Re: Installing Debian on an SSD

2013-01-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 05:05:12AM +0800, Hormatzhan Yiltiz wrote:
> 
> This page, as you pointed out, is more than a guideline. Can someone please
> polish this up a little bit? That would be a wonderful and appreciative.

Huh?

Start here:
http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount

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Re: icedove's auxiliary functions not working.

2013-01-12 Thread Gary Roach

On 01/12/2013 12:10 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

Debian wheezy
Icedove 10.0.11

Recently Icedove quit following url's to the web browser and quit 
playing embedded videos. I can't seem to find the source of the 
problem. I've checked all of the settings on both iceweasel and 
icedove and couldn't fine anything wrong. Iceweasel works fine. Any 
suggestions.


Gary R


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Re: icedove's auxiliary functions not working. (Solved)

2013-01-12 Thread Gary Roach

On 01/12/2013 01:30 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gary Roach  wrote:

Debian wheezy
Icedove 10.0.11

Recently Icedove quit following url's to the web browser and quit playing
embedded videos. I can't seem to find the source of the problem. I've
checked all of the settings on both iceweasel and icedove and couldn't fine
anything wrong. Iceweasel works fine. Any suggestions.

In icedove, go to Edit -- Preferences -- Attachments and check the
content types and subsequent actions to make sure you have Iceweasel
selected in the appropriate places.



Thank you. That fixed the problems.

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Re: Best recommendations for posting anonymously?? Looking for pointers

2013-01-12 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 05:02:16PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

..snip..

> >I would like to add directions describing how best to post
> >anonymously
> >for end users.  I would like  US govt regulators to be able to
> >comment
> >about the problems and corruption they encounter at their jobs
> >without
> >fear of retaliation, but I am not sure how best to set-up a site
> >which
> >could provide this service.  The  hope would be to coordinate a
> >bright
> >light on the current regulatory  problems to help speed up the
> >process
> >of regulatory reform through safe public discourse.
> >
> >Have any other site already successfully achieved this result?
> >
> >Help and feedback are appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Engsafety
> 
> I think Tor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network))
> and freenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet) are some
> interesting starting points.

Chaining remailers would work for this. More secure than Tor.

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Re: icedove's auxiliary functions not working.

2013-01-12 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gary Roach  wrote:
> Debian wheezy
> Icedove 10.0.11
>
> Recently Icedove quit following url's to the web browser and quit playing
> embedded videos. I can't seem to find the source of the problem. I've
> checked all of the settings on both iceweasel and icedove and couldn't fine
> anything wrong. Iceweasel works fine. Any suggestions.

In icedove, go to Edit -- Preferences -- Attachments and check the
content types and subsequent actions to make sure you have Iceweasel
selected in the appropriate places.


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Re: Installing Debian on an SSD

2013-01-12 Thread Hormatzhan Yiltiz
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Grześ Andruszkiewicz wrote:
> > Does the Debian installer work out of the box for SSDs?
>
> Wheezy 7.0, yes.  Squeeze 6.0, no.
>
> > I.e. I heard that you need to align the partitions to 32bit virtual
> > clusters (is it actually true?).
>
> The Wheezy 7.0 installer will do the right thing automatically.
>
> Earlier in this mailing list there has been much discussion about
> partition alignments because people see what looks like wasted space
> but is there specifically to work with the new advanced format
> partitioning.  It will work fine.
>
> > Are there any other things I need to take into account while
> > installing Debian on SSD?
>
> No.  You can install and use it and never know the difference.
>
> Optionally however there are some changes that you _may_ make to to
> improve performance.  But it will also work acceptably well (you won't
> notice) without doing anything.  (But adding "discard" to ext4
> filesystems may improve performance by making the trim command
> available.  I haven't done it because I am still running Stable
> Squeeze 6.0 on my SSD.)
>
> There is a wiki page with various information.  It is probably more
> information than really needed.  It has seen a long evolution of edits
> to get to this point in time.  I think I would ignore about half of
> it.  The problem is research each item and deducing which half.
>
>   http://wiki.debian.org/SSDoptimization


This page, as you pointed out, is more than a guideline. Can someone please
polish this up a little bit? That would be a wonderful and appreciative.


>
>
> Bob
>


icedove's auxiliary functions not working.

2013-01-12 Thread Gary Roach

Debian wheezy
Icedove 10.0.11

Recently Icedove quit following url's to the web browser and quit 
playing embedded videos. I can't seem to find the source of the problem. 
I've checked all of the settings on both iceweasel and icedove and 
couldn't fine anything wrong. Iceweasel works fine. Any suggestions.


Gary R


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Re: Best recommendations for posting anonymously?? Looking for pointers

2013-01-12 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Engineering Safety Organization
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does  anyone  have  any  great   suggestions  for  how  to  best  post
> anonymously to web  sites and how to create web  sites and web servers
> to allow  participants a reasonable  expectation of anonymity  so that
> they can freely post their concerns?
>

I recommend Tails -- https://tails.boum.org/ -- a live distribution
based on Debian with Tor and other privacy features enabled.


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Re: Best recommendations for posting anonymously?? Looking for pointers

2013-01-12 Thread Engineering Safety Organization

> "Worrier" == Worrier Poet  writes:

Worrier> On 01/12/2013 11:02 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>> Le 11.01.2013 23:27, Engineering Safety Organization a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have any great suggestions for how to best post
>>> anonymously to web sites and how to create web sites and web
>>> servers to allow participants a reasonable expectation of
>>> anonymity so that they can freely post their concerns?
>>> 
>>> There is a pro-regulation website, http://www.engsafety.org,
>>> on which I would like to add directions describing how best to
>>> post anonymously for end users.  I would like US govt
>>> regulators to be able to comment about the problems and
>>> corruption they encounter at their jobs without fear of
>>> retaliation, but I am not sure how best to set-up a site which
>>> could provide this service.  The hope would be to coordinate a
>>> bright light on the current regulatory problems to help speed
>>> up the process of regulatory reform through safe public
>>> discourse.
>>> 
>>> Have any other site already successfully achieved this result?
>>> 
>>> Help and feedback are appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Engsafety
>> 
>> I think Tor
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)) and
>> freenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet) are some
>> interesting starting points.
>> 
>> 
Worrier> Also, the following site might be just what you're
Worrier> looking for -- at least in the way of examples:

Worrier> https://riseup.net/

Worrier> Maybe your group could set up a user list there?

Hi Worrier,

https://riseup.net/ certainly looks interesting.  Thanks very much for
the suggestion.  I will follow-up.

I  think  this  problem  is  actually  a  potentially  tough  problem.
Pointers to academic research would be great too.

I am  hoping the post  will generate some  more discussion.  I  am not
sure that encrypting disks and  an anonymous IP are enough.  Running a
private  mail server  in conjunction  with the  web server  helps, but
there should be a cookbook solution.   Or at least a discussion of the
challenges.

Really appreciate the feedback.

Engsafety.




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Re: Best recommendations for posting anonymously?? Looking for pointers

2013-01-12 Thread Engineering Safety Organization
> "berenger" == berenger morel  writes:

berenger> Le 11.01.2013 23:27, Engineering Safety Organization a
berenger> écrit :
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone have any great suggestions for how to best post
>> anonymously to web sites and how to create web sites and web
>> servers to allow participants a reasonable expectation of
>> anonymity so that they can freely post their concerns?
>> 
>> There is a pro-regulation website, http://www.engsafety.org, on
>> which I would like to add directions describing how best to
>> post anonymously for end users.  I would like US govt
>> regulators to be able to comment about the problems and
>> corruption they encounter at their jobs without fear of
>> retaliation, but I am not sure how best to set-up a site which
>> could provide this service.  The hope would be to coordinate a
>> bright light on the current regulatory problems to help speed
>> up the process of regulatory reform through safe public
>> discourse.
>> 
>> Have any other site already successfully achieved this result?
>> 
>> Help and feedback are appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Engsafety

berenger> I think Tor
berenger> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network))
berenger> and freenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet) are
berenger> some interesting starting points.

Berenger, thanks for the feedback and all suggestions are appreciated.

I looked at the Tor project  already and oddly the web site topic came
up in my local gym.  The consensus on the Tor project is that it seems
to  be  a  US govt  sponsored  project  to  lure and  track  potential
terrorists on the web.  The project looks really suspicious, and there
was wide doubt in just our gym about its intentions.  I would not feel
comfortable  recommending it  for  http://www.engsafety.org, which  is
critical of the failure of US regulators.

I think there  must be a better approach to anonymity.   I am sure our
site is not the first to need this type of setup.

Thanks again for the input.

Engsafety.



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Re: Java Security Flaw

2013-01-12 Thread Miles Fidelman

Patrick Bartek wrote:

For the past couple of days have been reading about a major security hole in 
Java 7:

(http://www.zdnet.com/homeland-security-warns-to-disable-java-amid-zero-day-flaw-709713/)

And was wondering if IceTea might have the same flaw.  As yet I've seen no 
mention of it.



Also no mention of whether this effects server side code (e.g., web 
services running behind Tomcat or Jetty), or stand-alone applications 
written in Java?


And.. what about non-Oracle Java implementations?


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Re: Best recommendations for posting anonymously?? Looking for pointers

2013-01-12 Thread Worrier Poet
On 01/12/2013 11:02 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Le 11.01.2013 23:27, Engineering Safety Organization a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does  anyone  have  any  great   suggestions  for  how  to  best  
>> post
>> anonymously to web  sites and how to create web  sites and web 
>> servers
>> to allow  participants a reasonable  expectation of anonymity  so 
>> that
>> they can freely post their concerns?
>>
>> There is a  pro-regulation website, http://www.engsafety.org, on 
>> which
>> I would like to add directions describing how best to post 
>> anonymously
>> for end users.  I would like  US govt regulators to be able to 
>> comment
>> about the problems and corruption they encounter at their jobs 
>> without
>> fear of retaliation, but I am not sure how best to set-up a site 
>> which
>> could provide this service.  The  hope would be to coordinate a 
>> bright
>> light on the current regulatory  problems to help speed up the 
>> process
>> of regulatory reform through safe public discourse.
>>
>> Have any other site already successfully achieved this result?
>>
>> Help and feedback are appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Engsafety
> 
> I think Tor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)) and 
> freenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet) are some interesting 
> starting points.
> 
> 
Also, the following site might be just what you're looking for -- at
least in the way of examples:

https://riseup.net/

Maybe your group could set up a user list there?


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Java Security Flaw

2013-01-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
For the past couple of days have been reading about a major security hole in 
Java 7:

(http://www.zdnet.com/homeland-security-warns-to-disable-java-amid-zero-day-flaw-709713/)

And was wondering if IceTea might have the same flaw.  As yet I've seen no 
mention of it.

B


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Re: Best recommendations for posting anonymously?? Looking for pointers

2013-01-12 Thread berenger . morel

Le 11.01.2013 23:27, Engineering Safety Organization a écrit :

Hi,

Does  anyone  have  any  great   suggestions  for  how  to  best  
post
anonymously to web  sites and how to create web  sites and web 
servers
to allow  participants a reasonable  expectation of anonymity  so 
that

they can freely post their concerns?

There is a  pro-regulation website, http://www.engsafety.org, on 
which
I would like to add directions describing how best to post 
anonymously
for end users.  I would like  US govt regulators to be able to 
comment
about the problems and corruption they encounter at their jobs 
without
fear of retaliation, but I am not sure how best to set-up a site 
which
could provide this service.  The  hope would be to coordinate a 
bright
light on the current regulatory  problems to help speed up the 
process

of regulatory reform through safe public discourse.

Have any other site already successfully achieved this result?

Help and feedback are appreciated.

Thanks,

Engsafety


I think Tor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)) and 
freenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet) are some interesting 
starting points.



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Re: Sharing sound between users on wheezy.

2013-01-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 12 ian 13, 16:51:09, Sthu Deus wrote:
> 
> In other words I see: 2 mplayer2 under 2 users at the same time can
> share SB, whereas 1 mplayer2 and 1 jackd under 2 users can not share SB.
... 
> Do You have any comments on my setup?

I'm guessing JACK is blocking the sound card completely. Not a big 
surprise considering it is meant for serious audio work, which requires 
low latencies.

Since as far as I understand you need JACK anyway I suggest you 
configure the system around it. Let it take control of your sound card 
and make sure any other applications output directly to it. Most modern 
applications should be able to do that (I only checked mplayer2 in 
wheezy though).

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Re: when new versions will be available at wheezy ?

2013-01-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 12 ian 13, 13:23:35, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2013-01-12 12:07 +0100, Johan Grönqvist wrote:
> 
> > With priority up to 100, the packages from experimental will not be
> > upgraded with a normal upgrade command, but the packages will need
> > explicit upgrade requests.
> >
> > As packages from experimental are experimental and may break your
> > system without warning, requiring you to explicitly request upgrades
> > of such packages seems like a good idea to me.
> 
> Of course experimental should always be at a lower pinning priority than
> unstable, but I still like the idea of upgrading those packages which
> have been installed from experimental automatically.  Otherwise it's too
> easy to end up with outdated and totally unsupported packages.

That's exactly why I suggested 100. Since this is the same priority as 
installed packages apt/itude will upgrade the package if newer versions 
are available, but will not install new packages, unless specifically 
requested to.

Anything higher than 100 and one might pull packages from experimental 
without intending to.

BTW, this is the same priority used by backports now.

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Re: when new versions will be available at wheezy ?

2013-01-12 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-01-12 12:07 +0100, Johan Grönqvist wrote:

> With priority up to 100, the packages from experimental will not be
> upgraded with a normal upgrade command, but the packages will need
> explicit upgrade requests.
>
> As packages from experimental are experimental and may break your
> system without warning, requiring you to explicitly request upgrades
> of such packages seems like a good idea to me.

Of course experimental should always be at a lower pinning priority than
unstable, but I still like the idea of upgrading those packages which
have been installed from experimental automatically.  Otherwise it's too
easy to end up with outdated and totally unsupported packages.

See also this blog entry from a Debian Developer:
http://petereisentraut.blogspot.de/2010/07/increasing-priority-of-debian.html.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: when new versions will be available at wheezy ?

2013-01-12 Thread maderios

On 01/12/2013 12:07 PM, Johan Grönqvist wrote:

2013-01-12 11:26, maderios skrev:

On 01/11/2013 09:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Vi, 11 ian 13, 10:56:22, maderios wrote:


Package: *
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 600

^
I don't think this is a good idea. Maybe 100, but definitely nothing
bigger.

Why ?


With priority up to 100, the packages from experimental will not be
upgraded with a normal upgrade command, but the packages will need
explicit upgrade requests.

As packages from experimental are experimental and may break your system
without warning, requiring you to explicitly request upgrades of such
packages seems like a good idea to me.


I agree with you. I never tried to install system packages from 
experimental. Too dangerous. In the past, I tried to install 
experimental digikam but it didn't work... When I need some programs or 
libraries (Ex Bullet)  I prefer to compile myself and install with 
checkinstall. It works well.

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Re: when new versions will be available at wheezy ?

2013-01-12 Thread Johan Grönqvist

2013-01-12 11:26, maderios skrev:

On 01/11/2013 09:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Vi, 11 ian 13, 10:56:22, maderios wrote:


Package: *
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 600

^
I don't think this is a good idea. Maybe 100, but definitely nothing
bigger.

Why ?


With priority up to 100, the packages from experimental will not be 
upgraded with a normal upgrade command, but the packages will need 
explicit upgrade requests.


As packages from experimental are experimental and may break your system 
without warning, requiring you to explicitly request upgrades of such 
packages seems like a good idea to me.


look at "man apt_preferences" or search for docs on apt pinning for 
information about what the number means.


/ johan



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Re: when new versions will be available at wheezy ?

2013-01-12 Thread maderios

On 01/11/2013 09:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Vi, 11 ian 13, 10:56:22, maderios wrote:


Package: *
  Pin: release a=experimental
  Pin-Priority: 600

 ^
I don't think this is a good idea. Maybe 100, but definitely nothing
bigger.

Why ?

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Sharing sound between users on wheezy.

2013-01-12 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, Raffaele.


I could not answer on Your last letter so I have started a new thread.

Among other You wrote:

> you should use dmix with the 'ipc_key_add_uid' parameter set to false
> to let multiple users share the same device.

The problem now is that I can not achieve multi user SB access. Or
rahter I would say it is but working strange way. - I can play FLAC w/
mplayer2 under one user, at the same time I can pause the playing and
start watching movie w/ mplayer2 under another user. - All works. But
in case no app.s are using SB, I run under yet another user jackd, run
an MIDI editor MusE, then quit it (jackd is still running), I start
mplayer2 for FLAC under the first user - it refuses to play until I
kill jackd from under the third user. Please, do not ask me for the
configuration of the three users - just let's suppose this is the
initial situation.

In other words I see: 2 mplayer2 under 2 users at the same time can
share SB, whereas 1 mplayer2 and 1 jackd under 2 users can not share SB.

All these three users are in the audio group that has its record in

/etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf

/etc/asound.conf :

# This is commented out because if enabled - PCM ceases to work, only
Master works; whereas when disabled - both work. #pcm.!default {
#type plug
#slave.pcm "dmixer"
#}

pcm.dsp0 {
type plug
slave.pcm "dmixer"
}

pcm.dmixer {
type dmix
ipc_key 1024# the key must be unique
ipc_key_add_uid 0   #
Multiusage ipc_perm 0660   # permissions - octal notation
slave {
pcm "hw:0,0"
period_time 0
period_size 2048
buffer_size 8192
rate 44100
}
}

ctl.dmixer {
type hw
card 0
}

Do You have any comments on my setup?

Thanks for Your help.


Sthu.


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Best recommendations for posting anonymously?? Looking for pointers

2013-01-12 Thread Engineering Safety Organization

Hi,

Does  anyone  have  any  great   suggestions  for  how  to  best  post
anonymously to web  sites and how to create web  sites and web servers
to allow  participants a reasonable  expectation of anonymity  so that
they can freely post their concerns?

There is a  pro-regulation website, http://www.engsafety.org, on which
I would like to add directions describing how best to post anonymously
for end users.  I would like  US govt regulators to be able to comment
about the problems and corruption they encounter at their jobs without
fear of retaliation, but I am not sure how best to set-up a site which
could provide this service.  The  hope would be to coordinate a bright
light on the current regulatory  problems to help speed up the process
of regulatory reform through safe public discourse.

Have any other site already successfully achieved this result?

Help and feedback are appreciated.

Thanks,

Engsafety




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