Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 02 mar 14, 17:18:39, ghaverla wrote: > This isn't properly replied to. I am new to Claws, and I have no time > to figure out gpg signing. Close enough (i.e. the attributions are right as far as I can tell) ;) > On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 11:56:22 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Sb, 01 m

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 02 mar 14, 12:30:54, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > > On Sb, 01 mar 14, 14:38:14, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 > > > count=1939608 of=/home/richard/myiso1.iso conv=notrunc > > > [...] > > > root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# dd i

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd fight

2014-03-02 Thread Doug
On 03/03/2014 12:56 AM, Bret Busby wrote:Debian; why provision is not made, to allow software that runs on Debian 5, to run on Debian 6 and Debian 7. As a single example, I have a multifunction printer, of which, the multifunctionality worked with Debian 5. Now, it is only a laser printer,

Firmware stuff - was systemd fight

2014-03-02 Thread Bret Busby
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014, y...@marupa.net wrote: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 03:05:20 From: y...@marupa.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 19:21:09 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@list

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:52:40 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > You *imagine*, not "think" (using reductive logic?). I'm sure your > not a bully who forces your ideas onto those that do want fast boot > instead of hibernation. Did you really need to send this? The entire note, not just this snippet.

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE.

2014-03-02 Thread Natural Linux
System V is NOT hard to "maintain" The scripts were written YEARS ago. They're fine. They do NOT need to be changed. Debian SysV has concurrent boot aswell. Systemd is a poison apple. 200k lines of unaudited root privlege code. A consulting service to go along with this new _operating system_

[solved] Re: Jessie almost freezes every several minutes

2014-03-02 Thread Gary Dale
On 02/03/14 12:31 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 01/03/14 06:26 PM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 06:11:42PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: BTW: there is something more than just KDE since I didn't get a slowdown when I tried it with a new user without having the raid array /home. The differences

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread Natural Linux
"Clearly such blatent politicking tarnishes that respect, and I'd imagine" "this is becoming a popular point of view." " "Cheers," " Paul" Says the systemd camp, which uses politics in every fight it wages (and it usually wins). Using the tech-ctte to change the OS in a fundamental way itself

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - Linux IS about CHOICE

2014-03-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Yes, by all means we should ignore the fake personas, Mr. Natural Linux, whoever you are. On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Natural Linux wrote: > Matthias Urlichs, Why should we believe you or the bullshit excuses given > in the article? > > The fact is, last year none of this crap was needed. >

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - Linux IS about CHOICE

2014-03-02 Thread Natural Linux
Matthias Urlichs, Why should we believe you or the bullshit excuses givenin the article?The fact is, last year none of this crap was needed.Now it suddenly is.Furthermore gnome stole libgtk from the gimp project recentlyand then they made an incompatable "libgtk" 3.0.And now they're requiring all t

Re: debian instalacion en VIT M2421

2014-03-02 Thread Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta
Of course you can, those laptops comes (sometimes) with Canaima Linux 4 which is a Debian 7 based distro. Please register and ask on the Canaima support list: http://listas.canaima.softwarelibre.gob.ve/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/soporte After trying this and other googled tutorials: http://kimberli

debian instalacion en VIT M2421

2014-03-02 Thread kleiber toledo
Dear friends. would like to know if I can install Debian on a notebook (laptop) called VIT M2421. These are assembled in Venezuela, come with Canaima (Linux) and windows manufacturing. But CD both drivers lost me, I found one for windows 7 from the page manufacturer. But I want to have is Debian.

SOLVED: Re: Issue importing a large MYSQL database.

2014-03-02 Thread John W. Foster
On Sat, 2014-03-01 at 23:41 +, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Hi > > On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 01:33:44PM -0600, John W. Foster wrote: > > Yep this is Debian specific. I have a system running Debian Wheezy; up > > to date; AMD 6 core processor; 4GB ram. Terabytes of disk space. This > > computer is

Re: Check Update, Update and Port Blocking

2014-03-02 Thread Bill Wood
This is an update on my post on 02/20. I got the "yellow triangle" icon again so I went into admin for my Wireless Gateway and reset the security level to intermediate or "typical". I then clicked on the icon and selected "check updates". The usual dialog box appeared and it started checking for

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread staticsafe
On 3/2/2014 20:21, LOwens wrote: > > As I understand things, one of the benefits of systemd is a fast boot > process. As I only boot my computer once per year (or so), this is terribly > important to me (sarcasm). My computer spends a lot of time doing BOINC. > > As I understand things, to spee

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread David
On 2 March 2014 22:20, David wrote: On 2 March 2014 23:54, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> I would like to have more information about this "read ahead bug", but >> I cannot find a full bug report or similar technical discussion of it. > > [snip interesting information] Thank you again Thomas for sha

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/03/14 11:31, ghaverla wrote: > On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:53:59 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >>> I disagree with the binaryness of >>> systemd. >> >> Do you mean the *one* binary in systemd? I'm pretty sure the source >> is available. > > As I understand things, one of the benefits of sy

RE: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread LOwens
-Original Message- From: ghaverla [mailto:ghave...@materialisations.com] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 4:31 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:53:59 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: >

Re: Debian init choices

2014-03-02 Thread staticsafe
On 3/2/2014 20:23, staticsafe wrote: > You will need the scripts of course. Might need to run them yourself or > borrow from a distro that uses daemontools (are there any?) That would be "write them yourself". So much for proofreading.. -- staticsafe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-re

Re: Debian init choices

2014-03-02 Thread staticsafe
On 3/2/2014 18:44, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I was just wondering something. How much effort would it take for me, > personally, just me, to make my Debian Stable start all its processes > with DJB's Daemontools. I know Daemontools, I understand it, I know how > to work with it and how to tr

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 13:05:20 -0600 y...@marupa.net wrote: > Sure, systemd has its flaws (While I like the journal, there are > downsides to a binary-based log when your system is screwed up and > your only resource is a LiveCD. I don't know if there's a way to read > the journal outside the system

Re: Debian init choices

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 02:53:35AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Actually, you just need to pass the proper 'init=' parameter to the > kernel. That works too, but by default the kernel will look for /sbin/init. For testing purposes passing the parameter would obviously be the safer choice. Che

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
This isn't properly replied to. I am new to Claws, and I have no time to figure out gpg signing. On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 11:56:22 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 01 mar 14, 20:03:54, ghaverla wrote: > > > > But the fact there are no options is what bothers me. > > There are options. Even if C

Re: Debian init choices

2014-03-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 03 mar 14, 00:45:19, Tom Furie wrote: > > You can put any executable binary in /sbin/init and the kernel will run > it when it's finished loading. Actually, you just need to pass the proper 'init=' parameter to the kernel. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUse

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:53:59 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > > I disagree with the binaryness of > > systemd. > > Do you mean the *one* binary in systemd? I'm pretty sure the source > is available. As I understand things, one of the benefits of systemd is a fast boot process. As I only boot m

Re: Debian init choices

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 06:44:33PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > I was just wondering something. How much effort would it take for me, > personally, just me, to make my Debian Stable start all its processes > with DJB's Daemontools. I know Daemontools, I understand it, I know how > to work with it an

Debian init choices

2014-03-02 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I was just wondering something. How much effort would it take for me, personally, just me, to make my Debian Stable start all its processes with DJB's Daemontools. I know Daemontools, I understand it, I know how to work with it and how to troubleshoot it. What I don't know is: 1) How to g

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - Linux IS about CHOICE

2014-03-02 Thread Matthias Urlichs
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Re: Bug#727708: Call for Votes on init system coupling

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/03/14 09:43, NoTo CTTE wrote: An informed, enlightening, and calm perspective:- http://lwn.net/Articles/585219/ Kind regards -- "Knowledge is the enemy of faith and ignorance" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/03/14 05:28, Doug wrote: > On 03/02/2014 02:02 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 02/03/14 16:53, y...@marupa.net wrote: >>> On Sunday, March 02, 2014 04:25:13 PM Scott Ferguson wrote: On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>

Re: Numerical Methods Programming: was: Four people decided the yadda yadda yadda

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 14:46:21 -0500 "Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com" wrote: > On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 11:31:08 -0700 > ghaverla wrote: > > > > Most of the programming I have done is numerical methods, > > What language did you use? I've used a little bit of Scheme, and kind > of liked it for num

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 13:05 -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > While I like the journal, there are downsides to a > binary-based log when your system is screwed up and your only resource is a > LiveCD. I don't know if there's a way to read the journal outside the system > that created it. $ sudo s

Numerical Methods Programming: was: Four people decided the yadda yadda yadda

2014-03-02 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 11:31:08 -0700 ghaverla wrote: > Most of the programming I have done is numerical methods, What language did you use? I've used a little bit of Scheme, and kind of liked it for numbers. When you say numerical methods programming, do you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread yaro
On Sunday, March 02, 2014 01:28:57 PM Doug wrote: > On 03/02/2014 02:02 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > On 02/03/14 16:53, y...@marupa.net wrote: > >> On Sunday, March 02, 2014 04:25:13 PM Scott Ferguson wrote: > >>> On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Sco

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 11:27:59 -0500 "Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com" wrote: > On Sat, 1 Mar 2014 18:26:25 -0700 > ghaverla wrote: > > > > I will try Sabyon (sp?). But it looks like it might move to systemd > > willingly leaving no option. It is based on Gentoo, which I could > > move to. >

Re: Netflix on Sid, no wine.

2014-03-02 Thread Mark Carroll
Hugo Vanwoerkom writes: > A few days ago Google News carried this: > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-enable-silverlight-watch-netflix-linux/ > > I tried it and it works as advertized, an easy installation and Netflix > works. Thank you for the heads-up! I can confirm that this works fine in

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 02 mar 14, 13:28:57, Doug wrote: > On 03/02/2014 02:02 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >On 02/03/14 16:53, y...@marupa.net wrote: > >>In a few more years I imagine most people opposed to systemd won't > >>have a problem with it being there after all after using it for a bit. > >I'd be very surpr

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Doug
On 03/02/2014 02:02 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 02/03/14 16:53, y...@marupa.net wrote: On Sunday, March 02, 2014 04:25:13 PM Scott Ferguson wrote: On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: Here's mine:- troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 11:27 -0500, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > If I remember correctly, I was forced to configure the kernel myself > at install time Simply download a default Debian .config and then build the Sabayon kernel, SICR :D. Regards, Ralf PS: Forwarded Message

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Sat, 1 Mar 2014 18:26:25 -0700 ghaverla wrote: > > I will try Sabyon (sp?). But it looks like it might move to systemd > willingly leaving no option. It is based on Gentoo, which I could > move to. Gord, I tested Sabayon during my last "distro shootout", and it's *a lot* different than Deb

Re: Netflix on Sid, no wine.

2014-03-02 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Hugo Vanwoerkom writes: > Hi, > > A few days ago Google News carried this: > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-enable-silverlight-watch-netflix-linux/ > > I tried it and it works as advertized, an easy installation and > Netflix works. > > IMO the latter is overrated: mostly old hat hu hum movi

Black screen with nvidia driver

2014-03-02 Thread Michael Strean
Hi! everybody - hoping to get some help troubleshooting. Running unstable with nvidia driver on a MacBook Pro 10,1 with no problems until I performed an upgrade, kernel compile,  and “m-a a-i nvidia" a couple of days ago …Now, the console screen clears, the cursor is visible for a second in the upp

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 12:24:26PM +, Brian wrote: > The interesting questions involve what is happening on bendel after a > mail is accepted. > > 1. Why is any mail delayed for 15 minutes before onward transmission? Could be any of many reasons. System load, SMTP transmission failure, rout

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 23:21, disbandtechc...@tfwno.gf wrote: > Regular inits are under 10k lines of code inclusive. Um, are you kind of limiting your audience? The vast majority of the readers of this list are familiar with the internet. Have *you* heard of it? Did you consider they might check? You know

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread NoTo CTTE
Systemd is over 200,000 lines of ring0 running bullshit.Regular inits are under 10k lines of code inclusive.Some are 100 lines of code.Hmm which is easier to find exploits in.SystemD.Notice how the fknuts always try to change the tables."It's YOU who are the shill!"And always it is the same argumen

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I would like to have more information about this "read ahead bug", but > I cannot find a full bug report or similar technical discussion of it. dd count= will not save you from it. It is in the block device driver of Linux for CD reading. CD media can bear sectors which do not represent da

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Dan Purgert
On 02/03/2014 07:24, Brian wrote: > On Sun 02 Mar 2014 at 09:54:01 +, Tom Furie wrote: > >> If you look at the headers on your posts (or anyone else's for that >> matter), you can track the progress from origin to destination. In this >> instance the messages were received by the Debian mail s

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Brian
On Sun 02 Mar 2014 at 09:54:01 +, Tom Furie wrote: > If you look at the headers on your posts (or anyone else's for that > matter), you can track the progress from origin to destination. In this > instance the messages were received by the Debian mail system almost > immediately you sent them,

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > My starting point is a purchased multi DVD set of Wheezy(7.1.0). > My goal is a single bootable flash drive with an unstated presumption > that it would be formatted FAT16 or FAT32. isoinfo reports the flash > drive is ISO 9660. Yes, it is. You copied it onto the stick

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 01 Mar 2014 at 18:39:31 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > >d-i knows how to mount the ISO (otherwise all your installs would have > >failed). Now - what does it know that you don't? :) > > > > You be only one claiming omniscience ;/ The time to get worried is when moun

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 01 mar 14, 14:38:14, Richard Owlett wrote: root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom ... Volume size is: 1939608 root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=1939608 of=/home/richard/myiso1.iso conv=notrunc 1939608+0 record

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > On Sb, 01 mar 14, 14:38:14, Richard Owlett wrote: > > root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 > > count=1939608 of=/home/richard/myiso1.iso conv=notrunc > > [...] > > root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# dd if=/home/richard/myiso1.iso > > bs=2048 count=1939608 of=/dev/sdb

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 22:06, Richard Owlett wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 02/03/14 11:39, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Brian wrote: On Sat 01 Mar 2014 at 14:38:14 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Created myiso1.iso from Wheezy(7.1) DVD 1 of 10 using dd and then > used dd to copy it to a U

Re: Wireless AP setup: RTL8188CUS

2014-03-02 Thread Csanyi Pal
Scott Ferguson writes: > On 31/01/14 04:53, Csanyi Pal wrote: > I just bought an USB dongle nano Netis WF-2120 adapter. > WI1 chip1: Realtek RTL8188CUS > I want to set it up on my headless Debian Wheezy server as a Wireless > Access Point. I builded the custom kernel version 2.6.39.4-13 with mod

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Richard Owlett
Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i am the developer of xorriso, which created the image in question under control of the debian-cd package. Debian i386 images are ISO 9660 filesystems with El Torito Boot Record to boot from CD/DVD/BD, and with Master Boot Record, which enables them to boot from hard d

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread David
On 2 March 2014 20:41, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 01 mar 14, 14:38:14, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom > ... >> Volume size is: 1939608 >> root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 >> count=1939608 of=/home/richard/myi

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Richard Owlett
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 02/03/14 11:39, Richard Owlett wrote: Brian wrote: On Sat 01 Mar 2014 at 14:38:14 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Created myiso1.iso from Wheezy(7.1) DVD 1 of 10 using dd and then used dd to copy it to a USB flash drive. I was able to boot from the flash drive and do se

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:32 +0100, Slavko wrote: > I personaly don't like the democratic system, where anybody > participate on the decisions Neither Debian, nor the distro we should not mention are democratic, but for both distros everybody is allowed to make decisions, when becoming a member of

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 01 mar 14, 20:03:54, ghaverla wrote: > > But the fact there are no options is what bothers me. There are options. Even if Canonical will be pulling the plug on udev there is still OpenRC. The maintainer could use more help though. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromD

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 02 mar 14, 09:54:01, Tom Furie wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 10:06:17AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > PS: I'll set up msmtp ASAP and then replace Evolutions SMTP thingy, to > > see if I get information about the issue. > > If you look at the headers on your posts (or anyone else's fo

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Brian
On Sun 02 Mar 2014 at 10:06:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > PS: I'll set up msmtp ASAP and then replace Evolutions SMTP thingy, to > see if I get information about the issue. Probably this will be a waste of time; you would be better off examining the headers of your mails received from the list.

Re: French Guinea / Guiana

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 20:22, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Scott Ferguson a écrit : >> >> Even though the spooks do like the French Guinea TLD > > .gf is the ccTLD for French Guiana (Guyane française), a french > department and region in South America. > > French Guinea was a french colony in West Africa until

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 10:06:17AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > PS: I'll set up msmtp ASAP and then replace Evolutions SMTP thingy, to > see if I get information about the issue. If you look at the headers on your posts (or anyone else's for that matter), you can track the progress from origin to

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:44:00 +0100 Ralf Mardorf napísal: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > Here's mine:- > > troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob > > :D > > We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against Ralph,

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 01 mar 14, 14:38:14, Richard Owlett wrote: > > root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom ... > Volume size is: 1939608 > root@minimal-squeeze:/home/richard# dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 > count=1939608 of=/home/richard/myiso1.iso conv=notrunc > 1939608+0 records in > 1939608+

French Guinea / Guiana (was: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely)

2014-03-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Scott Ferguson a écrit : > > Even though the spooks do like the French Guinea TLD .gf is the ccTLD for French Guiana (Guyane française), a french department and region in South America. French Guinea was a french colony in West Africa until 1958, when Guinea became independent. Its ccTLD is .gn.

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
As much for other, future, "test" posters as for you. On 02/03/14 20:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 06:29 +, Tom Furie wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 01:41:48AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >>> My apologies, I'm aware that no test mails should be send to the Debian >>> use

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 06:29 +, Tom Furie wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 01:41:48AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > My apologies, I'm aware that no test mails should be send to the Debian > > user mailing list. If I reply (several times) I don't come through the > > list anymore. Some time a

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i am the developer of xorriso, which created the image in question under control of the debian-cd package. Debian i386 images are ISO 9660 filesystems with El Torito Boot Record to boot from CD/DVD/BD, and with Master Boot Record, which enables them to boot from hard disk and USB stick. If y

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 18:59, David wrote: > On 2 March 2014 18:54, David wrote: >> On 2 March 2014 18:32, Scott Ferguson >> wrote: >>> >>> For some reason your posts have broken threads and I can't find the >>> first one. :/ >> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/02/thrd3.html#01175 > > or > > h

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread David
On 2 March 2014 18:54, David wrote: > On 2 March 2014 18:32, Scott Ferguson > wrote: >> >> For some reason your posts have broken threads and I can't find the >> first one. :/ > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/02/thrd3.html#01175 or https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/03/threa