Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Weaver
On Wed, September 12, 2012 7:57 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 19:30 -0700, Weaver wrote: >> first I will have to find an old drive and do an install >> to see exactly what is needed > > Or you use VirtualBox to see it. No, I have to do an install for somebody anyway. Regards, W

Re: deprecated (Re: What Version To Install On iMac?)

2012-09-12 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/12/2012 6:44 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:26:09PM +0200, lee wrote: Are you saying it's not possible to say that "the administrator installed disapproved software" because "disapproved" cannot be used as an adjective? Yes I would say, in American English* "the a

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 19:30 -0700, Weaver wrote: > first I will have to find an old drive and do an install > to see exactly what is needed Or you use VirtualBox to see it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listma

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Weaver
On Wed, September 12, 2012 8:40 am, lee wrote: > "Weaver" writes: > >> I wouldn't classify partitioning as a 'tiny little detail.' > > It is one of the many tiny little steps the installer does. Agreed. Many of the steps in the installer are tiny, but I wouldn't classify partitioning or choosing

Re: deprecated (Re: What Version To Install On iMac?)

2012-09-12 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 07:44:03 PM Chris Bannister wrote: > > How do you call it when software or an administrator is being > > deprecated, i. e. the process of deprecating something/making something > > I can only think of the word "redundant" (surplus to requirements) at > the moment.

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Weaver
On Wed, September 12, 2012 8:45 am, lee wrote: > "Weaver" writes: > >> On Tue, September 11, 2012 7:43 am, lee wrote: >>> "Weaver" writes: >>> On Mon, September 10, 2012 8:19 am, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Agreed. But the person who wants to install Debian is not the average > e

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Weaver
On Wed, September 12, 2012 7:08 am, The Wanderer wrote: > On 09/12/2012 09:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Mi, 12 sep 12, 08:57:37, The Wanderer wrote: >> >>> Admittedly, not presenting the user with such a prompt at all would be >>> less >>> off-putting than either, but we may not be able t

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:38:01 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 16:12 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:05:48 +0200 > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Even if you install all codecs that are available for Linux, you are not > > > able to join every video from the Interne

Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications

2012-09-12 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Wednesday 12 September 2012 19:04:55 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 18:45 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 September 2012 16:52:06 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Make sure you have the guest additions installed. > > > > Thank you for your note. Indeed, I do have th

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Weaver
On Tue, September 11, 2012 11:22 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 11 sep 12, 14:47:57, Weaver wrote: >> >> There is a stage where the installer asks for contrib and non-free apt >> list inclusions. > > Only for expert installs AFAIK. Ah yes, that's right! > >> It would probably be best to inco

Re: [OT] How to redirect input/output to another console?

2012-09-12 Thread Alex Robbins
On 09/11/2012 06:02 PM, lee wrote: Alex Robbins writes: That said, I started with screen and then switched to tmux, which is an actively developed rewrite of screen (and is BSD licensed). It has many technical and objective improvements over screen, and, additionally, it has proven a much bet

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Weaver
On Tue, September 11, 2012 11:07 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 11 sep 12, 12:29:42, Weaver wrote: >> >> I am advocating the elimination of that lack of knowledge. > > You are assuming the user is interested in learning. In my experience it > is rather the contrary. And I think choice is what

Re: deprecated (Re: What Version To Install On iMac?)

2012-09-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:26:09PM +0200, lee wrote: > "The administrator installed disapproved software. Since then, many No. That would have got you a smack over the hand with a ruler. :) > users have had trouble with the system and the administrator became > deprecated." Doesn't seem right. P

Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 18:45 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > On Wednesday 12 September 2012 16:52:06 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Make sure you have the guest additions installed. > Thank you for your note. Indeed, I do have the guest additions installed. You've got VirtualBox 4.1.22, the current v

Re: Satellite P870 issues - Video + ethernet [SOLVED]

2012-09-12 Thread Julian DeMarchi
On 09/13/2012 04:12 AM, lee wrote: > Everything works fine with the intel card unless you want to play games. > Its performance for that is pathetic at best, though even that works. > > > Other than that, it's only a pointer for the OP so he has an idea of > what he needs to look for and what he

Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications

2012-09-12 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Wednesday 12 September 2012 16:52:06 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 12 sep 12, 15:47:10, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > which are, of course, for MS Win 7. Now, please keep in mind that I know > > absolutely nothing about hardware! Will installing additional drivers > > mess up the system? > >

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 16:12 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:05:48 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Even if you install all codecs that are available for Linux, you are not > > able to join every video from the Internet. > > Consumers need more codecs than are available for Linux. The

Re: dpkg/apt voodoo to ask "what version of is installed, if any?"

2012-09-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 12 sep 12, 15:44:59, Kris Deugau wrote: >> >> Is there a single command that can do this for both virtual and real >> packages, a la "rpm -q --whatprovides"? > > I have no idea what that command does, can you provide an example? Simi

Re: dpkg/apt voodoo to ask "what version of is installed, if any?"

2012-09-12 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 04:54:27 PM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 12 sep 12, 15:44:59, Kris Deugau wrote: > > Is there a single command that can do this for both virtual and real > > packages, a la "rpm -q --whatprovides"? > > I have no idea what that command does, can you provide an exa

kernels 3.0, 3.2, 3.4 won't boot in KVM

2012-09-12 Thread Neal Murphy
I've encountered a problem with Debian Squeeze. Wheezy doesn't seem to have a bigmem kernel, so I can't test it there. I have a custom firewall based on Smoothwall. I've been testing it (kernel 2.6.35 with PAE and SMP) on Squeeze in KVM without trouble for a couple years. When I upgraded my fir

Re: dpkg/apt voodoo to ask "what version of is installed, if any?"

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 sep 12, 15:44:59, Kris Deugau wrote: > > Is there a single command that can do this for both virtual and real > packages, a la "rpm -q --whatprovides"? I have no idea what that command does, can you provide an example? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users an

Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 sep 12, 15:47:10, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > which are, of course, for MS Win 7. Now, please keep in mind that I know > absolutely nothing about hardware! Will installing additional drivers mess > up > the system? Make sure you have the guest additions installed. Kind regards, A

Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 sep 12, 16:44:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 09:36 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > [1] I have experimented with pulseaudio to reroute audio to a > > different machine via the network, but the setup seemed too > > complicated and fragile for me so I just use the laptop's

raid1 issue after disk failure: both disks of the array are still active

2012-09-12 Thread Niccolò Belli
Hi, I have a raid1 array with two disks, distro is Squeeze amd64. /dev/sda is slowly dying, here is a snippet of "smartctl -a /dev/sda": 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000Old_age Always - 2 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 100 000Old_age Off

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 sep 12, 02:28:48, lee wrote: > Andrei POPESCU writes: > > > > You can press (Ctrl+)Alt+F1 to get a console :p > > > > (SCNR) > > Wasn't that F3? And then you try to start a web browser and it says > "command not found". Not even less is available, only more, which I > otherwise never us

Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing

2012-09-12 Thread Artifex Maximus
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:26:19 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > >> Artifex Maximus wrote: >>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Sven Hartge >>> wrote: Artifex Maximus wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Wed, 22

Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets

2012-09-12 Thread Gary Roach
OK. Lets start over. Configuration: 1. Epson Workforce 645 All in one 2. Network mix of hardwired Win2K and linux computers and an XP wireless. All with fixed IP addresses. 3. 645 now hardwired to router. Fixed IP address set in router and 645. 4. Router - Actiontec M1424-WR plus Cisco extentio

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:05:48 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 23:16 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > Um, you snipped this line: > > > > "These extra packages provide support for a few rarely used codecs" > > Even if you install all codecs that are available for Linux, you are not > ab

dpkg/apt voodoo to ask "what version of is installed, if any?"

2012-09-12 Thread Kris Deugau
I already have this and it's been working well for quite a while: dpkg-query --showformat '\${status}\t\${version}\n' -W $pkg Unfortunately I've just discovered it fails when $pkg is a virtual package, and I have no way to tell ahead of time if this is the case or not (nor does the caller care)

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I had issues with an ASUS board when it was new. Now it's old, several BIOS updates later, it's the perfect Linux machine. I only struggle with an IRQ issue for a new audio card, something that can happen with every mobo. Btw. today I don't care anymore, if there should be new BIOS updates. I nearl

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 19:21 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote: > Well, it ended up with an ASRock. And I switched from ASRock to ASUS ;). It's fortuitousness, we can have bad or good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications

2012-09-12 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Wednesday 12 September 2012 14:17:45 lee wrote: > "Stephen P. Molnar" writes: > > opengl extension GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil is not present > > This makes me think that you need another driver for the graphics card > which supports the required extension. OK, that makes sense, except which

ACPID stuck in an endless loop - prevents login

2012-09-12 Thread Chris Capon
Hi all. After a recent Debian update, I've been unable to log in to my Debian/Linux server using the console and GDM3 won't start - X.org crashes part way through the startup. I think ACPID may be the cause because in syslog there is an endless repetition of the same messages every few secon

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Go Linux
--- On Wed, 9/12/12, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > From: Tony van der Hoff > Subject: Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ? > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2012, 12:18 PM > > I've never had a problem with ASUS boards. YMMV, but let's > see some > justificat

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 02:10 +0200, lee wrote: > I've seen not totally clueless windoze users sitting with me in front > of their computer, looking at the Debian installer and asking me "How > do you know which keys to press?". It's a totally valid question. I > just know which keys to press, the cl

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
The Wanderer writes: > On 09/12/2012 09:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Mi, 12 sep 12, 08:57:37, The Wanderer wrote: >> >>> Admittedly, not presenting the user with such a prompt at all would be less >>> off-putting than either, but we may not be able to avoid that unless we >>> relegate th

Re: Satellite P870 issues

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Chris Bannister writes: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 06:48:33PM +0200, lee wrote: >> Julian De Marchi writes: >> >> > My major issue is the video devices. They are apparently a switchable >> > "type", so you have the choice to use either the intel or nvidia >> > GPUs. >> >> You might be out of lu

Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications

2012-09-12 Thread lee
"Stephen P. Molnar" writes: > opengl extension GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil is not present This makes me think that you need another driver for the graphics card which supports the required extension. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Tom Rausner
Hi. ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 18:40 +0100, skrev Tony van der Hoff: > No, you didn't; neither did I, it was "Lee". > > But you have just snipped all the attributions... Well.. sorry. -- Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 12/09/12 18:34, Tom Rausner wrote: > Hey Tony... > > ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 18:18 +0100, skrev Tony van der Hoff: > >>> Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap >>> you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though. > > I didn't write this (just for your

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 17:40 +0200, lee wrote: > "Weaver" writes: > > > I wouldn't classify partitioning as a 'tiny little detail.' > > It is one of the many tiny little steps the installer does. > > > Neither would the average end user. > > What are you trying to say? > > > Along with the fil

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Tom Rausner
Hey Tony... ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 18:18 +0100, skrev Tony van der Hoff: > > Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap > > you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though. I didn't write this (just for your information) > I read your 'installation' post,

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 02:10:31 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:28:18 +0200, lee wrote: >> >>> Camaleón writes: In my planet, yes. Everybody I know uses Windows (starting from my mother and ending with my company partners). >>> >>> That someone uses

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Tom Rausner
Hi. ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 03:01 +0200, skrev lee: > Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap > you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though. Well, it ended up with an ASRock. -- Tom Rausner

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 12/09/12 02:01, lee wrote: > Tom Rausner writes: > >> Generally I would agree and I was looking at MSI and ASUS to start with. >> I just happened to clap my eyes on this one "by accident" -and liked it. > > Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap > you can get.

Outgoing firewall and CNAMES

2012-09-12 Thread Lists
Hi guys, I use an outgoing policy of deny on webservers, and allow explicitely what I need them to connect to. This has never posed a problem, until today. I need to allow a website to pull in a feed from another site, hosted on amazon's elastic cloud thingy. The problem is, the DNS name i

Re: Storage server

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Denis Witt writes: > Anyway, I have some comparison data. I have a backup server that saves > data from 5 other server at our hosting company using rsnapshot. The > backups are kept for 14 days. > > rsnapshot: > bup: > obnam: > rdiff-backup: How about amanda? It hasn't been mentioned yet and mig

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
"Weaver" writes: > There is a stage where the installer asks for contrib and non-free apt > list inclusions. > It would probably be best to incorporate this as a default in a newbie > install. > Perhaps a note to explain this could be incorporated - 'If you are new to > open source free software

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
"Weaver" writes: > I wouldn't classify partitioning as a 'tiny little detail.' It is one of the many tiny little steps the installer does. > Neither would the average end user. What are you trying to say? > Along with the file system, it's the basis of any system. We could argue about that.

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
"Weaver" writes: > On Tue, September 11, 2012 7:43 am, lee wrote: >> "Weaver" writes: >> >>> On Mon, September 10, 2012 8:19 am, Chris Bannister wrote: Agreed. But the person who wants to install Debian is not the average end/home user. >>> >>> Exactly, but that's the majority mar

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Tom Rausner writes: > Generally I would agree and I was looking at MSI and ASUS to start with. > I just happened to clap my eyes on this one "by accident" -and liked it. Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, t

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Nelson Green writes: > have no choice but to run a GUI of some type. I would like to learn to do so > with a minimal footprint if you would be willing to share some tips. I find > my primary use of the GUI is email, the web apps I have to support, and > Guayadeque for my classical music fixes. Y

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Ma, 11 sep 12, 14:24:22, lee wrote: >> >> The question is not what is part of what, the question is what is >> needed. Since you need a working computer to install an OS on a >> computer, why can't we have that with an installation media so we can >> switch between th

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:28:18 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Camaleón writes: >>> >>> In my planet, yes. Everybody I know uses Windows (starting from my >>> mother and ending with my company partners). >> >> That someone uses it doesn't mean that they are able to fix problems. > > The

Re: [OT] How to redirect input/output to another console?

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Alex Robbins writes: > That said, I started with screen and then switched to tmux, which is an > actively developed rewrite of screen (and is BSD licensed). It has many > technical and objective improvements over screen, and, additionally, it > has proven a much better alternative in my personal

Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications

2012-09-12 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am in the midst of changing distributions for reasons that aren't really germane to this note. I have installed Debian-6.0.5-amd64 on my Dell Inspiron Laptop in VM VirtualBox 4.1.22. I am having problems installing/running two applications: MGLTools-1.5.4-Linux-86_64-install and PyRx-Linux

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Tom Rausner
Hi. tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 20:05 -0400, skrev Doug: > Why not report back after you have installed an OS on it. Yeah, why not. The board comes in a pile of stuff I've orderet. It should be here monday so I should get it done some time next week. Tom Rausner

Re: [OT] web hosting server files

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:03:13 +0800, lina wrote: > On Tuesday 11,September,2012 11:37 PM, Denis Witt wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:27:08 +0800 >> lina wrote: >> >>> I am not clear how to password protect my file/folder. >> >> Hi Lina, >> >> assuming the server is running Apache follow this h

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread steef
On 11-09-12 22:17, Lisi wrote: Since Squeeze I think that Debian has removed itself from this market. The main repository and kernel contain only FLOSS software. I.e. many drivers are missing and have to be separately installed. This is beyond a total newbie, and I think could not be rendered

Re: hearse crontab message

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 04:06:12 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Anyone know what this means? > 1+ 09/12 Cron DaemonCron perl -we 'sleep > rand 3600'; hearse --quiet< than 4 >> This message doesn't come up every day but does come up a few > times a week. There's a bug report in Debian BTS: ht

Re: KDE suspend / hibernate just executes the screensaver

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:39:23 +0200, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > I am running Mint LMDE with incoming repos = basically debian testing. Basically? Mmm... :-) > On the commandline I can suspend and hibernate the computer with > pm-suspend and pm-hibernate. But when I click on the Suspend or > Hi

Re: Setting /sys/block/sdb/device/max_sectors permanently to 128 for specific device

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:15:51 +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: (...) > Googling provided a solution which seems to work [1][2] which consists > in setting max_sectors to 128 istead of the default 240. > > I can do that as root manually but I'd like to have it done > automatically when the device is m

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 23:16 -0400, Celejar wrote: > Um, you snipped this line: > > "These extra packages provide support for a few rarely used codecs" Even if you install all codecs that are available for Linux, you are not able to join every video from the Internet. Consumers need more codecs th

Re: [OT] web hosting server files

2012-09-12 Thread lina
On Tuesday 11,September,2012 11:37 PM, Denis Witt wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:27:08 +0800 > lina wrote: > >> I am not clear how to password protect my file/folder. > > Hi Lina, > > assuming the server is running Apache follow this howto: > http://www.elated.com/articles/password-protecting-

Re: KDE suspend / hibernate just executes the screensaver

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 07:39 +0200, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > I am running Mint And I'm running AV Linux. I experienced that AV Linux is more Debian, than Mint is ;). Andrei already explained in German, that the help you can get from Debian users is limited. Mint isn't Debian, while AV Linux is

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 09:09 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > "feel free to correct my English ... ... off-list" Perhaps I'll add such a signature to mails I'll write in the future. This is a good idea. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:38:50 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > On 09/11/2012 09:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> I went through the info you gave me and have installed the >>> "epson-inkjet-printer-201106w_1.0.1-1lsb3.2_i386.deb" driver file. I >>> also have Xsane installed. I still get " Failed to start sca

Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 09:36 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > [1] I have experimented with pulseaudio to reroute audio to a > different machine via the network, but the setup seemed too > complicated and fragile for me so I just use the laptop's speakers for > the occasional youtube video or so. I do

Re: Removing Pulseaudio with Gnome: volume control missing

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 11:14 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 12 sep 12, 09:58:16, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > Recently I installed Debian on a new computer, and I want to avoid using > > Pulseaudio (it is problematic for me, and this is a long discussion on > > this and

Re: Removing Pulseaudio with Gnome: volume control missing

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:58:16 +0200, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: > Recently I installed Debian on a new computer, and I want to avoid using > Pulseaudio (it is problematic for me, and this is a long discussion on > this and another lists about that). > > I tried to uninstall it, and certainly, I

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 23:45 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 09:52:47PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > don't install German language packages. To post English output of > > commands on a German mailing list wouldn't be good. > > Don't you mean German output? That's what's n

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 09/12/2012 09:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 12 sep 12, 08:57:37, The Wanderer wrote: Admittedly, not presenting the user with such a prompt at all would be less off-putting than either, but we may not be able to avoid that unless we relegate the ability to control partitioning/filesy

Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 13 sep 12, 00:49:03, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:36:08AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > I have experimented with pulseaudio to reroute audio to a different > > machine via the network, but the setup seemed too complicated and > > fragile for me so I just use the l

Re: how to uninstall gnome totally?

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:33:11 -0700, houkensjtu wrote: > I have been using ubuntu for a while and now I decided to switch to > debian. Here is my question: > If I download a debian CD with GNOME desktop system, how can I totally > uninstall it? I found a lot relating package in aptitude and I was >

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:05:41 -0400, Doug wrote: > On 09/11/2012 11:16 AM, Tom Rausner wrote: >> Hi. >> >> tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 16:40 +0200, skrev maderios: >> >>> Hi >>> I bought uefi motherboard 1 year ago. It works well with squeeze weezy >>> and sid. "UEFI" changes nothing. >> Thanks for the hel

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 sep 12, 08:57:37, The Wanderer wrote: > > Admittedly, not presenting the user with such a prompt at all would be less > off-putting than either, but we may not be able to avoid that unless we > relegate > the ability to control partitioning/filesystems to the full expert install - > an

Re: ntpd crashes.

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:54:50 +0200, Mauro wrote: > On 11 September 2012 17:32, Camaleón wrote: (...) You can try a different approach: do not run ntpd as daemon but using cron and see how it goes :-? >>> >>> What's the difference of running ntpdate instead ntp with cron? >> >> Well, A

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:13:55 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote: > tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 17:52 +, skrev Camaleón: >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:51:22 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote: > >> A bad copy does not have to mean a hardware problem. Maybe using a >> different software to do the copy process could have helpe

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 13 sep 12, 00:33:59, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Although I had to jump through hoops to ensure the wheezy version was > installed instead of the 3rd party version. > > (Just noticed it now when I was getting the info.) > > Removing the repository is apparently not enough. :( This will sh

Re: ntpd crashes.

2012-09-12 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:16:05 +0100, Chris Davies wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> You can try a different approach: do not run ntpd as daemon but using >> cron and see how it goes :-? > > Huh? Yes, for testing purposes. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lis

Re: Satellite P870 issues

2012-09-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 06:48:33PM +0200, lee wrote: > Julian De Marchi writes: > > > My major issue is the video devices. They are apparently a switchable > > "type", so you have the choice to use either the intel or nvidia > > GPUs. > > You might be out of luck depending on what hardware is in

Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD

2012-09-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:36:08AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > I have experimented with pulseaudio to reroute audio to a different > machine via the network, but the setup seemed too complicated and > fragile for me so I just use the laptop's speakers for the occasional > youtube video or so.

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 09/12/2012 02:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 11 sep 12, 12:29:42, Weaver wrote: I am advocating the elimination of that lack of knowledge. You are assuming the user is interested in learning. In my experience it is rather the contrary. While this is true, I suspect (based on my own

Re: Removing Pulseaudio with Gnome: volume control missing

2012-09-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:58:16AM +0200, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: > Hi all! > > Recently I installed Debian on a new computer, and I want to avoid using > Pulseaudio (it is problematic for me, and this is a long discussion on > this and another lists about that). > > I tried to uninstall it

Re: Storage server

2012-09-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:03:43PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > http://www.taobackup.com/ Yes indeed, great read. Also this: http://www.jwz.org/doc/backups.html A single external drive, normally stored away from the server, would be enough to have a backup that would survive the host going up

Re: Storage server

2012-09-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:44:46PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Which is why I recommend XFS. It is exceptionally fast at traversing large > btrees. You'll need the 3.2 bpo kernel for Squeeze. The old as dirt 2.6.32 > kernel doesn't contain any of the recent (last 3 years) metadata > optimizati

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 04:19:35AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > "If you want to rip audio CD's to MP3's with e.g. Sound Juicer, you want > to have the "gstreamer0.10-lame" package from e.g. > www.deb-multimedia.org." - http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs root@tal:~# apt-cache policy libmp3lame

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 sep 12, 12:59:29, steef wrote: > On 11-09-12 08:00, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > >Unfortunately updates are turned off (of course), which makes those > >systems easy prey for viruses/worms/etc. and they end up in botnets :( > > this is not true in my native tongue: dutch. i am in possessio

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 02:44:48PM +0200, lee wrote: > Chris Bannister writes: > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:06:33PM +0200, lee wrote: > >> > >> And where's the 40GB (or whatever size it is) Blueray image that has all > >> the packages plus all the stuff from non-free plus a life system plus

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread steef
On 11-09-12 08:00, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Unfortunately updates are turned off (of course), which makes those systems easy prey for viruses/worms/etc. and they end up in botnets :( hi andrei, this is not true in my native tongue: dutch. i am in possession of a dvd with all hacked versions o

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 09:52:47PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > don't install German language packages. To post English output of > commands on a German mailing list wouldn't be good. Don't you mean German output? Anyway, to post English output if your locale is non-English, just prepend LC=C bef

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 11 sep 12, 21:17:52, Lisi wrote: > > Since Squeeze I think that Debian has removed itself from this market. The > main repository and kernel contain only FLOSS software. I.e. many drivers > are missing and have to be separately installed. This is beyond a total > newbie, and I think c

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:29:50 -0700 "Weaver" wrote: > > On Tue, September 11, 2012 6:40 pm, Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:51:39 +0200 > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 21:17 +0100, Lisi wrote: > >> > Since Squeeze I think that Debian has removed itself from this

Re: hearse crontab message

2012-09-12 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 04:06:12AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Anyone know what this means? > 1+ 09/12 Cron DaemonCron perl -we 'sleep rand > 3600'; hearse --quiet<> > This message doesn't come up every day but does come up a few times a > week. It means: * You have the "hearse" prog

Re: Storage server

2012-09-12 Thread Denis Witt
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:29:22 +0100 Jon Dowland wrote: > Denis' answer is very good, I won't re-iterate his points. Thanks. And also thanks for pointing out the Hardlinks thing, I over-read the "lots of small files" part in Velkjos Mail. Anyway, I have some comparison data. I have a backup serve

Re: Removing Pulseaudio with Gnome: volume control missing

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 sep 12, 09:58:16, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: > Hi all! > > Recently I installed Debian on a new computer, and I want to avoid using > Pulseaudio (it is problematic for me, and this is a long discussion on > this and another lists about that). > > I tried to uninstall it, and certainl

hearse crontab message

2012-09-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
Anyone know what this means? 1+ 09/12 Cron DaemonCron perl -we 'sleep rand 3600'; hearse --quiet<> This message doesn't come up every day but does come up a few times a week. --- jude Adobe fiend for failing to F

Re: Removing Pulseaudio with Gnome: volume control missing

2012-09-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
Isn't there a set of galsa packages to graphically control alsa?On Wed, 12 Sep 2012, Jos? Luis Segura Lucas wrote: > Hi all! > > Recently I installed Debian on a new computer, and I want to avoid using > Pulseaudio (it is problematic for me, and this is a long discussion on > this and another li

Removing Pulseaudio with Gnome: volume control missing

2012-09-12 Thread José Luis Segura Lucas
Hi all! Recently I installed Debian on a new computer, and I want to avoid using Pulseaudio (it is problematic for me, and this is a long discussion on this and another lists about that). I tried to uninstall it, and certainly, I have no problem: I have sound but I don't have any volume control o