sysfs not started failed! failed!
Setting preliminary keymap ...done
Setting parameter of disc :(none)
/dev/hda : No such file or directory
/dev/hdb : No such file or directory
/dev/hdc : No such file or directory
...
Usage :mountkernfs [start|stop]
Error argument 'reload' not supported
Cleaning up ifupdown
Loading kernel module snd-cmipci
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et là je reste bloquer
Je ne comprends pas du tout ces messages il ne correspond pas à mon /etc/fstab
que je joins.
/dev/hda , hdb,hdc ne sont pas dans ce fichier pourquoi  apparaissent t'ils ?
sysfs existe dans fstab pourquoi n'est t'il pas monté ?
que signifie le messages Filesystem types  and ' xxx' not supported or dans 
fstab c'est bien indiqué.
les messages avec (*)  sont identiques en 3.0 et 3.2 la différence c'est que 
3.0 j'arrive à fonctionner.
Je suppose que mon problème vient du fait que cette machine a un long passé 
Debian : premier Kernel 2.2.
Merci pour m'avoir lu, toute suggestion est la bienvenue, autre que si cela 
fonctionne en 3.0 reste en 3.0 !!!
Merci.
Philippe
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
sysfs   /syssysfs   rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev  0   0
# /dev/sda2 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
UUID=49214c0f-99a5-482e-aa81-4051a9f47737 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
# /dev/sda1 none swap sw 0 0
UUID=37547ea4-a1ed-40ab-9c30-0cbb5db04102 none swap sw 0 0
# /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs-3g  defaults 0 0
UUID=56744A84744A6739 /mnt/hda1 ntfs-3g  defaults 0 0
# /dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5 vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=0,umask=0 0 0
UUID=8726-1192 /mnt/hda5 vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=0,umask=0 0 0
# /dev/hdb3 /mnt/hdb3 ext3 defaults 0 0
UUID=79edefcb-f1ab-4e40-b081-8bd0e07a2fe2 /mnt/hdb3 ext3 defaults 0 0
# /dev/hda6 /home/pmn/chargement ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
UUID=ece3e77a-781c-469b-97f0-b825abf5b595 /home/pmn/chargement ext3 
rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
# /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=0,umask=0 0 0
# /dev/hdc /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto,noatime,unhide,umask=0 0 0
# tmpfs/dev/shm defaults 0 0
/dev/floppy /floppy msdos,vfat,ext2 rw,user,noauto,sync,uid=0,umask=0 0 0
# sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
# devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
# usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
# none /dev/bus/usb usbfs devgid=121,devmode=0666 0 0


Re: [OT] Opciones de selección de texto

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:35:33 +0200, kaptan escribió:

 no sé si alguién sabrá de alguna herramienta que permita seleccionar
 texto que esté entre unas determinadas palabras (me explico: por ej en
 un html, que seleccione todo los textos que estén entre las etiquetas
 body/body), o una herramienta de selección en general que tenga
 varias opciones. Ahora mismo no me viene nada a la mente. Gracias de
 antemano.

Además de seleccionar el texto ¿qué quieres hacer con él (eliminarlo, 
cambiarlo, almacenarlo en una variable, pasarlo a otro documento...)?

La herramienta por excelencia para la manipulación de textos en línea de 
comandos es sed pero dependiendo del pedazo de texto que contengan las 
etiquetas pues quizá te convendría mirar algún script premontado en Perl 
o PHP.

Saludos,

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[SOLUCIONADO] [OT] Opciones de selección de texto

2012-05-01 Thread kaptan
Gracias a todos, ya encontré una manera de hacerlo que de momento me 
sirve (con sed), además de dar con los famosos Awk y sed one-liners que 
no conocía y que son fantásticos.


Saludos!


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Re: OT fläktfritt

2012-05-01 Thread Kaj Ailomaa

On 04/29/2012 03:59 PM, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote:

Hej!

Jag ställer frågan här eftersom svaren brukar vara bra, och jag
troligen kommer att köra Debian på burken.

För ungefär ett halvår sedan köpte jag ett Asus E35M1-I deluxe med en
tvåkärnig lågeffekt AMD-processor. Med 4G RAM funkar den skapligt, med
8G närmar den sig ett skämt. Min gamla server med VIA 1,3GHz är
marginellt långsammare.

Fläktfritt är det iallafall. Tyst och fint med WD Green 2TB drivar.

Om jag vill ha något som sprattlar lite bättre utan att dra en massa
ström (skapa en massa värme), vad föreslår damer och herrar på listan?

/Janne




Viktigast är ett tyst aggregat. En del påstås vara tysta och så är dem 
inte det. Det finns några som är riktigt tysta. Corsair har en del sådana.

Processor fläkt kan bytas ut billigt mot en väldigt tyst variant.
Passiva grafik kort är förstås tystast, men de som har stora fläktar kan 
vara hyfsat tysta dem med.

Med de sakerna på plats brukar man ha svårt att höra om datorn ens är på.


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servidor de impressao

2012-05-01 Thread antonio lemos


Boa Tarde!

Estou precisando montar um servidor de impressao, tenho um debian mint lxde em 
uso, gostaria de usar ele, sao 3 impressoras de rede, duas brother e uma hp 
8000, mas estou tendo dificuldades com o cups e samba, alguem usa? pode me 
passar um tutorial que deu certo??

Desde ja meus agradecimentos.

Um abraco

Antonio Lemos


Re: servidor de impressao

2012-05-01 Thread Fábio Rabelo
Eu tenho alguns funcionando, mas não existe ( ou pelo menos eu nunca
encontrei um ) nenhum tutorial específico !

Do lado do cups, se o Sr. consegue imprimir para a impressora pelo Mint,
então está tudo OK .

Do lado do Samba, o que o Sr. precisa é configurar uma conexão com o
Domínio, eu sempre usei o tutorial do site oficial do Samba para isto :

http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_%26_Active_Directory

Uma dica, se o Sr. não precisar que os usuários do Mint tenham acesso ao
Diretório, então pode pular a parte do PAM, configurar o Winbind é
suficiente !


Fábio Rabelo



Em 1 de maio de 2012 13:22, antonio lemos lemos1...@yahoo.com.br escreveu:


 Boa Tarde!

 Estou precisando montar um servidor de impressao, tenho um debian mint
 lxde em uso, gostaria de usar ele, sao 3 impressoras de rede, duas brother
 e uma hp 8000, mas estou tendo dificuldades com o cups e samba, alguem usa?
 pode me passar um tutorial que deu certo??

 Desde ja meus agradecimentos.

 Um abraco

 Antonio Lemos



Depois de eliminada a partição Debian PC não carrega XP

2012-05-01 Thread Renato Batisteli Pinto
Prezados,

Antes de mais desculpas se estou a postar na lista errada mas, o problema
para além de ser grave pede que eu resolva com muita urgência. Tenho um
desktop no qual roda um XP e instalei o DEBIAN numa outra partição. A
gestão de arranque era feita pelo GRUB no qual defini que o SO default era
o XP. Acontece que apaguei a partição do DEBIAN e agora não consigo fazer
com que o XP arranque. Quando ligo o computador recebo a seguinte mensagem:

GNU GRUB VERSION 0.97 (639 K LOWER / 654 272K UPPER MEMORY)
[Minimal BAsh-Like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists
possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
compeltions of device / file name]

Sou absolutamente novato em Linux portanto se alguém puder orientar-me com
um step-by-step de como resolver o problema agradeço muito.

Obrigado a todos

-- 
Renato Batisteli Pinto
Lisboa - Portugal


Re: Depois de eliminada a partição Debian PC não carrega XP

2012-05-01 Thread Francisco C Soares

  
  
Boa noite,

Uma forma rpida seria, acredite, via cd de instalao do Windows
  98:
INICIE VIA CDROM;
NO PROMPT DO DOS, DIGITE: fdisk /mbr;
REINICIE O PC.

Ou via cd de instalao do prprio Windows XP:
INICIE VIA CDROM;
ENTRE NO CONSOLE DE RECUPERAO DO XP, DIGITE fixmbr;
REINICIE O PC.


Descrio da Consola de
  Recuperao do Windows XP para utilizadores avanados
  
  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058/pt


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403790c89847cdbe5a262146de8fb93139c4


On 05/01/2012 05:40 PM, Renato Batisteli Pinto wrote:
Prezados,
  
  
  Antes de mais desculpas se estou a postar na lista errada
mas, o problema para alm de ser grave pede que eu resolva com
muitaurgncia. Tenho um desktop no qual roda um XP e instalei o
DEBIAN numa outra partio. A gesto de arranque era feita pelo
GRUB no qual defini que o SO default era o XP. Acontece que
apaguei a partio do DEBIAN e agora no consigo fazer com que o
XP arranque. Quando ligo o computador recebo a seguinte
mensagem:
  
  
  GNU GRUB VERSION 0.97 (639 K LOWER / 654 272K UPPER MEMORY)
  [Minimal BAsh-Like line editing is supported. For the first
word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB
lists the possible compeltions of device / file name]
  
  
  Sou absolutamente novato em Linux portanto se algum puder
orientar-me com um step-by-step de como resolver o
problemaagradeomuito.
  
  
  Obrigado a todos
  
--
Renato Batisteli Pinto
Lisboa - Portugal
  


  



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Re: Depois de eliminada a partição Debian PC não carrega XP

2012-05-01 Thread Rodolfo
De um boot pelo cd do windows xp, logo logo aparecerá uma tela azul pedindo
para voce escolher se quer reparar o sistema (R) ou Avançar (Fazer uma nova
instalação ou reparar os arquivos essenciais).

Aperte R

Irá para uma tela preta, nela voce escolhe a unidade que quer reparar,
geralmente aparece assim:

1) C:\WINDOWS


Dai voce escolhe a unidade, lembrando que o sistema tiver com senha de
administrador você precisará fornece-la.

Apos isso pedira para escolher o layout de teclado, nesse caso voce pode
esperar para que selecione automaticamente ou escolher por conta propria.

Apos isso voce estara habilitado para executar alguns comandos.

Corrigir MBR:

fixmbr

Corrigir BOOT:

fixboot

ou seja, digite fixmbr de enter, depois escolha Yes, depois digite fixboot
de enter, depois escolha Yes...



Abraços.

Em 1 de maio de 2012 16:40, Renato Batisteli Pinto 
renatobatist...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Prezados,

 Antes de mais desculpas se estou a postar na lista errada mas, o problema
 para além de ser grave pede que eu resolva com muita urgência. Tenho um
 desktop no qual roda um XP e instalei o DEBIAN numa outra partição. A
 gestão de arranque era feita pelo GRUB no qual defini que o SO default era
 o XP. Acontece que apaguei a partição do DEBIAN e agora não consigo fazer
 com que o XP arranque. Quando ligo o computador recebo a seguinte mensagem:

 GNU GRUB VERSION 0.97 (639 K LOWER / 654 272K UPPER MEMORY)
 [Minimal BAsh-Like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB
 lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
 compeltions of device / file name]

 Sou absolutamente novato em Linux portanto se alguém puder orientar-me com
 um step-by-step de como resolver o problema agradeço muito.

 Obrigado a todos

 --
 Renato Batisteli Pinto
 Lisboa - Portugal



hibernar

2012-05-01 Thread Flavio Barros
Pessoal instalei o Debian 6 em um dell inpiron. O suspender funciona
normal, entretanto o hibernar simplesmente não funciona. Alguém teve o
mesmo problema?

-- 
Att,

Flávio Barros


Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

2012-05-01 Thread paivakil
Eric Rodriguez err...@gmail.com writes:

  running udevadm trigger as root made keyboard/touchpad responsive for me.

  until there's a fix, I just added that to the end of /etc/init.d/gdm

Now, there is some progress. Thanks for the info.  ;-D

-- 
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From The Devil's Dictionary (1881-1906) [devil]:
  LAWYER, n.  One skilled in circumvention of the law.


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Re: Nouveau!

2012-05-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-01 07:54 +0200, David Baron wrote:

 This has the gallium hardware acceleration code now and this is 
 fantastic.My 
 usual tests (using 3.1 kernel version):

 Chromium-BSU space invadors runs flawlessly

 Peguin racer would seem to run fine but has large artifacts, at least on my 
 PCI express card which will run off latest and greatest nvidia on Sid. 
 Thought 
 painting background graphics was the problem but disabling this did not help, 
 just that the artifact is blank instead of mountain.

Thanks for the feedback.  What's your graphics card?

 Flightgear most likely will not run if penguin racer will not.

 Might major complaint about the nvidia drivers is the thrashing of the 
 console 
 by some douibling of the lines or interlacing. Nouveau does not have this 
 problem but switches to a much smaller font. This is just fine. However, 
 every 
 font on KDE looks substantually smaller as well.

This isn't really specific to nouveau, you would see the same for other
free graphics drivers.  Some background is provided on upstream Xorg bug
reports [1,2].

Cheers,
   Sven


1. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705
2. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41115


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Solved: Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

2012-05-01 Thread Han Soo Chang
Thanks for your help.

It was just that I needed to apt-get install as root, not sudo apt-get.

The following command
# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
worked just fine.

$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
failed because the invoked script probably did not have the write permission
for a certain directory.

This is a little bit confusing for a newbie like me.
But, anyway, I can now see the videos on youtube.

I appreciate the help by everyone.

Han Soo
2012/4/30, Johan Grönqvist johan.gronqv...@gmail.com:
 2012-04-30 07:46, Han Soo Chang skrev:
 If you try fetching it with wget:
 wget
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc;
 does it produce an error message?

 This is the message I get.
 I am inside a corporate LAN with a proxy server whose address is
 ns14:8080.


 Cannot write to `fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc' (Permission denied).


 As Curt wrote, it seems that you can not write the output file.

 To verify that it is not network related:

 wget
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc;

 tries tio fetch and write to file, which does not work, as you tried
 before.

 wget
 http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc

 -O - will try to fetch the file and print it to standard output, so
 that you see it on screen. I expect that to work without problems.

 Is this a special setup with special write permissions?

 My interpretation is that the installation scripts fails to write a file
 that it wants to save to disc for later use.

 Regards

 Johan


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Re: OT - New Google algorithm

2012-05-01 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 30 Apr 2012, Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:04:57 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 
  For the last 3 weeks there has been a roughly 70 per cent drop in the
  number of hits on my web pages (although one of these pages in contrast,
  has seen a steep increase). Googling finds that there has been a change
  in the algorithm they use, which is intended to catch people using
  underhand methbods of inflating their hit rate. (I don't do this.) Has
  anyone else noticed anything similar?
 
 If you are not making use of any automated SEO tool that can be making 
 biased assignments to match your site with the desired keywords, I 
 wouldn't worry too much about it. Wait a bit until Google's algorithm 
 normalizes its results; IIRC, the last update change was done a couple of 
 days ago...
 
 Greetings,
 
 -- 
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Thanks for the reply. No, I don't have anything like that. I'll give it
a bit of time, as you say.

Regards,

Anthony
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Re: dhclient

2012-05-01 Thread Alberto Luaces
Bonno Bloksma writes:

 Hi,

 I have a server with several NICs, most of them have fixes addresses. One has 
 an address assigned via DHCP as is it the cable internet connection.
 I now have a problem with that connection and want to reconnect by forcing a 
 DHCP renewal, but... how?

 As on this server there is only one NIC with a DHCP assigned address I might 
 get away with just a restart of the dhclient service but, is there a way to 
 just request it for one nic?
 I was unable to find it in the docs.

ifdown $dhcp_NIC ; ifup $dhcp_NIC

should do if you substitute $dhcp_NIC by the interface representing that
NIC.


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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Davies
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's best to run an iptables script from /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/.

Unless you're using NetworkManager, which after two years and offers of
patches from the community, still doesn't support pre-up or post-down.

(I've come across this recently with a situation where I want my main
interface to become bridged for libvirt, but only at the point that the
specific interface is started. I think it's time for me to ditch NM and
return to network/interfaces. Again. Sigh.)

Chris


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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-05-01 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 19:50 -0500, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
   George Orwell (1984)
         
          1. Take care about /etc/default/rcS, there's an entry
         UTC=yes or UTC=no.
          It should fit to the way you handle the clock.
          2. Install and run ntpdate as superuser: ntpdate -u
         ntp.favey.ch

 That did the trick!

 Out of interest: Was it the UTC issue?

When dual-booting with Windows, you have Linux to set to localtime,
unless you change Windows to UTC via its registry.


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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-05-01 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote:
 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's best to run an iptables script from /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/.

 Unless you're using NetworkManager, which after two years and offers of
 patches from the community, still doesn't support pre-up or post-down.

 (I've come across this recently with a situation where I want my main
 interface to become bridged for libvirt, but only at the point that the
 specific interface is started. I think it's time for me to ditch NM and
 return to network/interfaces. Again. Sigh.)

I posted earlier that the NM equivalent of /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/
is /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d.

NM doesn't do bridging; in theory, YET...


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Re: how to set correct time, using debian wheezy with LXDE

2012-05-01 Thread Mika Suomalainen
30.04.2012 21:33, Ralf Mardorf kirjoitti:
 On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 12:39 -0500, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 Hola!


 I am using debian wheezy (amd-64), with LXDE.

 My problem is that the computer clock is WRONG. Which program should I
 install so that I
 can fix time (definig tz, etc), with LXDE?

 Kjetil


 -- 
 If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the
 human face - forever. 

 George Orwell (1984)
 
 1. Take care about /etc/default/rcS, there's an entry UTC=yes or UTC=no.
 It should fit to the way you handle the clock.
 2. Install and run ntpdate as superuser: ntpdate -u ntp.favey.ch
 It automatically will set time and date.
 
 Hth,
 Ralf
 
 

I would recommend installing ntp instead of ntpdate.

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gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728
Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A  AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728


0x82A46728.asc
Description: application/pgp-keys


signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: http://cdimage.debian.org/*-update-*.jigdo images?

2012-05-01 Thread Steve McIntyre
David wrote:

I use jigdo to obtain Debian ISO images.  Tonight, I'm getting:

 debian-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.jigdo
 debian-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.template

Plus the four checksum and four signature files at:

 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/amd64/jigdo-cd/


I've also noticed *-update-* files in the same directory:

 debian-update-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.jigdo
 debian-update-6.0.4-amd64-CD-1.template
 ...
 debian-update-6.0.4-amd64-CD-11.template

I've STFW and have some guesses (mount the ISO's via /etc/fstab and 
loopback, add entries to /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get update, 
etc.), but is there anything I can RTFM?  Should I get all 11 images, or 
just #11?

http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#update-cd

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file command failed to detect some mime types

2012-05-01 Thread J. Bakshi
Dear list,

I'm using file -bi command to check the mime types of files; specially for
.xls and .doc . It is running well on my local debian box. But the detection is 
not working at all on a remote server having file-5.09; don't know the linux 
distro
on thar serever though. There the command returns just

` ` ` ` ` `
charset=binary

` ` ` ` `

missing the mime types. Could anyone suggest how to debug this issue ?

Thanks


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Re: Desktop use (xfce) and system groups

2012-05-01 Thread Touko Korpela
Brian wrote:

 Hi.
 I'm running wheezy. Can someone give a list of groups, that desktop users
 should belong that video/audio playback (pulseaudio) work smoothly and
 they
 can for example shutdown/reboot system and use removable media without
 root
 password?

An Xfce install can implement all those actions. It would be better if
you could describe what it is you cannot do or what you want to achieve.

User is in (cdrom,floppy,audio,video,plugdev,scanner,netdev,bluetooth) groups
but root password is asked when trying to reboot or shutdown. I'm using
lightdm display manager. Looks like xdm package is removed but not purged,
can it cause problems? Display manager was automatically changed with
task-xfce-desktop version 3.06. I don't remember did it work before.


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W: best way to clone server data using rsync

2012-05-01 Thread Tuxoholic
Hi list

I'm about to clone 1TB of server data to a new file server I'm building. 

Cloning will happen over the internal network, and it will take several days, 
since I'll only run it while I'm awake/at home and checking up on the progress 
every once in a while.

rsync seems like the right choice, but how will it handle job canceling when 
I'm done for the day?

- will it resume files properly?
- will it run some sort of check sum to verify file integrity, or will I have 
to run myself an integrity check like md5sum afterwards?


What's the right set of parameters to call rsync from a shell script? I'm not 
used to sync such huge amount of files and directories, so I'm unclear about 
how to call rsync in this case.

Here's what I got so far from google research:

rsync --sockopts=SO_SNDBUF=128000,SO_RCVBUF=128000 -e rsh --archive \
--recursive --partial --partial-dir=rsync-part --progress --append \
--files-from=/root/LISTOFFILES.txt --log-file=/root/rsync.log \
root@myserver:/PATH2myOLDServerPool/* /mnt/Mount2myNewServerPool

LISTOFFILES.txt was created using:
rsync --list-only  /root/LISTOFFILES.txt


Can somebody comment on the parameters, e.g. how these will work fine with job 
canceling and how this will handle file integrity?

Is it safe to hit ctr+c to cancel the job, or is a SIGHUP to the rsync task 
the recommended/necessary way?


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:17:46 +0100, Brian wrote:

 On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 20:28:24 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:28:30 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
 
  Well, side-stepped, or buried, not really solved.   :-)
 
 Yup, but what could I do? The annoying posts are not reaching the list
 neither Gmane's archive so... what do you suggest? I'm all ears O:-)
 
 A first step is to determine where the mails originate from. It's the
 only data you have.

(...)

E-mail headers say not much (see the link). At least seems to come from a 
genuine Gmail account:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Lz8eFuTe

X-Mailer and Message-Id gives some clues about the origin but nothing 
on why I/we get the posts :-?

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:11:36 -0500, Indulekha wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 05:06:51PM -0500, Indulekha wrote:
 
 [caution: rant ahead]
 
 Argh -- I already *have* usenet access through NiN, and a very nicely
 detailed slrn config -- debian's list people should use a more
 competent mail2news gateway that doesn't suck and break threading,
 period full stop. This annoys the bejeepers out of me. To use gmane I
 have to figure out how to run 2 nntpervers, what a royal PITA. Why do
 they bother with creating the usenet group linux.deian.user and then
 break interoperability with the list from which the group is derived?!
 
 [/rant]

Maybe is that I missed something but AFAIK, Debian does not have a 
mail2news gateway, at least nothing that's official. What people do to 
read the mailing lists from a newsreader is using a NNTP server or using 
Google Groups (which I don't recommend). 

 Bah, I'll go have a cup of tea then maybe I'll face up to implementing
 this silly gmane kludge that absolutely should not be necessary.
 Damned frustrating. Or mMaybe I'll just subscribe the normal way and
 spend ridiculously long times loading my mail across this pitiful
 dialup connection. I'll have to think on it.
 
 Anyway, thanks Camaleón for pointing me at that website (which
 absolutely should not be necessary).

?

Setting up Gmane (or another news server) is plain easy, I mean, for the 
client side. Another thing would be you have to configure you own nntp 
server as a local cache but that's another story...

 Ok, so I subscribed the normal way, and I'll just periodically purge
 the mails to avoid waiting for 857,000 emails to load over dialup. I
 don't like it though, and it really strikes me as incredibly obvious
 that there's just no excuse for the silliness of no header
 interoperability between the mailing list and the usenet group.
 Apparently for the sake of someone's ego being tickled by having bofh
 in their custom headers. Flippin' weenie...
 
 Glad I got that off my chest, I feel better now. :)

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean nor what you are doing :-?

Greetings,

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Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Ramon Hofer
Hi all

I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8 
as controller for a software raid.
Unfortunately the system crashes when I try creating a filesystem on the 
md device.

Here's the full output of lshw:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=C900cBnN

The controller is listed in the Debian wiki PCI database:
PCI id: 11ab:6480
module (kernel2.6.26-1-686): mvsas
Vendor Name: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
Device Name: MV64460/64461/64462 System Controller
http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI


The module is loaded:
$ lsmod | grep mvsas
mvsas  36800  0 
libsas 35735  1 mvsas
scsi_transport_sas 19881  2 mvsas,libsas
scsi_mod  126789  6 
sg,sd_mod,mvsas,libsas,libata,scsi_transport_sas


And I can access the disks. Create an ext3 and ext4 filesystem on them 
seperately. But they don't like be be in the raid.

When the system crashed I got this dmesg but I can't find anything in 
there:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZFdkcS8p

On the screen I saw this:
http://666k.com/u.php
(Sorry it's a photograph)


What else can I do?

There are Red Hat ad SUSE drivers and firmware on the Supermicro 
homepage. Should I take them from there?



Best regards
Ramon


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Re: file command failed to detect some mime types

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 01 May 2012 15:47:27 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote:

 I'm using file -bi command to check the mime types of files; specially
 for .xls and .doc . It is running well on my local debian box. But the
 detection is not working at all on a remote server having file-5.09;
 don't know the linux distro on thar serever though. There the command
 returns just
 
 ` ` ` ` ` `
 charset=binary
 
 ` ` ` ` `
 
 missing the mime types. Could anyone suggest how to debug this issue ?

A bug in that specific version?

http://bugs.gw.com/view.php?id=146

Greetings,

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Re: W: best way to clone server data using rsync

2012-05-01 Thread Lars Noodén
On 5/1/12 2:08 PM, Tuxoholic wrote:
[snip]
 - will it resume files properly?
 - will it run some sort of check sum to verify file integrity, or will I have 
 to run myself an integrity check like md5sum afterwards?

Yes it will resume and it will verify file integrity.  Using the archive
option like you've chosen below, it will make sure that the target is
like the source.

[snip]
 Is it safe to hit ctr+c to cancel the job, or is a SIGHUP to the rsync task 
 the recommended/necessary way?

It's safe to cancel, rsync will pick up what it has missed when it
starts again.

Regards,
/Lars


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Re: file command failed to detect some mime types

2012-05-01 Thread J. Bakshi
On Tue, 1 May 2012 12:06:47 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 01 May 2012 15:47:27 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote:
 
  I'm using file -bi command to check the mime types of files; specially
  for .xls and .doc . It is running well on my local debian box. But the
  detection is not working at all on a remote server having file-5.09;
  don't know the linux distro on thar serever though. There the command
  returns just
  
  ` ` ` ` ` `
  charset=binary
  
  ` ` ` ` `
  
  missing the mime types. Could anyone suggest how to debug this issue ?
 
 A bug in that specific version?
 
 http://bugs.gw.com/view.php?id=146
 
 Greetings,
 

Not confirmed, but thanks for the clue.


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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-05-01 Thread Matthias Guentert
2012/4/30 Curt cu...@free.fr:
 Well, I've been bitten a few times by the logical fallacy referred to by
 the Latin phrase _post hoc ergo propter hoc_, so I'm dubious concerning
 the usb trail, although I'm as ignorant as I am dubious.

 For every system freeze I have ever experienced, the guilty party was my
 graphics card/driver combination, notably, my nvidia card with the
 closed-source driver.  As it appears you have an nvidia video card, you may
 wish to explore this possibility, if you haven't already.

Thanks for your reply - very appreciated. Currently I am running
Windows Vista on a third harddisk to see if a hardware fault can be
excluded being the culprit. So far I did not had one freeze since
weeks running Vista. This points back to your suspicion. I will switch
back to the opensource nv driver and see if this solves the random
freezes.


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Re: Alt key problem with MacBookPro

2012-05-01 Thread Riccardo Romoli
Hi Daniel,
the problem is that my keyboard has not two alt keys, but only the
left ones. In the alt right key position I have another enter. How can
I replace it with the right alt??

Best
Riccardo

On 4/22/12, Daniel Landau daniel.lan...@iki.fi wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Riccardo Romoli ric.rom...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 my name is Riccardo, and I'm a newbie of Debian. Using the Debian-Wiky
 I was able to install Debian 6 as single boot on my MacBookPro
 (v.3.1). The only problem I notice, till now, is about the Alt key
 that doesn't work. I tried to configure the keyboard with the
 graphical interface but I wasn't able solve my problem. If, for
 example I press Alt+Tab,  I was able to switch between the different
 windows, but the Alt key doesn't work both in the various text editors
 (emacs, gedit...) and in the terminal, to type the extra character
 such as tilde, square brackets...

 How can I solve this problem? Is there a way to manually map the
 keyboard??

 Did you choose the Mac/Apple layout when prompted? On my Macbook the
 left alt is the meta-key (for window switching, M-x etc. keybindings
 in Emacs) and the right alt is used for various extra characters. So
 the left and right alt are (usually) not the same key on an Apple
 keyboard in GNU/Linux.

 Daniel Landau



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Re: change local definitions

2012-05-01 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Ivo Daniel Alves
ivodaniel.al...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using Amanda on SL 6.2 to backup several computers including windows
 workstations.

 When I do the backups from windows clients, I get some errors when
 compressing with zip because of special chars that like ç á, or ã, for
 example (European portuguese: PT_pt).
  I think this happens because SL is using UFT8 by default. Can I change it
 to iso88591? How? Can I use both char settings?
 In the next lines de output of locale and locale -a

 [ivo@mega ~]$ locale
 LANG=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_CTYPE=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_NUMERIC=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_TIME=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_COLLATE=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_MONETARY=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_MESSAGES=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_PAPER=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_NAME=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_ADDRESS=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_TELEPHONE=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_MEASUREMENT=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=pt_PT.utf8
 LC_ALL=

You can use /etc/sysconfig/i18n.


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Re: change local definitions

2012-05-01 Thread David Sastre Medina
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 08:55:47AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Ivo Daniel Alves
 ivodaniel.al...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm using Amanda on SL 6.2 to backup several computers including windows
  workstations.
 
  When I do the backups from windows clients, I get some errors when
  compressing with zip because of special chars that like ç á, or ã, for
  example (European portuguese: PT_pt).
   I think this happens because SL is using UFT8 by default. Can I change it
  to iso88591? How? Can I use both char settings?
  In the next lines de output of locale and locale -a
 
  [ivo@mega ~]$ locale
  LANG=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_CTYPE=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_NUMERIC=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_TIME=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_COLLATE=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_MONETARY=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_MESSAGES=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_PAPER=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_NAME=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_ADDRESS=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_TELEPHONE=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_MEASUREMENT=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_IDENTIFICATION=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_ALL=
 
 You can use /etc/sysconfig/i18n.

...if you are on RHEL or CentOS or Fedora.
Debian way would be dpkg-reconfigure locales.

Also, UTF-8 should give you wider coverage than latin-1, IIRC.

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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 01 May 2012 11:53:27 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
 AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid.
 Unfortunately the system crashes when I try creating a filesystem on the
 md device.

JFYI, Google reports tons of problems with that card using mvsas driver 
in linux, maybe you should consider using a different controller :-(

(...)

 And I can access the disks. Create an ext3 and ext4 filesystem on them
 seperately. But they don't like be be in the raid.
 
 When the system crashed I got this dmesg but I can't find anything in
 there:
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZFdkcS8p

There are some interesting entries there:

[   12.028337] md: md1 stopped.
[   12.029374] md: bindsdc
[   12.034155] md: bindsdd
[   12.034275] md: bindsdb
[   12.034986] raid5: device sdb operational as raid disk 0
[   12.034988] raid5: device sdc operational as raid disk 1
[   12.035246] raid5: allocated 3230kB for md1
[   12.035270] 0: w=1 pa=0 pr=3 m=1 a=2 r=3 op1=0 op2=0
[   12.035272] 1: w=2 pa=0 pr=3 m=1 a=2 r=3 op1=0 op2=0
[   12.035275] raid5: raid level 5 set md1 active with 2 out of 3 devices, 
algorithm 2
[   12.035378] RAID5 conf printout:
[   12.035380]  --- rd:3 wd:2
[   12.035382]  disk 0, o:1, dev:sdb
[   12.035383]  disk 1, o:1, dev:sdc
[   12.035406] md1: detected capacity change from 0 to 4000794542080
[   12.035940] md1: unknown partition table

Those are related to md1 and your raid5 volume.

[   12.244499] PM: Starting manual resume from disk
[   12.244502] PM: Resume from partition 8:3
[   12.244503] PM: Checking hibernation image.
[   12.244599] PM: Error -22 checking image file
[   12.244602] PM: Resume from disk failed.

And this comes from a resuming operation. Do you hibernate your system?

 On the screen I saw this:
 http://666k.com/u.php
 (Sorry it's a photograph)

I can't load the image :-?

 What else can I do?

I would report it, although I'm afraid this is a well-known issue. 

Maybe you can try with an updated kernel to see if there's any imprevement 
with the driver (mvsas) but to be sincere, I would be very reluctant in 
setting a raid 5 level with a hard disk controller that is not rock-solid, 
you are exposing your system to a data loss :-/

 There are Red Hat ad SUSE drivers and firmware on the Supermicro
 homepage. Should I take them from there?

Sadly, Supermicro does not build binaries for Debian/Ubuntu but maybe you can
ask them for the sources to compile the driver by your own.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:04:38PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 I am not receiving anything like that. Have you happened to post about
 this issue earlier to this list or am I just imagining it?
 
 By the way, this looks like a reason to GPG sign everything, like I am
 doing. There is sometimes arguing at gnupg-user and enigmail user about
 should messages to mailing lists be signed or not. I think that there
 was once such arguement here too in some of those multiple [OT] Posting
 styles threads.

That would achieve nothing for this case. A completely separate message
is being sent in response.

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Re: change local definitions

2012-05-01 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:22 AM, David Sastre Medina
d.sastre.med...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 08:55:47AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Ivo Daniel Alves
 ivodaniel.al...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm using Amanda on SL 6.2 to backup several computers including windows
  workstations.
 
  When I do the backups from windows clients, I get some errors when
  compressing with zip because of special chars that like ç á, or ã, 
  for
  example (European portuguese: PT_pt).
   I think this happens because SL is using UFT8 by default. Can I change it
  to iso88591? How? Can I use both char settings?
  In the next lines de output of locale and locale -a
 
  [ivo@mega ~]$ locale
  LANG=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_CTYPE=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_NUMERIC=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_TIME=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_COLLATE=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_MONETARY=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_MESSAGES=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_PAPER=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_NAME=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_ADDRESS=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_TELEPHONE=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_MEASUREMENT=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_IDENTIFICATION=pt_PT.utf8
  LC_ALL=

 You can use /etc/sysconfig/i18n.

 ...if you are on RHEL or CentOS or Fedora.
 Debian way would be dpkg-reconfigure locales.

 Also, UTF-8 should give you wider coverage than latin-1, IIRC.

Sorry. Replied to the wrong mailing list...


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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Allan Wind
On 2012-05-01 11:53:27, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8 
 as controller for a software raid.

I have a different SuperMicro board and it can run in two 
different modes, forget their names for it, but one supports soft 
raid and the other does not (IT or something).  I needed to flash
the firmware to use the latter, then use mdadm to configure a 
Linux soft array.


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 04:11:37PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is just me who receives this sort of e-mails when replying to certain 
 messages of this mailing list?
 
 I'm now getting this which pretends to be from myself so I guess the 
 other posts I received were also faked in the same way.

I also received a couple, one which I replied to:

The --- Start --- and --- EOF  are NOT part of the message

--- Start ---
 __
 Type your response ABOVE THIS LINE to reply

 


 Re: Backup backup backup -- sound problem SOLVED using a backup

 1QA4xxx2a | Apr 28, 2012 02:03AM UTC

 Thank you for submitting your request. We have received your request
 and are working on responding to you as soon as possible.+If you have
 any additional information to add to this case, please reply to this
 email.

 Thanks in advance for your patience and support.

 

 This message was sent to poenik...@fastmail.co.uk in reference to Case
 #79776.
 



 [[ea588062ec563e07cfb2e1aa2735fef0bf3c9d5e-1708023]]

--- EOF 

By replying to it, I rec another message, which I deleted. I found the
above in my sent directory.

Notice poenik...@fastmail.co.uk is not my email address and I cannot
remember whether Mika CC'd me. The sender was joe1assis...@gmail.com

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Re: dhclient

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:23:52 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote:

 I have a server with several NICs, most of them have fixes addresses.
 One has an address assigned via DHCP as is it the cable internet
 connection. I now have a problem with that connection and want to
 reconnect by forcing a DHCP renewal, but... how?

(...)

dhclient -r $dev  dhclient $dev should do the trick.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:28:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:28:30 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
 
  On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:52:05 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  Hello Camaleón,
  
  That could be the common link for those who receive these messages
  (Indulekha is also using an external gateway and also gets them).
  
  Indeed, but I hadn't noticed that at the time I replied.
 
 Ah.. are you also using a news server?

I'm not using a news server.

  YW.
  
  Finally, FWIW, I didn't see anything from joe1 after my last post.  Of
  course, it could have been caught by a server-side spamtrap.  Normally
  though, emails of that type arrive and end up in the unsure pile that
  bogofilter generates during mail import.
 
 You can try to reply to this thread (grub2 loop back is not working) 

Mmmm, was that
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01777.html ?
cause I'm fairly sure this was the second¹ and last one:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01779.html
to which I recieved the automated? reply.

¹ See message earlier on in this thread.

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Re: Network Manager forgets WPA2 password.

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:11:55 -0500, Christian wrote:

 When I log into Gnome-Shell my WPA2 password is remembered between
 sessions in Network Manager. But when I log into my default desktop
 (Pekwm/Tint2) which also uses Network Manager I have to enter the
 password every time. What can I do to get Network Manager remember the
 password outside of Gnome?
 
 I'm running Debian Wheezy with Gnome 3.2

That would depend on how do you want to manage your wireless interfaces 
from your DE/WM. These set of docs will help you to decide:

http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html

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cpu frequency management opteron lost?

2012-05-01 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
Hi,

I used to have my CPU frequency scaled back to 1000 Mz (from 2200 MHz)
which I could see in my Gnome2 applet.

1. Is there an application with which I can check the actual speed?
2. Can I manage the speed?
3. If so, how?

Running /etc/init.d/cpufreqd start just reports:
panoramix:/home/jkr# /etc/init.d/cpufreqd start
Starting CPU Frequency daemon: cpufreqd failed!

I have looked at the output of cpufreqd -D -V 7 but that did not help.

cpufreq-utils:
panoramix:/home/jkr# cpufreq-info 
cpufrequtils 007: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009
Report errors and bugs to cpuf...@vger.kernel.org, please.
analyzing CPU 0:
  no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
analyzing CPU 1:
  no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms

lsmod:
panoramix:/home/jkr# lsmod | grep cpu
cpufreq_userspace  12576  0 
cpufreq_conservative13147  0 
cpufreq_stats  12866  0 
cpufreq_powersave  12454  0

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 05:10:13PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
 Yes, I received 2-3 but someone must have marked then as Spam on gmail.
 
 They have stopped now for me.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01786.html and
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01792.html ?

That means J. Bakshi baksh...@gmail.com and 
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com possibly recieved some?

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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Tue, 01 May 2012 13:31:34 +, Camaleón wrote:

 On Tue, 01 May 2012 11:53:27 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 
 I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
 AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid. Unfortunately the
 system crashes when I try creating a filesystem on the md device.
 
 JFYI, Google reports tons of problems with that card using mvsas driver
 in linux, maybe you should consider using a different controller :-(

Thanks for your info.
I wasn't aware of that :-(

Can you recommend something better?
It was very nice because it's quite cheap and I don't need a hardware 
raid card.


 And I can access the disks. Create an ext3 and ext4 filesystem on them
 seperately. But they don't like be be in the raid.
 
 When the system crashed I got this dmesg but I can't find anything in
 there:
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZFdkcS8p
 
 There are some interesting entries there:
 
 [   12.028337] md: md1 stopped.
 [   12.029374] md: bindsdc
 [   12.034155] md: bindsdd
 [   12.034275] md: bindsdb
 [   12.034986] raid5: device sdb operational as raid disk 0 [  
 12.034988] raid5: device sdc operational as raid disk 1 [   12.035246]
 raid5: allocated 3230kB for md1 [   12.035270] 0: w=1 pa=0 pr=3 m=1 a=2
 r=3 op1=0 op2=0 [   12.035272] 1: w=2 pa=0 pr=3 m=1 a=2 r=3 op1=0 op2=0
 [   12.035275] raid5: raid level 5 set md1 active with 2 out of 3
 devices, algorithm 2 [   12.035378] RAID5 conf printout:
 [   12.035380]  --- rd:3 wd:2
 [   12.035382]  disk 0, o:1, dev:sdb
 [   12.035383]  disk 1, o:1, dev:sdc
 [   12.035406] md1: detected capacity change from 0 to 4000794542080 [  
 12.035940] md1: unknown partition table
 
 Those are related to md1 and your raid5 volume.

And this looks ok or is there a problem?


 [   12.244499] PM: Starting manual resume from disk [   12.244502] PM:
 Resume from partition 8:3 [   12.244503] PM: Checking hibernation image.
 [   12.244599] PM: Error -22 checking image file [   12.244602] PM:
 Resume from disk failed.
 
 And this comes from a resuming operation. Do you hibernate your system?

No I don't. I usually do `sudo halt` to shut it off.
But maybe I pressed the power button of the case before I collected the 
dmesg report. But usually I don't hibernate.


 On the screen I saw this:
 http://666k.com/u.php
 (Sorry it's a photograph)
 
 I can't load the image :-?

Sorry I posted the wrong link. This one should work:

http://666kb.com/i/c3f6nbmalagytqujw.jpg


 What else can I do?
 
 I would report it, although I'm afraid this is a well-known issue.

Where should I report it?
I've written a mail to Supermicro. Should I also create a Debian bug 
report?


 Maybe you can try with an updated kernel to see if there's any
 imprevement with the driver (mvsas) but to be sincere, I would be very
 reluctant in setting a raid 5 level with a hard disk controller that is
 not rock-solid, you are exposing your system to a data loss :-/
 
 There are Red Hat ad SUSE drivers and firmware on the Supermicro
 homepage. Should I take them from there?
 
 Sadly, Supermicro does not build binaries for Debian/Ubuntu but maybe
 you can ask them for the sources to compile the driver by your own.

I found this pages:

ftp://ftp.supermicro.nl/driver/SAS/Marvell/MV8/SAS1/Driver/Linux/3.1.0.7/

But it doesn't seem as if it's what I need.

And the supermicro support sent me the link to this zip file:

ftp://ftp.supermicro.nl/driver/SAS/Marvell/MV8/SAS1/Firmware/3.1.0.21/
Firmware_3.1.0.21.zip

It contains some win files and I have no clue what to do with them. So I 
hope I get an answer from them what to do with it...


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Tue, 01 May 2012 09:35:36 -0400, Allan Wind wrote:

 On 2012-05-01 11:53:27, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
 AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid.
 
 I have a different SuperMicro board and it can run in two different
 modes, forget their names for it, but one supports soft raid and the
 other does not (IT or something).  I needed to flash the firmware to use
 the latter, then use mdadm to configure a Linux soft array.

The supermicro support sent ma a link to a zip file which contains two 
exes a bat and a bin file:
ftp://ftp.supermicro.nl/driver/SAS/Marvell/MV8/SAS1/Firmware/3.1.0.21/
Firmware_3.1.0.21.zip

It contains

6480.bin
dos4gw.exe
mvf.exe
smc.bat

smc.bat contains
mvf 6480.bin –y

So I suppose I have to create a USB stick that boots DOS and then run one 
of the command. But which one. Maybe smc.bat but what is dos4gw.exe for?

Do you remember how you updated the firmware?


Best regards
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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Tue, 01 May 2012 14:54:24 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 Do you remember how you updated the firmware?

I have just got an answer from supermicro:

 You can create bootable USB stick with this utility  (windows only)
 http://download.softpedia.ro/dl/
f82c4af1fbe1f35565d91a87dedd9c5b/4e083d83/100081785/software/OTHERS/
BootFlashDos.zip

So I'l try Unetbootin and FreeDOS...



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Problem with Alsa and HDMI audio output

2012-05-01 Thread José Luis Segura Lucas
Hi!

I have a computer with a HDMI output. If I use the default audio output (3.5 
jack) it works fine, but when I try to use the HDMI one, I have some problems.

I tried to configure it using the pulseaudio GUI, I can't get it working. If I 
use a program that allows to select which audio output use (mplayer for 
example), I select the hdmi output and works fine.

I tried using a .asoundrc file, but pulseaudio seems to ignore it... 

Any idea? Thanks in advance
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Re: Problem with Alsa and HDMI audio output

2012-05-01 Thread Shane Johnson
Jose,
Did you make sure your users are part of the audio group?

Shane

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:27 AM, José Luis Segura Lucas
josel.seg...@gmx.eswrote:

 Hi!

 I have a computer with a HDMI output. If I use the default audio output
 (3.5 jack) it works fine, but when I try to use the HDMI one, I have some
 problems.

 I tried to configure it using the pulseaudio GUI, I can't get it working.
 If I use a program that allows to select which audio output use (mplayer
 for example), I select the hdmi output and works fine.

 I tried using a .asoundrc file, but pulseaudio seems to ignore it...

 Any idea? Thanks in advance
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Re: Problem with Alsa and HDMI audio output

2012-05-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 17:27 +0200, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I have a computer with a HDMI output. If I use the default audio
 output (3.5 jack) it works fine, but when I try to use the HDMI one,
 I have some problems.
 
 I tried to configure it using the pulseaudio GUI, I can't get it
 working. If I use a program that allows to select which audio output
 use (mplayer for example), I select the hdmi output and works fine.
 
 I tried using a .asoundrc file, but pulseaudio seems to ignore it... 
 
 Any idea? Thanks in advance

Yes, I've got an idea, but I'll be quiet, since I don't like o be called
a troll ;). I'm kidding.

What do you think? The answer already is in your question.

Why do you have pulse installed, resp. for what exactly do you need
pulse?

If you're using Linux there's something we call self-responsibility. If
pulse cause an issue, than why do you use it? Pulse isn't needed. If
it's a dependency of your DE, than get rid of that odd DE.

Regards,
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Re: Problem with Alsa and HDMI audio output

2012-05-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS:
If you should insist in using Debian for audio, than test
http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html . I don't recommend to use it, but
for audio it's better than a clean Debian install, since for good
reasons, it ships without pulse.


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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/1/2012 6:53 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8 
 as controller for a software raid.

The mvsas Linux driver has never been ready for production, unless
things have dramatically changed very recently.  The AOC-SASLP-MV8 will
work fine on a MS Windows machine, but you will continue to suffer many
nightmares with Linux.  Google for the mvsas horror stories.

 What else can I do?

Ebay that card and acquire one that will simply work:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118112
This LSI card supports 6Gb SAS/SATA3 and 3TB+ drives.

If you have x4 PCIe slots but not x8/x16, then get the Intel card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117141

People buy this SM card because it's the cheapest thing on the planet
with 2xSFF8087 ports (without first looking up its reputation).  If the
dual SFF8087 cards above are beyond your budget, go with 2 Silicon Image
based 4 port cards with plain SATA connectors:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124027

If you don't have a backplane with SFF8087 connectors, simply use 4
regular SATA cables with the SiI cards.  If you do have a backplane, buy
2 new 4 port SATA to SFF8087 2ft reverse breakout cables:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116101

The LSI card is $239, will give far superior performance, and will work
with your current cables.  The 2xSiI cards is $120, $154 w/cables.
Either have great Linux compatibility.

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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 02:54:24PM +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 On Tue, 01 May 2012 09:35:36 -0400, Allan Wind wrote:
 
[cut]
 
 So I suppose I have to create a USB stick that boots DOS and then run one 
 of the command. But which one. Maybe smc.bat but what is dos4gw.exe for?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS/4G



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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 01 May 2012 14:38:47 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 On Tue, 01 May 2012 13:31:34 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 On Tue, 01 May 2012 11:53:27 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 
 I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
 AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid. Unfortunately the
 system crashes when I try creating a filesystem on the md device.
 
 JFYI, Google reports tons of problems with that card using mvsas driver
 in linux, maybe you should consider using a different controller :-(
 
 Thanks for your info.
 I wasn't aware of that :-(

Yeah, that usually happens. I had to read lots of documents before buying 
the raid card controller for my servers. I ensured the card was fully 
supported by the kernel but still you never know if a bug is going to hit 
you at some point. Linux users play with disadvantage here.
 
 Can you recommend something better?
 It was very nice because it's quite cheap and I don't need a hardware
 raid card.

Cheap and nice do not usually came together, or to put it well, 
cheap and good performance do not usually match :-)

What kind of hardware do you have (motherboard brand and model) and what 
kind of hard disk controller do you need, what are your expectations?

SuperMicro boards (I'm also a SuperMicro user) are usually good enough to 
use their embedded SAS/SATA ports, at least if you want to use a software 
raid solution :-?

 And I can access the disks. Create an ext3 and ext4 filesystem on them
 seperately. But they don't like be be in the raid.
 
 When the system crashed I got this dmesg but I can't find anything in
 there:
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZFdkcS8p
 
 There are some interesting entries there:
 
 [   12.028337] md: md1 stopped.
(...)
 [   12.035275] raid5: raid level 5 set md1 active with 2 out of 3 devices, 
 algorithm 2
 
 Those are related to md1 and your raid5 volume.
 
 And this looks ok or is there a problem?

Well, I'm not familiar with MD (I use hardware raid) but md1 stopped 
and raid 5 with only 2 elements in the array does not sound very good ;-(

 [   12.244499] PM: Starting manual resume from disk 
 [   12.244502] PM: Resume from partition 8:3 
 [   12.244503] PM: Checking hibernation image. 
 [   12.244599] PM: Error -22 checking image file 
 [   12.244602] PM: Resume from disk failed.
 
 And this comes from a resuming operation. Do you hibernate your system?
 
 No I don't. I usually do `sudo halt` to shut it off. But maybe I pressed
 the power button of the case before I collected the dmesg report. But
 usually I don't hibernate.

Okay.

 On the screen I saw this:
 http://666k.com/u.php
 (Sorry it's a photograph)
 
 I can't load the image :-?
 
 Sorry I posted the wrong link. This one should work:
 
 http://666kb.com/i/c3f6nbmalagytqujw.jpg

Ugh... and when is that happening, I mean, that I/O error? At install time, 
when partitioning, after the first boot?

 What else can I do?
 
 I would report it, although I'm afraid this is a well-known issue.
 
 Where should I report it?

I would try firt in Debian BTS, against the kernel package.

 I've written a mail to Supermicro. Should I also create a Debian bug
 report?

Yup, tough I think it will be forwarded upstream.
 
 Sadly, Supermicro does not build binaries for Debian/Ubuntu but maybe
 you can ask them for the sources to compile the driver by your own.
 
 I found this pages:
 
 ftp://ftp.supermicro.nl/driver/SAS/Marvell/MV8/SAS1/Driver/Linux/3.1.0.7/
 
 But it doesn't seem as if it's what I need.

Mmm, your addon card is based on Marvell 6480 chipset, those packages are 
for Marvell Odin(88SE64xx) as the README file says. Maybe you need to look 
here, instead:

ftp://ftp.supermicro.nl/driver/SAS/Marvell/MV8/SAS2/

But it doesn't matter because these are also rpm based packages.

 And the supermicro support sent me the link to this zip file:
 
 ftp://ftp.supermicro.nl/driver/SAS/Marvell/MV8/SAS1/Firmware/3.1.0.21/Firmware_3.1.0.21.zip
 
 It contains some win files and I have no clue what to do with them. So I
 hope I get an answer from them what to do with it...

Mmm, then the above FTP link you sent was correct, weird...

Well, that ZIP file is for updating the firmware of the card, not the 
driver. You should not update it unless you are completely sure about what 
you are doing, and even more when there's data on the array. Also, ensure 
that's the correct firmware version for you card...

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RE: Install a package from testing?

2012-05-01 Thread Nick Meyers

Yuck, I'm not sure I can turn html off from the hotmail interface. I use 
hotmail for stuff like this for the sake of safety. FWIW, I do have html 
disabled by default on Icedove, but I don't have this email account tied to 
that, so I have to use the web interface. I will ry to figure that out, but in 
the meantime I'll abstain from posting again, and...

Apologies to all!

Nick

 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 From: noela...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Install a package from testing?
 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:20:23 +
 
 On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:19:58 -0500, Nick Meyers wrote:
 
  Good evening all,
 
 Hi... please, turn off html when posting, thanks :-)
  
 (...)
 
  How hard would it be to install just that package from the testing
  suite, and if it is not too much trouble, would someone be willing to
  direct me?
 
 I can't tell how hard it can be but have you considered in getting the 
 deb file from the upstream site¹? It says it's for Ubuntu but it may 
 also also work for Debian :-?
 
 ¹http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/#downloads
 
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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/1/2012 8:35 AM, Allan Wind wrote:
 On 2012-05-01 11:53:27, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8 
 as controller for a software raid.
 
 I have a different SuperMicro board and it can run in two 
 different modes, forget their names for it, but one supports soft 
 raid and the other does not (IT or something).  I needed to flash
 the firmware to use the latter, then use mdadm to configure a 
 Linux soft array.

Then you must have the 8 port PCI-X AOC-SAT2-MV8, w/Marvell 88SX6081
SATAII controller.  This chip uses the Linux sata-mv driver, which works
fine.

The AOC-SASLP-MV8 has the Marvell 88SE6480 SAS controller chip.  This
chip uses the mvsas driver, which has simply never worked properly and
often causes massive data loss.  Not a desirable trait in a storage driver.

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Re: Install a package from testing?

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 01 May 2012 11:17:57 -0500, Nick Meyers wrote:

(and don't forget to reply at the bottom)

 Hi... please, turn off html when posting, thanks :-)
  
 (...)

 Yuck, I'm not sure I can turn html off from the hotmail interface. I use
 hotmail for stuff like this for the sake of safety. FWIW, I do have html
 disabled by default on Icedove, but I don't have this email account tied
 to that, so I have to use the web interface. I will ry to figure that
 out, but in the meantime I'll abstain from posting again, and...
 
 Apologies to all!

No need to apology nor avoid from posting!

Just configure your e-mail/webmail client as it should be ;-)

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#HowTo_send_plain_text_emails_to_the_list

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Re: W: best way to clone server data using rsync

2012-05-01 Thread Indulekha
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 01:08:14PM +0200, Tuxoholic wrote:
 Hi list
 
 I'm about to clone 1TB of server data to a new file server I'm building. 
 
 Cloning will happen over the internal network, and it will take several days, 
 since I'll only run it while I'm awake/at home and checking up on the 
 progress 
 every once in a while.
 
 rsync seems like the right choice, but how will it handle job canceling when 
 I'm done for the day?
 
 - will it resume files properly?

I use rsync for syncing and backups everyday, but I always do babysit it 
or at least check it when it finishes. Not sure if it will resume files 
properly, but certainly it will update appropriately when used correctly.

 - will it run some sort of check sum to verify file integrity, or will I have 
 to run myself an integrity check like md5sum afterwards?
 

Certainly wouldn't hurt, though I don't think it's necessary...

 
 What's the right set of parameters to call rsync from a shell script? I'm not 
 used to sync such huge amount of files and directories, so I'm unclear about 
 how to call rsync in this case.
 
 Here's what I got so far from google research:
 
 rsync --sockopts=SO_SNDBUF=128000,SO_RCVBUF=128000 -e rsh --archive \
 --recursive --partial --partial-dir=rsync-part --progress --append \
 --files-from=/root/LISTOFFILES.txt --log-file=/root/rsync.log \
 root@myserver:/PATH2myOLDServerPool/* /mnt/Mount2myNewServerPool
 
 LISTOFFILES.txt was created using:
 rsync --list-only  /root/LISTOFFILES.txt
 

Often I use something like:

rsync --archive --one-file-system --hard-links --human-readable --inplace 
--numeric-ids --delete --progress --exclude-from 
'/home/indulekha/.rsync-exclude / /copy_of_system/

to duplicate a system, with the '~/.rsync-exclude' file containing 
files and directories to ignore. Hopefully it's obvious that copy_of_system 
is a path you determine. 

 Can somebody comment on the parameters, e.g. how these will work fine with 
 job 
 canceling and how this will handle file integrity?

https://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/storage/8200-back-up-like-an-expert-with-rsynchttp://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/rsync-command-examples/

 Is it safe to hit ctr+c to cancel the job, or is a SIGHUP to the rsync task 
 the recommended/necessary way?


ctrl-c will work. 

HTH!
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Installing packages from Wheezy in Squeeze

2012-05-01 Thread James Allsopp

Hello,
Is there an easy way of installing a package (namely virtinst) from 
Wheezy in Squeeze? I've tried variations of

aptitude install -t wheezy virtinst
and
aptitude install virtinst/wheezy

but with no joy, It goes through the start process but says there's 
nothing to update or upgrade

Thanks,
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Re: Installing packages from Wheezy in Squeeze

2012-05-01 Thread David Sastre Medina
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:40:24PM +, James Allsopp wrote:
 Hello,
 Is there an easy way of installing a package (namely virtinst) from
 Wheezy in Squeeze? I've tried variations of
 aptitude install -t wheezy virtinst
 and
 aptitude install virtinst/wheezy
 
 but with no joy, It goes through the start process but says there's
 nothing to update or upgrade
 Thanks,
 James

You need to have some repo defined under /etc/apt/sources.list{,d/}
such as your query works.

I usually have the precompiled binaries in one repo and the sources 
in another, to ease backporting:

deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
El 2012-05-01 a las 11:04 -0500, Indulekha escribió:

(sending back to the list)

 On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 11:27:06AM +, Camaleón wrote:
  
  Maybe is that I missed something but AFAIK, Debian does not have a 
  mail2news gateway, at least nothing that's official. What people do to 
  read the mailing lists from a newsreader is using a NNTP server or using 
  Google Groups (which I don't recommend). 
 
 
 Apparently you don't have nntp access to actual usenet then?
 There is def a newsgroup, linux.debian.user, which is on usenet.
 It uses a mail2news gateway to duplicate this list, and it's 
 what I was using to read it. Someone thought it would be a good idea 
 to have cutesy headers, which break threading if you reply to this list 
 via that group. As I'd actually read this group there for over a year 
 before attempting to reply, that annoyed the living hell out of me.

Is not that... yes, I'm using linux.debian.user but what happens is 
that Debian mailing lists are, well, mailing lists, there's no native 
NNTP server managing the posts, they have to be converted from/to 
e-mail/news so what we (you and me) are using is more like an hybrid, 
in the end whatever handles the posts have to talk with a mailing list 
server software, not a news server and here is where the mess starts 
;-)
 
  Setting up Gmane (or another news server) is plain easy, I mean, for the 
  client side. Another thing would be you have to configure you own nntp 
  server as a local cache but that's another story...
 
 
 Been using news.individual.net for years now, at times with leafnode. 
 The issue is let usenet work as it always did.
 I fondly remember the days when usenet was actually informative and 
 useful. Yes, I'm old and sometimes quite cranky...
 :)

I did not use Usenet, I started at the times of IRC and then mailing 
lists and forums but after having used both systems (nntp and mailing 
lists) I still consider the former a must for todays one-to-many 
communication system.

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread David Sastre Medina
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 11:18:14AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:17:46 +0100, Brian wrote:
  On Mon 30 Apr 2012 at 20:28:24 +, Camaleón wrote:
  On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:28:30 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
  
   Well, side-stepped, or buried, not really solved.   :-)
  Yup, but what could I do? The annoying posts are not reaching the list
  neither Gmane's archive so... what do you suggest? I'm all ears O:-)
  A first step is to determine where the mails originate from. It's the
  only data you have.
 E-mail headers say not much (see the link). At least seems to come from a 
 genuine Gmail account:
 
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Lz8eFuTe
 
 X-Mailer and Message-Id gives some clues about the origin but nothing 
 on why I/we get the posts :-?

I have received spam from that joe1 also.
I'm using the ML directly.
This was triggered answering to a post titled Installing packages
from Wheezy in Squeeze.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/05/msg00067.html

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Indulekha
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 06:31:01PM +0200, Camaleón wrote:
 El 2012-05-01 a las 11:04 -0500, Indulekha escribió:
 
 (sending back to the list)
 
  On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 11:27:06AM +, Camaleón wrote:
   
   Maybe is that I missed something but AFAIK, Debian does not have a 
   mail2news gateway, at least nothing that's official. What people do to 
   read the mailing lists from a newsreader is using a NNTP server or using 
   Google Groups (which I don't recommend). 
  
  
  Apparently you don't have nntp access to actual usenet then?
  There is def a newsgroup, linux.debian.user, which is on usenet.
  It uses a mail2news gateway to duplicate this list, and it's 
  what I was using to read it. Someone thought it would be a good idea 
  to have cutesy headers, which break threading if you reply to this list 
  via that group. As I'd actually read this group there for over a year 
  before attempting to reply, that annoyed the living hell out of me.
 
 Is not that... yes, I'm using linux.debian.user but what happens is 
 that Debian mailing lists are, well, mailing lists, there's no native 
 NNTP server managing the posts, they have to be converted from/to 
 e-mail/news so what we (you and me) are using is more like an hybrid, 
 in the end whatever handles the posts have to talk with a mailing list 
 server software, not a news server and here is where the mess starts 
 ;-)


Well, the mail2news gateway does record the original headers before 
it cluelessly discards them, so it should be trivial to preserve them 
to be used appropriately for the sake of interoperability. It's quite 
annoying when people do things *almost* correctly for year after year 
when it's trivial to just do it correctly. Also, there were many other 
factors involved yesterday, so it was the wrong day for me to have to 
redo things I'd thought were already solved and I got a bit pissy over it. 

   Setting up Gmane (or another news server) is plain easy, I mean, for the 
   client side. Another thing would be you have to configure you own nntp 
   server as a local cache but that's another story...
  
  
  Been using news.individual.net for years now, at times with leafnode. 
  The issue is let usenet work as it always did.
  I fondly remember the days when usenet was actually informative and 
  useful. Yes, I'm old and sometimes quite cranky...
  :)
 
 I did not use Usenet, I started at the times of IRC and then mailing 
 lists and forums but after having used both systems (nntp and mailing 
 lists) I still consider the former a must for todays one-to-many 
 communication system.


Well, I miss the usenet we once had.
In fact, there's not much reason left for me to renew my 
news.individual.net account in June and I doubt I will. 
The skriptkidz, spammers, and trolls have about driven 
everything useful away. They weren't kidding about the 
Eternal September!

Oh well, here comes the future...
I notice as I age it takes a bit more work to keep a clean 
slate and open mind. Worth the effort, though. :)
 
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Re: W: best way to clone server data using rsync

2012-05-01 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 01:08:14PM +0200, Tuxoholic wrote:
 Here's what I got so far from google research:
 
 rsync --sockopts=SO_SNDBUF=128000,SO_RCVBUF=128000 -e rsh --archive \
 --recursive --partial --partial-dir=rsync-part --progress --append \
 --files-from=/root/LISTOFFILES.txt --log-file=/root/rsync.log \
 root@myserver:/PATH2myOLDServerPool/* /mnt/Mount2myNewServerPool

You don't need the sockopts. -a includes recursive. You probably
don't want partial or partial-dir. You probably don't want
append.

Having rsh installed is a bad security risk. Install ssh, make
sure you can ssh from this box to myserver as root. Change 
-e rsh to -e ssh. 

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ping: slow with low latency?

2012-05-01 Thread green
I have a strange networking problem.  There is something wrong between my 
host (Debian wheezy) and a VPS (Debian squeeze).  Everything has been working 
great until approximately yesterday; now ssh connections only work for a 
short time.  I have reduced to minimal firewalls on both systems, and another 
host on the same local network works fine.  The most obvious symptom is this 
(domains and IPs redacted):


$ time ping -c1 vps-fqdn
PING vps-fqdn (64.n.n.n) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 64.n.n.n: icmp_req=1 ttl=43 time=60.1 ms

--- vps-fqdn ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 60.156/60.156/60.156/0.000 ms

real0m5.145s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s


Why does it take 5 seconds to receive a 60 ms ping reply?  Also, if I hit ^C 
quickly:


time ping -c1 vps-fqdn
PING vps-fqdn (64.n.n.n) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C64 bytes from 64.n.n.n: icmp_req=1 ttl=43 time=51.6 ms

--- vps-fqdn ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 51.611/51.611/51.611/0.000 ms

real0m0.300s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s


Why does ping not display the ping-reply immediately and exit?

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Brian
On Tue 01 May 2012 at 11:18:14 +, Camaleón wrote:

 E-mail headers say not much (see the link). At least seems to come from a 
 genuine Gmail account:
 
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Lz8eFuTe
 
 X-Mailer and Message-Id gives some clues about the origin but nothing 
 on why I/we get the posts :-?

We'll assume the mail is a genuine one.

   X-Mailer: Assistly Support Platform
   Message-Id: 4f9d2b545f243_7dd5105746c...@portal.joegiglio.org
   From: debian-user@lists.debian.org joe1assis...@gmail.com
   Return-Path: joe1assis...@gmail.com

These point to desk.com and/or assistly.com as being the origin. Seems
a respectable enough business,

   Received: from smtp.gmail.com  \
 (ec2-174-129-125-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com. \
 [174.129.125.98])

Gmail received the mail from a cloud-based machine

   Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain \
   of joe1assis...@gmail.com designates\
   209.85.220.182 as permitted sender)

and is happy enough with it to use one of its machines to pass it on to
your account.

I do not understand why Subject: is different from the

   Re: Install a package from testing?

in your mail at

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01825.html

Also

   In-Reply-To: jnj9us$5ol$6...@dough.gmane.org

is puzzling because this is the Message-id: for msg01825.


Now for dates and times (taken from gmane) of the four posts in that
thread:

   Nick Meyers  2012-04-28 22:19:58 GMT
   Chris Knadle 2012-04-28 22:56:41 GMT
   Camaleón 2012-04-29 11:20:23 GMT
   Camaleón 2012-04-29 11:50:52 GMT 

In the body of the fourth post is

Apr 29, 2012 11:21AM UTC

which presumably is the time at which joe1assistly claimed to receive
the mail. This is about a minute after the third post in the thread.


We can do a check with

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01793.html

where the date/time given in the body of the post is

Apr 28, 2012 10:08AM UTC

The second post in the same thread was made at

2012-04-28 10:07:31 GMT

Coincidence? I'd be looking at something happening in the interaction
between the poster and gmane.


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Re: cpu frequency management opteron lost?

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 01 May 2012 16:30:12 +0200, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:

 I used to have my CPU frequency scaled back to 1000 Mz (from 2200 MHz)
 which I could see in my Gnome2 applet.
 
 1. Is there an application with which I can check the actual speed? 

cpufreq-info -e

 2. Can I manage the speed?

Mmm... yes.

 3. If so, how?
 
cpufreq-set

 Running /etc/init.d/cpufreqd start just reports: 
 panoramix:/home/jkr# /etc/init.d/cpufreqd start 
 Starting CPU Frequency daemon: cpufreqd failed!

I don't seem to have that service (in lenny and wheezy I've got 
cpufrequtils instead) but if I were you, I'd take a look into these two 
files:

/usr/share/doc/cpufreqd/README.Debian
/etc/default/cpufreqd

Maybe is that you need to configure something :-?

 I have looked at the output of cpufreqd -D -V 7 but that did not help.
 
 cpufreq-utils:
 panoramix:/home/jkr# cpufreq-info
 cpufrequtils 007: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009 Report
 errors and bugs to cpuf...@vger.kernel.org, please. analyzing 
 CPU 0:   no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU 
   

(...)

This can give you some clue. 

 lsmod:
 panoramix:/home/jkr# lsmod | grep cpu 
 cpufreq_userspace  12576  0
 cpufreq_conservative13147  0
 cpufreq_stats  12866  0
 cpufreq_powersave  12454  0

I can't see acpi_cpufreq loaded... hum, wait, for AMD should be 
powernow-k8 insetad, right? Is it loaded?

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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Tue, 01 May 2012 16:16:07 +, Camaleón wrote:

 Can you recommend something better?
 It was very nice because it's quite cheap and I don't need a hardware
 raid card.
 
 Cheap and nice do not usually came together, or to put it well,
 cheap and good performance do not usually match :-)
 
 What kind of hardware do you have (motherboard brand and model) and what
 kind of hard disk controller do you need, what are your expectations?
 
 SuperMicro boards (I'm also a SuperMicro user) are usually good enough
 to use their embedded SAS/SATA ports, at least if you want to use a
 software raid solution :-?

I have a Supermicro C7P67 board. But there aren't any SAS connectors 
there.

This is a home media server. Earlier I used a debian box with a raid and 
a disk for mythtv recordings. But I ran out of space and resurrected an 
ReadyNas NV+. But this was so slow and I wanted to have everything 
centralized. So I was looking for something else and found this case:

http://cybershop.ri-vier.nl/4u-rackmnt-server-case-w20-hotswap-satasas-
drv-bays-rpc4220-p-18.html

They also had that SAS controller and on the Supermicro website they 
wrote it would be SUSE and Red Hat compatible. So I thought it runs too 
under Debian.

So performance isn't very important. But I don't know what exactly you 
mean by expectations. The controller should give access to the disks. 
They will mostly be slow green drives. It's not even a very big problem 
if it's limited to 3 TB but of course it would be nice if I could also go 
bigger in some years when I run out of space again and want to add 
another raid.

So the media server contains one analogue PCI tuner card (PVR-500) and 
one (maybe in future a second one will be added) TeVii (S480) sat tuner 
card.

Now I have one 500 GB disk as system drive but I'm thinking of adding 
another one as RAID1.
With the 20 hot swap slots in the case, the two system drives and an 
optical drive I need 23 sata connectors. Or better four SAS connectors 
and the eight SATA ports on the mainboard.

I think software raid will cause me less cost and problem because when 
the controller fails I can replace it by anything that can talk SAS?



 And I can access the disks. Create an ext3 and ext4 filesystem on
 them seperately. But they don't like be be in the raid.
 
 When the system crashed I got this dmesg but I can't find anything in
 there:
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZFdkcS8p
 
 There are some interesting entries there:
 
 [   12.028337] md: md1 stopped.
 (...)
 [   12.035275] raid5: raid level 5 set md1 active with 2 out of 3
 devices, algorithm 2
 
 Those are related to md1 and your raid5 volume.
 
 And this looks ok or is there a problem?
 
 Well, I'm not familiar with MD (I use hardware raid) but md1 stopped
 and raid 5 with only 2 elements in the array does not sound very good
 ;-(

Ah, yes you're right :-o

Was this during bootup? I recreated the array again after bootup...



 On the screen I saw this:
 http://666k.com/u.php
 (Sorry it's a photograph)
 
 I can't load the image :-?
 
 Sorry I posted the wrong link. This one should work:
 
 http://666kb.com/i/c3f6nbmalagytqujw.jpg
 
 Ugh... and when is that happening, I mean, that I/O error? At install
 time, when partitioning, after the first boot?

This usually happens when I tried to create the filesystem on the raid 
array by

sudo mkfs.ext4 -c -L test-device-1 /dev/md1

And when I then want to see details about the array (sudo mdadm --detail /
dev/md1) the system crashes and I get the I/O error.

This causes so much problem that I wasn't able to repair it when it 
happened the first time (afterwards I had nothing to recover ;-) ).

I posted it here:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01290.html


 What else can I do?
 
 I would report it, although I'm afraid this is a well-known issue.
 
 Where should I report it?
 
 I would try firt in Debian BTS, against the kernel package.
 
 I've written a mail to Supermicro. Should I also create a Debian bug
 report?
 
 Yup, tough I think it will be forwarded upstream.

Thanks I will run reportbug.

But in the meantime I have installed the bpo kernel and it seems to be 
working now...
At least it never run the disk check for so long, the raid is rebuilding 
and I can see the details as much as I want...



 Sadly, Supermicro does not build binaries for Debian/Ubuntu but maybe
 you can ask them for the sources to compile the driver by your own.
 
 I found this pages:
 
 ftp://ftp.supermicro.nl/driver/SAS/Marvell/MV8/SAS1/Driver/
Linux/3.1.0.7/
 
 But it doesn't seem as if it's what I need.
 
 Mmm, your addon card is based on Marvell 6480 chipset, those packages
 are for Marvell Odin(88SE64xx) as the README file says. Maybe you need
 to look here, instead:
 
 ftp://ftp.supermicro.nl/driver/SAS/Marvell/MV8/SAS2/
 
 But it doesn't matter because these are also rpm based packages.
 
 And the supermicro support sent me the link to this zip file:
 
 

Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

2012-05-01 Thread Ellwood Blues
2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de:
 Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Ellwood Blues:
 2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de:
  Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister:
  On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
   Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to the
   OS they have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those should
   work. But with 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit when you
   use MBR partitioning.
  
   3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and software
   (logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new enough.
  
   On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage).
 
  Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your post)
  which command requires the additional options: -cu. Which manpage?
 
  fdisk. Sorry if I didn´t mention it anywhere in my post.

 Thanks, I've tried everything but not success. The problem is that the
 disk is already half full and aligned with WD tools. I am just waiting
 for linux to be able to read it and write it as efficiently as Windows
 does it, at the moment I am not able to read it, which is very
 frustrating.

 I would like to see some information from the disk, like

 - relevant stuff from hdparm -I /dev/yourdisk (feel free to skip serial
 number if you do not want to post it here)
 - fdisk -cul /dev/yourdisk
 - tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog / dmesg when the kernel detects the disk

 for starters.

 You need to use GPT if the disk reports 512 byte sectors to the OS. Thats
 no problem, when its just a data disk. Try gdisk on the disk.

Thanks. I can't do it right now. I think tomorrow I'll send what you want.


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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Tue, 01 May 2012 10:57:47 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 On 5/1/2012 6:53 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I'm using Debian Squeeze and would like to use a Supermicro
 AOC-SASLP-MV8 as controller for a software raid.
 
 The mvsas Linux driver has never been ready for production, unless
 things have dramatically changed very recently.  The AOC-SASLP-MV8 will
 work fine on a MS Windows machine, but you will continue to suffer many
 nightmares with Linux.  Google for the mvsas horror stories.
 
 What else can I do?
 
 Ebay that card and acquire one that will simply work:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118112 This LSI
 card supports 6Gb SAS/SATA3 and 3TB+ drives.

Thanks alot!


 If you have x4 PCIe slots but not x8/x16, then get the Intel card:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117141

Nono, I have enough x16 slots. The x4 slots aren't enough.


 
 People buy this SM card because it's the cheapest thing on the planet
 with 2xSFF8087 ports (without first looking up its reputation).  If the
 dual SFF8087 cards above are beyond your budget, go with 2 Silicon Image
 based 4 port cards with plain SATA connectors:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124027
 
 If you don't have a backplane with SFF8087 connectors, simply use 4
 regular SATA cables with the SiI cards.  If you do have a backplane, buy
 2 new 4 port SATA to SFF8087 2ft reverse breakout cables:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116101
 
 The LSI card is $239, will give far superior performance, and will work
 with your current cables.  The 2xSiI cards is $120, $154 w/cables.
 Either have great Linux compatibility.

Thanks you very much!!!

I have the RPC-4220 case with 20 howswap slots. So I can only go for the 
LSI card. But when this means no more such problems I'm more than 
happy :-)


Thanks again!



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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 01 May 2012 12:05:42 -0500, Indulekha wrote:

 On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 06:31:01PM +0200, Camaleón wrote:

  Apparently you don't have nntp access to actual usenet then? There is
  def a newsgroup, linux.debian.user, which is on usenet. It uses a
  mail2news gateway to duplicate this list, and it's what I was using
  to read it. Someone thought it would be a good idea to have cutesy
  headers, which break threading if you reply to this list via that
  group. As I'd actually read this group there for over a year before
  attempting to reply, that annoyed the living hell out of me.
 
 Is not that... yes, I'm using linux.debian.user but what happens is
 that Debian mailing lists are, well, mailing lists, there's no native
 NNTP server managing the posts, they have to be converted from/to
 e-mail/news so what we (you and me) are using is more like an hybrid,
 in the end whatever handles the posts have to talk with a mailing list
 server software, not a news server and here is where the mess starts
 ;-)


 Well, the mail2news gateway does record the original headers before it
 cluelessly discards them, so it should be trivial to preserve them to be
 used appropriately for the sake of interoperability. It's quite annoying
 when people do things *almost* correctly for year after year when it's
 trivial to just do it correctly. Also, there were many other factors
 involved yesterday, so it was the wrong day for me to have to redo
 things I'd thought were already solved and I got a bit pissy over it.

Blame your mail2news gateway provider then. I don't experience that 
problem with Gmane :-)

  Been using news.individual.net for years now, at times with leafnode.
  The issue is let usenet work as it always did. I fondly remember
  the days when usenet was actually informative and useful. Yes, I'm
  old and sometimes quite cranky... :)
 
 I did not use Usenet, I started at the times of IRC and then mailing
 lists and forums but after having used both systems (nntp and mailing
 lists) I still consider the former a must for todays one-to-many
 communication system.


 Well, I miss the usenet we once had.
 In fact, there's not much reason left for me to renew my
 news.individual.net account in June and I doubt I will. The skriptkidz,
 spammers, and trolls have about driven everything useful away. They
 weren't kidding about the Eternal September!

Gmane also does a good job when it comes to block the spam it reaches the 
lists. Oh, oh... now I feel like a human-advertising :-P
 
 Oh well, here comes the future...
 I notice as I age it takes a bit more work to keep a clean slate and
 open mind. Worth the effort, though. :)

And I can't but concur with that perception.

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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-01 Thread Ramon Hofer
Sorry I hit ctrl + enter or something and the message went out...

On Tue, 01 May 2012 17:29:17 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 But I'm confused about the two different versions too. lspci shows:

01:00.0 RAID bus controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 
MV64460/64461/64462 System Controller, Revision B (rev 01)



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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 01 May 2012 18:21:47 +0100, Brian wrote:

 On Tue 01 May 2012 at 11:18:14 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 E-mail headers say not much (see the link). At least seems to come from
 a genuine Gmail account:
 
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Lz8eFuTe
 
 X-Mailer and Message-Id gives some clues about the origin but
 nothing on why I/we get the posts :-?
 
 We'll assume the mail is a genuine one.

(...)

Yeah, I share that feeling too.

 I do not understand why Subject: is different from the
 
Re: Install a package from testing?
 
 in your mail at
 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01825.html
 
 Also
 
In-Reply-To: jnj9us$5ol$6...@dough.gmane.org
 
 is puzzling because this is the Message-id: for msg01825.

Well, joe1 was replying to this message:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01825.html

Which matches with the Subject we can see in the headers of the pastebin:

Subject: 
=?utf-8?Q?Re=3A_=5BOT=5D_Mails_coming_from_=22joe=31assistly=40gmail=2Ecom=22_=28was=3A_Install_a=09package_from_testing=3F=29?=
 

 Now for dates and times (taken from gmane) of the four posts in that
 thread:

(...)

 Coincidence? I'd be looking at something happening in the interaction
 between the poster and gmane.

I can't really tell. It seems that other posters who don't use Gmane are 
also receiving the messages. 

Well, thanks a bunch for your detailed analysis, much appreciated :-)

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Re: Install a package from testing?

2012-05-01 Thread keith
On Tue, 1 May 2012 11:17:57 -0500
Nick Meyers mysqluser...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
 Yuck, I'm not sure I can turn html off from the hotmail interface. I use 
 hotmail for stuff like this for the sake of safety. FWIW, I do have html 
 disabled by default on Icedove, but I don't have this email account tied to 
 that, so I have to use the web interface. I will ry to figure that out, but 
 in the meantime I'll abstain from posting again, and...
 
No need to abstain from posting; go into Hotmail - 'New' - (3rd item along, 
after 'Send'  'Save draft') change to 'Plain text'.

(You can also get your mail via a good email program such as Icedove or 
Sylpheed) 


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Indulekha
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:39:15PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Blame your mail2news gateway provider then. I don't experience that 
 problem with Gmane :-)
 
 Gmane also does a good job when it comes to block the spam it reaches the 
 lists. Oh, oh... now I feel like a human-advertising :-P
  

Yes, it's having an effect...
So, do you run leafnode and point it at nntp://news.gmane.org then?

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Brian
On Tue 01 May 2012 at 19:02:57 +0200, David Sastre Medina wrote:

 I have received spam from that joe1 also.

You wouldn't happen to still have, would you?


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Re: cpu frequency management opteron lost?

2012-05-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I'm a pro-audio Linux user. CPU freq scaling is important for me.

Debian has a script that runs on startup, it will force ondemand. I
don't remember the location, but it must be some rc.

On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 17:29 +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Tue, 01 May 2012 16:30:12 +0200, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:
 
  I used to have my CPU frequency scaled back to 1000 Mz (from 2200 MHz)
  which I could see in my Gnome2 applet.
  
  1. Is there an application with which I can check the actual speed? 
 
 cpufreq-info -e

hwinfo

  2. Can I manage the speed?
 
 Mmm... yes.

Mmm... yes too.

  3. If so, how?
  
 cpufreq-set
 
  Running /etc/init.d/cpufreqd start just reports: 
  panoramix:/home/jkr# /etc/init.d/cpufreqd start 
  Starting CPU Frequency daemon: cpufreqd failed!
 
 I don't seem to have that service (in lenny and wheezy I've got 
 cpufrequtils instead) but if I were you, I'd take a look into these two 
 files:
 
 /usr/share/doc/cpufreqd/README.Debian
 /etc/default/cpufreqd
 
 Maybe is that you need to configure something :-?
 
  I have looked at the output of cpufreqd -D -V 7 but that did not help.
  
  cpufreq-utils:
  panoramix:/home/jkr# cpufreq-info
  cpufrequtils 007: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009 Report
  errors and bugs to cpuf...@vger.kernel.org, please. analyzing 
  CPU 0:   no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU 

 
 (...)
 
 This can give you some clue. 
 
  lsmod:
  panoramix:/home/jkr# lsmod | grep cpu 
  cpufreq_userspace  12576  0
  cpufreq_conservative13147  0
  cpufreq_stats  12866  0
  cpufreq_powersave  12454  0
 
 I can't see acpi_cpufreq loaded... hum, wait, for AMD should be 
 powernow-k8 insetad, right? Is it loaded?
 
 Greetings,

Hmm? What kernel do you use. The config of the kernel is important.
As superuser run
grep CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV /boot/config-$(uname -r)
;)
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/dev/vbi0 is missing

2012-05-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi List,

since almost a week I got the problem, that I cannot watch TV on my systems. 
This is with a BTTV-card as well as with an usb-dvb-t adapter.

Both worked fine before.

I think, the reason is  a missing /dev/vbi link, which should be created by 
udev. I am not very experienced with /dev/symlinks, but alli can say is, that 
MAKEDEV could not help. I tried also to add a device link, but this did not 
work for me.

As this problem appeared on several systems at the same time, I suppose, it is 
a bug.

I tried kaffeine, Me-tv, zapping and xawtv with no success.
For me-tv I can say, I get a video, but cannot switch to any other program 
then the running one. Also hovering the mouse over me-tv let the mouse-pointer 
disappear (which might not be important at the moment).

Can I test something else?

Best regards

Hans 


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Re: http://cdimage.debian.org/*-update-*.jigdo images?

2012-05-01 Thread David Christensen

On 05/01/2012 02:33 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote:

http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#update-cd


Thanks!  :-)


David


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Brian
On Tue 01 May 2012 at 17:52:50 +, Camaleón wrote:

 On Tue, 01 May 2012 18:21:47 +0100, Brian wrote:
 
  I do not understand why Subject: is different from the
  
 Re: Install a package from testing?
  
  in your mail at
  
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01825.html
  
  Also
  
 In-Reply-To: jnj9us$5ol$6...@dough.gmane.org
  
  is puzzling because this is the Message-id: for msg01825.
 
 Well, joe1 was replying to this message:

joe1assistly, surely? You received the mail a minute afterwards because
of your posting through gmane. I imagine you will have sufficient other
examples to be able to check on a pattern.

[Snip] 

  Now for dates and times (taken from gmane) of the four posts in that
  thread:
 
 (...)
 
  Coincidence? I'd be looking at something happening in the interaction
  between the poster and gmane.
 
 I can't really tell.

Classic fence-sitting. :)

 It seems that other posters who don't use Gmane are also receiving the
 messages. 

Let them post the headers and bodies then. Whatever is happening at gmane
I think we can be certain the mails you got (and are still getting?) are
not from other users on this list.


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Re: ping: slow with low latency?

2012-05-01 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello,

green a écrit :
 
 $ time ping -c1 vps-fqdn
 PING vps-fqdn (64.n.n.n) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 64.n.n.n: icmp_req=1 ttl=43 time=60.1 ms
 
 --- vps-fqdn ping statistics ---
 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 60.156/60.156/60.156/0.000 ms
 
 real  0m5.145s
 user  0m0.000s
 sys   0m0.000s
 
 
 Why does it take 5 seconds to receive a 60 ms ping reply?

Probably because of the reverse DNS resolution which timed-out.
Try ping -n to avoid reverse DNS resolution.
Also try to reverse resolve 64.n.n.n with {dig,host,nslookup} and see
what happens.


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Problem with libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0

2012-05-01 Thread Riley Paxton
Hello,

I'm not sure if I should file a bug report, but I've been reading that
there may be an error regarding an out-of-date glibc2 or its
associated libraries, or even some GTK+ libaraies. I'm not sure.

It's been a while since I've updated testing, so this may be due to my
neglegence of consistantly updating and upgrading. I hope someone
knows how to resolve the followiung problem.

I get this error message when running urxvt, vi, and many various
other utilities:
PROGRAM PATH/NAME: symbol lookup error:
/usr/lib/x86-64-linux-gnu/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol:
g_bytes_unref

And it fails to launch. So X server still works, just some other
utilities relying on this libgdk_pixbuf plugin won't work, I guess.

I'm not sure how to try glibc2 from unstable yet--I'm not sure if I
add an entry in the sources.list before or after the testing entires,
and then reconfigure APT to pull from the unstable target. I'm not
sure if trying that will will be worth the risk of possibly breaking
many packages.

I believe there isn't going to need to be some crazy fix for it, so I
hope anyone can give some insight!

My uname -a:
Linux pc-main 3.2.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Apr 15 16:47:38 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

And now I notice my clock is off by 16 days... But I use NTP, so, no matter.


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread David Sastre Medina
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 07:01:08PM +0100, Brian wrote:
 On Tue 01 May 2012 at 19:02:57 +0200, David Sastre Medina wrote:
 
  I have received spam from that joe1 also.
 
 You wouldn't happen to still have, would you?

You mean if I still have a copy of the mail?

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Brian
On Tue 01 May 2012 at 20:50:14 +0200, David Sastre Medina wrote:

 On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 07:01:08PM +0100, Brian wrote:
  On Tue 01 May 2012 at 19:02:57 +0200, David Sastre Medina wrote:
  
   I have received spam from that joe1 also.
  
  You wouldn't happen to still have, would you?
 
 You mean if I still have a copy of the mail?

Indeed I did. Leaving out 'it' was unintentional.


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread David Sastre Medina
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 07:53:15PM +0100, Brian wrote:
 On Tue 01 May 2012 at 20:50:14 +0200, David Sastre Medina wrote:
 
  On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 07:01:08PM +0100, Brian wrote:
   On Tue 01 May 2012 at 19:02:57 +0200, David Sastre Medina wrote:
   
I have received spam from that joe1 also.
   
   You wouldn't happen to still have, would you?
  
  You mean if I still have a copy of the mail?
 
 Indeed I did. Leaving out 'it' was unintentional.

You'll have to excuse me, English is not my mother language, and I was
unsure of the exact meaning of the question.
Regarding the mail, I do have a copy, would you want me to send it to
you off-list?

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Brian
On Tue 01 May 2012 at 21:04:33 +0200, David Sastre Medina wrote:

 You'll have to excuse me, English is not my mother language, and I was
 unsure of the exact meaning of the question.

No problem; my fault in not being careful.

 Regarding the mail, I do have a copy, would you want me to send it to
 you off-list?

No, please post it to the list. The body and *all* the headers. I cannot
advise you how to get all the headers because I'm not familiar with all
mail software.


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ls sorting order change

2012-05-01 Thread Dan B.

What controls the order that the ls command uses for sorting names?


On a fresh Squeeze installation, ls seems to ignore leading .
characters (it no longer lists all hidden files adjacent to each
other) and to ignore capitalization differences.

It used to sort in standard/traditional Unix order (not ignoring any
characters, and ordering by order of characters in ASCII/etc. (as
opposed to by case-insensitive alphabetical order)).


What controls ls's sorting order?

I haven't set any locale environment variable specifically for the
collation order, but I don't know what base LANG=en_US.UTF-8 setting
does.  Does en_US imply that new sorting order?


How do I tell ls to work the way I've seen it work for decades?


Thanks,
Daniel







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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread Brian
On Tue 01 May 2012 at 20:12:19 +0100, Brian wrote:

 I cannot
 advise you how to get all the headers because I'm not familiar with all
 mail software.

Of course I can! You are using mutt. Hit the 'h' key.


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Re: Problem with libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0

2012-05-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-01 20:42 +0200, Riley Paxton wrote:

 I'm not sure if I should file a bug report, but I've been reading that
 there may be an error regarding an out-of-date glibc2 or its
 associated libraries, or even some GTK+ libaraies. I'm not sure.

 It's been a while since I've updated testing, so this may be due to my
 neglegence of consistantly updating and upgrading. I hope someone
 knows how to resolve the followiung problem.

 I get this error message when running urxvt, vi, and many various
 other utilities:
 PROGRAM PATH/NAME: symbol lookup error:
 /usr/lib/x86-64-linux-gnu/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol:
 g_bytes_unref

This could be because the system libglib2.0 is too old (unlikely, since
the dependencies of libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 seem to prevent that), or because
you have an older copy of libglib-2.0.so.0 somewhere, e.g. in
/usr/local/lib.  What does
ldd /usr/lib/x86-64-linux-gnu/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 print?

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: cpu frequency management opteron lost?

2012-05-01 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
On di, 2012-05-01 at 17:29 +, Camaleón wrote: 
 On Tue, 01 May 2012 16:30:12 +0200, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:
 
  I used to have my CPU frequency scaled back to 1000 Mz (from 2200 MHz)
  which I could see in my Gnome2 applet.
  
  1. Is there an application with which I can check the actual speed? 
 
 cpufreq-info -e
panoramix:~# cpufreq-info -e
cpufrequtils 007: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009
Report errors and bugs to cpuf...@vger.kernel.org, please.
analyzing CPU 0:
  no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
analyzing CPU 1:
  no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.

 
  lsmod:
  panoramix:/home/jkr# lsmod | grep cpu 
  cpufreq_userspace  12576  0
  cpufreq_conservative13147  0
  cpufreq_stats  12866  0
  cpufreq_powersave  12454  0
 
 I can't see acpi_cpufreq loaded... hum, wait, for AMD should be 
 powernow-k8 insetad, right? Is it loaded?
Not according to lsmod. Loading it manually gives: 
modprobe -vv powernow-k8
insmod /lib/modules/3.2.0-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko 
libkmod: INFO ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:829 kmod_module_insert_module: Failed 
to insert module 
'/lib/modules/3.2.0-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko': No such 
device
ERROR: could not insert 'powernow_k8': No such device
libkmod: INFO ../libkmod/libkmod.c:319 kmod_unref: context 0x7f9a84800210 
released

It could be that something changed, but with kernel  3.0 it worked!?  

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Re: cpu frequency management opteron lost?

2012-05-01 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
On di, 2012-05-01 at 19:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: 
 I'm a pro-audio Linux user. CPU freq scaling is important for me.
 
 Debian has a script that runs on startup, it will force ondemand. I
 don't remember the location, but it must be some rc.
If you remember, please let me know. I really would appreciate that.

 Hmm? What kernel do you use. The config of the kernel is important.
 As superuser run
 grep CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV /boot/config-$(uname -r)
3.2.0

panoramix:~# grep CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV /boot/config-$(uname -r)
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE=m
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=m
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_CONSERVATIVE=m

Doe this say anything to you?

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-01 Thread David Sastre Medina
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 08:15:50PM +0100, Brian wrote:
 On Tue 01 May 2012 at 20:12:19 +0100, Brian wrote:
 
I cannot
  advise you how to get all the headers because I'm not familiar with all
  mail software.
 Of course I can! You are using mutt. Hit the 'h' key.

Here you have: (opening and closing ascii-scissors are mine)

88888888

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Re: ls sorting order change

2012-05-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-01 21:10 +0200, Dan B. wrote:

 What controls the order that the ls command uses for sorting names?

The locale or more specifically, the LC_COLLATE setting.  See locale(7).

 On a fresh Squeeze installation, ls seems to ignore leading .
 characters (it no longer lists all hidden files adjacent to each
 other) and to ignore capitalization differences.

 It used to sort in standard/traditional Unix order (not ignoring any
 characters, and ordering by order of characters in ASCII/etc. (as
 opposed to by case-insensitive alphabetical order)).

This behavior is not new, but your locale settings may be.

 What controls ls's sorting order?

 I haven't set any locale environment variable specifically for the
 collation order, but I don't know what base LANG=en_US.UTF-8 setting
 does.  Does en_US imply that new sorting order?

Yes.  Unless you override it with a different LC_COLLATE setting, that
is.

 How do I tell ls to work the way I've seen it work for decades?

I've been using LC_COLLATE=C for many years.

Cheers,
   Sven


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